/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>14349353
General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>14349353

YAGOAT

>>14349417
So about 12K USD. Not sure why people are saying 5k.

>The Dao Ancestor
>The Saviour of Humanity
>The true ancestral soul of the light
>The ruler of light and dark

is there something wrong with her face or something?

>>14349429
Wtf?
Yagoo beats Mori in tweets? What did he do?

>get 100k viewers last time for your costume
>get 60k viewers this time for your costume
>gen 5 only gets 30k for their costumes
>schizo wants you to graduate instead of first graduating the trash-tier chuubas
This is how retarded ENschizo is

>>14349429
Everyone overlap with his birthday, graduation when?

>>14349477
His birthday is coming, anon.

>>14349106
>child
>Still Projecting LMAO
What a pathetic nijinigger

>>14348964
whats niji en's highest stream again?

>>14349477
It's his birthday

This one then
Also, now that the full context of Calli's 1st outfit vs this one is known, 89k is acceptable

>>14349158
Don't use Nenechi for this you fag. Also, Nene showed her outfit in the 20 min mark. No milking done. The 1 hour is for the full gen picture taking

>>14349208
89k is par for the course for regular Hololive events. The big 'uns are the special events that no one can overlap.

>>14349480
No one is asking them to graduate. Just know your place, EN branch. JP prime time is for JPs.

>>14349477

Fubuki is beating mori outfit the jp senpai really do not give an shit besides an few.

>>14349454
>The patriarch of the Hololive clan

>>14349454
Xianxia for thread OP will be great

>matuli 2k
>choco 1k
>pekora 15k

>>14349564
>No one is asking them to graduate
anon...

>>14349564
Come on anon, there have been plenty of schizos asking them to graduate.

>>14349564
Cope, Calli still mogged the entire JP branch today in viewers while in JP primetime.

>>14349544
10k? I forget

>>14349429
damn he should go do a birthday stream
would easily break all the SC record

>>14349583
I second this. But someone shop in YAGOO and RIKKU face in.

>TOP WINNER OF DECEMBER 2021
1) Chloe (Hololive) - 98,821 - Archived Karaoke
2) Chloe (Hololive) - 74,800 - The Radio Station
3) Hololive ch (Hololive) - 52,239 - Announcement
4) Shion (Hololive) - 93,815 - Outfit Reveal
5) Chloe (Hololive) - 63,541 - Unarchived Karaoke
6) Ayame (Hololive) - 59,998 - Return Stream
7) Mio (Hololive) - 54,729 - Anniversary Totsu
8) Shion (Hololive) - 89,072 - Birthday 3D
9) Mori (Hololive) - 89,923 - Outfit Reveal

Gold medal events:
11) Ame new outfit
12) Gura new outfit

Winning streak: 18 days

>>14349613
I'm sorry, I don't consider delusional NijiEN hypocrites human.

>>14349590
Pekora shilled a shitty game.

>>14349671
okay, fair

>>14349663
jesas
the record is 22 days, right?

>>14349558
Still shit-tier numbers, a HoloMyth full gen collab would pull double that. If Cover were really to graduate chuubas for underperformance gen 5 would be the first on the chopping block, they got so much more resources and attention than HoloMyth yet ended up being a bunch of mediocre little shits while HoloMyth rules the world.

Is there any chance for Niji this month?

>>14349544
The debuts, anon.

>>14349671
Unironically based

>>14349713
Let's just hope holos will do something to beat Nijis Mario Kart Event.

>>14349663
>18 days win streak
holy shit, moshi moshi nijisanji? are you still playing?

this looks like a nipple

>>14349713
I guess that was hololive ? Or was it niji of old ?

>>14349663
Fuck if Niji Mario kart wins tomorrow, not only it breaks the 18 day streak, it also beats the 10 day streak of the month

>>14349671
Based

>>14349544
i don't think they've ever beaten their dfebuts, so... 15k?

>>14349630
>declined massively from previous stream
>a-at least I beat these normal streams!

>>14349771
when is gonna be?

>>14349771
retard, who want to side with the overpowered heroes if they win all the time

>>14349804
tomorrow, it'd be thier best chance to break hololive's win streak.
If they fail tomorrow then it's going to be a clean sweep for hololive for the rest of the month.

>>14349663
is it time to spit on nijisanji?

>>14349663
Damn, Mori beat Shion's birthday and she had way tougher competition for her timeslot? Impressive.

>>14349767
yeah i know its the debut but i mean whats the number
>>14349794
thanks i thought it was around 15k but couldn't remeber.

>>14349759
mario kart announcement i guess ?

>>14349778
nah it looks like shit, like the shit numbers it got. hopefully this gets the en branch to wake up and actually keep up with the main branch even if just a bit

>>14349544
Top 5

>>14349835
You don't need to.
They are the main character. The antagonist is destined to lose.
Niji can take that day for free if it makes their monthly medal count look better. 1 win must be worth a lot considering how hard they're getting fucked in the ass this month.

>>14349877
Yeah. Just don't look for Shion's outfit reveal.

>>14349771
Hololive has major announcements tomorrow iirc>>14349778
so they might be the spoiler for Nijisanji.

>>14349800
>overlapped to hell and back
>not given any promotion by Cover
Meanwhile Shion's birthday lost even with an uncontested time slot, funneling, massive promotion and the use of Cover's 3D studio. Calli won by sitting at home with a new outfit.

>>14349565
Is the whole agency collab not big enough?

>>14349933
on about ccv

Just passed Siro.

>>14349940
Was FBK shiny hunting during Shion's outfit reveal?

>>14349877
>>14349940
>>14349944
>can't beat self
>obviously declined
>picks on someone else to compare
Utterly pathetic.

EN vtubing is dead. Everyone in here is high on copium.

What if.. Chloe sang during her monetization stream? Would that be enough to get gold?

Ayame is streaming https://youtu.be/xaFIGjRembM

>>14350046
even their own thread is dead

>>14350022
>can't admit Mori won and HoloMyth are still the strongest gen
>try to claim EN has reclined without looking at all the disadvantages Cover saddled them with
>not even admitting that EN CCVs are culled by upwards of 30% so Calli's outfit actually broke 100k easily in reality
Keep coping seething nijikek

>>14349544
Their debut stream.

>>14349968
Anon, that one was a 7-POV stream with a collective viewership above 200k. That's exactly what I am talking about.

>>14350079
Who

>>14349968
>multiple POVs of the same event
You can shut up now, Nijinigger. Back to fapping to your old Koshien numbers you go.

>>14350052
Probably, I know a lot of people will tune in just to see how much she gets bombarded with money (I know I will)

>>14350052
She's definitely getting gold because tomorrow the public servants are getting paid

>>14350079
QUEEN IS HERE TO PREVENT THE NIJIS FROM TAKING GOLD

>>14349544
10k

>>14350133
the one that fucks your oshi

>>14350022
Looks like you're seething and coping Kek

>>14350079
who

Reminder to anyone believing that EN has declined that gen 5 debuted a month earlier than Myth and are still getting mogged hard to this day

>>14350123
>>14350136
If multiple POVs are a valid excuse, so is overlaps.

>>14350079
huh?

>>14350191
reminder that your slut oshi graduated and you should too

>>14350214
If they are for the same event, yes.

>>14350079
>open stream
>akasupas everywhere
sasuga

>>14350079
her voice sucks, im watching towa's vod

I see a lot of retards who starts replying before undersatnding.

Is Mori's Outfit numbers good?
>Considering it had heavier overlaps, Yeah It's Good, getting 89k while the other holos have around 115k is not something to sneeze at

However we have to admit HoloEN have been slowly declining due to their laziness.
Tbh i think only Mori and Mumei are the only who are trying this Nov-Dec.

>>14350099
>>cope
>>cope
>>cope
It seems to me like you're the nijinigger

>>14350099
>>14350099
>Mori won
She did as today is pretty eventless besides her outfit reveal. But considering the recline, wwwwww is that a win?
>strongest
Gen 3 exist. Eat your heart out.
>disadvantages
There was overlap last time as well. Cope, the main branch is superior.
>actually
Wasn't the previous outfit reveal post cull as well? This is a lot of copium there.

>>14350242
Keep coping nijinigger, HoloEN shits all over NijiEN so hard even NijiEN fans are eating shit blasting out of their screen right now

>>14350295
lmao

>>14350191
Now post SC numbers

Still around 130k watching Hololive rn

Pretty sure there's enough $2k+ SCs today that could get the top 12th daily superchats

Iroha
Laplus
Mori
Flare
Kanata
Rushia
Baelz
FBK
Shion
Towa
Marine
Koyori

I hope Toya destroys whoever event Holo have for tomorrow. this EN vs JP shit just go in circles

ayame 30k possible?

>>14350363
>comparing gen 5 shitters to Money Mori
Lmao

>>14350046
ES vtubing is the future. They're starting to challenge the 1 million sub holos.

>>14350299
Agree on the first point
But Nov-Dev is dead time for EN tho, and consider her first outfit was in freaking March ...

>>14350428
Depends on how long she is going for combined with who stops. It's past midnight in Japan though.

>>14350422
>ONE gold
Oh no... Anyways.
Better to just go into hibernation, Nijisisters.

>>14350325
Gen 3 has Flare who can't even get 1 million subs, they're automatically weaker than Myth

>>14350474
KING 1.13M OH NO NO NO

>>14350295
Good choice anon, the flumpool performance was especially good. Enjoy.

>>14350422
NO WE MUST SWEEP THE MONTH
HOLOLIVE DOMINANCE

>>14350389
Met at 8k and Natsume at 4k too, plus Ayame is all but guaranteed

>>14350214
POV collabs and overlaps are different things.

>>14350422
Hololive does not even have an event tomorrow cause if they did it will already be announced it just holofag cope since nijisanji is getting gold tomorrow.

>>14350479
May. It was in MAY, during Golden week in what is now dubbed 'Fashion week's in which a bunch of outfits for JP and EN were revealed. Watame funneled into Mori on that day too.

Laplus done. Who's catching the funnel?

>>14349877
I'm very indifferent towards Mori but anyone with any objectivity will admit that Cover did her no favors by overlapping her costume reveal with so many of their big hitters.

>After Rosemi with NijiEN failed to even beat EN on their weak moment, nijisisters are now falseflagging as /jp/
kek

>>14350473
anon?

>>14350605
Ayame is going to take it all.

>>14350079
>Ayame
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!, YOUR MEDIAN!!

>>14350099
Obvious cope

>>14350593
Oh shit
Sorry got my dates wrong
Yeah, I only remember that it was a pretty stacked week

>>14350590
>>14350489
Are Nijikeks that happy about one win?
Go to sleep... And wake up in August. Koshien is the only chance you'll ever have to win a month.

>>14350605
my youtube autoplayed FBK before I switched it to Chloe

>>14350637
>in last 60 minutes
>Mori already streamed for more than an hour
fuck off back to /jp/ last samurai

>>14350325
>it is a win
>i agree, Gen3 and Gen6(atleast this month) rules Hololive
>the overlaps today are much more bigger
>yeah it is post cull

I agree that HoloEN did declined. But not so much.

>>14350489

>>ONE gold
Oh no... Anyways.

it will be a gold anyway and you will cope about it

>>14349454
You know that in Xianxia/Wuxia novels, there are requirements to reach certain power tiers?

>Qi Condesation
>Reach 100 viewers avg
>Achieve Monetization
>Get at least 10000 views on one video

It'd be funny kek, but I haven't been reading those novels in ages to list these kind of tiers

>>14350637
Holy Kek since when did number chads, provide inaccurate proof or at least check different sites to double check, LMAO

>>14350775
>he's so mindbroken that he can't see the win streak

I found out the reason holokeks are seething extra hard right now. They realized that HoloEN reclined hard and there is no way Gura would break 200k on her outfit reveal. This means Holo is still unable to break 200k without graduating someone, while Niji does it with ease.
Now start to seethe and cope, holokeks.

>>14350522
Flare's median this month is just under 12k, stop pretending that subs matter

Not gonna lie I'm actually impressed with Calli

Even though there is some decline but we do have some legitimate reason for that.

>>14350716
now?

>>14350875
Niji can't even get good numbers on their graduations though

Toya easy win tomorrow. Management will force Kuzuha to play Mario Kart even if he sucks at it.

>>14350940
You will play Mario Kart, Kuzufag, and you will like it! We need WIN against the holowhores.

>>14350892
>t. CCVschizo
CCV is the least important metric on Youtube, this isn't Twitch, subs and VOD views are unironically a better marker of popularity.

>>14350936
They don't need to, retard, as stated above, unlike holo, they can get good numbers without graduating someone.

>14350875
being proud that Nijisanji graduates someone, Nijiniggers everyone LMAO

>>14350875
You could pretend to be a Last Samurai faggot, but instead you outed yourself as pathetic Nijikek watcher. I guess it fits you called Nijinigger since you have the IQ of a nigger

About Unarchived permissions
(from IRyS own mouth at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkBHQONp5VQ&t=11015))
it seems to only affect songs by this label
>pic related

She said "Eurobeat songs" but it refers tho these.

>>14350940
kuzuha will be in the finals, screenshot this

>>14350909
I... I kneel

>>14350909
Good
Now get $1M in one year

>>14350839
>but I haven't been reading those novels in ages to list these kind of tiers
The tiers are bullshit "half-step pseudo-profound advanced greater god of heaven nirvana" tier.

>>14350909
NTA, but the argument is about Mori and Gen 5, are you ESL or SEAmonkey?

>>14351014
Holokek lost an argument and started seething... how lovely!

>>14350875
>subs
I'll give you that. Relatively important metric.
>VODs
Only Gura and sometimes Mori have good VOD views. The rest doesn't, Gura isn't all of HoloEN.

>>14351015
So they’re just dicks like the baby shark people?

>>14350909
nta but that's called a debut + monetization buff.
I don't doubt that LaCunny will be strong in sc, but wait until everything stabilizes first

>>14351048
Eh I liked the coiling dragon tier better

>>14351071
>Projecting nijikek LMAO

>>14350985
Lmao this is what EOPs actually believe. Ccv is the most important metric, you can't get money out of dead subs.

>>14351082
>2020 numbers
Why are deadbeats clinging to the past?

>>14351015
I fucking hate Avex so much

go get a room already you two jesus fucking christ

>>14351137
Gura makes more money than anyone else with membership and VOD views through Youtube Premium

>>14351149
>they were trying to prove a point about how debut and mometization jacks up how much superchats you get
Anon is it autism or are you just being disingenuous?

>>14351122
Oh, it's that anon who doesn't know what word projecting means. Go to school, retard.

>>14351149
Because that anon's argument is about monetization buff? SEAmonkey or ESL, which one are you?

>>14351015
All they need is to dodge labels/music groups that auto flags/strikes videos with their songs. ContentID pretty much can pick up most songs from videos and respective labels gets a part of the revenue automatically.

>>14351079
Yes, some labels are Giga assholes on YT, and as such best to not even touch those songs that are associated with them.

>14351159
>Pointing out that people are still throwing money with their shiny new toy right now
>Retarded SEAnigger can't even comprehend

>>14350875
>not 10k or 20k daily, not 50k, not 100k, SPECIFICALLY 200k where I win
Talk about nitpicking.

>>14351206
Vod views? Pekora have more VOD views though. Pekora has like the most VOD views almost every month.

>>14349662

>>14351206
Sponsorships and merch crush memberships and VOD views. Also HoloEN is 11 deep and only one of them are Gura. Gura is the only EN who is in the top 20 of the company.

>>14351243
>Go to school
Keep projecting LMAO

>>14351234
>>14351246
>>14351282
Deadbeats seething kek. You love to see it

>>14351149
Retard...

So, let's say Gura did a remix with a slightly different but similar audio to baby shark and the lyrics says "Gura Shark de de de". Would it still get flagged though or is it in the realm or originals?

>>14351294
Yes. Gura may have more VODs per video, but this isn't a rate game, we're talking most VOD views, and Pekora's consistency > Gura's somewhat higher VOD average. Gura may also have more videos at 1m+, but that's just going to happen when you have more subs.

>>14351281
Stupid holokek trying to slither out of bad situation. He's too retarded to realize it won't work on people who are not as dumb as him.

This schizofight reminds me of poorly configured mailing ticketing systems back in the early 2000s that send a confirmation email with your ticket number when you sent an email to their address.

You could take two systems from two companies, send an email to one with the sender spoofed so it looked like it came from the other and they would respond to each other infinitely because they were brainless

>>14350191
Why happened to Polka's new outfit CCV? It's a bad outfit I get, but 20k?

>Enter Ayame
FBK still > 42K

>>14351348
I'd label that as "You could probably argue it passes Parody law, but let's not go there because it's going to be needlessly expensive and costly to fight it"

>>14351353
We also need to take account of watch time. That is a big metric. CCV is the best since you know people are watching and not clicking the video for 2 seconds.

>>14351378
Polka's numbers are shit in general, and she didn't tease the reveal at all.

>>14351348
>Would it still get flagged though or is it in the realm or originals?
"Getting flagged" is the least problem, the company owning the song could simply skip Youtube altogether and take Cover to court over it

>>14351325
If you don't think Mori is top 20 in Hololive in total earnings with her music and SCs you are retarded. But of course you will just go
>ok 2 out of 20

Chloe has reclined a lot

>>14351353
>Gura may also have more videos at 1m+, but that's just going to happen when you have more subs.
Pekora may also have more total VODs, but that's just going to happen when you stream more.

>>14351368
Ngl I just tried acting stupid like the gen5 schizo and people are easily baited

>>14351355
What's your argument?
Can't win literally anywhere else so you keep reusing that one time Niji got numbers as cope?
Do copes expire? Do tell me soon.

For fuck sakes did Mori really only get 61k? What the fuck is this? What the fuck is wrong with EN?

>>14351450
You know people will just go back to the OG Ayame

>>14351409
Agreed, but we'll never know the exacts unless we crack open Gura and Pekora's YT accounts to compare. I'd love to get that data, but outside a massive data breach we're never seeing those exact metrics

>>14351340
That argument jump so high that it goes to a specific fanbase Kek>>14350637
Nice nitpicking argument I guess?

>>14351451
But at the end pekora has more vod views right? And that means more money no?

>>14351481
too much cocaine

>>14351481
they were still listening on spotify

>>14351503
Ayame who? Only FBK

Cant wait to see Niji slip again tmr

>>14351552
What?

>>14351481
Recline. As a NijiEN fan I am enjoying my cigars and brandy at the 40% reduction in just 6 months.

So who is it this time? ENschizo or Nijiniggers?

>>14351460
No, your copes are still fresh, as always. Trying to cope with "but mah midget daily numbers"... pathetic.

>>14351450
Time for more fanfiction
>"Damn Pekora is out of the game today"
>"Who's gonna face HoloX now?"
>"I hate to do this again but call Ayame, and guess I'm gonna do more shiny hunting"

>>14351639
There's a difference?

>>14351639
why not both? it's funnier that way

>>14351639
Enschizo
tomorrow is gonna be the ninjinigger

>>14351639
Your mom kek

>>14351608
based as fuck

>>14351639
if they are that obsessed, both

>>14351481
Numberfagging likes Kek, absolute state of nijikeks just to make HoloEN recline

>>14351639
Both. One is relentlessly shitting on EN (even if they're slightly deserved) and the other thinks that tomorrow's win will do anything.

>>14351686
Your fucking mom

>42k people watching an anime girl farming a gold fish

>>14351608
>As a NijiEN fan
Fuck off, your girls can't even get 10k never mind 61k.


>Recline.
How the fuck did she recline this bad? Didn't the first outfit have more 100k views? What the fuck?

Mori should have waited to show her dress at 90k. :(

>>14351764
Do you want an actual reasoning, or do you just want to be angry?

>>14351737
Slightly? Mori got significantly worse numbers than Shion and she has almost twice the amount of subs, this is beyond terrible.

>>14351693
>Triggered
Who is this I wonder, maybe both? Kek

>>14351737
God, I fucking wish we could spam their tweets about numbers without Cover coming after our asses.

>>14351650
You're winning 2 things though. Nijicopes and Koshien.
>muh daily
You have nothing to compete except Koshien. Cry about how Nijimidgets are bullied in this thread more.

>>14351764
When you have a deadweight gen and a shark that insist on killing her numbers. You get full EN recline

>>14349417
>Less than Demon cunny
What's the point in keeping EN again?

>/#/, where Selen getting 6k is a victory and Mori getting 89k is an embarrassment

>>14351821
Actual reasoning, I'm less angry and more really disappointed, I expected numbers at least similar to Shion.

>>14351015
Coco sang "Night of fire" and "Deja vu" several times and both songs seem to be under Avex.

I wonder what changed?

>>14351015
Oh they own that eurobeat vtuber group Marinasu

I'm glad we have so many comrades here hating HoloEN. I fuckibg hate any Hololive communities these days, they are just hugboxes it makes me sick.

So why isn’t Holo debuting another EN costume tomorrow? Afraid of clashing against Niji MK tournament? Understandable

>>14351924
How many did shion get

>>14351895
thats how we spot a nijinigger

>>14351835
89k is not significantly worse than 93k

>>14351860
Please, continue boasting your midget numbers. That's quite adorable, holokek.

Get this, there are only 3 streams out of 15 niji streams that beats a Holo inspired Korean vtubers

>>14351887
Beats me, I don't get it either. These bitches don't make money at all.

>>14351971
She has twice the amount of subs, should be far far higher.

Enschizo seethe hard

>>14351956
Riku paid 10 million yen to Cover begging them to not take away their only chance of winning this month because their investors are coming after their asses.

>>14351653
It could be true

>>14351895
Kek absolute state of Nijiniggers and ENschizo

>>14351996
I didn't follow the start of the discussion, was it about who got the highest CCV on record overall?

>>14351895
Context matters
6k is unheard of in NijiEN
Anything less than 100k for HoloEN is a fucking disappointment and they should graduate before they bring disgrace to the Hololive brand any longer

>>14351895
They were doing victory laps over a 5k full collab on rosemi’s channel that didn’t beat pre-chat numbers

>>14349663
man, nijisanji is useless

>>14352022
okay, then make that argument instead of making shit up

>>14351895
the absolute state of the numbers thread

>>14352061
>6k is unheard of in NijiEN
Anon, Petra got 9k just last week.

>>14351996
The sheer amount of irony in this.

I want to slide into OmegaTranny's DM and talk shit. Do you think it will bypass Cover's anti harassment thingy?

$ 13,900

>>14351895
>Mori getting 89k is an embarrassment
That's less than what fucking Shion had, no shit it's a massive embarrassment.

>>14351895
Why are we like this?

>>14352014
korean gura i kneel...

>>14351924
So.
>Much Heavier overlap, from a new gen which New gen>outfit allure
>Golden week for 1st outift, and was funneled into by Watame, happened during 'Fashion week' where a bunch of JPs also got outfits so there was hype from both JP and EN for all the outfits
>December tends to be weaker for EN streaming and YT on average. Last year was an exception due to heavier Covid restrictions, but in many places those have pretty much been lifted as long as you're vaxxed.

>>14352047
Go fuck yourself back to the hugbox.

>>14351971
Shion is not an EOP magnet. She has not reached 1M subs. She's one of the less streaming Holos. This is her fifth outfit reveal.

>>14352126

>>14351895
>>14351895
>>14351895

>>14351924
89k is pretty similar to 93k, though?

>>14352186
That's a slight goalpost change, it seems like an admission that there is no significant difference between 93k and 89k

>>14351924
Anon, she has more than Shion yesterday
Not a lot, but still

>>14352143
Even Hololive is failing to capture the KR market. They need to push HoloJP there than the failures that are HoloEN.

>>14352114
something to ponder about

>>14352126
Shion outfit reveal is on a weekend and is essentially a free slot but I guess you will twist anything to fit your narrative.

>girl made 14k dollars in 2 hours
>people complaining

>>14352252

What?

>>14352245
>Even Hololive is failing to capture the KR market
are you a retard, perhaps?

>>14352245
If only there were koreans in EN already....

Oh wait there are, but they're either boring as shit, or Ina (who doesn't appeal to everyone)

>>14352061
>Anything less than 100k for HoloEN is a fucking disappointment and they should graduate before they bring disgrace to the Hololive brand any longer
I guess NijiEN isn't a disappointment and embarassment when 90% of the chuubas in the main branch struggles to get 6k

>>14352333
Seething nijikeks because their chuuba need to stream 9 hours just to match that number Kek

>>14352340
>Unironically replying to bait
Come the fuck on you faggot, it is plain as day it's retarded bait, and yet you bite it hook, line and sinker.

>>14352271
>>14352243
Last time I checked, Shion's not the second most subbed Holo though.

>>14352386
2 fucking long ass Birthday Streams lol

man EN schizo is in full meltdown mode today huh

If people are insisting that 89k is a failure for Mori, then I fear for what could happen when Ame and Ina do theirs. Mori and Gura are still a big spectacle for nips, I never worry about their ability to pull big numbers globally, but I’m genuinely a bit concerned for how Ame and Ina will fair without the novelty that Myth’s first outfit reveal streams had.

>>14352334
part 2 of a gaming stream got more total sc than the new outfit reveal
which honestly speaks more about how fucking crazy the start of holoEN was.

>>14352412
Go ahead and pull up what other streams were happening at the same time for Shion's outfit. I'm curious.

Oh ratio schizo is back but he is making JP vs EN arguments huh, Kek?

>>14352457
It does go both ways.
It's okay we'll be back to laughing at Niji's first win this month tomorrow.

>>14350839
Here's the usual tierlist
>Physical training/Body training
20-50 ccv avg 1k-5k subs
>Qi Gathering
100 ccv avg, 5k-10k Subs
>Foundation Establishment
Monetization, 10k-50k subs
>Hollow Orb
500-1k ccv avg, 50k-100k subs, merchs
>Golden Core/Orb
1k-3k ccv avg, 100k-500k subs, sponsored, join events
>Nascent Soul
3k-5k ccv avg, 500k-1Mil subs, product collabs, expensive merchs
>Forming Deity
10k-20k ccv avg, 1M-1.5M subs, Product campaign, collab events, 1manLive, Album, Top 20 SC
>True Immortal
30k+ ccv, 1.5M-2M subs, everything above, Top 10 SC, records breaker, award winners

>HOW TO CURE NUMBER ROT FOR DUMMIES

>CCV-phrenia
Symptoms: Delusions, Hallucinations, Disorganized thinking

Cure:
1) Go to twitch
2) Press Browse on top left
3) Press live channels
4) Click the sort button and choose low to high
5) Scroll for a few minutes until your sickness gets better

>>14352396
you took so much effort for calling out someone, are you a schizo?

>>14350474
A bunch of subs that won't spend money.

>>14352491
>>14352503
I thought subs meant that they'll show up during big events though?
Guess subs are less important than they actually are and people care about Mori's music more than Mori.

>>14352361
you mixed it up, its
>either boring as shit, or Kronii (who doesn't appeal to everyone)

>>14349480
Peak viewers was something like 85k+

>>14352512
Does this mean Gura used an ancient technique that let her grow faster but harmed her foundation?

>>14352512
>Dao Transcendent
>Known records: Coco

>>14352481
>If people are insisting that 89k is a failure for Mori
Are you implying that it isn't? The last one got like 130k or something like that, this is some serious recline. But yeah, people will rip on Ame, Ina and especially Kiara when/if they get less than that.

>>14352031
Well fanfiction are still somewhat based on real life after all

Use NijiEN against HoloEN
Use NijiJP against HoloJP

You can't come up with a good argument? Why?
>Is it because NijiEN is too much of a midget?
>Is it because NijiJP can't even break 20k today
>Let's not mention how many times Holos flood the 10k+ streams & Top10

>>14349353
Is that image from one of Moria music videos? SauceNao isn't picking up anything

>>14352612

>>14352656
Fuck me stupid autocorrect I meant Mori's

>>14352651
>b-but Koshien
>and graduations don't count!

I will now grudge post anyone who gets below 89k regardless of who they are

incoming dead hours

Did Pekora really get lower numbers today than Lize, Mito and Toya? What the fuck? Didn’t you anons say she’s the most popular vtuber? Even Gura could do better.

>>14352656
No, it's not

they were supposedly inclining?

>>14352481
Gura only mention of her outfit debut time was just a single tweet and Ame straight up never mention her time yet. Straight up seem like they stop caring since it kept getting delay. Gura will still be successful due to her large fanbase but I'm curious how Ame is going to do when a good chunk of her fans don't even know the time of her outfit streams.

>>14352656
Nope, try google. If you can't find it with google just go on twitter and look "Rei vtuber".

this guy's somewhat right though >>14352245
>They need to push HoloJP there than the failures that are HoloEN
myth is fine but i dont get why they clip fucking council out of all people, they have started clipping jps more often after jp6 though

>>14352651
What else would Nijiniggers argue about and point out their nitpick winnings? That is just how they act anon

>>14352583
Yes, as many ancient sage said
>Always take your time to build a strong foundation
>>14352604
Coco has the ancient draconic bloodline, which no.1 in Heavenly Bloodline Rank

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/i9H07Z-ZOOM
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/fm7DGv7KnDY

Graph for both outfit
Now, do remember while both has singing, the first one has a long ass Zatsu section at the end
With that in mind:
1st outfit:
- Higher peak
- Much, much lower bottom (Due to the zatsu)
- Drop from 135,527 => ~52,700 (End of the actual review) / 10,244 (End of the stream)
2nd outfit:
- Lower peak
- Better average
- Drop from 89,823 => ~27,500

Also the first one has a sharper drop compare to the 2nd one, so I will go ahead and assume more people decided to stick around for her announcements and/or her core fanbase has grown since then

Lol mori antis on suicide watch

>>14352780
is this the Nux consequences?

>>14352780
maybe that's why nijikeks stopped pandering to vshojo vs Holo because they reclined LMAO

>>14352761
>Not even a threadreader
Don't start a timeloop faggot

Still can't help but laugh that they tried numberfagging twitter trend. What would they say?

>"Our biggest event of the year gathered 205k people and is the most tweeted event of the day. The people loved it! Especially since we brought our first 1M subscriber into the event. The most popular male vtuber with a record breaking sales of 10k for his first original music and a vampire cover that reached 1M in just 11 hours! Not to mention, the most superchatted male vtuber, and current the top 7 superchatted channel in the world! Isn't that great!"

>midnight in SEA
>schizo posting stops INSTANTLY
Welp.

>>14352850
So she went from 135k to 89k and some people think this is fine?

>>14352583
She merely has natural aptitude and had multiple fortunate encounters. The problem is she suffers from a few heart demons.

>>14352780
Isn't that because they streamed significantly less than before?

>>14352889
high school tier reporting

>>14352897
it is? most holos cant break 60k peak

>>14352481
Only people /here/ say that anon

>>14352897
I blame global. They refuse to accept that EN is reclining.

>>14352897
There's like 190k+ watching Hololive at the time. It's still good for the whole company.

>>14352793
Ame and Gura are low key seething about not getting 3D models.

>>14352897
Context matters but that doesn't prove your own narrative so no point to further discuss it

>>14352952
>can't beat previous records
>resorts to comparing it to someone else
Just stop.

>>14352952
Most holos don't have 1.8 million subs either.

>>14352964
its just here anon, no other thread has our schizos cause they got bullied into here

>>14352897
i expected more declining

Will it kill the ENschizos if Gura manages to break 200k? Or even beat koshien numbers?

>>14352739
I will post whenever Mori gets less than 7k ccv. to make you seethe

keep coping deadbeats

>>14352939
Give it a try, anon. I'm an ESL, so I don't know how to make better sentences to prop up Kuzuha's achievements.

>>14353009
But anon I thought subs didnt matter?

>>14352897
Timezones, youtube culling, not holidays, overlaps, watamage did a bad job, Callin didn’t shart on stream

>>14352481
The goal posts will undoubtedly shift for the other EN girls besides Kiara, and Gura will understandably be the best of the bunch.
I feel like the delay on account of Gen6 certainly didn't help, and the Omicron nonsense has really taken the wind out of the girl's sails as of late, so none have really been hyping their outfits that hard besides Mori because of it.
Then again, they may stream at better times for NA, so that might help overall.

>>14353024
Nah, just more retard argument like this>>14353034

>>14352897
FUKCING CONTEXT ANON, DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS?

>>14353041
i'm referring to the slide anon..

>>14353055
It matters when EN is losing and it doesn't when it doesn't fit their narrative. Get with the program.

>>14353024
>ENschizos
It should be obvious by now it's Nijis.

>>14353095
Oh...

>>14352804
Another Korean Hololive clip channel here, interesting to me is these old clips where Bora and selly teach Towa Korean words among other things are doing some of the higher numbers recently.

So is there anything in this thread worth reading or should I just go to bed?

>>14353055
Subs matter/or not depending on your narrative
>t. schizo

>>14353027
Keep seething

>>14353176
Not really, Mori got some really disappointing numbers and that's about it for today.

>>14353176
Just go to bed, it’s just people baiting each other now.

>>14352889
That just shows how little Anycolor cares about getting new investors. They're fine with they have, they don't need to service new investors, just invest themselves into the company since they have the cash.

this thread is shit, too many crying people.
shouldn't be a numberfag if you get emotional and too empathetic to the girls

>>14353176
Good night anon.

>>14353176
see >>14352780
>>14351015
and >>14351895
and that's pretty much it

>>14353175
>interesting to me is these old clips where Bora and selly teach Towa Korean words among other things are doing some of the higher numbers recently.
Bora...

>HoloJP getting mogged by HoloEN
>time to divert to talking about irrelevant Niji numbers so that HoloJP doesn't get shown up for being shit
Every time, /jp/shitters will be /jp/shitters

>>14353220
this

>>14351305
This can totally happen with the bullshit of xianxia. It even happens in manga. kek

>>14353176
It's all bait for now Anon, go to sleep.

>>14353175
Yeah, obviously, since she graduated and those videos got wiped from her channel so clips are literally the only source for them now.

How are VOD views calculated? Odd that she has such high views despite having relatively shit live viewers.

>>14353176
Mori beat the schizos and now they are seething. best to get some good sleep while they rot

>>14353220
This, how can anyone defend Mori getting 45k fewer views than last time is something that I will never understand.

>>14352889
They should’ve mentioned that the guy can’t sing at all, the song sucked, yet he was still able to beat any girl from the most popular company in the world.

>>14353266
Not that globalfags are doing any the argument any favors.

>>14353299
tab in/out maybe, it's a collab stream

>>14352481
>people

>>14353179
ah ok cool, I will now ignore subs when i grudge post anyone under 89k. Thx for the advice anon!

>>14353299
EOPs go in, like the stream, then leave. Just like you did.

>>14352553
Irrelevant. Views and subs are everything.

>>14352793
It really feels like Ame doesn't care all that much about hololive anymore.

>Half of JP actively trying to sabotage Mori with overlapping streams
>Still pulls in 89k

The Reaper always wins baby

>>14353220
This happens like always, but context matters like numberfags discuss or at least provide but since that doesn't agree with people's narrative, it's irrelevant

>>14353387
You barged into their prime time kek. Were they supposed to make way?

>>14353361
>views and subs are everything
Rumao, outed yourself too quick there chumpedo
VTUBERS ARE LIVE STREAMERS. The only numbers that matter are CCV and SCs. Anything else is just cope

>>14353387
Please stop embarrassing yourself, 89k is pathetic for Mori.

>>14353220
This. Numbers speak by themselves. Your chuuba can get low numbers this time but she also can incline. No need to seethe in this thread. Fubuki was getting shit on by the coasting narrative but here she is mogging everyone with fishing.

>>14353266
>>14339120
>>14339295
EN literally only just got their first gold of the month, theyre not that much better than the nijiniggers

>>14352793
Ame and Ina will do around 50k-60k

>>14353387

she decided to do on JP prime time and expected to have no overlap?

>>14353431
Fubuki is the perfect example of how hard work can help someone incline.

>>14353415
They didn't make way and so they got steamrolled by the Calli train topkek

>>14353309
>cites discussion regarding realistic strategy differences and important outside factors that may have influenced the viewer difference as "Defending" anyone in particular
Are you just looking to post NUMBER BIG! and move on, or actually discuss Why the numbers are different?

What's Mori recent monthly ccv?

>>14353358
if they only stay for that long they dont even count as a view, retardchama

>>14353450
And nijiniggers got what? Mogged? stop being a schizo Kek

Is Mori schizo seething because Mori just got 89k, while NijiEN numbers are in the shitter? I wonder, what would Selen get on her first outfit reveal. Oh wait, she ain't getting one, because Anykara needs to make an outfit for Petra the Gura killer first.

>>14353387
Less viewers than Shion's outfit with double the subs and made less money than La+ zatsu in twice the time.

>>14353421
For you anything which doesn't fit your narrative is cope

>>14353470

>>14353450
I think it might be their first gold of the quarter actually.

>>14353358
... I'm not sure how it is calculated but I'm definitely sure that's not how it works...
also I stayed for the entire stream bitch!
but yeah I am EOP.

>>14353450
>birthday
>costume
>debut buff
>holoJP can only beat EN by spamming event streams during a debut buff

How is subs and VOD numbers irrelevant to number thread?
The people in this thread is dumb.

Just as explained by Shibuya Hal, an indie, most of his income comes from ads revenue in Youtube. It's important as fuck. Probably only sponsorship the one that could rivaling it (if you're part of a company like Niji and holo).

>>14353475
>a bunch of normal streams vs special event
But that's supposed to be natural.

>>14353470
Explain Mel

Mori will do the worst because she had bad overlap. The next one kiara is going to break 100k due to lack of overlap.

Is there a way to stop artists and animators to stop doing HoloEN stuff? They need to not bother with a declining branch.

>>14353532
it is just schizo guy posting bait, ignore.

>>14353522
Yes. Because Pekora's god awful Mario kart did not get gold right?

>>14353542
I said that hark work can help you incline, I didn't say it was the only way you can incline.

>>14353522
Have you been in a coma??

>>14353484
>Why the numbers are different?
Lack of enthusiasm in the base to watch this over something more substantial like sleep, work, HoloJP etc. Hardcore fans are mad it isn't a 3D debut.
It's still a decline.

>>14352482
I'm pretty sure that's one of the couple of streams where the SC wars happened.

>>14353299
Everytime that the stream is loaded counts as a view

>>14353497
they got mogged as well but stop acting like holoEN is doing a fuckton better. everyone is getting mogged by holoJP these days

>>14353532
we are being brigaded by jp right now, dont try and reason

Isn't Mori inclining ? Her median ccv is higher than Nov and Oct.

>>14353546
At least 200k.

>>14353555
Maybe if you livestream your suicide it would send the message.

When was the last time an EN solo game stream, without it being some sort of special event like Undokai, got 30k+?

>>14353599
she is, along with irys i believe

>>14353484
Stop defending shit numbers.

>>14353546
Kiara will never beat Mori, period. If she somehow does that I will kneel and member her for an entire year.

>>14353590
Cope you seething nijikek, holoEN beats both nijiJP and nijiEN come back when either of them get 89k on a costume reveal while overlapping with a bunch of jp retards

>>14353599
yes, she's been inclining in the las 3 months

>>14353599
No, mori is dieing just like the rest of en. They should graduate them all and go back to china.

Kisame, we're leaving. Anon won't talk about number.

>>14353588
You need to watch it for a few seconds I believe.

>>14353639
i have not watched a single niji chuuba in my life, in fact the only non-holo chuuba i've ever decently watched was kizuna ai. stop trying to escape reality

>>14353650
Super Idol的笑容 都没你的甜 八月正午的阳光 都没你耀眼 热爱 105 °C的你 滴滴清纯的蒸馏水

>>14353650
ching chong zhang, all your chubbas are dead!

Why won’t they launch a Taiwanese branch? They donate more than the US.

>>14353665
30 seconds

>>14353588
Need at least 30s viewtime to count.

>>14353599
At least her hours streamed has inclined

>>14353599
Does this new Omicron variant actually stopping people to go outside?
Or is this just December/Holiday effect?

>>14353484
People have started to realize that HoloEN are full of lazy whores that are coasting off of the Hololive brand and bring nothing new or interesting to the Vtuber landscape.
Most of their viewerships have already moved on to the infinitely more entertaining NijiEN; hence the overall decrease in hype and CCV for this costume reveal.

>>14353599
Yes, but her median is still on the low side, if she does keep it up though she will soon start getting some really respectable numbers regularly.

>>14353690

>>14353578
That's a good start.
Now how about the factor of Golden Week being in full swing for the first Outfits, along with significant delays with these outfits in the middle of a new Gen debut?

>>14353690
I'm pretty sure more than half of them are from mainland China.

>>14353681
>claims to watch holo
>doesn't even know that holoEN mogs everyone else in subs
why do nijiniggers always lie

>>14353681
nice try niji nigger

>>14353723
Anon but NijiEN can't even get 10k on their mega collab