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>> No.14295765

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>> No.14295780

>TOP WINNER OF DECEMBER 2021
1) Chloe (Hololive) - 98,821 - Archived Karaoke
2) Chloe (Hololive) - 74,800 - The Radio Station
3) Hololive ch (Hololive) - 52,239 - Announcement
4) Shion (Hololive) - 93,815 - Outfit Reveal
5) Chloe (Hololive) - 63,541 - Unarchived Karaoke
6) Ayame (Hololive) - 59,998 - Return Stream
7) Mio (Hololive) - 54,729 - Anniversary Totsu
8) Shion (Hololive) - 89,072 - Birthday 3D

Gold medal events:
9) Mori new outfit
11) Ame new outfit
12) Gura new outfit

Winning streak: 17 days

>> No.14295820

>>14295678
Anon do you honestly believe that out of a hundred and fifty thousand people not a single one of them would spend the Friday night out? It's not all neets and students you know.

>> No.14295866
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14295866

what do you make of laplus' SC breakdown for her long term earning potential? she got drowned in superchats but seems to be a low percentage of akas
does this suggest a low gachikoi number but a high dedicated viewerbase?
in comparison i expect iroha to have far less SCs but a higher number of akas

>> No.14295869

Numbers are so nutty, you needed over 62k to medal.

>> No.14295901
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>> No.14295909

>>14295866
I don't think we can judge her fully. Unfortunately, her monetization stream happened during a very busy day. I think a lot where saving for the others AND Shion.

>> No.14295947

>>14295866
Need a lot more data than just the monetization stream to make any kind of determination on superchat culture.

>> No.14295955

>>14295909
Were* saving, jesas, brain. I wish she had gotten more time and a less cramp day to see her full damage.

>> No.14295993

I do want to see ONE of them crying. God, I love when they breakdown and cry due to the amount of money they're getting.

>> No.14296038

>>14295993
Chloe is gonna fake cry.
>>14295866
She said she doesn't need gachikoi so she won't get any.

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14296059

I've just accepted the fact that she won't even come close, much less break Laplus' SC record but damn it's a tough pill to swallow.

>> No.14296131
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>>14295909
I dont know, I think it was fairly apparent when Kronii milked her SCs that it wasnt sustainable
i'll predict right now that Chloe will outearn degozaru with the debut but degozaru will have higher SC earnings in 6 months

>> No.14296190

>>14295993
I honestly think Laplus was close to crying towards the end. Her voice was very shaky, although I guess that could be attributed to nervousness too since it was shaky during the whole thing. It did feel like she went from song to song without stopping to try to avoid getting overwhelmed by the superchats though.
>>14296038
>Chloe is gonna fake cry.
This.

>> No.14296193
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14296193

HoloX is dropping like a rock. The Edengumi effect is at play here. They'll all be sub 10k shitters soon enough, the bird hag is lucky if she gets to average 5k even.

>> No.14296216

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/rbrpr5/i_want_to_thank_you/

>> No.14296227

So where's today's tally?

>> No.14296239

>>14296193
make a thread faggot

>> No.14296251

>>14296227
Lost into the void apparently.

>> No.14296260

>>14296193
Anon. Going down to 10k CCV regularly is not Endengumi levels.

>> No.14296263

>>14296193
Nah, they will loose the buff but high floor they gained is good enough to help them to build from there.

La+ will join top holos for sure

>> No.14296293

>>14296193
sad cope

>> No.14296311

>>14296260
Lain…

>> No.14296318

>>14296193
Sis......

>> No.14296330

>>14296263
IMO, La+, Chloe and Iroha stand a good chance at being 10k+. Lui, despite how much I like her, will probably be 8-9k. Koyori, is hard to say. I'll put her at about 8-9k as well.
Consider this though, that that's actually ridiculous To debut a wave and have them all be as high as that once the debut buff is off, in this market, after the Covid boom raised so many people up.
Of course, there is a risk these gains do come at a big cost to some of the existing talents, but the hope of course, is that most of it will be from the tourists, converted into more long-term fans.

>> No.14296335

How the fuck would Friday be a debuff considering the kind of person that watch vtubers? If anything Friday and Saturday night are the biggest primetimes.

>> No.14296368

>>14296263
Depends on the content they want to go for long term. Few of them have shown any capability for longer streams, and there have been few games overall.I don't think anyone of them will be a dud, maybe Lui, but it's hard to say were their floor will actually be.

>> No.14296386

>>14296330
>Lui, despite how much I like her, will probably be 8-9k
Imagine thinking this when she got this pathetic number on karaoke TODAY. 5k is the best possible outcome for her.

>> No.14296390

>>14296216
Wrong thread

>> No.14296427

>>14296216
so many awards

>> No.14296428

>>14296335
Maybe people go outside on friday

>> No.14296440

>>14296386
She sang during midnight with Calli doing an unarchived too, the fuck are you talking about retard

>> No.14296466

>>14296216 you seem lost.

This way >>14288891

>> No.14296479

>>14296428
Not vtuber fans.

>> No.14296492

>>14296479
Stop projecting, faggot.

>> No.14296514

>>14296335
>considering the kind of person that watch vtubers?
people with so much T that they will choose to watch a girl play Pokémon over whoever kids are watching these days?

>> No.14296535

>>14296190
I was really hoping to hear the cunny cry today. It was so good to see her lost and dazed with all the SC.

>> No.14296552

>>14296193
Wasn't there a 5ch that said that people will get bored once they get monetized and start reading superchat.

>> No.14296571

>>14296131
If Chloe breaks the glass ceiling, I'm fucking breaking my knees in her honor.

>> No.14296612

>>14296552
It's the infinite dilemma. You can't just ignore all of these people throwing money at you so you have to read them. But reading them is number death and could also fuck up the algorithm.

>> No.14296622
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14296622

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>88,926: Shion (Hololive)
>63,037: Laplus (Hololive)
>62,642: Subaru (Hololive)
>43,995: Chloe (Hololive)
>33,850: Koyori (Hololive)
>33,370: Pekora (Hololive)
>26,262: Lui (Hololive)
>25,383: Iroha (Hololive)
>21,199: Flare (Hololive)
>20,817: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>18,055: Mumei (Hololive)
>17,467: Chloe (Hololive)
>17,049: Lamy (Hololive)
>15,854: Laplus (Hololive)
>15,652: Lize (Nijisanji)
>14,884: Mio (Hololive)
>14,431: Botan (Hololive)
>13,697: Lui (Hololive)
>13,598: Watame (Hololive)
>12,697: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,798: Mito (Nijisanji)
>11,706: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,185: Kronii (Hololive)
>10,676: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10,559: Kiara (Hololive)
>10,432: Lui (Hololive)

>> No.14296621

>>14296552
>believing what 5ch says
ngmi

>> No.14296637

>>14296239
its numbers, sorry your shiny new whores aren't that good

>> No.14296648

>>14295820
That implies
1. a non covid world
2. no new viewers that don't have the time to watch vtubers during weekdays turn up on friday night to watch vtubers livestreams

>> No.14296649

>>14296190
Cunny straight up said that was what she was doing, just without directly mentioning it was the money overwhelming her.

>> No.14296655

>>14296492
I refuse, 35 year old lonely balding fat man with tons of disposable income but not a single irl relationship worth mentioning besides parents in a parasocial relationship with an anime girl streamer.

>> No.14296674

King finally getting ONE win. The shame. Fucking Mumei should have pushed harder.

>> No.14296675

>>14296622
Pekora not even in the top 5 again, she really is reclining.

>> No.14296677

Haachama guerrilla at 2am jp
https://youtu.be/PEDxLV5b2l4
Number?

>> No.14296681

>>14296637
Why are you like this

>> No.14296697

>>14296622
Kuzuha made top 10! Everyone give him an applause and participation award.

>> No.14296699

>>14296675
Or is she?
*cue Vsauce music

>> No.14296704

>>14296637
it's old information what are you talking about?
take your delayed ability to process information and make a thread with it.

>> No.14296710

>>14296612
yes, you can ignore them

>> No.14296711

>>14296677
Under 6k, as usual for her recent streams in that time range. Maybe under 5k depending on whether or not she actually tried to alert haatons that she would stream

>> No.14296718

TOP 10!!! I KNEEEEEEEEEEL!!!!!

>> No.14296719

>>14296622
>no top 3
>no top 5
>barely top 10
sad, so sad nijikeks

>> No.14296722

>>14295866
You can't tell from just the monetization stream. Top 1 and 2 are nijihomos that barely get superchats during regular streams

>> No.14296723

>>14296697
Kang..... He's back

>> No.14296725

>>14296681
its a joke anon, dont be such a pussy

>> No.14296731

>>14296674
What win?

>> No.14296753

>>14296677
10k

>> No.14296757

>>14296622
>20,817: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>18,055: Mumei (Hololive)
If Mumei had done a proper karaoke, it would've been a top 10 sweep

>> No.14296767

>>14296731
He barely made top 10, that's as good as niji can hope for these days.

>> No.14296771

>>14296757
Agreed. She should have stopped fucking around with the mics.

>> No.14296774

>replying to bait posters
>getting bait replies
>"wh-why are you like this?"
This thread is already garbage and you retards keep making it worse with your stupidity.

>> No.14296802
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14296802

>KING ON THE TOP 10!
KNEEL!

>> No.14296812

Anyone else curious what would have happened if Myth actually engaged with OTV? Not saying I want that to happen but the door was obviously wide, wide open and frankly probably still is.

>> No.14296813

>>14296767
That´s sad....

>> No.14296821

>>14296622
Cute & funny wins again

>> No.14296837

>>14296699
That said though. I wonder if this will make Pekora try reclaiming her throne or she have decided to let go of it.
If she try, I wonder what would she do because in all honesty, Pekora does not have that many special talents compare to other Holos

>> No.14296845
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14296845

I unironically like KING posters.

>> No.14296852

>>14296622
> 10th 20,817: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
At least the king got top 10 today

>> No.14296853

>>14296514
Yes, and those chads will say no to their friends and colleagues telling them to go out for a drink with this reply
>sorry, I already made plans to watch my favourite anime girl streaming Pokemon and I plan to spend the drink money in superchats

>> No.14296869

>>14296845
interesting that despite his recline lately kneel/top10 anons are still grasping at straws to include kuzuha in the discussion somehow. maybe kneelbros are attached to him. it's sort of sweet.

>> No.14296891

>>14296722
nijifujos only donate during major events

>> No.14296898

>>14296812
It will be messy since Twitch culture is very different with VT streaming.

>> No.14296904

>>14296869
I've never watched one of his streams but at this point I'd be sad if he slipped into irrelevancy with how much shitposting juice he has given us.

>> No.14296908

>>14296853
Why would every single person do that?

>> No.14296916

>>14296869
He's likely the only dude who actually have a chance beating the Holo girls. I feel like cheering for him too because of that reason

>> No.14296920

>>14296812
Cancer and leeching

>> No.14296922

>>14296837
You don't track numbers. Maybe you should start?

>> No.14296923

>>14296845
I like stepping on them.

>> No.14296975

>>14296812
EN would probably have suffered the same fate as CN due to some retarded drama

>> No.14296993

>>14296922
I know her number. Just curious what would happen if she try as hard as Chloe right now
Like what if one day Pekora suddenly want to test how high she can go

>> No.14297017
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14297017

>ID2 girls had a 12 hours back to back streams relay to celebrate their 1 year
Did any of you guys notice it? I didn't and it's a testament of how disconnected from the Holo community they ended up since they retreated to the ID market.

interestingly enough Anya inclined, seemingly at the expense of Ollie numbers

>> No.14297021

>>14296812
Scarra mating pressing Gura LET'S GOOOOO

>> No.14297051

looks like this just got updated 2021.12.08
https://speakerdeck.com/anycolor/anycolor-introduction

>> No.14297054

>>14296908
Why not? Better than spending hundreds on cheap liquor passed as premium and waking up with a hangover not remembering anything that happened the previous night

>> No.14297075

>>14297054
I don't partake in fantasy, what the fuck are you on about?

>> No.14297159

>>14297075
Someone baiting (You)s by pretending to know not an ounce about JP corporate work culture. It's not an uncommon thing to hear about either ffs, and even an EOP who spends even just a small amount of time looking at JP work culture would notice it.

>> No.14297172
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14297172

>>14296993
>Just curious what would happen if she try as hard as Chloe right now
I don't get it. You mean in number of streams?

Because Pekora (and also Fubuki) is ahead of Chloe for the month.
>pic related

>> No.14297178

>>14297017
Pretty decent numbers overall, not bad.
People here barely watch streams, much less streams by midgets.

>> No.14297225

>>14296993
>try as hard as Chloe
Imagine being this retarded

>> No.14297237

>>14296335
You have no idea who watches vtubers anon.

>> No.14297257

>>14296812
have they been in any drama lately otherwise the main thing that would change is invites to the big twitch events and an even more cancerous chat/community
>>14297021
i think you mean sykuno

>> No.14297259

>>14297021
>Not Gura pegging Scarra
ngmi

>> No.14297284

>>14296993
They do different types of content, the following are some noticeble difference so far this month. Chloe has more streams but less hours. Pekora has a higher peak median but chloe has a higher peak. Watch hours are almost even but still an edge to pekora. So why would she change when she's has a winning formula.
Chloe wont be able to keep this pace forever, simply because she will be busy with other things, lessons, recordings etc. Will she have the pekora constitution of streaming after such a day? I don't doubt Chloe can bring peaks and a decent median. But I doubt she will be able to match Pekora's consistency.

>> No.14297458

>>14297051
>https://speakerdeck.com/anycolor/anycolor-introduction
3 pages in and I kek'd seeing those values.
>Being considerate
>Integrity
>Take the extra step

>> No.14297546

>>14297225
>>14297172
>>14297284
Thanks for answering

>> No.14297561

nip numberfag numbers
【12/8 にじホロ同接ランキング】
1. 紫咲シオン(誕生日LIVE) 89,072
2. ラプラス・ダークネス(収益化記念) 63,037
3. 大空スバル(声真似へたくそ王) 62,178
4. 沙花叉クロヱ(歌枠) 44,904
5. 博衣こより(収益化記念) 33,850
6. 兎田ぺこら(EXIT FROM) 33,477
7. 鷹嶺ルイ(収益化記念) 26,262
8. 葛葉(スプラ2) 20,847
9. 風真いろは(雑談) 18,320
10. 七詩ムメイ(歌枠) 18,055

(にじホロ以外10位圏内)
なし

【1万以上枠数】
ホロ22枠(シオン・ラプラス・スバル・クロヱ・こより・ぺこら・ルイ・ムメイ・クロヱ・ラミィ・ラプラス・ミオ・ぼたん・ルイ・わため・いろは・ラミィ・クロニー・フレア・キアラ・ルイ・いろは)
にじ4枠(葛葉・リゼ・月ノ・不破)

にじJP女性平均同接(最大同接の平均ではなく加重平均同接)
9月2615
10月2440
11月2262
12月2066

ちなみにホロJP
9月9300
10月9103
11月12226
12月14555

箱総視聴時間(JPのみ)
10月11月12月(8日現在)
にじ 16M14.4M3.4M(月換算13M)
ホロ 14.2M18.4M8M(月換算31M)

現在の1万越え枠数(巣窟ルール)
ホロ:183
にじ:31

にじホロ エースの枠数と割合
葛葉の枠数:自チャンネル 8枠:25%
ぺこらの枠数:自チャンネル 9枠:4%

ホロvsにじ
1日(水) 22-5
2日(木) 17-3
3日(金) 24-4
4日(土) 26-5
5日(日) 26-6
6日(月) 23-2
7日(火) 25-2
8日(水) 22-4

箱総視聴時間(JPのみ)
10月11月12月(8日現在)
にじ 16M14.4M3.4M(月換算13M)
ホロ 14.2M18.4M8M(月換算31M)

>> No.14297570

I shall draw power from you numberfags to finish this shitty excel

>> No.14297637

>>14296612
>You can't just ignore all of these people throwing money at you so you have to read them.
You can easily ignore them, Suisei is the prime example of that.

>> No.14297657

>>14297561
>ホロvsにじ
>1日(水) 22-5
>2日(木) 17-3
>3日(金) 24-4
>4日(土) 26-5
>5日(日) 26-6
>6日(月) 23-2
>7日(火) 25-2
>8日(水) 22-4

I wonder what they think of this

>> No.14297685

>3,408 watching now
Chammers...

>> No.14297687
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>>14297051
>>14297458
kek, one of their slides has their life walking backwards
>page 26, pic related

This is the sum of VOD views for all streamers, it literally reclined from Q3 to Q4 2021 (ending in April 2021) and the incline was likely caused by debuting 5 more JP streamers and NijiEN.

I bet that if you make this chart be "VOD views per month, per streamer" it is still walking backwards

>> No.14297690

>>14297051
>>14297458
oh boy some of these slides are rather amusing

>> No.14297706

>>14297657
probably makes their leaky dicks wet

>> No.14297732
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>>14296552

>> No.14297746
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14297746

>>14296622
holo.poi.cat captured 89072 for Shion

>> No.14297762

>>14297561
Nips missed two streams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev-QzFckYO0
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Z6Q3L3spw

Both ahead of Kuzuha.

>> No.14297780

>>14297051
Translation for this one onegai

Were they trying to numberfag twitter trend during Koshien or something?

>> No.14297807

>>14297172
Hololive ch is not a vtuber.

>> No.14297814
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14297814

>>14297780
I forgot the pic

>> No.14297816

>>14297561
>10月 / 11月 / 12月 (8日現在)
>にじ 16M / 14.4M / 3.4M (月換算 13M)
>ホロ 14.2M / 18.4M / 8M (月換算 31M)

This is brutal

>> No.14297855

>>14297746
I don't second guess live-ranking unless it would alter the order

>>14297807
This is not a vtuber ranking, but a channel ranking featuring channels from Hololive Productions and Nijisanji

>> No.14297854

>>14296802
I didn't know Dota was in the DC universe.

>> No.14297881

>>14296845
KING posters are kinda cute and they're exaggerations are really funny. I'm actually interested in watching Kazuha now. Guess it's the honest enthusiasm that makes it the only kind of Nijishilling that works on me.

>> No.14297885

>>14297816
>16M
This is total watch time right? What did they do in October to accumulate that much.

>> No.14297923

>>14297051
So much copium in the slides

>> No.14297933

Despite Being Only 13 Percent of the Population, Hololiver make up 90% of daily ranking.

>> No.14297945

>>14297762
Wasn't Iroha stream the one with the yab earlier today?

>> No.14297956

>>14297051
>bragging about kuzuha's 1M subs
cute and sad

>> No.14297984

>>14297051
>slide 14
Nijisanji ID...
Nijisanji IN1.0/EN1.0/ID2.0...

>> No.14297986

I am now unironically watching Kiara to cure my numberrot
It's working ...

>> No.14297987

>>14297945
what yab

>> No.14298005

>>14297987
taiwan yab kek

>> No.14298017

>>14296193
>HoloX is dropping like a rock
more like the debut buff is wearing off, the REAL numbers come from their first collabs, if they manage to grab one of the popular holos for a REGULAR event they are set
example:
Botan with Pegor

>> No.14298029

>>14297986
If you're at that point it's terminal, I'm sorry anon.

>> No.14298031

>>14297051
I felt second hand embarrassment reading this even though I can't read nip. Cover doesn't brag their numbers this much.

>> No.14298036

>>14297987
Asked her viewers where they were from, someone answered Taiwan and she said it.

>> No.14298040

>>14297923
This is pretty normal for businesses. They will try re-frame any losses into a success in one way or another.

>> No.14298069

>>14298017
You know Matsuri is going to get her claws in the Loli...

>> No.14298077

>>14298017
Add Towa too

>> No.14298088

>>14298040
Isn't that whole doc just nijisis' creed codified

>> No.14298095

>>14297780
>>14297814
The twitter part says: "Achieved #1 in the worldwide Twitter trend ranking!"

>> No.14298128
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55% viewership drop. HoloX is finished.

>> No.14298131

>>14297051
Why did they still cling to the 2020 koshien instead of using the 2021 one?

>> No.14298135

>>14296622
If you take away Apex from Kuzuha...

>> No.14298138

>>14298095
Kek no fucking way

>> No.14298139

>>14298040
I'd have them elaborate more on this though >>14297687 if they try to speed this part. They've hit a stagnation in FY21/4

>> No.14298145

>>14298077
Towa is not a buff in any shape, way or form

>> No.14298155

>>14298128
It's just the launch ATH

>> No.14298167

>>14298128
>%
You outed yourself too fast.

>> No.14298172

>>14298095
Kek I knew it. So, when are we gonna numberfag twitter trends now?

>> No.14298182

>>14298031
Technically speaking, this isn't for public consumption, so they're not either. This is mainly for business (either internal or external), where Cover would actually do the same, which is to be expected when trying to assure things are going well.

>> No.14298226

>>14298172
Nijifriends have been doing it for months anon

>> No.14298230

>>14298131
A 10k increase from last year's finals with two popular male livers as guest players especially when one of them is the top subscribed member in niji won't look good on paper

>> No.14298234

>>14298182
this is /#/ so a company doing what companies do is actually a bad thing

>> No.14298248

>>14298182
not even that this is clearly just a deck they're going to go out with to raise money, this is probably their C round (last time they raised money was April 2020)

>> No.14298279

>>14298145
The other 2 are buff to her
That time they collabed on Towa channel, I can't stop visualizing Pekora and Towa trying their best to drag Towa out of the number blackhole

>> No.14298289

>>14298128
>4 singing stream in a week
Why am I not surprised. I'm glad managers made her stop

>> No.14298295

Man Lui's SC reading as as lasted a while and if add the amount of SC she gained in this stream then she made 18k USD

>> No.14298328

>>14298017
What? Botan didn't have a 1 on 1 collab with Peko until 3 months after the collab ban ended.

>>14298077
Again what? Towa didn't have a 1 on 1 collab with Peko for 8 months after the collab ban ended.

>> No.14298373

>>14298328
>until 3 months after the collab ban ended.
and that's when Botan secured her spot to who she's today

>> No.14298383

>>14298328
Peko had a collab with virtual voldemort which is basically Towa by proxy.

>> No.14298399

>>14298373
So the window for first collabs is at least a quarter of a year?

>> No.14298409

>>14298095
>Numberfagging Twitter's Trending topics
They are worst than most people here

>> No.14298461

>>14298234
I understand that the people in this thread are retarded. I'm just trying to at least raise the collective IQ if only by one point.
>>14298248
I myself wonder if they're going to raise cash through investment or debt. Would they be able to raise money in amounts similar to their round with Sony and the other big 'uns? Future investors should at the bare minimum ask if they can follow Hololive's model and how they would go about competing with them.

>> No.14298465

>>14298383
shhh anon...

>> No.14298469

>>14298029
Coof restriction anon
I can't find my meds

>> No.14298474

>>14298095
Isn't like EVERY holo event like that? even on outfit reveals

>> No.14298487

>>14297051
Is this Cover's updated speaker deck? It says 7 days ago, not sure though.
https://speakerdeck.com/covercorp/cover-corp-introduction

>> No.14298526

>>14298461
It's clearly an equity round, this is standard tech company raising protocol. No point in raising debt right now because they are pitching the whole growth angle. Banks usually only lend off cash flow which makes no sense for a tech company.

>> No.14298539

>>14298461
Will Sony continue giving them money, consider they have their own chuubas now?

>> No.14298567

>>14298539
They don't even give their own talents money.

>> No.14298598

>>14298487
Must be fairly recent because it includes the coof convention in burgerland

>> No.14298632

>>14298539
Sony isn't a uniform org, the venture arm is different than the media arms and they probably never talk to each other nor do they coordinate. venture guys are all about the shotgun strategy anyways to diversify their money instead of going all-in on one company.

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>>14298487
i dont remember seeing slide 9 and picrel before

>> No.14298691

>>14298487
How bad is it? I can't read nihongo

>> No.14298723

>>14298487
based nips, both with a 75% male to 25% distribution for workers

>> No.14298734

>>14298487
>>14297051
Between these two, If I was an investor, I'd go for the ones that had guest appearances on Cons and a game in the making. Anykara's deck wasn't appealing at all. I'd probably laugh seeing the twitter numberfagging part because it's a useless metric.

>> No.14298743
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>>14298691
Pretty normal, this is a more general corporate presentation unlike Anykara's which is designed to go out to raise money. There's even this page in here which goes over the nice benefits Cover has (b-black company!)

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>>14298669
also i dont remember council being there before

>> No.14298810

The SEAnigger shitposters here know more about Nijisanji than even some of the Nijifags here. Talk about obsessed.

>> No.14298815

>>14298487
>The only numbers they're showing are subcount
Yagoo... your numberfagging reps...

>> No.14298818

>>14298743
Translate that weebs.

>> No.14298825

>>14298487
It says thay have grade system, I wonder does it apply to streamers as well?

Like Pekora is P7 and Lofi is 1

>> No.14298842

Okay her initial numbers were bad but the fact that she's been reading superchats for 3 hours with now signs of slowing down and made $3.5k from just that makes me think that long-term Lui-nee will do pretty well in SCs, someone has to fill this gen's Watame role after all

>> No.14298851

>>14298815
Well, remember, they still has the largest sub chuuba in the world

>> No.14298854

>>14298779
>they had to group up council to not make them look bad vs myth

>> No.14298872

While I care diddily squat about the health of anons here, I hope Holo X don't suffer from the numberrot themselves when their buffs wear off.

>> No.14298876

>>14298818
You can import the PDF into Google Translate

>> No.14298895

>>14298876
>Google Translate

>> No.14298923

>>14298818
Basic employment information
Flextime system (core hours are set for each department)
Remote work system available
Side jobs are allowed (according to company regulations)
Holidays
2 days off per week
Paid vacations (granted in April or October after joining the company)
Summer vacation (3 days granted in July~September)
Year-end and New Year vacations / congratulation or condolence leave
Maternity leave / Childcare leave
Vaccination leave
Benefits
Commuting expenses paid (up to 50,000 yen)
Insurance coverage
Office convenience store/water server
Discounted company equipment such as various goods and Leipzig products
Lending of PCs and accessories
Cost sharing for employment and periodic health checkups
Cost-sharing for influenza vaccinations, etc.
Mental health care
Company-wide events
Meal subsidies (subject to company regulations)

etc

>> No.14298925

>>14298851
Their number of millionaires is also light years ahead of its closest competitor, but there are also many other metrics to consider anon

>> No.14298931

>>14298818
deepl so it might not be the most accurate
Basic employment information
Benefits
Flextime system (core time is set for each department)
Commuting expenses paid (up to 50,000 yen)
Remote work system available
Insurance coverage available
Side jobs are allowed (internal regulations apply)
Office convenience store and water server available
Holidays
Employee discount sales of various goods and live tickets
2 days off per week
Lending of PCs, accessories, etc.
Paid vacations (granted in April or October of the latest year after joining the company)
Expenses for employment and regular health checkups
Summer vacation (3 days granted between July and September)
Expenses for influenza vaccination, etc.
Year-end and New Year vacations / Congratulation and condolence leave
Mental health care
Maternity leave/ Childcare leave
Company-wide events
Vaccination leave
Meal subsidy (subject to company regulations)

>> No.14298946

>>14298842
It's the flare role + marine's motivation.. If I worked in a black company before and I'm getting money from just thanking supers, I'd gladly thank people for hours. Lui probably got her big break already and cried from being grateful. She said she took the first train to work then takes the last train home for months/years? That's painful.

>> No.14298993

>>14298825
I don't think that thing applies to talents, seems only apply to the suits

>> No.14299025

>>14298923
>>14298931
That's actually good. They're paying their employees well with Holo's money.

>> No.14299057

>>14298487
>slides 20-24
This is where the real money will be made for Cover itself in the eyes of investors.
>slide 31
What are those boxes along the glass wall?

>>14298815
Very few people outside of marketing understand the value of numberfagging anything other than sub count. It's a common mistake, but one that still generates successful deals in the business world. It's weird, but it happens.

>> No.14299062

>>14298925
Nobody that matters cares about most other metrics tho, that's why they only point out the subs.

>> No.14299139

>>14298734
as an economics student I would do the same, they plastered Kuzuha and Mito there as if I were supposed to know who they were, investors literally don't care about that, the same for numberfagging their twitter stuff
the killer point is picrel >>14298669

>> No.14299144

>>14299062
Why did the niji one display all those other metrics then

>> No.14299166

>>14299144
Because they lose hard at subs vs their main competitor.

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>>14298923
>Lending of PCs and accessories
Chris...
Cover learned from their mistake

>> No.14299264

>>14298923
>>14298931
>all those incentives
At least they're ahead of the curve in being a employee friendly business. This is basically multinational conglomerate tier.
>Mental health care
And their chuubas still have menhera attacks on the regular. They should call it "the Matsuri plan" as a joke.

>> No.14299274

>>14299139
Why one is better, showing a packed event venue for niji concerts or packed overseas conventions? Or did they refrain from posting those packed event out of fear their investors wouldn't like them as they were not thinking about coof risks or protocols?

>> No.14299306

>>14299144
different people worked on the two presentations anon

>> No.14299333

>>14299274
Which* brain fart moment

>>14299264
>menhera attacks
It's the talent's choice in the end. Nene and Korone can't be helped since they're going hard on those idol reps and sponsorships. Don't know bout Ayame though. She came, got $30k for free, and fucked off.

>> No.14299337

>>14299256
That's for employees, not the streamers

>> No.14299431

>Anykara speaker deck
>990k views
>9 starred

>Cover's speaker deck
>18k views
>0 starred
Where's Cover's old speaker deck? Kinda surprising that it got 18k views in less than 2 weeks.

>> No.14299447

>>14299274
>Why one is better, showing a packed event venue for niji concerts or packed overseas conventions?
Yes.
>Or did they refrain from posting those packed event out of fear their investors wouldn't like them as they were not thinking about coof risks or protocols?
That is mainly speculation, but considering that the current climate of constant national locks-downs over the pandemic is messing with the Japanese economy, you wouldn't really want to be perceived as further compounding to the problem by not following proper safety protocols.

>> No.14299451

>>14298931
here's anycolor's, once again deepl so it might not be the most accurate

Welfare and various systems

2 days off per week, national holidays, summer vacation, winter vacation
Flexible working hours (core hours: 11:00-17:00)
Special leave (marriage, bereavement, spouse's birth)
Salary increase twice a year
Maternity leave, childcare leave, nursing care leave system
Commuting allowance (up to 30,000 yen per month)
(as required by law regardless of gender)
Meal subsidy for overtime work (up to 10,000 yen per month)
Full social insurance
In-house award system (once a quarter)
Health checkup fee
Referral incentive system
Influenza vaccination assistance
Communication assistance expenses
(Subsidy system for intra-departmental get-togethers)
Free clothing
Second job OK (with approval)
Office convenience store and water server

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This is nearly Matsuri-tier for someone with 1.3m subs

>> No.14299472

>>14298669
Dokomi had 30k people at the con? Didn’t know it was that big.

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>>14299274
Cover also shows a bit of their local events (before coof), the reason why they showed the conventions was to show their overseas presence, both did a great job and I would say they are equally good
>Or did they refrain from posting those packed event out of fear their investors wouldn't like them as they were not thinking about coof risks or protocols?
it says at the bottom (picrel)

>> No.14299505

>>14299458
Looks like haatons a fucking dead or moved to laplus

>> No.14299555

>>14299505
It's a bad time jop are asleep. Eop have work and school. Europe do not watch streams.

>> No.14299777

Doesn't seem to be looking good for Anykara. They've made a bad long term investment on in-house AR/VR tech if the livers aren't going to be celebrated like Holos do on their birthdays and anniversaries. This was Aizono's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kTiZjKZ8cw and it didn't even get 25k.

>> No.14299843

>>14299777
but aizono is a flop literal who

>> No.14299859

>>14299777
I don't understand the point you're trying to make. Aizono's birthday wasn't celebrated because she didn't get enough viewers to look it good in your eyes?

>> No.14300008

>>14299859
It's bad because she brought 7 guests and it still got bad numbers

>> No.14300048

>>14299458
She should go back to her usual 14-18JST slot like she did in 2020
It's one of the reason she was strong back then, she streamed in minimum competition slot
In 2021 she starts piting herself against the aces and it went downhill from there
And now she only does 1-2am guerrillas...

>> No.14300067

Alright boys and gals, lazy shark has gone and properly tweeted out her outfit reveal.
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1468642496922144770
IMO, 2nd outfit probably not nearly as hype as the first, but these designs are far more intriguing than the set they had before, so who knows?
I'm personally putting Gura's floor at 100k though, I doubt she gets less than that for an outfit reveal.

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I remember how holo talents were frantically stating that there's no 中の人 in the past but this page clearly says otherwise.

>> No.14300104

>>14300048
She's a student now, so she's really only going to do streams when she's got the free time. Bad for numbers, but some streams > no streams.

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Since you guys like numbers
Average live views from march 2019 to november 2021

Yellow is Hololive, Blue is Nijisanji male livers only, Gray is Nijisanji as a whole, orange is Nijisanji female livers only

>> No.14300129

>>14300100
?

>> No.14300141

>>14300112
Slow and steady...

>> No.14300183

>>14300067
80k, has all possible debuffs imaginable
>no streams on her channel the whole week
>last of the reveals (this guarantees less SC too)
>even /r/eddit was discussing the rigger stuff and there's a lot of disappointment built up beforehand

>> No.14300213

>>14300183
The rigger drama will help numbers with tourists tuning in to see if it ends up a disaster again.

>> No.14300227

>>14299843
kek

>> No.14300233

There are more people watching Lui's SC reading stream right now at almost 4:00AM JST than Kiara's gaming stream at around midday NA and prime time EU…

>> No.14300244
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>>14300112
We got too cocky holobros

>> No.14300252

>>14300233
I have Lui up, not actually watching

>> No.14300288

>>14300183
>it's literally a couple of hours away from the PEAK AUDIENCE time slot for Hololive
This is why you fail as a company manager in tech and entertainment, Rikku.

>> No.14300292

>>14300112
Niji girls are the lowest they have ever been since 2019 seeing this chart
Losing lulu and roa hurt I guess (gibara doesn't count, it's not like she streamed)

>> No.14300316

>>14300129
"Vtubers = creators with avatars using motion capture technology"

>> No.14300330

>>14299264
>And their chuubas still have menhera attacks on the regular.
The amount of help doesn't matter if the chuuba refuses to use it.

>> No.14300337

>>14300316
?

>> No.14300342

>>14300100
>SUISEI DOXXED BY COVER
she looks so cute bros...

>> No.14300354

>>14300292
Lain being a midget doesn't help either. It doesn't seem like the top Niji girls declined despite this. Maybe it's just the midget ones streaming more often and pulling the average down.

>> No.14300365

>>14299166
They lose hard in all the other metrics too, other than total subs/VODS and only because they have 3 times the amount of chuubas.

>> No.14300383

>>14300316
That doesn’t “say otherwise”, though, much less “clearly says otherwise”. Obviously they aren’t going to take Suisei’s rl photo for demonstration purpose

>> No.14300399

>>14300183
she doesn't have a JST time listed either and will probably put the frame the same day

>> No.14300412

>>14300112
wait how did nijisanji as a whole get a higher average than both nijimales and nijifemales sometimes?

>> No.14300424

>>14300383
>Obviously they aren’t going to take Suisei’s rl photo for demonstration purpose
What if.. They pull a sneaky one on us

>> No.14300432

>>14300383
that retard was trying to say hired dancers? Seems he doesn't believe it himself because he couldn't even get the words out

>> No.14300436

>>14300342
>made me look
Is that... Hololens? I wonder if Cover actually uses that shit. It's expensive as fuck, but it would help solve at least one or two problems with regards to 3D lives.

>> No.14300453

>>14300412
Streams on the main channel just counting towards general Nijisanji numbers instead of specifically male or female?

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>>14300354
They clearly declined, Mito has a hard time breaking 10k nowadays

>> No.14300490

>>14300112
>Since you guys like numbers
Anon, this chart is both reproduced by one of our charming and handsome anons and reposted from the nip source the millisecond it drops (which was a week ago)

>> No.14300511

>>14300455
Niji should really just fire the females and put more resources into the males.

>> No.14300512

>>14300292
How many new female talents do they have ever since they've bullied Meiro out? She had around 8k median if I'm not mistaken. Could really help bolster up their lineup.

>> No.14300541

>>14299458
a mixture of super late guerilla streams and probably still cursed a bit from the reddit shitpost review stuff. still think she'll make a comeback if she regularly streams and/or finds a good time slot to occupy. also she gets like 50k vod views every stream and recently her chat strangely has very little english.

>> No.14300565

>>14300412
>wait how did nijisanji as a whole get a higher average than both nijimales and nijifemales sometimes?
Group channels (like Chronoir) and main channel is not male or female

>> No.14300601

>>14300541
Haachama quite literally made it a point to filter out her "touristic" audience lately.
I assume it is less work to prepare content for die hard Haaton that is to prepare to tourists

>> No.14300610

>>14300455
We need to get past December for these year to year comps to have any meaning

>> No.14300638

>>14300455
Mito has averaged lower than that before and it'd look the same for a lot hololive members since those are pre-CCV cull numbers. Pekora was averaging 45k before for example.

>> No.14300653

>>14300436
Most likely a stock photo. There's no way they actually posted a pic of a talent like that.

>> No.14300668

>>14300565
>>14300453
even then it would take a ton of streams to have that much of a pull, did they have hundreds of streams on group channels or something?

>> No.14300693

>>14300653
No-no, I know that's a stock photo. I'm just wondering if they actually went through the motions of obtaining Hololens for 3D streams.

>> No.14300721

>>14300668
Those numbers are MEAN average instead of the more sensible median. Remember Koshien (for instance) and most big streams by Niji happened on the main channel this year

>> No.14300768

>>14300693
I highly doubt it. It's just whatever tech was in the photo that was thematically appropriate.

>> No.14300804

My conclusion from viewing the two presentations is that:
a) Anykara is looking to raise money, Cover isn't (at the moment)
b) Cover's business development team is significantly more competent
c) both are pretty similar benefits wise but cover gives an extra 20k yen per month of commuting and seems like more holidays as well

>> No.14300808

>>14300112
>Nijisanji lost 2.5 years of growth

>> No.14300893

>>14300804
>a) Anykara is looking to raise money, Cover isn't (at the moment)
Yeah, 100% agreed. Anykara chart is pretty much a sales pitch while Cover is PR material

>> No.14300928

>>14300804
On point b, what makes you say that?
Haven’t had a chance to look through the presentation yet so I’d be interested to hear your reasoning.

>> No.14300956

>>14300601
probably, most of her content recently has been either the nice raps or some sort of utawaku. kinda feels like aqua, but at least jump king tomorrow. i miss the haachama that went hard for numbers and put out some of the most diverse content in hololive. at least she's having fun i guess.

>> No.14300955

>>14296193
T. Chumpedo

>> No.14300969

>>14300804
Any link for Cover and Anykara's presentation?

>> No.14300999

>>14300969
Read, threadskimmer.

>> No.14301139

>>14300928
Anycolor spends way too many slides talking about useless shit. Slides 6-9 for instance could've been explained in one slide but they didn't. Slide 12 has too many boxes with small font that will cause any reader to glaze over (compare to Cover's Slide 10). They reuse pictures in 14/24/27 and then also the office slide. Cover's slide 24-26 shows that they actually have some kind of corporate graphic design and didn't just use the base background in powerpoint like Anykara did. In summary, Cover's team probably has a better idea of what they're doing than Anykara's team.

>> No.14301238

>>14300956
>i miss the haachama that went hard for numbers and put out some of the most diverse content in hololive
I don't. Long time Haaton, I miss when Haachama would just whip out a regular ass "Getting over it" stream, have fun for fifty minutes or so, move to superchat reading for some 20 minutes more and wrap up

>> No.14301323
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* LAST 30 DAYS MOVING MEDIAN FOR THE NIJISANJI TOP STREAMERS *

Short summary would be
>Kuzuha reclining
>Toya "Ayaming"
>Fuwa and Kanae recliming
>Mito clawing back her status
>Sasaki inclining
>Old man Maimoto, Ange and Ibrahim reclining
And of course
>Lize MASSIVELY inclining

>> No.14301479

>>14301323
for kanae it's looking more like stagnation than recline how do we save him...

>> No.14301534

What drove Lize's huge incline?

>> No.14301533

>>14301479
Slight recline but yeah, stagnation would be a better moniker.

My top conclusions from these would be
>Buy Lize
>Sell Kuzuha

>> No.14301624

>>14301238
i enjoy when she plays meme games too, but i absolutely love her chuuni shit. not necessarily the ones that captured the most numbers, but stuff like escape from australia. i understand it's harder to do, but man i would fucking love more chuuni adventures and shitposting.

>> No.14301736

>>14299458
I used to like Haachama's content but I don't want to put the effort of clicking on them to know what's going on. We like to trash Kuzuha for not making thumbnails but Haachama also put random stream titles too.

>> No.14301737

>>14301323
>>14301533
There was a month this year where Kuzuha only averaged 15k. He's not declining. It's more that he couldn't keep up with his August incline.

>> No.14301750

>>14301624
nta, but i personally love her user interaction and user content review streams. haachama sunday and what not. i guess, one of the problem of doing varied shit is that you gather a lot of people, but they all want different things from you.

>> No.14301753

>>14301139
Anykara stuff is a 1:1 presentation of what you find in the basic books with some mistakes
>start speaking about the values of the company (you only do that for public events)
>they had to explain what a vtuber (so they know that investors are not into that) but at the same time, they use their talents as reference material (contradicting that assumption, aka, expecting them to know who is Kuzuha and Mito for example)
I wouldn't say any of them is particularly interested in "raising money", both sets are oriented looking for partners, specially for merch
the only mayor difference is in Cover advertising their non-vtuber content opportunities, aka, the game and the manga (the alternative project as a whole)

>> No.14301798

>>14301737
the valorant spam arc

>> No.14301830

>>14301753
so, out of this, there should be someone interested to help them with the production/distribution of goods

>> No.14301982

I made a $100 bet with my discord buddy that Chloe would surpass Gura's sub count by the end of next year..
It's still possible, right? The only reason I made the bet was because you faggots told me she hit sub milestones faster than anyone and she would be the next Gura.

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>>14301534
>What drove Lize's huge incline?
Here is a quick answer to that

CONSISTENCY!
>pic related

Since Mado started tracking, here is the stats for Lize type of streams

>19x: Dragon Question
>16x: Genshin
>4x: Pokemon
>4x: Minecraft
>4x: Shin-chan
>11x: one off others

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize she's doing something very right
>giving segments of the audience what they want

>> No.14302203

>>14301982
If you're actually being serious, you're an idiot and deserve to lose that $100. There were multiple people saying it was unlikely she would maintain this level of growth for longer than her debut buff period.
If you're just shitposting, here's your (you), now get out.

>> No.14302228

>>14301982
https://youtu.be/4I-BkjO1cok&t=2

>> No.14302243

>>14301982
kys retard

>> No.14302275

>>14301750
>>14301624
>i understand it's harder to do
That's the thing for her and for Ame: I LOVE her specialty streams but I understand that if it takes 10 hours to produce a single hour of content
>SHE EITHER WON'T DO IT OFTEN OR WILL BURN HERSELF OUT TRYING

Special streams (like hers, or like "Oozora police") should be the exception, not the rule. Ame and Haachama refusing to do regular streams because they're addicted to special ones is detrimental to their numbers and to their mental health

>> No.14302296

>>14301753
If it IS for merch, Cover advertising their live events overseas seems like a really good mention. They even listed the attendance numbers for each con (30k dokomi and 55k NYC).
It’s known that they have a partnership with that one mining company for goods for the upcoming events so maybe that will bear some fruits on that front. And on the foreign market the Omori collab looks like it could lead to something.

>> No.14302344

>>14296612
Ina Ina Ina....

>> No.14302449

>>14301982
At their current pace in a year
> Gura: 3,640,000 + 80,000 * 12 = 4,600,000
> Chloe: 587,000 + 11,000 * 365 = 4,602,000
Interestingly they'd be practically tied in a year
But obviously this is NOT how subs work and this is NOT what will happen, but the coincidence was interesting so I posted it.

>> No.14302509
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14302509

WELLLLLLLLLL NUMBERFAGSSSSSS!?!?
>KRONII TOLD YOU TO TAKE YOUR MEDS
WELL!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DE8VOMASes

(will you take it?)

>> No.14302612

>>14302509
Not taking advance from a lazy bitch who had the potential to be ENs #2 but pissed it away with her laziness.

>> No.14302616

the difference on member:non-member chat ratios on flare's pokemon and minecraft streams makes me curious on what fubuki's will look like

flare pokemon:
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/78Z6Q3L3spw
flare minecraft:
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/skBXYsQbUIg

>> No.14302632

>>14302275
yeah that's true. one of the game related things i want her to do is a training series to take down hoshimachi suisei.. also i was waiting for jump king for ages so i'm pretty happy that is coming. iwbtg or boshy would be fun too, i'm pretty sure i remember watching her play iwbtg before but i couldn't find the vod on her channel.

>> No.14302697

>>14302632
>want her to do is a training series to take down hoshimachi suisei
Me too but she gets sidetracked with Haaton sniping her. She doesn't have the same mental fortitude of Suisei to power through the distractions and actually practice it

>> No.14302722

>>14302509
Fucking clock. Yet one more piece of evidence that she made the grave mistake of browsing /here/ and tanked her mental...
>>14302344
Well, there's really 3 ways you can approach reading SCs
-set the expectation that they will NEVER have a dedicated SC reading early and stick to it
-Read ALL of them, turn the SC readings into Zatsu as to not completely slaughter numbers
-half ass it, sometimes SC readings, but make no guarantees that you'll be able to read every SC that comes in
Suisei and Ina are in the first camp, Watame, Lamy and Kiara are in the second, and Gura (not sure who else) is in the third.

>> No.14302776

>>14300653
It could also just be a female staff member testing out stuff or even posing for a picture.

>> No.14302806

>>14302697
that is sadly true, but she is the closest one and possibly the only one who can do it.. i'm also kind of curious on what sort of numbers that type of series might bring

>> No.14302825

>>14301982
Remember Gura will keep growing for the whole year as well, she's still getting 90k subs a month right now. That would put her at around 4.7M in 2023 (probably a little less). Do you think there's any possible way Chloe will have that much by then? Better set aside $100 to pay that off when it comes due.

>> No.14302923

>>14302806
>she is the closest one and possibly the only one who can do it
She actually did it back on her Australian arc. She got plenty if first places on Tetris 99
>OFF STREAM
then fucked up on stream exactly because she gets sidetracked by external distractions like getting sniped

She's the only one to have beaten Suisei on a 1 on 1 match on stream to this day

>> No.14302972

>>14302923
yeah i know, but i mean more of winning 6-4 or getting 5-5 than 1-10..

>> No.14303339

>>14295866
Im gonna be honest here...
I already noticing laplus starting to break character even before 2 weeks in...

Her twitter activities shows that she is maintaining parasocial relationship with her fans even when she say she doesnt want gachikoi...

And the worst of all, there are moments during her karaoke stream where she keep screaming for no reason..don't get me started on the part where she literally barks like a dog (im not joking) for no reason on stream when singing which is a big no no...

>> No.14303457
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>>14297051
Why isn't Niji ID shown? They went and updated the EN picture with Ethyria.... Intern kun should be fired for forgetting about an entire overseas branch. Hopefully this doesn't mean anything bad down the future for the ID branch, they have some decent livers.

>> No.14303487

>>14303457
>livers.
Kill yourself.

>> No.14303498

>>14303457
KR...

>> No.14303556

>>14303457
Too embarrassing to show branches that don't even have a single member that can break 1k viewers.

>> No.14303598

>>14303457
It means they either don't care about them or are embarrassed to show them off.

>> No.14303608

>>14303457
> Why isn't Niji ID shown?
Just like yumeno, the execs are thinking of axing the branch around the end of next year. It won't look good to include them on the front pages.

>> No.14303649

>>14303608
yumenographia was in one of the slides

>> No.14303658

>>14303457
They show up a few slides later, but the lack of Bora is depressing...

>> No.14303740

>>14303608
The interesting thing is, despite the low viewership, KR branch actually earned more money in SC than ID by quite a bit.

>> No.14303797

>>14303740
They should graduate all of KR though. Bora got around 40% of her total sc in her graduation stream.

>> No.14303808

>>14303740
Bora singlehandedly carried KR but she's not there anymore...

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>>14303649
>yumenographia was in one of the slides
OH NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.14303819

>>14303339
Fuck off, that was kino. She was nervous as fuck and kept doing weird shit.

>> No.14303903

>>14303808
Even without Bora, KR out earns ID.

>> No.14303948

Anyone here has an update on the recent Yumenographia leaks?

>> No.14303959

>FUCKING CHINKS
I love this bitch, I won't ever forget the zhangs and what they took from us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcW75aH5WXE

>> No.14303999

>>14303740
Makes sense if you think about it, the Korean market is far richer than the ID one so no shit they make more money there.

>> No.14304042

>>14303959
How is this even remotely related to numbers?

>> No.14304062

>>14303948
narukami did a video on this after getting a leak from one of the fired staff if you are interested

>> No.14304159

>>14304062
>narukami
No, fuck off

>> No.14304196

>>14304062
Oh I see. Thanks.

>> No.14304202

>>14302509
>Mumei browses /here/
Only has one emotional breakdown but is fine afterwards
>Kronii browses /here/
Seems to have been ground to a mental pulp

I still think Cover should ban 4chan or at least have the older ones warn the newer ones about egosa. Farm fans on twitter and get paid.

>> No.14304288

Back on the topic on numbers. Many of the hololive en are planning on going on holiday break. I think the soonest is Sana who planning to take an break after this week for a while. I also know Mumei is planning to take an holiday break in the second half of the month. How do you think this is going to impact hololive en numbers since a good portion of talents are going to be out.

>> No.14304415
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>HOW DO WE SAVE BIDEN LADS!?
I mean, former WH VA was a fool but he got the numbers, 30k, 40k, even 100k in his rallies.

Then they changed the VA and he's now failing to break 1k. HOW DO WE SAVE THEM LADS!?

>> No.14304531 [DELETED] 

>>14304288
Myth will have the new outfit buff (if it goes well) to keep people interest until Christmas...Council otherwise will lose even more viewers if they really decided to take holiday break

>> No.14304547

>>14304062
Isn't Anycolor trying to body him? Wouldn't his lawyer tell him to shut the fuck up?

>>14303339
That is the danger of hiring a [REDACTED] aged girl and giving them a taste of high tier success.

>> No.14304558

numbers? hello? this place is just a second shittier hlg lol

>> No.14304783

>>14304288
Council is just there to fill up collab spots so that Myth doesn't feel "lonely" in the "bubble". It's okay if council wants to take a break. Myth will stream as usual like last year.

>> No.14304868

>>14304558
Ina with 6.1k warning about no backseating after the last HL stream. I expect her to mintain her mediam.

>> No.14304948

>>14304288
>>14304531
Mumei did say she wanted to release prerecorded content and do rebroadcasts like Ame did for Thanksgiving during her break, so if that works out it won’t be too much of a problem.

>> No.14304971

>>14304783
HoloEN needs a number hungry gen. They made too many safe picks for Council.
>>14304558
Speculating on Council's lack of numbers and if that will continue is /#/'s

>> No.14305216

>>14304415
he needs to have more clippable ponkotsu moments, that's what carried the last one

>> No.14305469

>>14304288
This is why Niji grabbed several SEA / Asian VTubers. While HoloEN members are taking a break for Western holidays, NijiEN will be able to keep streaming as usual and likely attract Western fans who has nothing to do but sitting at home with their families. It’s time for another round of inclining

>> No.14305603

>>14304783
Myth will take a brake too

>> No.14305748

>>14305469
As a Holofan I want HoloEN to get some sobering. The scales need to fall from their eyes.

>> No.14305947

>>14304415
This man got the highest number of votes in history.

Du yu relly beleev it

>> No.14305969

>>14305603
Wait has Irys mentioned anything regarding taking a break?

>> No.14306242

>>14305969
Her throat is fucked in general, doubt she can do many long streams.

>> No.14306243

>>14305947
BOTS!

>> No.14306302

>>14305603
I only know Gura mentioned back in November that she's planning on another long break for family visit because she apparently not enjoying those previous ones but she isn't sure it will be on December, January or February.

>> No.14306412

>>14305947
dead voters, vote count is a useless metric

>> No.14306477

So compared to your average streamer how lazy is Holo EN?

>> No.14306533

>>14305603
>Taking a break during holiday season when everyone will have plenty of free time to watch streams
EN really don't understand the whole streaming thing yet do they

>> No.14306536

>>14305947
That only showed now much the other retard made leftists and self proclaimed centrists seethe, though

>> No.14306604

>>14306242
Her throat has been fucked for a month, but that hasn't affected her streams durations yet, though. Although I guess it’s true that there might be fewer streams if the issue doesn't pass soon

>> No.14306620

>>14306533
This what happens when you think you're secure and don't care about success. I wish they had the fire HoloX has. They could be earners instead of a side show to look good to investors. Without the sub counts they are bellow average.

>> No.14306621

>>14298036
Ah, that's not that big of a deal, several Holos and a lot of Nijis have said Taiwan since, the CN just get upset when you call it a country.

>> No.14306738

>>14306620
Yep, subs are the only thing they have
Aside from Gura, all of them are below even AKI in CCV
They really need to be dissolved soon else they'll bleed money from the superior branch...

>> No.14306757

>>14305603
En needs twitch grinders

>> No.14306844

>>14306738
Speaking in hyperbole doesn't make you cool or popular.
>>14306757
Naw, Omegatroon aims for "intangibles" picks. Get a grifter or two, as long as they aren't menhera it will work out.

>> No.14306866

It's incredible that in 2 gens of EN speakers, only one streams EU prime/early burger hours consistently (Kiara, since she's there and has the most stream hours in the branch by far).
EN needs a Flare or Watame so fucking badly

>> No.14307008

>>14298289
Iroha having 3 Ring Fit streams in a week is worse. Reeks of desperately pandering to coomers to bring her numbers up

>> No.14307127

>>14298128
Now do Gura

>> No.14307154

>>14307008
they're meant as workout with iroha type of streams rather than coomerbait. she doesn't get tired playing on max difficulty..

>> No.14307304

>>14307127
You mean Gura 10 days after debut ?
Chloe debut 11/29 - now 12/9

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Elira with over 4k votes in a stream she hasn't even hit 1k on yet. Normal viewer rotation or...?

>> No.14307408

dead thread

>> No.14307555

>>14307326
>1h ago
retardchama?

>> No.14307599
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14307599

Pink cat 10k get.
Honestly, people doompost about her numbers, but if this is her baseline for a morning stream like this, it's not bad. There's potential for growth here.

>> No.14307801

>>14307599
depends how it looks 3 months from now. if it grows then she will be strong as fuck and so will iroha, because they're in this shit together.

>> No.14307854

>>14307599
10k is paltry. 10k is not a good numbver.
It's going down.

>> No.14307856

>>14307008
???
Iroha barely panting on her RFA streams because it's too easy for her even at intensity level 30

>> No.14307878

>>14307326
>1hr ago

>> No.14307922

>>14307008
She's the new /fit/ holo. Move over Mr Koro

>> No.14307931

>>14306866
That timeslot kills your numbers though. People are working/in school

>> No.14307981

>>14307326
>Normal viewer rotation
Yes
You can make a post if you see +100% engagement in less than 5 minutes

>> No.14308028

>>14307856
can she beat this man?
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/p4qv6q/japanese_speedrunner_does_ring_fit_adventure/

>> No.14308037

>>14307326
it is weird when the number of votes is higher than ccv after like a minute or so, but it happens yes

>> No.14308080

>>14307854
10k is good anon, dont let debuts ruin your brain

>> No.14308101

>>14306866
There's no market in Europe so they don't bother streaming at prime time for them

>> No.14308125

>>14308028
>Speedrunning
I doubt she's autistic enough for that
But I'm interested to see if she can rival Lulu doing endurance RFA

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>> No.14308208

>>14308080
youre replying to bait

>> No.14308246

>>14308208
bait or not, it needs to be said

>> No.14308250

>>14307008
Why EOP is so retarded? Iroha barely panting. This is what happen if you have a dick as your brain.

>> No.14308310

>>14308080
Like 20+ hololive streams get 10k+ a day. How is that good? It is bellow par.

>> No.14308427

>>14308310
anon...you need help

>> No.14308455

>>14308310
if you are comparing holos it looks a bit "normal", but look at any other company and breaking 10k is a fucking milestone, I think nijiEN only had it once for example, and it was a collab with males

>> No.14308460

>>14306757
Mori can't travel to the US so she will be doing unscheduled streams during the holidays

>> No.14308467

>>14307854
If they settle even remotely close to Lamy levels of morning zatsu, that's at least a 7k+ stream average. And Lamy is able to reach 10k+ CCV on those. I honestly think there is a market for it, and it could be good money wise even if not by sheer CCV.

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14308527

Here is an updated Oricon list, I think Oricon anon counted totals for Suisei wrong this week so I've corrected it.

Some interesting things to note
-Suisei's Still Still Stellar will become the second best-selling album next week
-Seems like the cut for digital singles to be in a chart is 2500-3000 depending on the week, so you can assume other digital singles that are not here (especially new ones since some old releases are still missing here) had sales less than that

Upcoming releases to be tracked
2021/12/08 / MonsterZ MATE / WalkerZ
2021/12/15 / Rinne Henshin / V.W.P
2021/12/15 / Amatsuka Uto / Utopia
2021/12/22 / Wataru Sena feat.AZKi / Koi no Takuhaibin
2021/12/22 / Aliens / Taku Inoue + Mori Calliope + Hoshimachi Suisei
2022/02/14 / HIMEHINA / Sotai Nitoshin
2022/02/16 / Karen / Sister Princess VTuber project -song collection-
2022/03/09 / Kuzuha / Sweet Bite

Do you anons think Aliens should be included? It is an EP that has one song from both Suisei and Calli, I'd personally include it here but maybe some people disagree. Might've missed a few releases here so feel free to correct.

>> No.14308533

>>14308455
NijiEN is the minor leagues, pink coyote plays in the majors. 10k isn't disgraceful but it is not good.
>>14308467
dunno if she is good on SCs. Has she been encouraging gachis?

>> No.14308537

What went wrong with Europe? Why do they not watch vtubers?

>> No.14308564

>>14306738
stop baiting

>> No.14308612

>>14308537
cause we are normalfag central, who view anime as a pedos entertainment

>> No.14308648

>>14306866
Better than what Reddit Duck does

>> No.14308746

dead thread

>> No.14308753

>>14308250
They simply don't watch streams.

>>14308455
>but look at any other company and breaking 10k is a fucking milestone, I think nijiEN only had it once for example
Just to remind you guys that 10k was the total (it was Selen Event Apex and a full nijien collab altogether added)

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>>14308533
>dunno if she is good on SCs.
Anon... this should tell you all that you need to know...

>> No.14308843

>>14296622
So Reddit Duck had to resort to doing voice impressions of Miko to place in the top 3. Reddit Duck is leeching off of Elite Miko.

>> No.14308951

>>14308527
I think it could be included. Even though Taku Inoue is not a vtuber it would be nice as contrast.

>> No.14309059

i wonder what the next schizo arc will be

>> No.14309163

Does Fauna have a dedicated fanbase?

>> No.14309222

>>14309163
/uuu/ exists and there are dozens? of us.

>> No.14309304

>>14309222
Yes but does she get a fair amount of SC?

>> No.14309389

>>14309222
Why is Fauna's thread called /uuu/, trips-kun?

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>>14303948
I took a bullet and checked, the leak is pretty interesting

Basically Yumenographia wasn't closed due to not making enough bucks like they told officially but because they were contacted by some stock holders who thought that service was too "sensitive"
It say that since the risk exist that the girls could meet the customers in real life, and by looking at the logs they did find some customers who tried to do that, and that since there was no way this risk could be prevented without investing a ton they decided it wasn't worth the risk

The final paragraph mentions that for everyone involved it's better to not talk about the true "sensitive" reason and just say that it's due to the lack of profit

>> No.14309561

>>14307599
You know dam well this is not their baseline

>> No.14309589

>>14309422
Makes sense, tickets were often sold out.

>> No.14309626

>>14309389
Not him but she does uuu every so often.

>> No.14309627

>>14309389
https://youtube.com/shorts/TZ1EIoTLqXA?feature=share

>> No.14309671

>>14309422
Sasuga black company.
On a more serious note, what did they expect? Seems like the concept was flawed to begin with judging by the nature of the service.

>> No.14309689

>>14309422
Isn't this the conclusion that anons agreed made the most sense in the first place?

>>14304547
>Isn't Anycolor trying to body him? Wouldn't his lawyer tell him to shut the fuck up?
They can't stop him from telling the truth, I assume. The ones most likely to suffer the consequences are the people who leaked the info in the first place.

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>>14309422
Second leak is about a mail sent to the entire yumenographia staff following the first "お気持ち" tweets
Well it's told in nice words but basically it forbids them to react, saying that Anycolors was going to take steps against those who already tweeted/talked about it

Well they are at fault for firing 53 people but I can understand being afraid of a "お気持ち" shitstorm, remember .LIVE

>> No.14309818

>Ame with 1.3k
Jesus.

>> No.14309840

>>14309304
She gets more than Baelz. Her PL tweets might or might not be a factor in her relatively low income. Hard to say how many people actually care about that.

>> No.14309975

>>14309723
So wait, the timeline was they got fired first, tweeted and then told to shut up about it or they were told to shut up, got fired and then tweeted about it?

>> No.14310022

>>14308527
Watamates, explain why you didn't buy your oshi's album.

>> No.14310064

>>14310022
The album came as part of her $120 birthday/anniversary pack.

>> No.14310119

>>14300455
Heck yeah, Furen is inclining!

>> No.14310202

>>14303339
>she keep screaming for no reason.
>she literally barks like a dog
B-but that's in character, though...

>> No.14310220

>>14309975
>Anycolor: Yumenographia is doing well, new girls were just hired and we are even preparing a man branch
>Stockholder-sama: holy fuck is it a whore house?
>Anycolor: SHUT IT DOWN SHUT IT DOWN
>Anycolor: Girls, our stock holders think you are whores so we will fire you but since we are nice we are going to tell it's due to lack of profit
>Girls: What the fuck!!! I'm going to tweet about it
>Anycolor: Hey you whores, don't you dare talk about your feelings or girly shit like this or we will fuck you up

Basically like this

>> No.14310380

>>14310220
>Stockholder-sama: holy fuck is it a whore house?
KEK

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