/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>14236861
>Cover should plan
Holostars are a secondary group, Hololive will always be given priority in scheduling.

>>14237198
Well at least they get more attention and money from Cover than HoloID and HoloEN. They have all the resources but they just are so shit that no one cares.

>>14236861
Kys falseflagger.

>>14237198
Cope. Yagoo gives them more money and effort for their 3Ds than the girls.

>>14236861
Stay in your containment thread

>>14237198
Reminder that Pekoras superchats fund the Holostar 3Ds

>>14237360
Or maybe Cover has fixed expenses on the 3D studio and needs it to be occupied as often as possible to get their money's worth. Do they own the space and equipment or is it partially rentals?

>>14236861

>>14237439
I really hope that Homostars thank Hololive girls every day for paying their bills.

>>14237310
>get more attention and money
>HoloID and HoloEN.
ID for fucking sure, but EN? dude the only reason they don't have 3Ds is because of the pandemic, plus they have some of the best merch, have a constant flow of promotions and appear at actual relevant events

>>14237571
>plus they have some of the best merch, have a constant flow of promotions and appear at actual relevant events
>source: my ass

>>14237395
We don't want him

>>14237571
>the only reason they don't have 3Ds is because of the pandemic
When will this rrat die?

>>14237682
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1460593978391547904?s=20

>>14237734
Even the girls found this corpo bullshit absurd. Watch streams.

>>14237651
What are you talking about? The number thread is the shithole of this board. All anons numberposting should confine themselves there

>>14236861
Mio not streaming over Astel would barely make any difference. The problem is with JP Hololive fans. A significant amount of Japanese Hololive watchers are Holostars antis, they are tribalists by nature and refuse to watch Holostars even if there is nobody in Hololive streaming. Because of this, the girls shilling the boys to make their audiences watch them would just backfire and create a lot of hate.

Blame .LIVE. It didn't used to be like this until .LIVE died and their schizo fans migrated to Hololive.

>>14238003
>Blame .LIVE. It didn't used to be like this until .LIVE died and their schizo fans migrated to Hololive.
Stop posting this /vt/ fanfic

>>14238003
>It didn't used to be like this until .LIVE died and their schizo fans migrated to Hololive
Ah yes, because there's more than 100k .Live fans before right?

>>14238003
Why do Holostar fans think they're owed viewers?

>>14236861
>>the best Holostar stream of all time
Shien's 3D debut was unironically better and deserves having more live viewers.

>>14237439
Anon, most of the girls' 3D happened when they were nobodies. So it does not matter if Pekora gets lots akas (or exists at all) for Holostars to have 3D.

Beg for more collabs

>>14236861
>under 15k viewers
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

The smol Calli concert will get many times more viewers than profesional Cover production. And all paid by Watson Industries, no Cover needed. Fuck Yagoo.

>>14237439
care to explain please?!

>>14238280
yeah and most of the girls 3D were shit
now they can use all of Hololives money and give the boys kino 3Ds that they deserve

>>14238401
Cover gets half of the SC money after the 30% YT cut. Then Cover spends the money on the boys.

>>14236861
>I blame Mio for having her anniversary stream at the same time.
You are right on the money. I was waiting for his stream to start, when I was notified my oshi would be calling Mio.
But then again, I only watch Astel on occasion - does he really need a bunch of tourists around for his 3D?

>>14238157
it's just usual crazy astellas, even other holostars fans hates them

>>14238465
NICE,

>>14238465
wait but why pekora, it is from everyone right lol

>>14236861

>>14237571
>no 3Ds
>delayed costumes
YAGOO is a faggot.

>>14236861
>>the best Holostar stream of all time
>>easily the best 3D debut in all of Hololive Productions
I'm going to post all my complaints about the stream right now and explain why this is wrong again, regardless of the fact that this thread is bait.
>More than half the stream was pre-recorded shit, which would be fine if this wasn't his 3D DEBUT THAT HE HAD BEEN HYPING UP FOR OVER A YEAR, NOT TO MENTION ALSO HIS ANNIVERSARY STREAM.
>Astel himself didn't do a good job showing his own energy, segments were moreso carried by the others while Astel was just kind of present or along for the ride at times.
>The segments themselves were all over the place with some being silly or at least high energy while others just being kind of slow or just kind of nothing.
>The new stages were neat but too little time was spent on them
All in all I think it was a massive waste of potential. For something that was hyped up for an entire year, I personally feel they dropped the ball. I think they should've just done either a straight up 60 minute concert, or just did a basic 3D debut with each holostar calling in or some of them being there in one longer segment rather than a bunch of small ones that had to be quickly completed for the sake of time. The scope was probably too high, and it fell short because of that.

>>14237439
Given how bad her own 3D streams were i wouldn't be surprised if that were to be true.

>>14237439
>Pekoras superchats
You mean all holoJPs, holoIDs and holoENs?

>>14238507
Yeah, I'm starting to see a pattern. You never hear about the fans of the wholesome blond one being this delusional.

>>14236861
I just wanted to say that I really don't care.

>>14238594
Pekora had a breakdown on stream once where she was mad at management for rejecting her idea for a project, and she bitched about management saying that if they can't afford to support her ideas, she wonders where all the money they're siphoning from her is going.

>>14238594
Pekora in particular cried on stream because she didn't understand what Cover was doing it with all the money they get and that she couldn't repay her fans and she rarely reads SC now since that happened. That's why shitposters always mention Pekora.

>>14238335
>The smol Calli concert will get many times more viewers than profesional Cover production. And all paid by Watson Industries, no Cover needed. Fuck Yagoo.

>Cover doesn't pay a cent for concert or 3D model
>it's a huge success
>30% of the money goes to Cover
Cover wins in the end anyway.

>>14237808
timestamp

>>14239078
That's why I hope all of Myth leaves Hololive and start their own thing.

>>14239239
kek

>>14236861
>I blame Mio for having her anniversary stream at the same time.
I blame Mio for being such a hot hag

>>14236861
>I blame Mio for having her anniversary stream at the same time. Cover really should plan their schedules better.
Like how Shien streamed over thousand streams.

>>14236861
I could curl out the smoothest shit of all time, but people still aren't going to waste their time watching it.

All the extra bullshit Astel had that the others dont came from his pocket

>>14236861
How well did it go on the sc department?

>>14236861
Women like men who are successful and popular, and that usually involves winning the respect and favor of other men. Even if a man wins with women, if he's considered a nonstarter with men then his appeal will invariably plateau.

tldr male idols kneecap their own growth by completely tailoring their appeal to women's sensibilities

>>14238335
It doesn't even need to be a concert. Most mid-size holos beat those numbers with a standard karaoke.

>>14240507

>>14241830
Astel has some kanemochi fans

>>14236861
The best Hololive 3D stream was Mel's Birthday and it didn't break any Hololive record either. Also, Astel barely marketed the event.

>>14242218
>The best Hololive 3D stream was Mel's Birthda
Astel's was better

hag supremacy.

>>14238938
>>14238989
I still wonder what idea she had to where management shot it down as "too expensive". I mean they're working on games now for fucks sake, that's gonna be more expensive than just a simple 3D stream or something.

>>14242997
it wasn't because it was expensive

>>14242997
It wasn't because of money, it's just that whatever she asked for wasn't posible at the moment. Whatever she had planed for her birthday also fell through because of Corona so she had to improvise on the spot with the staff

>>14237608
>denying publicly observable facts

No need to tell everyone that you're a huge fucking moron just because it's an anonymous board, anon.

>>14236861
????
Holostars streamed over Hololive events all the time too

>>14245415
The Holostars need help and viewers, Hololive doesn't

>>14245575
If they were any good, they'd have the viewers. No help can save them. Yagoo has helped them with all the money and resources but they just are that bad.

>>14245665
Cover constantly neglects them and the girls ignore them, how are they supposed to know when they're shoved in the basement compared to the girls who are front page on anything cover does

>>14245710
Bullshit. Cover/Yagoo gives them all the money and resources. It's not the job of Hololive girls to try save these failures. If they can't do it themselves, they don't deserve it. They just are that bad, accept it.

>>14238335
Ame should just do what she figured out on the Bus Simulator stream: make Calli do the smol 3D concert on Ame's channel and give Calli half the superchat revenue, keeping the rest for herself

>>14245799
>It's not the job of Hololive girls to try save these failures. If they can't do it themselves, they don't deserve it. They just are that bad, accept it.
The Hololive girls lack any semblance of empathy and would rather milk desperate men of all of their money than help their struggling coworkers

>>14238465
>Then Cover spends the money on the boys.
more like spend it on a shovelware MMO

>>14245799
>Cover/Yagoo gives them all the money and resources.
No he doesn't you faggot, it took TWO FUCKING YEARS for them to get their 3Ds and they still get left out of Cover's projects. Where's the Holostars on the lawson collab?
>It's not the job of Hololive girls to try save these failures
They're their coworkers

Homobeggars can fuck right off with their pissy attitude and outright lies when HoloMyth can be succesful with their own money and resources, It's so fucking tiresome to read Homofans bitch and moan all the time when HoloMyth actually work for their success.

>>14237439
Holostars superchats fund Pekora's new outfit

>>14242997
It's not necessarily more expensive than a game; securing the funding and anticipating the ROI for that might well have been far different from whatever it is Peko wanted to do
Like I work in a comic book store, we legitimately can't afford to spend $200 on a fancy vacuum even though we afford thousands of dollars a month in new comics

>>14246092
It's only astelfags, other homofans are pretty chill

>>14237465
This is great. Am stealing now.

>>14242997
Why doesn't she just fund her big projects herself if she's so passionate about them?

>>14241830
Jesas, not bad... not at all.

>>14246440
The problem wasn't the funding, it's the she wasn't allowed to do it.

>>14245950
>>14245909
>muh coworkers
Who cares? It's the companys job to treat their employees right, not having others take pity on them.
And they're not the same branch and never will be.

>>14246942
>And they're not the same branch and never will be.
ASTEL WILL CHANGE HOLPRO

>>14246942
If you don’t help your coworker from a different department who does a shitty job you’re a literal monsyer

>>14247009
>monsyer
?

>>14236861
How could anyone not cry from this stream? I legit let out my manly tears. THANK YOU FOR THIS AMAZING WILD RIDE,ASTEL, HOLOSTARS AND EVERY STAFF SAN INVOLVE.

NOW LET'S GO FAR AND BEYOND HOLOSTARS!!!

>>14247009
>helping a failure more than once
Let them suffer

>>14245950
>Where's the Holostars on the lawson collab?
Where's EN and ID sake? Where's the fancy restaurant?

>>14247009
I honestly don't get this "help coworker shit".
Fubuki, one of the MOST popular holos, has been saviorfagging this branch of losers for years now. No one wants to watch them, it's that simple. Unless you put a fucking gun to Pekora/Gura's head and have them stream with them 5 times a week, no one will even care about 1 off collabs or start watching them if they happen either.

>>14248160
Holostars are barely even of note compared to Hololive. Astel has yet to compete with Roberu let alone compare numbers with council.

>>14248662
>Unless you put a fucking gun to Pekora/Gura's head and have them stream with them 5 times a week, no one will even care about 1 off collabs or start watching them if they happen either.
I'll burn COVER to the ground after the first stream.

>>14248160
>How could anyone not cry from this stream?
By not being a gaylord?

I'm honestly the surprised at the little amount of bait threads this 3D round had. Temma's got way more.

>>14248844
One of the meido is an astelffag.

>>14242301
I'm not child enough to care which is better than the other.
My point is that Astel's 3D was never going to hit game changer numbers.
It wasn't Mio that fucked his views, it's 6th gen.

>>14251344
>It wasn't Mio that fucked his views, it's 6th gen.
Stop blaming others. Holostars fucked Holostars views. It is that simple.

>>14248566
>>14248662
>It's OK to no have any empathy

>>14251687
>Stop blaming others. Holostars fucked Holostars views. It is that simple.
Holostars are Hololive, if Koyori mentioned Astel in her morning radio instead of ignoring him it would have helped, IF FUCKING MIO DIDN'T HAVE HER ANNIVERSARY AT THE EXACT SAME FUCKING TIME
which by the way wasn't anything special and she could have delayed an hour, it all would have helped

>>14251702
I don't think you know what that word means.

>>14236861
Astel has the 'being a furry' debuff.

>>14238037
Sio engineered the .LIVE drama to help the debut of her best friend Towa and then reincarnated so they can collab together. Towa shoots herself in the foot a couple months later and wastes all of her effort. Towa...

>>14251742
>Holostars are Hololive
Let's be real here, people who enjoy cute girls don't necessarily enjoy cute guys. That's why the two are separate.
If the girls suddenly started shilling for Stars, it would be a bother to their fans.
Also, have you considered the guy's feelings? They sure as hell don't want to be carried along, and given handouts. That would be a depression and graduation in the making.
Let them stand on their own legs, they aren't toddlers. The girls didn't start out famous either, but worked hard for the popularity Hololive enjoys today.

>>14252059
>Also, have you considered the guy's feelings? They sure as hell don't want to be carried along, and given handouts. That would be a depression and graduation in the making.
Astel wants to unite Holopro

>14252128
people watching out of pity won't achieve that

>>14252192
The girls should stop ignoring him, then maybe their lives would stop being absolute dogshit and could be actually good like Astels. He mogged the shit out of the Gen 3 concert

>>14252059
>Also, have you considered the guy's feelings? They sure as hell don't want to be carried along, and given handouts. That would be a depression and graduation in the making.
I agree with this. They haven't been...thrilled...about their treatment, as noted by the several graduations and miyabi saying so himself, but they're very happy and grateful for their recent growth.

also cant forget that astel cried like a menhera when he heard coco was graduating lol

>>14252241
>He mogged the shit out of the Gen 3 concert

that's not hard to do when youre up against noel, who his horrible at singing, and pekora who is incapable of doing good 3d streams

>>14238684
It was for Astellas and fans of Holostars, not children with 0 attention span.
>DURRRR HE WASN'T LE WACKY SEAWEED LIKE IN MY CLIPS

>>14248844
The only thing people have to say about Temma is that he's boring and aunties already know that.

>>14236861
>watch the apparently "best holostar stream of all time"
>"the best debut of hololive history"
>still can only complain about numbers
There is no saving you faggots.

>>14252519
my oshi is roberu and i cant stand the current "popularity" he has. i think i just dont like my oshi being popular.

>>14252241
And they mog your shart numbers, on ccv and superchats.

Being a homo fan is tiring on this board. Believe it or not, both audiences do not overlap that much and just because someone doesn't want to watch the boys does not mean they're a deranged unicorn. Just chill for a bit.

>>14251702
You should donate more, more than those "incel" fans. Maybe the girls will gain some "empathy" if they see holostars get more superchats than them.

>>14252723
>both audiences do not overlap that much
It's literally one big audience, they overlap in anything

>>14252937
You fucking wish, where're those 60k viewers from holocomi?

>>14252638
>And they mog your shart numbers, on ccv and superchats.
Who give a shit lol, the stars are the future of the industry the girls will get raped and linched in few years that's the cost of those number

>>14252937
Are you a retard? No, seriously?
I watched a couple of Astel's streams, judging from the comments his fans are mostly underage girls.
Hololive's audience is mostly adult males.
How did you make these two overlap in your brain?

>>14253126
All of their irl info is everywhere and zero incident. Stay mad fag, they rape your shart's numbers.

>>14252937
No it fucking isn't. I follow Holostars fans and aside from retweeting art they really do not care much about the girls. I am in their chats and everyone begging for collabs are grey names with male usernames.

>>14242997
>I still wonder what idea she had to where management shot it down as "too expensive".
It was a collab with DSP, but he only wanted to do it if Cover paid off his debts.

>>14253274
Just wait until Pekora sneezes near a male and she's going to appear dead and raped in dumpster by the next day lmaoooooooooooo

>>14253534
You fucking wish falseflagger ahahahahaha. Daily reminder that your oshi makes less than Pekora.

>>14252128
And Oga himself says not to force people into collabs, you flaming faggot. I didn't want to think that Astellas are actually the biggest problem with Homobegging, but you're not helping the perception.

boo hoo

>>14252128
>Astel wants to unite Holopro
Source

>>14238321
you will never be japanese

>>14256872
This is funny, but why Oga?

>>14267914
stop being an incel

>>14268254
Stop being a faggot.

>>14268169
schizos shipping him with his own fucking wife. they're already married, what's there to ship?

>>14268169

>>14268341
his ex schizo gf almost killed him

>>14244593
absolutely terrible try being less retarded

>>14236861
Hololive isnt Nijisanji. You cant force people to watch something they dont want to watch.

>>14268617
kys ratio sage /thread

>>14236861
>Best 3D debut in all of Hololive
Nigga this was the best 3D debut ever period. No need for the Hololive qualifier.

>>14269332
This was legit better than Kuzuha's sololive

asstelfags are fucking obnoxious

>>14269461
ah yes as always kuzuha is the blueprint

>>14268400
When did he reveal that he had an ex schizo gf? Is this a rrat or something?

>>14238838
Thats because the knight isn't as popular. Its Roberu/Astel at the top but yes, Astelfags are weird. Still remember that unironic super concernfag last year.
>>14246440
Would she even know how to organise a project thats big?
>>14248844
People were on hopium that Astel's 3D would beat whatever Kuzuha was streaming because that would be the icing on the cake after he lost to Mel and Moona.