/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

Is median calculated by total average divided by total days of the month?

>>14238483
Do you not know what a median is?

Predictions for tomorrow's HoloX first stream with superchat?
I'm throwing a red for MY DARKNESS

>26,313 waiting
come on rushia...

>>14238529
Darkness is going to be lavished with gifts befitting her wagahai status

>>14238522
It's the retard who thought median was the lowest number and tried to talk shit last thread

This Rushia stream will get into the top 5 without ever being streamed.

>delay 15 minutes
>then more delay
That must be some good lesbian sex

Mori 15k get can she get 20k??

Rushia and Marine are waiting until the waiting room has enough people for an automatic gold before they start.

>>14237921
Flare is a full-fledged samurai too, not just anh archer. Those 2 katana are now for show

>>14238712
THEY'RE FUCKING

Current Dec median ( more than 3 streams) :
Pekora : 35K+ Chloe : 34K+

>>14238406
YES MY DARK

>>14238529
Wagahai will get a lot because her pc is crap.

Dissapointed with gartic numbers. But i guess it is expectes. Lets see how much subs decrease today

>>14238529
$40k is actually possible for Laplus and Chloe.

The others will be around $15k-30k

>>14236854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2e8o9SriKE
Btw Patra was opening Hololive cards this stream.
Yes, you can include her in the Holo count,

>>14238675
Should be able to

>>14238833
Huh, I really thought Chloe's high number would pull it higher than Pekora, that's impressive for Pekora who might not get a gold this month.

>>14238529
50k.

>>14238529
Wagahai for poverty bonus, I still think Chloe will get more cause she looks like the ideal SC baiter.

>MariRushi+Leech offcollab 27k waiting
>ChloeLui offcollab 38k peak
Sankisei still dabs on the shiny new whores with debut buff...

>>14238911
Pekora is very good at keeping high floor .

Kanata debuff...

Rushia put your scarf on please

>>14238529
It'd be beyond fucked up if Laplus or Chloe doesn't beat the lazy clock cunt's record.

>>14239015
The Long Neck is scaring viewers away lmfao

>>14238910
Isn't this too much?

>>14239009
Your mother

>>14238529
Plss SC my oshi nin nin gozaru she deserve it

Seriously Marin's neck is no better...

>>14239100
focus on the stream gorillahands

>>14239015
>>14239072
Shit, I can't unsee it

>>14238980
They waited too long and people went to watch other streams, they won't beat the JP6 girls now.

>>14238859
Who are the honorary Holos?

>>14238833
Laplus might steal Chloe's spot, if today's collab is of any indication.

>>14239158
Yeah, and Shark might steal Mori's spot in SC. Higher views doesn't necessarily mean more SCs

>>14238032
>>14238133
Orca still has no frame. Maybe you misheard.
but Lui will be singing at 24:00JST

>>14239217
Nigger we're talking median not dosh

>>14239119
Holy shit those necks, what the hell.

>>14238529
the question is who will be the kronii of their gen taking breaks after receiving their paychecks

>>14239217
Laplus got that poverty card.

>>14239217
no one brought up supers aside from you

>>14239150
sany channel

>>14239070
So, top monetization streams in holo based on Playboard
1. Coco - ¥5,902,429
2. Kronii - ¥5,137,176
3. Calli - ¥3,053,484

With Lauren blowing everyone out of the water overall - ¥6,761,713

Where's the anon with the exact numbers list?

>>14239224
She said she was going to ask for permission first. Probably a new game or something

>>14239245
>>14239261
I'll take my meds now...

>>14239127
I like this particular piece of art because the artist give Sankisei their canon neck

>>14238833
That's really close. Is it just this month so far?

>>14239325
Marine is E.T

Hololive still holding 120k+ Viewers. Impressive
>Didn't include Patra ofcourse

I feel that an good cover or original can up buff Chloe considering that she ad Iroha are the only ones of their gen with a without a cover

>>14239477
>Iroha
Soon de gozaru, after recovering data from her smacked PC

>>14239364
Yes. Also From the top of my head there are 5 members who have 30k+ median this month(currently)

>>14239477
Iroha is still working on hers, no idea about Chloe

>>14239459
I forgot to put the image lmao
>The total numbers went down by 2k

>>14239477
Now that I think about the one thing that ruins the rrat of Chloe being a unfeeling machine hungry for numbers is the fact she didn't make a single song or cover ready for her debut.

>>14239119
Marine's boobs help distract from it.

>>14239667
Chloe did do 3 karaoke streams with one of them being an english only karaoke.

>>14238844
>Garbage PC
>Streams with a PNG from her iphone, no tablet
>Uses Free Internet from Okinawa
If Lapoor doesn't gets all the Superchats I will riot on the internet

>>14239617
Graduate Sana, please.

>>14239617
what do blue and pink numbers mean?

>>14239754
She gets more supas than Kronii. She's going for the Flare route

>>14239721
I'm talking about studio made song VODs. Like what Laplus and Lui have. They give you a good amount of subscribers and potential viewers if said viewers aren't the one's who are into watching streams and the like. See Mori for her high sub-count, extremely large viewers count, but low live views to see what I mean.

>>14239914
But flare can sing.. The AU bitch can't

>>14238406
damn I gotta move to texas

>>14239966
>but low live views
Calli ranked #25 on the combined ranking, just short of 10k. I don't think this counts as "low view" unless your threshold of "high" only includes the Top 20

>>14239721
>>14239667
She is just looking for the more efortless way. Spamming as many streams doesnt take much and she also didnt practice for any of her 3 karaoke and the setlist was small.
You can be a numberfag and still be a little lazy

>>14240063

>>14239725
She will be 2nd among HoloX just like Leos is 2nd among eden gumi. They are both the poorfag of their gen for context.

>>14240063
Anything below 10k is low views.

>>14240071
>Effortless
If spamming streams is so easy, how come she is the only one doing it? Oh right, you are full of shit and have no idea what you are talking about

Rushia and Marine collab can't break 40k, that's a bit sad.

how?

>>14240099
Nijisanji main ch is not a vtuber.

>>14240146
I'm looking forward to Shion birthday. The trinity will all be there

>>14240163
You don't need to watch a stream to click "like"

>>14240142
>Oly one
Most are doing 2-3 streams a day

>>14240146
They're being debuffed by Kanata.

>>14240146
how does it feel not having a gold for 16 days nijikek?

>>14240163
Is been 2hrs and is a guerrilla where she is just hatching pokemons

>>14240192
>Oly
Oh, a seanigger:
Gonna ignore your take then

>>14240099
GO SUISEI

Why is the Kanata schizo from /hlg/ here now.

>>14240146
Well a lot of people are upset that the very long awaited Marine and Rushia offcollab turned into a Kanata collab. The vibe isn't the same when there's a third person awkwardlt sitting in the whole time for no reason...

>>14240274
he got btfo by the jp meido

>>14240071
...are you seriously going to compare streaming to fucking recording a music VOD (song covers mind you) where most of the work is done by mixers? This is way to stupid to be trolling.

>>14240248
Whatever floats your boat but even for making a lot of streams the other 3 are far better.
>>14240274
This place became hlg lite since not a lot of gatekeeping happens.

>>14240318
Ayame...?

>>14240142
You sound a little mad orcacuck

>>14240318
He is the kind of retarded nigger that think streaming is super easy and just requires you to play some game.
Kronni is living example that streaming and being good at it is not a simple as "play game"

>>14240318
I say chloe doesnt have what it takes to be a musical holo. The other made more of an effort than she.

Rui midnight utau, gen 6 not playing around.

The takeaway from today for me is that people really like hearing La+ talk.

>>14240430
Kronii is a lazy bitch and not an example of anything besides wasted potential.

>>14240488
>is that people really like hearing La+ talk.
Numbersfags don't watch streams because, if they did, that would be obvious.

Hopefully she won't alter her style like ClockGirl did, she was great at first then she changed into a more shrieky version of herself, ruining it

>>14240488
She is a nattural entertainer and also sets herself apart from most holos personality and content wise. She is ginna be the top dog down the line of her gen

lui...

>>14238859
I've had an argument with a nijinigger that Patra should be counted as an honorary niji because she mainly collabs with niji. But she's one of the few that can collab with a holo semi-regularly, she's a 35p, and now Laplus is an admitted fan of hers.

Anyway, I respect Patra's hustle. Opening those cards are a good way to legitimately hijack the holo algo and get holofans to check her out

>>14238529
All will hit 1 million each and DESTROY all other holopros!

>>14240538
She is probably going to be a total views monster thanks to all her shorts and pre recorded videos. The only thing she needs to do to seal the deal is to put full English translation in all of them.

This Rushia + Marine collab is pathetic. Hopefully the rest of gen3 end their stream to funnel this shit soon.

did the blue homo reach 20k earlier?

>>14239119

>>14239978
Alright you retard let me explain why they can't graduate her for whatever schizo motives you have in your head:
- She streams and is making money
- She's a great artist that will make you lots of art and merch in the long run
-She had a legit reason to take a break and if you kick her for it you'll earn ill will from your fans and employees
- She's a very well connected pro artist. If you kick her for a petty reason you'll have poisoned the well of artists willing to work for you
And most of all
-You already employ Ayame, the kind of Holo that streams once every 2 months and just comes back to collect Akas and promote her merch

>>14240631
3rd gen live ruined them

Let me guess, no niji in the top 3 again?

>>14240488
Chloe maybe has the leads in subs right now but La+ is the real deal here shes the next big thing

>>14240656
>pet dies
>legit reason

>>14239119
It's from all the choking they get from the hardcore SEXXXXXX

>>14240656
>-She had a legit reason to take a break
I hope you're joking, it was a reason to take a break for a week, not for an entire month.

>>14240419
I have no idea why this the angle of attack you're going for if you dislike Chloe when the whole point is that I'm complaining about the numbers orca that she's not going for the easier way of gaining numbers through releasing song covers.

>>14240469
I think she's kind of like Gura and Mori in a way with the preferring the casualness of karaokes where as VODs demand higher expectations.

>>14240656
>You already employ Ayame
Truth be told Ayame mogs Sana in both Watched Hours and in revenue

>>14240729
>pet
"pet", retardchama

>>14240698
Not even top 10

>>14240766
What are you implying? That she lost her boyfriend or a family member?

>>14240766
Was it her bf? Sanacucks...

>>14240631
I'm pretty certain they'd get more if Kanata wasn't there for whatever the fuck reason.

>>14240534
I'm not even a numberfag and I watch streams. I only come here because it feels like hlgg lite (+niji). I get updates on big stuff and there's way less clutter and shitty posts, probably because of better gatekeeping. Seeing updates on the numbers is cool too I guess.
NTA btw.

>JUST WOKE UP
Kuzuha managed to get broze today, didn't he? I'm feeling it by the despaired tone of Holofans, he was at 22k when I took my nap and silver was at 25k or so.

How did it go? Should I be kneeling by now? I'll kneel anyway in anticipation

>>14240698
yes, correct me if i´m wrong but i think even holoEN has more entries in the day than nijijp.

>>14240729
>>14240732
I know. I would have given her 2 weeks personally. But still. Will you graduate her for it and earn the ire of your fans and her genmates? No. At most you don't pay her for that month of absence but Hololive swims in money and they probably don't care.
If any of you were in charge of anything related to public relationships you wouldn't last 3 months.

>>14240698
Kuzuha only got 22k, i'm not even sure if it will bw included in the Top10

>>14240071
As if any artist would chose sana over hololive's automatic rise to stardome buff

>>14240777
just checked the list, what the fuck

>>14240823
>. But still. Will you graduate her for it
Nah, if she had good numbers like Ayame nobody would care, I want her to graduate because her numbers are shit, at this rate she will lose to fucking Nijien.

>>14240777
man that's just sad

>>14240656
You are trying to bring logic here. Most peoole here would make the girls brun themselces to death with only minecraft and karaokes every week.
Sana does work for cover and the other girls so it is a valuabke asset to have.
Anyway drawing collab today with mumei probabky another 8-10k to her belt.

>>14240777
Why is Nijisanji dead?
The only time they put up a fight now is during tournaments.

>>14240805
The fucking relay in one day is the most retarded way to debut a gen. It basically ruins the sleep of ll your talents and also tires them out.
Legit, whoever keeps thinking this is a good idea after what happened with Myth needs to be shot out of a cannon into space. Just copy what Holox did, surely that's the far superior method of debuting a new gen.

>>14240828
Meant for this>>14240656

>>14240897
their fans kill the livers

>>14240654
It doesn't look like she is using a mask like most holos

Nijis are still doing fine but Hololive's big numbers this month is making them look so weak.

Atleast they'll win gold on the 10th unless Hololive do something.

>>14240814
Holofans are despaired because Astel mogged every Hololive 3D debut

>>14240879
When you are looking at CCV only your a fucking idiot, numbers aren't just about one thing anon. It about subs, super, and cock size three things you have none of so fuck off ccv only fag

>>14240814
lmaoooo

>>14240982
>subs
Iiterally a useless metric

>>14241036
What happened to her? Do people not like her cuz she's Thai?

>>14240959
Outfit reveal is there. It's not going to be a close one.

>>14240982
>When you are looking at CCV only your a fucking idiot
Her numbers are shit period, the only thing it isn't complete garbage is supas but it doesn't make up for shit CCV, shit subs, and shit vods.

>It about subs, super, and cock size three things you have none of so fuck off ccv only fag
You sure sound like a redditor.

>>14241087
No outfit reveal on the 10th for some reason.

The hawk really fucked up her chance to shine
at this time slot.

I hope rui nee has a lot of gachikois to offset her lower number compared to her genmates.

>>14241133
Cause Hololive is doing a big announcement stream that day or something.

>>14241092
Still, Hololive doesn't graduates for numbers. Even shit tier number holos like Roboco, Mel, Aki, 4/6s of ID and 2/5 of Council completely mog 99% of the vtuber sphere and are making money.

>>14241082
She is a Thai?

>>14240982
WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT .... F-FUTA SANA!?!

I would superchat that

>>14241082
every stream under the moon is live right now. its over, she wont incline.

>>14240698
you know it

>>14241133
It's from 9th to 11th right ? So how does no outfit reveal falls on that day ? Difference of timezones ?

>>14241082
>>14241145
She is the most less experience in streaming among her genmates please understand

>>14241082
Almost all of holox are doing the same streams and people are picking favorites already

>>14241082
hag voice is not for everyone

>>14241187
She speaks thai

>>14241082
Mori is also doing a karaoke holding 18k+ hostage

>>14240897
they're not overseeing their talents enough.
for example, if kuzuha's manager forced him to better plan his streams and select content more people want to watch, he wouldn't be under 20k so often. but no, he is left to do as he pleases, half assing everything without any direction.
a major debut is a good way to extract money from his existing diehard fans, but it won't grow his channel or live views in the long run. even in the most favorable circumstances a male in this industry will never catch up to hololive numbers, that is a reality. but that's not an excuse for anycolor not to put in the necessary efforts to optimize kuzuha's performance.

>>14241275
>She is made for me

>>14241222
9th and 11th, they're skipping the 10th.

>>14240656
>trying to compare Sana to Ayame
>in /#/
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>14241318
Bu..but.. muh creative freedom..

>>14241318
That would go against the whole freedom Nijisanji gives its talents if they started forcing their talents to play certain buff games.
Not to mention he’s already lazy as hell and doing all the music and concert shit probably burning him out from streaming 10 hours a day like in summer.

>>14240726
I kinda hate her. She promised not to collab with males. I can't stand girls like that.

Stop pushing everything onto Kuzuha back Nijisister... his back will not last...

>ask why people are hating somebody for having low numbers
>Is in the numbers thread
I mean I like Sana and Council (don't watch her tho lol Mumei only), but are you seriously confused why anons dislike small numbers here and trying this hard to defend them this hard against numberfags in our own thread?

>>14241329
No there not both Kira and Ame are streaming their outfits on the 10th. Mori on the 9th. Gura and ina are on the 11th.

>>14241380
people often use the phrase creative freedom, but i don't think it's the creativity part that we need to discuss. anycolor's management is simply too lax, and it can benefit livers who have more ambitious projects in mind which is a good thing. but their biggest talent, kuzuha, is not at all like that.
if it was completely up to him, he would be sitting at home all day playing the same 2 or 3 games and doing absolutely nothing else. him going out every now and then for song recordings or dance lessons is the bare minimum, he needs to be pushed to do things for his actual channel as well. they're blessed with a natural entertainer who has gathered a loyal and reasonably sized fanbase and yet aren't doing anything to make up for his laziness or lack of interesting ideas for content.

>>14241092
So Stars and ID should graduate right? or is it only Sana because she could take a month off from stream even tho she's only been in the job for a month without getting the sack, while you still can't get a day off from your dead end job and have a hard time beating yourself off to numbers on a count of your already established micropenis?
>herp derp redditor
https://streamable.com/95c46y

>>14241502
I'm no unicorn but it only makes sense that she'll avoid collabing with men.
She's a cutesy GFE or daughter like character. Male collab will kill her numbers.

HoloEN Outfit reveal (JST)
Mori - 12/09 23:00
Kiara - 12/11 06:00
Ame - 12/11 11:00
Ina - 12/12 06:00
Gura - 12/12 09:00

That live chat counter that holostats added is neat

>>14241640
>So Stars and ID should graduate right?
Yes? What question is this?

>>14241569
you can hate on her all you want, but asking for her to be fired is simply retarded

>>14241605
There’s probably at most only a few in the whole company that take advantage of the creative freedom. Everyone else just uses it to be vulgar/raunchy.

>>14241640
Yes

>>14240794
>bf
*gf
She's literally gay for Ina

>2.3K people is watching Moona's autism unfold
Weird but neat, I guess?

>>14241666
Hot take: Mori and Ame won't get golds.
>>14241662
She said she doesn't need gachis. Collabs with males would help with that. It would also mean Stars/Nijis have a way into HoloX.

>>14239250
does it even matter anymore? NUUMBERs matter after all it makes me wonder who ops for a lesser pay check to not land in high income tax brackets which is a thing in japan

>>14241695
They just changed the design

>>14241569
I think at this point shitposters have taken over the thread. People cant discuss mid tier holos or low ones without being called failures. 10k is now a failure.
5k is a faikure.
People here stopped caring about the nature of numbers itself for each stream and started just comparing them in isolation.
Is a shame but that is what it is.

>>14241775
Doesn't matter if you opt for 'lower tax bracket' when it's progressive tax, as in only income in the higher bracket is affected by higher taxes. Japan has a progressive tax system, unless I've horribly misremembered since the last I looked into it.

>>14241763
>Her Pfp are still off-center after ten thousand year
My autism are going out of control!

>>14241145
the schedule was made at least before this week started.

>>14241443
>Not to mention he’s already lazy as hell and doing all the music and concert shit probably burning him out from streaming 10 hours a day like in summer.
and why do you think he is this way? i'm not saying he needs to do back to back 14 hour streams like he's done before, nor am i saying that they should overwork him. but enabling his laziness won't do him or the company as a whole any good either. giving someone like kuzuha too much freedom is stupid. he's not performing as well as he could be, and you could say the same for some of their other talents but i'm using kuzuha as an example because he's showing good results despite management's incompetence.

>>14241852
It's numberrot
Hololive's recent incline has fucked with perceptions.

>>14241318
>if kuzuha's manager forced him to better plan his streams and select content more people want to watch, he wouldn't be under 20k so often
t. Newfag
Mito is the proof of how much of an ass is your statement
Before Hololive boom Mito did as she pleased but recently she just started to do more stuff off-stream related to company.
What it led to? Her losing her status not only in the market but also in the company to Kuzuha whose content is not even the shadow of what Mito and even other Nijis do.
But also, you definetely don't know this, but Kuzuha was transfered to Nijisanji from his indie days, like Suisei with Hololive, So he brought his audience and drew new ones to Nijisanji by doing his half-assed content so the higher ups were like "why fix something that is not broken".
However, the rrat is that Kuzuha has connections with Sony which that would explain why Nijis had more games perms than Holos post Holocaust but also why management let him do whatever he wants.

>>14241766
Are you the same anon? I thought she just said she won't collab with male?
You're taking about Laplus Darknesss right?

>>14241921
Peak tourist time. The thread will die in an hour or so when all the SEAniggers go to bed.

Did Oricon anon post today?

>IF YOUR OSHI ISN'T GETTING AT LEAST 30k THREE TIMES A WEEK YOU MIGHT AS WELL KILL YOURSELF
WELL NUMBERFAGS!?! WILL YOU SURVIVE?!

>>14241640
You sure sound mad, maybe you should leave the number thread if someone calling your oshi shit upsets you so much.

>>14241766
>Hot take: Mori and Ame won't get golds
The only thing that could beat this is a HoloX or Gen3 collab with only 1 pov

>>14241666
so the 10th is free huh

>>14240982
Sana beats nijiEN in sc? if that's true, then I guess it's fine.

>19,857 Maximum Viewers
damn it mori

>>14241640
Numbers thread likes to play the "if i was a manager" so dont need to take them serious. Sana is constant with her numbers even if they are low and she gets boosted easily with buff content. I wish the remakes had battle factory and she would have shined there.

>>14242001
Kenmochi will get at least 80k on Thursday.
HoloEN has declined severely, tourists don't even show up and it's an EN doing an outfit reveal before people are even up on a weekday.

>>14242098
Did mori karaoke get higher peaks back in ze day? I cant recall

>>14242007
Kinda weird to leave that timeslot open.
The announcement will be on Hololive Channel? Is that really confirmed?

>>14241666
>Gura on weekend
Oh mean they learnt from Koyori the weekends are a buff for special events

>>14242156
isn´t the draft in the 10?

>ANOTHER DAY WHERE 20K WON'T GET YOU INTO THE TOP 10
WTF IS EVEN GOING ON!?!

>>14242157
She has been getting 20k+ for her unarchived lately but this one filters both JOPs and EOPs that do not like musicals.

>>14242156
The Draft will be on the 10th right?

>>14241954
She said she won't but she also said she doesn't need gachikoi. That doesn't add up. I think she should collab with males and lose the gachikoi.

>>14242165
announcement of what? pekora's outfit she will just announce on her own channel, maybe the official twitter repeats it right after

>>14241502
t.cuck

>>14242252
She’s just saying that so she’s not labeled a GFE vtuber.

>>14242165
It's going to be on the main channel, these sorts of announcements not tied to any one specific Holo usually are.

>>14242165
The outfits are for en audience not jp. So the schedule is made for eop.

>>14242252
>she won't
>she also said she doesn't need gachis
>which DEFINITELY means she will
Go sleep...

>>14241502
Let me guess, your oshi is Fauna or Mumei?

>>14242252
Nta but you sure are clinging on that statement. Why?
You want HoloX Star to fall by collabing with men? Or maybe Nijis leeching on her?

>there are hundreds leaving the Lui's stream
why

>>14241605
>he would be sitting at home all day playing the same 2 or 3 games and doing absolutely nothing else
Bu..but.. that's how he inclined anon, he is another anomaly like pekora

>>14242349
Is getting late

>>14242165
>>14242325
OOTL, what announcement? for JP? EN? or ID?

>>14241928
just because you disagree with me doesn't make me a newfag, but i don't feel like getting into a dick measuring contest with you. kuzuha being a scout (which at this point everyone on /vt/ knows and it's even been brought up several times in this exact general) has nothing to do with what i was saying, and i never said they needed to make him do more things off-stream so i have no clue where you even got that from.
>"why fix something that is not broken"
this is exactly what i think is the problem. i definitely understand the charm of kuzuha's laziness because i enjoy watching him and it's pretty funny. however, an approach like this leads to stagnation. management can give his channel and content direction while letting his entertainer persona shine. he himself already understands the importance of company backing for channel growth.

>>14242415
Christmas 3D costumes, new sponsorships, whatever upcoming shit is my guess.

>>14242252
>I think
I also think you should kys

>>14242157
>>14242248
It's on par with her karaoke streams

>>14242415
About that christmas event, is it the sky tree collab or something.
I'm not really sure as well.

>>14241852
It's because retards like you keep replying to their bait

>>14242415
KR

I'm surprised. Why aren't they making new art for the cards? Why are they just using old art kek

>>14241852
No one has called 10k a failure, but yeah 5k is definitely a failure.

Why do people keep pitting Kuzuha against female vtubers anyway? It's amazing that he can compete with the top holos as it is even though he doesn't have a vagina. Vtubing is a women thing and that hasn't changed yet.

>>14241990
Haha I'm just fucking with these cunts. I don't give two shits why do you think I keep talking about small cocks!?
I like all numbers. Big, mid and small I'mnot just looking at who's taking the Gold for the day. I'm not the one who pissed that Cover isn't firing people for small numbers. They haven't done it before, they aren't going to start doing it now because someone took a month off, if they did then a hell of alot of the holopros are gone, and then the ones left would leave not long after because of how their co-workers were treated.

>>14242252
t.zombicuck

>>14242309
>>14242347
We'll see but I will anti her if she eggs on gachikoi. She needs numbers, not trash. I think there are many creative directions she can go and it would be better for her mental health.
>>14242341
>HoloEN
Never have and never will watch them.

>>14242526
But he does have a vagina anon. Where have u been

>>14242554
You sound a lot like a redditor, just take the hint and fuck off already you dumb retard.

>>14242526
oh you want us to compare him with male streamers instead? like Jun, Dream and Xqc?

>>14242391
i know this, and i also know that he's reached the peak of how much he can incline with this method. things aren't the same for him now as they were in 2018. he's not retarded, if he wanted to 100% do what he wants without anything restraining him he would have never signed the contract. i am not saying everything he does needs to be planned nor that he needs to change the personality he has on stream. plus this is simply my personal opinion. in the end, i'm not involved behind the scenes nor am i a psychic so i can't say this is objectively the way to go.

>>14242526
I support equalit-
Joke aside, comparing numbers never really had anything to do with male or female categories. Kuzuha was always compared to Pekora to begin with, why change it now?
Is it because he's losing?

>>14242514
It's not cheap to make new art anon. It is both cheaper and faster to use the same art.

>>14242554
Settle down anon, noone actually believed that she will be graduated. Graduation is just a quick expression for shit numbers

>>14242220
>>14242251
My bad, I thought Mori's reveal was at 8:00 AM PST which would have counted for the 10th.

>>14242526
>Vtubing is a women thing and that hasn't changed yet.

Explain nijifemales then.

>>14242098
You ensharts are pathetic

>>14242514
Just use their 3D models and pose them like the Holos.

>>14242554
>>14242425
>>14242526
>Holy samefagging

>>14242607
Those aren't vtubers. Vtubing is a buff for females and a debuff for males.

>>14242526
New cope detected

>>14242554
You should graduate from life.

just ignore the sperg and sadpost lui

>>14242604
Cool cunt I'll stay longer just to piss you off more then
>herp derp redditor me small pee pee

>>14242697
Explain holostars then. The gap between holos and holostars is much bigger than the gap between the top male nijis and the top female nijis

>>14242514
They use concept art. It is also new, vtubers just update it not so often. For example, you can see Momo’s new concert art here which she has shown 4 days ago.

>>14242751
Ranboo just got 200k+ with his vtuber avatar.

>>14242697
T-They don't count.

>Haachama latest stream
The proportion of members to regular chat in her stream is awesome. Also, being a Haaton, it's hard as fuck to catch her streams live. She is chaotic as fuck and I have no idea of when she's supposed to be streaming anymore

>>14242659
But, isn't it considered disrespectful to fans to sell this cards to fans? The quality is shit, and the value is pretty non existent just because the art has been used plenty of times already.

>>14242491
We can say Hololive is on an all time high point of popularity with koreans rn...on the vtuber scene.
However, I would say is too soon, maybe next year.
But on the other hand...
>Irys was announced on Kiara's birthday
>Council first teaser was announced on another Kiara's important event
>X was announced on Kiara's first single anniversary
>Kiara's costume reveal will be just hours after the announcement
But Ame is on the same day so...

>>14242769
>Become an hero
>kys
>I am retarded

>>14242697
They're some of the top female vtubers in the world. 99th percentile. Holo numbers just rot your brain. Those are mostly unprecedented.

>>14242526
And when is Koshien month we start to compare again i'm right.

>>14239272
Prediction for HoloX:
Chloe: over 10 mil yen.
Everyone else: around 3-4 mil yen.

>>14242843
Also


>WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Youtube really implemented "free superchat" WTF!?!

You can try it here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMCdl4XwasI

>>14242843
Any time after 24 JST seems like the normal for her now days.

>>14242843
It seems similar to other members

>>14242807
That was just a one time thing
It was a thing for popular face cam streamers to make a fake vtuber debut
...unironically it was a buff for all of them...the thing is it wasn't when they went for a bit longer than a one time thing.

Kuzuha was always compared to Holos and it will not change. You can't run.
He's top 10 at least so there's that going for him.

>>14242806
>new
Nah, it's lazy. I've seen the art for those in the first row plenty of times especially Yashiro, Kanae and Kuzuha, At least, Wixoss cards had some effort in it.

Honestly if cover announced something on the 10th they would lose my respect. That would be shitting on the en girls after they barely treat them with respect in the first place. It would take away from the girl outfits on 11th hype and would lead to lower numbers.

>>14242879
98% are all 2 views anyways lol

>>14242858
? Look. They aren't trying to scam anyone with the cards, it's a simple cost/benefit analysis, and showing an image like this lets fans know that the art isn't going to be particularly special for the batch of cards. At this point, it's up to the fans to decide if they're okay with picking these up, or if the rather plain art is too much of a turn-off. In other words, let the market decide.

>>14242782
why did you stream again Lui? now it's Mori that's kicking your ass

>>14242391
How is she an anomaly though? She works every god damn day, she attracts people with her personality, she's genuine compared to most of the others... And she's an anomaly?

>>14242901
i think demoncunny will beat orca

>>14242942
I can't though. Maybe it's regional. Can you send an akasupa with it?

>>14242942
its not free, its the members onetime sc i think

>>14242991
Lol you're just threatened that Niji's Gold won't be assured then.

>>14242991
Whatever is happening on the 10th will only affect Kiara and Ame since they are next to it.
Gura is at the end on a perfect time slot so she will be unbothered.

>>14242942
?
Do you use YT premium
This isn't something that shows up so I'm calling bullshit, but then again regional stuff or YT premium giving you something for 'free' isn't unheard of.

Why is orca's growth slowing so fast?

>>14242659
Ehhhh, simple waist up illustrations aren't that expensive, in the 1K range from a good but not top tier artist.

>>14242858
>The quality is shit
Our Niji friends are already used to it.

>>14243135
>Do you use YT premium
Nope

>>14243085
>its the members onetime sc i think
It's not, I'm ashamedly not a member.

>>14243151
theres a ceiling to what EOP pandering can get you without youtube algorithms thinking youre an infectious disease or part of youtube kids
the real suprise there is degozaru inclining

>>14242843
That's the nature of being a student. Have similar issues with Mumei even though she's a million times better

>>14243151
Didn't stream as much on the 2nd week compared to the 1st

>>14243041
it's easier to call things anomalies than to actually think about why they are the way they are. the "anomaly" is that both pekora and kuzuha are natural entertainers and very good at using the livestream format. in other words it's not an anomaly at all, they are just talented and excel at their job.

>>14240788
highly likely, but whoever that was, no way it was her dog, even the most generous corporation will only give you max one week off.

>>14242991
Why? Most EN fans care about only EN. Heck, most of global don't fucking care about JP at this point. People who care about Watson's and Kiara's outfits will be at work or asleep for the big announcement.

>>14242861
>first single anniversary
Who gives a fuck

>>14243323
Cover is generous. They are all about what a content creator can't do, not what they can't. Why are we gonna ignore that Hololivers often just take months off?

>>14242843
>>14242961
The proportion is a lot lower than the few streams from other holos I've looked at. Unless that's what anon meant by "awesome"...

>>14243151
This is the difference between debut buff and youtube algorithm buff
Gura didn't have explosive growth at the beginning, she had explosive growth for an entire year.
She just accelerated and never stopped. I remember people saying she was going to slow down in november, then december, then she got stuck at like 120k a month in january and accelerated again to 200k a month in march.
Now she's comfortably at 100k a month with like two weeks off in november and no proper schedule so far in december.

>>14243401
>Hololivers

>>14243323
I'm pretty sure she would have said it was a family member, people would give her far less shit in that case.

>>14243252
She had a weak debut but strong streams since so people that didn't sub then are doing it now.

>>14243368
See you on Reflect first year anniversary threads on how Cover didn't do anything to celebrate it.

>>14242991
It's an apology video for Pekora's delay along with an announcement for her quintuple outfit reveal stream date.

>>14243446
What weak debut? People loved her debut.

I wonder if her EOP pandering alongside a more EOP will work for Chloe in first SC stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aMJcqIu-EI

>>14242697
Unironically, Hololive stole most of the female Vtuber fanbase.

>>14243508
I wonder if her EOP pandering alongside a more EOP friendly 8 Am time zone will work for Chloe in first SC stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aMJcqIu-EI [Embed]

>>14243455
Bro, no one outside a handful of chumniggers would care. Why would Cover start respecting anniversaries of singles all of a sudden?
>>14243508
>all of them having their monetization celebrations on the same day
They're gonna be lucky to get $10k

>>14243401
>Hololivers often just take months off
yes, for senior talents, with a lot of streaming hours, not a newcomer. Even generosity has its limits. It's acceptable if it was only a week, but a month? doesnt make any sense

>>14243455
Cover didn't do shit for Kiara too. She put her money on it for those remixes.
Gura won't do the same or even care about the anniversary.

>>14243470
If only...

>>14242942
>>14243056
>>14243085
>>14243135
Just created a new channel, it seems it is some sort of reward for my initial channel for some metric I reach.

>>14243554
You can delete your post anon

>>14243631
You SC often?

>>14243470
>It's an apology video for Pekora's delay
It will be, followed by another delay.

>>14243631
Oh. Ha. Well, that makes sense. Thanks for the update.

>>14243659
Nope, NEVER in this account. I keep my SC accounts and my main account at separate browsers because I DREAD the idea of being personally identified.

I have many Google services contracted on that account tho, by virtue of it being my day job and for me being a "jobs creator" running the company out of that account.
Maybe Google took a shine of me because of that

>>14243323
The dog is part of her family anon

Pekora's new outfit better be engraved in gold with 20 different varations including an option for unbraided hair.

>>14243323
>>14243745
Not only that. Entertainment industry is a different world, NOBODY wants an entertainer bailing their eyes out while trying to be funny in front of a 2k, 3k, 10k audience
>except, of course, Rushia, but her whole stitch is to such their audience bank account dry weaponizing being sad the THE EXACT right moment

>>14243762
>including an option for unbraided hair.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

>>14243762
Her model better be so good it can give her viewers a handjob and a prostate massage.

>>14243811
She didnt though, recently. Her cat died and she just powered through it and only revealing the details on Twitter.
Could have broke down on stream for easy money, but she didnt.

>>14243435
I keep thinking about the organ when someone says just "Liver"

Were there any high-profile hiatus & return stream from nijis lately? I wonder which livers had the same large impact as Nene, Ayame or maybe Sana. Korone is getting one soon enough.

>>14242803
the argument was vtubing is a female thing therefore holostars fit the argument.

>>14244029
>Sana
>Large impact
roru

>>14244029
>Nene, Sana
Alright, let's not getting too carried, shall we?

>>14243927
>Could have broke down on stream for easy money, but she didnt.
She did, tho.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/ifCn47W9jSA

>>14244150
Oh, I thought she talked about it in Twitter first.

>>14244107
she can large impact me if you know what i mean

>In other news
This is amazing, my expectations for Sony were low but this is worse than copystriking clippers lmao.

>>14244277
What is this?

>>14244277
Regionlocking videos? Really?

>>14244313
Sony is regionlocking their vtuber's videos.

>>14244277
Whose bright idea is it to region lock streams

>>14244277
I hope the faggot who claimed that Sony would poach well known chubbas with money hanged himself.

>>14244340
Microsoft will acquire hololive before Snoy gets off their fat sjw ass

>>14244340
they still will and theres nothing you can do about it

>>14244387
>Phil Spencer and Botan collab
Imagine the numbers

>>14244396
They cant even invest in semi decent models for their current talents.
It's unfortunate that your stupitidy is terminal.

Wait a second, why is Chloe's monetization stream overlapping with Shion's 3D live?

>>14244277
HOLY FUCK! You can't make this shit up

Where do you live anyway, North Korea?

>>14244387
As an owner of microsoft stock I approve this line of though.

>>14244340
If Ludwig can still be poached from a multi-million job to stream on YT, then anything can happen. Sony is on par with Google.

>>14244471
No one has told her to move it. She's probably gonna move it to tomorrow rather than have a bad time slot.

What hapens if she doesn't move it?

>>14244542
Less SC

>>14244029
Honhima maybe? She got COVID and had to take a month off. She isn't that high-profile these days though, middle tier probably. You might need to wait for Mayuzumi's return in February.
https://playboard.co/en/video/gPJ_bBAmDEg

>>14244277
Wow I saw this in my subscriptions and was sad I couldn't watch it. I thought it was private, they region locked it?! I'm pissed.

>>14244509
>Sony is on par with Google.
lole

>>14244625
Who's the number one

>>14244509
I can sleep comfortably knowing that its two different scenarios and it will never happen.
If it does however, good riddance to the 'opportunist', and I will proceed to hang myself instead.

>>14244640
>Who's the number one
I'll assume Apple

>>14244640
apple

>>14244640
Probably Amazon or Apple.

>>14244509
This is just someone’s pet project that is already failing.
Wouldn’t be surprised if it got dissolved within a year.

>>14244340
Not after what they did with Luna.

Also if the rrat about one of the Sony poaching someone from HoloX is true then I can't imagine how she feels. YAGOO was worried about Sony.

>>14244509
and msft paid ninja/shroud $20,000,000 each to stream for their dead site.

>>14244277
kek the talents' future are bleaker than 2views

>>14244640
Apple with $2.808 trillion.
>>14244662
Amazon is 5th with $1.791 trillion.

>>14244678
Imagine how she feels right now looking at the debut of gen6.

>>14244277
but why

>>14244678
Turns out that they cant even compete with Crunchyhime. And they still have 50 more to come.

>>14244741
Okay knowing she is at the ground level of something that could get big and the all money Sony gave her upfront.
>>14244759
verse is a different project that the 50 thing. Maybe the 50 thing will work out better. I mean Sony might be able to poach someone like Suisei or Marine.

>>14244759
>they still have 50 more to come

>>14244471
She probably just check the holo schedule, saw it empty, and just makes a frame there
Iroha also scheduled hers on that exact slot but learned about the event so she removed it on the revised schedule and didn't create the frame

I have to say: I don't even watch the lad but this stream was rad as fuck

>>14244785
Come on anon. They failed to pay Kaguya Luna's basic wage.
Stop being delusional. You might as well wish for YouTube to shadow ban every Holoclipper channel tomorrow.

>>14243527
This.

>>14244785
Someone high profile leaving Hololive for Sony would generate anti's of almost unbelievable power, unless they had a clear reason

Is 915 right? Is this the secret?

>>14244785
Group like holo is somewhat more resistant to poaching, if only due to how they grow their audience, boxpushing etc

If they wanted to poach a Holo they would have done it already so it doesn't get buried in 49 other chubbas in the other project.
I'm convinced it's just a Nijikek wishing every form of possible misfortune to Hololive.

>>14244837
How else can you explain a HoloX candidate choosing Sony over Hololive unless there was huge cash upfront?
>>14244846
Holofans are teddy bears for the most part.
>>14244885
Money talks. The only thing preventing a jump is the brainwashing Cover uses on their talent and that jumping onto Sony is career suicide.

>>14244785
Poaching a Holo would be hard and expensive as fuck and Cover would not let them keep the character. Just look at Kson who lost most of her Hololive audience except her most loyal fans and she left on good terms.
There’s also the factor that Hololive fans would immediately turn on them.
Yagoo was probably more worried about his staff being poached.

>>14244875
To a point. If they start having long streams with only sc readings it will filter a lot of viewers. But it depends on how greedy they are, if they go the EN or Pekora route with limited SC reading then it wont be as big of an issue.

>>14244977
It's probably the same guy in previous thread who wished that the YouTube algorithm be reset to give everyone a fair chance kek.

>>14244875
Not really, SC readings are just glorified zatsudan, the ones who good at it will still produce entertainment when doing it
Many of clipped stuff are from SC reading

Chloe is streaming again. Probably frustrated about numbers. Bless her, truly one of us.
https://youtu.be/jtR_9KsWRSY

>>14244983
Because it didn't happen and it was a rrat, retard.
>b-but they have money
Have you seen their current talents' models? It would be ridiculous trying to poach a Holo considering they earn well to begin with and have moral bottom lines which raises the numbers even more
Why not just attempt to buy Cover at that point?

Looks like Chloe can't break 20k anymore looks like the debut buff is over. This gen does seem like the hololive version edengumi really good starts but flops as time goes on.

>>14245072
Give it another 15min
But yes outise lap and maybe chloe they all looking to drop below 10k

>>14245072
They just need to pace out their streams a week or so, or else they'll end up with watame's numbers.

>>14245072
It's 1am in the land of the rising sun, go back to sleep white man.

>>14245072
It's like 2am on a weekday anon

>>14245036
Maybe it's just me but her voice becomes quite annoying after hearing for a while.

>>14245072
Don't know if you are doing some premature trolling but this looks like a potential 20k+ stream based on the growth curve.

>>14245072
Should I remind you what time in japan it is right now ?

>>14245072
Congratulations, you've baited 6 other suckers into giving (you)s. Here's another one for your troubles.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>54,726: Mio (Hololive)
>38,429: Rushia (Hololive)
>33,347: Laplus (Hololive)
>28,799: Chloe (Hololive)
>25,378: Iroha (Hololive)
>25,360: Subaru (Hololive)
>24,904: Iroha (Hololive)
>24,858: Pekora (Hololive)
>22,902: Chloe (Hololive)
>22,660: Koyori (Hololive)
>22,456: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>19,826: Calli (Hololive)
>16,367: Patra (774 Inc.)
>15,493: Shion (Hololive)
>14,850: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,572: astel (Hololive)
>14,027: IRyS (Hololive)
>13,702: Iroha (Hololive)
>12,993: Ina (Hololive)
>12,885: Kanata (Hololive)
>12,846: Flare (Hololive)
>12,676: Nene (Hololive)
>12,584: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,469: Miko (Hololive)
>12,438: Mumei (Hololive)
>12,417: Lize (Nijisanji)
>11,676: Botan (Hololive)
>10,159: Lui (Hololive)

>>14245130
fag

>>14245144
As much as I think anon is premature in his comment, if she doesn't break 20k it will show a steady decline of either jp or eops willing to watch her in this time slot. Not panic mode bad but worse then previous days.

>>14245020
While true, SC reading also tanks viewer retention average the longer it goes on
hoping JP would adapt the separate stream for superchats and chatting

>>14245203
>another top 10 holo sweep
>kuzuha #11
oh no no no

>>14245203
>2 nijis

>>14244983
Agreed, Sony's entry strategy should be to throw money around and buy out as many talents as they can. But they're dumber than the average nihongo kaisha and probably too busy coming up with ways to sue themselves

>>14245053
For this thought exercise we are treating this rrat as true. I mean if I picked Sony over Hololive I'd be suicidal unless Sony gave me 7 figures.

>Have you seen their current talents' models?
3 of them are good.

>and have moral bottom lines
Do they? If they're pissed enough at Cover they could be convinced of anything. The only thing stopping them would be the 5-10~ holos trying to convince her not to leave since Cover has a fucking cult and gaslights their talent. You think that letting Sana have all the time in the world is bad practice? No, it's to enforce the atmosphere that being in Hololive is like a family and it is wrong to leave the family when the family always accepts you. Comfort and social conditioning pays off more in the long run.

>>14245203
GO ASTEL GO

>>14245209
Jesus Christ you're hungry for (You)s, aren't you? Here, another to fill up your tum.

>>14245238
22.4k not being enough for a top 10 is mental.

>>14245203
>astel
>hololive

>>14245203
Holo clean swiped top 10
Kuzuha tried his best, but 144 people just decided to watch pink Korone instead

>>14245203
Jesus Christ Miko, I thought the overlap pokemon stream was an exception.

>>14245203
>11th 22,456: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>Not even top 10
Oh nyo

>>14245203
Hololive 24
Nijisanji 4 (Astel and Patra are honorary Nijis)

A sweep of only the top 10 instead of the top 14 shows a recline. 54k is a very low gold and 33k is a low bronze.

>>14245306
>Korone
Koyori anon, Koyori

>>14245203
>14,572: astel
tik tok tik tok silver boy

>>14245203
It’s really unfair that VShojo are not included here. People in this thread underestimate them because of this. They think they are midgets but they are inclining.

>>14245352
>Astel
>honorary Nijis
WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT, should I call the "TRADE ALERT" guy to make this official?

Toko, Lize and Hoshikawa surely would offset giving Astel away

>>14244875
no lmao. Nenechis sc readings are a blast to watch. just got to know how to make it fun

>>14245356
I agree that calling her Korone is rude to Korone, let's settle for pink catdog.

>>14245382
>they are inclining

>>14245248
>7 figures
Yeah right. Let me cut off all my connections I had, lose all my fanbase and stream to 2 viewers for 7 figures. A high tier Holo probably earns 7 figures FFS.
>Do they
Yes, and no one is pissed enough at Cover to do such a thing yet. I'll always love Ayame because she's the very proof that Cover allows the talent to do whatever the fuck they want.
>enforce
All rrat teritory. Might wanna just use the remaining 2 genie wishes on resetting the YT algorithm, buddy.
I don't care. I hope it works just to spite you.

>>14245382
What are VShojo yesterday peaks? You can always follow this post up with their numbers

I make the daily ranking from live-ranking, plus fix it from mado and Holostats when live.ranking fails.
If you either provide one (1) single site tracking VShojo (that both I can scrape and any other anon can verify in a single link) I can add to the daily top
Other than that I won't because it would end up being a time sink

>>14245203
Even HoloEN has more entries in the list this is kinda sad...

>>14245203
Patra carrying her branch.

>>14245203
>Failed to get into top 10
King.....

When will numberrot heal? Do we need a vaxx?

>>14245421
If you don't think there is social conditioning being used by Cover then you are naïve. Why would Coco and Kanata go out of their way to make Haato stay in Hololive? Why did 90% of hololive beg Coco to stay? They pick talent they can manipulate and gaslight into their cult. It's really telling how there have been no graduations after Coco's, which should have imploded the company.

>>14245570
We need a purge. But it will happen naturally as things calm down come February.

Yeah this chloe stream shows the diffreance bewteen hololive en and jp. Hololive en can keep similar number no matter the time they stream due to having an world wide fanbase. But Hololive jp numbers get kneecap hard due to most of their fans being in japan if they stream at a weird time.