/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>muh dead cat bounce
Is this the newest cope?

>"best singer in Hololive"
>can't even reach 2k CCV
Do Chumpedos and Holofaggots really?

>>14208930
I've seen dead cat being mentioned months ago so it's not new.

>>14208930
Let them cope.
Atleast Holos experience a big boost of numbers. Nijifags on the other hand won't experience it.

>>14209140
the event started today
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000568.000030268.html
>開催期間:2021年12月7日(火)~ ※なくなり次第終了

>>14209140
In related news, Holo x Lawson and Lamy water are trending. Again.

>>14209140
>all sold out except for miko

>>14209298
>※なくなり次第終了
Guess it'll end today too.

>>14209140
Migo got 2 slot. Sasuga baby.

>>14209428
KEK

>>14209140
Post the bargin bin niji merch now.

>>14209140
>>14209298
Reminds me of the red bull promo where they sold out 2 months of promotional product in an hour.

>>14208366
question for numberfags, do you get an orgasm every time you see big numbers?

>>14209615
Wasn't there a pic of bargain bin Holo products? I remember seeing a pic of multiple packs of Luna Hi-C that were unsold

>>14209140
wonderful

>>14209787
I get a raging hard on whenever I see a popular chuuba get small numbers, because I get to shit on them

Mio may win the gold today but 40k range is not safe anymore.

>>14209787
I love it when Nijifags are bragging about a single gold but then gets beaten at the end of the day.

Another perfume run.
Watame/Lamy/Miko(?)/Aki/Towa

>>14209991
HoloX Meeting may win if it will be on only 1 channel. (Preferably Chloe or Laplus ch)

NIJIBROS POST MERCH AND SPONSOR AAAAAAAAAAA HOLO. CAN'T KEEP WINNING LIKE THIS!!!!

>>14209180
Not as much as I've seen in mentioned the past day.
>>14209218
What would their graph even be called? The dead fish flop?

>>14210147
fucking Nene and Lamy again

>>14209787
>orgasm?
Nah every day in this hellhole, our brain rots from the numbers. We can't differentiate what's good or what's bad anymore. Large numbers > small numbers.

>>14208930
>hololive will recline!
anytime now

>>14210401
that' Watame, Lamy, Miko, Aki and Towa

what the fuck are these numbers

>>14210594
>Hololive will recline
It already has lmao
Gura couldn't even get 2k CCV for her karaoke stream

>>14210688
Midgets.

>>14210594
I bet slow and steady anon is just betting that he'll be right after 2 years. Too bad the odds are stacked as fuck against him

>>14205574
>Cover banned their talents from 4chan..
Why? Antis and criticisms are part of the biz and 4ch antis are tame compared to 5ch. For all you know, Council hate threads are all omegatranny bots because he can’t tell the girls to stop being lazy cunts directly.

>>14210594
Ah yes, year 2020 classic.

Finana.....

>>14211048
4chan isn't that popular anon.......

>>14209787
I got the biggest orgasm the day silverboi slip and got mogged by meru

>>14211136
Rosemi ate her audience when she started

>>14209298
Judging by the article they barely made anything. No shit it sells out by 11 A.M. The campaign ends on the 12th so they low balled it a bit.

Also mentions the goods will be sold in Chinese stores tomorrow. Misprint?

>>14211189
Influence and popularity isn’t directly proportional. But the comment was in relation to Kronii getting depressed because she lurks here.

>>14209080
Mogged by the gweat Wosemi-sama

>>14210688
Pretty good number for woesemi and leimu

>>14211048
>Council hate threads are all omegatranny bots because he can’t tell the girls to stop being lazy cunts directly.
Wow that is some other level rrat

>>14211048
But risu and moona are here tho

Isn't he supposed to be a top niji?

>>14211705
rip median

>>14210147
Details on the same day the holochristmas stuff gets revealed.

>>14211705
>valorant
There doesn't seem to be many bigger debuff games than valorant

>>14211705
kek, this is Luna tier

>>14211372
Rosemi's audience is 90% female

>>14211410
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chūgoku_region
Geography reps

>>14211705
Same deal as Kuzuha yesterday; it's 11am in Japan right now. and he usually never streams during this time. He's the only NijiJP streaming besides Miyako.

>>14211136
>apex in spanish
at elast she is 1k this time

Elira and finana are with shit shill game so is no surprise
Rose cooking stream seems like the happen so often they are starting to wear off in numbers

Also what is mumei doing? girl is gonna get those 10k at this rate

>>14212412
They dont even paid to shill the game. Just play it for free

>>14212412
basic zatsu. This shit is close to gura tier

These numbers is making me sick.

Please I want to see those sweet 30k+ again.

>>14212412
>Elira and finana are with shit shill game so is no surprise
It isn't sponsored, they're doing it for free.

>Also what is mumei doing?
Being mentally ill.

>>14212575
>>14212617
>not sponsored
oh

>>14212412
Elira and Finana aren't sponsored

>>14212575
They're playing it because it has hot boys

Mumei 10k get. The owl bring dignity back to holo en.

Mumei 10k with a guerilla zatsu.

Mumei is having the "Toya effect" with this stream. Scheduling streams with their exact content is actually a debuff. When will Pekora catch on to this?

Mumei 10k get. Keeping up the median.

>>14212767
i think is just EN has shit games to stream or rather the west has some terrible taste on what they want to watch.

>>14211136
>Cant even beat the kroniibae watchalong stream

I never understand how dumb Japanese scalpers are.

https://jp.mercari.com/item/m36834654230

What the fuck are they selling all 6 for less than 1500 yen including shipping?

>>14212670
>>14212695
Why the fuck would you ever play this game when you're not sponsored

>>14212886
what? wtf is this?

>enfags celebrating 10k
is this how low the standards en fell?

>>14212848
>i think is just EN has shit games to stream
Yes
>the west has some terrible taste on what they want to watch.
Also yes

>>14212848
Lonely men just want to hang out with anime girl.

>>14212758
less than an hour before it was announced too. Pretty sure ambigous titles like that play a big role in attracting viewers due to the mystery. Take this Gura stream for instance. It was a DMC stream disguised by a zatsudan early on, which you could probably guess looking at the graph

>>14212934
Because they like it? They're interested?

It is Not Sponsored. Accept Reality.

>>14212956
It's kinda sad.
>>14212933
Maybe the demand for those goods isn't high. There is too much Hololive merch now, the market is drying up.

>>14212767
>>14212997
Zatsus do better than most games they play it seems.

schizo pitying high numbers kek

>>14212934
i supposed thy like it
nothing can be done about it.
>>14212976
would explain NjiEn getting more into GFE erritory

>>14212956
better than celebrating 3k.

>>14212934
Because they really love cute boys and the game is filled with cute boys. That is why.

>>14213110
It sold between the time it took me to copy the URL and paste it and type the captcha, less than a minute after it was posted. They're just fucking stupid. Believe me, I rigorously follow Mercari and Yahoo Auctions Japan for store exclusive shit like this.

>>14212934
Playing games is more fun than numbers

>>14213224
Mobas are the worst for trying to interact with chat, they're more concentrated on the game and each other.

>>14213213
It's not about that. If she scheduled the stream several days before as just "FREE CHAT" she wouldn't even get half of the viewers she's getting right now. Schedules are a debuff.

>>14212933
I've seen nips mocking and sething at resellers all over twitter just now kek. Their pricing are going to far

>>14213351
i mean in general.
Based specially on their memeber and many of teir unique stream. Not about this one specially

>>14213224
I wonder how much the male wave would kill the girls' GFE

>>14213467
NTR is part of their GFE

Cam' on ENs entertain tha fackin masses

>>14213467
Oh boy.....There a reason jp holos don't interact with males......the rat got fucked by ollie collabing with roberu. Pairing with male hurt your supas.

>>14213645
I mean shipping fans are dangerous.

>>14213626
you're asking too much. Anyways we'll see how big EN is (Holoen side atleast) when Mori does her Walfie 3D concert

>>14212605
what the hell. is vspo actually a big name? tachibana has a low tier holo's ccv

>>14213626
Pekora alone mogs all of the ones in the right.
Such massive difference lmao

>>14213626
manjisanji top male liver got beat by a cute en owl lol.

>>14213859
That's kinda unfair anon-chama... Pekora is the most popular Vtuber...

Who lost today that will probably will start another JP-EN timeloop?

>>14213962
nah, that's kizuna ai

>>14213977
who else? every nijikek member

>>14213626
I agree with you but you are using the final tally of the day whit all the peaks no a random moment of the jp prime time.
Regardless of all this jp still wins.

>>14213977
They didn't get a single gold in 15 days, Kuzuha lost to fucking Moona yesterday and Kanae is currently at 5K.

Better ramp that EN CCV cull up to 500% if you want to stand a chance.

Ludwig just ran a poll with 38k viewers and 35k participated in the poll in about 4-5 min. Don't really care but ENfags like bringing up polls for some reason so I thought it might be relevant.

>>14212954
So, during the shill stream a korean restream popped up. I was curious what Eternal Return's numbers on Twitch were like, and lo-and-behold....
It was hilarious. They were roasting the pair at how big of a pair of noobs they were from what comments I copypasted into google translate indicated.
>>14212934
Cute guys > big numbers, pls understand.

>>14213798
yeah I don't know who's the 3rd vtuber company but my best bet is it's VSPO. 774 seem to fell off

lui...

>>14213626
Pomu's stream is so weird. I've never seen a marshmallow reading stream where there was a paygate to read the next one.

>>14214806
is literally a subathon
>suscribe andstream keeps going
is just SC baiting. Twitcast does soemting similat also.

Is the morning ccv capped at 15k or something?

why is the schedule for today so empty?

>>14214806
Gotta milk SC anon, it's basically their only suorce of income.

>>14214806
>Isreal
Uh....
....
I know that that's probably good for SC, but that's also reeks of desperation. Absolutely stinks of it. Guess she might as well maximize her revenue if she's not going to get big viewership + vod numbers...

>>14214932
And people shit on Ayame when she barely asked for SC donations. Her fans just gave it to her via their own obligation

>>14214806
why not shill memebrship instead?

>>14214806
>>14214870
>>14214932
>>14214963
The 25 dollar donations is referring to the things she's catching up on.

>>14214396
he's US-based and so are his viewers.
the ccv culling most anons refer to, happens because their accounts are based on Japan. Say what you like but those images of Reine's polls and others tell a more complicated story.

>>14215129
what a weird tittle

>>14214793
I'm actually surprised Debut Buff lasted for more than week.

>>14215129
Okay, that's much more reasonable. I'm too busy Listening to Gura while I sit in fucking 4k+ queue for FFXIV rn. Thanks for the info.

>>14214793
shut up lui nee!

>>14202867
I think Koyori could have enough personality to keep up. she's fun in zatsus.

>>14215140
I mean, it's possible he's getting culled as well, that's a pretty good chunk of engagement, near 100% in 5 minutes? Smells fishy. We know it wasn't just vtubers who got smacked by the December update.
There are no doubt and assortment of if/then flags for the culls so it makes it really hard to nail down any single factor, just a general idea that these probably each play some factor - Adblock, Tabout/multi-tab/regional settings.
I absolutely despise YT sometimes.

>>14215265
>>14215364
Pomu is home of the Ninisani after all

Play a wat out but no kronii pov.....

Ok so seems last thread someone was suggesting the other Holos were streaming more to keep their ground against HoloX. I would its possible but also propose an alternative to that and say that they are trying to ride on the tourists that HoloX brought in to the fandom,

What’s the next big event?

>>14215473
i-itai..
>she's suddenly 4k now
where do these viewers suddenly come from outside the waiting room?

>>14215694
way*

>>14215751
>How does YT work?
Anon...I....

>>14211048
lmao the rrat of rrats. Omega would probably an hero after reading how much we shit on it here.

More numbers related, I wonder if they're to relegate Lui to morning duties since she's probably going to be less of a draw compared to orca and wagahai

>>14215694
That's normal anon. If anything, split POV is weird when the game itself allows you to display both POVs at once.

>>14215694
They alternate channels.

GO REIMU GOOOO

>>14215751
If this is a serious question, it's because their phone pops up a notification that the stream went live.

>>14215962
>once people see her ballad karaoke, without a certain pekora and subaru combined 50k+ stream at the background, lui mama will incline!

>>14216069
Everyone's ending, she has to go up.

>>14216069
NijiEN is inclining right....?

>>14208366

>lui lost to EN
All is right again

>lost to retard and doomer
debut buff over

numbers?

what was Lui ccv last time on this timeslot?

>>14216453
Is a vod so not really up for talking
but 300k by the end of the week.

>>14209412

miko has two slots in the pic retard

>>14216462
Around 15k, both on Saturday and Friday.

>>14216453
Will kson join nux's new company?

So jp6 will retreat to the evening slot after the debut buff wear off right? There's no way they can sustain their morning streams in the long run unless if they want to exhaust their audience.

>>14216453
i didn't keep up with the drama, so is Nux based or a faggot?

>>14216453
People will now turn on kson, this will be interesting

>>14216644
He's a retard, but a correct one.

>>14216644
He’s always been a faggot anituber, regardless of what he does

>full holoX collab
>gartic phone
>Koyori ch....
damn it it could potentially beat Mio totsu if its on ymd or chloe

>>14216453
Numbers prediction for a pre-recorded skit? Anon, why?

The CCV cull for ENs and JPs is the same. Every holoEN's CCV is in line with their video views besides Gura. Gura is the only anomaly because her videos get heavily shilled by the algorithm.

>>14216644
He is always a faggot, but this time he was correct, or at least vshoujo was more wrong.

>>14216644
Faggot, but so is vshojo management. Both sides were retarded in that drama, but neither side seems to have lost anything. Vshojo numbers are the same as before and Nux got free content for his drama channel.

Irys 10k get. En honor restored.

Kroniirys got 10k

>>14216832
This doesn't account for stream length tho

What did ina get today?

3 (10k+) for en tonight not bad.

>>14216636
10k is still good.

>dumb owl dipping
>lui at 9k
>hope+doom 10.7k

>>14217064
>>14217087
>>14217223
happy for u ENbros

I wonder if jp is doing so well because of the lockdown

>>14216644
he's a faggot even without the drama

>>14217358
hey is some rough times in the En side.

>>14217136
And if you took a quick look at Okayu and Mumei's videos you'd realize it's pretty much the same for both taking length and CCV into account. I'm not gonna bother spoonfeeding you on that.

Is there any company that loves working with Nijisanji?

it looks to be a race between lui and irys, with around 1.5k advantage to irys

>>14207619
agreed, humanity and the world in general should pack it up already and start over.

>>14217475
Youtube

The Kson and Nux collab will be the fastest vtuber video to hit a million views

>>14217475
774 and noripro love to leech from them

>>14217518
>Council Dazzling Star and EN last HOPE
>humble ex-OL auntie trying to have lunch

>>14213626
>5h TMSK
Gyarichama, pika, ryu, miu... okite kudasai

I don't think my heart can take it when the time Chloe hit her first sub-10k stream.
She won't fall that low right? I don't want my orca to be such a failure

i think only koyori and lui ever got there

>Sold out in 40 mins
M-merchbros....

>>14217699
Below 10k is not failure anon. 5k however….

>>14217777
Companies, please take note.....
Hololive is far, far, FAR more popular than whatever low-ball estimates Cover is throwing at you.

>>14217777
AGAIN, NIJIBROS PLS POST MERCH!! HOLOS KEPT GETTING SOLD OUT IN HOURS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>14217601
Did Voms incline with gen 2? Those numbers look really low.

>>14217834
>>14217858
>holocels bragging about being taken advantage of by scalpers: >>14212933

>>14217340
She’s reading SCs and she stopped doing it with autotune before then.

>>14217858
There's like, one actual nijibro, maybe 2, and the rest are shitposters/falseflaggers. You're asking in the wrong place mang.

>>14217930
Because there's a massive demand.
No one scalps Nijimerch because no one wants Nijimerch.

Do you guys really despise HoloEN numbers? Or shitposter just use it as bait because of the narrative "There are far more EOP's than JOP's, yet they are losing to them"

>>14218120
Damn poor Lui, please atleast reach 10k

>>14218161
kek true

>>14217777
Did sisters just lost their last cope? Or do they still have twitter

>>14217475
Company as in agency or corporate corpo?

>>14218177
It’s just bait, nobody here actually watches jps cause no one here speaks jap

>>14218177
no, NijiEN number on other hand, utterly disgusting absolute garbage

>>14217930
doesnt care, faggot. Sold out is Sold out. Companies dont care who bought their product, that's why Sony/Nvidia/AMD never care to solve scalper problem, because at the end of the day, they still get the money

>>14218203
'snot happening
>meanwhile in Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde's stream

>>14217475
Konami

>>14218120
Turn on your smart fridges now /vt/ bros

>>14218250
>getting discounted because its nearing expired date
roru

>>14218250
50 cents for a bag of cookies, that's a steal.

>>14218177
Some of them are genuine disappointment, some others are shitposts to misdirect from the current number mogging

>>14217475
Konami and Takara Tomy

at this rate Lui is gonna get kicked out of the numbergen
>>14218250
>>14218357
jesus nijifriends are gonna chimp out

>>14216871
>drama
That's literally how EN livestreaming industry usually works...

>>14218250
Ouch.. this is sad.
>imagine roommate going to lawson and buy all the merchs for themselves at bargain price

>>14218177
just some nijikek trying to divide the fanbase, cant accept their idol has failed, dont believe me? just check the archive when niji win the day, not a single Holo vs Holo post

>>14218120
>show some tits Lui-nee! Get that 10k!

>>14218526
Imagine being a niji

>>14218250
If a Matsuri-only merch will be released. You guys think it'll suffer the same fate?

>>14218291
(you) for the joke.

>>14218177
I'm a tad disappointed in the numbers, but part of that is definitely the JP branch's massive numbers as of late causing numberrot.

>>14216636
no, this is probably the long term plan to build up their core audience.

>>14218643
Nope. She still has gachis.
Also the bloke Lyg*r will probably buy all of it for himself if he needs to.

>>14218643
Matsuri's also sold out tooq. She was among the lawson collab this time

How do we save Gura numberbros...

>>14218526
>>14218357
>>14218250
You guys shit on Nijis but as if you can do better. Try the auditions and see if you'll even be accepted

>>14218729
We don't. She's shit.

>>14214584
774 has Patra, who comes up in this thread regularly with 17k ASMR. Haneru can also climb up with her collab streams. Sadly no new breakout stars. I think VSPO has a bit more 3-5k chuubas than 774 but none on the level of Patra. Most are sub 2k

>>14218729
Fire her rigger

>>14218729
imagine paying someone you hate lmao

>>14218729
Isn't it a mengen?

>>14218758
>the chef sucks at cooking
>customer shits on chef
>w-why not you be a chef and see if you can do better?

>>14218758
nijisister...

>>14218758
>Nah.. i have high standard anon

>>14218618
LUNCH SLURPING ON RAMEN ASMR STREAM

>>14218729
>8k memebers
prety good. probably still holds her 12-15k

>>14218758
Sports commentators shouldn't talk, they can't even hope to reach the skill level of the players. Is that how it goes?

>>14218758
>hey intern let them know we have openings. we have 51 spots to fill

>>14218809
Yes.
Unscheduled, Guerilla singing stream.

>>14218643
yes, her young donut didnt sell that much.

Why is the merch game for JP so mich stronger than EN?

JP merch sells out all the time while EN merch is some of the worst selling stuff I've ever seen. Not to mention EN side chooses a lot of shitty suppliers so their websites break down all the fucking time.

I'm not sure if anyone can handle their fails anymore.

>>14218942
So with that context, is that number decent or not

>>14210147
>Towa
Smoker scent... I will buy.

>>14218981
Now this one is creative. Good job schizo-dono

>>14218874
Her sub numbee is literally lower than both Pekora and Miko now. Is there anything she can hold onto aside from sub bots?

>>14218250
To be fair the may have made too much. People always make extremely little hololive merch. Unless we know how much of both was made it isn't a fair comparison. Also the Holo products taste a hell of a lot better.

>>14219064
Is it?

>>14219004
N/A. I wouldn't render judgement on if it's good or bad. Her Drawing and chatting stream that still has its archive has 12k vod views for comparison though.
If you literally weren't online when the notification went out you were absolutely going to miss this members stream.

>>14210688
Holo buff active means debuff on Nijisanji. Once it settles, tourists will realize who is better and watch the real entertainment, not the hype.

>>14219004
Depends on how many members she has in total.

>>14218758
kek this is a new one

>>14210147
>aki perfume
my s*x d*ll is almost complete

>>14218729
>2k viewers, 8.2k views
>Rosemi had 2k viewers but ended up with 11k views
Did Gura only stream for like an hour?

>>14218981
Source: My ass

>>14219004
Pretty good for a stream she pulled out of her ass and didn't even notify anywhere
>>14219133
It was members only so there's less viewer churn

>>14219133
You're a dumbfuck is what it is. that 2k was taken literally as the stream started. The 'bug' displayed 3.5k peak about 30 min before the stream ended. Like those screenshots taken right as a stream starts, you fell for one of the classic shitposts. ALWAYS verify what time those screenshots are taken.

>Sakamata.. avenge me...

>>14219171
*Note this is over the entire year, and there are obviously going to be lapsed members and this only catches those that member during streams.

>>14219104
Yes, as proven by this graph right here.
Look at that incline! If you give them 10 years or so they'll definitely recognize where the better entertainment is at!

>>14219104
So they will stick to holo then?

>>14219171
Huh, Chammers' is higher than it appears to be, I guess the greynames in her chat are just more vocal than other chats

>>14219104
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>14218250
Oh no... they didn't sell a couple of packs of cookies. Niji is finished... wish I had the Luna merch pic that wasn't even food saved with me.

>>14218981
>Mich stronger
LMAO

>Beaten by council already with debut buff
What went wrong?

>>14219382
It's onions sauce flavored rice crakers vs chocolate. It's obvious what will sell better.

>>14218513
And you now know why people though Holo EN was a mistake

>>14219291
The spike after drop is called dead cat bounce. Then it will fall down again so I will still be right.

>>14219090
Latest peko memebr video has 4.8k views
the one from septemeber and kingsglaive watchalong have 12k and 11k respectively.
Gura does a lot of unarchived but her latets doodle stream last month does also have 11k

Marine beats all of them with 13k on a stream of 4 moonths ago and the likes on her memebership posts are also in the 4k range.
So im guessing she might be 18k to 20k members.

>>14219566
>debut buff wears off
>temporary inflated numbers returns to normal
No fucking shit, Sherlock

>>14219453
>ENschizo is an ESL
Why am I not surprised?

Esl-chama.....why are you still trying

>>14219537
Could be attributed to less clickbait title. There are analyses on thumbnail/titles having a huge impact on if people actually open streams/vids. Lui was clear with it, whereas mumei has the more interesting title.

>>14219604
Korone had 12k+ on her ASMR members vid before her soft graduation.

>>14219612
Stop trying to argue with catanon, it will go nowhere

>>14219673
>Went to dentist
>Clickbait title
>Only JPs can do that!
Nice cope

>>14219694
>soft graduation
damare

>>14219694
>asmr

>>14219537
EN > JP

>>14219750
No faggot, it's actually better clickbait. JPs can utilize such titles as well. It's more interesting than "lets eat food" to people. Mumei's fans see that and more will want to open it live, versus Lui who some might see it later on.

>>14219604
Uhhh

>We now have people deadass falling for Member's only stream baits
/#/ bros ...

>>14219291
>1st holo buff arc: October - November 2020 (late fall-winter)
>2nd holo buff arc: May - July 2021 (spring?)
>3rd holo buff arc: November 2021 - December 2021 (late-winter)

>niji buff: July-August, December-January (summer, winter)

like niji, they are strong during holidays.

>>14219291
>nijisanji the lowest they've been since July 2019
>nijisanji females dropping to holo 2019 numbers
Also why do people attribute the dodgeball thing as the downfall of Nijisanji when Hololive was already doubling Nijisanji's median at that point?

its alright, Lui will incline after the karaoke stream...

>>14219845
>>14219774
im not going back beyond 2 monhs unless conent is that sparce like the case of peko.
But yeah these are just floors not exact numbers.
Just showing gura does have a lot of members still.

>>14219847
just like hololive, we also are experiencing newfag tourists buff.

>>14219604
>Latest peko memebr video has 4.8k views
not really worth mentioning since it's just a recording of the twitter space which most members caught live anyway. Also the recording is worse quality than what fans were posting around themselves.

You're picking and choosing what streams to give numbers for as well for some reason.

>>14219943
>>14219235
ch-chloe will avenge you Lui nee! i'll put these EN whore to their place! below JPs!!!

>>14219942
Probably just a tipping point if you want to believe in it. From what was said before, the Niji females were already streaming less due to being busy with events (like Aqua is now) and Holos were grinding their ass off at the same time.

>>14219942
Because rrats, and it's a sensational story even if it didn't significantly contribute to issues it certainly indicated some of the flaws of Nijisanji's approach even then.

>>14219943
Lui-ane is nice and hard working. Karaoke is more interesting than having lunch so she definitely will redeem herself.

>>14219993
i would also add to this that JP Membership content is fucking worthless.
Comapred to EN like most of the time peole only get a wallpaper or a watchalong.
Are memeber only streams seen in bad light on japan?

>>14219943
>lunch time talk
all she needs to do is cook and show off her lunch while rating other people's food or answer people's questions.

If just solely looking at thumbnails and titles, i will click mumei's stream to check out what she is up to.

>>14216832
Anon, their peak viewers have about a 20% difference while avg video views and avg viewers are only about 2-5% apart.

>>14220067
Look up the algorithm and thumbnail/title analyses videos on youtube that can explain it in more detail. It really has an impact and I tend to keep that in mind when examining trends in streamers or their channels. Just having more people click your stream also means you are recommended more to them on their feeds. So making an interesting thumbnail with a title matters a lot. I wonder though how aware of this the girls themselves are, or only if management keeps track of this.

>>14220175
Reminds me of a video LTT did a long time ago where he experimenting with thumbnails and those retarded shocked expressions brought in such a significant increase in viewership that it was dumb not to do it business-wise. Same thing with click bait titles.

>>14220294
Yeah I hate that shit but hard to blame creators when it works so well.

anons please don't resort to high level knowledge to cope. this is embarrassing

https://twitter.com/KizunaAIinc/status/1468067758675947521

Kek

Just ask sodafunk if you want to make a click bait thumbnail

Koyori monetization stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF6msQLzthg
I guess every JP6 member is monetized already. SC predictions?

>enter /#/
>mad rambling about something
>no number

>>14220621
so literally every number thread.

>>14220600
La+ - $26k
Lui - $11k
Koyori - $15k
Chloe - $34k
Iroha - $12k

It will underwhelm. Holox's luster is waning.

>>14220648
Better than basedjaks.

>>14220600
i wonder if Lamy / Nene / Rushia will notice some names SCing the new girl

Why is noone talking about the biggest news of the day?
My future wife, Choco is streaming to more than 5K people.
Show some respect.

>>14220730
Anyone have Edengumi's monetization stream SC numbers?

>>14220600
Laplus = $25k
Chloe = $35k
Koyori = $12k
Iroha = $9k
Lui = $6k

*can go higher if they do it on a decent timeslot with NO Overlaps

>>14220294
That's pretty much why the top channels on Youtube use those stupid shocked expressions on their videos. Look at Mr. Beast and you see his face is that same expression each time. So I wonder what kinda expressions are better for vtubers. It seems from quick glances at views on their uploads, lewd art can spike views for example.

>>14220052
Pekora herself mentioned that she doesn't want to paywall a lot of content and said to member if you want to support her, her membership streams are generally low-tension zatsudans or some watchalongs

Barely ever does member content anyways

>>14220874
Massive.

Lain: $30k
Axia: $16k
Leos: $54k
Oliver: $17k
Lauren: $60k

HoloX can't beat this.

>>14220971
I wonder if that plus the fact that she allows chat to non subscribers help her maintain good ccv.

>>14221084
>Leos: $54k
>Lauren: $60k
Impressive. How long did those streams last?

>>14220600
>huh you're getting monetization?
>*streams
>nothing personal

>>14221084
Wouldn't be surprised if they don't, but if they do I'll grudgepost the shit out of it.
Chloe, I BELEEB

>>14221084
Wow. Hopefully the Otaku following of Laplus superchats her into oblivion. I will help too so we can beat you cocky anon

>>14220867
Will SOVL help Choco incline?

choco... my fucking ears...

>>14221084
>Lauren: $60k
That's higher than Kronii the record holder

>>14221084
For Council was:
Kronii = $45k
Mumei = $20.8k
Sana = $19.4k
Baelz = $14.8k
Fauna = $6.9k

I Predict that HoloX will have"
Chloe: $40k
Laplus: $28k
Koyori: $16k
Iroha: $12k
Lui: $8k

Females especially yumejos/fujoshis are very scary when they open their wallet.

.t someone who regularly interact with that part of the fandoms.

>>14221084
What went wrong?

>>14220600
>SC predictions?
all of them will be between 21k-32k

lui will get $100k during her karaoke stream

>>14221415
>Fauna = $6.9k
If this is from Playboard, then I'm pretty sure I saw people mentioning they miscounted by 10k compared to Hololyzer

Chloe: $40k
Laplus: $50k
Koyori: $15k
Iroha: $15k
Lui: $10k

>>14220894
Laplus = 100k
Chloe = 200k
Koyori = 20k
Iroha = 15k
Lui = 15k

>sakamata chloe? who

>>14221423
What went wrong?

>>14222040
I believe he's talking about their current performance compared to their peak

>https://youtu.be/UqT0UR10aDw?t=10
>Apparently, we need to make content
>We're fucked

>Meanwhile in Hololive...
Damn, restrictions really makes you stronger

>>14222425
the only e-celeb numbers is the two time. in fact, let's talk about about me, let's talk about the 6'8 frame the 37 in verticle leap...the black steel that drapes down my back aka the bullet proof mullet, the google prototype scopes with built in LCD LED 1080p 3D sony technology. The Ethiopian poisonous catapillar aka SLICK DADDY. lets talk about the cabinets right behind me that go 40ft deep that house the other 95% of my trophies, the awards, the certificates, all claiming first place, right? Let me give you a little inside glimpse into the hotshot, video game life style of the two time of the international video game superstar. because thats what the channels about, thats what this domain is about, that is what society is about. you are looking at the new face of twitch and GODDAMN is youtube lucky

>>14221084
I doubt they will get close to them at all
Nijisanji is stronger on their big occasion SCs in general
Also, it took way too long for them to enable the monetization to be honest
The hype is cooling down already

>>14220020
>I WILL arrange collab and get the gold for us!

>>14220600
Since everyone else is massively lowballing
>Laplus - $45k
>Lui - $28k
>Koyori - $30k
>Chloe - $60k
>Iroha - $20k

Is there an graph showing the absolute collapse of Edengumi's viewership?

>>14222425
Funny how ludwig and valkyrae is going to get affected a lot on this while timtat and drdisrespect is at least okay since they can just play games. Hololive had been through this period for at least a year already playing on YT's terms.

>>14222425
Oh great, he's going to leech off Jerma again

>>14220520
Why cant Kizuna catch a break from rrats bros?

>>14222351
dunno about the apex twins but only Leos and Oliver are talented. Lain is... I really wonder if she was the best that Nijisanji could get. Surely there were way better talents out there.

>>14222557
Thank you founder! Well show these EN bitches number

>>14221362
>IT'S CALLED SOVL YOU SOCIOPATH!

>>14222662
Maybe because she decided to join that nft bullshit?

>>14218729
>>14219105
No even if you were online you could still miss it. I checked twitter to see if she was going to stream there was nothing, checked youtube I only saw Ina streaming and no member notification.
I learned about the karaoke from checking hlgg at Gura's regular timeslot to see if anything happened.
That pic is what youtube sent notifications for on both desktop and mobile.

>>14222662
She's the Oyabun. The first vtuber. Naturally her rrats must be on par.

>>14222763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw55ZMw8Qu0&t=2867s

>>14222425
Dr. Disrespect said the same shit when he was ranting about how Twitch is easy as fuck since you don't need to make content iirc.

>>14222791
It's not even out yet ffs
>>14222824
True. Queen's rrat must be as powerfull as the majesty herself.

>>14222808
Yt pls...

>>14222942
>Stop lurking here Lui-nee!

>>14222808
Susan nerfed Myth so they cant overshadowed YT's paid streamer kek

>>14223099

>>14222583

>>14223236
no daily version?

I won't be surprised if the reason why YouTube's streaming features are taking so long is because they're trying to figure out how to segregate vtubers from getting the live trending tab.

>>14223335
Why? Why can't Youtube accept Hololive dominance?

>>14223236
Damn, they have low tier Holo numbers.

>>14223236
Shape wise, I think it will be like this for HoloX too
Because they only have debut+振り返り on november
>Iroha's will be 170k because she only has her debut kek
But the numbers will be higher

>>14223236
Does anyone have one for council?

>>14223399
Why would they, it's bad optics for a platform that's trying to look like a corporate television. It's no surprise they'll bump a live CNN stream more than a Pekora stream

>>14217777
Its just scaplers buying the products

>>14221158
I’m pretty sure it’s not on purpose. Afaik before EN, no one in JP seem to care much about doing member only content. Then EN show up and changed the game. Generally, EN seem to care a lot more about doing member stuffs

>>14223572
But even that's gonna be harder since the algo would still automatically favor vtubers. Hololive already played YT's game for a long time, and people already knows at what time should they go on YT and watch their streamers. We even have Holodex for this purpose. Unlike YT streamers, Hololive already fostered people who would watch them whenever they're live.

>>14223631
which implies enough people would want it to pay scalper prices
>scaplers
anonchama....

>>14223631
Doesn't that cope mean there's a thriving secondary market for Hololive goods, no one would scalp it if people weren't going to buy it.

>>14223847
No one scalps Nijimerch so they can't understand how it works.

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>Watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>Each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>Evil God Korone is an event game.
>All non holos are nijis
>muh subs to growth ratio
>I'd rather be popular with casuals in my own country than being viral in some backwater shit place
>Maybe we should compare Hololive proper to Nijisanji and leave gen 3 to themselves.
>Holo growth is bad
>I prefer quality numbers
>Moral victory
>Dead cat bounce
>No u
>It's all scalpers

>>14223729
True but I can see a situation where they would put different weigh on the streams kind of like how the trending tab work where a 100k view Steven Colbert video have easier chance of climbing the trending than a 2m view PewDiePie video

>>14223847
There are only like 10 people buying bulks of Hololive products.

>>14223552

>>14223908
For the love of Yagoo please rephrase the last few copes so it doesn't look so retarded

>>14223955
Can Sana pull a miracle and become the Pekora of her generation?

>>14223994
I work with what I'm given alright, if it bothers you so much you fix it

>>14222425
>mandatory 200 hours stream time a month
kek

>>14224009
no she's on track to become the Flare of her generation

>>14223955
Now one with edengumi and council together.

>>14224009
Don’t worry Pekora will adopt her, she’s not finished

>>14223908
NIJICOEP LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>ratio
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>subs to growth ratio
>subs to SC ratio
>*insert delusion about Selen here*
>VOD views don't count
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>gen 3 should be left alone so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
>Square Enix doesn't count
>combined peak CCV
>quality numbers
>dead cat bounce
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers

>>14224119
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
I mean, isn't this true though.

>>14224119
anon, no u is an actual nijicope they tried to pull, you can't just leave it out

You must trust the process nijibro. We will beat hololive next year.

>>14224060
The true black company

When did this thread become a /hlg/ colony?

So is there anything nijikeks can brag about?

>>14224148
They scalp because there's a large demand, so they can resell it for profit
If they don't scalp Holofans will buy out all the merch anyway. What makes you think that fans won't buy original priced merch when they're willing to pay for overpriced scalped ones
>>14224186
The Holocope? Well just add it to the list the next time someone wants to post it
>>14224223
Since Niji was unable to take a single day?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3REdeQnLHD4

>>14224228
That they have 3 times the amount of chuubas as hololive?

>>14224223
since Nijisanji died a dog's death

>>14224148
>Only
No. They might contribute, but consider the following tidbit.
Donki opened mail-order for those Hololive plushies, and they themselves stated "Demand was far greater than expected". This is with the intention of filling out all orders, so scalping really not so much of a concern there since scalpers rely on scarcity to drive their sales, and if the company is going to mass produce with no limit on the max orders they're taking, scalpers pretty much give up the ghost in these sorts of cases.
Suffice to say, Cover appears to have been pretty conservative with most of their merch projections thus far.

>>14223955
Thank you anon, I can't wait to see how X will look like.

>>14224148
That just proves holofans will buy merch with a much higher price while nijikeks merch will have a discount for it to sell out Kek>>14218250

Chloe’s debut buff is wearing off much faster than I thought. There’s actually a chance she won’t get to 1M in 40 days at this rate

>>14224228
That depends, do you count any metric other than peak ccv

>>14224228
>>14224410
I know, subs to sc ratio because something something diminishing returns

>>14224393
I'm actually surprised Chloe hold up this long compared to her genmates. The subcount is bound to stagnate though.

>>14224393
jops dont like to sub
it was bound to happen even wit recline andall council and myth still gain as much subs as most holos on jp, hell just look at ollie

>>14224223
Since Moona mogged kuzuha

>>14222966
i thought that's the other way around since there's a lot reaction videos there for a stream site

>>14224393
>Orca WILL surpass Kizuna's 3M before her last concert

Did someone mention ratio?
> 66% active viewers
How can Niji even compete?

>>14224060
>200 hours
Oh. Well I guess if YT is giving her preferential treatment, they might as well force her to work for it.

>>14224327
atleast 2 will be a 10k shitter. I'm guessing la+ and chloe

>>14224571
Truly Nanata is a chad.