/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>14190727
what urge a man to blogpost like this?

>>14190727
Cover could do more to look after their talents, but honestly the girls are adults who are responsible for taking care of themselves. Cover really should stop overworking them, but such is the nature of Japan and their toxic work culture.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=HFakr0uZ5vg

>>14190727
Someone tell this poor girl you can turn off discord sounds. That shit would drive anyone to madness

>>14190778
This

>>14190919
i don't get it

>>14190871
>otakmori
kys

>>14190727
My fucking boss is not responsible for telling me when the fuck I have to sleep and forcing me to eat healthy. Their managers aren't their fucking moms.

>>14190883
Stop posting clips from this faggot

Take it easy

>>14190848
if they loosen their workload, this board will never stop bitching about how lazy they are, kinda like the shitflinging happening towards EN right now.

>>14190727
so unless ayame is yagoo's daughter and she got some kind of privileges nobody has, i don't see why they don't stream less
before reaching the point of collapsing on the floor

>>14191046
what's wrong about otakmori?

>>14191409
clickbait faggot

I know dude how fucking dare they make Ayame steam after only a 2 month break, I hope she takes a good rest to recover

>>14190973
he's implying that a nijisanji fan posted this thread anon, hope that helps

>>14191409
He's notoriously bad at translating with inaccurate subtitles which has caused problems for the girls and stirred up drama and made bad situations worse, he clickbaits, exploits hololive members for views even in serious moments, blocks people and deletes comments that criticize him, only gives a shit about putting clips out as fast as possible and getting lots of views.

>>14191409
if you need to be told that he's a faggot then you're his demographic

>>14191409
he's also one of those people who clips the stuff that gets edited out of vods later, like exposing skin and stuff

>>14191597
I'm just a casual EOP viewer so you're probably right but I'll try to do better.

>>14191731
based

>>14190727
>now she got PTSD from discord notifications
I love Nene but this is legit just part of working for a company. When I'm on-call I dread hearing my text notification noise.

there are 0 black company that will allow someone to freely talk about the shit that been burdening them let alone getting rest and holiday

>>14190919
Nice to see hal doing so well

>>14191184
Ayame's contract is before Hololive tightened things up, I think her contract says 'stream whenever you feel like it'

>>14192116
shut up you're bringing in a logical counterpoint ruining this thread and board in general

>>14191935
based improver anon
gmi

>>14190919
how do we save pekora?

>>14190727
Sometimes I wonder if people of this board even like Vtubers.

>>14192174
>>14192116
you guys are talking as if any manager at hololive actually takes the time to watch streams. They can say whatever the fuck they want and managers only act when social media is on fire

>>14192169
>Explain Sana's dog induced hiatus then
Hololive contract is probably like this 'this is a minimum number of streams we recommend you to try to fulfill, it's fine to ignore it but don't cry if your fanbase leaves you/you stuck at 1k CCV'.

>>14192223
This is a containment board for mentally ill spergs nobody wants to have in any other space talking about VTubers. They really don't and want them all to fail.

>>14190727
Look at Ayame, the girls can be lazy whores who almost never stream and Cover won't care. Look at Sana, the girls can take unreasonably big breaks for retarded reasons and Cover won't care. The amount of freedom they have is something you will not find working under any other company. If they overworked themselves to death, it's entirely their fault.

>>14192223
No. I only love community drama and schizoid rumors.

>>14190727
All these bitches are 25+ and still unmarried and without children, so of-course they gonna get depressed. Their internal clock is ticking. Their bodies are asking for sex and children. Their brains are already working against them with thoughts about dying alone and feeling unfulfilled. Women are naturally more social than men because hypergamy is embedded into them since birth, so this kind of stuff affects them so much more. Men can find joy and meaning on something else and easily live as a hermit/neet but women are not as strong mentally and need social support.
And before someone mentions shit like school shooters and suicides, yes of-course men do some crazy stuff when they are mentally broken but that's because no cares about men. Women get depressed even when they are treated with kid's gloves and given everything but the pressure men tend to have to deal with is mountains bigger than anything a woman could handle. More is always expected from men than from women after all. Men don't even care if a woman is a hard worker or not, all she need to do is be there for him but a woman would never ever accept a loser. In fact she would mock him and belittle him and the man can do nothing but try to better himself just for a chance.

another evidence

>>14191935
Hololive has officially disavowed him because his translations suck dick and he goes for maximum clicks context and accuracy be damned

>>14190919
>3D Karaoke
>18k
Nenebros...

>>14190778
pic related

>>14190727
>depression, sclerosis

this board discussing clinical concepts is somehow even more incorrect than /pol/ discuss the economy

>>14190871
>join membership if you want to see my mental breakdown

I love nene so much

>>14192683
ogey

>>14190871
This is the saddest thing I've seen on here. Nene always seems so happy and cheerful, and her genmates always said it was authentic and Nene is just a burst of sunshine. It's so depressing to hear her cheerfully talk about being suicidal without dramabaiting or exaggerating. It's like actual Robin Williams territory. If Nene had killed herself, Cover would never recover.

>>14192683
You are kind of obsessed with women. Don't you want to become one?

>>14193355
i'm one, i'm a cute girl

>>14192683
based

>>14190871
>Polka dragged Nene to the hospital immediately after the breakdown stream
Absolutely based menhera senpai

Nobody told Nene to overwork herself, she's just a retard that needed to learn this lesson the hard way. At least she can now gain some sympathy SCs.

>>14191074
It's for the boss' interest to keep workers healthy and happy and strive to do so constantly? Are an american by any chance? Would explain the fucked up view on work culture

>>14193675
another american detected

I will sex the sadness out of her

>>14192683
Women get differnt kinds of pressures.
Pressure to be pretty
Pressure to put out or people call you frigid
Pressure to play hard to get or people call you slut
Pressure to wear the right things
Pressure to smile in public or people ask you what's wrong when you relax into neutral resting bitch face
Pressure to be appeasing and gentle or else people call you difficult to work with

>>14193642
Lamy has called Polka the big sister of the group who looks after them before.

>>14193822
Men have to deal with almost the exact same shit for the most part

>>14193642
Based polka being experienced in menhera breakdowns

>>14192892
>>14190919
A joke so good you do it again

>>14193860
Idk what kinda faggy society you live in anon but i have never had to deal with any of those pressures

>>14190727
I'm black

>>14193738
If you haven't realized they just got a brand new wave of workers on top of the several waves that existed before Nene. If she expects that much attention then she's naive

>>14193897
>joke

>>14193799
Nah, that's called being an adult anon, people don't understand shit until it happens to them, very few take advice based on wisdom. Korone overworked herself just like Nene did, I hope she takes it a little bit easy from now on.

>>14193738
What are they gonna do? beat her up until she has a proper schedule? threat to fire her for overworking towards her dreams?? Please anon, don't be this stupid, you don't even need to be american to tell these people are adults who decide what to do, she can take a break whenever the fuck she wants as opposed to an office/public service job, she just decides not to like Korone, just look at ayame and sana.

>>14193860
agree, anon must live in a rock or he's the most oblivous person i've seen. both genders suffer these pressures, women have it worse in some aspects, men in others.

>>14190871
wtf.. always the happy people

>>14193860
True, but you have to understand the differences in value women and men bring. A woman is inherently valuable since her birth until she hits the wall. A man has to make himself valuable, no one wants a bum.

>>14194610
Yeah, each sex has issues that the other doesn’t have to deal with but at the end of the day, everyone feels pressures from society that can make life harder for them

>>14194680
People acting happy and going out of their way to entertain others is usually a sign, see Chester Bennington

>>14192683
Too good for this board.

>>14190727
Japan itself is a black company kek

>>14190727

>>14193845
Polka is a big sister.
BIG
HUGE!

>>14193234
This. Hearing how bad Nene was doing really made me feel miserable. I'm used to hearing about depression and people wanting to die, but the fact that it came from her was scary. No one is fucking spared, not even someone who looks so full of life like her

>>14190871
>Otakmori
Don't you ever wonder why Otakmori and only Otakmori always has the deepest insights on the Holos? How they cover things like DEPRESSION, MENTAL ILLNESS, CONFLICT, WHY LAMY DOESN'T WANT TO COLLAB WITH POLKA, WHY FLARE WISHES PEOPLE WOULD STOP CALLING HER DARK ELF, etc?

It's because Otakmori is a shit translator and their titles are always clickbait. They dramatize everything. They are the channel equivalent of that one time Lyger blamed all Matsuri's fans for her absence based on nothing. Fuck off.

>>14195945
Mmm big

>>14191529
As a former post stirring nijifag, I can guarantee a lot of the "Cover is a Black Company" posting is from nijifags

>>14191409
He makes up drama. Off the top of my head, he made it seem like Lamy and Polka hated each other, tried to drag Flare into racism bait by making it seem she hated dark skin, has constantly put titles with clickbait like WHY X HOLO DOESN'T WANT TO COLLAB WITH X HOLO, and has actually been called out not just by the hugbox that is Reddit, but by Cover themselves. That's how bad his "translations" are. I think he was also partly responsible for translating that Nene had nerve damage, when she was just tired.

>>14196101
Culeable

>>14196101
God I wish her anniversary update looked like that instead of the shitshow we got.

Nene seems to have a high standard for herself. I don't think it's all cover's fault, but I'd hope they tell their talents to rest.

>>14196060
Otakmori is the Ray William Johnson of vtuber translation channels.

>>14196216
Otakmori is like a tabloid, except he does actual harm to the Holos because EOPs actually watch him and don't know better. Iroha also is guilty of this problem, which is why I avoid those "translators" like the plague and do my best to educate people about how shitty they are.

>>14196137
Forgot to mention the whole Aloe incident too. That one thing along should have gotten him blacklisted.

>>14192683
Based.
/Thread

>>14196281
So, what you're saying is that Otakmori is the Ray William Johnson of vtuber translation channels.

>>14192683
holy basado.

>>1419613
>Nene had nerve damage
You mean Korone. He mistranslated "nervous breakdown" as a particular tye of uncurable neurological disorder. Nene got diagnosed with depression.

>>14196621
You're right I mixed it up.

>>14195939
>made friends with funny people
>we all get to know each other and turns out we were all diagnosed with depression at some point
it be like that

Any nonshitsubs backing this up or just otakmori being a shit again?

>>14195939
Funny how so many comedians offed themselves, yet you never see any of those brooding faggots do it, even if they say it every 2 seconds. Often times its those that can make others happy that can't make themselves happy. Thank you for reading my blogpost.

Someone has to save Watame. The amount she streams and the hours she streams at can't be healthy. A while back she was all stressing out about going on break and made all kinds of videos to upload during her break so her fans would still get content. Meanwhile the duration of her break was... three days. It wouldn't surprise me if she's next to break down. Where would the watamates go then with their mental problems if they can't go to an anime sheep for therapy?

>>14190727
Showbusiness is tough anon.

>>14197117
I mean Nene did take a stress-related break and Ayame did go on hiatus because her voice didn't return.

But none of the details are anything like the otakmori subs.

>>14197633
What happened to Nene?

>>14197633
>>14198038
The Nene clip is one of his better translated clips, dialing up the drama by using the most emotionally charged phrasing whenever possible. But the broad strokes of Nene having crying fits, and taking a stress break is definitely in what she said, as was Polka going with her to the mental health clinic and got diagnosed with clinical depression. Something that Otakmori left out was that her manager told her to take a break as long as she wanted.

>>14198265
For some reason this is the 3rd corpo vtuber I heard getting clinical depression at this time. What is happening

>>14196060
Otakmori current status is being based as fuck.
Not only he clips every relevant event of the day. He also started posting comments adding context or clarifying stuff.
Even if the TL isn't completely accurate, you'll hear about your oshi's issues from him first. Other clippers can eat shit afaik if all they can do is complain about him but never go out of their way to outproduce.

>>14198338
Streaming isn't as easy as it looks, working for a corporation no matter how not-black company they are isn't as comfortable as the theoretical safety net looks, coronachan is a bitch, and as >>14192683 creativey put it women are generally not wired to find fulfilment through their work.

>>14198474
>sure he’s wrong and malicious but he’s also wrong and malicious A LOT!

>>14190727
Is it actually Cover that pushes them to stream daily? They always say they choose to stream that much but it seems like they have to stream daily for financial reasons. Are the Holomem afraid their numbers will drop if they "only" stream 3 times a week?

>>14198822
anon look at Ayame's streaming schedule and tell me if Cover forces them to do anything.

>>14193738
Does your country's employers wipe their employees' asses for them?

Im all for shitting on cover but lack of mental health care has always been a huge issue in Japan.

>>14198822
It depends on the manager
>>14198844
Her manager pressures her to stream, she's obviously isnt happy with her schedule but the talent has the final say especially if they have any issue.

>>14198822
Multiple youtubers have expressed their fear and anxiety of falling off or even taking breaks and being irrelevant when they return. I could only imagine that is the same, but worst for a streamer. On top of that (at least the JPs) has idol work outside of streaming.

>>14198844
And Ayame's excuse is 'muh singing is bad'. How long will the simps buy it?
>>14198905
It's still Nene's job to deal with her issues. Management can't be her babysitter.

>>14196132
Yea sure it is anon.
The irrelevant "dead" company, forever living rent free in your head.

>>14198474
This is bait. I can break the news that your oshi just had sex with me, you'll hear about it from me first. Except I'm lying and it's not true, but I'm based for doing it.

>>14199188
What the fuck is your problem?

>>14192683
Yeah, men are so okay with being alone that they start posting on schizo image boards to deal with it.

>>14198994
Management's job is being a babysitter

>>14190727
It's a company with over 60 talents, OP. Some of them are going to have mental issues, especially since they are entertainers. Hololive isn't the only place where people get depression either, see pic related.

>>14190727
>when will Cover stop giving our oshis depression, sclerosis and eventually suicidal thoughts?
>If it wasn't for POLKA, Nene would just continue to ignore her problems like not sleeping for 4 days straight or crying whenever she hears the Discord Notification que. her manager probably forced her to overwork, now she got PTSD from discord notifications.

>>14190727
>"black company "
>"overwork"
Ayame literally just came back from a 3 month break. If nene is overworked then it's most likely her fault.

>>14198905
I don't think her managers pressure her to stream, I think Nene herself pressures her to stream. The is the same woman who kept on trying to join Hololive despite not making the cut multiple times. Hopefully between this break and support from people like Polka will stop her from burning herself out again.

>>14190727
Nigger, why'd copy paste my fucking post from the Nene general
You're making me go to Japan. And if I go to Japan, Cover will start delivering bad news on a daily basis because of you.

>>14199669
But he doesn't have depression due to overwork he's always had it. He had a pretty fucked up childhood.

I wish Hololive was a BLACKED company

>>14190871
>Otakmori

>>14190727
Weird to think the one who had a mental break down and graduated somehow came out more mentally stable after a year. Something else to consider I suspect Nene has antis harassing her which is adding onto the stress.

>>14199981
talking about ayameru

>>14197473
I love Watame but I honestly worry.
I work into the evening here in the US and when I check the /jp/ time it scares me how fucked up her sleep schedule is.

>>14190727
This is not a sign of Cover being a black company, retard. Nene just pushed herself too much and hid her depression

>>14193738
Anon, the only country aside from literal slave labour, that has worse work ethics than america, is asian countries like japan and korea. Japanese companies dont care about you more than american companies do, if anything they push you more. You people also seem to forget that streaming/being a vtuber/idol is not just putting in hours and streaming, having decent mental health is pretty important for the job if you dont want to lose your fucking mind

something something great clown pagliacci

>>14190727
That's why you dont try to be Sora. There's reason why she was highly respected for able to handled all those workload and pressure thrown into her and solo carried the whole company back in the day. Just take it easy and dont bite more than you can chew

>>14195501
Robin Williams as well
Jim Carrey also
I wonder if there's a connection between people who like making others laugh and depression

>>14212821
So Joker does have basis in reality

>>14190727
take your meds and fuck off.

>>14191935
(you) are quite based, anon

>>14193928
nice

How are they black I thought they were asian

>>14192232
>Blalantly Ignores Korone's manager begging her to sleep multiple times throught her marathon streams

It really isnt Covers fault per se, but they really really should make breaks mandatory.

Don't really know what kind of contracts they put in terms of man hours but every job should have limits. There are always people who push themselves too far and in terms of entertainment industry like VTubing that is more often the case than not

>>14203464
Health wise she's fine apart from her being underweight.

>>14192032
I used to do work for an overseas company after college and they would call me at ungodly hours with assignments. I still twitch when I hear that ringtone even though I haven't used it in years

>>14190727
hololive is a block company

>>14192683
>before someone mentions shit like school shooters and suicides
all MKUltra, every single one of these "shooters" have had "therapist sessions" just before the shooting.
And they almost always happen around the time some other important news drops to distract from it.

>>14192683
unironically based, albeit slightly schizopilled

>>14224861
Based schizo give me a video to watch on this bullshit, im not an fbi agent anon bro trust me I like oshis my favourite ones are inugami korone and gawr gura

>>14197473
That break was company mandated fyi, she's been working so much Cover risked breaking labor laws.