/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>3 seconds faster
This thread wins

>>14180289
Crocodile Tears Motherfuckers

this one please for maximum salt kek.

Explain this?

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>14180352
>ARS
...

OJOU, I KNEEEEL

https://youtu.be/oAQDaAeoSqk
Live translation bro 3k ccv

>>14180406
this guy is a legend, he did the same for Koyori

She got soooo close to 60k, highest I see is 59.7.
Look like it's starting to drop now.

>>14180289
>>14180293
fuck which one do we use?

>>>14180248
Nousagi will watch anything (or 99%) of all things pekora puts out. But part of being a nousagi is mocking and lightly bully pekora when she acts to smug and fucks up, but yes fanatics to the core. Nakarigumi as just your lowest level of cucks.

>starts stream
>were already laughing at something
>didn't realize they were recording
what were they laughing at?

>27:41 [EN][TL/英語] "While I was resting, we got new kouhais. I was watching their streams..."
>28:08 [EN][TL/英語] "I felt like 'When the new girls are working so hard! I need to start doing my very best too!."
>28:14 [EN][TL/英語] "I felt like they gave me some energy."
>28:33 [EN][TL/英語] "I want to get along with them...this shy me."
>28:42 [EN][TL/英語] "By the way I still didn't reach out to them."

I found this somewhere. If she will do a lot of streaming, will her numbers fall?

>>14180437
She got 60k already

I just sent Ayame another fat akasupa

>>14180437
59998 according to holostats. Painfully close.

>>14180289
Undisputed strongest hololive no cap.
Fubuki who?
Pekora who?
This is the real deal
The Apex Predator
The Sigma
The Alpa and Omega
The Almighty
The Akbar
The Omnipotent
Nakiri Ayame.

>>14180457
>I want to get along with them
with Iroha pls

>>14180457
>When the new girls are working so hard! I need to start doing my very best too!
"Oh shit people might finally give up on me if I don't stream during the first months of gen 6!"

>>14180452
Pekora is a hardworker.

>>14180457
ANON, IMAGINE. Orca and Oni,
IMAGINING THE #

Chloe sounds so much better with Lui's better mic setup

>>14180457
Yes, or rather they will be around 10-20k depending on the content of the stream.

>>14180453
At Ayame not getting 60k

AYAME GOT 60K

God damn it i fucking laughed at this thread.

Orca/Hagbird are over 30k during Ayame's paypig milking stream. Wonder how many move over when she gets too tired to continue.

That the collab is getting 33k+ in the first 10 minutes and is still on the rise just shows that the girls brought in a lot of either tourists or new blood. Ayame has only dropped ~7k since her peak.

>>14180457
>>14180171
Well she just said it herself
>Meaning
>Fuck i gotta stream or lose my gachi to those fucking newbies

>>14180633
No she didn't. Orca cucked her, as it should be

>>14180685
Marine Drop 7k/37k so in total its kinda big deal

>>14180453
>these retards are falling for Ayame's lies again
>top kusa

>>14180457
>>28:14 [EN][TL/英語] "I felt like they gave me some energy."
Kek, she knows there is a clear overlap.

i still can't believe there's two /#/ rn on board lmao

what incline speed do you call this

We have two overlapping number threads, we need to end one thread to maximise our numbers.

>>14180734
But not from the collab start. She dropped 3 k from the point that lui/chloe started to "now".

>>14180581
The share the same colors

>>14180808
It's okay, people busy calling Nakirigumi cucks will keep both alive and well

>>14180808
For some reason this seems quite like something else going on right now...

>>14180808
maybe the retards in the other thread should look at the post times.

>>14180808
I say we race the other thread.

Did we have split? Didnt know our threads were big enough for that to happen

>>14180857
>Ojou so strong she manages to kickstart two threads
I kneel

>>14180808
Why would numbers settle for nothing less but the number magnet topic that is ayame?

>>14180808
The number Thread are like the stream. Once on ends the other will have all the views. Just let it run its course anon all roads lead to the numbers!

this double numbers thread would have been more fitting if the other OP was chloe lui

>>14180887
It happens during Jp peak when there is something big going on.

>>14180887
only once every 2 months

Fuck yes, 60k get, that means another 60k+ gold. This month is amazing for numbers.

I believe in Ojou's supremacy so I will stay is this one

>>14180508
She is the antagonist of Hololive and will inevitably job to FBK and Mio

>>14180887
The other thread contains all the nakiricucks. This thread only observe true numbers.

HATERS AND LOSERS BTFO!

sakamata... sorry for doubting you, arigato for illegal boosting

>>14180926
It really is. I haven't been able to stop masturbating to these numbers since laplus's debut.

Come on anons we cant lose against the other thread

>>14180987
It's a true numberfag christmas miracle if we ever have one.

>38k ez

STREAM GOT DISCONNECTED
>STREAM GOT DISCONNECTED
STREAM GOT DISCONNECTED
>STREAM GOT DISCONNECTED
STREAM GOT DISCONNECTED
>STREAM GOT DISCONNECTED

Lui's stream dead

Oh shit, Orca killed Ayame's stream! This new gen is savage!

wut just happen?

And there Chole ordered a ddos on Ayame nuking her stream. She sure doesn't pull any punches, first botting and now ddos!

RIP Stream...

WATAMAGE!!!!

>>14180980
OJOU!

>>14181035
YT Sabotage.

GAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA HOLY SHIT Is this the power of Ojou.

THEY CANT KEEP DOING THIS TO LUI AAAAAAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

both streams dropped btw was watching both and thought my internet dced

someone call niji HQ they only have 1 10k today

Imagine trying to fight against the protagonist of Hololive

>>14181057
>you called?
>Who shall i sabotage?

>>14181118
Good thing ayame will stop before Mikochi's stream

Meanwhile...

>>14181118
*Antagonist

Moona you can do it

I have a feeling Ojou's real numbers is making YT shit bricks

>>14181033
>>14181043
Both were down, if you were a REAL numberfag you'd have know because of multiple devices moderating ALL NUMBERS. I don't have this problem I've been plug into the number Matrix

nice bounce back, hows ojou's side?

>>14181104
SHUT UP LUI NEE! KEEP GOING!!

>>14181163
who?

NOW ORCA'S NUMBERS ARE HIGHER!
KNEEL TO LEX LUTHOR

>>14181185
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/2xwmZMqMup8
Much the same, but it looks like she ate a bigger hit in her numbers.

come on moona hit that 10k

>>14181195
NOOOOOOOOOO I DONT WANT TO KNEEL

I'M KNEELING

>>14181043
She's never afraid to use all tricks in the book.

>>14181185
she took a bigger hit, so a lower recover. But decent enough from 0 basically.

New merch

>>14181268
WILL ALWAAAYSSSS LOVE YOUUUUU!!!!!!

>>14181275
Holy fuck lmao

>ojou cucked out of 60k
>chloe x lui cucked out of 40k
cant make this shit up

>figure
This is why you don't fire money generating machines like Ayame. Retards can only see one thing

>>14181118
Aqua...

>>14181268
NOW FOR THE FUNNEL INTO REINE'S STREAM

>>14181280
I'm afraid that she will soon become desparate and hire a yakuuza hitman to eliminate Pekora.

>>14181330
ILLEGAL

>>14181268
the true protagonist....

>>14181118
But Pekora has a split POV today

>>14181318
Watch again >>14180980

>>14180352
just another akasupa afaik, simple japanese so i think he's an JSL, although there's this recurring kanji idk. just your standard "ur so cute i love you" "welcome back" "and how she's his only one oshi despite there are new shiny girls" "getting cold so mind ur health" "changing his icon" etc... if anything notable it should be how this guy is a 初見 (probably joking) and his first supa is red. This you anon?

>>14181318
60k was recorded
>>14180980

>>14181302
>comes back to shill merch
I fucking kneel

I just realize this Pe BoToRu stream is literally just UsaKen

>>14181268
that's unusually high for Moona! did HoloX really brought in a lot of new fans?

>>14181330
>moona karaoke
>funneling
NGMI

>>14181302
Holyfuck she is just the best villain ever.

>>14181393
Mooner....

>>14181268
HOLY SHIT MOONA! she was THIS gold all along!?

It's over bros...
Lui won't get 40k let alone 60k

>shilling merch
o-oujo think of the optics..

>>14181411
Possibly, but she's also setting things up for Reine. What an excellent senpai.

>>14181429
Moona is on a business trip, can't attend this company meeting

>>14181435
>back to 38k ez

>>14181430
Not numbers here, but she's been doing her singing reps. She's really good with these EN songs she picks, she's got a lot of power to her voice and it sounds GOOD.

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
>NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
KING BROS! WE GOT TOO COCKY!

>ONE! NOTHING WRONG WITH ME!

>>14181457
I wonder how many would actually transfer to Reine.

>>14181444
>comes back after two months just to push merch
Her fans really deserve her lol.

>>14181510
HOLY SHIT MOONA SNIPING THE KING

>>14181510
King onegai stop playing that boring ass game.

>>14181510
mogged by IDs ...

>>14181510
Worst part is that it made the ranking, if it hadn't maybe nobody would have noticed. Now it is immortalized

>>14181510
>10k
>King
More like pawn

>>14181381
>how she's his only one oshi despite there are new shiny girls
He says "always one of my oshis" not one and only oshi.

>>14181562
He is the King of male Vtuber.

>>14181510
GO MOONA GO

>>14181392
That's the only reason she comes back lately. To shill and celebrate.

>>14181562
Pawns are very useful tho. King is ironically the burden.

>>14181510
Lol so that's why Nijifags are so hellbent on shitting HoloEN earlier, they wanted to hide this.

>>14181510
Utterly pathetic.

>>14181510
Damn, Kuzuha doesn't get any help from Nijisanji.
I think the biggest strength of Hololive is how connected are a lot of its fanbases but Niji is truely a shithole of a company.
I don't understand why he doesn't just leave.

>>14181659
Leave the where? Better be the biggest fish in a fairly big pond than try your luck in the sea.

Why is literally everyone streamed at this time of the day?

>>14181720
JST Primetime..

>>14181720
Nips primerime purisu andastando

>>14181720
JP/ID Prime time

>>14181510
Nijibros ... It's over ...

>>14181720
welcome to nip prime time.

>>14181720
To assert dominance.

>>14181702
nice words

>>14181609
Isn’t anything that isn’t Apex a massive debuff for him?

>>14181776
>Welcome to nip primetime with everyone motivated by the appearance of a new gen debuting to the biggest vtuber debuts EVER
It's TOURIST HUNTING SEASON.

well it was a good try, hope lui-chan gets recognized more - her ballad singing is really nice

>>14181510
Poor performance from the second most popular vampire themed chuba

>>14181821
He gets good number with RE, BOTW, but his audience clearly isn't interested in Valo.

Orcabros... we didn't get 40k.

>>14181510
kang...

So Ayame gets the gold?

>>14181821
Nah, his audience also loves single player games.

>>14181872
with that many overlap at prime time, i'm not surprised...

[NEWS] Kuzuha also got mogged by Botan just now

>>14181872
>The Lazyqueen cried because she's losing ground
Orca is hungry and sleeping food is still food

>>14181659
>Niji is truely a shithole of a company.
No shit, you seen the fat cunt who owns it

sorry for letting you down sakamata... lets try our best next time, okay?

OH IT'S PEKO TIME, JOGGERS.

>>14181998
Peko is our last hope to prevent ojou from getting gold

>>14181944
Based la-lion

>>14182023
>3 POV
Yeah not happening.

>>14181894
Nope she broke the rules and cried on stream. Lui and Chloe are doing an off collab so that broke the rule and moon is an ID so does count while singing unarchive karaoke so that broke the rules.
Kuzuha wins today

>>14181852
>Lui-neeeee assemble HoloX!

>>14182056
Why this is so funny

>>14182023
why is rushia there with pebot collab?

>>14181998
>PEBOTA split pov
not happening peko

>>14181268
>single singlehandedly outshining nijiEN and council

>>14182023
Peko loves ojou so she wont take her only gold of the month

>HoloX? Never heard of them

>>14182053
KING I KNEEL

>>14181971

>>14182023
1 POV possibly beats Ojou or 3 POV and let Botan beats Kuzuha, choose one.

Strong showing considering the shit game choice and split POV
>>14182092
She addressed them in this stream and said seeing them working so hard while she was moping made her feel like she should try harder too.

Will pekora atleast beat her PEBOTA split pov record?

WILL ASTEL 3D SOMETHING MOG KING AS WELL?

Oh no reniebros...

>>14182053
NOO takeshi the amount of cope you're taking will kiiru yuu

>>14182126
I wouldn't be surprised if he asked King's boyfriend to tell him to stream valorant

>>14182123
What the fuck is PEBOTA?

>>14182126
You mean tomorrow 3D ? Maybe he can beats KING's today number

>>14182126
>WILL ASTEL 3D SOMETHING MOG KING AS WELL?
MASAKA! NO WAY, HE WOULDN'T DARE!

>>14182160
and that's tomorrow

>>14182076
It's a 4 person game, and the usaken connection I guess

>>14182076
UsaKen company meeting

>peko at 32k already.
She's a fucking powerhouse, bros.

>>14182179
PEkoBotanTowa

>>14182211
And it's a split POV collab, I kneel.

>>14182213
Then it's PEBOTO, not PEBOTA

>pekora 32k
>botan 14k
>towa 5k
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

>>14182053
Kek

>>14182243
Ahem
PEkoBOtanTowA

>>14182246
Tokyo tower...

>>14181510
Oh Nyoooooo

>>14181510
Come to think of it, I’ve never seen anyone in /vt/ post the image of kuzuha punching matsuri

Need that but reversed and with moona

>>14181510
I'm not even a nijinigger and this hurts for some reason

Wait, what is Pekora's highest view for a PEBOT collab? Was it the payday one?

>Nijisanji numbers right now
APOLOGIZE TO PRINCESS HOSHIKAWA!
(throw a kneel her direction too if you are inclined)

>>14182053

>>14182074
Ikr kek

>>14181702
Holostars

>>14182356
Anon, he said the sea not the gutters

>>14182246
Tortellini...

>>14182328

>>14181510
Kneel to the queen now.

>>14182246
Torentino...

>>14182328
>Not one stream above 10k
*SPIT*
Combined it's less than 45k.
PATHETIC.

7 Holo >10K, from 5 different gen ( before Marine finished)

>>14182396
you dont get to say that fauna...

>>14182328
blue ayame needs to learn from red ayame

>>14182328
Umm... nijisisters??? Why are we losing this badly????

>>14182328
/vt/ tells me Niji is big in Japan, but where? Youtube ain't it.

>>14182328
Mogged by an indog.

Nijifags, what's your cope this time?

>>14182423
>>Combined it's less than 45k.
Someone do a "Who would win, a onii or 40 nijis?"

>>14182328
>271
Horishieet!! Whatever happened to Hana!? Wasnt she like 1.5k-2k average?

>>14182458
They sell more merch.

>>14182470
Hana used self-destruct! It's super effective!

man it is always great to see pekora streaming and calling all her nousagi to her stream.

NepoPrime of the numbergen participating in the prime time bloodbath

>>14182328
I never actually followed Niji ID, but wasn't Hana pretty popular back in the day? What happened to her? Moona literally got 10k today.

>>14182470
She didn't like standing out too much so she intentionally filtered out EOPs.

Unironically killed Niji's momentum in the West. Why are the EOP magnets in Niji like this?

>>14182486
Classic Nijicope. Gotta love it

>>14182461
Indogs don't count, they are sub human vtubers we don't count!

>>14182328
funnily enough even Reine would mog a good 41 of them

Pekora 36k jesas

>>14182507
All of her employees are mogging her...on stream...

>>14182507
She must be the biggest jp vtuber, might even have more active viewers than gura.

>>14182546
what?! this is pekora giving bonuses to them

>>14182458
Please understand, unironically too many tourists and viewership spread out across too many different chubbas, some who don't stream very often.

>>14182547
Nope, Gura still has 100k+ more vods view on average.

>>14182470
Was Hana the one who said that vtubers are just e-thots and that viewers are loser simps?

>>14182446
>>1612662

>>14182458
I think they said on TV with the ojisans, like on last's year New Year event

>>14182547
It's been a fact since forever. Gura can't compete regarding this.

>>14182547
It's the good time for Gura to adjust her stream style, didn't she recruit editors? That's her style before Holo.

>>14182522
>mogged by subhuman
lower than subhuman, then. Just hand them some tantos, mass seppuku collab when?

>>14182575
I know this is bait but
>jp vtuber

>>14182575
When one anon added up their last 30 videos and did the average the difference was only 9k

>>14182246
torres...

>>14182470
Self sabotaged cause she couldn't take the pressure of being the lead ID. Its one of the biggest missed opportunities in terms of Niji making headway into the western market. Hana was one of the most popular English speaking chuubas, regardless of company affiliation, in the industry. She could have leveraged that and basically become the Coco of not just NijiID but the entirety of Nijisanji itself. Alas, she was unfortunately just an ordinary Chuuba at a time when Nijisanji needed someone that was extraordinary, so when HoloEn debuted she basically was forgotten overnight.

>>14182522
>they are sub human vtubers
What do you call the rest of Niji then?>>14182328

just saw this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMrv0spiMYs
>38k views
>1 day ago
that's depressing.

>>14182515
Why didnt those lucks transfered to people like Ars or even Utako has makes attempt to EOP pandering no matter how small their numbers are, not these bitches (hanaRin)

Is Pekora about to get to 40k with this game lol

>>14182615
HoloEN don't tend to stream as often as the Jp side, tho.

>>14182623
How is that bait?

What the fuck did Pekora rally her fucking viewers or soemthing wtf

>>14182703
is that even a question!?

>>14182684
>worse than Smile & Go

>>14182671
It's better to be in nijisanji then to be Indonesian

>>14182513
Meru sama please, he is already ded ...>>14181510

>>14182712

Gura is a jp vtuber now?

>>14182609
>Last year
Kek cant do that again this year

>>14182714
how many time should i write here that pekora > hololive !!

The number rabbit is so powerful

And people wonder why Pekora didn't seem worried at all about gen6

Nousagis are always present, they go crazy af on 3d streams.

>>14182714
go go number bunny! call your nousagi to rise up for numbers!

>>14182691
Because Nijisanji vtubers are disconnected so EOPs wouldn't know about them.

Meanwhile in Hololive, if, for example, you got baited by a Korone clip, you would soon end up knowing about OKFAMS.

Then from Subaru you end up learning about Pekora, Luna, and Choco.
From Pekora, you learn about all of Gen 3 and Towa.
From Luna and Towa, you learn about Coco and Kanata.
From Coco, you practically learn about everyone else from her Asacoco streams.

This is how the Hololive box push ended up redistributing their tourists among their streamers.

>>14182691
Cause Ars offers nothing aside from being cute. She lacks the charisma and drawing power of Korone back when she was doing her EOP pandering. I don't know anything about utako.

AYO STOP THE COUNT

>>14182470
>>14182644
Of course part of her self sabotage arc was equaling herself (and, even worse, her peer) to ethots and antagonizing a segment of the audience better left alone (while aligning herself with another segment also better left alone).

She may have killed Nijisanji westward drive all by herself.

180k watching hololive right now?

>>14182644
Riku really need to hire his own watamage. But on a serious note tho, this is just shown that unlike Holo, nijilivers just dont give a shit about the bigger group (Nijisanji as whole). They treat it like your usual parttime workplace

>>14182775
She has seen a lot of powerful kohai and still becomes the only Rabbit .

>>14182789
TLDR: Hololive proves that state authoritarian capitalism is far superior than laissez-faire capitalist oligarchies and why China will win the new cold war.

Do you guys think that the Holocaust was a blessing in disguise because it forced the JP girls into being more creative with their streams as well as force them to spam Minecraft, thus creating a lot of story arcs?

Wtf Watamage, you can't keep getting away with this!

>>14182824
Yes, they are their own prefecture level TV station

>>14182824
based on previous weeks numbers, apparently 30k only came to watch Ayame
the average has been like 150k at this hour for some time

>>14182850
None can surpass the Peko.
She maxxed out on everything there is to without the need of whoring heeself out.

Pekora might get silver on a fucking stacked day with split POV kusoge

>>14182821
Yikes
>>14182789
Box pushing really is the ideal meta for a streamer group

>>14182913
She hasn't streamed in 2 months, anon. Also she peaked at 30k before her stream shut down.

>>14182850
I think it was her who said it that even her haters are just people who haven't liked her yet. So to her perspective, HoloX is just a gateway to being a nousagi.

>>14182918
true, how many time should i write this., ugh!
pekora > hololive,
pekora is the one that promotes hololive , andatstand peko?!

100% hololive fans are 100% pekora's

>>14182926
Totally deserved.

>>14182950
wasn't the peak 60k?

>Miko is streaming, the reddit duck poster is gone
Hmmm

>>14182905
anon, if state authoritarian capitalism is really that much more superior they wouldn't be suffering from rolling blackouts

To be honest, I have zero expectation that Pekora would even break 30k in this collab after the PUBG stream.
Sorry for doubting numberbunny.

>>14182971
Yep my mistake she peaked at 60k today.

>>14182952
That's actually a thing. I hated FGO before and then a few months later guess what? I started to see the good side of it and become a fan
Ironically hater have the highest chance of being converted because while looking for reason to hate something, they will see the good side of it too

>>14183013
this isn't fps...

>>14182959
You should use this (--->), since (>) is a greater than and your usage inidcates you're saying Pekora is greater than hololive, which is really the opposite of what you meant to say.
Such that what goes to peko, so too does it go to Hololive as a whole, and that is ultimately what feeds the box-push and unity image.

>>14183013
FPS is an automatic -15k for FPS_KING_USADA

>39,482
>39,482
>39,482

>>14183052
pekora>>>>>>>>>hololive

Following Pekora's comedy luck, she is losing numbers now because she keeps fucking dying and got left behind and everyone is switching streams to check where the other 3 are.

>Nijisisters back to trying to pit fanbase against fanbase
Should I just assume Kuzuha isn’t making it to the medals today? Too lazy to scroll up and read up

>>14182821
Why are indogs like this?

Even HoloID seems to be a bit iffy about the whole kayfabe thing, but at least they aren't dumb enough yet to outright say it like this.

>>14183127
Kuzuha literally got beaten by Moona, not a single a niji in the top so far.

>>14183127
worse, beaten by Moona

>>14183127
He got mogged by fucking Moona. You tell me.

Peko has too much shit going on for her.
>Great design
>Unique and original catchphrase even other members used as inspiration
>unique and original laugh (even before hololive)
> GOAT bgm, no need to even try to surpass it.
> hilarious af (her comedic timing is insane, you will laugh even by watching minecraft)
>loud, high pitched voice that goes perfectly with her design and personality.
Peko is too much.

What's with all the obvious shitposts targeting Pekora? She's not even taking gold today

>>14183161
Praise the Moon. Much deserved from her. May she hit 1 million subs soon.

>>14182905
The only thing they proved is that making groups works very well for advertising everyone else's streams, hence the reason why people who are usually alone gets lower numbers and surely one of the reasons of homos being that small

I think there is a crisis in nijisanji

>>14183109
arigatoupeko

>>14183127
Even worse anon, mogged by moon

That fucking jump is actually tricky though. I doubt Pekora can do it

>>14183210
KNEEL

>>14183117
Pekora still more than doubles the second highest viewed girl in her collab

>>14183179
She just need virality luck of Gura

You think Anicara is stressing a lot over low numbers and slowly getting killed by holo?

>>14182730
What about niji ID then

>>14182789
Why can't any other company replicate this with then?

>>14181268
kek, Ollie will surpass her soon. not even youtube music weekend or suisei can save her

Individually Holo has a lot of strong talents but as a group? They rival other major forms of media in the JP sphere. Even better they have a long track record of being relatively seiso, toeing the company line, being discreet, and avoiding anything remotely controversial or political like the plague. They are tailor made for advertising.

>>14183275
They are not holo

>>14183287
They also have fans that are willing to buy anything with their oshi's face in it

>>14183282
Remind me again when was the last time Ollie got this much on a normal stream?

>>14183262
don't worry, they are waiting for the seeds to grow in the desert

>>14183262
>slowly

>>14183287
Even matsuri managed to have an anime cameo. Hololive is where it's at.

>>14183287
>They are tailor made for advertising.
Japanese advertising
Thank the lord that they have yet to be forced to deal with the American "Inclusive" brand of advertisement

>>14183179
>GOAT bgm
It fits to everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hyNSPHFuNc

>>14183325
a quick death would make them gone already anon

>>14183262
that's the numberrot talking, time to take a break bro

>>14183282
Ollie can't relly on collabs forever, she is gonna need to start putting on real solo work to get these bumbers, anon.
I know that's hard for Ollie since she doesn't have any talent

>>14183333
I fear the EN side will inevitably follow this line of thought.

Lui & Chloe is doing well, despite a strong slot, getting sandwiched with Marine, PEBOTRu, Suisei and Miko

>>14183352
but the numbers!!!!!
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

>>14183379
Well, Cover HQ is still in Japan, so I have hope
They're not Sony ...

>>14183282
at this pace, Moona needs exactly 2 months
Ollie needs a little bit more, probably an extra week, it's going to be close

>>14183275
Takes years to do this. Each gen/wave needs time to form their own identity as a streamer and build bonds and more importantly narratives. Only then can you add a new gen/wave. Also important: no one gets left behind. Niji can’t pretend to be a big happy family when half their roster is sub 1k and there’s no apparent effort to help them. Mel wants to a make a push and all the big guns contribute to a 3D that beat out Kuzeha. Sana just takes a break for a month and never once was there even a hint that management or the other girls were upset about it. Every started getting infested with bugs and the talent and fans all just held ranks. Break the illusion too much and you just have a loosely connected group of streamers. Part of the reason I suspect festival took such a hit, her very minor spat with Haachama rubbed people in exactly the wrong way

>>14183262
They're slowly and steadily inclining. What's there for them to be worried about?

>>14183275
You need
>Strong frontrunners to Draw in people
>Strong Second stringers who benefit from the eyes
>People who are good at organizing and keeping unity amongst people
>An atmosphere that breeds unity
>Yet one that allows playful bantz so that members can play off each other without too much issue
Hololive got very lucky in who they picked early with people like Fubuki, Korone, Coco, Aqua, etc. Ultimately, its the scouting department in Hololive that made any of it possible, and scouting talent/luck of that level is simply not available to 'buy' most of the time.

>>14183262
my bet is that some of them are finally choosing if they should stay or leave the company

>>14183398
Also cover hasn't gone public has it? That's usually a good line of defense

>>14183355
>>14183282
moonakeks cope

>>14183423
Are they?

>>14183275
Because they are trying to copy a formula that occured by the hand of Lady Luck herself. It's like a puzzle board. While holo by sheer luck/witchcraft given a box of puzzle that guarantee will formed a bigger picture if you dont mess up and follow the instruction, others are just picking up random pieces while trying to formed the same picture.

>>14183423
>steadily inclining
???

>>14183448
Aren't most of them parttimers, i.e. vtubing is a side gig?

>>14183422
>Sana just takes a break for a month and never once was there even a hint that management or the other girls were upset about it
I'm reasonably certain the reason why she took an entire months' break is because she had to travel back to bury her dog and had to deal with australia's draconian quarantine measures in the process

>>14182907
>more creative

lmao

minecraft spam had to help though

Will this mean that Quest room will be the next Phasmophobia?

>>14183423

>>14183446
Current Hololive's fame was built by coco, haachama, fubuki and pekora. They led the way to EN and all the kaigai niki grind. We are talking early and mid 2020. Hololive was around since 2018 and vtubers as a genre was a pretty small community.

>>14183515
the small ones yeah, but not the big ones

Suisei managed to wrest 28.3k viewers for her Utawaku while heavy hitters like Pekora, Ayame with Return Buff, Miko, and Lui+Chloe were all streaming

>>14183446
Maintaining unity with 50+ young women in an creative field… look a lot of us have been in various work environments and every time female>2 it seems like they immediately start ganging up and shittalking. Sometimes an older more sensible employee can be a peacemaker, sometimes they just become the bitter middle aged office bitch. It’s actually insane they’ve managed to keep the drama to a minimum all things considered. That is no small feat

>>14183410
>These indogs will hit 1M before Polka
I can't help but feel Polka's PL fanbase was right and she should have gone to Nijisanji instead

>>14183454
Seetheyour 2 view leech will never see these numbers on her own

>>14183448
if they're considering leaving nijisanji over their low numbers they're fucking stupid, because if they have low numbers for Nijisanji they'll be virtually unknown as anyone else.

>>14183548
is the game really that good?

>>14183319
unlike Moona. Ollie numbers doesn't came from leeching bigger senpai

>>14183581
Polka does a lot of roommate stuff and isn’t much of a numberfag though she has her moments. She seems content to amuse herself and be codependent with chat in semi retirement

>>14183610
Not if "anywhere else" is Hololive

>>14183410
moona and ollie have this much sub but they have shit ccv, how?

>>14183573
This is japan we are talking about. Appearances are a must for every person. There's even an old phrase that everyone has 3 faces: one showed to the world, one to friends and family and the third one (your actual feelings and thoughts) you show to no one.

>>14183616
It's just simple obstacle courses, but the part they are on now arguably require good teamwork but not the kind of complicated teamwork like Phasmophobia

>>14183554
>pekora
Shut up, newfag.

>>14183616
nta bu if the collab has the bants for it, it's pretty entertaining. But then again I find Phasmophobia to be pretty meh so this might just be more up my alley.

>>14183352
every corporation is numberfagging, dumbass, that's how they measure whether their product/talent success or not
>>14183522
because the dead dog excuse was bullshit, even the most generous corporation will give you max a week, dont know in another country but in my country you'll be given max a week off if someone very close to you like your parents or children passed away

>>14183581

polka lives in the guerrila way tho. I doubt she cares that much

>>14183663
If they think they're getting into Hololive they're even more delusional

>>14182824
>offcollab with the big star of your gen
>30k
Rumao

>>14183573
It helps that
>They don't have to be around each other 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, so if they don't like another holomem, they can just opt to keep their distance instead of letting stress and petty drama build up
>They have multiple holomem who act as mentors and help keep everyone in line
>That there's money to be made and the making is good
All of these keep the gears greased and things working smooth such that when something does come up, it's usually quickly dealt with and people move on.

>>14183688
There's a difference between numberfagging and numberot, saying that nijisanji is slowly getting killed when they can still muster 45k viewers is the numberrot taking hold.

>>14183319
Remind me again when was the last time moona got this much aside from karaoke stream?

>>14183275
They do. Niji EN is as successful as it is precisely because they aped that strategy. Same goes for VShojo. You just can't dethrone the market leader who has a year-long head start and doesn't make major mistakes by simply repeating what they do and not innovating.

>>14183731
That's less than what Ayama did alone, how isn't that awful?

>from 25k to 31k
holoX funnel to Mikochi

>HoloID vs HoloID

>>14183755
>market leader
You do know that was Nijisanji though

>>14183666
Their subs come from appearing on others stream, so the best way for them is streaming special content + collab on others POV

>>14183773
anon, please, try and keep your numberrot in check

>>14183782
That's a new one kek

>>14183731
45k with how many streamers? over 20? 30? 40?

>>14183581
And then what, become like Chigusa? Polka's slow growth was due to her own fault. Thankfully there's Botan in the group to pick up the slack.

>>14183755
>Niji EN is as successful
What? Has even a single nijien beaten Sana yet?

To be honest Moona should just spam utawaku and nothing else, her talking and gaming suck ass, she gains nothing from them.

>>14183755
NijiEN definitely feels way tighter than NijiJP. At least for now, until 10 more generations are churned out and all of Elira's friends and extended family are in NijiEN

>>14183817
I don't watch gen 5, what did Pola do to screw with her growth?

>>14183610
>>14183448
Anon, numberrot check time, remember even sony vtubers can't consistently get over a hundred CCV, and they themselves are better than most other companies. Even low performing Nijis are doing pretty good.

>>14183639
>Ollie numbers doesn't came from leeching bigger senpai
fucking kek zomcuck how many times she did collab outside the ID again?

>>14183755
kek

>>14183450
Hololive dies the day Cover goes full global financial capitalism because it just means that the chinese will buy them out.

>>14183829
On ccv? I don't think so

>>14182824
My favorite Holo Direct Hit Pineapple

>>14183850
Odd take given her massive incline was linked to a chance encounter while gaming

>>14183864
Depression after Aloe and the janitor incident, couldn't stream regularly until fairly recently. Part of the reason why she did polka densetsu is because she couldn't find time to stream regularly.

>>14183864
Being a menhera and negative Nancy. She was supposed to be the star of the group but Botan took that title.

>>14183864
Polka has a lot of off stream stuff going on. It apparently pays pretty well so don’t worry too much about her

>>14183864

she barely streams compared to her genmates and when she does it's almost always out of nowhere streams with no prior notice (puts a waiting room -> 10/15 minutes left to start)

>>14183782
It's one schizo replying to himself trying to bait others in.
He has been making threads about Ollie surpassing Moona that mostly go unnoticed, because he got hard culled from both /moon/ and the ollie general.
I'm guessing he is hoping he can get some attention here now

>>14183554
>Not even listed Mr.Koro
The disrespect ...

>>14183903
they win morally because since they work harder then holowhores

>>14183963
Kek, I remember him throwing a tantrum because his posts kept getting deleted in /moon/

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>Watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>Each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>Evil God Korone is an event game.
>All non holos are nijis
>muh subs to growth ratio
>I'd rather be popular with casuals in my own country than being viral in some backwater shit place
>Maybe we should compare Hololive proper to Nijisanji and leave gen 3 to themselves.
>Holo growth is bad
>I prefer quality numbers
>Moral victory

>>14184024
Boys, we get a new coep here

>>14184076
way ahead of you bro

>>14183554
>Pekora
>Haato
>Coco
I fucking hate newfags that parrot uninformed and dumb ass opinions as fact like you. Haato was at Australia studying during the boom while Pekora was still confused about her content, Coco came in way later after the boom. Hell, Shion and Aqua with their neighbor war contributed more in the foreigners boom than all 3 of them. Festival, Fubuki, Korone were the one who contributed the most and were clipped the most back when Hololive moment and Cover doing sub comparision at the end of the month were still a thing. Stop parroting shit you don't know about.

>>14183789
Niji never were market leaders in the West. First it was Coco and HoloJP, then HoloEN.

30k for Miko. Where is your Reddit Duck now faggots?

>>14183731
Anon, they are losing subs monthly....

I'm ashamed that I was in the lower number's thread the whole time while there's 400 posts here. That's why I felt it was slow in the other thread.

>14184174
zzzzzzz
She didn't stream today, last stream was Yakuza 0 and peaked at almost 33k

dang, orca sub almost reach kronii numbers now...

>>14183907
Which requires her to interact with Pekora
Which isn't happening anymore because she actually listen to people calling her a leech
She got her exposure
940k subs and 10k viewers is enough for her to grind on and incline if she makes use of her strong point consistently
Utawaku can be used as everyone's second tab too, so even if as ccv it doesn't count it will be converted as total views in the end which increases the chance to be picked up by algo
I don't understand why she doesn't sing very often
I'm following many indies who grind utawaku every other day while having a day job

>>14183789
the difference is that Hololive didn't just imitate nijisanji without innovating.

>>14184182
They are? Who even loses subs on youtube?

The first bloom
>fubuki
>aqua
>choco
>matsuri
The second bloom
>miko
>gen3
>coco
>korone

>>14184118
ogey

>>14183135
>oh no, if this continues the vtuber fanbase might gatekeep away the fanbase of e-girls for no reason whatsoever
>I know, I'll break down the walls. Since they're anonymous they won't feel attacked and they'll just pretend they were on my side all along, there can't be many of them who're that dumb anyway so I'm not really taking a big risk
>...guys?

Another day for hololive with 130k+ total viewers during JP primetime, don't think they've dipped below a 100k peak every day ever since holoX's debut.

>>14182935
Not exactly box pushing but wasn’t the original concept for OTV was so they can collab a lot easier and frequent?

>>14184363
pretty scary how big it's getting honestly

>>14183573
>>14183446
This is where people forget i important and heavy Sora's and FBK's role are. They are basically the two strings that attached the in and out of Hololive. It's seems simple but Sora maintained her perfect appereance all this time before 2020 boom was god given itself, and maintained to provide for the whole "family" alone during 2018 to early 2019 alone by taking in all the sponsors, collabs, events, and tons of other shit and activities untill the kouhais at that time incline and share the weights.
Enter FBK who halven sora's burden and give her some space to breath. Matsuri took a good share too and became an iconic duo with FBK. The trio became the pillar of Holo, then Aqua and gen 2 incline, Enter gen 3 with really good recuit, then gen 4. since then FBK and Matsuri promote unity with the help of gamers inside the group.
2020 when the AzureLane collab brought in the EOPs and hololive peaked in china. FBK as the pillar started the EOPs pandering and follow suit by korone and coco. Coco starting asacoco spreading the EOP pandering more and more, followed by clips gone virals and the rest was history.
>TLDR : Although luck play important part in the miracle that is hololive, their wits and determination to took those lucks and capitilazed the heck out of it while promoting unity and sharing the burden. And the 3 that pinoneering these aspects are the TRUE PILLAR of hololive which is Sora, FBK, and ironically Matsuri.

>>14184240
The reason her utawakus are so popular is because she goes all out in every single one of them. Often over 25 songs when most holos rarely cross 10, and all of them very demanding as she fully sends them.You will neve see moona phone in a karaoke, and I don't think her audience wants that either.
No human can keep thatlevel of intensity over extended periodsof time, so no, what you ask of her is not possible.
Moona is not one of your indies, she takes singing very seriously

>the best number nijisanji got today was 11k

>>14184224
Speaking of the orca, her momentum is dropping faster than kronii's potential. She's at 14K daily subs now, that means even if she kept this 14K daily for a month (unlikely) she wouldn't beat Gura to 1M.

>>14184118
>pic rel.
Suck it

>>14182684
>1 day ago
Watch this
https://youtu.be/KdYYBVXMrQg
https://youtu.be/tuZuJay6oXc
https://youtu.be/jT4BBYKDiDo
https://youtu.be/2xMC2d8P3eU

>>14183135
Hana is a westerner who's currently living in Indonesia. Unfortunately that means she's influenced by sjws and as a result thinks that antagonising her audience for e-clout is a good idea.

>>14184459
Akarichama...

>>14184454
Oh boy I forsee the catalogue being absolutely unbearable over the next few days

>>14184452

Even Kagami mogged Kuzuha...

>>14184465
Her dad is an unironic commie who started spouting his beliefs once on stream.

>>14184224
>Kronii gets 50k subs a month even when not streaming
In a few months Kronii will overtake her again, don't get ahead of yourself