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I've been thinking about it for a while and if you ask me, Hololive fans need to stop jokingly idolizing corporate figureheads and start supporting the talented people Cover exploits.

Hololive should be unionized. Idolizing your boss and romantizing your coworkers as "a family/friends" is not healthy nor leads to a healthy and productive workspace.

But to be honest, I think it would be easier to get the Hololive talents to go independent (i.e. Coco) than to get them to unionize, which is why I hate how obsessed Hololive fans are with hiding the other online identities of the talents. Doing so benefits nobody but Cover.

If you've been looking at the current reactions to Kizuna Ai, then let me just tell you that I'm just waiting for Cover to announce their open world game will have NFTs and for the entire Hololive fanbase to implode afterwards.

>> No.14115993
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14115993

commies ruin everything go back to your vshojo containment thread.

>> No.14116146

Is this a bad thing? All the EOPs without money can finally fuck off and the fanbase will be cleansed.

>> No.14116240

>>14115993
rent free

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>>14116146
So you want a fanbase full of old man that want to rape the talents? Because these types of people are the ones that have the money to spend in superchats.

>> No.14117753

>>14115909
Go back to china u communist.

>> No.14117772

Council already does barely any streaming as it is. I can't imagine how much worse it would be if they were unionized.

>> No.14118608

>>14117663
No, the people with money to superchat are zoomers that bought dogeshitcum coins and made bank. Notice how there's a lot of overlap between /vt/ and /biz/?

>> No.14118642

>>14115909
>Union
>Japan
lmao

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>>14118608
>Memecoins
Haha fuck no, I'm holding >100 shares of GME since this time last year, cost basis in the 30s (and that only due to slurping)

>> No.14118718

>>14115909
This unironically. "This company is a big family" never sits quite right with me. I get why it can be good, but it also makes it much easier for the higher ups to abuse their power with social pressure. It's got to come with the employees having serious leverage to prevent that, and knowing JP companies there's no way Cover has that.
>>14115993
>unions = commie
Burger moment.

>> No.14118841

>>14118694
>Baggies of the world's greatest PnD crosspost between here and /biz/
Somehow I'm not surprised in the slightest

>> No.14118849

>>14118694
Based, I hope you make bank

>> No.14118887
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This board really should've been just /hololive/.
It's the only reason this board is even here now, and your literal who oshis, if given the chance, to act without management and without contractual agreements would just end up being twitter dramawhores, using their avatars to politicize, and general twitch thot niggertry.

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>>14118718
socialism =/= communism moment.
the best of things we're not created by simpering losers who cannot stand on their own but by those who do and those who suceed. pic rel.

>> No.14119488

Reminder that every person that posts ''These girls should just do indie'' don't actually care about the talents, they just want to see hololive fail and lose the spot of glory even if 90% of the girls will go back to the life of sadness they used to have

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socialism =/= communism moment.
the best of things we're not created by simpering losers who cannot stand on their own and do nothing but delay the inevitable but by those who do and those who succeed and show others how its done. pic rel.

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>>14119500

>> No.14121372

>>14115909
Not happening in Japan.

>> No.14121464

>>14118694
I FUCKING KNEEL

>> No.14122383

>>14115909
Never happening. The hatred Japanese have for communists is one thing, but there is also the fact that for the most part, Japan has such strict labour laws that the existence of unions have been rendered unnecessary. This is a country where it's virtually impossible to fire someone unless they have a legal reason (e.g. Hitomi Chris, Artia). The worst they can do is corporate discrimination (aka "Banishment Room" ike what happened to Coco) but that only really works on the ambitious and creative; if you're an ordinary mindless wagie, that doesn't matter as you still get paid.

For the ambitious and freethinking like Coco and Kiara, Hololive is a totalitarian dystopia. But for the vast majority of streamers who just have to do the bare minimum to earn their daily bread, Hololive is the perfect dream job.

>> No.14122523

>>14115909
Considering the talents are basically given free reign to work as hard or little as they want (fucking Ayame has been gone for nearly 2 months and we know she's doing fine) and the work environment according to the girls is extremely nice along with them being able to straight up talk to the CEO directly than I would say their fine without unionizing especially since the talents can theoretically hold the company by their balls by threatening to walk out and ruin their reputation (Fubuki saying she would willingly quit if her trust in Cover is misplaced).

>> No.14122615

>>14122383
Yup, you literally cannot fire someone. Even if they are unquestionably putting you in the red. People don't understand how strict the labor laws are. Your company must be essentially on the verge of bankruptcy and you must show that you've cut your bonuses and pay etc with no other recourse before you can fire anyone if they haven't broken any contractual terms.

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>>14115909
>unions
>in a country where normies would join in on lynching communists
>in a country where firing people is impossible
How retarded are you OP?

>> No.14123942

>Unions: Most famously known for being grossly ineffective, corrupt, bloated, and mismanaged intentionally for maximum embezzlement
>So unappealing that people willing to work normal hours for normal-ish pay are considered "scabs" and met with goons to deal with them
Yea, a perfect addition for Vtubing

>> No.14124119

>>14115909
no, i dont think i care.

>> No.14124122

You made this thread yesterday Now kindly fuck off.

>> No.14124127

>>14123942
>Most famously known for being grossly ineffective, corrupt, bloated, and mismanaged intentionally for maximum embezzlement
Hmm, I wonder why...
Who would possibly benefit from this perception? Perhaps a group with a lot of money to spread it as well?
Who can say...?

>> No.14124600

>>14115909
>unionization across multiple countries

Good luck with that

>> No.14125194

>>14115909
Does the concept of unions even exist in Japan?

>> No.14125225

>>14122383
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about

>> No.14125241

>>14125194
Yes you fucking retard

>> No.14125263

Socialist, communists, and unionfags can suck my dick, but they sucke each other off already anyway.

>> No.14125268

>>14125194
22% of Japanese workforce is unionised, it was higher in the past

>> No.14125323

>>14122383
>The hatred Japanese have for communists is one thing
Japan has biggest not ruling communist party in the world anonchama...

>> No.14125506

>>14125323
>Eating globalist propaganda
Bet you believe in birth rates you baby boomer.

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