/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>14088913
STANDING HERE I REALIZE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M88AJvIJcao

>Orca vs. Shark
>Haachama vs. Darkness

They setting up these rivalries on porpoise or what?

>another windows update

REE WHY ARE THERE SO MANY UPDATES LATELY.

Would be fucking sad if new JP chuuba with debut buff wouldn't get at least twice the audience to her unarchived karaoke.

>[Unarchived karaoke]
What do you think?

None, i hope that both of them will fail.

>>14088913
Gura's fanbase doesn't watch her streams or drop akasupas on her. Gura literally gets mogged by male vtubers and holoJPs. Dead subs gonna keep being dead unless she starts interacting with chat more and building a loyal fanbase.

>>14088913
The aquatic whore

*Mocks your waifu*

>>14089095
Based chaos chad

>>14089069
>porpoise

>>14089069
>not turning off shitdows automatic shitdates

pepelaugh

>>14089115
Which one?

>>14088913
Unarchived english karaoke duh

>>14088913
Chloe. She’s newer and she’s doing an unarchived karaoke that will bring in EOPs, but also not filter JOPs because they like English music even if they don’t speak it.

>>14089208
The one with a retard fanbase

>>14088913

>>14089069
You forgot

>Aqua vs. acting like a normal person

>>14088913
>Gura
>CCV
LMAO

>>14089069
lap has been real quite ngl, is she kneeling to the prowess of haachama raps?

>>14089107
lmao you aren't that big if you have to rely on reading superchats from the creepy people

>>14089239
You're going to have to be more specific than that.

>>14089272
>never streams
>acts like a cunt
>bee bee boo boo

What did she expect? What did the other holos expect? Lots of kvetching about nijien's slow incline upwards but Holoen seems determined to squander their massive advantage over nijisisters who stream more often.

>>14089095
>>14089151
>IVbabbies
your game is easy as shit and the writing was shit. Play a real Chin Megoomi Tensei

>>14089272
Gura averages 17k viewers live. kek
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCoSrY_IQQVpmIRZ9Xf-y93g
She has declined more than any other vtuber in history in relation to sub count. She can't even out-earn her genmates Mori and Kiara because she hasn't built a bond with her chat, she has zero paypigs and her 3 million shrimps don't tune in when she's live.

>>14089279
The one we all wish would go away

>>14089353
>She has declined more than any other vtuber in history in relation to sub count.
Since you obviously know what you are talking about and have the receipts, I would like to see them.

>>14089125
Did he mock someone other than Elira? I hate this guy either way, big Jerma leech.

>>14089353
>She has declined more than any other vtuber in history in relation to sub count
Kizuna Ai

>>14089365
So...both?

>>14088913
Gura would crush in vod views which is the only the statistic that matters in YouTube, even if it wasn't an unarchived karaoke

>>14088913
Thanks for reminding me to watch Chloe!

>>14088913
This is a good thing, the EN girls have been taking their US primetime slots for granted. They'll have to put out good content now or get absolutely robbed of their audience.

>>14089353
No one knows when she's live. She has a worse schedule than Amelia because at least with Amelia people can expect her autism will take over and she'll cancel streams. Gura is the kind of person to randomly decide to stream or randomly cancel a stream 5 minutes before. She's the only one destroying her own brand. Like most Angl*s she doesn't understand why she's successful, she just expects it to remain that way without any effort on her part.

>>14089603
Good. EST prime time sucks as a holobrony.

>>14089353
They hated him for speaking the truth. I haven't seen many chumbuds lately?

>>14089603
>thinking this will be permanent thing
See you in couple of weeks.

>>14088913
maybe the one that won't be archived

>>14089593
Chloe's karaoke is unarchived, so that's a given, lol

>>14088913
GURA IS PLAYING A BUFF GAME

CHLOE WILL LOSE

>>14089733
>buff game
lol what?

Chloe is in this timezone just to farm subs from (you)
Sasuga succubus

>>14089843
I will give her my life. I never felt this towards Gura once.

>>14088913
Chloe, and fuck Gura for not acknowledging gen 6 at all.

>>14088913
100% chloe

>>14089673
they're too busy inhaling copium in their general hugbox

i won't be watching either of them OP

>>14089353
So does Mori do better with views in relation to sub count?
Gura's probably still the biggest money maker in EN tho right?

>>14090386
Why are you asking a shitposter, are you retarded?

>>14089936
>holobronies cares more about the company than the talents

>>14089843
>Haachama streams english karaoke
>nobody bats an eye
>Chloe streams english karaoke
>WHAT A SUCCUBUS SLUT
Why the double standard

>>14089353
I played most Megaten games with english translations except Majin tensei, Smt Nine, Imagine, Jackbros and the original Megami tensei, Smt 2 and Devil Survivor are the best Megaten games btw.

>>14090567
Flavor of the week shitpost target for the underage retards.

>>14090569
who asked

>>14089125
Ludbuds and Chumbuds alliance when

>>14089183
>he thinks that stops the updates
average twitch viewer

>>14089242
based sapling

>>14089936
she said Chole looks like Deadpool

>>14090687
No one and i already know that anon.

>unarchived English karaoke
>New Holo
vs
>Unscheduled stream Gura pulled out of her ass an hour ago
Jeez anon, idk.

Isn't Gura just dead subs? She will get 0 viewers, and the Orca will mog her best numbers by getting 200k live viewers. Screencap this post.

>>14090687
But you listened.

>>14091043
>Unscheduled stream Gura pulled out of her ass an hour ago
pekora does this and still get the number, what is sharkie excuse?

>>14088913
I predict they will both lose to (insert random 2view here)

>>14091227
Gura will get at least one viewer, me. You're BTFO already.

>>14091398
they're competing over higher numbers not lower numbers

>>14091477
They're not even competing, this bullshit is all in the schizo minds of shitposters.

>>14091398
>insert random 2view here
so any nijiEN member

>Chloe is still on debut buff and is doing a stream that everyone can like
>Gura is long past that debut buff and is doing a debuff stream
Chloe wins today, ask again in 3 months when her audience is better established

>>14090567
No, people did actually hate on Haachama for pandering a lot. She did English week remember?

You can always watch the Gura thing later, unarchived English karaoke by a brand new JP Holo is gonna be a big draw. Suisei got a ton when she did hers and even Haachama and Coco got significantly above their averages even though they did them a lot.

>>14089083
Chloe knows what she's doing. Surprising that she's baring her fangs this early.

Eurobros.... We lose either way :(

>>14091310
She doesn't, she has an actual predictable schedule, if she's playing Pokemon she will stream pokemon. If Gura plays DMC she might not even stream it again for a few weeks (this is her main problem)

>>14091749
>2AM
not much tho

>>14091641
Yeah and no one was complaining that she was pandering. There was shitposting but not about pandering

>>14091749
>Eurobros
you lost at birth

>>14091895
Same with the current shit posting, except back then there was no /vt/ where there can be massive bait threads

Gura will still have more vod views
That's the most important indicator of popularity

>>14090567
Probably because Haachama’s English schtick dates back before EOP pandering was a viable strategy

hopefully the fucking vietnam shits stop shitting up my cute shark wife's chat for once

>>14091634
I'm from the future and I have bad news for you.

>>14091977
No. I thank god every day for not being born in America.

>>14091995
no shit

If you give a fuck about this, please seriously re-evaluate your life.

>>14088938
YOU ARE JUST LIKE ME

>>14091749
Why do Europeans always feel the need to announce themselves?

Me, I will get more views

>>14092230
TRYING TO MAKE HISTORY

>>14092248

Why do Amerisharts always say shit like "I'm 1/64tH IrIsH, 1/4 GeRmAn, 1/2 iTaLiAn!!!"?

>>14092248
they're insanely narcissistic.

>>14092091
I have no horse in this race, you can't have bad news for me for this I'm merely stating the facts

>>14092398
True. But at least we are not American.

>>14092248
In a sea of disgusting Americans you have to let your other euros know you are clean.

>>14090567
>one of the only JP members with passable English who has been speaking English in her streams for years has a karaoke with English songs

>>14088913
OH SHIT THE FINAL BATTLE, GURA KILLER VS GURA

TANOSHIMIDANA!

>>14089083
She want to kill the shark for real

SCHEDULES BROKEN
THE TRUTH GOES UNSPOKEN
WHICH SCHIZO RRAT IS THERE TO BLAME

MY OSHI IS PREGNANT
ON ANTIDEPRESSANTS
I'M CRYING AND SCREAMING HER NAME

A FEELING OF DREAD
MY PAIRING IS DEAD
IT'S ONLY THE (You)S THAT I FEEL

MY MENTAL STATE'S TOAST
AS I SIT DOWN AND POST
THE VOICES IN MY HEAD, I KNEEL

THERE WILL BE SHIT THREADS
I FORGOT TO TAKE MY FUCKING MEDS

THERE ARE NO PILLS LEFT
THE ANTIS RENT-FREE IN MY HEAD

BECAUSE THE SEANIGS ALL FLING SHIT WHEN THEY WAKE
OH NO
THERE WILL BE SHIT THREADS
IT'S THE ONLY THING I'VE EVER KNOWN

LOSING ALL MY SANITY
WONDERING HAVE I GONE INSANE
TO FIND THE TRUTH IN FRONT OF ME
SHE JUST TWEETED, "I'M OKAY"
SCROLLING UPWARD THROUGH THIS GARBAGE THREAD
I DELETE MY POSTS AND HANG MY HEAD

>>14091427
Me too. I'll help you save Gura.

>>14089936
She did. The first to react in Pokemon stream. Also said Chloe looks like Venom later.

>>14091427
>>14092870
Me too ! This make three of us

>>14091995
Cope

>>14089069
>>Haachama vs. Darkness
>"rivalry"
>he hasn't noticed
Bro every debut haachama makes a video about whoever is making the most traction to ride that view train. Remember when she started going on and on about chaos when everyone thought Baelz was gonna be the standout of council? Then Kronii blew her out of the water and suddenly she forgot the whole "chaoschama" shit and started just saying Kronii's name randomly all the time?

>>14093134
I don’t think Haachama ever cared much about baelz. It’s always been Kronii because Haachama likes fat clock tits

>>14093134
>haachama is a leech
>she goes long periods without streaming and treats it like a hobby
>but I swear she's a 35D leech positioning herself to take over hololive, trust me

Go be schizo somewhere else.

>>14093134
Sadly anon, this goes to show that you don't actually watch streams but parrot what others say while occasionally watching her short videos.
Baelz and mumei dropped by in her unarchived stream too, is that them riding their view train of their senpai?
Seriously this while thing about haachama "leeching" is just the most boring shitpost you can come up with about her.
You can do better anon

>>14089069
>on porpoise

>>14090553
>nijibronies think what they have to say matters

OP never heard of debut buffs?
Hell Kronii and Irys beat Gura in her timeslot with it too, let alone someone vastly more popular than both.

>>14089936
She was literally the first one to react since she was streaming during their announcement. Y'all looking for stuff to get mad about sometimes.

>>14092304
I believe in you

>>14089074
Haha Chumfags already lowering expectations. Understandable Guras last stream above 30k was unarchived Karaoke and she struggles to break 20k on anything else.

>>14093638
I mean it's the truth. New Holo doing big numbers is hardly a crazy take, nor is JP getting more live views compare to US.

>>14093638
chumbuds hate that karaoke stream though

>>14095103
Why?

>>14095251
too memey, trash mic and she has done two mediocre karaoke streams before it

Gura BTFO, a new shiny toy has come to town

i don't think chloe would schedule english singing without checking en schedule for overlaps first

So this means gura scheduled on top of chloe to attack her timeslot?

>>14096338
Gura SCHEDULE to attack Chloe with her buff game

>>14096338
>He thinks JP knows what EN is doing
Kanata wasn't even allowed to DM myth until a few months ago.
In any case, this is Gura's regular time slot so it isn't a surprise at all

>>14096338
>implying Chloe gives a fuck about HoloEN

>>14096338
Gura barely checks her own schedule

This is the absolute best outcome, Chloe SHOULD be mogging Gura. Gura is a trash vtuber who only got """popular""" because Hololive was already booming due to the main JP Holos, and was part of the first EN side branch with all the hype surrounding it. But time already showed that Gura doesn't actually give two fucks about vtubing and her fanbase with the zero effort dogshit she's been shitting out. Chloe has been doing the hustle with maximum effort worthy of her place in the main branch. A true Holo should win over a second-rate "holo" like pedo bait shark, it's just fate.

>>14096671
Gura gets mogged by half of the JP branch every week, she doesn't have good CCV

>>14096338
>her timeslot
This is the stupidest shit I have ever read in week

>>14096671
>true holo
>girl that fakes literally every single thing she says and does
Also, how is Gura supposed to not be mogged when this is an unarchived karaoke and they can't use their VOD views cope?

>>14096926
This. I know they play a role but Chloe feels far too fucking cynical to me. Like someone went through to see what traits they needed to have to pull the most and just adopted them

>>14089593
Prove it.
P.S. hypotheticals aren't proof

>>14088913
>Comparing saturday evening stream to sunday morning stream
I believe we talked about this, OP.

>>14096338
This is Gura timeslot, anon

>>14088913
Is she the only JP next to suisei that sings english songs?
inb4
>cant pronounce any of the english properly
Suisei can by the way since shes a professional singer.

>>14092314
BUT WHO'S TO JUDGE

>>14097284
You can still clearly tell she's not a native speaker, but sheer SEX in her voice makes that irrelevant.

>>14090569
>plays pedobait games
>watches pedobait vtubers
Congrats anon, you are on a watchlist

>>14095103
Fuck off, Chumbies love the Dino Karaoke.

>>14097284
retard doesn't know suisei read furigana. Why are (clipfag hoshiyomi) like this

IDC I'm seeing this

>>14097410
do they use furigana for romaji too? i thought it was just for kanji

time for shark to get mogged

>>14092792
I can't find this anywhere else, so if you actually did write this, rest assured that I think you're pretty based anon.
And if you just copied it, I still do but in a lesser magnitude.
This OST will live rent free in my head and I don't mind.

>>14097410
And you never listened to suisei sing. She doesnt drop the rike on like when singing english songs and similar shit the nips do

>>14097435
Based sapling bro, same here

>>14088913
If we are to base it on prechat numbers. Chloe is leading. Are you ready chumkeks?

>>14090386
Mori makes the most money out of all EN, be it superchats and music streams

>>14096338
I'm not even sure how many of you orca shizos are just falseflaggers or actually retarded anymore. She isn't even a week old and I'm already tired of it.

>>14097619
Literally nobody not even the most delusional chumcuck believes that Gura can beat JPs in live viewers.

>>14089353
>She has declined more than any other vtuber in history in relation to sub count

I'd love to see you prove this. but i know you're trolling so i won't bother asking for proof.

We need completely even conditions. Unarchived karaoke orca vs. unarchived karaoke shark.

>>14097750
Is that why gura holds the record with her karaoke streams of 160k live viewers pr her outfit reveal of 200k
Nipswho lol

OH NYOOOOO

Gura wants to lose. She never wanted to be the most popular, the face of hololive, or the face of vtubing.

ez chloe dub

>more than 3 million subs
>no one wants to watch when she streams
I legit feel bad for Gura. She does have talent and can be good when she has chemistry with another Holo. It's a shame she didn't take advantage of her popularity last year and already became irrelevant before even getting her 3D.

>>14097961
>>14097968
Fame was shoved on to her and she didn't want it.

Don't care, watching Fauna

>check numbers thread
>she might cap at 30k max
>close numbers thread

>>14097968
That's why she joined the hottest vtubing company at the time she did instead of staying indie and having no contract and having less restrictions. Your post is pure cope.

>>14098039
She's too inconsistent with her streams and constantly calls off streams. She also ghosts her members without any updates for several days.

Stick to japanese retard

>>14089125
Ludwig is cringe and Ludwig fans should kill themselves

>>14098122
She joined hololive because she needed structure and wanted to make friends. I swear all the numberfag "chumbuddies" are just trolls that don't watch the streams.

This thread us only about who has the most obnoxious fans

Cumbuckets kneel

>>14098347
chloe at 45k now. What is gura at?

>>14097333
THE RIGHT FROM WROOOOONG

Well we found out who the worst singer in holox is, how is she worse than Iroha?

>>14098347
orca is ruthless
even started a bit earlier to snatch up the viewers

>>14098122
Not him but I think hololive isnt that famous before EN. This is me speaking as someone who only got into during Myth debut.

The shark FEARS the orca.

>>14098347
I just ended my membership to Gura, patiently waiting for Orca's membership to open.

>>14098450
wrong bud, pekora made hololive become a thing

Chloe - 56k
Gura - 13k

What happened to the number thread?

>>14098549
is this what rape looks like?

>>14098312
You have no proof of everything you're claiming, it's all just schizo headcanon.
>s-she doesn't want to be famous!
She would have stayed indie then, without needing to be restricted under a company. She also specificially applied for Hololive instead of the less popular agencies.

>she joined hololive because she needed structure
She never said or implied this, this is just you making up your headcanon.

>wanted to make friends
If you aren't a total newfag you would know she would always stream with other people. When she was a streamer she already had friends (before Hololive)

Stop making shit up, especially since Gura's actions contradict your statements.

>>14098568
refresh catalog anon

>>14089125
>26k
Kek midget number

>>14098450
Hololive was still the most popular vtuber group before EN

>>14098549
Poseidon, gura don't feel so good

>>14098486
HhahahaHAHAhaHAAHah

>>14098122
>joined the hottest vtubing company at the time
nta, but Hololive was I think the only vtubing company extending with an EN branch, and vshojo I dont think existed as a company at the time. Also just because you join Hololive doesnt mean you will get views as much as Gura, or any other top holo does. From all the times people asked if they would be successful as an EN branch, they expected to do about as well as the ID branch at most.

>>14098450
>hololive isnt that famous before EN
Actually it was. Coco, Pekora and Rushia were making huge bank and Hololive was the hottest agency to the western audience, which was the audience that gave the most subscribers. Korone around the myth debut was so famous, normalfags on facebook were literally sharing memes of her and big name youtubers were referencing her. I fucking HATE newfags like you. I despise you faggots so much because you all need a history lesson just to have a conversation.

>>14089107
>best superchat earners earn around 100k/mo
>of which they keep 60k after youtube cut
>of which they keep 30k after parent company cut (except for kson)
>gura with 30k'ish members
>members paying min of $5/mo (some paying 10)
>earning 150k / mo in memberships
>earning 90k / mo after youtube cut
>earning 55k / mo after holo cut
>wonders why gura doesn't care about superchats when she makes 2X /mo what kazuha makes from her memberships alone.

the top superchatted vtube in 2021 was coco/kson followed closely by pekora, both made about 2mil in 2021 in superchats, kson/coco took in a mil+ in superchats. pekora took in less then a mil (close to 600k), due to being with cover the whole year.

Gura cleared somewhere around 600-700k in memberships (after youtube/cover's cut); not to meantion she made another 300k from superchats (after cover/youtube's cut). Its not known pekora's membership game, or ksons; but to the best of my knowledge neither do anything membership worthy for people to pony up for one (neither are good enough singers to entice people that way, and maybe kson showing her ass live is enough but i somehow doubt it) and from the best of my knowledge neither have a real membership game to speak of.

so why would gura bother with superchats when she's likely making more or the same amount as pekora and kson without them?

>>14098423
>singing a language she doesnt know

no shit shes good at JP singing

OH NO NONO NO THE GAP, GURA HAS BEN KILLED KURO GIRA KILLER

gura sucking at numbers in game while her numbers suck
it can't get any better than this

Cover wanted to show their japanese superiority so they brought the orca to get their throne back from the shark's fins.

I kneel.

What's going on in here? Where are my Orcabros at?

My god, the orca is such a numberfag she asks the viewers to subscribe the most out of everyone in hololive.

>>14098312
you just now realize all of the numberfagging, company tribalism and "the X killer" are shitposts? Look at the OP, the only ones caring about viewer count, even within the same company are shitstirring trolls, no actual fan cares.
It's the same shit as consoles wars
>the Wii is the PS2 killer
>oh no no nintenkeks???
>actually according to sales etc. (in this case viewers/subscribers)

>>14098646
holy shit you don't even count as a clipfag

https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1437247890636877827

>newly debuted person singing in english
vs
>gura playing a game that most people aren't interesting in

you guys are just a bunch of gossiping women and numberniggers

wow I can't believe gura got lower numbers than a popular jp
it's not like this happens literally every day
this totally warrants a 200 replies thread

>>14098861
I love the tears of chumkeks lmao

>>14099058
Bend over cumbuddy. I need to teach you a lesson.

>>14099056
Facts

>>14098769
Reminds me of Mia khalifa, she just thought it was just sex and money, then somehow she fucking blew up and her family muslim disowned her.

Well I don't know about anons but I am watching my cute orca wife singing engrish songs

>>14091749
It's fucking SATURDAY, don't tell me you went to sleep?!

What the fuck is she doing? Is she making fun of english or something?

>>14098545
Did pekora even have a thing that blew up? I think its mostly fubuki and korone. Even before EN, I already know fbk. I am talking about who bought the casual fans.

>>14098656
So nijiniggers lied to me all along?

>>14098796
I know about the existence of hololive but I am not gonna pretend to know japanese and watch girls autistically screaming.

Chumcucks... It's over...

>>14099101
cope and seethe fagot.

>>14098958
With the upcoming vacuum of power on Feb 26, the throne is a free for all battle royale.

>>14088913
It's going to be 40-50k vs 20-25k.

>>14092792
https://vocaroo.com/1WuBEdkkmof4

>>14099140
yes pointing out a commonly known fact about gura's shit numbers is being a chumsharty
your IQ must be almost four digits to reach such an insane conclusion
next time make a thread about how pekora gets good numbers, that will completely shake the board

>>14099371
she won't hit 20k lmao

>>14099289
english suck retard

This is orca's timeline. She's putting things back into motion. Cumbuds were looking at the abyss and now the abyss is looking back at them.

They can't escape. It's over.

>>14099145
Remind us how many viewers gura had on her karaoke streams then.

How do we save her?

Orca eat shark

>>14099312
Cumbud bros... how do we cope?

>>14099483
20-30k at best
shark btfo

LMAO THE ABSOLUTE MOGGING THIS IS A GREAT DAY

I'm not even a cumbud but unarchived karaoke streams always have way higher numbers than normal gaming streams, for anyone nevermind a newly debuted JP signing english songs in NA primetime

>>14099483
Her first few karaokes after debut, she got 100k+.

>>14099483
I recall at least one Gura karaoke around 130k fairly early on.

>>14099345
What happens on Feb 26th?

>>14099555
You are a sad pathetic loser

>>14099297
what?!?! she had more than anyone ever, her laughing alone made millions new viewers..

Hololive may promotes other livers,
but Pekora who is the one promotes hololive

>>14099312
>>14099532
We can't. It's over.

It's all over.

>>14099532
G-Gura will stop being lazy and start caring again r-right copium

>I'm bad orca
Rumao she's stealing her bad shark gimmick

>>14099511
Wait for Orca's stream to end.
If it was an archived jp only, 30k to 20K.
But it's unarchived and it's EN songs so... Yeah.

>>14099571
Holy mother of cope
This is why everyone hates cumbuds lmao

>>14099596
Ai's graduation

>>14099596
Kizuna ais chink voice replacement graduates

>>14099337
You are the one seething chumkek. Look at your wall of text lmao. And what do I have to cope for? Orca is killing shark as we speak.

>>14099587
>>14099589
those were inflated ccv numbers before the nerfed numbers we have, 60k now is 120k then.

>>14099794
cope

>>14099793
I want to rape her mouth so badly.

>>14099602
I was talking about the azurlane collab, where they started getting famous around time. The slowly catching the eyes of the EOP and even the Chinese (before taiwan yab).

>>14099794
>i-it doesn't count because i say so

>>14099768
are you listening to the orca?

she's a mediocre to poor singer at best. those numbers are just a new holo bump.

>>14099587
Her best Karaoke had around 67k live viewers max. But please prove me wrong.

>>14099947
Chumbuds have been using that excuse for why Pekora mogs Gura every single week for months now though? Is the cull real or not, make up your minds

>>14099964
no, her first karaoke was like 100+k people at it's peak.

>>14099953
>>14099532
This is how

>fresh new waifu for starving japanese fanbase
>not over 100k for unarchived karaoke

ngmi

>>14099953
Holy cope.
Gotta listen to ma cuntry folk from da texus singin da song from da road yee haw

>>14100152
HAHahahahahHAHhaH

>>14100097
That was her second one, the first one wasn't as hyped up because people didn't know she was that good at singing.

>>14100104
dude, listen to her. she's adorable, but she's pure ina-botan tier singer.

>>14100097
NTA, other anon asked for proof. That's not proof.

>>14099953

>>14100097
>No proof
Ogey bro I am gonna trust you.

>>14099953
Coping again rumao cumbuds it's really all over

>aujum a bauwld guwrl
Stick to japanese

PWEASEEEEE SABSCRAIWBBB

>"guys subscribe"
I swear this orca is the thirstiest holo for subs.

>who will get more views
is this a question people are actually taking seriously or is anyone seriously wondering whether the new shiny toy doing an unarchived karaoke stream is going to get more views than a holo playing a random game?

So how much longer until she finishes pumping and dumping the hot overseas guys?

Still mad.

>streaming at the same time as the fabled Gura who pulled 100k on her unarchive
>still beating her by a huge margin
What happened? I thought she was supposed to be unbeatable at any streams

https://twitter.com/kenbolido/status/1327076223613243392
do you guys know how to google?

>This slut that can't sing is mogging the shit out of le pedo shark
>Cumchud cope reaching critical mass

>>14100326
I love her so much

>>14100440
Something something vod views copium

>>14100326
she's a pure numberwhore, who puts pekora to shame. her shameless numberfagory will kill her in a few months.

and dear god she's an awful singer.

>>14100326
she's ruthless numbers orca, planned her karaoke at prime gura hours too to steal unfaithful chumbuds

>new holo member
>less than 100k live viewers
hololive is dead

>>14100440
WTF? DO U EVEN KNOW PEKORA?

>>14100326
Based. Nice to have someone with a bit of ambition and drive

>>14100440
>4 TIMES BETTER
4 TIMES BETTER
>4 TIMES BETTER
4 TIMES BETTER
>4 TIMES BETTER
4 TIMES BETTER

>>14100440
I dont know much about elementary school math but I think the number 59000 is less than 100000

>>14100440
Gura's been beat many times though, how fucking new are you?

>>14100440
This is what happens when you treat your fanbase like shit

>>14100584
Can't wait to this cuckpedo cope every single day for 6 months now as their shit oshi reclines and laugh at them.

>>14100326
Holo xNumberfag gen. Please undahstahd

>>14100583
listen to chloe screaching is making my ears bleed. this girl is fucking tone deaf to the point her autotune can't fix it. I was kind saying she was ina-botan tier singer.

Dear God.
It's not unarchived because it's EN songs. It's unarchived because she sounds like a drying whale.

>>14100501
Yes, yes give me more. More Chumcuck seethe. Lazy Shark is second string now, deal with it.

pekora boring stream : 30k - 40k
pekora actual average quality stream: 50k -70k
pekora tries to do actual content : 100k+

>>14100326
And I love her for this.
If you want to maximize growth, you should do it while you have your debut buff.

...

>>14100707
you don't really think chloe's gonna maintain 60k viewers on every one of her streams right? at most I'd see her getting pekora numbers after the honeymoon phase is over. fucking kronii managed to get 30k viewers on her streams during her first week.

>>14100583
Gura could pull those numbers with 1 of her fingers if she wanted to. She is just hiding her real power level because she is a team player not a try hard.
She could get 200k with her next unarchived fart stream. She is just playing nice.

>>14100501
Have you heard any of the other JPs sing in English? Lol.

>>14100707
You mean how she struggles to get 20k viewers on her first content/gaming streams? Damn HoloX dont dissappoint us yet its only been a week

>>14100326
All according to keikaku

>>14100818
>>14100870
I don't even give a shit about chloe, I'm just here to watch the shit shark getting mogged. Literally anyone will do.

Chumnigger cope in copious amounts right now kek, it's glorious.

>>14100856
Gotta milk the EN bros while you have their attention.

>>14100818
she never once stream at the same time with pekora and gained higher number even with debut buffs lol.

>>14091739
she been streaming as indies for 3 years.She know what she's milking the hype wave.Gotta respect the sigma grindset

>>14100820
This is a whole new level of cope, you could beat a lot of wojak with this

>Gura plays a boring game for pre-schoolers, pulls in 18k
>new holo holds first unarchived kareoke; pulls in 60k
>mouthbreathing schitzos "cope and seethe cumcucks, shark is done!"

it's like clockwork.

>>14100941
chumbuds on suicide watch in /ggg/

>>14100818
The thing is you need to put actual effort into retaining viewers with a consistent streaming schedule. Kronii didn't do that. Orca will so I expect she'll have much better viewer retention. Council is just lazy, it's not a foregone conclusion that the new gen will be sub 10k in a few weeks if they work hard.

>>14100936
Embarrassing cope. At least try to rebuke anything lol

>60K
HERE WE GOOOO

>>14100856
>Have you heard any of the other JPs sing in English? Lol.
suisei is pretty good in english.

Why didn't Enna have the superchats active today?

>>14101014
copium

>>14101032
10k is lucky.
Niji Numbers is what I'm thinking.

>>14100818
I don't even watch orca
I just want to lick cumbuds tear lmao

Don't mind me just taking a pic of cumkeks being BTFO'D.

>>14101014
speaking of numbers, what would the percentages be of those who say "X is finished/washed up and should be graduated"
65% shitposters and 35% actual mentally ill?

>>14100756
so true, kiss me on the mouth

conclusion, 100% of anyone fans from hololive after 3rrd gen are 100% pekora's.. which also mean like 20-30% only

>>14100267
>>14100272
KNEEL

>>14101110
She's really not. She's trying way too hard and does it 100% seriously which makes it borderline cringe-worthy to listen to.

>>14101297
COPIUM

>>14101297
>ar
HAHAHAhahahahaHAHah

>>14101297
Coco, Pekora, I'm pretty sure Kuzuha mogged these numbers too.

>>14100936
>>14101164
i genuinely don't give a shit about either of them, but i'm dumbfounded at the shit these anons are saying
>gura's hiding her power level, she can easily pull 30k viewers if she tried (despite her consistently having 17k average viewers for months now)
>chloe's clearly showing how irrelevant gura is by pulling more viewers than her (during a special stream during honeymoon phase, nevermind that gura practically pulled the same during her own first karaoke)
numberfagging brings out the retard inside of everyone. and yeah yeah "where do you think we are" but jesus it's still apalling

>>14101297
>using old ccv numbers pre debuff
copium

>>14101297
yes i can also inspect element. good job hacker-kun.

>>14101336
You didnt listen to a single song Suisei sung.

>>14101393
Kazuha is a MENACE tho
We expect that

>>14101297
N-NO! THAT DOESN'T COUNT! BECAUSE REASONS! SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>14101297
>covid + debut buff
chumbud copium. Your oshi is still top dog in Holo, no need to be so insecure that orca is showing her up right now kek

>>14101014
cope

>>14101367
>>14101367
>>14101377
>>14101393
>>14101414
>>14101423
Cope, your orca is still below gura. Gura's karaoke will always be number 1.

>>14101446
You've never watched a vtuber at all in your entire life.

>>14101297
Who care about enshaek whore
Atleast orca sings better than her

This face sends chummies into eternal rage.

>>14088913

>>14101509
>Your oshi is still top dog in Holo
Gura wasn't even a top dog ever. Just because she's the most subscribed Holo doesn't mean she's top dog Holo when she's getting mogged by Pekora every time the rabbit streams.

>>14088913
60k vs 17k
chumfags cope

>inaudible engrish
>just singing engrish songs that she likes
>just singing them for fun, clearly not well practiced to perfection
>pulling 61k beating the shark that practiced the song she prepared for her unarchive's current numbers
She's just too powerful, she didn't even need to tryhard to pull numbers. She's literally perfect, she's not even trying to sing seriously.

>>14101529
Enjoy the start of a new tradition, this cope will show up literally every day from now on. Cope harder, chumcucks

>debut buff
chloe debuted a week ago

>>14101633
Chumbuds on suicide watch.

>>14101509
>>covid + debut buff
So Chloe?

why is there 2 numbers threads

Does this bitch stop asking me to subscribe or not? I'm already subscribed.

>>14101633
6x subs, 1/3 viewers
How many dead subs does Gura have?

pureazu sabuscraibu

>>14101267
knowing this site it's probably 100% both. most shitposters are mentally ill.

>preeease shubsukribe
Damn she wants numbers
>preeease join is next

>>14101795
Every JP member does it frequently in Japanese.

>>14101297
>1M subscribers at that time
>only 100k
>Chloe already at 61k viewers while 530k subscribers
Half of her subscribers back then and already like this? Imagine if she gets to 1M, Gura would just graduate out of shame.

GO GURA GO!!

Stop begging for subscribers, bitch

>>14101678
shark's latest karaoke have sucked hard too, she's declined, even chumbuds talk about it

This shitflinging is so retarded, but I can't stop laughing.

>>14101951
Orckeks on suicide watch.

>>14101678
dude, she's a mediocre Japanese singer and so offtune with English her autotune can't even save it.

her karaokes will never hit these numbers again

HoloEN is dead.

>3.6mio subs
>Losing in live viewers
Dead subs are real.

people number fagging, but forget Gura easily pulled the record before Coco's grad and lets be honest its Coco's grad.

Hit me back once Chloe reaches like 142 iirc the number correctly.

>>14101678
ALL KNEEL TO ORCA!!!!

>>14101795
AhahHAhaHA MAN , the pure entertainments are at 4chan all along

>>14101938

>>14102076
yeah that's how youtube works

>>14101938
She is already struggling to get 20k viewers on her normal streams. Holox other than la+ is dead. Not even going to go into Luis or Irohas

>>14102114
That's why I'm here.
I love you schizos.

HOLY MOGGING

>>14101951
Oh no sharkeks are now editing images to cope with reality...
It's truly and unequivocally, all over

>>14102227
Is finance fresh or salt water?

>>14101795
Believe it or not there are a huge amount of normalfags who just never subscribe even if they watch the streams. Why do you think those endurance streams to X subs keep working no matter how high they get. Telling them to click the fucking button is the only way to get them to actually sub.

>>14102063
>never hit these numbers again
Reminds me of a certain shark honestly

サメの時代は...終わりだ

Damn, orca is done with the stream. Are there any other good vtubers streaming right now?

Orca is doing an English singing stream at 10am in the morning. The orca is a JP streamer and still beats the shark.

>>14102590
Fauna

>>14102590
Irys and Sora have a collab in 2 hours

>>14102199
Watching schizos shit fling at each other whether it's number faggotry, tribal faggotry, or rrat pedaling ends up being more entertaining than any vtuber stream. Wasn't even planning on watching either of these streams but the mess going on here is too good

>>14102613
it is sunday man, 10 am sounds so perfect.

>>14102613
She's literally streaming during EN prime time during an english karaoke, she knows what she's doing

6k chumbuds were cheating on gura and were watching orca until she ended then went back lol

>>14102752
god i wish i was like you, seeing this level of retardedness just makes me angry. i still stick around because i'm apparently too retarded myself as well.

Thread is dead. Chumbuds won. No debate.

>>14102894
I'd probably pick unarchived too desu.

>>14102590
Koyori stream in 4 mins anon

>>14101787
>ignore the cancer, and just let it do its own thing
>it starts spreading and getting worse, because that's what cancer does
Shocking.

ok, this thread is pure stupidity.

first of all, childs game with a streamer with over a year under her belt vs a new and adorable vtuber streaming a karaoke.

secondly, live view counts are~ unreliable~ when comparing live view counts from EN to JP, youtube no longer counts anyone using an adblocker as a live viewer, and it's known japanese viewers don't use adblockers. (this has been proven statistically in numberfag threads too many times to count) As a sidenote; it's still unknown if VOD numbers are affected by adblockers or not, so take those with a spoon of salt as well.

third; chloe is adorable and deserves the attention she's getting, her beating other streamers just prove, for now, she's the most interesting thing on youtube. this doesn't mean any other streamer is "dead" or "declining" it just is a testament to chloe, the current star of gen6.

Finally, Chloe doing something good doesn't mean watson, gura, pekora or anyone else out there is doing badly. I had chloe and gura's streams open at the same time. oh no! ended up closing chloe's stream because frankly she's a really bad singer (for English language songs). does this mean chloe is going to crash and burn? nope. does this mean gura fans are coping and seething? nope. not even a gura fan, I am subbed to botan. Love that lion. doesn't mean i don't watch other vtubers.

>>14102625
>good vtubers
>Fauna

>>14103229
Konkoyo~

>>14103245
wish i had your copium supply chumkek

>>14102136
>She is already struggling to get 20k viewers on her normal streams.

she's already over 20k playing a game for preschoolers. find another narrative.

>>14103245

>>14101529
>Haha nobody can get 116k to their stream like Gura did for unarchived karaoke in November 2020

>Nooooo using CCV is unfair Youtube changed the algorithm so it culls too many viewers since December 2020.

Pick one chumcuck

>>14103245
Lmao
This cumbuds coping
Cry more

>>14103350
yea once the orca ended

>>14103350
She got her viewers after Chloe ended. Kek.

>>14103245
Go back

>>14103446
this confirms chloe has 1/4 of gura's followers in her grasp already
deadly orca

>>14103460
Gura's the one getting pity views now. How the times have changed.

>>14103350
I was talking about Chloe retard. Gura isnt part of holox

>>14103245
Chloe is a fake numberwhore, she deserves nothing

>>14103418
>>14103446
over 22k now. playing a child's game.

>>14103529
Meant for >>14103446

Chumbuds, we lost....

>>14103661
im nousagi sry.

Orca bros we are winning!
Together we will be the best fanbase

>>14103245
Why are you here, anon? Like, why would you read the absolute shitfest that is this thread, and think that your input would be appreciated by these retards? This entire thread is literally just samefagging falseflagging shitposters arguing with themselves. Your time would be better spent doing literally anything else.

>>14103689
I'm a chumguts and a Nousagi but combined. What should I be called?

>>14102752
This is the only reason to unironically stay on this site.

>gura hits 20k
She's inclining

But seriously, there were still 17k chumbies watching Gura during the karaoke, I admire your loyalty buds.

>>14104637
Finally Gura can get mediocre numbers..

>>14093330
when she runs out of money she just comes back to leech from others again and post some of her shit schizo videos that people eat up. She is already stopping to post videos once again too.

>>14101938
thats... the almost same percentage of viewers...