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Be honest, how many subs would she have if she was in Hololive?

>> No.13972224

>>13972210
Probably 1.5-2 million. Selen would be at 2 million.

Unfortunately she has the niji debuff

>> No.13972240

Holomyth? More than Kiara, less than Gura.

>> No.13972249

Guys gals and nonbinary pals

>> No.13972255

>>13972210
Despite what you may delude yourself into believing, your nijiwhores would be at best council tier even if they were in hololive.

>> No.13972269

the same number of fat cocks you've had splurting into your mouth
so probably, like, a lot

>> No.13972275

>>13972210
Literally anyone who debuts in Hololive at this point is guaranteed 1 million subs within the first year. It could even be you, anon.

>> No.13972358

>>13972275
Anya....

>> No.13972375

>>13972275
sana...

>> No.13972523

>>13972249
How nice of her to remember about Kronii's gender orientation

>> No.13972548

>>13972275
Ankimo...

>> No.13972683

>>13972210
Kiara level. Gachashit never gets you far.

>> No.13972698
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13972698

My oshi respects my pronouns. I don't give a fuck about what some moron on 4chan thinks or calls me.

I have my oshi by my side, and because of that, I am unstoppable.

>> No.13972840

>>13972210
The downside is she and most of the NijiEN girls wouldn't stream nearly as much as they do now. Holo branding leads to complacency really fast for many western women.

>> No.13972896

>>13972698
based tranny

>> No.13973017

If she debuted with council? Probably around 400k. The Irys debut really sucked a ton of hype out of a new generation.

>> No.13973021

>>13972210
Considering Hololive rules she would be just as boring as the council members. Im happy their not in hololive, fuck purity fags

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>>13972224
The funny part is that you actually believe this

>> No.13973243

>>13973017
The day delay on debuts was a bigger impact than that. A real deflater on what was meant to be the hype event.

>> No.13973288

>>13972224
Kek stop falseflagging, nijifags can’t be this retarded.

>> No.13973544

>>13972698
You do you, you non-binary thingy.

>> No.13973605

>>13972275
There are old ass JPs that don't have 1m yet

>> No.13973699

>>13972249
Is she a genderspecial?

>> No.13973701

All niji girls would have over 500k by now easily, even Petra would be considered a success, holobronies would find her cute etc despite her not being the best streamer (I still like her, she's just objectively the weakest as a pure entertainer). It would be classic mumei effect - no matter how shit the content is, if the avatar is cute, people will eat it up and ask for more.

>> No.13973763

>>13973701
mumei is failing like the rest of her gen

>> No.13973841

who?

>> No.13974025

>>13972210
She would have been a much better fit than any EN2 to be honest.

>> No.13974064

>>13973605
>jp
kek

>> No.13974235

>>13972698
Disgusting. I forgot she enables pronoun deranged retards.

>> No.13974299

>>13972210
A lot. She speaks jap, sings well, and streams forever.

>> No.13974360

>>13972698
Based, chuds need to leave our otaku spaces alone. Fags have been a staple of otaku culture since the first comiket.

>> No.13974472

>>13973017
Prove it.

>> No.13974576

2, not even her genmates would follow her in Hololive

>> No.13974900
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>>13972210
Depends whether she debuted during or after myth.
During myth she would have been second only to Gura, who's design is kid friendly which is part of why she flew to the top like that. She'd easily mog Mori in singing and is a better gamer than Ina, so I'd say around 1.5-2 mil subs.
Post myth, good singing and long streams would rise her to Irys' level, but seeing as Irys had the model debuff, it wouldn't be a stretch to say she'd surpass her.

>> No.13975003

>>13974360
What does that have to do with "respect my pronouns?"

>> No.13975029

>>13972210
Don't care mate, the lesser the subs the bigger the chances people in chat gets to be noticed by her without being swarmed with messages every 0.5 seconds.

>> No.13975177

200k with no content

>> No.13975277

>>13975029
This, lately Pomu is reading like half the messages I type out.

>> No.13975291

>>13974360
This but unironically but also without saying chud because I hate that word (only because it sounds stupid)

>> No.13975341
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>>13972210
Who cares about dead subs? They are already making Hololive numbers where it matters.

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>>13972210
Your Niggi Oshi will never see an akasupa, much less any semblance of human rights or a seven-digit sub count. Seethe more while my oshi gets passive income this month.

>> No.13975774

she would lose the collab kino buff and gain the holo brand buff
so she would get 8000+ CCV even if she watched paint dry but it would suck

>> No.13976145

>>13975739
>This proud of being a paypig to some random whore that doesn't stream and considers her fans lower than filth.
If it turns you on, I guess.

>> No.13976304

>>13975739
Impressive being proven wrong before even making the post >>13975341

>> No.13976313

>>13975774
Seeing how gen3 now exists, I'm fine with losing the collab "kino". She's good enough solo.
I know they're her friends, but that doesn't mean I have to like them.

>> No.13976510

>>13975341
True, but hololive does have waaaay more members. So they are earning far more at the end of the day. But you are mostly right, they are pretty even on superchat. Except for Mori and Kiara who have waaaay too much superchat.

>> No.13976517

she would be the most popular member hands down but this is assuming she got to use that character

>> No.13976722

>>13972210
shes as bad as kiara

>> No.13976782

>>13972210
at least one

>> No.13977012

All of those old threads where people were predicting the Holo EN 2 candidates have really messed everyone up.
Now we're forever stuck in these constant sour grape threads where people pretend not to care but come and post in the thread anyways.

>> No.13977317

>>13972698
Yet you post a retarded ripped guy which just makes you look like a wannabe.

>> No.13977410

>>13976510
Kson mentioned that er membership makes up about a quarter of her income. Supahs make up three quarters.

Obviously this ratio will vary from streamer to streamer, but membership income < superchat income is probably a good rule of thumb.

>> No.13977492

>>13972210
Myth? Probably between Ame and Ina. Council? Below or tied with Mumei. Selen might have beat Ame if she was in Myth and might have won outright if she was in Council.

>> No.13977555

>>13975177
Kek

>> No.13977615

>>13973017
That and Susan fucking them in the ass over subs. IRyS, the shitty hype rollout, swapping debut days, the subs massacre, Sana in general, Sana and Bae streaming in the middle of the fucking night the first few weeks, Kronii killing her own momentum, awkward chemistry of the first collabs ect. Perfect storm of problems.

>> No.13977617

>>13977492
I don't think Selen would do as well relative to Elira if they were both in HoloEN. A big lot of her success has come from the exposure she gets from how freely she can just collab with males/females, pro-apex players, random streamers from other companies, get invited to JP tournaments etc.

>> No.13977722

>>13977617
She could still do that, Mori does it now, but to a more limited extent. It would just be pulling teeth on her end to deal with the Holo managers but she would still manage to be tremendously successful as there is a market demand for an EN FPS vtuber that is actually good at FPS (even if she's a one-trick APEX pony).

>> No.13977824

>>13977722
Mori was struggling with retarded management for half of her time in Hololive. At some point she just went fuck it.

>> No.13977852

>>13977722
it's entirely possible. i wonder if her frequent male collabs would be less well received, or if i just spend too much time in this shithole. it would not fly here at least.

>> No.13977950
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>>13977615
>the doggening
>baelz putting her stream at the exact opposite times as she sought to figure out where her audience was
>kronii being actually mentally ill and afraid of her own guralike success
>le heckin cute moomei never streaming/having a fanbase literally composed of actual redditors
>the other one who isn't offensive in any way but holy fuck I can only remember her because she's friends with IRyS and Watame
>omegatranny shilling himself, taking credit for everything good and pretending nothing is bad, actively making certain talents like moomers be 'civilization' but telling her she's also not allowed to play any rts or 4x games because muslims in pakistan who don't watch/know hololive even exists might get offended and just generally being the worst stereotype of middle managers ever trying to leech off of A-chan's popularity without understanding why A-chan is popular

>> No.13977981

>>13977722
Most weeks she is collabing with multiple people outside of the company with an audience interested in Apex multiple times when in Hololive its like something that happens once every couple of months maybe? It just wouldn't have the same kind of effect if it was so limited and slow.

With Nijisanji she is just collabing with people outside of the company on a moments notice. Like a couple of days ago she just randomly tweeted at some big twitch streamer having an apex event that she wanted to join and now today she is in a tournament that is probably going to attract a huge viewership and has a $100k prize pool with some huge name streamers in it..

>> No.13978079

>>13976145
She isn't a whore, she's basically a neet like her fans. She doesn't stream because I'm pretty sure she has actual autism and sees no point in doing things she doesn't enjoy (streaming when the games she wants to play aren't Cover Approved (TM)). She also seems to, I think, believe that other holomems spread the "Ayame is a whore" memes on imageboards. Sakamata from Holox seems to have been designed specifically to take advantage of the Ayame audience because COVER WANTS THAT MONEY EVEN IF AYAME DOESN'T WANNA STREAM.

>> No.13978092

>>13972210
in myth she could compete with ame if she befriended gura. else she would initially be ina tier then slowly become 3rd to mori.
in council she gets btfo'd by lazy VA and retard blessed with design and simpery. she can rise to be first later but since the gen is cursed, her pet or relative will probably die.

>> No.13978144

>>13976304
>>13975341
>>13976510
It seems like the distinction here, for example Kiara and Sana getting relatively high superchats, is that the most popular ones also draw the largest number of freeriders (SEAnigs, Latinos, children) who have no money and are loud and retarded. So hololive has outsized reach but with people who are financially useless.

>> No.13978225

>>13978144
Not entirely financially useless, big numbers get better/more sponsorship deals, more ad revenue, probably a not insignificant portion that dont superchat do member.

>> No.13978235

>>13973763
mumei got like 14k last night for a mic test lol

>> No.13978297

>>13972358
>>13972375
>>13972548
>>13973605
>AT THIS POINT

>> No.13978413

anyways, here's a mashup of elira and suisei for shoujo rei
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ZGbI_qt68

>> No.13978557

>>13978235
It was like 10 minutes of a mic test and the rest an unarchived karaoke with wonky sound at some parts. She got like 7-8k for the mic test part then people starting figuring out what was going on and it jumped up.

>> No.13978572

>>13978235
>500k subs
>only 14k CCV
Rumao. No wonder your whores are reclining, you'd rather shit up the board than watch any of their streams.
I can't blame you though - must suck having untalented boring lazy sacks of shits as your oshi lol

>> No.13978685

>>13972275
Polka...
Lamy...
Nene...
Flare...
Sora...
Mel...
Choco...
Luna...
Towa...
Mio...
Roboco...
Aki...
Shion...

>> No.13978872

>>13977981
My favorite is when she dragged Hana into a collab because she saw the
>Hana is typing
Message in discord

>> No.13978956

>>13978685
>at this point

>> No.13979064

>>13978685
So many more deserving than Holo EN

>> No.13979108

>>13979064
you will never be japanese

>> No.13979142

>>13972210
doesn't she mogg all of them at superchats?
subs and views don't matter aside from game shilling contracts

>> No.13979144

Does she really pander to the pronoun retards?

>> No.13979232

>>13979108
You don't need to be Japanese to appreciate Nene

>> No.13979518
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>>13979144
No

>> No.13981086

>>13979142
No, Sana is a high earner, and you can't exactly compared clock girl last month due to her absences.

>> No.13981180 [DELETED] 

>>13972698
Gigachad hates trannies

>> No.13982329

>>13973699
That's Council

>> No.13986015
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>>13979144
Please don't call her a retard

>> No.13986444

>>13972210
Same as what consol get

>> No.13986600

>>13979144
Not at all. Unironically, she's extremely careful not to be political or anything like that at all.

>> No.13986657

>>13975774
Elira is the most family friendly in nijiEN, she doesn't swear or talk about sex much. She's literally hololive-lite, and can fit in holoEN easily

>> No.13986935

>>13978297
>>AT THIS POINT
Nobody in Council seems on pace to get 1 million before August 2021, and I highly doubt any HoloX memebers will be able to maintain their debut momentum
In fact within the year it seems like only Ollie and Irys will hit 1 million

>> No.13989921

bump

>> No.13990093

>>13972698
based faggot

>> No.13990159

Not much more than the average holo. Maybe more because she wouldn't be talking to males on stream. Also Apex streams all the time which are awful and not entertaining at all.

Not only that, just now scrolling through /vt/ I realized there's a nother version of her with purple hair so I might not even be talking about the same one.

>> No.13990856

>>13990159
Purple is the apex streamer.

>> No.13993377

>>13990159
Out of all nijiEN, she's the one closer to holoEN in personality and content lol, also her GFE turns up to 11

>> No.13995178

>>13973699
worse, a leaf

>> No.13995368

>>13995178
Why the fuck every EN vtuber I know is leaf, what happen with that country?

>> No.13995394
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>>13974360
Im a chud who goes to your cons stealing your otaku bitches and theres nothing you can do about it faggot. Shit is SO cash

>> No.13995449

>>13995368
tons of cute asian immigrants

>> No.13995504

>>13995449
only in BC. everywhere else gets poos

>> No.13995778

I like Elira and always watch her singing streams, but her gameplays are pretty boring. Only Selen and Pomu make me wanna watch them play random shit because of their commentary.

>> No.13995933

>>13972210
Elira 1.2m
Selen 2-2.5m
Pomu 1m
Fish 1m

>> No.13997410

>>13995933
Why Selen is so high?

>> No.13997595

>>13997410
i'm not sure either. a lot of what she does would not fly in hololive, especially collabing with so many outside vtubers and gamers. meanwhile elira would fit in very well.

>> No.13997639

>>13997410
Infectious laugh and entertaining, pretty much always knows more in games than the others, gap moe

>> No.13997816

>>13986657
Yeah if she just dropped the pronouns shit she'd be good

>> No.13997877

>>13997410
She knows a lot about transformers lore.

>> No.13997898

>>13997816
t. Threadwatching dramanigger

>> No.13997925

>>13997898
t. Xer Ximxe

>> No.13997985

>>13997925
Don't be so insecure about your sexuality, anon.

>> No.13997987

>>13972210
easy 1.5M subs with 10k+ CCV, good singer would benefited more by joining holo, she can do unarchived karaoke there

>> No.13998008 [DELETED] 

>>13997985
You will never be a woman
You will be buried under your real name and gender

>> No.13998044

Be honest, how many dicks would OP suck if he were at a pride festival?
https://streamable.com/0fba6i

>> No.13998068 [DELETED] 

>>13998008
I can't imagine how someone can get so angry over something like someone correctly calling you a threadwatcher and a dramanigger.

>> No.13998099

>>13972210
STUPID BIITCH YOU SHOULD HAVE TAKE YOUR TIME AND AUDITIONED FOR HOLO INSTEAD!!! AAAAAAAAAA

>> No.13998134 [DELETED] 

>>13998068
I can't imagine how someone can get so angry over something like someone correctly calling you a tranny and a pronouns fag.

>> No.13998168 [DELETED] 

>>13998134
>>13998068
two faggots with some heavy sexual tension here
let's go

>> No.13998177 [DELETED] 

>>13998134
Thank you for reminding me that this place has legitimately mentally ill people here. I genuinely hope you get the help you require.

>> No.13998208 [DELETED] 

>>13998177
Same to you and your gender identity crisis.

>> No.13998246 [DELETED] 

>>13998177
>>13998208
START ASSFUCKING, YOU FAGGOTS

>> No.13998566 [DELETED] 

Another nijitranny successfully btfo, many such cases!

>> No.13998836 [DELETED] 

>>13998566
If you’re still comfortably sitting here after all this dick talk you may as well start sucking me off

>> No.13998894 [DELETED] 

>>13998836
Kill yourself

>> No.13999034 [DELETED] 

>>13998894
still here? you’re obviously typing because your mouth is occupied :)

>> No.13999064

>>13972210
Less than Mel and Aki

>> No.13999095 [DELETED] 

>>13999034
Seethe
Cope
Mald
Dilate
Sneed
YWNBAW

>> No.13999205 [DELETED] 

>>13999095
I told you I’m giving you nothing but dick and you still keep coming back. Could it be that you can’t stop thinking about fat, veiny, throbbing cocks? You don’t have to throw out buzzwords if you’re scared

>> No.13999301 [DELETED] 

>>13999205
You will never be a real woman. You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs. You are a homosexual man twisted by drugs and surgery into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.
Men are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed men to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even trannies who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a man. Your bone structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy home with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected axe wound.
You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably male.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

>> No.13999408 [DELETED] 

>>13999301
You are the most closeted fag I’ve met in a while. Can’t resist cock and yet terrified into only posting pasta

>> No.13999491 [DELETED] 

>>13999408
بچه بیا پایین

>> No.13999576 [DELETED] 

>>13999491
What a cute, shy dicklover who can’t stop talking about it

>> No.13999902 [DELETED] 

Another homo successfully questioning their sexuality, many such cases!

>> No.14001967 [DELETED] 

>>13999491
ホモじゃん

>> No.14002071

>>13972275
Poor Roboko...

>> No.14002126

She tries so hard to be seiso, but she is NOT seiso. She corrupted her entire gen with drunken twerking on halloween

>> No.14002307

>>13972210
It wouldn't be worth it because she'd be in Hololive, the shittiest corporation known to man.

>> No.14004429

>>14002126
What a kino stream, I had to keep switching between collabs and every time someone new is there.

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>>13978079

>> No.14012139 [DELETED] 

>>13999902
>>13999576
Kys literally

>> No.14012472 [DELETED] 

>>14012139
Must be dark in that closet anon. Why don't you just come out?

>> No.14012563 [DELETED] 

>>14012472
Sorry nijitranny, I'm not gay or non-binary

>> No.14014015

Elira >>>>>>>>>>>>>> selen

>> No.14014424

Selen >>>>>>>>>> nonbinary pals

>> No.14014574

The only good nijien is Enna

t. hologod

>> No.14014720

>>14014574
You can thank Elira for her existing.

>> No.14014748

>>14014720
I will only thank Elira if she tells the non-binary pals to 41% themselves

>> No.14015143

I watch both branches often and can safely say Selen and Elira would probably mog everyone except Gura and maybe Ina in terms of live viewership if they were in Hololive. They're just so much more fun, if even Kiara manages to maintain 3k reliable viewers and dominate superchat rankings then literally anyone can make it in Hololive thanks to clipfags shoving them down people's throats.

>> No.14015383

>>14015143
Sorry that niji"talents" have to hire or beg for clippers

>> No.14015438

>>14015143
Holo fans wouldn't like Selen, she's too twitch and always collabs with shitty ecelebs and men

>> No.14015486

>>14015438
She wouldn't be able to do that in Hololive to the same extent though surely? Plenty of their existing girls I am sure would love to do more outside collabs than the 1 or 2 a year they are allowed while Selen does it 2 or 3 times a week sometimes more.

>> No.14015523

>>13972210
I think Petra, Rosemi, and Pomu would have done well in Hololive.

I haven’t seen a lot of the most recent gen, but they seem like they might have done well too.

>> No.14015528

>>14015438
>Holo fans wouldn't like Selen
They literally like Ollie though and she's even louder and more annoying than Selen? Besides if you think Holofag audience is really above loud obnoxious Twitch streamers you give them way too much credit. Most of them literally came from Twitch when Myth debuted and brought all their shitty memes and spam. There were a lot of growing pains in the first few months of HoloMyth where they had to scold chat for being too obnoxious.

>she's too twitch and always collabs with shitty ecelebs and men
So does Mori but management just cucks her out of the collabs she wants so she just drools over Twitch streamers from afar. Hasn't hurt her growth at all. If anything it just got her name out there from networking with those people through Twitter etc.

>> No.14015545

>>14015486
Nah they are in hololive cause they hate those people just like me
>>14015528
No one likes Ollie

>> No.14015599

>>14015545
>Fastest growing ID vtuber and soon to hit 1 million subs
>No one likes her
Stop reading /vt/, most Holo fans aren't that bitter towards a woman having fun in her own livestreams.

>> No.14015627

>>14015599
ID manager really needs to reine in ollie

>> No.14015669

>>14015599
Okay Connor

>> No.14015852 [DELETED] 

>>13981180
He's a communist which is based

>> No.14015923 [DELETED] 

>>14015852
No that makes you a chud and practically as bad as a zhang.

>> No.14015956 [DELETED] 

>>14015923
Communism is based, stay mad about it. Maybe go munch on your corn syrup and McDonald's to calm down? You haven't had your fix in a while fatty

>> No.14015965 [DELETED] 

>>14015923
cringe
communists will inherit the earth

>> No.14016295

I think if NijiEN debuted with JKs or OLs instead of cutesy fantasy shit with overly baggy clothes, they would've gained a lot more numbers. Those designs are niji's best specialty.

>> No.14016416

If she was HoloMYTH, 1Mish like everyone else not named Gura
Council, probably around 200k-300k
Its funny because if HoloMYTH debuted as Council they would all be sub 600k and if council debuted first they would all have similar numbers to current myth, with Mumei taking Gura's spot as number one

>> No.14016467 [DELETED] 

>>14015956
Like 50,000,000 starved to death under Mao based?
They absolutely would have munched on a Big Mac and it would have been the first time they ate a real meal in 5 years instead of eating grass and tree bark.

>> No.14016580 [DELETED] 

>>14016467
More people have died under capitalism
>leaving them out to starve on the streets without healthcare
>interfering in the affairs of other countries and starting wars to keep the consoomer IV drip going to sell more useless crap
Capitalism is also destroying the human race by ruining the planet because coal is the cheapest energy source, so it will have a death toll of 8 billion. China is building nuclear power plants, while the US is selling the meme of "clean coal" because it lines the pockets of capitalist pigs.

Cope.

>> No.14016579 [DELETED] 

>actual communists
Hello Nina kosaka viewers!

>> No.14016671 [DELETED] 

>>14016580
Furthermore, not only is capitalism worse than communism, it is also inferior to any other political system as well. Fascism is better. Primitivism is better. Monarchy is better. Theocracy is better. Capitalism is the worst political ideology known to man, defended only by retards who judge quality of life solely by how many fancy toys they have.

>> No.14016708 [DELETED] 

>he's actually communist
Yikes!

>> No.14016710

>>13979144
Elira "LGBT" Pendora

>> No.14016911 [DELETED] 

>Holofags are unironic capitalists
lmao how fucking embarrassing

>> No.14016939 [DELETED] 

>>14016911
> nijifags are commies
explains all the begging

>> No.14016970 [DELETED] 

What country are you in, commie?

>> No.14017048

which vtubers are nazis

>> No.14017135

>>14017048
Usada Pekora

>> No.14017141 [DELETED] 

>>14016580
No system has killed more people than Communism.

Even Facism and Nazism didn’t come close. And the poorest in a capitalist society and still much better off than anyone is a shithole communist one.

You wouldn’t even be typing here if you were in North Korea or the Soviet Union. You’d be waiting for your bread.

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>>14017141
Because capitalists have never had bread lines?
Ever been to a soup kitchen? Hell I couldn't even find instant ramen at my local grocery store due to hoarders at the height of the pandemic.

There's more homeless in America than the entire population of most communist countries. It's absolute nonsense that capitalism doesn't have starvation and immense amounts of suffering. While China uplifts the poor into the middle class America is selling their middle class into slaves for the rich. As much as it's convenient to cling to the past communists seem to have a much more realistic path to the future than the crumbling american empire.

>> No.14017406 [DELETED] 

>he's a communist
>in America
>he takes his beliefs very seriously

>> No.14017485 [DELETED] 

>yeah capitalism is a sustainable and logical system
>we just need to continuously steal resources from other cultures and have the majority of the us population live in wage slavery while we run out of land because of overfarming
>don't worry bro heckin SCIENCE will save us

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> Yeah, communism is bad goyim.
> Yeah, capitalism is bad goyim.
> Yeah keep fighting each other, goyim

>> No.14017782 [DELETED] 

So why not relocate to one of your communist utopias?

>> No.14017869 [DELETED] 

>>14017331
There is 0 home ownership in communist countries. The state owns all land and properties.

And yes bread lines, soup kitchens, shelters, food banks, etc. in the west paid for with charity.
In a communist country charity doesn’t exist because I only have 1 loaf for the week I can’t give you any.

>> No.14018009 [DELETED] 

>>14017331
They hated her because she told the truth

>> No.14018169 [DELETED] 

>>14017774
Rabbinical Judaism at it again

>> No.14018205 [DELETED] 

>>14017869
>There is 0 home ownership in communist countries.
abolition of private property doesn't mean people's homes.
private property is a specific concept that is separate from personal property.
a person's family home is personal property. a person's rental home aka just another source of income is private property and would be regulated by the state.

>And yes bread lines, soup kitchens, shelters, food banks, etc. in the west paid for with charity.
false, most of those programs are paid for using taxes in every country that isn't the US. governments don't like having a large population of uneducated unhoused unemployable people, it benefits the entire society even in capitalist ones to keep poors fed and clothed and off the streets

>In a communist country charity doesn’t exist
false, communism took off so well in the USSR and China precisely because they had an established culture of small rural villages where people were already accustomed to assisting eachother during hard times for the benefit of the collective. setting up a centralized bureaucracy with local chapters for distributing those resources was just a natural extension of existing tribal/village leaders that were already doing the same thing on a smaller scale.

>> No.14018298 [DELETED] 

>>14018205
Alright alright.
Here’s you social credit boost.

+10,000,000,000!!!

>> No.14018314 [DELETED] 

>>14018205
So why aren't you in Russia or China if they are so amazing?

>> No.14018856 [DELETED] 

Interesting how the communist loves communism yet lives in a capitalist country, how odd!

>> No.14021520 [DELETED] 

you guys are retarded

>> No.14021567

>>13972210
About the same given that she would have debuted under EN2 which is a MASSIVE failure

>> No.14022198

>>13972210
Idk about her. But if Selen were to become the rat, she will beat all her gen mate and pass 700k by now.

>> No.14022287 [DELETED] 

>>14021520
Agreed, communist trannies are retarded

>> No.14022424

>>13972210
which non-hololive vtuber would gain the most from becoming one?

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>>14022424

>> No.14023295

>>13972698
Based they/themchad

>> No.14023338

>>13972698
holy based
watch the chuds squeal and seethe impotently

>> No.14023670

>>13995933
Rosemi 10m

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>>13972698
>>13974360
As long as both you and Elira don't go around saying stupid contradictory shit like, "Trap does not EQUAL TRANS, but Trap is a SLUR against trans people, honey". Then we're all good.

>> No.14025483

>>14007786
Generally when making broad accusations one would think you'd have proof.

>> No.14027975

>>13972210
what is her appeal?

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>>14027975
Great voice (both singing and speaking)
Wholesome attitude and outlook
Absolutely loves to stream (4hrs is a 'short' stream for her)
Willingness to please her chat and try their suggestions
Incredible chat interaction, always replying and bouncing off of comments
She has a very well-rounded appeal.

>> No.14029732

Hope you guys remember that She being in holo means she would not be Elira but one of holo designs
so if she debuted as myth
Elira would most likely be put in Kiara or Mori design
Kiara: todays orange woman would be no more, her alternate outfit would have more clothing and be at 2million subs
Mori: todays more would be a chicken rapper and Elira as the Reaper that soft sings while you die by her hands also 2 million subs

if she debuted as Council
she would most likely be Fauna or Sana
Sana: dog griever would be no more, Elira she would be 3/4th of the gen but with way more subs than todays sana, accept it the debuff it too strong 350k
Fauna: top of the gen, fit like a glove would be closing in on Irys so about 600k, todays fauna would be Sana and mogged by everyone for being boring and having the debuff

>> No.14030170

>>14029732
how big is your rectum to have pulled all this bullshit out of it?

>> No.14030981

>>14029732
Pretty sure Mori and Gura and Ina were pre-reserved. It would've been either Kiara and Ame and if given the choice between a former idol that can actually sing + dance and has social skills vs a 2view twitch streamer they would've replaced Ame in a heartbeat.

>> No.14031377

>>14030981
At least Mori has talked about auditioning. One the most popular Mori complaints is literally
>she applied as a joke she doesn't care about Holo

>> No.14038284

>>13995449
If this were the actual reason, California would also have tons of VTubers.

>> No.14038621

>>14038284
California does have tons of cute vtubers.
Tsunderia and Cyberlive are both based in California for example and so are like half their talents.
Artia(RIP) and Ame and Petra are all Californians too.
There's some Virtua Real girls that are from California too but they obviously only stream in Chinese.

>> No.14038768

>>14038621
>Artia(RIP)
Artia was from California? I thought she was Canada or Washington state. Either way I miss her after she graduated again again.

>> No.14043985

>>13972210
3 mil

>> No.14050034

bump

>> No.14050897

>>14038768
Yea she stayed to study in canada but now has moved back to shinjang china

>> No.14052273

>>14050897
Oh really? That sucks, why'd she stop streaming, did she say?

>> No.14054233 [DELETED] 

don't care about replying to all the chuds and commie fags in this thread but I just want to say I'm fine with commies or lefties doing their thing if they let me use slurs like nigger or faggot for fun :)

>> No.14054285

>Bumped this almost dead thread
wow nice definitely-not-a-flaseflag

>> No.14059344

>>13972249
Did Elira really say this or is this just some made up drama? Not that there's anything dramatic about it.

>> No.14059357

>>14050034
Stop

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