/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>13911182
now post SCs

>>13911182
Can't watch because of spoilers
Can't speak for anyone else, though

why are you a numberfag? don’t be like pekora

>>13911182
Right, it's so obvious that she's nothing without Hololive's brand power.

>>13911182
Kson still mogs hololive in terms of SC.

>>13911182
She got those views for solo streams when she was Coco you just never noticed

Coco graduated, OP. Why would I follow some VShojo-adjacent thot to chaturbate?

>>13911182
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>>13911412
Zhang

>>13911508
>bait

>>13911227
>>13911465
This.
Earnings >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sub count/views

It's a more legitimate measure of someone's popularity because people are actually willing to spend money on you. Kizuna AI has millions of subscribers across her different channels but she's irrelevant compared to a lot of other vtubers now. Earnings matter more than anything else, and KSon beats everyone in this except maybe Rushia, haven't checked the rankings lately.

>>13911182
>Her fandom completely dropped her.
ogey

>>13911508
nijibrony

>>13911857
>explicit proof it was yakuza money laundering the whole time

>>13911857
>brand dicksuckers were also poorfags
Oh no no no no

>>13911182
I hate kson as much as they next guy but these were her numbers in holo outside of meme review and other events.

Judge eyes is a debuff game but you knew that

>>13912203
Not really but you can easily check it.

>>13911182
>makes more SC money than all the holos
>most subbed independent vtuber of all time
>doesn't have the corporate leash whipping her and is starting to branch out with collabs ie Melody
Eat shit.

>>13912366
Yeah her numbers were pretty low. She once nicely asked her fans not to say stuff like "only <insert number> viewers" for some streams. It was near the end of her career in hololive. I think she was playing minecraft when she said that.

>>13913252

It depended a lot on what kind of stream it was, she could get 2k, she could get 8k+ it just depended on the context, same as now.

Judge Eyes is just boring even for a Yakuza game, and she never got a lot of views on Yakuza games.

>>13911508
Schizo

>>13911182
I love her, but even i can't watch this boring shit.

>>13911857
On top of that she gets all of this now without Cover cut.

>>13911182
>>13911857
Another proof how worthless raw numbers are.

Same way NijiEN with 2k viewers make more in superchats than HoloEN with over 10k.

>>13911182
Man, she must be starving...

>>13911857
Ouch. Another proof that Cover moving from actual otaku content to boring as shit sterile kiddie friendly crap is not the best idea long term. Minecraft babies don't superchat.

>>13913371
>she never got a lot of views on Yakuza games

Anon, the difference is, one Ksonfag is worth about 200 noutoddlers

>>13913642
>hiroyuki
Wait what

>>13911182
her live view numbers were always mediocre; many of her coco streams were in the 2k-4k range as well.

it was her regular "other" content that got the high watches. meme review or asacoco for example.

>>13911182
I only watched her when she was collabing with someone i watch regularly, if she got too obnoxious i would just find another stream to watch.

>>13914019
>always
She was top tier in live viewers for like half a year but she was hit hard by the restrictions and then chat spambots and other hardships gradually whittled away the non-diehards. 2K was movie watchalong numbers for isolation period Coco.

In any case for an indie at a weird time frame playing a debuff game for the fifth stream they're very respectable numbers and OP is retarded for making a thread about them half a week later.

>>13911182
It's completely opposite in fact, tourists left, fandom stayed.

>>13911660
Bad idea to use Kizuna Ai in a comparison of earnings vs subs when she pulls in plenty. You gotta find a VTuber that has high subs/views but doesn't pull in much from all their revenue streams.

>>13911857
How does she do it? What is it about kson that makes people shower her with money?

>>13911182
+15 social credit

I said this 2 months ago.

I said, she might look popular now, but if she doesn't have a streaming group, she is going to fade in popularity. She needs other talents with her. Either start her own group, or join an existing group. I said she should join Nijisanji. Back then, suggesting that was ridiculous because she's so big. But look at her now. It's because she didn't have the ability to see this coming.

>>13911660
How about comparing membership. Oh, I guess you can't because that can't be accurently put on a list to jerk off to. You do know that the top streamers outside of vtubers don't even deal in SCs because it's chump change compared to the views they get from ad revenue and membership. Technoblade got like 613k live viewers for playing minecraft for 2 hours which from first glance seems like play acting in minecraft. Maybe you should get your heads out of the gutter because real youtube streamers treat SCs as a meare pittance in the grand scheme of things.

>>13918735
>ad revenue
>in 2021
Kek, anon are you stuck in 2010?

>>13911660
Earning from promotions + merchs > earning from SC.
Didn't Kson herself said that her SC is 60-70% of the revenue from YT while before that, as Kson it was 10-20% or something?

rrat

>>13918828
Read your post again.

>>13918828
No, she did not. No clue where you got those numbers from.

For most Youtube streamers SC doesn't make for huge income but that's because they simply don't get as many donations. Holos and other vtubers are extremely overrepresented in SC rankings.

>>13918939
Sorry, as Coco, her earning was 10-20%. Not sure if that is correct since I remember reading that in the general threads. Nevertheless, I imagined membership + promotion would dwarf jusy SCs alone.

>>13918443
she only gets a lot of SC during zatsudans, so probably her personality appeals to japs

>>13911182
who?
idk who that is on the left
anyway
man i miss coco

>>13918828
Kson takes 70 cents of every dollar (30% is flat yt tax)
Coco at best got 35 cents (50/50 split with cover after yt tax)
In fact for her SC are significant chunk of her income, one may argue, more than merch ( yes she have it) but her merch is quite affordable, so her income from that is lower.

>>13911182
Vtuber vs camwhore

>>13914680
Gura...

>cocotards unironically defending the bitch
Fucking pathetic. She used hololive to be popular and left. I hope she has a painful death.

>>13919195
Pekoea had her episode in niconico, there's no need to dwell on that.

>>13911182
She got those numbers when she played Yakuza 3. And way back when she played Kiwami before Taiwan.
I was surprised but Tatsunoko really don't care to watch her play her favorite series. Too bad, they were fun streams.

>>13918895
yeah you love that corpo cock don't you?
useless senpai can't even protect the based dragon who carried the whole company

>>13919270
>That's your brain on corporate branding.

>>13919321
If you hate Miko you're clearly don't care about Coco either.
Begone shill.

>>13919444
>ESL
how's beijing?

>>13912918
>>most subbed independent vtuber of all time
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLqCmbd6bgcLaBVz3aA-68A

>>13920014
streams doko?

>>13919270
Why are you so angry about something so unimportant ?

>>13920156
It’s called Vtuber and not Vstreamer

>>13918443
She has a strong personality and isn’t brain dead.

>>13911182
>Her fandom completely dropped her
>She's number one in superchat for the month of November
Get fucked retard

>>13920217
So where is her avatar?

>>13919270
Isn't it the opposite? I heard she was originally gonna be a manager but then was brought into the spotlight or something.
Plus it seemed like it was a healthy symbiotic relationship, she basically attracted more EN viewers to Hololive by actually speaking English with crassness contrasting the gap-moe idol theme, they got popular, they all benefited from the money coming in, they parted ways on good terms despite the heavy rough spots around late 2020/early 2021, everyone won.

>>13918735
>Ad revenue
Literally the only reason youtubers care about being demonitized is because it shadow bans them and makes it harder people to find them. Why the fuck do you think they ALL use some kind of fan funding site and shill Raycon and Raid? If youtube just took away the literal pennies they pay them, no one would care about being demonitized.

>>13920302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVItBIkQPGQ&t=1500s

>>13920869
She used it only for one stream? sugoi

>>13920940
She debuted it after getting fucked over by Sony and quitting as Kaguya Luna, she has a Solo live next weekend.

>>13911857
Ramirez overtook Rushia? sasuga yukimin!

>>13918443
Cause she doesn't give a fuck if people don't like her. She learned she can't please everyone nor that everyone likes her so she just does her thing which built the core of her community who stay.

>>13919270
Uhm, that's supposed to be bad?
You unironically think nobody else but her applied for popularity and money?

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>>13921398
Why are you responding seriously to such an obvious shitposter?

>>13913466
>all of this
Susan disagrees

>>13921470
Why else would I be on this site if not to shitpost and reply to shitposter?

>>13911182
>Her fandom completely dropped her.
everybody hated her surprise collab with Connor last week

>>13913642
Bora is graduating you dumb faggot

>>13913642
>Minecraft babies don't superchat.
>superchat
anon, that's the mentality of the poorfag, they go for the big sponsors, that's where is the real money, they only need numbers

>>13918735
>Technoblade got like 613k live viewers for playing minecraft for 2 hours
Bro WTF
I didn't even know that number was possible for anything other than a live concert
That's absolutely insane

>>13911857
wtf Lamy has just been silently raking in big bucks since last year mad respect for her

>>13920580
>symbiotic relationship
This. Even then till the end. The chinks got autobanned by the anti spam system, Coco leaves on a positive note with Hololive and comes out as a hero, both Hololive and Kson are making even more money than ever before. While Zhang and his friends lost all their money on Evergrande and seething that they can't do anything about it. Everyone won except the Chinks.

>>13930548
Lamy is mogging Rushia lately, my guess is that people are bored of menhera experience and want just cute regular gfe instead

>>13911182
she isn't part of hololive anymore, she made enough money to live comfy. I never liked her and found it hilarious people were willing to sit through a stream of actual reddit memes every week just for her

>>13928124
oh boy, if I had a penny for every corporation that fails because they focused on marketing rather than their own product

Awesome bait thread

>>13911227
>one simp keep paying coco money thinking that she will marry him one day
......

>>13933214
Thanks for bumping it anyway