/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

I was making some fries, you guys are slow

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1464614466700517376
>announcement on main Hololive page
is that a buff?

>>13678779
free tokyo ghoul chinkun

And the Disney land streams are privated

Im rly curious if youtube will nerf Holo6's subcount like what happened to Council or not

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - NOVEMBER 2021

1) Marine (Hololive) - 34.7k - Karaoke
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 42.5 - Minecraft (Sport fest prep)
3) Chronoir (Nijisanji) - 48.9k - Announcement
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 36.4k - Rhythm Heaven
5) Luis Cammy (Nijisanji) - 39.4k - 3D Debut
6) Miko (Hololive) - 81.5k - Minecraft Sports Fest
7) Miko (Hololive) - 69.7k - Sport Fest Totsu
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.6k - Evil God korone
9) Subaru (Hololive) - 44k - Evil God Korone
10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 56k - Kuzuha Concert Free Part
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 55k - First FFXIV stream
12) Fumi (Nijisanji) - 38k - 3D Debut
13) Rushia (Hololive) - 81k - Outfit reveal
14) Marine (Hololive) - 81.8k - Subaru's High profile case
15) Lamy (Hololive) - 83.3k - Birthday 3D
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 31.8k - Ape Escape 3
17) Marine (Hololive) - 34k - Bus Simulator
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 82.5k - Minecraft Mod with Marine
19) Towa (Hololive) - 47.5k - Mario Party
20) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 95k - Splatoon Tpurney day 1
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 88.2k - Splatoon Tourney day 2
22) Subaru (Hololive) - 31.5k - Pokemon Challenge (vs Okayu)
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.7k - Karaoke Relay
24) Noel (Hololive) - 56.9k - Birthday Totsu
25) Hololive ch (Hololive) - 58.6k - Gen 3 Concert Free Part

New debuts:
26) La+ Darknesss - 167.6k
27) Takane Lui - 149.8k
28) Hakui Koyori
29) Sakamata Chloe
30) Kazama Iroha

>Watashi mo, senpai!
WHAT SAY YOU!?

>toss her some numbers to make Mel’s mama happy?

66k now.

>>13678883
Well it's because her Twitter is still in Twitter jail.

>>13678836
Shush, I'm not home yet otherwise I would've grabbed a other panel from trillion game.
Also, I think this la+ x Lui collab is probs going to be silver for tomorrow, I don't think that tomorrow's collab will beat this one in numbers purely because La+ is probably the bigger draw at.

How long debut buff usually last

>>13678903
They already did.

>>13678928
I know. I'm just curious if this will help even more

>>13678928
Oh, right. She's the unfortunate one who got sent to the slammer. Rip.

>>13678902
why? i wasnt watching

>>13678951
It's a rolling collab, tomorrow will be Laplus, Takane and Koyori, the three of them.

67k now

>>13678951
>Hololive become so strong that now everyone can only fight for Bronze ...

Is this how /#/ end?

>>13679002
Audio permissions

>>13678902
Ah fuck, I just woke up

>>13679002
Disney songs, they’re likely playing it safe and going to ask for clarification on the permissions

>>13679009
Oh. Okay nvm that's the silver then.

>>13678903
>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - NOVEMBER 2021

1) ??? (Hololive) - ??? - Gen 6 Collab

>>13679029
Hololive destroyed /#/ numerous times already. Not to mention the creation of /vt/ is because of Hololive.

>>13679126
Oops for december

For context the first gen 5 collab (Nene and Lamy) got 27k

>>13678951
orca and pink girl has a chance to outdo La+. the headwing for Lui is a debuff

If anyone here has been with vtuber market since Kizuna Ai's debut, how is the period now compared to back then? Does this deserve to be the 2nd golden age of vtubing?

>>13678903
They got a cull already, but nowhere near what council got (yet).

TOTAL MOGGIFICATION

they have pretty good chemistry. I think Cover is going for the gen 5 approach where they made sure the girls are very familiar with each other before debuting.

>>13679029
hololive is the root of number brain rot

>>13679235
there are still some streams from 11-26 there, bugs?

>>13679250
Yes, Iroha was playing XIV with Lui it seems

>>13679221
>golden age of
>hololive

>>13679235
Fubuki the Queen of Hololive

>>13679164
>Gura with sub and VOD
>Mori and Sui with music
>Coco with single video CCV
>Peko with daily CCV
>Gen 3 and Lamy with SC
What metric do I miss?

>>13679281
It counts by end time, not start time.

>>13679235
Imagine minecraftjp looking at the numbers from shiraken and compare it to their event a month ago with nijis

>>13679267
Unironically true. For anyone that's been tracking the numbers for a long time, for 15k+ streams to go from 'this is today's winner' to 'meh, just toss it into the pile of the rest'...
I mean, 15k+ would be the top for Niji nowadays whenever Kuzuha isn't streaming, but on the Hololive side....15k won't put you into the top 5 on a normal day. How fucked is that?

>>13679250
If they're both who people think they are there's a good chance they knew each other before

>>13679372
dogeza now

>>13679345
Mech sales, I guess

>>13679372
iirc minecraftjp is the only possible one that communicated with cover to do the disney m sponsorship. The branch was probably held at gunpoint to find good streamers to shill disney mc in Japan. They looked at niji at first, Riku doing a dogeza at the front door and making a proposal to force 8 top streamers to shill the map on less pay. Then they looked at Hololive.

>>13679465
Hololive Gundam when?

>>13679465
Yeah but there's no way for us to numberfag that, unless someone actively spill the bean

>>13679235
I remember saying that Niji will be out of Top 10 once JP 6 is out.

How many days will this last now?

>>13679235
>2 FBK
>2 Migo
>2 Duck
What the fuck. Number Bunny should have streamed once more

>>13679250
That's a really good approach but at the same time it's a double edged sword because if Aloe ever happened again their morale will be down just like gen 5.
>>13679441
People already figured out Lui?
>>13679465
We can't numberfag it but if you look at auction website Marine, Suisei, and Coco always top the chart.

>>13679540
At least until the debuts are done. Kuzuha might snag a spot in the top 10 with his month of RE.

>>13679372
How many viewers did they get?

>>13679539
Compare the most expensive Holo card versus the most expensive Niji card on the secondary market
>>13679589
https://twpf.jp/eclair_taso

>>13679589
>Aloe ever happened again their morale will be down just like gen 5.
if they have a strong leader, they will be able to weather the storm. gen 5 was really fortunate that Botan is a thing

>>13679540
The only thing certain is that Gen 6 are guaranteed the gold and silver until the end of the month.

Man, it's weird how companes make branches specifically catering to just JP market, even though there are roughly 130-150M speakers in the world. It would make more sense to go after bigger markets than Japan.

>>13679533
just release pekodam and mikochar those things will sell

>>13679578
3 FBK and 3 Subaru actually

>>13679267
>>13679433
To some, Hololive may be their first exposure to streamers. Before that was anime. People knows twitch, but they aren't incline to stay/watch with a streamer there. Hololive can make a new viewer be a fan. Before this, I hated streamers and got into HL due to Suisei. Now, I'm too deep in to even watch other streamers and watch them at dinner every night.

>>13679611
For Shiraken? 50k+ total CCV across 4 streams, possibly as high as 60k?

>>13679345
VOD (total) is also Pekora

>>13679540
Gen 6 is gonna take 10k spots for december but not top 10

>>13679635
>gen 5 was really fortunate that Botan is a thing
Botan is kinda similar with Mio that she can be the leader when needed
Also being hag

>>13679737
Nobody cares for total, average VODs per video/stream is more valuable to advertisers and algo.

>>13679611
Migo 37k+
Comet 12k+
Furea 8k+
Clown 5k+

>>13679796
Huge chumbud cope but ok.

Lamy's absorbing the outflow of all the ending streams, past 10k now for Breath of the Wild.

OH NO NO NO FAUNAKEKS!!
Next baelz

>>13679619
She made cover with Mel and IRyS huh.

>>13679796
he's technically correct though, even if I agree that VOD/vid is more important to YouTube.

>>13679835
NTA, but I mean, it's not wrong
Peko already have more video than Gura, even with the Holocaus

>>13679796
Gura making shorts or 10 minute videos could easily go beyond 1M every time

>>13679796
>number brain rot
sponsors can request internal analytics of the channel, otherwise, it still doesn't make sense for Kiara to get exclusively sponsored by Atlus

>>13679708
the peak I saw at some point are like
miko 37k+
suisei 13k+
flare 10k+
polka 7.5k+
really close to 70k

>>13679848
Utaite community then? Is just how things go, just like NND oldguard all know each other.

>>13679845

>>13679886
Pekora's Pokemon stream that ended hours ago already have more VOD views than the previous 3 Gura streams.
In a month-by-month basis Pekora has more views than Gura every month. That means that at a given point in time more people are watching Pekora than Gura.
It's not hard to understand that Pekora just pumps out a new VOD every day and dilutes views between more of them.

>>13679835
Not cope, just stating the obvious. If your recent VODs are only half as much as past VIDs then your channel will not get recommended much. That's how algo works dumbshit.

>>13679896
Yeah and where is that? Oh no it's just you being delusional, keep imagining thing tho that will help gura

https://twpf.jp/eclair_taso

Lui's portfolio is very impressive.

>>13679925
Yeah it's a small pond.

>>13679985
Huh. So cake or hag?

>>13679818
No wonder Comet is trying to get with Miko.

>>13679971
Oh you sweet summer child, have you noticed how Pekora's VODs never grow while Gura's VODs keep growing right? Please tell me you have eyes to see and brain to think.

>>13679971
>an actual chink
go back

>>13679845
>>13679965
Look at this shit and tell me there's a god

>>13680057
Stop the timeloop Anon. You both value different metrics and it's just gonna end up with 20+ posts looping thr same tired old arguments.

>>13679985
So she actually just very nervous for today debut, hag bros assemble and kneel

>>13680057
More people watch Pekora than Gura, the past week, the past month, the past year. Why is this so hard to get through your skull?
>>13680065
Holy shit you're fucking retarded

>>13680039
Probably like Irys that started early so a cake

>>13680096
ILLEGAL

>>13679985
>Auto Chess最高ランク:King/大会出場経験有/大会主催経験有/パートナー契約経験有
>TFT最高ランク:Diamond
>R6S最高ランク:Platinum
>APEX最高ランク:Diamond
>DbD最高ランク:鯖2
Pretty good at games.

>>13679985
>https://twpf.jp/eclair_taso
>box push
your days are doomed, niji

>Also is this good?
Auto Chess ￫ highest rank: King / tournament experience Yes / organizer experience Yes / partner contract experience Yes
TFT highest rank: Diamond
R6S ￫ highest rank: Platinum
APEX ￫ highest rank: Diamond
DbD ￫ highest rank: mackerel 2

>>13680096
Yes, and he smiles upon the house that Yahoo built.

>>13680096
By god you mean Yagoo?

>>13680096
Yeah, his name is Yagoo.

>>13680051
I don't know if this is bait or not but Suisei funneled viewers to Miko when she had problems with her Xbox and there wasn't as much of a difference between povs.

>>13680096
ILLEGAL VIEW FUNNELING

>>13680065
Okay, you're an idiot that's clearly Japanese.

>>13680051
I think Comet's stream was scuffed. In other shiraken collabs, she held 20k+. Tourists gathered to Miko

>>13680057
NTA but...

>>13679985
YAGOO, what the fu- ...

>>13680138
Oh. Wow, yea that's a solid set of rankings that puts her in "yes, I can actually play these games" level.

>>13680096
that's me when I hear zion's voice

>>13680245
She's friends with Mel's roommate it looks like.

>>13680123
Fuck you you sack of shit. Just compare last week's videos of both of them before you type your grease-fill hands on top of your keyboard.

>>13680140
>a competent fps gamer
>a singer, loves idols
>became a vtuber before
Wew

>>13680123
Ching chong ling long Tianmen Square.

>>13680222
you don't even need to go to any obscure sites to compare this metric. shits litteraly in holostats and even retards should know how to use it

so im guessing the reason why nene went mental with numbers was because she was just told 6th gen was coming that time?

>>13680297
In the past week, streams above 500k VOD views:
Pekora: 6
Gura: 3

>>13677299
>>13677699
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRKWniW_G-s

>>13680096
BLACK MAGIC!

so today top 10 all holos?
where are you nijis.......

>>13680351
she went mental because she has been accepting every single sponsorship deal and working herself to death

>>13680351
Probably, the last time she went mental and took a break was when she was told she wouldn't be in some concert because of her costume change

>>13680350
So Pekora has better VOD views thanks for proving my point

>>13679818
>Micomet is still capped at 50k

>>13680368
I'd prefer this honestly than letting nijien get a lick of any holo

>>13680364
And all of the VODs from Gura all grew while Pekora VODs never grew. Fucking dumbass with their single-minded views.

>>13679985
>>13680121
>>13680138
>>13680140
>>13680306

Okay, now that we have this information
How much do I have to sacrifice for a Lui-Botan collab ?

>>13680411
Your point lies within the pig shit, covered in cow stomach acid dipped in chicken cum.

>>13680430
Because Pekora streams LITERALLY every day, why would you go back to a VOD when you can watch a stream? Why would I sit to watch a 7 hour pokemon stream from yesterday when she'll stream it again for 7 hours in a few hours?

>>13680428
oh shit, i didn't think of that. only in hololive i'm excited for a hag collab

>>13680368
If NijiJP is okay this just proves that Cover management are scared of NijiEN. Selen and Ollie were probably going to do a watchalong of the holox debuts and steal all the attention.

>>13680368
Noripro is honorary holo

>>13680368
Oh isn't this that one vtuber that talking about her sex life with choco or something.

>>13680411
well yeah i was just complaining that people are to dumb to even use one of the simple numberfagging tools yet think they need to post in the # thread

Why do chumbugs get so aggressive when you don't suck Gura's dick? I literally watch Gura, I'm just not deluded enough to think she's #1 in any metric but subs

>>13680430
>>13680473
These are shitposts now, more than proving the point, stop acting like you are an actual fan

>>13680096
The reverse happens in Nijisanji when Kuzuha streams.

>>13680475
Again with the dumbass take, and thanks for proving that Gura's VOD game is much stronger dipshit. If Pekora was a lazy girl, she would not get such high VODs like Gura because her streams do not have rewatchability.

>>13680428
You don't need to. Gen 6 would collab with Gen 5 soon and in minecraft. There's another minecraft arc after the update on the 30th.

>>13680351
Nah, she just bite more than she can chew, schedule too packed and cant handle it. Seems like she wasnt fully ready for the next level grind

>>13680480
hallucination is a sign of mental illness

>>13680533
Go and suck a cow dick, asshat.

>>13680428
If they're going to follow the strat they did with gen 5, which is what they have so far, each gen 6 girl will be paired up with a gen 5 girl for their first solo collabs with a senpai.

>>13680479
Not just that
Botan can finally have her 4 member squad to do shits like L4D - B4B - PayDay
Botan-Lui-Tower-Pekker

>>13680538
>because her streams do not have rewatchability
Coming from someone who can't tell apart Japanese from Chinese your low IQ ass take is more than worthless.

>>13680594
Yeah, and your illiterate ass won't do shit.

>>13680306
Makes me excited for the next 3 if the first 2 are already high spec.

>>13680623
Keep coping while Pekora continues to get more views and viewers than Gura. Literally the chumbud cope thread, Mori also has more viewers than Gura by the way.

What is with this bizzare nonsense that's going on, did an hlg schizo make their way over or what?

Will gen6 surpass gen3?

>>13680578
oh a recommendation. how was your experience?

haachama might be starting a new training arc after getting destroyed by maou's rap.

>>13680677
Daily Gura hugbox hours

>>13680687
That's a very very tall order Anon, like, shooting for the stars.
Imo, beating Flare is possible and probably very likely, but Pekora and Marine are absolutely monstoruous, Noel probably loses on CCV, but for her Hololive is her side job, and Rushia is uncontested SC empress.
So far, at least on paper, these 2 from gen6 are starting off strong though.

>>13680743
Better than yours, bong stuffed asshole

>>13680140
Holy fricking portfolio

>>13680667
Man, the more I see it, the more I feel that HoloEN is not going to last for long. It looks bleak.

>>13680687
Gen 3 has 3 of the most powerful holos, Pekora, Rushia and Marine who is a middle ground between the previous two. I don't think it'll happen but it's the only gen with a fighting chance due to being new. Council blew their shot.

>>13680823
then continue sucking the cow dick

>>13680879
I agree, Cover will probably dissolve EN immediately after Gen 6 finishes their debuts

with a 167k and 149k holo debut, schizos have gone retarded

>Pekora debut: 5k ccv
>Pekora in 2021: 30k ccv
>Le Darkness debut: 160k ccv
>Le Darkness in 2023: 800k ccv

>>13680823
>>13680913
You can stop the samefagging now bait-kun.. we get it

>>13680751
Nah, fuck off man, this dude is beyond deranged. There's a solid argument to be made for Gura, but total VODs obviously the numberbunny wins sheerly off of her work ethic of constantly streaming and only taking a break day here and there when Idol reps or voice demand it, and I say this as someone who's been with sharkie for a year+ now.
Really, I really wish Gura would stream more, but at this point that's wishful thinking. What is undeniable though is she does have a fuckton of subs (that aren't dead, dead subs don't listen to songs to smash records, see Ai for a proper example of dead subs).
I really hate clipniggers though, at least stick around and watch streams once in a while you filth!

>>13680140

Holy fuck... I'm so curious now to see how the other 3 background are like. Lui seems OP as hell

>>13680925
Everyone wants Cover to consider not goinf for the English market, and yet they still did. It was a good move at first but now it seems like a bad idea.

https://www.famitsu.com/news/202111/26242313.html
I wonder if this will boost the game's sales.

>>13679678
People unironically will prefer japanese chuuni instead of cringe kaigai larp as anime character

>>13680975
Gura is fucking dead. There is no denying. If Pekora puts out an OG song, yoi bet your pretty ass it will go even faster than Reflect. There is no record from Gura that can't be beaten.

the true nijisanji killer, how many are left get slayed?

just go to sleep schizo

>>13680955
I hope this is bait. When Pekora debuted Hololive (and VTubers in general) weren't NEARLY as popular as they are now

>>13680879
>>13680925
>>13681003
I'll give you a C for effort but replying to yourself 3 times is a bit too much.
>>13680975
The last time Pekora took more than 3 days off it was June 2020. Her only other extended break was in January this year when she had that breakdown on stream. That break lasted 2 days. Pekora's work ethic is actually insane.

>13680879
>13680925
>13681003
Samefagging on cooldown just makes you a faggot.

>>13681064
If

they cant keep getting away with it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32RJPfqxwFo

>>13681003
Very well said, fellow chink! Cover should have stayed with China instead

>>13681045
>https://www.famitsu.com/news/202111/26242313.html
definitely, the timing is impeccable

>>13681045
>if this will boost the game's sales.
>if
Anon, the game is a cute girl doing a dark souls run. The best bet for the game to do well is when it's fully completed (I've been waiting for ages), the game would be shilled a lot by Holos.

>13681064
............
Pekorandombrain

>>13680587
Wonder if Pekora is fine with Lui. She haven't said anything about HoloX yet
If not then I guess PEBOT is done for. Rip all those PEBOT logo designs

>>13681104
could they ever get perms to play a mod like this?

>>13681104

>>13681162
FPS games aren't her thing from the beginning
Pekora likes survival/sandbox games.

>>13681152
I think Pekora would prefer to forget that song exist. Other Holos have sing it more than she did
She basically will never touch music anymore

Pekora has both the EOPs and JOPs on her side. What exactly does Gura have aside from pea for braint Cumbots and her dead as fuck channel?

After all, she is of the same ilk as Nyanners anyway. These bitches behaves like whore so why did anyone give attention to them.

>they are back to holo vs holo,
when holo x niji no longer work, with the latter failing to get 20k these days, when final nail in the coffin?

>>13681152
The thumbnail is actual debuff. Hikosan can literally make insane high quality background for FREE if Pekora ask and yet she commissioned literal who to make the thumbnail just because it look funny

Can this guy stop falseflagging as a nousagi? It's very embarrassing and I'd like my oshi not to be associated with this shit.

>13681233
End yourself already schizo

>the esl is leaking

>>13681222
She enjoys playing with towa and botan though.

>>13681242
Clearing up NijiKR and VR first, those two are like doing nothing for their markets.

>>13681222
I browse Twitter and see that people like that trio A LOT
It is something that only happen once in a while and people love it

>>13681162
like gen 5, it takes some time before she actually give a shit about new gen either because of cover mandatory or anxiety autism

>Hachama, Lamy and Shion getting easy 10ks
Which reminds me, how does nextone works? Do Cover pay up front for a license to their songs or any revenue generated from a stream, a percentage of it goes to nextone?

>>13681075
Anon it's just basic math.

>>13681045
it already did. i bought the game back when they talked about it at the start of Oktober

All in on DARKNESSS coin. We're going to the SUN bro...

>>13681292
>NijiKR
Bora took the lead, so it will happen soon. Mass graduation haven't been this much clearer

>>13681256
I think Pekora mentioned this before but she feel bad asking Hikosan for anything because she always reject Pekora's payment and Pekora don't want to feel like she's exploiting her goodwill

>>13681045
>cunny game
>was a FOTM
>actually a decent game
This game is already a success. You just know that the holos will play it after it's fully released

Let's stop falseflagging and shitposting and talk something serious.

Given the strength of the HoloX debuts *so far*, is it too early to say that HoloJP has shown they clearly have the capacity for further growth and expansion in the JP market rather than simply drawing viewers away from their other talents? Are they successfully expanding their footprint at the detriment of other companies rather than simply adding more chuubas to an already crowded field?

I don't know if I would expect to say the same with an EN or ID debut, but for JP it absolutely looks like they're experiencing healthy growth rather than unhealthy redistribution of an existing fanbase.

>>13681277
>>13681297
Yeah but the guy insist that if pekora doesn't care about new demon loli it means Pebot is done. It takes Towa and Botan a lot of time to make her feel comfortable with them so I think adding new member out of nowhere will only ruin the dynamic and make the collab awkward

>>13681392
Oh yeah, what happened to gamestop and /wst/? I remembered the hype back in January. Are people still holding or did most sold it off?

>>13681222
Pekora likes FPS games. It's her fanbase who don't like it.
Mainly, because she's bad at them. And seeing her getting owned by no names is not interesting to watch.

If it's viewer participation or PEBOT, Nousagi don't mind.

>>13681292
VR is also falling apart at the seams, if the recent surge of graduations is anything to go by.
In general the Chinese Market is abit unstable right now due to the CCP going full pants on head retarded regarding entertainment regulations

>>13681440
Tldr or didn't read

>>13681462
That is if she play alone with randoms. Her TF2 stream was fun to watch and it was a breath of fresh air from the usual FPS
Her collabs are better, well, when she feel like collabing that is

>>13681455
Why would pebot be affected though?

>>13681079
It's less work ethic, and more "my favorite relaxation activity is streaming".

>>13681483
Except VRs are graduating due to their bad managers not because of the ccp boogeyman

Iroha WILL get sucked by Shizurin's FFXIV number black hole.

>>13681462
Yeah PUBG is fine and bring good number. Maybe Apex or Overwatch here and there is not bad if she's doing it sometimes instead of spamming them like total apex addict

>>13681537
Dunno ask
>>13681162

>>13681537
It's mostly on Pekora. We all know Pekora is the type who just won't bother collabing unless she like the person enough
So if Lui join them and Pekora doesn't like her, she will pull out. That's how pebot will be affected

>>13681556
Leeeeeech

>>13681440
>adding more chuubas to an already crowded field
Based on what we see from Laplus and Lui, no the number stay the same.

>>13681552
Yeah, it's surely because of that and not because of them seeing the writing on the wall and getting out before the big daddy Xi decides to turn his gaze on them

>>13678902
real glad I watched that live. They might never be able to get it back up.

>>13681552
qrd?

>>13681537
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPK0Iw1I1PI

>>13681547
She unironically built to be a pure streamer, her streaming stamina is unmatched and she only ever take break because of her throat, not because she's tired

>>13680065
I think you're the one that needs to go back.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>149,755: Lui (Hololive)
>38,509: Fubuki (Hololive)
>37,999: Pekora (Hololive)
>37,997: Miko (Hololive)
>28,905: Subaru (Hololive)
>24,107: Fubuki (Hololive)
>23,403: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,677: Kanata (Hololive)
>16,180: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>15,261: Lamy (Hololive)
>14,925: Gatchaman (Indie)
>14,911: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>14,655: Rushia (Hololive)
>13,708: Baelz (Hololive)
>13,495: Hayato Kagami (Nijisanji)
>12,903: Suisei (Hololive)
>12,542: Kiara (Hololive)
>12,373: Botan (Hololive)
>11,044: Mito (Nijisanji)
>11,011: Ina (Hololive)
>10,970: Mio (Hololive)
>10,467: Flare (Hololive)

>>13681483
>>13681552
qrd? Better to talk about this topic than the same old timeloop of EN vs JP or CCV vs VODs. I don't know about the situation of VR atm except for the part, one member straight graduated without a stream.

I wonder how much of La+ viewer gonna be new viewers. It wouldn't be as fun if she just taking viewers from other Holos

>while you fags are busy shitflinging

>>13681232
She probably was given no choice or input option in the song creation. Just told by cover what to do. Why wouldn't she hate the song when that's the case.

Isn't that new website better for us? It also tracks Premieres.

>>13681813
>taking viewers from
kek, do you even funnel anon?

>>13681813
Is there any cunny holo beside Gura?

>>13678905
>27) Takane Lui - 149.8k
Wow, I did not expect she would get this high. I thought all the hype would have gone to La+ and then the rest of the girls, while getting decent numbers like maybe 60k or so, but didn't expect that high. So the girls really are going to surpass Gen 5 aren't they? The hoodie girl before everyone was decided seemed to have a ton of fans because of her design so I'd expect her to do extremely well too.

>>13681777
aaaahhhh start 5 minutes early you fucking newbieesssss

>>13681866

shion

>>13681866
Yes and she's streaming to 20k people right now

>>13681604
>>13681720
Towa and botan can play with the new face no problem and still be part of pebot no?

>>13681852
Don't know what you mean by "us" (as there is nothing preventing you from using it) but I would say give it a month or six to prove itself lest it get Piyo'd.

>>13681777
>Ibrahim pokemon
Goddamnit, cucked out of top 10 again

>>13681440
They're hurting their EN and ID branches by siphoning away JOP attention from the Japanese-speaking EN/ID holos

>>13681913
Ah yeah. Lol sorry I was being retarded
Guess the worst that can happen is that Towa and Botan start playing with Lui more and Pekora got left behind

Is there a site that shows the growth of views on vids?
Seen a few holo songs that suddenly started to gain a lot of views and I wanna take a closer look at it

>>13681852
up to you, only good for reference
>Reflect premiere - 23k ccv
>Control premiere - was it 50k or 70k ccv
difference in views? so it doesn't really matter how many are in the premiere

>>13681777
Even without the debut that is a stacked top 3... Pokemon strong gacha or no gacha.

>>13681777
Holo 9 - 1 Niji
Close day
And by that, I mean close for Niji from getting swiped

>>13681895
gen 5 is one of the weaker gens alongside gen 1, no surprise they're going to get left behind when a new gen debuted

Pekora does fine with hags, there will be no problem if she wants to collab with burd

is Hololive entering another golden age?

>>13681777
Gen 6 hype is doing wonders

>>13681866
All the cunny in nijis are failures. All the pedos went to quality cunny in Holos. Gura is one, but she's EN. Shion doesn't stream too much. Laplus may have the monopoly of cunny lovers in Japan and Lui would take all the Sanbaka fans kek

The debuts remind me. I wasn't there for Pekora debut. What was her interests? If she even mention it on debut stream at all

>>13680140
is she the Botan of the group, the designated tard wrangler of the gen?

>>13681777
S-SULTAN, I KNEEL!
>sorry for doubting you

EVERYONE, APOLOGIZE!

>>13681898
>>13681902
>Shion
Her voice isn't cunny enough, though.

>>13681991
Eh, Peko getting left behind means that she's gonna return to doing what she's been doing all the time

>>13682064
Wrong, lolis aren't popular in Nijisanji because their fanbase is mainly Japanese while Hololive lolis are successful because of all the weeb pedos in the West

does anybody have the ccv and day of the week of gen5 debuts?

>>13682121
I am aware. The worst that can happen is still a nothing burger
That's why I said I was retarded

>>13681777
jump ship now nijiniggers, even Konami and Mojang switched side

>>13682139
>Hololive lolis are successful because of all the weeb pedos in the West
There are 20k people on shion's stream and the chat are all in Japanese

>13682139
>More popular in Japan cope.
Straight from the nijicope list.

>>13682147
archive rep

>>13681788
>>13681712
Kendou(one of their recent graduates) listed out that he had a manager who didn't communicate well with him or respond to questions he had, which made his debut stressful as they didn't even tell him when he'd stream till last minute, plus being asked to do things in the middle of his irl job. This manager also managed other people but he didn't list who. He got a new manager who was nice and responsive, but it apparently didn't help change his mind about graduating.
Then there is Ruki's lack of inclusion in the upcoming relay singing event when she's a huge singer plus a first gen VR, but after long consideration she wanted to leave when her contract was up (in end of December) and made the decision to graduate in September, and then staff told her: sure, and you also won't be in the singing relay.
I really don't keep up with VR much but for those who do they're aware the staff can be cold/unresponsive at times. The graduation of Samael and Shiki is still not clear since Samael's last statement (don't worry I won't graduate) didn't match up with the VR official statement (I decided to graduate)
Obviously not everyone is suffering from bad managers. But people are unhappy.

>>13681777
Gen 6 zatsudan does not count??

What are the chances that the low volume of stream from niji today and yesterday on primetime was caused due to livers wanting to watch a Holo debut?

Hololive needs to get every permission for Pokemon games. Shion is putting good numbers and she is actually streaming.

>>13682262
Laplace started bfore midnight yesterday so it counted already, Lui started after midnight JST so it counts for tomorrow

>>13682262
will come in tomorrow's rank along shion, haachama, etc

>>13682256
Sounds like an issue where the managers are arrogant because they believe VR are at the top of the foodchain

>>13682047
This. I don't think there's anything to worry about on that front. Lui seems to have a good handle on Laplus, who happens to be rather energetic and radiates kusogaki. Pekora is also energetic and is pretty much a kusogaki herself. If they include Lui in PEBOT it'll be fine.

>>13682293

Man, that would be so awesome actually. I could see Shion turning into a full fledge Pokemon streamer considering how much she likes the older games as well...

>>13682321
It would be if VR is anywhere close to being the top dog, but they aren't. Honestly it sounds more like the managers don't really care about the business anymore and are biding their time before they cash out.

>>13682293
Gen2 would be very powerful if we have the gamer Aqua back, and Ayame.

>>13681969
None of the JP-speaking Holos in EN or ID do it with a high enough frequency to truly develop a large JOP following, though. It's not like, say, IRyS is going and speaking full sentences or minutes of Japanese constantly in a stream, she'll just pepper them in once in a blue moon.

I missed the debut but I got to say it's not surprising that she got 149k, hype is going strong. Nice continuation of the trend from yesterday.
The cover was pretty average, but good choice of early marketing. It's obvious now that Cover management has fronted a cover song for each girl that wants it. Money sure gives options.
The first collab with the new talents only got 68k. Only an increase of 13 k from yesterdays Laplus solo stream is pretty weak, so Lui can only add 13k more? I would expect at least 80k from this kind of thing with being so fresh and so hype. Yes, numberrot and all that.

>>13682046
They did have a slow stat anf it was riddled with problems but eventually they seem to have hit the high marks. Nene for example started out as literal who in the group and now she's topping charts throughout the company. Botan grabbed up tons of Russies, Lamy's got her own liquor plus buttload of paypigs plus Yakuza connections and Polka is Polka. It will be nice to see what will happen with the rest of the Gen 6 girls.

>>13682460
Midnight streams starting off that high are exceedingly rare.

Laplace surely got the "loli commander kusogaki" energy tuned to the right setting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dVBkMts-kM

If she continues playing this card right she has a bright future ahead

>>13682256
Yikes. I've checked their wikis, yeah, 2 graduations on 21st and 24th from gen 1 and gen 12. There's like 15 waves my god. What the fuck are they doing there? A-Soul is big, but they're a close second. Those bad reps wouldn't help them find better talents at all.

>>13682460

>Only an increase of 13 k from yesterdays Laplus solo stream is pretty weak

When they started the MC Shiraken was still going, no? Lots of other streams as well. Maybe the overlap hurt it a bit but I would never say 68k is weak at all lol

Actually I just give it more thought. Pekora should be safe from the new gen, especially Laplus
Sure she's strong, she might beat Pekora ccv but I don't think the nousagis gonna leave her that easily. The same 20-30k people who always watch her stream would still do that, she basically won't lose anything
If anything, wouldn't Shion be La+ direct competition? They attract similar kind of audiences

>>13682557
did anyone tally the total CCV at the end or did everyone coomed to death over HoloX?

In other news...

>>13682293
>Pokemon and bloodborne/soulsborne permissions wasted on nijis

>>13679985
What are the chances that Lui applied as a scenario or skit writer before a Cover scout said, ‘aren’t you friends with Mel? Why dont you apply as a chuuba?’

>>13682556
They never stopped spamming waves there unlike their other branches.
This is also Nijisanji's 3rd attempt at the Chinese market.

>>13682557
Also, all 5 in a gen are probably going to have a decent chunk of viewer overlap until people settle into their preferred oshi and the tourists fuck off as they're going to do.

2 things
1) THAT'S FUCKING ILLEGAL!
2) Where the fuck is Lamy finding these numbers? Didn't BoTW tank anyone playing it?
Or it was just Kiara

>>13682610
If the Chinese loved Nijisanji as much as they did hololive their 1st and 2nd attempts would've ended in a burning dumpster fire way worse than the Taiwan yab.

>>13682606
Non-zero, wouldn't be the first time they did it (Coco).
Also, apparently uh, she's a certified hag based off of info ferried over from /jp/.

SHION WHAT WHAT?

Where are these numbers coming from?

>>13682642
Ya fuckwit, Kiara played by FAR the WORST Mainline Zelda game, Skyward Sword, not BOTW.

Is anybody else starting to get afraid over the amount of success Cover and Hololive are seeing now? Imagining them as undisputed top dog in multiple markets, I'd be afraid to see just how long it takes for them to become complacent or for management to start getting big heads and doing even dumber shit than usual.

>>13682695
Pekomon and it's Shion

>>13682695
Shion is showing that holo can milk post game aswell.

>>13682525
Not just that, she already bullied Haachama already lmao
This is textbook heel hype

>>13682642
Her BoTW streams have been fairly decent numbers-wise, not counting the botched streams that lasted for 10 min because her PC was dying.

>>13682695
cunnysseur always win, kid

>>13682606
they're gonna start letting her write and script Hologra to test her novel thing

>>13682724
don't worry, they won't be complacent. it only gets busy, since they have less funding, and is re-investing profit.

>>13682595
I am even more sure about this since she stream today after Laplus and still maintain the usual numbers. Her audiences are most probably still there with her

I got curious about the whole Gura vs Pekora VOD discussion so i did the calculation myself of their last 30 streams. Despite a far higher average of live viewers, streaming for more, and getting buffed by big events like the sports festival, the gen3 collabs and having an overall great moment, she's still slightly below Gura. Very very close tho.

>>13682724
Yagoo, FBK, A-chan and Sora is still at the helm. I trust them. If anything, they're pretty competent.

>>13682642
Lamy's BotW streams are super fun so they do well.

>>13682832
Until Cover goes public or sells.

>>13682724
doomposters have been saying this ever since early 2020

>>13682832
going with what Fubuki said. as long as she's in the company, you can put your trust in Cover.

>>13682610
So, what made them keep their branch? Any strong/popular streamers in VR on the same realm as Bora and Selen?

>>13682724
I kind of agree. As much as I might love how Cover can stomp on Anycolor now days, it's not good without competition since that usually leads to stagnation. If Cover becomes complacent there will be some company or indie-faction overtaking it, or that's just the turning point of the vtuber trend. But since Cover is diversifying its content output they might not run that risk.

>>13682830
It's always the blue woman

>>13682830
more avg total views with less avg stream time, bretty good

>>13682724
>>13682882
>it's not good without competition since that usually leads to stagnation
Just start rooting for VSPO to finally replace Nijisanji as the #2 force in Japan then
>it's not even that far away

>>13682923
Nonsense, VERSEn is obviously going to become the next big powerhouse in Vtubing. Just trust Sony!

>>13682830
Why are blue women so fucking powerful?

>>13681162
Pebot works because the 3 of them are comfortable with each other and like fps, their skills are all over the place. They won't just randomly add people. The whole team seems build around pekora's comfort level with people.

>>13682868
Honestly, I feel like that's something she said in the heat of the moment desu
Fans at the time needs something to believe in, and being one of the more well-known and long-time talent, she can say something that fans will trust, since they would not listen to anything "official"

>>13682460
as a comparison, gen five first 2 debutants collab held at the same time slot (00 JST) had 28k peak

>>13682682
No, she was annoyed that people always asked what is her age so she just gave a random number.

>>13682878
>what made them keep their branch?
it is a fucking hell to take your money out of china, once youve put it in. Might not be the only one, but thats one cause.

>>13682695
currently holds 24k ccv

>>13682878
those chinese bank investors wouldnt like that

kek, Kanata firing a warning shot. Would a drama caused by this help Nijisanji incline or something?

Will Roa ever come back?

Looking at what's happening to VR now, part of me wonders if Hololive today would be universally worse off if they had remained in China and the Taiwan yab had never happened, or if there still would've been some benefits from it despite all the negatives of trying to operate in China these days.

>>13682975
I have complete trust in Fubuki just like how nijifags have their trust in Mito. Fubuki basically threw away half of her income and stick her middle to the chinks by mentioning Coco during the Taiwan arc to show unity. She didn't have to say anything yet she did it anyway since she has principles. Sora preached about the girls need unity in order to function together. No one dares to defy Sora.
https://realsound.jp/2021/11/post-908874.html
https://litter.catbox.moe/tl9cf0.pdf

>>13682724
>Complacency + arrogance
we had it all along

>>13683151
kys dramafag, it was a joke

>>13683183
The China branch was cut off before it created roots in the hearts of the fandom. When it hits Moona was barely bridging ID to JP and the general audience mostly didn't even know there was a Chinese branch.

If it had happened 2 months down the line, specially if it had happened after an eventual EN-CN collab things would get much uglier

>>13682830
Yep, that's the kind of data that's used in the views / time cope chart. I call it cope since it's always called that when posted, not that the metric is worthless but it just shows one story. The main problem with Gura isn't her views in itself but her output. She might get slightly more views/video, but the overall view generation will be behind, case and point.
New Views 2021 (4 jan-27 nov) so far:
Gura: ~149 million
Pekora: ~205 million
Up her output and it wont be a question who generates the more views, but so far she only wins the average / video.

>>13683151

>Would a drama caused by this help Nijisanji incline or something?

No? She mentioned this laughing and right after that Iroha appeared on her chat too. Roa/Meiro situation was another level of a shitshow

>>13683196
What is Suzuki talking about and what is the date from this article?

>>13683019
>>13683116
kek so they're not losing and gaining money, just being stable? I wonder how much those livers really earn, it feels like they're a farm to generate money.

>>13683151
I know you're shitposting but to the newfags reading, this is an obvious joke. Kanata loves all her kouhai and senpai. Especially after losing Coco, she's even more protective of them now.

>>13683236
>>13683270
Sorry, I mean would a Holo using gozaru cause drama with Nijis, not intra Holo drama

>>13683306
CCP has cracked down on the amount of revenue streamers can bring in in particular with their new regulations, so I'd imagine that doesn't help in trying to create a sustainable venture by any means.

>>13683301
>https://www.moguravr.com/anycolor-vtuber-producer-interview/
Oct 2021

>>13683329
>drama with Nijis
what the fuck can they do?

>>13682801
>script writing

>lore as the mastermind schemer strategist behind the secret org

Im ready

>>13683183
>>13683249
In a peaceful world where CCP didn't exist, Hololive grew to greater heights with the help of the chinese. Hololive moments isn't a prick and is able to cooperate with Vtuber tengoku and Sushi in the clipping scene. Civia finally had her 3D debut on Japan with the coof not existing, and danced along with Aqua and Mea.

>>13683382
That recent? I thought it was a thing from like 2020 or early in the year.

>>13683400
maybe she's part of hologra already. time to rewatch hologra from August til now and compare them to the older episodes

Mommy route is always a hard path for vtuber

>>13683196
>Nijisanji tills the fields and sows the seeds of vtubing because they love it and want to see the scene thrive
>Cover leeches
Only one of these two companies is going to be remembered fondly 20 years down the line and it certainly isn't going to be Cover.

>>13683329

Oh, well, nope. Using gozaru is a old asf thing and definitely not a characteristic exclusive to some Niji vtubers.

>>13683196
>>13683301
>>13683382
lmao, being deluded enough to say that you're trying to sow the seeds of the vtuber market as this benevolent overlord while you're in the middle of being eaten alive by the competition thanks to your poor business decisions

>>13683520
He's stuck in Nijisanji's glory days.

>>13683257
>but she streamed less than pekora
weird how i dont see this argument on the months that marine beats pekora

>>13683462
COPE

>>13683520
>cheering business practices that are killing the industry
When vtubing dies because of Cover being isolationist selfish pricks that don't give back to the community don't get surprised

why the fuck is Towa closer to NijiKR than actual Niji? it makes no sense to me that Towa gives more fucks about Bora graduating than a lot of Nijis.

https://twitter.com/kazamairohach/status/1464604155494821889
Unity?

>>13683462
>Implying none of them leeched from the success of the four heavenly knights
Anon...Kizuna AI has dead subs but her name is still well known.

>>13683550
>on the months that marine beats pekora
me again, on the months that marine beats pekora in median ccv

>>13682975
anon, anyone whose been around pre-taiwan yab will tell you Fubuki is pretty much incorruptible and a prime supporter of Hololive and Holo talents.

>>13683414
Alas, the CCP and the dagger of backstabbing would always be there, and anyone who's worked in mainland china would tell you much the same: Don't trust the Chinese beyond what you can be present and in person for, they'll scam you the instant you take your eyes off them and stab you in the back while they're at it.

>>13683543
He's literally talking about Niji's vtubing academy initiative which they debuted recently, what has Cover done for vtubing recently besides poach talents and block collabs?

>>13683562
>don't give back to the community don't get surprised
why did they not produce a song with Boogey Voxx?

>>13683569
>The rrat of HoloJP now becoming the home of rejected NijiJP gets stronger
Guess is the trade for making NijiEN the home for HoloEN rejects

>>13683382
That's too recent lol. What are they trying to imply? That Niji didn't care about their numbers and only focused on the growth of the industry? But, they didn't do shit for the past year for the whole industry. They were turtling/gatekeeping when alot of new viewers especially EOPs were passing by.

https://youtu.be/WFWw821wozI
another music remix thing probably led by A-chan. this time, it's a jazz variant. what do you think?

>>13683637
That's Mori, not Cover

>>13683636
>poach talents
2views, not thousands
>block collabs
thou shall reap what you sow

>13683562
oh no we have a beggar here

>>13683562
Not being a literal whore like Melody Cover's management doesn't care

>>13683329
Gozaru to my knowledge hasn't been used by vtubers but they're frequently used in animes. Probably a cultural thing in Japan.

>>13683702
Mori is hired by Cover through hololive, your point is invalid. Next shitpost.

>>13683700
These are nice, I could see myself pulling out a book and cracking open some drinks on a cold winter's day listening to this.

>>13683749
It's a Mori initiative not a Cover initiative, their management had jackshit to do with it

>>13683650
>rejected
>become more succesful
She already got half of Shizurin's subs kek
>>13683700
I always like it. Those cameo on the MV is pretty nice.

>>13683595
Like I said before, Fubuki is the alpha bitch of Hololive and puts the talents before the company. As long as Fubuki is enjoying herself and not raising concerns, Hololive will be fine.

Is there a site that tracks a streams/songs growth in views per day?
Playboard only tracks for like a week or so...

>>13683562
>don't give back to the community
Hololive literally introduced vtubing to the whole world faggot. Nijisanji could never top that accomplishment.

>>13683700
I listened to the whole thing last night, love it more than the Sunshine album
>https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kUjTWtr6OVFCasexnG-5fzvVeFF2MkKrc

>>13683562
which cover business practice is killing vtubing? collab bans?

>>13683183
I very much doubt that. With big daddy Xi and international relations being the way they are, an incident will eventually happen that would force cover to choose between bending over backwards for china or appeasing their western and domestic audience. It's just a question of when, not if, so if anythinbg it's actually good that the Taiwan incident happened so early and the chinks forced cover's hand to cut off the chinese market before they could integrate themselves in the minds of the general community.

>>13683787
I thought Cover is blocking collabs, but they let it happen? particularly for an indie, in the same category, how do we cope?

>>13683681
>bring vtubing into the mainstream by pioneering clothing store and convenience store collabs
>didn't do shit for the industry
do your reps

>>13683855
The only collab ban that I (and many others) will rightly crucify management for is the EN collab ban with Coco, not that I don't understand the underlying reasoning behind such a ban, but fuck was it stupid to block and ghost her for so long.
Outside of that? The EN scene deserves to be scorned outside of those that get VERY heavily vetted.

>>13683329
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=degozaru

>>13683794
>>13683768
>>13683837
these performed surprisingly well too.
here are the previous two
https://youtu.be/XD1t7JHbge0 - Lofi & chill mix with 2.7 mil views
https://youtu.be/VPBqpyub4Kc - bossa nova & jazz mix with 980k views

>>13683562
>don't give back to the community
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000520.000030268.html
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000386.000030268.html
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000410.000030268.html
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000467.000030268.html
https://panora.tokyo/panora.tokyo/75999/HPC-index.html

>>13683876
Why are NijiEN collabs blocked?

>>13683636
VTA is a waste of money and time. Why bother when you could always hire or scout talents from an art college who's interested in streaming and becoming a vtuber? Streaming isn't that hard of a skill.

>>13683878
That's Kizuna Ai, not Nijisanji. Fucking leeches and credit grabbers.

>>13683562
Without Cover vtubing wouldn't even be where it's at today, you retard. Nijisanji pales in comparison to that feat.

>>13683550
Which argument? That there is never a gura vs marine tribal fight? The simple reason is that chumbuds and nousagi both are the most tribal and has the most to gain from the tribal fighting in regards to numbers. If one side would "win" the other side of discussing numbers is invalidated and the ranking of that chuuba falls. And that's why this is a never ending time loop since neither side can agree to the other sides points without the risk of losing face. There is no such rivalry between pirates and chumbuds. And of course the baits towards both factions makes it even harder to get a consensus on anything.
t.nousagi

>>13683921
The vtubing community, retard, who gives a shit about feel-good charity scams.

>>13683922
Nijisanji doesn't want to risk getting hated by their Chinese fans.

>>13683922
oh there we go, nijinigger exposed. why does it matter? Gura have not collabed with anyone outside, but she's doing fine. Your point?

>>13683963
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000520.000030268.html ?

>>13683922
They had Selen collab with their chinese branch recently.

>>13683893
in hindsight, this was so fucking dumb but I understand why EN branch was so paranoid. back-to-back-to-back dramas during those periods. from holocaust to Aloe and finally Taiwan. it makes sense why the EN management didn't want Coco to collab and have the spams on the newly-founded branch

>>13683963
Ah. Seething 2view exposed, go cry some more collab beggar.

>>13683963
they got literal millions of eyes to know about vtubing for the first time anonchama, they even grew communities on fucking russia and korea for godsake

>>13684005
>animators and riggers = vtubers
Are you retarded?

>>13683906
These mixes always gets into my auto play. The strat works.

>>13684071
it helps that they're actually good and not some half-baked bullshit

>>13683963
The only relevant vtubing communities are Hololive and their adjacents. The rest are just opportunists waiting to get scouted into Hololive.

>>13683951
we both know that most times people arguing about it are neither chumbuds or nousagis
t. pekora's real boyfriend (real)

>>13684070
They are part of "vtubing community"

>>13684127
Sorry but not Hololive, not relevant.

>>13680140
HoloJP is pretty much a better place to work for than AKB48. The ceiling and floor for HoloJP are higher than AKB48. No wonder they can get people with these portfolios to join them.
HoloEN, on the other hand, is still a niche in NA. Hollywood and Broadway are much more lucrative to apply for. EN top portfolios are either meme generators or art generators.
Ever since JP2, each gen always has at least one collab organizer.
Gamers: Mio
JP3: Flare & Marine
JP4: She left, and Kanata tries to fill in the gap
JP5: Botan
JP6: Lui
EN1: Ame & Kiara
EN2: Baelz

JP6 needs at least one more organizer if they want to be the best gen.

>>13683809
>t. newfag
Nijisanji was already doing that by establishing global branches way before Cover, back in the day Cover would only ever venture into a market after Nijisanji had first opened a branch there

>>13683963
>countless conventions
>https://gamebiz.jp/news/337914
hololive keeps strengthening the presence of vtubers to the world, what other cope do you need?

>>13682642
>Didn't BoTW tank anyone playing it? Or it was just Kiara
to be fair no. mumei got some good numbers if I'm not mistaken, other botw lamy streams did good asw well and kiara was playing skyward sword

>>13683566
Because they’re friends and because as a foreign branch the relationship between nijikr and nijijp is complicated. Much easier to deal with an external third party, although it is curious that Towa and Bora have never had a solo collab. My guess is that there’s a Niji policy with external solo collabs vs multicollabs.

>>13684231
so it derailed from whoever is making better value, to who did it first, but both failed anyway

stop kissing niji's ass, jump ship now

>La+ lives in a tiny messy one room apartment with garbage bags full of monster energy cans taking up most of her room
>She literally talked about one of her garbage mountains falling over so she had to clean up to be able to roll out her futon in one of her past live's streams
>She's probably dirt poor
is this how Yagoo makes pledge their loyalty? by pulling them out of their shithole and showing them how good the world can be as long as she is under Hololive?

>>13680975
Clipfags will watch her clip streams (karaoke).

Can we agree that there's no hope for Nijisanji's future?

What kind of name is Nijisanji?

>>13682642
kiara played skyward sword for shit numbers, not botw

>>13684188
Lui seems to have a strong portfolio and experience in the field. She's also the designated leader iirc of the gen 6, La+ is only the founder but not leader. I'm pretty sure her experiences would come in handy. She's like Botan.

Also, are there still any 3DPD idol groups left in Japan? I haven't heard of any news of them in ages. If it's true, Hololive might have taken over the idol industry just because hiding behind an anime avatar seems like the best benefits for any talents to prevent unnecessary stalking and weirdos from following them.

>>13684188
>JP5: Botan
that used to be true until she groomed Lamy into being the leader of gen 5 because she's so damn lazy

>>13684231
kek

>>13684392
>Ni
destined to be #2

>>13684341
would make a great roomate for aqua

>>13684341
Yeah, I can hear all the trash in the background during yesterday's zatsu. She's gonna be hit with a lot of SC money once that's opened.

>>13684341
Nose???

>>13684454
they will die from suffocation

>>13684341
SaviorFag EX... ACTIVATE

>>13684341
>is this how Yagoo makes pledge their loyalty?
Unironically, yes. A rich bitch doing it for fame alone would just cause one yab after another, cause discord among the talents, and likely stop caring about streaming pretty quickly. A dirt poor peasant full of social issues will be much more motivated and grateful to be in hololive.

>>13684409
They exist, but I don't think they have global reach so why the hell would we EOPs know anything about them?

>>13684341
Watch her first post debut stream, you can HEAR the trash.

>>13684575
>A rich bitch doing it for fame alone would just cause one yab after another, cause discord among the talents, and likely stop caring about streaming pretty quickly.

Ayame....

>>13684409
Kpop made them irrelevant to the west

>>13684341
Yagoo's
House
Of
Broken
Dolls
It
Just
WORKS.
Also wtf is up with Cunny and living in filthy conditions?