/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>13383427
>so much too
*so much FUN too.

>>13383427
I think the real-life sister of one of the most Anti'd members of Nijisanji is a huge can of worms the company doesn't want to deal with. Chihiro is contractually obligated not to disclose any info, but Hiyori isn't. It's probably in the best interests of everyone that this is nipped in the bud.

It's not really a 'Who was in the wrong?' discussion, it's just a mistake resolved amicably between company and talent. Not a big deal.

>>13383427
This shouldn't even be a discussion really, the sister is way too much of a risk and frankly Vtubers should preferably never ever get their family involved in Vtubing(unless they're also real chuubas)

Real life family members shouldn't be in the public like that even if they're just using an image and not posting any real life shit. Let me remind you that Chihiro's antis attack all her friends, would you really want them to have direct access to her fucking family?

>>13383427
Is this the fabled Nijisanji freedom I keep hearing about? Talk about a draconian black company. Making totally unrelated people delete their twitter accounts.

>>13384155
>totally unrelated people
Based retard.

Nijisanji is in the wrong and a black company.
Just now they're doing it "to protect her"? After not caring about any of her other anti's, or when she asked for help all the other times from the company, no - just now they're doing this to get rid of something Chi-chan wants. As she said, Niji only behaves as a company when it's convienent for themselves, and then calls the talents individual contractors for everything else, leaving them to fend for themselves. No wonder she was thinking about quitting.

Well Mamatsuri has an account...

>>13383427
I mean her sister doesn't do shit other than say she's a huge fan and use it as a normal chat-and-retweet account.
Chihiro would be in the wrong saying it's her sister but the sister hasn't done anything wrong at all.
but then considering >>13383903
honestly it's probably for her own good.

>>13383427
Anycolor is a black company.

>>13383427
innocent this time, others will abuse it if you let it slide now
delete and be done with it
sis could propably make a living as a 3-digit indie with just this

>>13383427
Yikes.

>>13384237
If her sister wants to chat with fans she can just have her on stream and have her talk to chat in a zatsu so the Apexfaggots won't harass her. Instead of leaving a personal attack point to Chihiro and her family at all times on Twitter. Because if something happens it becomes Anycolor's fault.

The Twitter JUST got deleted. Glad I grabbed a screenshot in time.

>>13384646
>Anycolor should have complete control of everything that all relatives of their employees do in their free time!

>>13385164
No. If her sister just existed without saying "Hey I'm related to Chihiro" it wouldn't have been a problem.

>Chihiro
Ah yes the girl with who got shat on everytime she played Apex wrong.

Can't she just create another account and not mention being her sister at all? There's nothing stopping her from interacting with chii-chan's fans if she doesn't out herself, unless she really wants to do this from the position of being her sister

>>13385317
She never mentioned being Chihiro's sister directly, just strongly hinted at it.

black company shit right there

>>13385379
So Chii-chan just outed her on her Twitcast?

>>13385235
If Anycolor actually properly handled any of the numerous accounts of harassment, fabrications, and slander that their talents (which caused some to graduate) and Chi-chan have faced, instead of telling them they're independent contractors handle it yourself, and only popping up their head to kill Chi-chan's sister's twitter account of all things, it wouldn't have been a problem.

>>13385379
well don't strongly hint it then

>>13385469
Basically, yeah. But it was obvious enough for management to have gotten involved in the first place.

>>13385492
You don't watch Nijisanji so you're not aware that they get help nor do you understand the circumstances that Lulu graduated in.

Weird situation. Feels like the kind of thing they should've gotten permission for instead of doing under the table.
Because it feels wrong to say "Yes, Anycolor has the right to demand a liver's relative delete their account", but on the other hand Chiihiro tied it to her character by pointing toward it (however indirectly), and at that point I can't say "No, Anycolor can't do anything about it" either. Her sister could say any sort of dumb shit and now oops that's tied directly to their liver now.

>>13384646
Yeah I think it's a kind of awkward situation. It's not as simple as "anycolor bad" when you consider how shit anycolor has been in the past about protecting their talents let alone expecting them to protect (younger) relatives. It probably is for her own good in the long run.

>>13385164
>>13385317
This pretty much.
Chihiro shouldn't have followed her back or hinted at hiyori being her sister either. Just treat her like a normal fan in the public eye.

>>13383889
Lulu streamed with her sis and father

>>13385885
Vtubers streaming with family members isn't that uncommon in general, but this does seem like a step beyond. It's like the worst parts (when it comes to safety) of both having real family join in sometimes and having a basically-public-knowledge roommate account.

>>13385885
Qu qalia has played apex with her sister.

>>13385885
Yes and? I don't like it. Didn't like Mamatori streams either

>>13385885
Having someone on stream is completely different from antis having direct access to their families

So, can someone explain me why this is remotely a problem? This is black company shit, Mamatsuri exists and nothing has happened to matsuri, let the girl have fun with her sister if they both like it holy shit I'm angry can someone save chihiro

>>13385885
And many others have had their family on stream. When the stream is turned off none of the fans can contact the family members. Wheras here Hiyori can have anyone talk to her because she stupidly has her account open.

Nijiggers your anycolor cocksucking is showing

>IP count doesn't go up
Hmm...

>>13386071
because it's chihiro

>>13386162
>it's cocksucking to not want Chihiro's family to get schizos
Ok.

>>13383889
>Mamatsuri literally has live2D model and interviewed by Tamaki
>Pekomama reveal
Not shitting on Nijifags though, but I do felt bad for Chihiro

>>13383427
>The problem is, officially Anycolor does not acknowledge the fact that the character Chihiro Yuki has a little sister.
I checked the wiki and she mentioned her siblings in Mahosuzu Radio last year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_l0MEtSE6c

And the profile pic matches this image:
https://twitter.com/CcSLh64A4xAdn6C/status/1391091519961001987

>>13386379
It's the difference between what the character says and what the company says. Think of how Coco claimed her tail was a buttplug but her artist vehemently denied it.

>>13385972
>>13386013
>>13386062
Im just saying i want to have sex with Lulu's sister

>>13386344
>>13385885
Are you retarded or something? How does this disprove my fucking opinion that I don't think real family should get involved with Vtubers, I didn't say it never happens I said it shouldn't happen

>>13386344
>>13386379
Being on stream is not the same as having a twitter account, are you being dense on purpose?

>>13386071
2 problems
1. The obvious safety issues. And while like you said, stuff like Mamatsuri exists and arguably having family on in general is a risk, in THOSE cases the companies are given the chance to look at it and go "Yeah, we're willing to have this even know it'll be on our heads if something bad happens". In this case that risk was just given to them without asking.
2. Brand control shit, because ultimately Anycolor IS a company, and having someone they have no real control over or even contact with publicly attached to one of their "characters" is just not a good idea.
I can see why Chii-chan thought it would be fine, but if I was Anycolor I'd shut it down too. I also WOULD have given permission if it was asked for beforehand, but I can't say that they'd do the same.

>>13385782
Don't care to argue for the others, if you think that they graduated for the lols and then continued creating content independently that's fine. I mostly just watch Chi-chan.
Though, do tell me what
もっと守って欲しい事、助けて欲しい事、運営らしくして欲しい事…いっぱいあるのに…
なんかずるいよね…こういう時だけ『ちひろさんを守るため』って言ってくるの…
結局最終的に自分でやんなきゃいけないじゃん、誹謗中傷だって…
都合の良い所だけ個人事業主だからって言われるのしんどい…
今までいっぱい我慢してきたけど…
都合のいい時だけ企業、都合のいい時だけ個人事業主…
一期生はどんどん契約を変えられましたよそれは
まじでよく続いてるわ、一期生…
やめようと思った事はちぃろが一番多いかもしれない…
Pray tell me how I'm supposed to interpret this. (Also, yes, I went to get a transcript from 5ch not going to write it myself from memory)

>>13386525
>are you being dense on purpose?
They most likely are. Commonly referred to as "trolling"

>>13383427
This is really what I dislike about the company even though I love the livers. On other agencies, having a personal account where they could vent to relieve stress is completely okay as long as it's separate to your vtuber account. Hell, even Yagoo said that being in the entertainment industry means you can't remain anonymous forever. So I really don't understand why Anycolor would do this. Shouldn't they prioritize protecting Chii-chan from antis rather than focusing on these non-issues to not repeat the Lulu situation all over again?

>>13386627
>On other agencies, having a personal account where they could vent to relieve stress is completely okay as long as it's separate to your vtuber account
? Plenty of Nijisanji livers have side accounts too

>>13386627
Anon that is her irl sister, Nijis have vent/sub accounts

If you wanna make it less obvious try to word your arguments differently. Were you that traumatized by some retards trolling on /jp/ or something? Fucking 5ch whistlebower nigger kek

>>13386627
>completely okay as long as it's separate to your vtuber account
That's the problem. It didn't just EXIST, Chihiro basically went "Hey my sister's account is over there btw". Anycolor telling someone to delete an account just because they're related to their employee would be obviously, inarguably shit, but if she's going to tie it to her vtuber identity I can get why they would be upset.

>>13386589
Never said they graduated for the lols and how on earth is anyone supposed to take you seriously when you pull transcripts from the board that loves to write made up reviews and articles.

>>13386808
>how on earth is anyone supposed to take you seriously when you pull transcripts from the board that loves to write made up reviews and articles
By, you know, actually watching her? And knowing that's what she said? How are you this retarded.

>>13383427
Let me get this straight, Hiyori isn't contracted by Nijisanji right? Why are they forcing Chihiro to meddle with this? Isn't this blackmail or at least bullying just because Chihiro is beholden to the company?

Reset your IPs if you're going to samefag so hard retards

>>13386915
lol

>>13386915
You fucking retard you're still using the same device/IP Hahaha

My assumption is that they're trying to protect the sister given how many antis Chihiro has.
Possibly over-reaction due to Lulu leaving due to stalkers and they don't want family members getting caught in that fuckfest.

>>13386800
Why are they using Chihiro against her sister though? That account is owned by her sister and I believe she's not under Anycolor. Shouldn't the proper course of action would be to tell Chihiro to stop promoting people no affiliated with the brand instead of using her against her family to delete that account?

>>13386858
Alright, link it then.

>>13387089
From the OP it was a twitcast, which I think means there's no archive. Surely no one would take advantage of this to lie about what she said without being able to be proven wrong.

>>13386982
>My assumption is that they're trying to protect the sister
Isn't this harassment at this point? Why would they force someone not contracted under them to delete their account for some imaginary threat?

>>13387089
https://twitcasting.tv/chihiro_yuki23/movie/710593608
Wonder why I used a transcript from someone writing what she said at the time of
>>13387171
It's amazing how then no-one disputes these version of events or quotes over at any of the Nijisanji 5ch threads, and it's only the people here who didn't fucking watch her are disputing what happened. Wonder why that is.

>>13386013
So? Then don't watch it. I think it's really reprehensible when companies start taking over their talents' personal lives.

>>13387010
>using Chihiro against her sister
>>13387194
>harassment
You're making this far more dramatic than it is.
I was going to respond in more detail, but then I realized you were the same faggot posting on cooldown.

>>13386080
Well, you can turn off the stream, you can block people on Twitter too. But this isn't about that.
That Twitter account isn't owned by Nijisanji nor from one of their talents, why do they insist taking control over it when no rights are being violated.

>>13384223
https://twitter.com/sJMSn7ENE4rZ3vH

>>13387514
Regardless of their motivation (which I do think was good, if more along the lines of "We aren't willing to be responsible if something happens because of this" than pure altruism), frankly unsubtly tying your account to a liver while using fan art of her family as your icon DOES arguably violate their copyright as well. So there's that.

Anycolor didn't do anything wrong desu, having a relative on stream is one thing but having that relative make a social media account and all but directly say they're your sibling is the point where the company should step in. If she truly wants to chat with her sister's fans then she's free to make another account and not hint at being related to someone.

>>13387514
To protect her? Or do you think they're sitting there thinking of ways to make her sister sad. This all could have been avoided if they both never mentioned they were related to each other or even hinted at it.

>>13387722
No, it doesn't. That's not how copyrights work. But even if it does, shouldn't they deal with the party directly involved and not use Chihiro? Is Chihiro's sister a minor?

>>13387893
Kek, why would they have her sister's contact info? And why would they ask her for it when she can just give her sister the message

>>13387893
I mean sure, they COULD'VE sent her a formal C&D over it, but that's even shittier (and more work) than just saying "Hey Chihiro, tell your sister she has to shut it down".

Bruh, this is just sad. But at the very least now Chihiro has a reason to randomly cry on stream and bait dono.

>>13383427
Black company.

>>13387876
They couldn't even protect Lulu and wouldn't assist Shiba in her dire need and now you're saying they do this shit for randoms? Is Anycolor larping as a day care facility now lmao

>>13387228 (me)
No response I guess from the people doubting me, which I'll take as we agree that was what she actually said. No-one else seems to have actually watched the twitcast but me here I guess. Anyway, I wish the other person samefagging would shut the fuck up because the issue isn't that Niji should shut down the sister's account or not, that's morally grey, it's that this is the "help" Chi-chan fucking gets. This is the time they say "it's to protect chihiro-san" and act like a company while the rest of the time they just fuck off and leave her for the wolves.

>>13386525
Anon, Mamatsuri has a Twitter account

Anycolor did nothing wrong.

>>13388303
What the hell are they supposed to do against Junfags anyway, other than hire mods. It's actually strange that there's no mods for those who get anti-d a lot, meaning other livers step in to moderate the chat but I don't hear that happening for Chihiro specifically only other Nijis.

>>13388257
how they couldn't protect lulu when it's a fact that all stalkers went to jail? Don't change history here.

>>13387988
>>13388003
Isn't this a text book example of job blackmail?

>>13388257
But they went to court for Lulu
>>13388303
I'm sorry but what exactlt did she need help with? I don't understand what she means by that? Dislikes? People larping as her fans in other streamers chat? What are they supposed to do about that?

>>13388303
Nobody cares about your black company whore.

>>13388380
A good way to start this would be to formally acknowledge that there is indeed a harassment going on with one of their livers? Basically you put pressure on Jun without calling him out.

>>13388410
No, not really

>>13388537
Then why are you posting in a thread about her fag

>>13388303
sorry to hear that dude
since Nji isnt that popular most poeple are not even aware of the situation chihiro has been or do not care.

>>13388582
Are you trolling or just that short-sighted?

>>13388257
Ah, Lulu and Shiba. Top choices for bait about Anycolor from people who have never watched them.

>>13388598
I care about Chihiro, you sociopath, not the company.

>>13388410
Yes, yes really.

>>13388438
Can you even terminate other people's Youtube accounts?
Example:
https://twitter.com/love_ricer21/status/1444959023367815168?s=21
This guy put on the name and icon of a Chihiro fan and shat up other people's chats during CR Cup
>>13388582
Every single fucking time she mentions them or someone else alludes to the shit she gets, they get riled up even worse. When they were in the same tournament nothing happened until the semi-vtuber in Jun's team talked about Nijisanji then the Jun defense squad rolled out. Then after they learned the dude also played with Nijisanji before, they (tried to) shit up his chat too.

>>13388663
Nope

>>13388658
You called Anycolor a whore?

>>13388658
>>13388537
>Nobody cares about your black company whore.
>I care about Chihiro, you sociopath, not the company.
Let me get this straight, these are both you?

chii loves her antis more than her fans, anycolor honestly needs to keep her on a tigther leash.

>>13388658
Nijisanji isn't a company, anycolor is.

we can't really do much about this so just leave jp fans to deal with it

So it was definitely chiichan making a personal twitter and pretending to be her own sister right

>>13388582
Yeah, let's just call out the most popular JP streamer with the most obnoxious fans. Surely this won't backfire on us in the long run.

>>13388936
Spreading awareness is also an important part of curbing injustices like this.

>>13383427
Oh no an account who talks about anime and manga. How will Anycolor ever recover?

Honestly thinking about this more, it just seems bad for everyone
I can see why Chii-chan would think it was fine
But I can also say for sure that if I was staff I'd go "There's a MILLION ways this could go wrong, we need to shut this the fuck down"
But I can ALSO see why Chihiro would be upset after being told that, because yeah, that would fucking suck.

Don't wanna be too mean buuut... Chii-chan kinda is a bitch. Both in the pussy bitch and annoying bitch way. Idk maybe she gets some sick satisfaction from egging antis on or maybe she's just that retarded

if antis targeted her and she has a breakdown on that twitter account it will also be anycolors' fault for not stepping in. There's no winning move.

>>13389191
yes I can't wait for this to be added to the rolodex of shitposting on /vt/ among the likes of >>13388257

>>13388303
Haven't antis always been a pain in the ass to deal with? Seems like the bigger companies don't want to hire chat mods since that means they'd have to provide mods for everyone under the company, and for Anycolor that's a lot of people who may not even need them. The other alternative is making your members mods but that's a can of worms by itself. YT hides dislikes by default now anyways so they lost one of their main weapons.

>>13389377
Nah. People here aren't that petty.

>>13383427
The """fans""" (AKA Holofags with no stake in this) who think this is remotely a big deal. Next question.

>>13389432

>>13389432
Oh god, you didn't see the threads when Yuya from KR graduated, did you? She briefly posted a picture from a hospital and the thread was full of holofags saying they hope she dies. Or the people saying they hoped Pomu would die from her surgery, and hell, even the Shiba bait is using her actual health issues for tribalistic shitflinging (even though I'm sure a good 70% of the people saying it don't even know she's back, so for all they know she's still suffering from it).

>>13389370
they let this boil for too long.
should have let her have some mods at least

>>13389354
>or maybe she's just that retarded
Most likely that. Out of all the coocoo clock chuubas I've seen, she's the one that I genuinely believe is an actually autistic or something. She's cute but it feels weird watching her whenever she loses her emotional shit on stream.

>>13383889
This.

>>13388936
They know it was purely in Anycolor's best interests. Anyone with a brain knows it's too much of a risk and the only people wanting to save shit are Holofags who don't know any better.

>>13389605
She didn't give massive details of her condition but when she came back she had to leave to take medicine and stuff like that. She is better now and it's thanks to being able to sell VP as Shiba, unless people think vtuber agencies should be covering health insurance now which, fucking kek if that was required all companies would tank
>>13389611
She should just have friends on standby to mod for her, Kaida Haru mods chats sometimes during vtuber tourneys if someone is getting spammed, not saying she should use him as he's not available all the time but it's baffling how it's been over a fucking year or two and neither Anycolor nor Chii-chan will get actual mods, the girl didn't even put sub only mode for most of her anti attacks. Meanwhile Tsunderia chats are half mod half chat.

>>13389191
Get ahold of yourself faggot. This is literally a nothingburger.
>>13389611
You don't have to respect the livers' wishes. Do whatever you feel like.

>>13389859
If she at this point hasn't given mod power to any trustworthy member of her community then I am in total agreement with >>13389354 and she's being a whiny retard

>>13390025
Because she is and always has been.

>>13390025
do they even allow them to have mutliple fans as mods?

>>13389859
>unless people think vtuber agencies should be covering health insurance now
From the way people talk here they seem to think Anycolor should've paid for all her medical fees just because, which is insane and in no way a reasonable expectation of them.
In a normal job I'd get saying, like, "They should give her a raise/paid time off/advance pay to help out" but none of those are possible with the way being a Niji liver works. The best thing they could do, and the thing they DID do, was point people to where people could donate to her if they wanted to help.

>>13389611
chii is the one doing the cooking.

>>13390099
Yes, I remember clearly amamya recruiting mods from her members (and sent a reminder to them during ARK). Kanae also have senior members be mods, although my memory is vague on this one.

>>13390025
Livers and vtuber/Apex friends have spanners when they talk in her chat but no one is there all the time during her 12 hr endurance streams where she'd lose a bunch then faggots would make fun of her and make her cry. No one did anything, not her, her friends, staff, managers, nothing. It's fucking confusing, I love her but it seems like retardation on literally everyone's behalf. It isn't like it's waves of antis either, it's just a bunch of leeches with nothing better to do other than monitor her and only flares up if Jun gets involved with vtubers again
>>13390227
Kanae has old members and big/long time fans as his mods, even has someone who edits his thumbnails for him

>>13390365
You should honestly just let Chihiro fend for herself. There's nothing you can do about this and this incident is no different than others where it was a nothingburger.

>>13390106
I don't know what makes Anycolor special but why is it that other agencies could provide wages, hazard pay, basic insurance plan and they don't? Is it a Japanese kind of thing?

>>13390365
And what prevents her from choosing some trustworthy members that would be there for the whole stream and modding them? I'm sorry but it's really hard not to put blame on her in this

Why is it that whenever I hear something about someone in Nijisanji getting into some weird stuff it's always Chihiro. Somehow it's always her or something related to her.
What is it about Chii-chan that she such a yab magnet.

I don't know much about nijisanji but this just makes them look like a shitty company.
looks like their reputation around here is well deserved. I just feel bad for their talents.

>>13390652
Menhera retard(or possibly attention seeking genius with great acting)

>>13390537
No corpo offers insurance. Wages i agree tough

>>13390652
Not a yab magnet. She's a doormat same with Pomu. Shiishii wouldn't allow this to happen to her.

>>13390652
yeah she would have graduated or even fired if she's on hololive with how much of a yab machine she is

>>13390537
I have no idea what hazard pay would even entail here, and I don't know if they do or don't provide insurance, but that aside
They don't provide wages because their livers basically work on commission. They get their cut of any superchats/merch sales, which I think is the standard. Pretty sure Hololive providing a wage is an exception, and it's not exactly high (I remember them making that Kanata shirt specifically because she hadn't gotten monetized and she needed money from SOMEWHERE).

>>13390652
She's an awful Apex player who makes up excuses every time she loses and is unlikable in general, especially amongst the broader Nijisanji fanbase.

>>13390537
Let me know what vtuber agency has an insurance plan. Nijisanji has no wages which is different but that's how they've operated, it's a hobby for some people anyway instead of a job. Though to me it makes sense to put those who want to stream full time, on a wage
>>13390548
Nothing, because other livers do it anyway. It's not even like no one knows how to tell a Chii-chan gachi from a Chii-chan anti, she retweets them on Twitter when they point out falseflaggers in her chat. She can do it and she just fucking won't.
>>13390500
I can still say it sucks that she feels bad about it.

>>13390761
Cover isn't a black company though.

>>13390365
Why doesnt anycolor just avoid participating in any event with jun.
It is obvious his fans are more problematic than it is worth. Not just to chihiro

>>13390717
Don't speak on matters you don't know shit about Holofag. Chihiro again did this to herself and there's a reason why many of the fanbase is tired of her, even some of the livers don't like her around.

>>13390889
>even some of the livers don't like her around
Expound please.

>>13390537
Who pays wages aside from hololive(which are apparently not very high)?

>>13390829
Forgetting the Mel stalker incident and complete failure to keep Coco around, newfag?

>>13390889
Why do Nijisanji "fans" hate their own members the most?

>>13390946
They don't get paid wages at all.

>>13390984
like holofans shitting on matuli?

>>13390984
Because we have standards for Livers and it's why they're taken the most seriously in the corporate VTubing world. Now shut the fuck up, Holofag.

>>13390864
She agreed to it. CR Cup is not Anycolor based, if Chihiro feels fine jumping into a tourney where Jun can laugh at headshot her and his 15 year old chat goes to her chat to gloat, that's on her. Plus her friends play in CR Cup, she is friends with Mondo of Crazy Raccoon as well.

>>13390365
Mayu has also modded randos before in order to block all the antis after his come-back this summer. Plus there's in-office workers and managers at anycolor if she doesn't want to mod fans who could probably help. But doesn't Chii-chan stream a LOT? I can see why they wouldn't always have someone they can give to closely watch her chat, but she seems to always have friends in chat so I don't see why they can't help her.
But honestly I think Chii-chan is just really bad about picking up mean comments and taking them to heart. Which just turns her into even more of an anti-magnet, because they know they can actually get under her skin. All it takes is one rude comment that she overreacts to and then it turns into a pile-on.

>>13390984
You say that like there isn't daily threads from Holofags calling Kiara and Ollie whores, and who can forget the barrage of Ayame threads.

>>13390984
Part of the culture I guess. Their harassed Lulu till she left.

>>13391024
Matsuri deserves it for being a massive menhera/yab magnet herself. Don't even watch Hololive and everything I need to know about her comes from reliable sources.

>>13391054
If you mean Lulu's stalkera, Shion has been dealing with stalkers for quite a while now.

>>13391040
>Because we have standards for Livers
Why did you guys hire Nina though? lmao

>>13391044
Except Ayame deserves the hatred for not taking her job seriously at all. The fact that Holofags actually make up excuses for this truancy is a worse reflection on them than it is to Niji fans.

>>13391105
Probably because she's the top performer in her wave with years of entertainment industry experience.

>>13383427
is the the "FREEDOM" of Nijisanji that Nijiniggers talking about?

>>13391105
There's nothing wrong with Nina. She's the most popular in Ethyria. Leave it to childish Holofags to seethe though.

>>13391024
Those are chink antis and nijiniggers who got upset cause Matsuri won that Niji Apex tourney.

>>13391043
She does but can she not just, message staff or workers or anyone if she's noticing trash in her chat, so they can log in and monitor for a bit, instead of calling them out. That is entirely her personal problem at that point. And if she wants to graduate over it then I don't know what to say other than that's retarded.

Note how they are shifting from Chii-chan to other Vtubers, going off-topic

>>13391176
lmao
m
a
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>>13391173
This is in Anycolor's best interests however. I'm surprised Cover hasn't done the same for Anemachi.

>>13391200
Holofags can't help it.
>>13391176
Nope. Your own fans. Do 5ch/Twitter reps. Matsuri got carried in that btw.

>>13391173
They always portray that the management follows a hands-off approach but with the collab restrictions, forced collabs, and now this, I'm starting to doubt that claim a little bit.

>>13391299
>forced collabs
Explain UMISEA, Holofag

Leave it to nijifags to always have hololive live rent free in their heads about fucking everything.

>>13391200
The thread was made to shit on Anycolor. Why are people still surprised when it happens?

>>13391210
Hololive is family friendly. I don't think anyone would deny that.
It just sucks what happened to Chihiro cause she's such a nice girl.

>>13391299
Until the day a member goes on record as to saying management scolded them for so much as banging on their desk as Matuli was by Hololive's, the claim that Nijisanji is more hands-off will always be more accurate.

>>13391366
Says the Holofag posting in a Nijisanji thread.

>>13391382
>she's such a nice girl
Nah, she's a menhera bitch who can't play Apex the correct way and cries like a little bitch when things don't go her way. Far from nice.
>>13391366
You could have just not opened your mouth, but Holofags won't ever shut the fuck up.

>>13391200
Man, I feel for Chii-chan. The other day it was Pomu who got bullied by the management. I hope Chii-chan wouldn't get demoralized by this.

>>13391402
Newfags won't know this also happened 3 years ago and Nijisanji was almost yab free up until around late last year.

Damn I used to feel bad for Nijifans but you guys are acting like dogs the second you think you smell a Holofan. Have some class.

>>13391468
>Pomu who got bullied by the management
This never happened lmao, you're just making shit up

>>13390537
For Nijisanji, when you get in, you get "protection" and "benefits" like having the Nijisanji brand name, as well as equipment and other stuff needed for Virtual Living. However each member has to pay an amount coming from their paycheck but it's still worth it because it's more than just a logo of blue pacman puking out rainbow. Being Nijisanji comes with the power and respect that separate them from the indies. Even if said Liver only gets double digits, they are still part of the mighty family that is the Rainbow eaters. Mere 2views tremble at the sights of a true 2ji3ji as they should, for they are the strong. The chosen. What those filthy company-less nobodies should inspire to be.

Fear the Rainbow. Be in awe of the rainbow.

>>13390537
What other agencies do that? Or are you basing this on rumors you hear about hololive?
>>13391299
"Forced collabs" that happen like one time in 3 months and are just for special events. Also idk where you see collab restriction. Point is that nijisanji as far as a corpo is one of the more lax.

>>13391493
Did you conveniently exclude the dodgeball offpako that happened early last year?

>>13391541
Basado

>>13391493
>Nijisanji was almost yab free up until around late last year.
?????????

>>13391468
Pomu never spoke to management about her issues with their ideas - she said herself she'd do it post-stream and post-complaining. Did you notice how the Mario Kart collab included the regular racing mode when it wasn't initially supposed to? That was after Pomu spoke with them. So I don't want to hear management being blamed for Pomu's misplaced wagie rage.

>>13391493
If you're a Nijifag you'd know that literally the existence of the first wave was considered a yab from all the anti 2D fags

>>13391546
Stop replying to clueless newfags who barely know how the corporate VTubing industry works.

>>13391583
This. I love Pomu but she should have done better here and this will be ingrained in her reputation regardless of what happens.

>>13391506
Are we supposed to pity Holofags who shit on Nijisanji and vastly outnumber us?

>thread about Chii-chan
>becomes Hololive vs NijisanjiEN

>>13391640
>vastly outnumber us
Nah, we outnumber them. Just go on 5ch, Natome, or Twitter. Nijibros are far more numerous than Holofags.

>>13391694
no we aren't

>>13391640
Stop being a tribalfag, dude. You shouldn't worship the companies but rather the talents themselves because it is they who bring joy to us.
I just wish Chii-chan would learn how to protect herself so that she wouldn't get bullied every single time.

>>13391675
Holofags literally can't stop barging into races they have no horse in. Typical occurrence on this god damn board. It's almost every fucking hour with them. Also Chihiro deserves the criticism headed her way.

>>13391694
Well that's just anti-logic. Imageboards and suki-kirai can be easily gamed with VPNs. Viewer and sub counts, not so much.

>>13391640
You're supposed to get in line like the VSPO, 774, .Live, Noripro and whoever else-fags and shut the fuck up. Funny that it's always Nijisanji fans acting out and screaming about Hololive and NEVER any other group. You don't see Tsunderiafags trying to pick fights.

>>13391717
This isn't a matter of tribalism. Anycolor acted in their best interests and Chihiro doesn't know how to understand the logistics of company decisions, namely the one she signed up for. She's asking to leave but hasn't yet. Why is that? She'd do herself a massive favor by this.

>>13391752
Small dog syndrome I believe is what it's called.

>>13391344
>projecting

>>13391675
If you couldn't tell what direction this would go in then you're dense. There was someone spamming how AC is a black company early on.

>>13391752
>he doesn't know
>>13391783
Fully corproate-mandated and you know it. There's no such thing as a forced collab in Nijisanji. Zero.

>>13391727
kys you garbage
Fucking Chi-chan should graduate from this shit agency and join Hal's new vtuber agency, at least she'd have an agency that appreciates her. This is why I hate the rest of you.

>>13391752
Probably because Tsunderia fans don't have threads made every day by Holofags shitting on their talents or get treated as the Hololive fanbase's mortal enemy you absolute mong. You as a Holofag came into a Nijisanji thread and are complaining that you aren't welcome. That's your problem.

>>13391752
That's because none of those agencies have sufficient fans in the west to do that.
And you fags talk and shit on nijisanji all the time, with baits, in numbers thread, on reddit, on twitter, on youtube, all the time.

>>13391795
In which he's wrong and AC was purely acting out of their best interests. This take shouldn't have been posted without a criticism of where he came from that fed him misinformation with little to no knowledge of company logistics in the corporate VTuber industry.

>>13391795
Being a revisionist is a privilege for those who are winners, anon. Don't gaslight us.

>>13391810
Whatever make you sleep at night Nijinigger

>>13391820
I think everyone would win here. But don't cry to us when she can't live her past down. She will always be held responsible for her own actions.

>>13391810
Why are you like that anon? Don't you believe in Pomu? I'll side with Pomu than with the management always.

>>13391891
Go suck jun's dick

>>13391916
>EOP is triggered by Jun
kek

>>13391861
Doesn't matter if he's right or wrong, most of this stuff follows the same pattern. First you say AC is a black company, then you bring up no wages and Shiba, then Lulu and end on numbers. Pomu's being used as ammo too now

>>13383427
I don't know how to feel about this. I like Nijisanji but on the other hand I don't want them to bully Chii-chan like that even though I don't watch her Apex streams.

>>13391910
She didn't communicate to management when she should have. Her fault.

>>13391820
>>13391910
Believe in Pomu when she said she was going to talk about changing it to racing and.. they literally changed it for her? If anything pomu was wrong in what she did to be so mad about.. playing mario kart for an event.

>>13391934
I'm not trashing AC you dense retard. Get reading comprehension.
>>13391964
Do your reps. Chihiro is the least liked liver by far.

>>13391964
>Not a new IP

>>13391929
ゴミカス死ね

>>13391820
Fucking Haachama, Matsuri, Mel and Coco should graduate from that shitty agency as well.

>>13391752
>You don't see Tsunderiafags trying to pick fights.
Tsunderiafags and Prismfags are in the NijiEN thread shilling their chuubas all the time.

>>13391830
Tsunderia fags never struck first on /jp/, that's why they're not targeted.

>>13392002
>Do your reps. Chihiro is the least liked liver by far.
Fuck off, Junfag.

>>13392021
YWNBJ

>>13391964
Anon, you forgot to change your IP again...

>>13392002
That's gundou, not chihiro.

>>13392029
>never struck first
And here it is, the Holonigger talking about reparations. Go riot about it.

>>13392030
>muh Jun
Nah, I don't even like Jun. It's amazing how he lives in Chicucks' heads rent free though.

>>13392036
>call someone EOP
>when not EOP respond YWNBJ

>>13392026
Who cares about that Global colony? What's important is that they stay away from the Hololive Global thread. Or at least don't spam it like Pomudachi and Dragoons tried to spam.

>>13392051
>Gundou
You sure about that? Pretty sure she's intact amongst circles that matter. Not exactly a yab magnet either unless you consider Holofags a valid source.

Well this thread took a wild path.

>>13392112
Turns out the ones who hate chihiro the most are Nijifags and Anycolor

>>13392002
>Chihiro is the least liked liver by far.
Are you Fujofats still mad over your boy toys not being actually faggots and was probably double teaming this cute girl?

>>13392112
It was fine until the white knight Holofags started defending Chihiro without knowing the logistics behind their decision and not knowing what a yab magnet she is.

>>13391675
Blame it on the schizos who deflect when challenged and the dramafags who smell blood and shit up any thread that shows weakness on either side. Anykara has come a long way since its inception but that doesn't mean they're fault free. These schizos say Holofags worship Cover when they do the same. Anyways, yeah yeah antis are a problem but for fucks sake it's not Anykara's place to be mandating what people not under their employ can/can't do online if they aren't actively harassing their employees. Chi-chan's sister can do whatever the fuck she wants to. Now they do have a say in what Chihiro does and they really should've set it out clearly that she shouldn't follow family members if that's their policy. Chihiro should've probably run it past them, I'm not aware that she ever did. I disagree with how Anykara handled this, if they had issues with it, it should've been stopped way earlier. If they're going to disallow certain interactions with family then they should do it through clear definitions of what they deem acceptable, it's not as if this is something out of the blue. Chihiro has constantly mentioned her sister during her streams.

>>13392135
Where on Earth are you getting the impression that ChroNoirfags hate Chihiro
If simply the indication that they're heterosexual drove shippers mad people wouldn't be joking in Kanae's comment section after the porno incident

>>13392146
I agree with you except Chihiro did this herself and she should have known better regarding her own family's safety.

>>13392112
Well at this point the pattern is pretty obvious, should have seen it coming from the beginning what this thread was ACTUALLY about

>>13392133
Go back to your holo threads, you don't belong in this discussion.

>>13384155
>totally unrelated people
Hey you forgot your brain in the bin

>>13383427
oh nononono, is this the final yab?

>>13392135
Let me know when fujos schizo out whenever Kanae talks about his porn mag subscriptions

>>13383427
It should be Chihiro's call and not Anycolor's call to delete the twitter. Her sister is not doing anything illegal anyway. Is this the reason Lulu, Gibara and Bora are leaving Anycolor? Sounds like someone in their higher management is doing a powermove on their talents. Sasuga black company

>>13392133
Yes, now cry about it Holofag. Her own fault. Now stop saviorcucking.

>>13392188
I don't think you fully understood what you've just read, corpo boot licker.

>>13392146
Anycolor is not banning mentions of her sister they had her delete her twitter account. You seem to lack reading comprehension, as well as common sense for not knowing the danger of having a sister's account freely running about publically

>>13392234
Yes anon, complete different people with complete different situations for graduation are like that.

How is this chihiro situation any different than coco with cover blocking her to collab with holoen

>>13392216
>>13392240
Seems like only her fans should belong in this discussion, not her antis that simp for Anykara

>>13392234
>it should be Chihiro's call
lol
>doesn't know that allowing her sister to have an account pretty much endangers her family's welfare especially if there's a company policy that says it so
Let them do their job.
>Is this the reason Lulu, Gibara, and Bora are leaving Anycolor
Not even close
>Sounds like someone in their higher management is doing a powermove on their talents
You mean doing their jobs to protect their talents?
>Sasuga black company
You worship Cover Corporation lmao

>>13392273
You are the one who lick cover shit, discordfag

>>13392135
I don't get where this "Chronoirfags hate Chihiro" meme came from, if anything, you should point out how fujos give Kanae and Kuzuha shit if they don't interact enough. People are fine with KCK.

>>13392274
I've just learned Anycolor is a nanny state lol

>>13392273
I'm far from bootlicking lmao. The point is Chihiro doesn't understand what she signed up for and she shouldn't be a bitch about it when she's already in dire straits for being a shitty Apex player and an unlikable bitch that is often snubbed in collabs for a reason.

>>13392307
I'm a Chihiro fan. I don't watch anyone else from Nijisanji. I still think this here shouldn't be happening and they are right in telling to delete that twitter, because if her sister is targeted, they are the ones who will get problem.

Countdown to graduation.

>>13392307
>Chihiro
>fans
roru rumao
>>13392368
Explain what's wrong with that, lolbert

There is so many AC bootlickers, it's so sad

>>13392112
No this is pretty much standard /vt/ with a Nijisanji OP, these "people" behave exactly like the Chinese bots on a 5 cent salary that they pretend to hate with how predictable their posts and patterns are. I'm only surprised that it didn't happen to this thread sooner.

>>13392398
And this is exactly why. Because it's 1). unimportant and 2). a risk for the talents themselves.

What the fuck is wrong with them? Can they even request that? nothing prevent a vtuber to interact a lot with another who didn't have any big drama in particular. Whatever they are IRL doesn't not matter. Honestly it's sickening to see.

>>13392188
>it's Chihiro's fault
There's been precedent of this kind of interaction in the industry before. It's not as if it's entirely unreasonable for her to think that it's alright. For fucks sake people keep mentioning she's a yab magnet but Matsuri has been a big target as well and her fucking mom has a Twitter account. It's cross company yes but it set a precedent (as far as I know) in terms of the larger companies and with how much she interacts with her sister it should've been a no-brainer to tell her to not acknowledge social media accounts of family (because that's the real issue here, her sister has a right to a fan account on Twitter). Chihiro's an APEX autist magnet yes, but if anything this means Anykara should've been more clear about what should or should not be done.
>>13392274
You seem to lack reading comprehension retard. I specifically spoke about the Twitter interaction, I mentioned her constant interactions with her sister on stream as a reason why this should've not been a bolt out of the blue for Anykara and why they should've addressed it way before it even became a problem.

>>13392467
OK Covercuck. Come back when your agency actually protects its talents like done here.

>>13392527
Protect from what exactly?

>>13392509
Cover is clueless. When her mother is targeted it becomes an issue for Matsuri herself. This should simply not happen.

So why exactly are meidos so inactive on here? I feel like there's more moderation going on in /v/

>>13392551
From stalkers you fucking mong.

>>13383739
>just a mistake
Really understating it, it's a big blunder, Nijisanji really missed the mark, giving in to anti pressure, showing they they can get what they want. Niji can still backtrack maybe, make a short official apology regarding the other vtuber, and it should be fine.

>>13392509
And why should her sister interacting with Chihiro on stream or being talked about on stream have anything to do with the security risk of a family member's account of a girl who gets bombarded by antis?

>>13392612
>giving into anti pressure
Those who don't want stalkers harassing their talents are antis?

>>13392621
Because stalkers find a way to track locations down numbnuts.

>>13392575
You have to summon them by posting something related to Gura's roommate so that they can ban you for trolling outside of /b/

>>13386071
They're incompetent, they play overly scared and just show antis they can get what they want any time they want

>>13392575
This isn't Reddit. Go fuck off.

>>13392599
Nice logic

>>13392575
Because this is a dumpster board in the first place that does not have a lot of reason to exist. Not to mention that there are tons of SEAnigger trolls on here which they probably can't be bothered to fight anymore

>>13392674
Through a fucking voice?
I'm saying she's free to be on stream just not on Twitter.

>>13392692
How come Mel's own manager stalked her, Holofag?

If there was a trade between Hololive and Nijisanji for Chiichan, which talents would you want? I'm willing to trade Matsuri.

>>13392689
This. Bless this place as the only place on the Internet for unfiltered opinion. Holofags hate this because there's hundreds of thousands of people here that hate their shitty brand.

>>13392721
amelia
or fauna

>>13392721
I would veto that trade even if Anycolor would offer money along with her. Chii-chan is nice but she doesn't fit in Hololive. Maybe VSPO?

>>13392721
None of them. Astel maybe.

It's unfortunate that people nowadays are of the impression that every board on 4chan is supposed to be like /b/. The site was much better when there was less traffic and more moderation. /a/ has let up over the years but it's still strongly moderated in comparison to other boards and much better off for it.

>>13392785
I'm fine with anything as long as it gets her out of Anycolor and to someplace better. VSPO is nice.

>>13392555
OK. Let's say for the sake of argument that you're absolutely correct and there is no room for argument there, Cover is retarded. In that case why, when Anykara saw that happen, did they not set out clear guidelines on their side? It's also not like Chihiro talking about her sister or others talking about their family is a new thing. This isn't something that couldn't be foreseen at all. For fucks sake they probably have a committee centered around dealing with Chihiro's antis. This should've been a talking point at some time. The puck stops at Anykara's feet rather than Chihiro's.
>>13392621
Because with her mentioning her sister and interacting with her on stream as often as she does maybe Anykara should be setting forwards guidelines as to to what degree she should be interacting with her to. You acknowledge that she's bombarded by antis, Anykara should've covered all their bases here.

>>13392785
>Chihiro
>nice
lol
Bitch backs out of collabs and then wonders why she isn't invited to them

>>13392810
Yeah, miss the goold old time of ID everywhere, or the occasional justified tripfag now frowned upon everywhere

>>13392810
I blame Nijisanji for going Reddit. I remember that was the start when newfags came flooding over here.

>>13392810
Lurk moar newfag

>>13392721
Why would Anykara trade away one of their revenue? Chihiro makes them more money than most of their 2view international Livers? That’s stupid.

>>13392865
You're either baiting or you're retarded

>>13392844
Fuck you then. Other agencies don't force their talents for collabs, only Nijisanji does that.

>>13392810
I unironically blame reddit, as they see this as their dumping ground for shitposts and trollingeand don't take it seriously as an image board website

>>13392844
She's an insensitive bitch like that. Fuck Chihiro!

>>13392842
The problem isn't talking about her family, that's fine. The problem is her sister creating a twitter account where she can interact with fans and haters with no problem. I can see their reasoning in that they don't give a fuck if she does that for chihiro past life account but not for her vtuber one.

>>13392842
You seem to not understand.
Chihiro mentioning family on stream is fine. Everyone does that.
Chihiro even having her sister on voice call and talking to chat is fine. Some people have done this.
Chihiro interacting with and publically acknowledging an account of a family member that Anycolor can't monitor due to the sister not working for Nijisanji is a danger. She can get targeted.
She can't get targeted off stream if she just stayed as a voice instead of a public Twitter account.

>>13392903
Why not both?

>>13392930
>>13392865
Niji really opened redit floogtates. It's been rough.

>>13392895
How much does she make them/how do you know about it?

>>13392842
> Cover is retarded
We know that.
>It's also not like Chihiro talking about her sister or others talking about their family is a new thing.
And she endangers their welfare in the process
>For fucks sake they probably have a committee centered around dealing with Chihiro's antis.
No they don't lmao. Chihiro is again responsible for almost 85% of the antis she created so it's barely a big deal. Not like she's worthy of note anyways.
>The puck stops at Anykara's feet rather than Chihiro's.
>defending someone who puts herself and her sister at risk from stalkers
>it's Anykara's fault they want to protect both of them
Get this white knighting shit out of here lmao. Anykara did absolutely right in enforcing this protection. No one deserves stalkers, not even Chihiro.

>>13392920
Literally all agencies "force" to collab, it's what happens when special events happens, absolute retard.
It's different than umisea which is a group formed from 4 people that barely have anything to each other and was corporate formed for a product.

>>13392920
She isn't forced to do collabs and Holoshit is the king of forcing collabs. Literally every collab is forced except for maybe a few that happen here and there.

>>13392880
Same to you newfag, maybe if people actually stuck to that saying and didn't spoonfeed this website wouldn't be in the sorry state it is now

>>13392930
The existence of these retards and shitholes would've happened regardless of reddit's existence or not. Do you think the parallels of these retarded threads that exist in Japan are because of reddit? No, the only thing is we don't in return have any wellbehaved imageboard equivalent that actually cares about vtubers.

>>13392974
I agree with this. People calling anykara a black company over this are trolling at best. This decision makes complete sense considering how her sister as a third party could be affected by it, while she can't do it as a voice or just with mentions. There's an enormous difference between those as in one of them she can interact with fans and get targeted.

>>13392991
The only Redditors ITT are the ones who think Chihiro isn't responsible for endangering herself and her sister from the stalkers that could literally kill them if they could.

>>13393023
Hence why Nijisanji is known for fostering clique and bully culture. No sane fanbase would rationalize that "forced" collab is a good thing other than our Niji friends here.

>>13392974
This.

>clique/bully culture
Sweet I missing that one, got my bingo.

>>13392930
I don't see how that's Reddit's fault when the jannies and mods are the ones who allow that low quality content.
During early Moot era jannies were very aggressive in removing shitposts outside of /b/ if they weren't actually funny. The culture didn't come up in a vacuum, it was directly inspired by SA. There's nowhere like SA or IRC or the other old communities that heavily gatekept newfags anymore. Lurking moar is no longer even a genuine expectation, it's just a suggestion at this point.

>>13393150
>clique and bully culture
You're making shit up again, Holofag.

either nijisanji fail to explain risk of having public and active personal account from irl senpai, (esp when you well known for have antis) or chii just too dumb. whichever it is, management need to explains once again to chii and give her some alternatives. in return chii have to ready with whichever consequences that she and her sister will face in future.

Last post before bump. Fuck all you losers, Chiihiro is the best and I love her regardless. Peace out, faggots.

>>13393221
The latter. Learn to protect your talents from stalkers. Anycolor is in the complete right here. Not like Chihiro can fix the damage she potentially caused her and her sister anyways. Stalkers never forgive and forget.

>>13393150
You're aware that the same "forced collabs" happen in hololive right? You think those special events aren't made by management? Collabs in which management gathers the entire company or branch is common on all agencies. They don't happen all the time but a few times per year.

>>13393221
Chii is just really dumb and stubborn and acts like an actual child at times throwing tantrums over shit.
I'm sure she even knows she's in the wrong but just mad that she got scolded.

>>13393251
based
ちーちゃん好き好き好き!!

>>13392959
Retard, read. She's fine mentioning her family, I never argued she wasn't nor that Anykara should've/would've shut that down. Chihiro did this because she thought she could, she and her sister thought it was a fun thing to do. Anykara should've outright made it clear ahead of time rather than afterwards that it was an issue. This is an issue of them being behind the curve, especially because there's precedents in the industry. She's got a pack of antis on her ass and you're telling me they've never considered that this was a remote possibility? For fucks sake.
>>13392974
Same as above, read retard read, I didn't say that Anykara should've/would've shut down those interactions but that it they should've prepared in advance for this eventuality. Here, I'll lay it out for you:
1. They've interacted often on stream and it's clear that her sister really wants to cheer her on.
2. There is precedent for this in the industry.
3. Chihiro's got a pack of rabid antis on her that'll bite at any weakness.
I'm criticizing their lack of a policy on this and their inability to foresee that this would happen. This should've never come down to Anykara publicly having to shut her down on this, especially when antis will use this to shit on her more.
>>13393020
Am I so wrong in thinking that they should've seen this coming from a mile away? Christ, I don't have an issue with the principle I have an issue with how this was handled. With the way your response was worded it's clear to me you're just here to stoke the drama so have this last (You) and fuck off.

>>13393221
Does Chii really need it spelt out that antis might go after her sister?

>>13393188
I'm still waiting for an irrelevant mention of Aloe

>>13386627
They all have sub accounts. The problem is that Chii publicly said that account is run by her sister

>>13393315
It's common fucking sense to not have family members accounts connected to you. Sorry but she's retarded for linking it so heavily. People on dox sites are aware of other people's family accounts and those are still up perfectly fine. If she's upset over this she should have asked for permission first instead of sit on her hands and wait to get asked to delete it.

>>13393293
Based

Chihiro isn't a person. She's a piece of intellectual property owned by アニカラ. The voice actress shouldn't be treating the character as her personal identity, or using it to promote her personal acquaintances. Chihiro is a corporate brand and should behave as such.

However, there'd be nothing wrong with her adopting an independent vtubing idebtity to interact with and promote her sister so long as it doesn't violate any non-compete clauses in her contract.

>>13393326
I doubt the antis would care about her sister. Most of her haters are just APEX autists or Chronoirfags

>>13393498
>promote
>non-compete
Hiyori isn't a vtuber it's a chat account.

>>13393498
Stop spouting shit you know nothing about. If you gonna claim shit then at least provide us her actual contract.

>>13393394
>It's common fucking sense
If it were common fucking sense then even more reason why they should've laid it out clearly from the beginning. Have you ever worked in a corporate environment? Or a somewhere where mistakes can have severe consequences? "Common sense" things are what are outlined first and foremost because those are the mistakes that tend to get made. I agree she should've asked for permission first, I said as much in my first post, but to say that Anykara was completely innocent and that they did everything as they should've is just plain wrong. This isn't like some of the previous enjous where Anykara could do nothing but deal with the aftermath of, this was foreseeable, especially if it is, as you claim, common sense.

>>13393498
Based

>>13393662
And I never said they're completely innocent. The account shouldn't have been linked to her in the first place. I'm even in this thread above shitting on the company for not getting mods for her other issues. I can say both things.

>>13393662
If Chihiro didn't know she wasn't supposed to be doing it her sister would have said she was Chihiro's relative outright.

>>13393770
Then the fuck are you arguing with me for. She should've asked permission yes, but it's not unreasonable for one to see how she assumed it was fine. I'm just saying that everybody here praising Anykara and laying all the fault on Chihiro are retarded and that I disagree with how they handled things.
>>13393782
There's any number of reasons why she could've done that, including fears of her getting harassed because of an explicit connection. She could've decided that it was the best way to clue in fans while keeping it away from the tourist APEXfag antis. Even if she knew she wasn't supposed to be doing it, unless she did it against direct Anykara directives Anykara still is to blame in part for not outright disallowing it.

>>13393257
>>13393293
>>13393326
i know that chii is dumb, its just polite way to say "explain this dumb shit that will be happen in language that monkey can understand". management should know well that some of their livers need some "specific treatment", i just thinking that something will changes if they handle it without using black or white logics. some compromising decision like keeping her sister twitter account alive but let it inactive or turn it to private account but she can mod her sister in chat are some possible option.

>>13394009
If she's mad enough that getting her sisters account deleted means she wants to graduate then I don't know what to say anymore then. Yes they should have told her in advance. Sure she should have asked for explicit rules/permission. But then she went on to complain about no help for antis when she literally has the tools handed to her on a silver platter aside from Anycolor hiring people to live in her chat 24/7, when she can just go mod her gachis like what a good portion of the JP branch does.

>>13393394
>It's common fucking sense to not have family members accounts connected to you
That's wrong, there are many accounts of known family accounts. Be it mamatsuri, Hana's father, Kson's father, even Kiara family isn't really hidden. Some people even vtube as a couple.

>>13394543
Read the thread, having people on stream =/= twitter and Matuli being fine with her mom having a twitter connected to her is dangerous.

No one is at fault.

But.


I'm pretty sure that having a account that seems affiliated with a character you stream as, is dangerous, if implicated to be a family member.

It's on the edge of going against the contract of "you cannot tell anyone about your streaming identity, and if you do tell someone, make sure they never ever will say a thing about it." This is why side accounts exist. Some of NIJI EN have said that their family members follow them, but those NIJI EN members do not follow their family back on their NIJISANJI Account.

A account like the one in question does seem harmless, and was probably used harmlessly, but there wasn't any real way to tell and control what is said on that account, because that person doesn't work for NIJISANJI. That person isn't held back by a contract.

Think of VOMS and how one liver leaked out info to someone they thought they could trust, but in the end that lead to them being outed online. Therefore that VOMS liver had to graduate.

This was a account made to have fun, yes, but it was also dangerous. Management should have been told first hand. Or at the very least, the account should not have been followed back by the liver's NIJISANJI Account.


There was no malicious intent from either side. One side is trying to protect the liver and their family. The other side just wanted to have harmless fun, but did not think of the potential consequences in the long run. Both are at fault, and both are not at fault. This is not good vs bad. This is not villan vs victim.

It is simply trying to figure out the best way to deal with a situation that could have potentially incredibly bad consequences.

Nijisanji obviously. They have no right to tell their employees who is family and who is not and which part of the famly can have twitter. ridiculous. i get that they are affraid of antis but if they continue they will loose another vtuber just like they lost lulu.

Kek, 56 faggot arguing with themselves like this is a big deal and the end of anycolour

>>13394880
>just let everyone be free to be attacked and stalked so the company can make money!

>>13394880
they will lose her when her antis start attacking her sister account anyway. so what's your point dick?

>>13394580
"antis" like they describe would definitely search for personal accounts, and those I listed aren't that hard to find

>>13394880
Chii-chan antis are lowest of the low. They are not contented with losing Lulu through management's incompetence, they want to drag Chii-chan down too.

>>13395122
And? Standing around a road doesn't mean a car will hit you but you'll look retarded if you get mad when it happens.

>>13395261
Are you retarded? You blame the drunk driver not the pedestrian. Are you one of those people who blame the rape victims for wearing skimpy outfits instead of the rapists too?

>>13395314
Who said it was a drunk driver? There are things called following the rules aka walking on crosswalks, if you just bolt across a highway and survive and think that you'll be fine to keep doing it, it's on you if you get hurt.

>>13386982
Lulu didn't leave over stralkers, though. She left over being made to not stream every time management sued a stalker.

>>13389605
Those likely weren't holofags. Just generic shitposters fishing for rage. You must be new if you don't expect those in this shithole.

>>13390955
Coco made her choice. You need to accept that. Management can't be putting a gun to people's heads to force them to stay.

>Anykara is genuinely a fucking black company
good to know

>>13395694
They didn't sue anyone.

>>13383427
>>13395921
>>13384209
>>13384303
>>13388123
>>13393124
The could have been any color and they chose to be black...

>>13383427
https://twitter.com/BlGOLAF/status/1462643703131037696 Oh no Nijibros we got too cocky

>>13396709
This is the same company who doesn't allow people taking screenshots during concerts for free promotion and forbids its talents to engage with EOPs which practically killed their overseas presence.

>>13396709
>>13396840
this thread can't get bumped anymore you might as well make a new one to have fun in

>>13383427
Clearly the answer is we must save Chii-chan. Somehow, some way, I don't know how but we'll think up something.

>>13396840
screenshot bans are requested by the concert venues

>>13385885
What happened to Lulu?

>>13396921
She's doing fine without the retarded Nijisanji managers breathing down her neck.

>>13396709
The official provided reason was to protect Chii-chan, most likely because people could find out information privy to her thanks to her sister.
Not that shitposter Holofags care, mind you.

>>13396949
He asked about Lulu not Mel getting raped

>>13396709
Which Hololive members have their family on twitter I missed that

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>>13397098
I want to sex her

>>13395815
But management can force volunteer graduate by put her in banishment room

>>13396709
Stop linking to your twitter you imbecile. YOu think it isn't obvious it's you?

i will save chihiro by fucking her in a mating press position, and i will do the same to her sister as well!!

>>13396709
Go back to discord