/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>13002227
Nami is literally sex. God bless our wife.

>>13002227
Namiji and Sara were my favorites, but I liked Lisa, Lua, and Amiya too. Not dropping my oshi for any of them, though. I'm really excited to see what will happen from here on out for the landscape.

GFE > others

>>13002227
Kawaii was the best overall, i like Kazune from tsunderia though

>>13002227
Is Prism the most successful new Vtuber startup? Vshoujo is literally just a group of already existing Vtubers, so they don't count

GETTING PERMISSION TO MARRY LISA FROM HER GRANDMOTHER!

I really like all of Taunderia's new talent. My fav so far is Amiya. She has a weird mix of really cool and a dorky nerd and I find her really adorable

>>13002606
Tsunderia and Prism probably

There will be a day the biggest small corpo talent will outpace the smallest NijiEN. If the rrat refuse to pay me in refunds, she will pay in blood.

>>13002814
If NijiEN's popularity fails to grow and new additions keep on cannibalizing their viewership then I can see somebody dropping to Miori or Shiki level ccv. Might happen on their male wave.

>>13002227
>Best debut
Anon
>Best designs
Kawaii
>Best pre-debut marketing
Tsunderia

>>13002227
The males are cool so far. I have not check out anyone else.

>>13002227
I haven't checked Prism or Kawaii's new vtubers yet, I will eventually.
I will say Tsunderia's Gen 3 are the first interesting Gen since Gen 0+Kana.

Tsunderia won for me this time but I like Shee

There's plenty of good word for Kawaii, but there's the one I actually missed out on. How were they? Don't have time to watch all of the debuts yet.

>>13002227
>Kawaii
Aruru, Shee

>Tsunderia
Amiya

>Prism
Naki, Sumi

As >>13002416 said, no one standing out enough to make me drop my oshis Charzu, Yuuna, Purin, Nia, and Aoi though

>>13004274
Aruru - Zoomer Uooh voice
Najimi - Sex
Neena - Australian Sex
Shee - Giant Stacy
Lua - Dork

>>13002227
It's more or less the same, which isn't a bad thing.
Tsunderia is trying to be experimental as usual, adding males before Holo and Niji. So far I surprisingly like them all despite me not being into androgynous males and I like Amiya in particular due to her boomer game gimmick, depending on how she spins it she can make some pretty fun streams.
Prism seems more or less the same as they always been, safe kind of generic vtubers with a lot of potential to be entertaining. Prism has a recurring theme where you can't tell if 'x' vtuber will be entertaining or not until at about a month in.
Kawaii I have no clue since I didn't even know they existed until a few weeks ago so i'm still catch up on them essentially.

>>13002227
I like them all.

>>13002227
Not innovative enough. What exactly do they do that all the other vtubers don't? The answer to this question defines a chuba's place in the currently oversaturated meta.

>>13002227
Amiya played Skyroads so she's extremely based

>>13002227

I LOVE NEENA, NAKI, NON AND NAMIJI

also Lisa & Kazune are cool too.

>>13004274

Aruru: Zoomer imouto weeb imouto experience. Sounds like she's 12.

Namiji: Based, likes strategy and management games, great at singing(find her unarchived karaoke, it's lit)

Neena: Amazing gamer, loves horror and Apex, cute and energetic as fuck. Slips into aussie/british accent

Shee: cool, didn't see much though.

Lua: idk didn't watch much

>>13005330

Watch Neena and Namiji, they'll make you happy.

>>13004361
"Neena - Australian Sex"

Is she trying to hide / suppress her accent?

>>13012566

It slips a lot.

>>13004061
come on anon, Kawaii has not lamy and not luto who at the same time is not gura, so you are already 2 layers too deep into shitty design

>>13004274
>There's plenty of good word for Kawaii
It's mindless shilling so you go and check them out and give them views.

>>13012678
Interesting.
But do you think management told her to avoid speaking in an accent?

>>13013033

I doubt it. Why would they do that?

>>13013033
Literally just clicked a random video hoping to hear her accent again and it turns out she addresses this right at the beginning of this stream: https://youtu.be/i79ct_0anVc?t=392

She goes "I'm a bit of everything" so she probably lived outside of Australia for a time, I would assume NA, and got a blend of accents. But no North American learns to pronounce 'no' like she does at 6:28 which means she probably grew up Aussie rather than the other way around.

>>13004061
>Best design gen
Kawaii > Prism > Tsunderia
>Best solo design
Sara

>>13004061
Kawaii''s designs are insanely overrated.
>Dark blue haired woman
>Light blue haired woman
>Pink haired women
>Blonde haired woman
>Red haired woman
>Black haired woman
>Light blonde haired woman
>Blue haired woman
>Light blonde haired woman
>Grayish haired woman
This is all I see when I look at them. Not a single one of them has ever stood out to me in terms of design and that's part of the reason it took me so long to check any of them out.

>>13015722
I really love Namiji's cleric/nurse motif and Lua's look, but overall I agree their designs are milquetoast. Gen 1 especially, they all just look like normal girls wearing normal clothing.

>>13002227
Kawaii gen 2 is literally perfect.
Prism's new gen is too menhera and /here/ for me. I was hoping for them to be more seiso, I'll watch Sara though
I haven't seen Tsunderia yet

>>13002227
I've still gotta catch up on Tsunderia gen 3, however I'd say Kawaii gen 2 is by far the strongest of any small agency I've seen so far. The company was sort of low profile until recently, but something clearly changed internally and they're a lot more competitive now.

I only care about Tsun's new gen because of Lisa, bratty music nerd imouto that goes "chu chu" to annoy people, love her she's one of the best new kids on the block

Tsunderia spider is absolutely cracked
https://youtu.be/vPavWi_qsJ4
https://youtu.be/p6pfitT4UnA
https://youtu.be/YundPOnCOHY

Kawaii is for idolfags
Prism is for edgy idolfags
Tsunderia has soul
None are really that interesting, but I like Lisa at least

>>13002227
>black company
>troonderia
>black company
they're all shit

Kawaii - went all-in on GFE. The whole generation is GFE with a slightly different flavor and they aren't trying to hide it. Makes sense in theory; Nene is their big hitter, and she does GFE, so that's what the company does now, I guess. In practice, it'll probably just siphon views from her and not result in much company growth, but at least they have a clear direction

Tsunderia - musical generation with two m*les and one "other". Surprisingly, this is the group that impressed me the most. They're bursting with musical talent, they act like siblings in collabs, and they mesh well with the casual feel of the company. If Amiya can keep pumping out bangers like these >>13016603 and Kazu keeps showing off his top-tier FPS skills, this group could put startups on the broader VTuber map for good, and now is the best time to do it with people falling out of love with the top 2 corpos

Prism: went the Niji route and snagged 4 safe picks. Nothing really surprising or worthy of much hype since we knew their PL's pre-debut. Not sure what the idea is releasing voice packs on debut, but it's certainly optimistic. Cap needs to really step up his game and steer this ship in a clear direction with clear leadership if he wants his content to be competitive now

>>13016773
>Makes sense in theory; Nene is their big hitter, and she does GFE, so that's what the company does now
Thank you Nene

>>13016773
>Not sure what the idea is releasing voice packs on debut, but it's certainly optimistic
More inspiration from Nijisanji.

while tsunderia has good singers this gen, nami and lua from kawaii shouldn’t be ignored as singers as well
just waiting for them to release covers but they’ve done really nice unarchvied karaoke streams already
maybe im a idolfag boomer but I wish prism gen 4 would have at least one good singer, im sticking with older gens

>>13015722
Gen 1 designs are really unremarkable, but gen 2's are amazing, I really don't see where you are coming from.

>>13019290

I liked Sara's Renai Circulation. Was hella cute and soulful

>>13019381
Gen 2's designs aren't bland, but the characters are very tired tropes. You have:
Kitsune / oneesan
Maid / puppy kind of?
Catgirl / loli
Slutty healer
Lua's design is pretty unique, even if it does have some similarities to Mumei. Their personalities are distinct enough to not draw too many comparisons. The other four are unoriginal on their face though

>>13019290
If Tsunderia can produce some really good songs they can make themselves a lot of money

>>13019290
>>13021459
Tsunderia has the benefit of their new talents not just being good singers, but also being skilled at other elements of music production. I imagine that's going to be a huge boon.

>>13021459
I really expected their Acacia cover to blow up, and this was before TsunDream was even announced. Maybe it was just too long after the hype for the original?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88mK-k0H0b8

No one watches these cunts

>>13021699

Shut the fuck up. I watch some of them. AND THEY TELL ME THEY MISS ME AND VALIDATE ME you stupid fucking holobrony, having to send akasupa just to get any sort of acknowledgment

i've only watched prism's debut, i think it was the only ones that posted separate threads for each of them. i got hard filtered by Non, she's charming to others though, Naki is decent but Sumi and Sara are memorable and a total hit.
If anyone who watched all of the debuts knows a Sara-like or Yura-like post em.

>>13022051
>i think it was the only ones that posted separate threads for each of them
There were threads for every Tsunderia debut

>>13022051
Neena and Nami would be comparable to Sara and Yura. Lua is worth a check too.

JUST TELL ME WHICH ONE'S A NON-MENHERA CUNNY

I like Amiyas choice of content in Mario paint, old boomer games, etc. I also like Namiji, good voice and good art/3D modelling. Prisms new girls aren't really interesting to me and considering Cap is a retard I hope they find something else

>>13016773
>Kawaii - went all-in on GFE. The whole generation is GFE
GFE without codependency feels shallow. I don't think they are capable of hiring a whole Gen of really mentally unstable girls so I'm wary.

>>13022051

If you like Yura, you'll probably like Neena and or Namiji, they're kinda similar.

>>13002227
Hold on, is PRISM the biggest of the groups?

>>13002973
>Might happen on their male wave.
With how they are seemingly shaping up to be, could see it happen to some extent.

>>13022971
Tsunderia and Kawaii has had at least 1K removed from their subs, Susan AI shit.
PRISM escaped the bonk for the time being somehow.

>>13022971
Tsunderia and Kawaii got their subs nuked hard by Youtube whereas PRISM was largely unscathed.

>>13002227
Nijisanji EN killers and in about 2 years they'll be Hololive EN killers.

>>13023376
I know it will never happen, but imagine Tsunderia pulling larger numbers than Nijisanji EN

>>13002227
i got diamond hard the moment i heard aruru, any more girls who speak in that manner? you know, not only loli voice but that kind of retarded speak

>>13023479
>I know it will never happen
Don't be so sure. The top talents from the major start ups are edging closer and closer to the lower NijiEN talents in terms of views, and that's probably going to continue as Niji continues to crank out wave after wave.

>>13002227
Didn't really check out Prism's and Kawaii's since nothing really caught my eye and I'm kind of tired of female chuubas and the whole CGDCT shit so many seem to go for and how overall safe most seem to have decided to play things.
But I did check Tsuderia a bit, since they seem to have wanted to actually risk a bit (especially with the whole adding males and also adding them in a mixed wave unlike NijiEN), the spider is very promising, good voice, interesting game choice, music knowledge that goes beyond just singing and an actual willingness to use said talents more often from what I have seen going by her Mario Paint stream, the boys seem pretty interesting as well, the bunny didn't call me all that much besides his singing but Kazu did interest me plenty, he's pretty boring and his way of speech is a bit sleep inducing, but he has a lot of potential, especially with his musical skills, so I will be keeping an eye on him

>>13023479
That would be fucking hilarious if it happenned, especially if Tsun's males surpassed NijiEN's males and AC keeps playing hyper safe.

i dont know why people are calling neena and sara aussies but the mannerisms aren't and they are definitely SEX
>>13022459
>>13022943
i like neena mostly for the jiggle physics, thanks.
ill definitely watch nami if she plays DF adventure mode

>>13023763
Also forgot to mention, but I have actually ben watching a bit more of MyHoloTV's latest gen, especially Virion, they seem to have quite a bit of potential too.

>>13023376
Might end up happening, NA-based companies have huge advantages compared to JP-based ones. I don't see it happening in 2022 though, it'll take longer than that.

>>13023547

Nia from gen 3 of Prism also sounds young, along with Lia from Phase Connect.

>>13023700
You mean Reimu which gets around 400 or so. The other ones in her Gen get 800 and depending on the time solo a stable 1k. I still don't see any of the small corpos getting near Reimu's live numbers, nor the network to boost them like Niji EN can with their talents like they did with Reimu with their collabs. The other small corpos don't have that sort of audience, even when you look at non-bugged viewer count on Twitch. At least that is what I've seen from the more popular girls from their respective companies like Miori, Nene, and Shiki.

Let's not kid ourselves, getting 10k subscribers isn't an easy thing to do, and getting another 100 stable live viewers isn't easy as well. I am looking forward to all of the other corpos to collaborate with one another for some great collabs. I believe Millie has expressed wanting to collab with Tsunderia and Selen and Finana have collabed with WACTOR and PRISM. I just don't know where Kawaii will fit into all of this, of they'll separate themselves from the whole or not.

>>13024037
>I still don't see any of the small corpos getting near Reimu's live numbers
400 isn't too off for some of them.

>>13024105
Getting to 150 to 200 more live viewers is a lot to ask for a lot of those small corpos. Not only that but obviously only a small portion trickles down to the rest of the company as well. Looking at Nene versus Reina or Miori versus some like Orla and Meru, or even within Niji EN like Selen versus wave three. There are so many factors. They'd need something viral that catches a lot of eyes to close that gap and exceed it within a short amount of time.

>>13024105

Shiki had 300-ish watching debuts of gen 4 with last night.

>>13023700
Problem is that Miori and Yuuna are hard carrying Tsunderia as a company right now. Miori being their most popular member. However Miori has confirmed that she'll stream way less and maybe go on hiatus as a vtuber because she's going into medical school due to pressure from parents and will have to focus on it 100% that's why she's working super hard right now.

>>13023993
>Nia from gen 3 of Prism also sounds young
I heard my oshi, you rang?

>>13023479
>Never happen
The slug will have her revenge.

>>13024835
Oh fuck. Tsunderia is constantly being solo carried.. They need to produce more incline better as a team

>>13025130
>Different time zones
>Different sleep schedules
>Different work schedules
It'll be a hard thing to do.

>>13025130
Tsunderia gets carried by one of their talents at the time because everyone is on hiatus.

Holo and Niji cope. Members of Phase are already reaching out to known 3D streamers, the small corpos don't have to protect their image and thus can take more risks. Holo and Niji WILL die.

>>13025186
Going on hiatus throttles the fuck out of your growth.

>>13025130
>Oh fuck. Tsunderia is constantly being solo carried
Every single company is carried by a handful of their talents. This isn't something unique to Tsunderia, it's standard for the industry.

>>13025294
Yeah, look at Pekora versus Sora.

>>13025219
You're under the impression I don't want Niji and Holo to die. My oshi might be a holo, but the death to hegemons is preferable to stagnation. Myth already paved the way to the EN scene, their job is done. Now they must perish.

Kawaii Gen 2 is downright amazing, I loved all of them. Anyone who watched their debuts will tell you that Namiji Freesia is perfect and honestly that's not too far off. She likes different types of games, can be entertaining for hours, an amazing singer who pulled off fucking Bohemian Rhapsody almost flawlessly. Lua is an adorable dork with a unique voice. Aruru seems like a retarded zoomer but she's so fun to listen to, I can't get enough of her giggles. Neena is like a more mature Isla, nice oneesan appeal and good at games. Shee is extremely entertaining and full of energy. And all of their models are amazing upgrades from the first gen, both design and rigging.
Out of TsunDream I liked Amiya and Kazune, others were kinda meh. I'm looking forward to their music production though, I'm interested in vsingers and this gen could bring something new to the table as they not only sing but produce music, mix, play instruments etc.
All Prism debuts were extremely meh, not my cup of tea at all. I forgot half of their names instantly. Won't be subbing to any of them in near future.

>>13025294
Im aware of that but Tsunderia seems the most hard carried out of them all

>>13025355
As long as there are 2-views those companies will stick around

>>13026001
Their slice of the pie will grow smaller as the hobby increases in size. I will have my 30% holo 5% Niji board. Small corpos and 2views will blot out the sun.

>>13025386
>>both design and rigging
This anon. Remember when Hana fixed Reina's rigging. This time around there were no errors and the models move much gracefully. Kawaii just needs more eyes.

>>13016773
>it'll probably just siphon views from her and not result in much company growth, but at least they have a clear direction
Nah, I'm new to Kawaii and I've absolutely fallen for the bird. It's only been a week and I'd kill a man to have a gf like her.

>>13024835
She could always do study ASMR streams like Mumei and Bae. I dont know how successful that would be for her though

>>13002227
>Kawaii
Hololive Council, but better
>Tsunderia
Ethyria, but better
>Prism
Forgettable, no Luto or Shiki-tier heavy hitter

>>13025901
I think it seems that way because tsunderia has the lowest "floor" Kallin and Meruru are almost a year into Vtubing but have been surpassed in subs by Prism, Kawaii, the English part of Phase and even some cyberlive girls. Not to mention Hanabi and Orla and everything that went wrong with them.

>>13019290
I'm with you on this one (but am also an idolfag boomer), I've been spoiled with Aoi, Pina, and Nia, I just don't get hooked in the same way without good singing

>>13022612
cunny voice
Aruru
Sumi

cunny model
Amiya

>>13002814
Kana used to get higher numbers than Reimu gets now. None of these other small corpos have even come close to Kana's success though, they have a lot of working to do.

Also Niji Wave 4 doesn't count cuz they're males and there's a reasonable chance the whole wave will fall flat and be streaming for a few hundred people.

>>13023872
Sara is an aussie she literally said it on her debut

>>13002227
Sara and Amiya were cool I might check out Namiji

Question to Tsunderia and prism fans. Which girls put out the most covers?

>>13029249
https://www.youtube.com/c/AoiTokimori

>>13029249
>prism fans
Aoi and Shiki are the biggest music wise, but Nia, Pina, Rita, and Yura all also do covers somewhat regularly
hell, Nia put a cover yesterday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEJRyIASXQg

>>13029249
Yura does at least two covers a month and has been posting a lot of short singing snippets. You might want to check her out. People don't give her music stuff enough credit. Can plays 7 instruments and does music production too. Made some backing tracks for her songs.

https://twitter.com/YuraRikudou/status/1458333191052300295?t=A1aHjmybn4WkPJfziAaItQ&s=19

>>13030207
anon, i honestly dont think yura is as good as some people make her out to be. She sings fine and all, but she isnt as amazing as some of the others out there at least in my opinion

>>13030484
Yura has one of the best techniques among these startup chuubas

>>13030484
Aoi, Pina, Yura, Nia, and Shiki are the top singers in my opinion. Rita needs ALOT of work on her technique and Iku is very inconsistent. None of the ones from gen 4 can hold a note.

>>13029249
Miori puts out short singing videos and full covers constantly, and she was mixing her next two on stream earlier today.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-mVqujjjwGjZu3wli3iOh0FBdSU6tsNO
https://youtu.be/-KSVPHSzxPU

>>13030542
>>13030638
i never said she was bad, i just dont buy into the hype. Idk maybe it's the song choice, she just never impressed me.

>>13002227
Are there really this many females out there that small companies can pump out generations on a whim? I mean god bless them, I wish them the best of luck for a more robust industry but I'm just surprised by this.

>>13034187
Have you seen how many indie vtubers there are?

>>13034106
Her key changes are what's impressive. Might be cause she made them sound very effortless that you don't realized how hard the song actually is. This is a good example. The song has multiple key change but she's able to make it sound so smooth. https://youtube.com/shorts/Yg1EhRddi0g?feature=share

>>13034228
I only really see a handful on here and some they get better numbers than a lot of these fresh vtubers.

>>13034411
Anon, im not a music man. I just like listening to stuff. It sounds fine, but i really just dont care for her singing nor did it impress me. I dont have anything against her. It's just my opinion.

>>13034187
Yes. The indie vtuber community is thriving full of extremely talented people.

>>13034187
It's a fad right now. Of course there is.

>>13002227
Checked Tsunderia mostly due to them having the balls to debut males in a mixed wave (something not even NijiEN had the guts of doing), Nen didn't impress me at all and Lisa looked pretty alright, Tomo has pretty good singing but besides that her didn't catch me at all, Amiya looks mighty interesting with her music skills that go beyond singing, which is still pretty good mind you and being into retro games, Kazune looks cool but a bit boring so far, but his musical talent will be interesting to see grow, especially since he seems to be a bit rusted (or at least hard learned without much natural talent which makes the prospect of seeing his improvement journey all the more interesting), will definitely keep an eye on those two for the time being, especially Kazune.

>>13002227
a good line up

>>13002416
Same here

>>13038798
I wasn't sold on Lisa at first but her post-debut streams have been really fun

Im really starting to dig Sara

>>13046824
Quickly becoming one of my favourites.

>>13046824
I'll hold my judgment when it isn't debut week and does something good. She does have the best design.

>>13002227
>these numbers
Meh

>>13048313
you can't expect holo tier or niji tier for these startups anon...

I'm gonna be honest I can't help but worry that with this many new talents cropping up, it's only a matter of time until somebody from some agency has a menhera meltdown and crashes everything.

https://twitter.com/cyberlivecorp/status/1460111526308638722

Their time is close

>>13050188
Love how they debut their gens next to each other.

>>13050188
lol, I guess Cyberlive was left out of the company group chat about debuts.

>>13050628
What do you mean? They had their auditions close later so they gotta let the riggers and artists work on new models too since they allow their gens to design their own models

>>13050673
I just find it funny that Tsunderia, Prism and Kawaii clearly planned announcements and debuts together while cyberlive does their thing right after. The rrats about them being blacklisted are pretty convincing.

>>13051317
I think that is the opposite? Why would 3 companies all compete with each other at the same time? Have you not seen the burnout here? This is such a stupid hot take to think they all were like hey let's just group our generations together and it just isn't due to all companies running auditions at the same time a few months ago.

>>13034187
Top of the vtube bubble, a lot of these girls are gonna get their dreams crushed. Not really their fault, many are talented, but the timing just isnt right to be starting now

>>13051437
Do you really think it was a coincidence that they all did announcement the same weekend?

>>13051787
Do you think they planned the audition period together the same weekend? Do you think last June/July they all planned to do generations that month? Do you think they would want to compete with each other for relevancy? If so you are fucking stupid. At most, they discussed debut times.

>>13051437
They're not competing against each other. They're trying to compete with Nijisanji by scooping the potential hires and flooding the market and out-niji the Nijis.

>>13051787
I can tell you right now that didn't happen. From a marketing point of view, it isn't smart. It is better to be your own weekend and period of time. It just so happened everyone had their generations done at the same time due to auditions happening at the same time.

>>13050188
Probably still going to be a while. My guess is another week or two until reveal and then a week or two until debut.

>>13052204
yeah end of this month is a good timeline

>>13051787
>>13052011
It’s probably just competition and responding to each other.
tsunderia probably delayed a day for kawaii since kawaii sneakily and quickly announced dates and times short after tsunderias teasers.

>>13002227
Sex with Kazune.

>>13051927
>>13052011
>>13052357
I think it was planned at least to some extent. Prior to these debuts they all were doing their own thing but this time they had their debuts so close, Tsunderia and Kawaii last weekend (and they made sure not to overlap), Prism this weekend. Talents are constantly replying to each other, even retweeting, talking about each other on stream, planning collabs etc. This unity move doesn't seem so bad actually. Maybe it's more profitable to shill your talents to the audience of another small agency even risking losing a small portion of your audience the same way, than just stay irrelevant being in your bubble. I may be wrong about Tsunderia because I didn't watch anyone before TsunDream, but I had an impression that while Prism and Kawaii girls were popping up here and there, Tsunderia was mostly out of picture except for a couple of talents.
Ironically new gens entertainment value is in reverse proportion to their popularity for me. It was Kawaii 2 gen (amazing gen, good designs, no duds personality-wise) > TsunDream (liked some of them, liked that all of them are good at music production, interested in seeing how their males will do) > Prism 4 gen (didn't particularly like anyone). But I have a feeling that their popularity is exactly the opposite, Prism is getting pretty well-known because of Shiki, Tsunderia has some chuubas people know about but Kawaii is still largely obscure.

>>13050188
More?

>>13002227
That Lua girl started to grown on me

>>13050673
prism actually had their auditions end almost a month after cyberlive

>>13027005
Fill me in hanabi and orla?

>>13064112
On top of their designs being leaked on /trash/ before their official announcement, they were revealed almost a full month before their actual debut, by which point any hype for them died down.
Hanabi is a milquetoast, reclusive hermit who never interacts with anyone and is almost invisible on twitter, and she has only done two collab streams in the entire four months she's been around, one of which was a full company collab.
Orla came out looking like this (Slugma shouldn't have let this pass), and her voice and streaming personality don't exactly have mass appeal either. She's actually very nice, but she's not a moeblob like the other girls.

>>13064426
Don't forget to mention that Hanabi is an amazing digital artist and her range as a singer is actually insane. She did the background for her debut MV, and she can hit incredibly high notes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sj8anvn3do

>>13064553
She has skills for sure, but let's face it they aren't exactly helping her much.

>>13064591
I absolutely know that. That's why I shill her every chance I get. Please watch her karaoke streams, they're a lot of fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-Pm94tLpa8

>>13064426
Thanks for answer anon.
I actually do like orla's design good to know she doesn't have skeleton's in the closed and it was just a leak.

>>13064660
She flip isnt she

>>13064553
She seems comfy will check her out anon.
I can't help but notice a lack of game streams tho.

>>13029249
Miori is basically Tsunderia's cover factory but Kazu and Amiya might help add to that with their mixing and production skills. Hanabi does one karaoke stream on Sundays most weeks. Most of the other talents do occasional karaokes.

>>13064881
Indog
>>13064892
She's not much of a gamer. She's said that her favorite kinds of games are VNs, and the ones she's streamed like Saikoro Saiko are surprisingly fun

>>13064426
I do find it funny how they decided to theme the gen around Orla and Hanabi being complete opposites because it shows even on a meta level
>Hanabi has a design with broad appeal and is a great singer and artist, but she streams inconsistently and her networking game is absolutely abysmal to the point that she barely interacts even within the company
>Orla's design is extremely offputting to a lot of people and her biggest talent is being a shitposter, but she streams more than just about anyone else in the company and networks like a champ

>>13034411
>https://youtube.com/shorts/Yg1EhRddi0g
>Yura giving Miori a shoutout in the description

PRECIOUS U N I T Y

>>13065135
Didn't Miori also mix some of Shiki's recent shorts as well? When the fuck does that girl sleep?

>>13065080
Unfortunately this character dynamic is utterly wasted because not only do their designs not have any legitimate connection to each other, they don't even do anything together. This character foil may as well not even exist.

>>13062575
no they didn't. Prism's auditions ended September 20th, cyber's ended September 17th

>>13055273
Makes me wonder if some of them will ever consider a consolidation to form a bigger agency in order to create more market pull.

>>13065776
I doubt any of the US based agencies would even consider merging with JP-based agencies due to the JP copyright gauntlet. Even without that there's going to be very big differences in culture and management style behind the scenes.

>>13024105
Yuuna routinely gets about 300-350 on Twitch, and that's before any raids end up on her channel

>>13002227
I love my Birb wife Lua!

>>13002227
I like Aruru Neena and Najimi from Kawaii, Sara, anon and Sumi from prism, didn't really like tsunderia new ones

>>13055273
Some unironic schizoposting here. Talents like making friends with other talents since they're isolated otherwise. Management has nothing to do with the cross-company talent friendships. The near concurrent debuts makes sense for the audition end dates being so near each other, except for the fact Prism clearly rushed theirs out in comparison to the others.

For me it's the bratty /mu/tant sheep

Which Chuubas are parasocial?

>>13062575
Prism also had finished designs without talent input

>>13002227
>Sumi Ushio
The fuck is this?
Why does prism make a ripoff with better rigging of my sweet Finana?

>>13069368
Better personality too along with cuter voice.

>>13069396
Yea maybe in your delusions, Finana is much better

>>13067997
Lisa from Tsunderia is fast on her way to becoming dependent on her audience

>>13069543
Seems like the outcome for most Tsunderia

>>13069429
>le coomer zoomer
nah

>>13069543
At this point, I'm not surprised.

>>13067997
I have little knowledge of kawaii, but
>Tsunderia
Purin
Yuuna
Meru

>Prism
Luto
Nia
Yura
Iku
Aoi (very slightly)

>>13069593
Neck yourself clipwatcher

>>13069429
Sure thing buddy.

>>13069396
She hasn't even solo streamed yet outside of debut. That being said I do prefer Sumi's voice over Fin's

>>13069728
Thanks for confirming my suspicions, they just want to be contrarians

>>13069728
Yes and already better, her voice makes my dick diamonds.

>>13069896
It’s literally Finana’s voice if she was a heavy smoker and was ESL. Cut the shit.

>>13069964
Absolutely delusional, cut it yourself faggot.

>>13069964
Are you just making shit up or did you watch wrong chuuba

>>13069699
>Luto
This one surprises me a bit ngl.

>>13002227
>Tsunderia
>Nen is pretty unremarkable, not bad, but not interesting in any way imo unless you're a trapfag. His/Her singing is decent though. 5/10
>Tomoya is pretty good, has a nice comfy voice and personality and is a great singer. Probably the ideal of what male vtubers should be if you want to attract the female/fag audience. 7/10
>Lisa is a pretty good singer and has a nice personality, she seems to fit in well wherever she is and probably does well in collabs with how extroverted she is. 7/10
>Kazune is ok, his music isn't that good but his personality is kind of funny as the group bully victim and even Miori bullies him. Supposedly good at FPS. 5/10
>Amiya is great, she's a hag that has really oldfag interests like making pixel art, making music in mario paint, retro games, and old tech. 8/10

>Kawaii (disclaimer I didn't watch their debut streams)
>Aruru is a fps gamer cat that sounds like an actual 12 year old and has heavenly giggles. Might be a /k/ommando. 6/10
>Lua has a pure sex speaking voice and wonderful unique singing voice. 7/10
>Neena I haven't watched much of, sorry. N/A
>Namiji is pure unfiltered GFE complete with 90's and 00's rock music tastes and powerful singing. /kpg/ seemingly all gosling for her. 7/10
>Shee is kind of a normalfag but streams a lot. She doesn't stand out much but at least she's trying her best. 4/10

>Prism
>Naki is a very obvious ESL that is kind of awkward and dorky. Kinda has non-sexual little sister vibes like Meno or something. 5/10
>Sara has a more refined aussie accent compared to Luto or Bae or Sana. The other girls try to treat her as the mom of the group but she seems more like Yura. 6/10
>Sumi seems like a typical shy dorky asian girl with braces. She has a kinda lewd side though which can be really funny coming from how quiet and weak she sounds all the time. 6/10
>Non is /here/ but without being cringe. She's a pretty good drawfag and plays h-games like Rance and seemingly has a wide variety of fetishes and general degenerate interests. Honestly she's kind of unpredictable in how far she's willing to take her character, often flirting with the other girls but mostly being silly and trying to make people laugh. Her debut was probably the most noteworthy of all of them in how much comedy she packed into it so it's probably worth a watch. 8/10

>>13070724
It was a very unfortunate (or fortunate depending on your perspective) series of events that led to it. Luto's an extreme extrovert that gets energy from socializing. Australia was fucked with lockdowns (still might be as far as I know) since long before her debut so she was barely able to interact with anyone on a regular basis except her chat and thus formed her parasocial dependency (which she admitted several times when tired or drunk on stream)

>>13072177
She usually streams 12hours endurances too and all she has is chat as company.

>>13072177
That's unfortunate.

I was hoping that Sara Nagare would provide Luto some absorption of that energy to balance her out. Chat was asking her in to collab with her in the future.

>>13023479
>>13023799
I thought it can't happen before but after looking at the NijiEN's male wave candidate that happened to graduate now, I think it can happen

>>13072177
Sounds like a fortunate thing to me. Streamers actually dedicated to their fans aren't that common.

>>13071287

Based Non enjoyer. I love her too!

>>13071287
>cunny
>nonsexual imouto meno-like vibes
Why is the world unfair

>>13074314
Nah, the brand power alone can carry them farther unless something happens, especially with the base the girls made (which of course the boy were excluded from helping build).
Would still be funny if the guys sunk into irrelevancy due to not meeting the high as fuck expectations everyone will undoubtely place on them.

>>13079005
It's not that she's non-sexual but she seems more like a cute brat cause she gets flustered after saying anything lewd.

>>13002227
Naki is a great success dont care about the rest

>>13079005
Such is life anon, such is life.
>>13082051
She sounds cute.

>Sara from Prism likes TTRPG
>Healer from Kawaii likes TTRPG

just a few more...

>>13088819
God. Please. Huntermyth has been dying to include other vtuber rpg groups. IF THEY EXISTED.

>>13023479
Never say never in this industry, especially if you've been following for a long time. No one expected Hololive to usurp .LIVE's Idol-bu back in the day either.

>>13023479
It would be hilarious if it happenned, especially if their male beat NijiEN's, would be a nice punch in the fave to Anykara's cowardice.
But it's pretty much impossible that that will ever happen, unless AC screws up harcore with the next waves.

>>13002814
that day may be coming soon

>>13092174
As much as I like Tsunderias latest gen, their numbers are not so good
Niji are probably getting EN males as well

>>13069699
Yuuna has a parasocial relationship with her chat? She seems so emotionally detached from them

Will Heavenrend ever get out ultra obscure status?

>>13093385

They're doing better, I've seen them get 60-70 on Twitch. Which is easily the numbers of other small companies on YouTube.

>>13093264
>As much as I like Tsunderias latest gen, their numbers are not so good
Pretty much my point, though for indies their numbers are pretty decent for now.
>Niji are probably getting EN males as well
They are, auditions were held a few months ago and one of the main supected members announced graduation recently, a bit late tho, those guys are hyper fucked if they don't bring anything new besides having a penis, and from the looks of it, they really won't.

>>13093385
Heavenrend?

>>13093385
Another question anon, whatever happened to Amberglow and 4V Live. It looks like Terumi damaged both companies permanently.

>>13093282
Yuuna is almost physically incapable of going consecutive days without streaming because she misses her chat too much. I don't know how she's going to survive her impending break, but I suspect there will be some Twitter spaces and guerillas thrown in to alleviate the separation anxiety

>>13094607
Both got murdered by terumi

>>13094607
They both still exist, at least for now. The only Amberglow I watch is Nunki and she seems to be doing alright. 4V was a shitshow even before Terumi's exposition, and I fully expect the "company" to fold in a few months. Good thing the chuubas get to keep their mid-tier models!

>>13094989
Terumi murdered herself too. Now instead of having her very own company general, she's back in /wvt/. God, that was the most pointless and petty bitchfight I ever witnessed. It's fortunate Cyberlive came out fine. I suppose the mistakes of older /here/chuubas pave the way to newer vtubers, both obviously /here/ and lurkers alike.

>>13094931
I want to mind break a cute bread girl into needing my attention every day.

>>13095256
>that was the most pointless and petty bitchfight I ever witnessed
What's the story? Sounds like a good laugh.

>>13088819
Rita and Yura from Prism also like TTRPG

>>13097472
did not heavenrend do a oneshot TTRPG stream collab once too

>>13097523
who?

>>13094931
Seems like a recurring theme among Tsunderia, well across chuubas in general, especially female ones from what I have seen.

>>13002227
Nami is literally sex. God bless my wife.

>>13097038
Terumi went indie by buying her assets and proceeded to shit talk her previous company (after just a day of a tearful parting with her genmates, Cyberlive, and some other company I forgot. The now-dead /amber glow/ went up in flames as Terumi, her private discord and Amber Glow talents/managers duked it out in the thread while everyone watched it burn. Some portions of /asp/ and /wvt/ either joined in the shitposting or just observe the trashfire. Previously, there was also an argument in /asp/ between presumably Terumi and CyberLumi about black companies. The worst part here is there was no fucking yab at all, just Terumi having a menhera attack and resulted to hurt feelings and burnt bridges. She didn't even do anything worthy of condemning, but she was just fucking retarded.

>mfw the entire time

>>13104289
The end result of that? Terumi failing to stream regularly, continuously asking for donations from her remaining fans. Talking about how she's been betrayed all her life by people including her parents and how she has nobody left. Terumi is a menhera of the highest degree and nobody should ever listen to her.

>>13104289
>>13104532
Jesús Christ what a pointless thing to do. I'm impressed.

>>13104289
terumi did nothing wrong

>>13099012
>Yuuna has abandonment issues
SO CUTE

>>13109724
If you are into that, I guess it is.

>>13093503
Are they going to make it?

>>13002227
Which of these small companies have FF14 permissions?

>>13113338
Definitely Production Kawaii, Charzu plays it online and Namiji plays it offline but doesn't want to stream it. Both will do an 8 hr Endwalker review.

>>13093385
What the hell is a Heavenrend

>>13114541
That's what I have been wondering too.

>>13114541

>>13117385
QRD on them?

>>13002227
They look interesting, but not many of them caught my attention desu, though gotta give Tsunderia some credit for actually risking ad trying out something different and debuting males and putting them in a mixed wave instead of segregating them into a different group on top of that, not even NijiEN took such a step.