/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>>12960730
A metaphor for HoloEN burning?

I can't wait for cover to NOT give Pekora her outfit.

>>12960730
To perpetuate the curse, one member of Hololive English was cursed to carry elements of fast food service, a trade so infernal that Cover would retain its good luck through the worst of yabs...

>>12960757
rent free

>>12960781
Kiar...

>>12960761
how can you blame Cover when Pekora is the one that is super picky about new outfits

>25 min in, 56k
Rushia controlling the time to perfection, will likely pad 15 more minutes with fluff and then slowly reveal

>>12960792
Don't reply to the EN schizo. Unless you're the Gen5 schizo, then feel free to fight him for us.

>>12960802
because it probably was a shitty cat ear outfit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mckVW46GMk4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mckVW46GMk4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mckVW46GMk4

On a more number-related news, Rushia is only at 57k

>>12960832
>only
kek, main event didn't even start and she's already at 57k

>>12960802
Why would cover do a public apology on twitter if the problem is peko?

>>12960880
True.

But let's put on our tinfoil hats. It's always better for management to get criticism instead of the talents.

>>12960802
To be fair Pekora's original outfit is practically perfect. They shouldve just given her a glasses accessory and unbraided hair if the delay for 2nd outfit is so damn long.

>>12960624
So the already "mistaken for Holos" like Ange, Ars, Lain, etc would fall off?

Then I'd still recommend Kyoko.
She's an interesting content creator that's struggling with numbers in Niji.
She'd bring some Garage Rock vocals, which Holo is still mostly missing.
Plus she'd become the "dark" and gyaru fashionista, taking those chara aspects away from Flare and Towa's design, which neither liked.

60k GET

>>12960943
>and unbraided hair
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! THE PROPHECIES!

>>12960898
Why would they criticize her if she's just picky with the costume? Thats like nothingburger and its not worth criticizing and her fans would be more understanding of the situation.

>>12960856
>The only stream at the moment
>Event

>>12960809
pekochan is coaching while rehearsing for her own outfit next month in winter holidays

>>12960880
To avoid another Pekora tantrum where she cries for 30 mins in a members stream

>>12960989
Anon, 60k is an absurdly big number.

>semi-naked, unbraided, glasses rushia
Stream will get 90k if that is the one she gets.

>>12960988
Pekora's fans were pissed that Rushia got another outfit before her, management knows its better to take the blame for delays than to put it on the girls.

Don't most holos bring up the outfit 30 mins in? Rushia learning the numberfag ways

>>12961017
And what does the lower-level nijisanji have to do with it? I talk about vtuber with an audience of millions.

>>12961017
NOT BIG ENOUGH. MUST GO BIGGER. MORE.

>>12960880
Because Management 101

>>12961121
45 min in if they do a "let's look at predictions"
unless they have a lot of accessories.

Reminder that Rushia outfit will funnel into **this**

>>12961121
About 40 actually, and do a slow tease. In fact, it's about time for her to switch to the slow tease. Probably in the next few minutes.

OH NO

susan'ed?

AYO RUSHIA THE STALL IS TOO LONG

>susan

>>12961136
show me the top-level niji power, yeah Kuzuha, sure his outfit reveal was over 60k right? he's the top niji after all, right?

>>12960973
Cute. Yeah she's probably good for Holo.

Viewers dropping now. Gotta bring it out

>>12961168
FUCKING ILLEGAL

>>12961136
>>12961017
Stop using Fumi's amazing ass for bait.
60k is still big and wait for the full actual reveal for the final numbers.

>>12961168
Absolutely, heinously I L L E G A L.

>>12961136
OK; what about this.
>1M subs vtuber
>biggest male vtuber by any metric

>>12961136
Maybe Niji management should get their shit together and force their talents to reach 1M? It's not like it's difficult to get.

>>12961017
Leave her alone, she is nearing grandma stage, all she has left in life is gundam and food

>>12961232
it was a paid event, doesnt count

>>12961183
The heck? Did Susan decide to take a bite out of her numbers? Such an odd time to do it too.

Just show the goddamn costume jesus views dropping now

>>12961183
>>12961187
>>12961195
Not "Susan'd", it's the new "you're growting too fast, let's check"

START THE TEASE RUSHIA

>>12960973
Would Hololive accept a mega shotacon fujo who draws kissing art of her own coworkers (male)?

>>12961265
>>12961285
Haha no.

>>12961265
She's noticed she's going long, rushing through them now.

>>12961256
cope

>>12961256
This one, maybe?

>only one of these two vampires has 1M subs

>>12961283
>"you're growting too fast, let's check"
that's still susan

>>12961265
That's just Susan cutting ccv happened to Mel too
what this anon said >>12961283
most probably the reason why gura had low ccv earlier

>>12961343
But not the "old" Susan, this is a new one, done deliberately instead of crashing the stream with buffering

>>12960973
Hololive is notorious for their rigorous training process so I doubt she could pass it.

>>12961335
i-it doesn't count! because I said so!!

To be fair Noel's outfit took 40 minutes of stall, I'm guessing rushia just took reference from that.

>>12961351
>most probably the reason why gura had low ccv earlier
Nah, it was just a mismatch of content and streamer.
Miku game without Miku? Hard pass. Gura DMC? Also hard pass for many, even the VOD for that series struggle

Only 15 mins left, Rushia is an idiot.
She'll only peak 70k here

>>12961418
>Only 15 mins left
There is no time limit, she can easily go through the top of the hour if she decides so.

Well she beat her last years costume numbers of 64k.

>>12961418
Thats a pretty good stall though.

>>12961455
upcoming streams dumbass.

Feet on screen, 67k

70k get

72k already
>T-There is no such thing as tab out / tab in

73k!

>>12961351
Its people checking other stream because shes stalling too long (i was switching streams too), even 5ch jops are complaining.

>Another pink hair costume
God damn it Rushia, just accept your hair is green already

>>12961418
You don't know what you're talking about anon what rushia did was pretty good for numbers.

HOLD IT FOR 80K, JUST A COUPLE MORE MINUTES.

>>12961418
>She'll only peak 70k here
Never question the top SC earner ever again.

AAAH HOLD HOLD HOLD

>>12961418
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Ruhsia new clothes look similar to nene ones

Pink and green fusion hair, MY DICK AND THE NUMBERS ARE INCLINING!

>>12961557
>gradient from green
you spoke too soon anon.

and speaking some numbers, the resolution on this outfit right now is pretty low. Hope it's just a capture issue.

80k will be the peak!!
Very nice rushia!!!!
90k is impossible unfortunately

>That sea of "Member free superchat"
Susan may have dealt heavy blow on "impulse SC culture"

>>12961418
fucking retard

80k GET

CLUTCH

80k just in time

wassup with ruhsia long neck in her new model?

She held for EXACTLY 80k to show the whole thing

80k!

>>12961557
>gradient
problem solved

>>12961636
Eh. If the Holomem really care they can disable it on their channel.

Disappointed that it's just a school uniform, but the hair looks great.

Let's see if any of the accessories wow people back to over 81k.

good effort, but suichan was a little higher

Can she get a double peak?

>>12961418

Were you saying?

here comes the money

THERE'S ANOTHER ONE?

She couldve tease it for 20 mins if she didnt waste time showing those costume predictions.

WHERE'S THE NAKED VERSION RUSHIA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

>>12961736
nah, her long ass neck kinda ruined it

>>12961732
Suichan had the better outfit so it's earned. Still very good numbers from Rushia.

>>12961780
What about a taco sex parka?

>>12961732
to be fair, suzy's outfit looks better. no offense, Rushia's new outfit feels very boring to me

>>12961814
stay mad

WAIT, THERE IS MORE

GOLD GET GOLD GET GOLD GET GOLD GET GOLD GET GOLD GET

>only 80k
Can anyone even beat Noel

>>12961199
Why does Nijisanji live rent free in your head?
I was just talking about Rushia's numbers.

When Kuzuha showed trap outfit, other streams overlap him.

>>12961900
Other that Gura?

>>12961848
open her stream again. She should have started with the hoodie imo

>>12961900
>piting holo against holo already
Fucking nijinigger every single time

>>12961916
and so the cope begins

School uniform for rushia will help her farm SC even more. Just do a bit of jk roleplay and the money will flow.

Btw I'm curious, how on earth did Pekora hold the 80k audience for 30 minutes after the reveal of her april fools outfit..

This makes me want to boot up koikatsu again

>>12961916
>When Kuzuha showed trap outfit, other streams overlap him.
True, they stole a combined total of
>some 6k or so

Actually the combined total of all Nijisanji streamers in that moment didn't reach 80k

>>12961900
pekora can of course. You're forgetting Marine got 130k, highest for gen 3

Disappointing reveal. Her first one did better https://youtu.be/g2nf-28JTps

>>12961941
The stream was special, the whole "got arrested" bit and the guests

Rigging seems a little wonky to me

>>12961962
?
Marine got 139 twice, but Noel got 140k for her outfit last year.

nijidogs seething already

>>12961916
>When Kuzuha showed trap outfit, other streams overlap him.
that's just cope

>>12961814
kek, proportions are the same
you havent noticed it before because of her collar/choker

>>12962012
Isn't that after Miko's return live?

>>12961999
I wonder if that's the reason why her second outfit is taking long. I won't be surprised if she purposely delayed it to december to maximise the holiday buff.

>>12962010
Rigging is always wonky on reveal, it's not calibrated for the switch yet.

>>12962027
>>12961959

Heeeeere comes the funneeellllll

>>12962012
illegal view funneling from Miko Return 3D

>>12962055
im thinking shes waiting to do it the same week as holoEN new outfits as well. Good thing she didnt promise any dates

>>12959487

>>12962028
Yea, now it's kinda very obvious without the collar and i just cant unsee it...looks very weird

Rushia, you can end it now. don't drag it on for too long

>>12962085
Yeah, a cope

>>12962136
gotta do her superchat reps now.

>>12962136

If she go for superchat reading then it will have a long stream ahead still

Suisei holding firm with the intro, waiting for the wormhole to connect to the Stargate

since we're talking about costume reveal streams overlapping... Can I include this? almost 200k

>>12962104
she only said "before the year ends"

kek, Suisei spaghetti hands and opened the stream without Polka being ready

>>12962175
Fashion week saved vtubing numbers.

>>12962237
This part-timer won't get a proper position at this rate.

Sometimes I wish the numbers thread existed when Gura had that 120k karaoke stream.

Suisei pulled the perfect transition, held the start of the stream in the intro, then started and stalled for as long as it took for Rushia to wrap up.

Now the funnel begins

>26,182 watching nowStarted streaming 9 minutes ago
will we actually get 5 streams over 30k today?

Serious question. I only see the illegal view funneling on Hololive.

Does the same thing happen to Niji too?

>>12962389
Yes

>>12962389
Not even the correct question, which should be
>will MarioParty beat 40k? 45k?

>>12962012
>last year
that was pre Dec 2020 tho

>>12962396
only during tournaments

>>12962396
>Does the same thing happen to Niji too?
Yes, but the funnel works in reverse

>MultiPOV collab with Selen being one of the parties
>Even the base viewership of the other girls get sucked in by Selen reverse funnel

Easy 30k

>>12962352
God bless Suisei. When she put an ad for her own concert over her own face during her costume reveal I knew she was a true numberfag at heart. Going from a 2 view scraping by to top JP vtuber musician is well deserved

>>12962480
doesn't that mean she's the nijien kuzuha?

>>12962480
So is the same with Gura dumbass, EN fanbase are dumb as shit.

Man Myth 3D has been delayed so long now at first I was worried it was too long, but anticipation has been building forever. Should each get their own day? Or relay? Or relay into concert? I feel like those numbers could break 150k for Gura

>>12962551
>So is the same with Gura dumbass,
WTF? Not only that is not true but it is in reverse, Gura **loses** viewers in collabs.
One of the most used image by the "kuzunigger" was that collab where Ina got a bigger audience than Gura in a 2 POV collab between then

>>12962551
There were collabs where Ina got the higher CCV over Gura IIRC.

>>12962582
it's gonna be a concert with all of them. Mori could easily have one but they're stalling

>>12962480
Stop using midget img in JP primetime.

>>12962548
Stop with the kuzuha of nijien. She should get big numbers first.

>>12962582
relay is only useful for the weaker performers. Id rather have each of them have a whole hour each day

NijiKR…

>>12960880
t. I have no idea why parents apologize for their children's behaviour

>>12962699
>notGura is number one
kek

>>12962785
>notGura is number one
huh?

>>12962666
You're a fool, Gura wouldn't have gotten her 194k if Ame hadn't revealed her costume an hour before, even if there was a 45 minute gap between when Ame ended and Gura started, you bet Ame's reveal pumped up Gura's numbers as there were more tourists around ready and waiting.
Now that I look at the curve for Gura's reveal its actually crazy how HIGH her average is for that damned stream, she had 120k+ for a good chunk of time she was going through the fanart predictions.

>>12962699
holofightz reclining...

>>12962843
Gosegugosegu, part of that group of 6 'idols from another world' Korean group that said they were directly inspired by Hololive.

>>12962605
Kek, more proof that HoloEN is declining so bad, the "golden girl" is losing to an artist.

>>12962843
Isn't that girl the girl from isegye idol

>>12962699
korean gura i kneel..

>>12962699
kek, HoloFightz mogging the median of both NijiID, nijiKR **AND** Holostars.

>>12962853
Rough time slot, has to compete against actual Holostreams.

>>12962872
Hololive is starting to lose KR market to this group too. This is really great.

>>12962848
>gura and ame had costume reveals on same day
anon.....
>Gura May 6, 2021
>Ame May 7, 2021

>>12962785
Holy deal even the name is similar. The fact they openly claim inspiration actually seems to give them some cover from accusations of plagiarism. Really curious how Cover chooses to deal with them. They are getting significant numbers now

>>12962905
>Hololive is starting to lose KR market
kek, is this some form of advanced cope I didn't see in this thread before?

>>12962923
I am retarded. Holy am I fucking retarded. I'm gonna go and neck myself rq brb.

>12960757
>[ ]stream watcher
>[ ]clip watcher
>[ ]thread reader
>[ ]thread skimmer
>[x]thread guesser
The absolute state of shitposting...

>>12962926
Well, her design doesn't look similar to Gura at least
I feel her design looks similar to Senzawa though

>12962905
>Coping already
>As he sweats profusely that HoloKR might drop randomly, with all the hints given lately
Oh, its afraid, very threatened

>>12962942
It's probably the one Anon who always goes "Cover doesn't deserve this! They do nothing and yet they keeping getting win after win!" Now gleefully rubbing his hands as he sees this as Cover losing a market they don't deserve because they haven't made any investments into it.

Shiraken 42k

While nobody was paying attention, teh collab blasted through 40k

NEW ROUND
>PREDICTIONS?

There is no over/under, just say what you think it will get.

>>12963074
I say they break 45k, but I don't think there enough momentum to go much higher than that.

Friend getting another 10k but
>WTF HAPPENED HERE?

Fubuki somehow hit 10k playing a rather obscure game.

>>12963132

She had to restart her PC for a bit but she recovered the CCV quite fast

>>12963057
Ehhh if Hololive drops a KR branch this group is basically helping provide ground work for them. They could try to aquire them, try to compete, or just coexist like HoloID does with the local scene. Are these girls open Holo fans?

>Meanwhile, in Rushia's channel
She focking fainted us lads!

I thought she had wrapped up but, of course she'll stay back and suck the fandead dry
>RUSHIA-SAMA, I KNEEL!

Suisei just lost 5k viewers as well randomly.

>>12963229
It's not randomly. When it either hits a certain amount of time or a certain amount of views the same bot that kicks in when the waiting room turns into a stream kicks in again and do another check

This behaviour changed a couple of weeks ago

>>12963229
It's Susan's new 'feature' at work damnit. Stream didn't even stutter and she's ready recovering.

Susan?

>>12963229
Susan unable to accept that fact that anime girls are superior than their poster girl

>>12963189
Well they made a cover of ochame kinou with an additional title of hololive hommage.

>>12963269
All of Susan’s decisions are based on other shit that has nothing to do with vtubers but it still makes streaming on Yt as unattractive as fuck. Yt gaming is probably seething at the head office but they aren’t big enough to matter yet

>>12963189
all of them are holofags. Hololive opened the floodgate.
>Around April 2021, Virtual YouTubers began to gain popularity in Korea in earnest as the frequency of exposure increased due to the influence of YouTube algorithms.[35]
>And among the 2nd HoloLive EN members who debuted in August 2021, two (37) who can speak Korean and are interested in Korean culture made their debut, and the mention of YouTubers in various communities increased significantly.
>As a result of this phenomenon, a large number of Korean viewers flowed in, resulting in a rise in content, but more and more foreign YouTubers are struggling, such as chatting in Korean or writing political comments that do not observe chat manners, drawing criticism from keygall, busgal, and Lulugal.

>>12963316
If they come off as leeches or copycats I think Cover can crush them and no one will care. If they come across as genuine Holo fans people would probably feel bad for them. Perception matters a lot

>>12963189
IMO, the smartest thing would be to collab with them a ton. They earn the 'official approval' of cover, and it gives Cover an in on the KR chubba market which is more Twitch focused.
If they actually manage a coup and basically hire all 6 wholesale for a new gen, well, that's basically 1000% game over, but there's probably too many logistical issues for that path to work smoothly.

>2020 meta: goth loli
>2021 meta: hoodies

>>12963411
>Always meta: Cat ear accessories.

>>12963390
>IMO, the smartest thing would be to collab with them a ton.
They can always go the "MyHoloTV" route and use them as an "academy" of sorts

>>12963364
The good thing about them and their community, they aren't begging for collab with holos, unlike EN

>>12963411
this will solve Pegora's hate on cat ears, just stitch it on hoodie

>>12963467
Pekora would have six ears if they tackled cat ears on her

>>12963467
just give pekora the hoodie, no cat ears

>>12963435
Do they speak any English or JP? They’d need pretty good language skills before a collab makes sense unless it were with Ina or Kronii.

>>12963435
>>12963614
Wouldn't a smoother path be a collab with Bora Nun and Towa?

this is pekor's new costume and you will like it

>>12963333
>keygall, busgal, and Lulugal.
What the hell is this?

To be fair pekora could literally just update her love2d and add a "remove coat" to her bunny girl suit option and people will probably coom so hard

https://gamebiz.jp/news/337191
Bushiroad got record numbers with their holo cards.

>>12963411
Oh man, I sure wish Gura gets one too. I wouldn't want her to miss out on that, even if it made her head look rounder.

>>12963739

I would, true

>>12963749
kek, I'll chalk that as an attempt at a joke

>>12963411
Coco was ahead of her time...

>>12963709
At least they didn't draw criticism from Siogal

>>12963747
>TCG division The TCG division achieved record high sales in the quarter. In the main TCG "Weiss Schwarz", "Hololive Production" recorded the highest sales in the history of Weiss Schwarz, and other products also performed well.
Explains why Bushiroad loves Hololive.

https://twitter.com/youtubejapan/status/1459508616453660678

>>12963888
We all knew they wee making money hand over fist with those since they have been sponsoring Holos major events. This just quantifies jist how much.

>>12963747
>(3) MD Division
In Q1 FY8/13, the company transferred its MD/EC business to its subsidiary Bushiroad Creative via an absorption-type split. This will consolidate the group's functions and resources, and the company aims to further expand the MD division. Overall sales were strong, especially for capsules and general distribution, and sales from events and OEM for other companies' IP such as "Genshin" and "Hololive Production" were also at record levels, resulting in record quarterly sales for the MD division.

complete normal functioning platform.

>>12964006
Is YTjapan just a goddamn schizo? There's almost no rhyme or reason as to what they like on any given day...

>>12964203
100% intended. The fact that it's happened twice today is proof enough of this nonsense, and I've noticed it crop up in other streams too.

>>12964006
>>12964204
WHAT THE FLYING FUCK?

>>12964283
she hasnt streamed for almost a week too

>>12964204
>YT is one person
I mean, they may as well be, but that's not how things work in the real world.

This guy 3D is next friday, I feel sorry for him.

>>12964006
Pekora mentioned doing something with youtube. They will probably do similar shit with her.

>>12964312
I meant, the person running the account really. It's probably more than one person, but who knows. Also yea, AQUA DOKO???

>>12964377
pekora on youtube rewind LET'S GOOOOO

>>12964283
I wonder if the guy handling Twitter is just an aqua fan who wants her to stream kek

>>12964405
I'd say that would make her chat even more cancer, but Nousagi are already pretty goddamn crazy, so...

>>12964499
If there's one Holo who can handle cancer tourists it would be her. Being a qualified kindergarten teacher helped her alot .

>>12964471

based

https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1dRKZlWAPLAJB
Towa's space

>>12964692
Jeez thats as much as she normally gets for Apex...
Twappi....pls less apex...

Shiraken collab at 46k. C'mon, get to 50k, just 6 more turns...

>>12964984
rumao, susan said no

SUSANNNNNN

>>12964984
Ah. BLOODY HELL JINXED IT. WHY'D YOU DO THAT??

>>12964984
fuck you anon, you cursed it.

>>12964984

Never I have seen such a powerful Jinx before

>>12964984
anon why are you like this?

>>12965021
>>12965033
>>12965043
>>12965046
>>12965060
>>12965080
I am so sorry everyone. I'll learn to be more careful when taunting the watamage from now on.

>>12965119

She is making another frame

50K views btw

>>12964692
5.5k now

Botan went from 9k to almost 11k when the stream died LOL
lets go Shishiron

>>12965198
Susan taketh away, Susan giveth.

>>12965198
I L E G L A L
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>MOSHI MOSHI, KEISATSU DESU KA?
They said they would investigate. Some officer “Oozora” or something.

>>12965477
hm, suichan stream is back up with over 30k but botan is keeping the 11k though

>>12965160
Su-sugoi...

>>12965507
Well people who didn't pay attention will think that Suisei's stream is done. It autoplay Botan's stream afterall.

>>12965507
Simply means that some.of those viewers decided to stay with Botan even after the new frame was put up, or they now have Botan as their 'active frame's with Suichan in the background. Who knows with Susan.

btw, if anyone has any doubt of why Rushia pulls the SC number she does, here is the explanation
>you send her money, she’ll acknowledge you
It’s a very frontal and no nonsense arrangement
>no gimmicks
>no bait
>no nothing
She will spend whatever time necessary and acknowledge you
(Unless of course you step out of line)

For a whole generation craving some sort of acknowledgment this is the cheapest easiest deal they’ll get.

>>12965621
Anyone not paying attention is not part of the audience anyway. That stream is one of the most entertaining MarioParty I ever watched.

Do we have an official ranking on the corpos? There's so many of these smaller ones

>>12965667
>GFE
>no bait

>>12965667
Japan is a cesspool of lonely ass men and vtubers are a blessing for them. Those old men in their 30s probably looked towards Watame as if it's their own daughter or something. Nene and Lamy is a different kind of GFE while Rushia, she sucks all the blood in your body without you even noticing it. Something IRyS is shaping up to be if she weren't so busy with vsinger stuff and stream daily.

>>12965765
The pinnacle of GFE is when there's is no bait and a breath could turn hundreds of men into machines meant to give akas everyday

>>12965765
GFE is not a "gimmick". "Bath water for 10 bucks, teehee, just a joke" is a gimmick

Shiraken 36k. getting back its numbers

>>12965856
This but unironically. Watame got chats from a guy who lost his wife and daughter and she filled a filled a hole in his heart. A widowed salary man isn’t going to hit the dating scene, and even if he does he’s probably not going to have more kids. But he can root for Watame to succeed like a surrogate Daighter. There are worse ways to cope

>>12965856
>Those old men in their 30s probably looked towards Watame as if it's their own daughter or something.
>>12966085
>This but unironically
I don’t think he meant it ironically. What he described about Watame goes for Haachama too.
Haatons like to play up the “sexychama” angle but, in reality, they’re just building up her confidence as their surrogate retarded daughter.

>>12965856
>Those old men in their 30s probably looked towards Watame as if it's their own daughter
Ironic since she'd be older than many of them

>>12966312
Doesn't Watame have a pretty large 50+ demographic? Based off of that karaoke stats I saw floating around...

>>12966016
39 now holy fuck

>>12966312
>she'd be older than many of them
That's immaterial. One of the best things about this whole weeb thing (for nips and westerners) is the fact
>a MeguminFag is a MeguminFag
>an EmilaFag is an EmilaFag
and neither could care less that there is a common characteristic between both characters that binds them.
It just doesn't matter, Megumin is Megumin, Emilia is Emilia

ILLEGAL

>>12966456

ShiraKen SAIKOU

>>12966456
The second one won't be in today's chart tho, given that it is the same one as the first. Whatever gets the higher score stays

>>12966456
Very illegal, but only one will count on the ranking since its the same game continued due to a connection error.

>>12966312
I mean the same applies to almost every chuuba, do you think fujos will give money to males if they know how they look?

>>12966517
>>12966529
Still impressive regardless

>>12966517
>Shibuya hal spams apex 4 times a day
>Gets 2 stream peaks above 10k
>Both streams are in the daily 10k+ chart

>>12966529
You say that when there were times two of the same streams are counted in the top 10. The one that made me seethe was during niji's smash tourney where gwelu had a connection problem and took two spots in the top 3.

>>12966529
>>12966517
This is cope

nips actually count reframes like that like they did when Kuzuha did it so if you count re-framing Holo had 20 streams over 10k.

Gura must be using subbot becuase there're no way in hell she is still increasing in sub when her popularity is plummeting like crazy.

>>12966599
It shouldn't have counted, at least, not according to how the list has been counted as far as I recall, so I'm not sure why the list-anon did it that way for that day.

Suisei ending soon, who's gettign the illegal funneling?

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - NOVEMBER 2021

1) Marine (Hololive) - 34.7k - Karaoke
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 42.5 - Minecraft (Sport fest prep)
3) Chronoir (Nijisanji) - 48.9k - Announcement
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 36.4k - Rhythm Heaven
5) Luis Cammy (Nijisanji) - 39.4k - 3D Debut
6) Miko (Hololive) - 81.5k - Minecraft Sports Fest
7) Miko (Hololive) - 69.7k - Sport Fest Totsu
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.6k - Evil God korone
9) Subaru (Hololive) - 44k - Evil God Korone
10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 56k - Kuzuha Concert Free Part
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 55k - First FFXIV stream
12) Fumi (Nijisanji) - 38k - 3D Debut
13) Rushia (Hololive) - 81k - Outfit reveal

>>12965856
>Something IRyS is shaping up to be if she weren't so busy with vsinger stuff and stream daily.
I feel like Fauna is EN closest to that actually. Too bad she has a huge roommate debuff.

>>12964308
yeah and? her achievements are real

>>12966753
My bet is Kanata gets a few thousand.

>>12966753
Shion will pick up a couple thousand

>>12965856
How does this explain people like coco or mori who get superchat but their not exactly GFE.

>>12965856
>old men in their 30s
in what third world country si 30 considered old?

>>12966782
illegal

>>12966760
Holo 9-4 Niji

>>12966824
absolutely illegal

>>12966850
Discord.

>>12966857
Very. Watch her crack the 10k+ list off of this.

>>12966850
kek, look at this 27 years old boomer here trying to hang on to his youth

Man, really makes me wish there was a holostats equiv. for Niji, just so we could track where people end up after leaving a big event. As is, there's really no easy way to track it since Nijimado doesn't offer these sorts of easily digested graphs, and I don't know if the twitter bots that track Niji stuff ping the api often enough for good enough resolution.

>>12966844
Tomboy daughter experience or just the Bro experience (Like Selen).
Altho Mori is a different case since she promotes herself as a musician thus get a buff from there, also she was the first EN to debut who let a big impression due her rapping.

>>12966857
>>12966887
Kanata broke 10K and Shion went to 17K. These illegal funnelings must be stopped.

>>12966844
Same reason dudes get tips in twitch.

>>12966844
>mori
Come on, Calli is the ultimate "goth tomboy girlfriend experience"

Now, if you guys think about it, the "funnel" started at very least 12 hours ago with Pekora and Subaru and got passed from the previous to the next up until shion, after midnight JST

>>12962175
Saved this pic just in case ID/JP complained that EN overlapped with their events.

>>12967165
EN should stream in jp mornings to complete the Holo circuit.

>>12967227
IMO if someone really wanted to do the grind, do a short 1-2 hour stream in mornings, do a longer stream in the evening.
But HoloEN is allergic to grinding like the JPs are willing to do (like Fubuki) so I dunno.

>>12967227
That's... exactly what happened today

>>12967262
Yep, Irys with Korone game

Shiranui Kensetsu trending

>>12967165
Why is that game such a debuff and why does a numbersagi like Pekora keep playing it?

>>12967422
Read threads you godsdamned tourist.
But here's some spoonfeeding: it's sponsored.

>>12967422
22k was her floor so its not really that much of a debuff. She's getting sponsored to play the game so ein-ein for her.

>>12967462
>>12967491
Stop, you'll trigger "obvious bait" guy.

>>12967422
The number for those streams are the money anon.

>>12967286
Kneeling

https://twitter.com/Akupuff/status/1459266675862163456?t=FBxKeJLhA51BCAsAjl__eQ&s=19

Cover needs to make a deal with the creator to put this comic on HoloAlt project. This style is very nostalgic and Western friendly as well. I can it being fairly popular with kids.

>>12967422
It's sponsored and she's enjoying the game. She was asking for judgment permissions after playing yakuza but sega decided to sponsor her instead of simply giving them.

>>12967611
Anon, Hololive avatars are in animu style. They don't need to make the comic in that style. Mango is also very popular with kids and the west.

Is shiraken maripa ccv bigger than their last minecraft collab?

>>12963364
> An indie group claimed to be a fan of your game, and created a parody game based of your product. This fan game has gained significant followings. What would you do?
a. Copyright strike it. Piracy is bad. (-5% fans)
b. Contact their team, and learn their stack (+5% R&D speed)
c. Hold a small event to highlight fan contents (+5% fans)
d. Do nothing. (a random event will occur)

This is a classic scenario.

>>12967693

>>12967688
How does she do it?

>>12967773
Top 5 female streamer

>>12967773
anon, she's the top female gaming streamer in the world.

Speaking of Lost Judgment, she just put the waiting room for the next stream and the title says 最終回 (Final episode). I wonder how much this one will do.

https://youtu.be/ZZZy1NmXKo0

>>12967693
So? It's called diversifying your damn product. Ah I'm sorry, I didn't think soneone in 4chan were this uneducated business wise.

>>12967878
Most likely over 30k

>>12967878
Might do pretty well, her Yakuza endings did 40k+. Don`t remember how the original Judgement did but likely a bit under whatever that was.

>>12967882
>diversifying your damn product
More like going off-brand, waste of time.

>>12967882
I'm sorry your art style is terrible.

Do you think Konami will kneel if Pekora asks for permissions to play Metal Gear?

>>12967937
Thank goodness you don't own any businesses.

>>12967878
Probably a bit more than previous judgement ending because newer game. But idk maybe someone who played it can tell if it has better story

>>12967921
The final Judgement stream for the first game got 39.4k.

>>12967946
I'm sorry your brain is rotten.

>>12967973
So we have already have a winner for tomorrow

>>12967882
Yea, time to open an audition for Hololive India. I'm sure this diversification will do well. Fucking retard.

>>12967946
Yeah, I know. But that doesn't mean I will stop. Just message T-chan about the comic so wish me luck.

>>12967967
No, they're deep in bed with Nijisanji who are shilling their pachinko machines.

>>12968016
Wow, I didn't think an idiot would exist in 4chan.

>>12967971
Some Yakuza fans are saying this game can rival 0 soo

>>12967882
What you are trying to get is the furry community more than ever just for you wanting to "diversify". Cover doesn't need it and if they did, they can do it on house and still makes millions out of it and westerners will eat it too unlike that shitty art you posted.

>>12967967
I really fucking wish, revengance stream is the dream. Also even better if she gets silent hill perms.

>>12968004
hey give Azki a chance

>>12967937
Cover is always known for wasting time anyway. Just look at HoloEN and their useless efforts

>>12968071
I'm sorry. I just wanted to share that's all. Fuck me for trying.

>>12968050
> Got negative feedback from a shilling post
> Be passive aggressive
> Got called out
> "I-Idiot!"

Has that retard who likes to pretend that he knows what he's saying and replies like an under-aged troll always been here?

>>12968087
Aaannd we're back.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>80,950: Rushia (Hololive)
>46,496: Suisei (Hololive)
>35,203: Fubuki (Hololive)
>32,326: Marine (Hololive)
>31,657: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>22,724: Pekora (Hololive)
>20,670: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>19,916: Subaru (Hololive)
>15,089: Subaru (Hololive)
>14,635: Noel (Hololive)
>13,981: Amelia (Hololive)
>13,652: Leos (Nijisanji)
>12,935: Gura (Hololive)
>12,599: Ars Almal (Nijisanji)
>12,489: Mio (Hololive)
>12,274: Gura (Hololive)
>12,241: IRyS (Hololive)
>11,622: Hololive (Hololive)
>11,392: Botan (Hololive)
>11,308: Lize (Nijisanji)
>11,110: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>10,822: Calli (Hololive)
>10,569: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,436: Mel (Hololive)
>10,026: Noel (Hololive)

>>12968087
What kind of reverse fucking psychology is this shit? Gura ain't going to fuck you, you pedo ass retard.

>>12966189
idk all i know is that i want to breed Haachama irl

>>12968103
Get a thiccer skin. And thank the stars you are in one of the blandest boards in this site, given that you were not called 27 synonyms for nigger for no reason whatsoever

>>12968126
Too obvious really. He's using this opportunity to stir shit up again.

>>12968132
btw, Saturday is a day strong as fuck. 5k wouldn't put you in the unfiltered top 100

>>12968132
Kuzuha saving Niji from top 10 wiped YET AGAIN

>>12968132

>>12968103
If you hadn't drawn such shit-ass Hololive comic, you would not have received shit like this.

>>12967611
It sucks.

>>12967611
YIIF IN HELL; FURFAGS!

>>12968132
What was Ars doing in Apex that got her that high? Was it a gacha stream?

Here is a funny thing
>Hiromoot median would put him at the top 5 of either Hololive or Nijisanji

So what are the odd that Kronii catch up with IRyS in sub count by late december and reaches the 1 million sub mark before her

>>12968212
Top 100? Jesus that is brutal. The depth of the field is getting crazy

Why does Holo artists even visit this board especially this thread? It's a numbers thread. It's a number shitting thread. Even that Gura animator visits this place.

Not to mention, a niji intern, 2views or real chuubas

>>12968132
>19 Holo streams above 10k
>Everyone else combined only has 6 streams above 10k
>King can't even get bronze even if you dicounted Rushia's costume reveal

Jesas. This shit is just unfair at this point.

>>12968351
>So what are the odd that Kronii catch up with IRyS in sub count by late december
Zero.
She's catching up at a 34k subs per 30 days, and the difference is 173k. You do the math

>>12964373
His 3D will probably do considerably better than the last too just because he himself is a giant meme. Will probably gather a lot of tourists just from that. Nobody watches him but everybody knows who he is. Weird dynamic.

>>12968396
>especially this thread?
It is one of the few threads that won't be clouded by your oshi preference. "Big number > Small number" is a powerful sentiment

>>12968396
Checking for trends, maybe updates to the algo, shitposting, I dunno.

>>12968301
Something that's working apparently, because she got 10k again tonight

>10,138 watching now
Peak was 40 min after midnight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKMzKHxvfgc
Making a puzzle from a screenshots for 1h30m with
>stylishnoob
>Maizumy


When's the last time we had Ars listed in back-to-back days?

>>12968489
Getting shat on as well, for stupid enough to venture here.

>>12968351
Kronii is on a break, so her growth will slow down for a bit. Her main content is pretty niche (single player puzzle game). And she has to focus on the game a lot to progress, so her zatsu is pretty weak. Her only chance to shine is by collabing with others because she doesn't have to multi-task (no need to worry about audience interactions).
Kronii will overlap IRyS eventually because her meme game is stronger than IRyS, but I don't think that will happen this year.

>>12968546
I checked the first 10k stream so yt recommended that puzzle stream and actually stayed there a bit. It's not bad imo, you can get viewer engagement if done right.

>>12968396
Eh fanartists are either just artists follow trends or hardcore fans, and this thread is fun for hardcore fans

>>12968132
How long has it been, discounting days she didn't stream at all, that pekkers didn't get top 5?

>>12968213
From top 3 to top 10, what happened to the king?

>>12968301
>>12968546
She's playing with vodka, hendy and kasen. They're fucking hilarious. Add in mayuzumi and stylishnoob and it's a pretty stacked lineup for Ars to join, and a demonstration of her personal growth because she's actually interacting and engaging instead of being a wallflower like she used to be. Also the previous Apex stream was a tournament.

>>12968761
Pekotowabotan Pubg

>>12968894
I was thinking one of the Lost Judgment stream was the answer, unexpected.

>>12968894
Nope, Pekora also played Minecraft that day to almost 27k and got in the top 5.

Since the day's over and there's nothing else to talk about. I'd like to present a hypothesis to the good anons of /#/ and would like to ask if it has any merit.
>Nijisanji having minimal crossover between fans, although it makes box-pushing very hard to do, at least has the benefit of blunting the effects of Livers graduating
>Hololive, because of how interconnected the talents are, have an easier time box-pushing but makes them susceptible to graduations
This is, I believe the prevalent thought amongst not only the anons here in /#/ but also among the greater vtubing audience. But with the data that has been presented to us recently, I've actually started to doubt the validity of this statement. Now, after thinking about it more, I have come to the conclusion that Nijisanji's compatmentalization actually brings zero benefit.
>if a niji graduates (especially a female one), IT DOES affect the company.
Take for example, Gibara and Lulu, the last two high profile graduations. Although the two of them leaving the company did not affect the other fanbases from Nijisanji directly, it did however reduce the OVERALL audience since Gibara and Lulu's fans did not migrate to the other livers. So if, say there were originally 100k Nijifans, if 5k of them were Gibara and Lulu fans exclusively then it brings the total down to 95k
>Hololive's interconnected universe actually blunts the effect of even major graduations (e.g. Coco)
Gen 4 (specifically Kanata) basically saw a rise in numbers for subs and CCV. Due to the chat interactions that they've had and with some of their audience even being self admitted tatsunokos, it's reasonable to assume that some (not all) of them migrated to the other Holo's. So with the same example as Niji. When Coco graduated, instead of losing a whole 5k from their baseline 100k audience. They basically only lost 2k. And with Holofes and other data proving that HoloJp has been able to expand their audience even more, they basically erase the deficit of Coco leaving anyway. Of course this is just me eye-balling a lot of the data presented here.

>>12966376
30s

>>12969103
Nijisanji fandom culture is too toxic. There's no point in staying if your chuuba is not in there anymore.

>>12969103
It would be good to get data on members who were especially close to graduated niji members however I never followed gibara or lulu so I don't know much of their connections.

>>12969411
Kazaki was close to Gibara, Lize was close to Lulu.

>>12969103
I think you are mixing cause and consequence. You are implying the graduation of some Niji girls impacted the other girls negatively but I assume it’s the other way around: the negative environment for some girls caused them to graduate.

>>12967611
Why are you linking your Twitter?

>>12969103
NijiJP is too late into the game to try apply what Hololive did. Their fans only care about their own oshis. Edengumi and other overseas branches seemed like they want to try and reach out to the others with major collabs and all but it doesn't seem to work out for them. So yeah, It's true, nijifans doesn't stay for others livers and this is a problem anykara would have to deal in the future because any fans lost due to graduation is another opportunity for their competitor to snatch in. Their investors won't be too happy of their performance even if they keep earning money.

>>12969617
I wasn't implying anything like that. Come on now. Not only is it hard to determine if backstage politics had anything to do with graduations but even if it were the case, assuming that the fans were not prevy about the situation then it shouldn't effect the numbers outside of what I mentioned.

>>12969103
I think it's still a valid point concerning the second part but in a different way.
>makes them susceptible to graduations
A few Holos came out and said they seriously thought about graduating as well when it was confirmed internally (Marine being one of the big ones that admitted to it).
A domino effect of graduations is what truly threatens Hololive.

>>12969774
True, although that's more an internal thing than a simple numbers comparison. I mean, succesive graduations of top livers would pretty much fuck up anyone.

>>12967611
nah

>>12968103
Don't feel bad now anon. This is an unfiltered site, expect an unfriendly response, thanks for the effort

>>12969774
Wasn't Marine just getting caught up in the mood during Coco's graduation stream? I didn't get the impression that she seriously considered graduating due to Coco leaving other than when she was overwhelmed that evening.

>>12971234
It's hard to say. Perhaps looking at the situation internaly gives a different than what we know, and that that situation>>12971234
improved once upper management realized the level of fuckup middle management had well, managed themselves into, causing Coco to graduate.