/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>12834414
ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>>12834394
Given that one of the selling points of that pc is the custom Marine system voice that's be an even greater waste.

>op image
This thread is going to go extremely poorly.

Also Splatoon seems to be numbers poison. Sultan is getting trash numbers. Where is that anon who said it would be a buff? I wanna slap him.

Oh nice, the entire gen 3 is streaming later and are lined up properly for their funnels. It's been awhile since that happened.

>>12834534
>Sultan is getting trash numbers
That's always been the case of male liver outside of kuzuha
Ib Minecraft is just event type stream

>>12834414
Yagoo looks good

>>12834534
Who said it's a buff? Nijisanji is spamming practice streams now. Practice streams =/= numbers unless it's the Splatoon kings, Ex Albio, Fuwa Minato, or Amamiya Kokoro.
>Sultan
Seems fine to me. Lower than his median but not "just switched to Valorant" levels of bleeding.

Lamy water trending with over 10k tweets

All this talk about "Sultan" and shit got me to check Ibrahim's numbers and outside Minecraft he gets numbers less than even mid tier holos. Why is he called as sultan then ? Royalty posters are retarded as well I think.

PARRA reached 1 M, the 3rd indie
while...

>>12834704
>Why is he called as sultan then ?
It's fun.

>>12834704
Hey, they're entertaining shitposts that weren't filled with malice.
>>12834698
The meme made real. Sasuga Lawson.

Some mad lad joined all the holoJP and Myth's membership to do the estimation on monthly membership for each talents

NijiEN upcoming big collab is pretty much guaranteed to be Mario Cart at this point (still no Ethyria stream for it, maybe next week?). Though I guess the logo design was already a dead giveaway.

>>12834755
JP1

>>12834704
He is called sultan because he's a fucking sultan, open your eyes... 100% pure Arabian blood

>>12834698
I'm disappointed that it's not really a water. It's a lime soda.

>>12834755
JP2

>>12834755
>>12834790
Based on what? Likes?

>>12834790
>>12834755
Total memberships or memberships gained? It looks like the latter, no way are they that low or volatile as a total.

New fan animation from the guy who made the holo myth video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyOVMk-p-Fg

>>12834755
Gamers

>>12834816
but it's acidic, just like the real thing.

>>12834755
This can't be accurate. The latest Suisei's mengen got 14k. Lamy also has around 4.5k at the end of her latest mengen so let's see if the number is accurate.

pekomiko tee tee

>>12834816
Why would they buy bottled water when they can get them from the tap?

>>12834833
Estimation on total, seems like people fluctuate based on members content

>>12834875
Konbini sell a lot of bottled water anon.

>>12834875
Because its lime water
And also because its my oshi's water

>>12834755
JP3

>>12834816
Lime huh, makes it easier to imagine when drinking

>>12834755
JP4 with Coco graduate

>>12834976
>>12834755
Shit, why the file drops

>>12834940
>usada pekora
never have I seen such bullshit

>>12834755
Without Coco's graduation

>>12834755
JP5

Korone membership stream from today has 12k views right now.

>>12834940
I have a membership for Flare, this is horseshit. Her likes on posts and her videos are twice this at the minimum.

>>12834609
he's happily married with kids

What exactly is this dude picking for numbers???

>>12834755
EN Myth

>>12835097
What in the hell are these dumbshit graphs
What fucking methodology is this guy using to get data?
Why the fuck did he fit curvy lines through everything instead of just plotting the points?
Why put everything on the same x scale?

>>12834755
What's the methodology for these charts because I refuse to believe the member numbers fluctuate this much

>>12835142
Probably the likes in members post. Which is horse shit imo

>>12835191
>>12835194
The original post on reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/HoloStatistics/comments/pv3mgi/hololive_jp_en_myth_membership_count_estimation/

>>12834755
There is no fucking way 2000 people membered to Migo, dropped it, then all enmasse membered again. Label your fucking axis. What the fuck am I looking at.

>>12835146
>Mori sub 2k
>Gura only peaking at 14-15k
Okay, I was having doubts about the previous stats but now I feel comfortable calling bullshit on this.

>>12835142
I checked my memberships against his numbers.
Community post likes, not viewers. We know that Miko said she had more than 10k members in July.

>>12835146
Really puts into perspective just how much stronger Myth is as a gen compared to even gen 3 and how weak gen 5 is for being a new gen that should've captured more of the hype.

I think the activity for members determines a lot in this graph

>>12835259
>how weak gen 5 is for being a new gen that should've captured more of the hype.
Schizos always have tells.

How are these numbers accurate? What does monthly membership represent? Like monthly gained? But these waves look so weird, especially Gura.

>12835259
We should let the Gen 5 schizo and the anti HoloEN schizo fight each other.

Numbers

>>12835225
>poll participation and likes
Okay it's total bullshit. Someone I membered to who had 4000 members within the first month gets consistently 400-500 likes on the videos.

>Someone actually thinks the graph and data is accurate.

Kek

>>12835225
>statistics based entirely on reactions and replies to membership posts plus anecdotal notes on polls

Such a hilariously bullshit metric

>>12835340
So does that mean we have the floor for memberships?

>12835259
u on this site 24/7 gen 5 schizo? cuz I do

>>12835385
>floor
Yes

>>12835349
I have never fucking seen such bullshit metric to measure anything. This is on par with the % cope.

>>12834816
have they released the art for this? Blue Fauna looks great.

>>12835423
https://www.lawson.co.jp/lab/campaign/hololive/

Discussing about membership seems pointless to me. Its all about guesstimate that uses weird metric. Unless chuuba themselves show their membership statistics take the graph and data about membership with grain of salt.

>>12835225
Complete bullshit, the chart is made up from numbers of "likes" and poll votes on membership posts. Not everyone interacts with these posts though, as we all know.

>>12834875
Anon, literally hundreds of billions of water bottles are produced each year

>>12835385
For JP you could always just use the viewership numbers right after a steam ends as a floor.

Load of horseshit, Mikochi had said she hit 10k plus members a while back, 1 month ago, the last date on the chart, she had 3.8k likes on a post. His Gura one says 12k when her likes are consistent throughout the period with polls proving that she had at least 13k. Watson hit 3.8k likes on a post from a month ago. Marine 1 month ago has a post with 6.8k likes. Sora has a steady 1.6k like per post status.
>>12835225
>leddit
of course. And the faggot even used some kind of smooth spline shit connect them all instead of just making dots which would make a lot more sense in the context of memberships which are a discrete month-by-month number, not a continuous number.

>>12835349
>>12835417
>>12835541
I figured that these are the floors, not the ceilings. Still useful.
You can say "X has at least Y members" using these charts and be factually correct.

>>12835516
Yea
Like, I'm looking at Gura's community tab rn and those peak numbers are primarily from polls for watchalong shit, so obviously that gets people more engaged than a normal like on a community post.
I mean, as a 'floor' it's an interesting thing to note, but that's it. It doesn't tell us anything more than that so while not COMPLETELY useless, isn't very good for anything else.

Indies should start playing Holo fangames and doing covers of their songs.

Free advertising for Hololive, and some tourists might stay with the indies.

>>12835225
Can someone @ this fag and tell him we have a way of looking at the actual number of views for membership only videos? Pekora having 1k and Korone having 2.5k members my ass.

I am membered to a few holos and I've never liked, commented, or participated in a poll.

Huh, Roboco is taking a week break from streaming. Apparently it's her first proper break since debut? Pretty impressive actually. Did we have some individual data in number of breaks or streak for days streaming?

https://twitter.com/robocosan/status/1458476440086020096

>>12835627
https://twitter.com/yukihanalamy/status/1458658371444166658
Lamy too. Good for them to take a break everynow and then.

>>12835385
I wouldn't even say floors because a random life update post or a meme clip in memberships won't get as much engagement as an important update, karaoke, planned content, question asked, etc. It fluctuates way too much. The trick for viewing membership live counts acts as a better floor.

>>12835590
The lack of labeling the y axis kills me. The graphs title should be "Community Post Interaction" and the data points need to be per community post, rather than whatever the hell he is doing.

>>12835225
The only way this would even be a slightly useful metric is if every single member of Hololive did a poll at their base membership tier right now. Some Holos have literally never done a poll so it's just calculated off post likes, something that often doesn't even get 1/10th the engagement polls do.

>>12835622
Easy there pal, holo games aren't a buff. Cozying up to other companies is a better idea since you might score a collab.

>>12835869
No, polls are never ever accurate. The chat trawling bots are better, nowhere near perfect, but better.

>>12835907
>holo games aren't a buff
Korone horror game says otherwise.

>>12835907
Isegye has overtook NijiKR from covering Hololive songs and claiming they were inspired by Hololive.


Uto managed to be a relatively big JP indie from leeching from Hololive.

Lamy announcement. Costume add on probably(?)

https://youtu.be/ErCYaszhbP4

Predictions anon.

>>12836054
well goodbye fumi.. Friday and Saturday holo win

So basically, Gura lost in membership count as well?

>>12836054
lamy literally just had a costume and a costume add-on recently, what the fuck is taking them so long for pekora's holy shit

>>12834823
Choco got 45 new members today. Am I supposed to believe that she, who's been around for 3+ years, just gets a 20% bump in members on a fucking random Wednesday? I hope he used ARS for this data since it is worth as much.

>>12836208
When sankisei other than Pekora and Lamy keep getting new stuff, you'd think that the problem mayyybeeeee on Pekora's side.

>>12836054
>>12836106
If it's just Outfit Add-ons then it might only get around 20k

>>12836208
Tell Pekora to stop being a bitch and pick either a casual or a chuuni outfit.

>>12835994
It's a buff for holos.

Predictions?

>>12836340

Not only for them. Just take a look at previous threads. There's a lot of indies that played it and got a fuckton more views.

>>12836377
Not as stacked as the last month one. Plus the unknown teams in that custom were more as well. So I don't think it will perform as good as the last one.

>>12836377
When is this starting? Later?

>>12836377
predictions on who would win? team 15 looks strong (that's 2 CR members right?)

>>12836377
Why are Matsuri and Towa the only Holos who get to participate here?
Homos and Choco do participate on these before

>>12836054
>Lamy
She barely manages 5-6k on her usual streams, it won't be more than 20k.

>>12836589
Why do you lie so much anon ? Her median is around 8500.

>>12836527
>Why are Matsuri and Towa the only Holos
That's good, fuck apex

>>12836527
It's a custom for legendary teams/good performers in previous customs to celebrate the anniversary of Apex customs, not just letting in any randos who played once and got mid-tier results.
The one Astel Choco and RBC played in was V Saikyou, not Hal customs.

>>12836053
>Isegye has overtook NijiKR from covering Hololive songs and claiming they were inspired by Hololive.
They only debuted as vtubers 2 and a half months ago. I don't know what the company did before though.

It's kinda funny that by taking advantage of the Ame meme and covering themselves in Hololive glory they took the market. It's so naked but I fucking love it.

>>12836377
I spotted Chii-chan and the Elf, I guess playing Apex 14 hours a day pays off. The lad in the top right corner of the image looks familiar, the one in team 5. I can't make out the kanji of his name.

>>12836700
Seems like VShojo in the early days, they constantly watch and react to holo clips

>>12836208
This, but replace "Pekora" with "Myth"

>>12836905
Myth is a weird situation, at least we heard nothing about Pekora's outfit, but Myth openly gave out the silhouette. Kiara and Mori both confirmed that their outfit is ready to go, iirc Kiara said we might know the reason in the future and will understand the delay.

>>12836589
She shits on kiara regularly

>>12836880
I'll call them honorary Holos from now on.

Let's strive for Hololive and Vshojo unity. Nijikeks not welcome.

>>12836814
Vtuber members
Team 1
>Hal
Team 2
>Naraka
Team 3
>Towa (Bora)
>Towa (male form)
Team 4
>Uruca
Team 5
>Elu
>Mahiro
>Nagao
Team 6
>Matuli
Team 7
>Lisa
>Qpi
>Ren
Team 8
>Noah
>Bobsappaim (not when playing Apex for some reason)
Team 9
>none
Team 10
>Pakael
>Kisaki Anko
>Huma Wat
Team 11
>Met
>Chigusa
>Ex Albio
Team 12
>idk
Team 13
>Kamito
>Hinano
>Kaga
Team 14
>Chihiro
Team 15
>Nqrse (not really a vtuber)
Team 16
>none
Team 17
>Meika
>Inui dono
>VGorilla
Team 19
>none
Team 20
>

>>12837080
It's probably Gura rigging. Gura finally asserted some of her leverage.

>>12837080
Gura's rigging issue probably.

>>12837080
It's going to be their "new year" outfit isn't it?

>>12836527
>>12836677
Astel has played in Hal customs before. Why he's not here, perhaps his schedule didn't allow it (he mentioned yesterday in a stream he's been invited to customs but has been too busy to accept). But he'll be in mildom's anniversary cup on Saturday.

>>12836700
NijiKR panders to Japanese and Eops.
Isegye panders to Korean and Eops.
English subbed clips
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYJ-CYvIAcI
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_GPIfuG3As ENG CC

>>12837080
If they give Gura good rigging all will be forgiven.

>>12837212
>>12837224
How many holos have rigging issue that causes some shit storm besides Gura and Anya?

>>12836054
Isn't she just going to promote her Water?

>>12837399
I don't remember anything on par with Gura's rhombus head and Anya's mask

>>12835579
>right after the stream ends
not a good metric as vod still take time to queue
i say 2-3hrs after the stream ends

>>12837488
Fauna? Those neck n head

>>12837532
that didn't cause a shitstorm like those 2. Corpo rigs are always trash so that's expected

>>12837399
mumei

>>12835579
12k and 2.5k is a massive difference. This tells me two things, redditfag's numbers are rubbish and engagement for members isn't that high.

Does Cover/Ichikara look into the young seiyuu who doesn't get a lot of work talent pools? You're guaranteed someone who has a good voice, is comfortable speaking and has decent acting skill. In Hololive I think only Matsuri and Nene fit the bill. Don't really watch Niji so I'm not sure who they got.

>>12837658
I still remember during debut everyone is already shitting on the rigging then realized it wasn't the rigger for Gura lol.

>>12837750
I don't want to get beat for roommate posting because mods delete mere references while letting 3DPD images stay up but if you know where to look you can see that certain Nijis used to be small time seiyuus as well as utaite. Even the men.

>>12836208
I still buy the theory that cover really wants her to have a cat girl costume but she doesn't want it.

>>12836377
the recent hal custom didn't break 20k, what's his link again? i didn't check the content but the same logo was there

>>12837532
In order to cause a shit storm it needs to be immediately visible even to normies. Fauna has some issues but its not "even normies think it's shit" level unlike gura and Anya

>>12837864
Yeah the rigger was posting stuff like "I've got a new daughter" and "I've completed another big project" and after what happened to Anya people literally had it put for him

Selen's Valorant collab beating Ib's splatoon 2 is not something I expected.
Bon is getting 2-3x his usual numbers too.

Where the Sultan posters at?

>>12838719
>>12834683

>>12837750
Isn't Nene ex-idolseiyuu?

>>12838719
Ib usually gets 7k+ views when he streams at night JST. He's probably lower right now because it's an unusual time for him

>>12838719
Pikamee and Hana aren't streaming

>>12838719
Just drop the Sultan thing, call him an oil boy or something

>>12835225
I haven't taken a look at all of his graphs, but the EN one is definitely incorrect. I ran my little app through all EN channels just yesterday (or the day before that) ago to check their membership floor during October since some anons were arguing whether Pomu and Baelz were "swimming in memberships". The result were
>Gura: 11,116
>Kronii: 7,333
>Ame: 5,132
>Mumei: 5,003
>Mori: 4,554
>Kiara: 4,126
>IRyS: 3,806
>Fauna: 3,598
>Baelz: 2,721
(Skipped Sana since she was taking a long break and forgot to check Ina)
And those were just floor values: the "visible" members. The actual amount should be higher since there might be members who never interacted with the stream (didn't join / upgrade membership during stream, didn't chat, didn't send SC or free monthly member message).
Simply put, that chart in the link under-reported Kiara, Mori and Ame at the very least. If they were getting 3 Holos incorrect (and missing up to thousand(s) compared to their floor), I doubt it got the rest right

>>12839430
Actually Kronii has 7.8k votes on a membership post she made last week.

Is Ame's audience night owls or spread out all over the world? She's streaming GTA at midnight and is still pulling 12k

>>12839663
Already better numbers than her last TAV stream 2 months ago too.

>>12839430
This makes me curious about members retention rate, is the stability for earning membership better than SC? Does the amount of membership effect the "baiting" for SC? I don't think holos want to rely on vod views because it's unstable unless you are someone like Pekora, Marine or Gura.

>>12838677
I mean, with the hints and whatnot the speculation is that Mumei's rigger WAS that fucker but it was pawned off at the last moment to try and salvage it and keep the name away from association with Mumei, for the sake of minimizing outrage.
I don't buy it, but that rrat was floating around.

>>12839663
Well Ame always had an inconsistent timeslot. Makes sense that her audience are more spread out than INa's or Gura's.

>>12839663
Noone is streaming right now.

>>12839663
Well, ame's Minecraft streams (late night) have always done well too, so yes she definitely has a night-owl contingent to her fanbase.

>>12839641
Indeed. I said those were just the floor values since I have no idea if there is any convenient way to check member-only contents.
I got those numbers by having the app basically crawled through the public streams' chat logs over multiple sample periods of 30 days and counted all unique members who "interacted" with the streams. I'm aware that the method might be a bit flawed and might miss some members (i.e those who never say anything, or SC during streams), but it showed that it's very unlikely for Mori, Kiara and Ame's numbers to drop as low as they were in that chart

>>12839825
Nah what he was actually refering to is Hana Flores's new avatar, which was also rigged by him

>>12839928
If playing GTA doesn't allow to earn SC, can the stream still be monetized for views?

>>12839928
Nah. Bait her to talk in JP. You will see a number of nips that would instantly show up. Nips don't talk in a mainly EOP chat unless the chuuba understands them.

>>12839993
Yes, vod views still counts towards ad & premium revenue. SC is ALWAYS a bonus. That schizo yesterday hasn't realize it that they're making more money from just streaming.

>>12839981
Did she not rig that herself? Or at least, that's what I heard...the new one, not her old one (which I know was rigged by the guy but she did touchups on it herself)

>>12839993
I believe that if you can't monetize stream, you can't make money at all from that stream

>>12839993
>Doesn't allow to earn SC
Ame never opens SC while gaming you retard
She doen't like money

What are the first real signs that a chuuba is about to make it big, at least relative to being a 2view? I'm always curious about what it must look like to see a channel transition from just being one in the crowd to actually becoming a standout in the indie scene.

>>12840413
When she gets memes that break outside of her fanbase

>>12840160
>That schizo yesterday
Which one?

>>12840413
if you see an influx of clips that actually translates to engagement. it has to be consistent though or else they will fall back to obscurity.

>>12840524
ENschizo

>>12840160
Sounds like a whole lot of Chumpedo cope
You memeshart is irrelevant and her fanbase is full of literal and figurative children who has to ask permission from mommy before they can send supers. No amount of "b-but she earns more in ad rev" cope can change that.

>>12840160
All I saw yesterday was a bunch of people try to attach their "virtues" as to why some chuubas don't have high SCs and calling other chuubas whores/exploitative at the same air. The truth is, each of these chuubas are earning money. Some of them earn more in Spons and Ads. Some more in merch and music. Some earn significantly in SCs. Some earn in ALL aspects. You can't really say that all scenarios are real for all chuubas. It's just virtue signaling and skewing data to make your argument look reasonable. In short, bait.

ENschizo appeared!

>>12840160
People put too much emphasize on SC because it's the only revenue number that we have access to.

>>12834940
>Pekora not even 1k members

Why is ENshizo a thing? What are his motives for being as such? a /jp/sie ?

>>12840777
You also know who are the chuubas that are getting spons and who are releasing chuuba initiated merch. Memberships as stated above can't be really determined. You have a floor but that's it.

>>12840703
You know...it's sea's teatime now

>>12837750
Isn't Lulu a former seiyuu or some shit?

>>12840822
He doesn't get enough (you)s back in jp so he's here to farm more (you)s

>>12840822
Never ask a schizo motives, anon

>>12840887
Former idol, and I think she's getting back into the idol game? Not too sure about that.

Since there's some talk about Hololive affecting others. Here's another example - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuT4g_b1ARM

>>12841005
She is doing modeling again and yes she is ex-idol.

>>12840694
Yeah, they all earn money. Even if they turn off SCs. VODs are passive incomes especially from livestreams. That schizo yesterday argued that they should do more SC readings because it counts as "fan interaction" and they need those money to fund merch and stuff. That was the stupidest thing I've heard yesterday.

>>12841027
Oh yeah I remember this guy, that was back when Aqua was still playing apex before the chinks ruined everything

>>12841027
You can use rpr for example as well

>>12841027
>850k subs
Lmao remember back when half of hololive didn't have over a million subs?

>Ame is building her new PC
We will see more FPS games from now on
And these is a valorant collab with Mumei schedule already
Predict her numbers this month

Any prediction for Pekora first FFXIV stream?

>>12841278
Low numbers early, maybe <25k. 25K< and infinite goodness after that.

>>12841271
>valorant collab with Mumei
Moomer done hiding huh?
split pov on fps maybe 9-11k for ame, 6-7k for mumei

>>12840160
Retards still thinks vod streams gets better revenue than 2k SC

>>12841319
I'm guessing between 30~60k but that's fair enough, couldn't compare her with asmongoloid i guess

>collab with selen hoping to gain some popularity
>selen sucks up all the viewers, including all your regulars
She's too powerful

>>12841437
Did she suck Pikamee?

>>12841343
Did Mumei play Valorant before?

>>12841465
Yes. pls

>>12841437
It doesn't seem like Selen does well in solo but she only gains high viewer in collab. Why?

>>12841271
Where is it? I don't see it in any of those girls' schedule.

>>12841511
Unironically everyone who'd normally be watching her collabmates go over to her stream instead

>>12841566
she has top-priority for everything. If you ever overlap a stream with selen she'll steal everything. She's lighting in a bottle

>>12841056
That schizo is probably Niji intern who told EN3 that SC readings is "fan interaction" and they should spam it.

Now he's seething lol

>>12841465
not sexually
>>12841437
>>12841566
Pikamee and Hana isn't streaming

>>12841511
Because she's the only one good at FPS

Time for more ff14

>>12841056
Anon. SC readings is really a form fan interaction. It's the most direct way. That's not cope. Almost all Holos do SC readings. As far as Merch fund. That is also true. Lamy already broke it down. She went on a negative one time to fund her pillow cover. Watame used her birthday SC to fund her MVs. People like Polka though who releases MVs regularly doesn't really care about SCs because she prefers memberships. She has a whole vid promoting what you can have for memberships. She also has a ton of spons. If you are saying that SCs do not have any significant factor as to what the chuuba can or cannot do, then you are practically assuming ONCE AGAIN that every circumstance is the same for everyone. It depends for every chuuba.

>>12841587
*only applies to midgets*

>>12841566
And then they moved back to their respective oshis, and Selen is left with sub 3k again. If I was her, I would do anything I can to keep those. But I don't think she has the ability to keep anyone at all.

>>12841608
oh god its starting...

>>12841608
Wrong thread, IRyStocrat. Thanks to you, though, I now know that IRyStocrats are numberfags

>>12841616
I think it applies to everyone who knows about her. She's a crazy strong streamer. She's going to rise through the roof

>>12841608
Pekora setting trends again!

>>12841608
Finally first EN plays Koroge

>>12841667
Retard. The anon is just pointing out the FF14 on her stream schedule. No need to be sassy. It's still relevant in numbers because it may or may not draw a trend. We know Pekora is playing FF14. Both will be playing JP servers

>>12841667
No this is the right thread, and I'll post anyone who puts ff14 on the schedule too just to track it

>>12841760
Here is one dude creaming about the idea of Hololive playing FF14. I think he got hard seeing how many subs Gura had. It was funny. https://youtu.be/-WpFMbkXKRg

>>12841736
And it's not a bad time slot. Friday evening / night for NA. Saturday noon for JP. We'll see if the JP crowd, outside of her JP fans, would watch her.

>>12841588
NTA, but I personally think they COULD do more in how they approach SC. Obviously not to the level that Kiara or IRyS does it if they don't have the time (which I know Mumei does not) but it's a bit frustrating to watch them constantly turn off SCs as someone wanting them to get bigger sc totals, even if they don't 'need' them.

>>12841588
Those Niji interns are only paid from the SC cuts of the girls, so of course they will try to convince the girls to whore themselves further.

>>12841471
Dunno about Valorant but I heard Mumei's great at Apex, yet when they had to play it cause A Way Out was not working she said she felt motion sickness while doing better than Baelz and Ollie.

>>12841972
Cmon Mumei. Steal Selen's viewers. Stream Apex once in a while. Hololive needs a consistent FPS chuuba. Don't care if it's Ame or Mumei.

>>12841972
Wandering into PL territory, since that's where this is gonna be headed, so I'll just leave it at that.
>>12841799
0% chance Gura touches FFXIV, unless it's because 3 other HoloEN members decide to drag her along for the ride. She doesn't like jRPGs to begin with and I don't think she's ever said anything about playing MMOs. I'm almost certain Kiara would have given it a shot of she didn't shut down the idea (probably to spite management for asking/pushing them to do it)

>>12841892
Nene has one the best SC readings. That's where you really see people use their SCs to get certain reactions from the chuuba.

>>12841799
Cool. Free advertising.

Just something interesting pop out on my notification from the virtual YouTubers subreddit.

>Nox from VirtualReal debuting on YT
Has there been any other VR members before this tried streaming on YT?

>>12842078
Oh boy I can't wait for her to get the Civia treatment

>>12842036
0% chance unless she gets roped in? So there's 50% chance then? We know how much she likes playing with the other girls. The only thing here is whether or not the group that plays often with Gura would play it too. I don't really care. Noone will main FFXIV

>>12842036
Gura mentioned in her MC stream that she played ff14 before, but she "might" not want to stream it but just play with other girls off-stream, so maybe the only chance she stream it is other girls drag her.

>>12842145
Ina might.

>>12842078
The shota dog Kendou wanted to do Youtube only but due to management I think he does both now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSXX0nqlDa4
and Karon did an English Youtube debut on a new channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wY-Uy5DrXg
She has a really sexy deep singing voice.
>>12842139
Not sure what happened with Civia but Virtuareal has collabed with main and side branches speaking Japanese, as well as world collabs, and some have English speaking streams, yet on Bilibili so who the fuck will attend since you need to answer 50 Chinese questions to even be allowed to chat.

Pekora's stream will be the deciding moment whether a ff14 arc might start.

>>12842172
Ah well that makes sense.
I'll be honest, love the game, not sure if I want to see any of the EN girls spend 40+ hours in ARR to get to HW, which is where the real good stuff starts. (ARR is like 7/10 whereas HW is 10/10)

Is there a chance FF14 could be a buff if everyone in Hololive plays it?

>>12841027
I don't really get the "Korone's game buffed this nobody!" talks. Several screenshots clearly show that they don't retain any numbers from the following streams so basically people just tune in only during the stream of that game.

>>12842313
>>12842242

>>12842078
Karon and Nox from VR Link are debuting on YT, And on VR it was Hoshimi and Kendou

>>12842233
TLDR Civia did only two streams on youtube, one of which was her graduation stream and the other one was her youtube debut. During her debut her chat was basically filled with political questions and immediately after that her manager advised her not to stream on youtube until they can get that sorted out, which is why she never streamed on youtube again until her graduation three months later.

>>12842313
Probably not? But I'm welcome to being proven wrong. The floor for getting in is a pretty big time investment, and while I'm certain a group of 4 Holomem could blow through ARR as a group in a weekish if they wanted to nolyfe it, that's a lot of time spent and I'm not sure they have that kind of time alongside their Idol reps/sponsorship stuff.
Like, I'd love if Bakatare circus did it as a group of 4, just reacting to things and having a good time, but I know Fubuki is already in Shadowbringers, so that's a wash anyways.

>>12842233
Karon has a nice singing voice. I wonder why Niji keeps landing on some good, talented people but they all ended up in <2k view hell during normal streams or some of their songs didn't make the cut. I mean, I assume they joined because of the opportunity to become big out of singing and all due to their recording studio & ties to Sony, but the no. of fans under niji is not enough to get them big big. Wouldn't be worth in the long run.

>>12842434
she actually had 3. One was a mario odyssey stream.

>>12842078
How can she access Youtube from Chinkland?

>>12842434
Nijisanji is basically in bed with the Chinese so they won't have any trouble at all. At least this will introduce VR to a bigger EOP audience. Nijisanji EOP fans actually respect power and authority.

>>12836377
easy 25k for hal doing the intros. 30 if hes lucky.

>>12842473
Too many tourists, not enough dedicated fans.
Like, with the large amount of livers they have, it's very hard to 'stand out' nowadays and really capture and KEEP a strong core beyond what edengumi managed. Why stick around with the new peeps if someone you like already exists? If you added together the averages of all the Niji livers, in certain the comparison against hololive members would be more even, but the main branch, with so many existing talents, it makes becoming a 'breakout star' difficult. Then throw in the YT algo and all sorts of voodoo nonsense and it becomes very hard to climb up even if you manage to secure a nice 2-4k following.

Reminder that we had a discord leak of one of the Myth member where one of the channel is "FF14 Project"

>EOPschizo appeared too!

>>12842612
How can a discord get leaked?

>>12842671
Like usual, the girl showed their desktop with discord open.

Kuzukek's Vampire cover

1st hour: 145k
2nd hour: 245k (+100k)
3rd hour: 515k (+270k)
4th hour: 647k (+132k)
5th hour: 740k (+93k)
6th hour: 822k (+82k)
7th hour: 890k (+68k)
8th hour: 936k (+46k)
8h20m: 948k (+12k) (600 views/min; -21%)
8h40m: 957k (+9k) (450 views/min; -25%)
9h00m: 964k (+7k) (350 views/min; -22%)
9h20m: 970k (+6k) (300 views/min; -14%)
9h40m: 976.9k (+6.9k) (345 views/min; +15%)
10h00m: 981.1k (+4.2k) (210 views/min;-39%)
10h20m: 984.5k (+3.4k) (170 views/min;-19%)
10h40m: 987.6k (+3.1k) (155 views/min;-9%)
11h00m: 990.9k (+3.3k) (165 views/min;+3%)
11h20m: 994.9k (+4.0k) (200 views/min;+17%)
11h30m: 997.0k (+2.1k) (210 views/min;+5%)


Hours to 1 million views

Kuzuha - Vampire -> 11h44hm @ 210 view/minute

Gura - Reflect -> 10h29min
Caligula -> King 11h36m

>>12842689
So who was the genius who got it leaked? And will all of HoloEN be involved?

>>12840703
>>12842618
"They"are the same person, anon...

>>12842612
Wasn't that from last year when Myth just started?
Either Omega, Ina or Mori were making their pants wet to get the FF14 perms.

>>12834940
This might be the most inaccurate chart in the history of charts.

>>12842791
Yep it was quite early after their debut.

>>12842473
She actually does ok on bilibili. She has covers (there), collabs with the older more popular VRs, and likes talking to the ENs on Twitter.
Comparing her cover performances to one of the (I'm assuming, due to being featured in several 3D concerts) top dogs, she's doing great actually.
Aza
https://space.bilibili.com/480680646/video
Karon
https://space.bilibili.com/741520/video
Second tab is to sort by highest views. He obviously wins here as he has several over 1 million but Karon comes close with 600k+.
>>12842434
From my observation not many VR watchers care about stepping on political toes, in fact some of the livers toe the line with sexual content on bilibili if clips are anything to go by (yes clipfag but I'm not learning Chinese, ever)
I am sure they have their drama (Samuel and Shiki graduating after Samuel dropping that he's dating her out of the blue) but it's not the same as Hololive's political anti drama.

>>12842791
yeah if i remember right it was from when kiara and mori played a way out

>>12842734
Ina
Definitely all of myth involved, some due being dragged rather than by their own will.
>inb4 council was debuted so Omega transformer could have his/her chunny roleplay shit on FF14. Thus why the girls from Irys and forward have overomplicated lore and some of them were nepotism hire.

>>12842877
Oh, so old project that likely never took off due to lack of interest.
Well, if a FFXIV does start... goodluck to the girl's numbers.

It would be funny if Kson and Melody's collab on Chaturbate becomes so successful, encouraging more vtubers, both EN and JP, to stream more adult contents there as well. This means that vtubers, a new subgenre of streaming that provides escapism from normal bathtub streamers, would turn into the thing that people escape from. What irony!

>>12842984
>>12842877
i got my discord leaks mixed up the "a way out" leak was this.
although the FFXIV discord leak was still a while ago i'm sure

FFXIV seems like a hard arc to trigger due to the fact that everyone has to go through hours and hours of content. Compare it to minecraft where there is no hard prerequisite of things to do before they actually have fun.

>>12842984
Good, the less number they have, the better for JP branch to realize their futile efforts in expanding. I encourage them to sabotage their numbers more.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9VqnG2Yx--wWitfHvJRe9A/videos

Lulu getting less views showing her real face than when she was under Niji...
Expected but still surprising

>>12843050
>>12842984
nevermind found the FFXIV and yeah it was from september last year
>>>/jp/26999038

>>12843093
B-but talent is more important than brand!

Huh, Interesting. Kuzuha has a a Staff twitter account now, much like some JP musicians that signed to a label. I guess he's now getting serious about making music.
https://twitter.com/kuzuha_staff

>>12843093
>Lulu
who?

>>12843093
holy shit she's like an 8/10, i'd tap that anyday.

>>12843169
he got signed with Universal Music. Which is weird because I thought they're under Sony. He's gonna release a mini album as well

>>12843169
Next year, Kuzuha is going to be in the Billboard for sure.

>>12843169
He's releasing an album next week but reassured everyone that he'll continue streaming as usual (Splatoon today)

>>12843196
First get his original to 1 million rumao.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZcZ2olie0w
Another Evil God Koronye

>>12843223
*next year

>>12843197
Anykara has been abandoned by their Sony Overlords. Wonder if they felt their investment being wasted.

>>12843236
She got the 'funny' ending first, rip her numbers.

>>12843169
Because he is assigned to a label, Universal, same people who do Rain Drops and Deron as well as his utaite friend Soraru
>>12843223
>next week
The tweet clearly says March 9.

>>12843253
>abandoned by their Sony Overlords
>meanwhile Tsukino Mito will be doing her solo event next week
Keep schizoing

>>12843257 (me)
Not deleting this, leaving it up for shame's sake. TOWA got the funny ending first, so rip Towa's numbers.

>>12843093
Look how happy she is
She can do what ever she want now
Nice move leave that black company

Would you fuckers stop roommate posting when she doesn't even stream with an avatar anymore?

>>12843197
i think mito is the only one with sony, every other niji album is with other label

>>12843327
Report it if you care so much

>>12843197
Nijis got signed into several labels actually, not just Universal and Sony. I wonder if this approach is better than Holo (under Cover label) or not.

>>12843282
kek, how unfortunate

>>12843197
Hmmm, so enlighten me, why does Anykara rely on music labels for their talent's music? Even a company as incompetent as Cover can distribute their music independently with degree of success comparable to conventional music labels, what's stopping anykara?

>>12843253
Sony made Mito an entire album and a new costume and is having a concert with it soon. At least open a wiki before posting.

>>12843424
Why not? They do all the professional stuff for them. NBC, Universal, Virgin records, Lantis, and Sony. Suisei's clawing up to victory is a kneel worthy story but why the hell does she need to go through all that for her album when people whos job it is to produce music can do it for them?

>>12843519
Profit and creative control

>>12843424
Different focuses. Anycolor opted to focus on their in-house tech and as such outsourced their music production pipeline for CDs etc.
Cover initially did the same with Sora, but looked at the situation and said 'Nah'. That's why I assume they started INNK music, an attempt to instead take the process into their own hands so they wouldn't get fucked like they did with Sora's deal, and it's now paying dividends, even if it was a rocky start.

>>12843519
>why the hell does she need to go through all that
I can think of two things: the cut they take and the “editorial control” they exercise.

It’s a tradeoff.

>>12843519
Pretty sure Cover has people doing the music jobs for Suisei, she doesn't need a label to reach her current success. Plus, Cover and Suisei gets better cuts anyway without being signed to a label.

>>12843093
imagine if Cover is able to get Lulu and Gibara...

>>12843519
Well first of all, those things don't translate to sales, evidenced by the sales ranking the saleanon posted the other day, and the labels demand ungodly amounts of cut from the profit.

>>12843417
>doing alternative ending first
Twapi...

>>12843093
Expected. Its the same shit with Kson. People thinking that any Holo or Niji can just leave and their fanbase will just follow them fail to grasp that at it's best, Vtubing is more than just a streamer hiding behind a cute anime avatar. Coco is not just Kson nor is she just her dragon avatar. She's the combination of both. The moment Coco graduated, her story pretty much ended and her fans got their ending. Sure it may not have been the ending they were hoping for but it's still an ending. Once she restarted, she doesn't get to keep all of her fans when she was Coco. Same goes for Lulu.

>>12843519
Well, suisei and watame can get access to good producers and mixers without a label.

>>12843607
This. It's all about the journey and group narrative, not some solo streamer story.

>>12843623
This is due to their hard work, and Cover helping facilitiate contact. It's not been an easy process, and up until Ghost was released it looked like Suisei had a real issue of getting all the pieces in place to regularly release be music. Of course, she won't have that issue now, and Cover also gains in that they also get in contact with these people if any of the other talents want to work on his sorta thing.

seriously, where can i buy that shirt?

>>12843562
Still, they would be earning less signing from a label than if they did music by themselves. How are they earning money from the AR tech anyway? Do weekly skits with semi okay views?

Prediction anon. Suisei playing korosan game

https://youtu.be/PZcZ2olie0w

The FFXIV debuff arc would be interesting numberswise.

>>12843698
You can't, it's not for sale

>>12843729
35k+ ez

>>12843732
If Pekora's ffiv stream 40k or lower I don't think an arc will trigger.

Towas not even trying to hide she's seen it before

>>12843732
Maybe it'll the old Ark addicts's new game.

>>12843729
Eh, let's take a look at the status of funneling...
Towa is gonna finish before Suisei starts, and there are no major streams prior to Suisei. Only overlap is with PolDen and Nene freetalk.
Imo, 25k, maybe she breaks 30k if she drags it out.

>>12843783
I really hope it becomes a thing, there's so many hololive fans playing that game.

Too many streams are overlapping today.
You all say FFXIV is a debuff game so i'll just expect a 25k-30k from Pekora

Suisei: 35k (she starts too early)
Marine: 25k
Noel : 20k

What are the contenders for Top1 on Niji side?

>>12843824
If it hits 60k+ you can bet every holo will drop their schedule and probably group up for their playthrough by next week. Also I just realized Pekora is the only one in her timeslot so the numbers might be high.

>>12843607
Well at least k-on keep her gachikois.

Is "major labels" bad a new cope?

>>12843868
60k is freaking high. Can Peko get that?
I thought y'all said this will be a debuff game?

https://youtu.be/VwpuHkTWccQ
https://www.shop.post.japanpost.jp/shop/pages/hololive_nenga.aspx/

>>12843890
If she can get to a point where other players can interact with her maybe. I doubt it too though.

>>12843883
Nah, just some Anons wondering why Hololive hasn't partnered with a major label (they did, with Sora and Victor music).
It's a trade-off, and Cover has pivoted from a tech company to an 'entertainment' company, so bringing in people to help facilitate these sorts of things was clearly one of their hiring goals when they started their hiring blitz.

>>12843883
I am the one who asked about why Suisei didn't just sign under a label and fuck off it isn't a cope, I was asking genuinely.

>>12843890
that's why it is a hard arc to trigger, If Pekora just gets a quick 30k for this game, I don't think anyone else would try it unless if they get sponsored to do so.

>>12843937
Maybe she still has PTSD from being in Inonaka Music.

>>12843943
Yea. All the girls are, to an extent, numberfags. No one's nearly as shameless about as Usada "I have vnuma on my most visited sites" Pekora, but it's part of their job to care about the numbers longterm.

>>12843859
>FFXIV is a debuff game
I don't think so. The new expansion is coming out so there's hype behind it. And I've seen audiences bear to watch ARR again while assuring a streamer that it gets better

>>12843890
Kinda tricky, the first hours of FFXIV is rather boring, so Peko really need to flex her comedian skill to keep the viewers engaged. Also some shenanigans like what asmongold experienced can help increase viewers.

>>12843859
Nah, the Anons (including myself) hmtbat say the start is slow mean just that. It's much better now than it was before they streamlined the 1-50 experience though. Also yea, unless Pekora pulls amazing numbers, this is likely a one-and-done deal.

>>12844018
So we will know if this game is really a debuff or buff on Peko's Stream. (I'll consider it a buff if she gets 35k or more)


Pekora's floor is 22k (unless she plays Shin-chan levels of debuff)

>>12843868
I’ll kneel if she gets 60k thats asmongold tier

>>12844054
She can cheat and make the first hours a totsu stream where Miko calls in but that might not sit well with SE.

>>12844090
What was asmongold's numbers in his first ffxiv stream?

>>12844104
200k

>>12841799
LOL

That is pretty much how everybody who isn't familiar with vtubers reacts to Gura's sub count. Just "Holy shit, what the fuck"

Evil God Korone gameplay numbers updating:

>Pekora:
57,600
>Marine
48,723
>Subaru:
44,011
>Miko:
42,461
>Okayu:
35,697
>Mio
29,501
>Rushia:
27,090
>Korone:
26894 (Overlapping among us collab)
>Shion
21,680
>Towa
13,132
>Roboco:
5,872

will they restock?

Okay, which one of you fuckers took the kneelposting image and used it as bait? I applaud you by also want to punch you in the face.

>>12844131
Towa wtf.

So there's many twitter posts reposted here from companies that their collab products with hololive are either sold out, didn't meet the massive demands, and/or their website crashed. Are these things also common in nijisanji? i'm asking cuz noone ever posted something like those for the niji side in these threads.

>>12844137
You have to get one from scalpers now.

>>12844137
Highly likely, just like Suisei's concert.

>>12842712
>8 minutes
oh nyo nyo nyo...

>>12844165
The buff is wearing off and Towa picked a timeslot too early for most salarymen. They're still at work for another hour or two.

>>12844167
Not that I've seen posted here, but you also have to understand that many of the things we're seeing now were worked on last year, before Hololive really cemented itself as both an overseas AND domestic powerhouse. The Anons who shitpost about how Hololive has no domestic presence weren't wrong....a year and a half ago, but that's changed. Oh has that changed, and with that the demand has also changed to be far greater than cover or the companies they're working with expected.

>>12844176
>scalpers
i barely managed to save up enough money from my 3rd world salary, no fucking way i can afford it now

>>12844219
Towa should've just put her timeslot near noel's. 20k would've been possible

>>12844219
>Twice her usual numbers
>Wearing off
Based retard

>>12844127
More like everybody outside of the people in this shithole who come up with ever more convoluted copes to convince themselves than a million subs is no big deal

>>12843197
He did? Oh my. If Kuzuha was more known in the west the vtweeters would be flipping out right now. Kuzuha has no singing talent at all and yet he is signed to a big record label. Talk about "being made" and not earning your way through hard work.

>>12844255
She has Hal's custom today no?

>>12844219

Nah, she could have got more. But she did the best ending first and then stream peaked too early.

>>12844231
nta but that reminds me, what happened to the sanrio collab? They announced it last year and now it's already November and there's still no sign of it whatsoever.

>>12844264
Exaggeration. Towa is comfortably in the 8-10k range for most streams so it's barely a 50% boost at best. Mio got quadruple her usual CCV

>>12844273

yep she has

>>12844272
Is that even a thing they care about? Himawari is signed to a record label and have you fucking heard her?

Myth or Treat nearly at 2m already.

>>12844305
That's why we call you based retard

>>12844294
Sometimes things get cancelled due to timeframes not lining up. It's hard to say since we don't have any idea what's going on behind the scenes. The Donki collab has been in the works for a while as well, and it's just now that we're seeing the results. Unless there's a formal cancellation like with the Eva collab, I'm going to assume it's winding its way through some corporate red-tape somewhere.

>>12844305
No, she's not. Her last 10k+ stream was a karaoke stream,28 days ago.

>>12844305
Her median is in 5-6k range.

>>12844272
That is a bit harsh. I wouldn't say he has no singing talent. He can sound good with certain things but yeah, he isn't great to say the least, lol.

>>12844305
>Comfortably in the 8-10k
I start to think schizos in this thread actually never watch streams or check holostats...etc.
They're blind and they're all thread only shitposters

>>12844468
Welcome to /#/

>>12843883
Music labels are subject to controversy and public relations problems since before vtubers were even a thing.
It got so bad at one point that their organization (the RIAA, representing Sony, Universal, BMG among others) became the internet boogeyman for quite a period of time.
Maybe it’s a generational thing (with younger people not being privy of that) but one of the reasons the word “indie” is associated of “the good guys” and “signed artist” associated with “sellout” (in the musical context) is exactly that reputation the labels built for themselves.

>>12844468
How new?

>>12844272
>small time utaites trying to get noticed and vtweeters after Kuzuha gets signed to a record deal
https://youtu.be/9E62iA6KCIQ

Pekora waiting room.

>>12843883
It is bad

Unless you want Hololive karaoke permissions to be an even bigger cluster fuck than they already are. Besides, with how successful Suisei's album was who needs a damn record label anyway?

>>12844346
>Unless there's a formal cancellation like with the Eva collab
wait, when did it get formally canceled?

2 guys casually drops 49800 yen on nene's stream. It's incredible how much nene inclined, i'm so fucking happy.

>>12844580
Yep. It was time sensitive, meant to be done by the time the 4.0 came out.

>>12844374
Joe is a lot better

>>12844558
Very empty timeslot too, besidess Matsuri's apex.

>>12844558
60k is achievable..

>>12844603
b-but there's this one anon keep claiming that gen5 is failure gen
oh no, /vt lied to me again? How could this be

>>12844580
It was formally cancelled on September 17th? by King Records, who stated it was cancelled due to 'unforseen circumstances'

>Another sponsor for HoloEN
https://twitter.com/ourokronii/status/1458741864375336961

nijibros...

>Doing the good ending first
NOOOOO FUCK
THE NUMBERS SUICHAN

>>12844819
I'm so freaking proud of my wife!

>>12844819
Yup, the Blue Archive streams are sponsored as people thought. Apparently this is all KR companies coming to Holo to advertise. Seems they want to ride on, or perhaps mutually benefit from Hololive's increase in popularity via these sponsorships. I don't know if it's management or the girls who planned this but they're really taking advantage of it, especially Bae.

Council meeting at odd hour, Sana channel, number prediction?
https://youtu.be/7TqZikWRy8I

>>12844819
Kronii's name is very similar to Axia Krone a NijiJP member plus they look quite similar which means they are related. Hence kronii is a honorary niji. We can't stop winning nijibros.

>>12844864
Rip numbers.
Not breaking 30k for sure then.

>>12844911
she was so close to hitting 20k too.

>>12844896
25k

>>12844896
Sub 20k. Santa's channel is now algo cursed, much like Kiara's was for a period of time. It's gonna take a lot of work from her to dig herself back into the good graces of the algo, and the hour doesn't help either.

>>12844877
Hololive is going through the same boom in KR as it did in the anglosphere a year ago. If Cover is smart they have a small KR branch in the works

>>12844926
??

>>12844903
Don't associate my dear wife with nijis

>>12844911
>>12844864
I'm so disappointed. 25k? Suisei if she done it right could've got 35k

>>12844896
>(EU)Shit timezone

>>12844946
oh wait nvm she already did, talk about bad luck though.

So Choco getting a new outfit it seems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uteeonfRAAg

>>12844896
>Council trying to boost Sana back up after her massive fuck up
Won't work. Sana is Mel tier for life now.

>>12845020
Getcha that 10mil.
The definitive version of the song now, just like Towa's Error.

>>12844819
>Kronii & Bae took all the sponsors from other council members
Mumei... Fauna... Sana...Sana...Sana...

>>12845067
Interesting to see that Kronii and Bae has the KR sponsorships.

>>12845067
Why would sponsors pick vtubers who never stream to shill their products?

>>12845067
Mumei is also part of the Blue Archive sponsorship you ninny.
>>12845019
Are you sure it's not just an l2d 2.0?

>>12845067
>Kronii
Understandable
>Bae
How? Why sponsors choose her but not Mumei or Fauna?

>>12845020
The first vtuber cover that exceeds original reaching 10M views?

>>12845067
Could Mumei be another one? Her schedule has it https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1457815313265750016/
>>12845121
I don't know if I'd call it for certain, her's is 2 days after. Could just be a regular stream though I doubt it.

>>12845121
Yea it might just be 2.0.

>>12845141
Maybe

>>12845132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wNSFmqhQsU
No

>>12845164
>both suisei
based

>>12845132
btw, ochame kinou does not have official original video on YT .

>>12844255
Towa is not know for maximising her numbers, she's not as bad as risu but she is pretty bad at advertising , but she normally just picks random times and tweets out her waiting room with less than 1 hours notice.

>>12845164
Well, original does not have official full version.

>>12844272
Honest question for an ignorant person. Do labels see singing talent as priority or their ability to sell hundreds of albums?

>>12845125
>Why sponsors choose her but not Mumei or Fauna
Probably because she is good at what she does. Did you not watch the Eternal Return shill stream? Bae actually took time to play the game in advance so she wasn't clueless when talking about it. Spent time talking about the game and the mechanics and overall just sounded like a great advertiser for the game.

>>12845100
>And people said KR market doesn't matter

>>12845230
Well obviously the almighty dollar rules over all. Its simply a coincidence that good singers sell more albums than bad singers. However, if you are a bad singer that can sell albums then talent isn't necessary. So yes, they signed Kuzuha because he will be able to sell albums, not because he is talented. Talent is a bonus but not a requirement.

>>12845125
>How? Why sponsors choose her but not Mumei or Fauna?

Maybe she was not chosen, but Cover decided to add her as a package deal. It happens a lot even in HoloJP, with a low tier member getting sponsored together with someone Marine or Pekora.

See the Donki Song who has Pekora, Marine, Shion, and Mel.

Bae is the hardest worker in Council after all, so it might be a reward by Cover.

Suisei now has 3 10M songs on her main channel (new record), with 2 more getting close. The only other holos with multiple 10M songs on their main channels are Mori and Gura (2 each).

>>12844504
What is a sellout in musical context?

>>12845232
Rat is seizing the opportunity she was given, putting her all into it. Rest of HoloEN should take a page from her book.

>>12845311
Benefit of hiring a former 2view who has never really made it as a content creator before..

>>12845299
kneeling to labels and catering to normalfag audience's music tastes.

>>12845269
Hololive official had two songs.

>>12845311
The avatar of chaos is the more organized member of council, heh.

>>12845311
Rat's hardwork is growing in me. Hope she hits huge soon.

>>12845268
Makes me wonder what sponsorships Fauna/Sana got since Cover likes spreading sponsorships around.

Wait, today winner should be Hal right? Hal custom usually bring very high number for him

>>12845328
What's Ame's excuse then

>>12845386
Those two are probably the best gamers in Council (low bar, but still) so maybe a non-gacha that actually uses gaming skill? Something like Eternal Return would actually fits Fauna moba background better, though I have absolutely no idea what's good for Sana

>>12845388
Depends. Even his last custom which features rpr/gen and a whole lot of other pred players got only 35k and was beatable by the OKFAMS collab. This one could be around the ~25k mark but is in the realm of pekora's domain

>>12845388
Pekora's 1st ff14 stream.

Pekora's 1 hour waiting room is about to hit 5k.

>>12845269
Yep, and Mori has 4 that are within striking distance of 10M in the near future (Red, Off with Their Heads, Live Again, and the Roki cover).

Suisei and Mori are too strong.

>>12845391
The La Creatividad meme got to her head.

>>12845391
Tummy hort

>>12845391
Too jaded.

Who the fuck is Marine collabing with?