/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Feels kinda weird that I don't want my oshi to play my favorite game but fuck me it's such an awful streaming game.

>>12798949
As someone who does not play video games, what’s the big whoop about FFXIV. It seems like every Holomem and Holofan is excited for this game and to see it played can someone fill me in I am genuinely curious

>>12798949
The Chinese will join for sure.

>>12799094
what

Ahh yes, Final Fantasy 4.0.

>>12799087
It's just a solid game that doesn't require a giant time sink.

>>12798949
I'm not a groomer.

FF14 is probably one of, if not my favorite game but my oshi would hate it

>>12799087
google FFXIV 2010 kek

>>12799010
Its a great reaction game the first time through and if they did community nights and pulled community members for instanced content it could be good but that's taking a big risk.

>>12799087
Long story short its blown up recently since World of Warcraft finally hit the breaking point with fan dissatisfaction and so all of its player jumped ship. On top of that 14 is basically a good mainline Final Fantasy game in MMO format. It also has good system in place so that most content will have people doing it forever so you can get a good experience while leveling. It also helps that the main story content is easy and the rest of the party can carry a streamer through it.

So big viewer numbers, tons of clip worthy reaction content with a good story, and its not a pain to level through old content. So its streamer gold

>>12799094
China has their own separate servers

>>12798949
I cannot get into Final Fantasy for the life of me. I just can't get myself to give a shit about it. I hope they like it though

>>12799094
If any Hololive member plays XIV and gets messed with on-stream, the offenders will get banned within hours at most. Especially on the JP servers.
Square Enix has been policing the streams of the big WoW-refugee Twitch streamers personally and doesn't take well to anyone making the community look bad in large streams.

>>12799087
FFXIV is just really popular right now, having had a boost from from it's main competitor (WoW) shitting itself at literally every possible opportunity and the next expansion that's finishes off a ten-year storyline coming out at the start of december.
HoloEn is confirmed to have permissions for it and it is believed that their producers want to make it a big thing.
It's kind of controversial from a viewer perspective because it takes a really long time of dedicated play to get to the actual good parts of the game; it's kind of the epitome of "it gets good 40 hours in"

>>12798949
Anyone know what server she's on so I can spam racial slurs?

>>12799477
See
>>12799347

>>12799477
>>12799348

>>12799548
I'm bitcoin rich, I can just keep making new accounts.

>>12799348
Yeah, there were people in the ffxiv general that got banned for harassing streamers by blocking NPCs and their view with large mounts and killing all the mobs they need for quests. Persistently following someone and/or PMing them is also bannable if the person being stalked has proof that they have tried to ask them to stop and they didn't.

>>12799558
Just make a character on each of the JP servers and spam at people doing the SHB MSQ last I heard she finished up The greatwood so go to the zones after that.

>>12798949
Not even for my oshi would I play this boring game

Does anyone know what time Pekora is having that FFXIV radio talk show for tomorrow at PST?

I've watched my oshi play it for years though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU_nCvEq_Y4&t=5751s

>(Kiara responding to chat comment)
>Final Fantasy XIV? Uh, yes, I mean… that’s kind of been like in the talks since the very beginning. Uhm… I don’t know if it’d really be a big thing in Hololive English, to be honest though… why, I like the game and you know Ina also likes the game and all that… I feel like, uhm, not everyone is that interested in it in Hololive English, and I don’t blame them, it’s not everyone’s kind of game.

>So, some people said they would participate but they don’t want to stream it… I don’t know, it feels like… management, SOMEONE from management [tl note: fuck off, Omegatranny] wants to push… wants to see us play it, and wants it to be like kind of our thing, but uhm… not everyone is quite into it... which is okay, understandable, I’m also not into all kinds of games.

>And I see how it can be very difficult to stream MMORPGs. First of all, I was asking like, okay if we do this, are we start from like level one and grind ourselves up, or are we gonna get like one of those max level thingies, and then work from there? Because, if it’s like, almost all of them (are) beginners at FFXIV, I feel like it makes no sense to give everyone max level immediately, because they will miss the whole story and they will not understand how the game works, and once you’re max level you’re like, what’s your purpose, you’re gonna be doing dungeons n’ shit. But you don’t even know how the game works, and you miss like the whole point of the game.

>But the other way around, if you start from level one, then the whole game can feel very grindy, especially for people who don’t play MMORPGs in general, for people who don’t even like MMORPGs or have no experience with it, just getting from level one to level sixty, and then onwards from that. I did that before in FFXIV […], but as much as I personally enjoyed it because I love MMORPGs, it took definetly a lot of time, and it definetly was grindy. They have great story too, but MMORPGs are grindy, so… I really don’t see how most of Hololive English would enjoy it, unless you’re an MMORPG addict, like me and Ina.

>And not only how the members would enjoy it, but how it would be streamed? And it’s quite the commitment, because you gotta put a lot of time into that if you want to get somewhere with it. And the girls just don’t have that much time, to invest into something that they’re not even that passionate about. I don’t know… there’s not much motivation, currently. I wouldn’t mind revisiting it, but I don’t know about making it into a whole thing, like a series. But if you don’t make it into a whole series, what sense does it make, though? Start an MMORGP, play it for one stream or two streams and that’s it, personally to me that doesn’t even make sense…
>(Kiara continues to talk about her personal experiences with XIV)

>>12802805
>the virgin jololive:
>ughh management is forcing us to play and the game is boring, we don't even know what to do like how do you even stream a MMO...

>the stacy vshojo:
>makes the largest FC on their server, uses the opportunity to interact with their community by organizing fun events like big glamour contests and running raids and dungeons with viewers even off stream, game doesn't overstay its welcome and everybody has a good time

>>12804121
nobody cares about vwhorejo nigger

Jesus fuck not this shit.

MMORPGs are fucking boring to watch and I have no idea why would anyone want this

>>12804121
That model makes gura loook like a masterpiece
Is that the standard twitchiggers stoop down to?

>>12804613
The standards on twitch are pretty low in every possible way. Indies are extremely unfunny and VShoujos just talk about sucking dick all day

My oshi has been logging on to FFXIV recently

All MMO's are fucking awful but I'm happy they got the sponsorship

>>12804363
get dunked on holocuck, enjoy watching your boring whores run around gridania for an hour pretending to be interested in quest text before they quietly uninstall the game

>>12804910
Nobody cares about your whores or your dead game genre.

>>12804121
holy shit that model is ugly, thanks for reminding me to stay tf away from Vshitjo

>>12798949
30k peak players in steam.Why would anyone play this dead garbage

>>12802805
>But the other way around, if you start from level one, then the whole game can feel very grindy, especially for people who don’t play MMORPGs in general, for people who don’t even like MMORPGs or have no experience with it, just getting from level one to level sixty, and then onwards from that. I did that before in FFXIV […], but as much as I personally enjoyed it because I love MMORPGs, it took definetly a lot of time, and it definetly was grindy.

I can't speak for the rest of what she's said, but Kiara is absolutely full of shit right here - the MSQs (main story quests) have been streamlined to the point where they dump enough XP on you that you can easily level your first/primary combat class from lvl 1 all the way up to lvl 80 with next to no grind.

>>12805250
>30k peak players in steam. Why would anyone play this dead garbage

steamcharts and the like don't account for people not using steam and playing it straight from SE's own launcher.

>>12805324
So?Many people play warframe and poe without steam, games still have way more numbers than this.

>>12805291
Just doing the quests is the grind, dummy

FFXIV endgame in a nutshell:
>throw your gear in the trash every 6 months as the new raid comes out
>hope your party knows wtf they're doing because one mistake from anyone will most likely wipe the raid
>possible to do ALL story content through free login campaigns that occasionally arrive
>redundant recycled content ad nauseam

no reason to sub to MMO trash

>>12805375
maybe it has a less retarded fanbase?

>>12805291
No she's right about the principle of it.
Going through all the MSQ, yes even the "streamlined" version, would still take multiple dozen hours, and it's simply just not a good trade from a "cost/benefit" perspective.

- "Someone" (yeah, a real mystery...) in management really wants to push them to start playing XIV, or even make it their "main game".... WHY? For what godfucking reason is "someone" trying to force this shit?
(and inb4: squenix sponsorships and perms! Yeah then just do the few mandatory shill streams to get it over with and drop it, like it's most likely going to happen)
- the talents themselves aren't really all that jazzed about it. We've only heard one, Irys, on stream be something like actually hyped about it (and most likely, poor girl just doesn't yet know what she's getting into), so again, why force this shit? If they wanna play it, they will on their own, if they don't, they won't. No need to make this into a big "official" thing (see also, discord leaks with the "ffxiv project" channel) that only puts unnecessary pressure on them.
- and even then, okay let's say you got your wish. All the girls start playing XIV... what now? What have you actually achieved, what are you actually subjecting them (the girls, and the audience) to? 11 talents who'll stream nothing more than all just going through the same 100+ hour MSQ all the time? People here already complain about longrunning JRPG streams and how they're boredom and audience killers, it would just be that, but times ten worse.

Again, I'm not "against" them playing XIV (played it myself), or any other MMO - IF they want it naturally, sure, let them do what they want, without pressure. I'm just highly skeptical of this stupid big "project" that apparently "someone" wants this to become.

>>12799316
What is a VPN?

>>12798949
is that fubuki did they put her in the game?

>>12802805
>and you know Ina also likes the game
haha no

>>12798949
FFXIV is really a hard game to stream without putting the hours and most of the girls don't want to do the job.
Even Ina won't stream it because she knows how hard it could be to do a good stream.

i enjoy ff14 and i hope everyone else can too, but for real - it's a garbage streaming game
unless you had 8 chuubas working on progression content or something it's really just not going to be entertaining
>but their reactions to story moments!
come the fuck on mates really?

>>12809197
If they enjoyed the game personally and played it in their own free time but streamed 8 man prog collabs or community events that would be kinda awesome. Dont think that many of them play it seriously though

>>12809197
>unless you had 8 chuubas working on progression content
now this would be some tasty kino

I'm not paying money to go back to watching mouth breathers get rekt by mechanics that have been getting reused since ARR. Fucking ridiculous how XIV has become more stagnant than World of Warcrat when WoW is almost ten years older than it. At least the sex offenders over at Blizzard are willing to fuck up in new ways. SE keeps bringing the same old shit out but every new expansion there's less of it. There used to be three dungeons per patch but now you're lucky if there's one. The only thing they haven't gotten lazy with is adding more ways for people to give them money. You'd think it was a Nexon game with how thick the cash shop is now.

>>12798949
My oshi is already a double Legend player though.

>>12809197
>Ame gets to the Bloody Banquet
>”Man this Tededji needs to get julienne’d already”
>scene happens
>”Nice, take that you smug little shit”

>>12809855
>These FUCKING LALAS are hoarding all the money! KILLEM

Why can't Kiara and the rest of Hololive just meet half way and at least stream the Endwalker storyline? That thing has a ton of hype that even fucking normies know about it and the wowfugees flooding the game.

I know that Nijisanji will be streaming the game when the Endwalker expansioin goes live.

>>12810365
pekors is streaming it tomorrow

If any of Holos really want to play that badly, good for them, but EN is kind of fucked just from the server situation.

>unless crazy shit goes on in background, Mori, IRyS, and the Aussies are pretty much going to have to pray they can get on Tonberry

Also if I were them, I’d do the obligatory opening stream in ARR and then not stream the game until just before HW: outside of the banquet, most people want to see reactions for scenes that occur in the later expansions. Plus I wouldn’t need to be reminded how bad the ARR dub is in certain parts.

>>12798949
How much longer until they actually start playing it?

>>12810401
I thought it was just some interview tomorrow?

>>12810634
>明日はFF14初プレイしてみるぺこ

Imagine HoloEN going for Triple Legend

>>12799348
no fun allowed

>>12808104
>>12607249

>>12810662
>Kronii GWAKs when realizing messing up Limit Cut or Wormhole

>>12810662
Barring the obvious two, which EN would be best at the game?

>>12810814
crunchyrollhime

>Final Fantasy
Yawn...

>>12810814
Kronii would absolutely spend time looking up her ideal rotations (even if she leans towards being a Bard main) only to realize that doesn’t matter during leveling.

But in reality whoever stands up a tank first would be the best player.

>>12810365
Why should they at all?

Honestly, I don't understand the external push to get them to play this game. Sure, I would understand if it's just about some Squenix sponsorships, then get the few singular mandated shill streams over and be done with it. But this insistence that ALL girls should invest a substantial part of their time into this game, fuck everything else, whether they want it or not, and subject the audience to a dozen streamers all going through the same long MSQ (and whatever xivtrannies tell themselves, besides a few hype moments it's mostly an absolute snoozefest for long stretches in between) is just baffling.

Here's a better idea. Just have the few girls that actually WANT to play it stream it (and for however long or short they want, and not force them to do a mandatory activity out of it), and leave the rest of them in peace.
(The simple fact that the overwhelming majority of them isn't exactly chomping at the bit to play this game should clue you in how little they really think of it).

>FFXIV will eventually replace Apex
oh god

>>12811217
To be fair, FFXIV is SE highest grossing game at the moment and it would be foolish for the company not to get people to shill the game.

>>12810814
Bae could be a Dancer considering how random the rotation could be at time.

Fauna, WHM, no doubt, would get upset when Stone/Aero get replaced.

Mumei, Botanist

Mori, self-explanatory, but maybe DRK as well if she has Edda’s weapon.

Kiara, SMN obviously

Gura, DRG just for a trident glam

Ame, MCH just because the power of gun

>>12808270
No, she's been a main character for the entirety of the game's lifespan

>>12805678
This. It was unironically at its peak with the original launch.

>>12811457
wow thats really cool good for her!

>>12811557
I'm talking about Y'shtola

They will all buy the boost, not know how any of their classes work and just rush to endwalker story
Why is anyone excited for this

>>12811739
If they don't know anything about the story, their reactions are gonna be shit. What's the point of that? They gotta play through the game.

>>12812023
They can also not play the game at all, if they don't actually want to.

>>12811631
gesundheit

>>12811739
They don’t have to rush to EW; look at all the former WoW personalities getting a second wind by reacting to older story content.

Only mad men like Sakaguchi actually bum rush all the story content within a month.

>>12798949
>FFXIV

Do you mean the critically acclaimed MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV? With an expanded free trial which you can play through the entirety of A Realm Reborn and the award winning Heavensward expansion up to level 60 for free with no restrictions on playtime?

>>12798949
Fubuki seems to be playing it in her free time, she talked how she should be able to clear ShB before new expac. Last time she posted her character it was from Qitana I believe.

>>12817249
Yeah when she was watching the live letter she kind of flinched when Gra’ha showed up, probably realizing she inadvertently spoiled herself on something tied to the ShB story.

her singing the Ratikka theme was pretty funny

>>12817466
She posted on twitter about how she already got spoiled on some parts of ShB, I mean it's pretty much impossible not to be spoiled about G'raha if you follow ffxiv news even a tiny bit.

>>12798949
maybe

https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1458459849356840963
Pekora will be playing it as the 2nd holo on stream

>>12822272
looks like the squenix cheque has cleared, peko

>Ina the TEA/Savage clearing raider

paired with

>3 Fucking Morons who Can't KILL THE ONE INFERNAL NAIL on Ifrit Story

>>12822342
>The real reason Ina doesn't want to play FF14 with the others on stream is because she will enter full alpha bitch leader mode

>>12822488
>Locked far away inside of FFXIV is yandere hikkiNEET Ina

>>12810365
That'd be great for the few who already played the story so far (Ina, Fubuki once she catches up, maybe Kiara?), but it'd be an awful choice to stream Endwalker's story without knowing anything that led up to it. They'd have no idea what's going on and wouldn't care about any of the characters.
It'd be great if some of them give it a try from the start, I'd love to see their reactions to some big moments, but only if they actually enjoy it enough to want to stream the story.

> holy shit that model is ugly, thanks for reminding me to stay tf away from Vshitjo
> Nobody cares about your whores or your dead game genre.
> nobody cares about vwhorejo nigger

>>12824911
cope seethe and dilate

>>12805250
Barry why are you here

>>12799087
>what’s the big whoop about FFXIV.

Nothing whatsoever, it's your basic cut-and-paste MMO with some Final Fantasy flavor.

People are just excited and hopeful that WoW's death will breathe new life into the MMO genre so they're all jumping ship to XIV in an attempt to speed up the process.

>>12805291
That's true now, but she did say the level cap was 50 or 60 when she played. She probably played back when you did have to grind a bit to keep up with the MSQ, so she wouldn't know that it's better now for people who just want follow the story.

>>12826615
To give credit where it's due FFXIV is getting so much positive reception and popularity due to it being an MMO that's polished and not an absolute chore to play and having story people can actually follow and care about. Yes the fact that FFXIV has a coherent story and doesn't feel like your essentially doing a second job is groundbreaking in the MMO genre is that sad.

>>12811217
XIV fans are the vegans of the internet. Their entire purpose in life is shilling XIV to streamers who clearly don’t give a shit like Mori and Gura

>>12798949
Time for my oshi to participate in ERP!

>>12798949
Why are there so many shills of this game?

>>12798949
There's really no point to chuubas playing a game like this unless they wanna devote all their stream time to it and put in hundreds (or thousands) of hours on stream for it to actually do it right and do endgame stuff. That simply is how MMOs are designed to be played - you don't really do much other gaming once you're into them and you don't even care because it becomes all encompassing.

Otherwise it's just a crappy casual advertisement.

>>12832480
>not an absolute chore to play and having story people can actually follow and care about. Yes the fact that FFXIV has a coherent story

>>12798949
Yeah, i prefer it over my oshi endlessly playing genshit

If they stream it with English voices I won't even bother watching.

And I thought we already established this but story games are the worst for streaming to Western audiences. There is a reason why only one holoEN is committed to JRPGs and those streams don't get that many views in comparison. Those story games require new viewers to watch the streams in a linear fashion, and there are those who don't want to spoil themselves.

>>12839285
I prefer genshin to final fantasy shit

I've never played FF14, so kindly enlighten me, FFfags: what are good streaming contents FF14 can offer? Do they have casual contents similar to WoW's 5M / LFR? What about end-game? Is it easy, or are these the kind of raids that can be cleared within 1-2 hours on farm, but will take several weeks of attempts while in progression like WoW's Mythic raids?

>>12841912
FFXIV streams generally fall into several categories:
Main story progression/reactions - the game does not negate any previous content so everyone has to do the entire MSQ to progress
Player-run events/parties - Extensive customization of player housing means people make stuff like bakeries, cafes, bars, nightclubs, even jumping puzzles in their houses
Raid progression - falls under four categories, all of which are 8-man raids
Extreme trials (basically stronger version of story boss fights that generally take a few hours of progression from scratch, less if you look up guides)
Savage raids (three tiers released with patches with four boss fights each that progressively get more difficult, quite a doozy on release and takes about a day of progression)
Unreal trials (stronger versions of older Extreme trials with new mechanics, a bit easier than Savage)
Ultimate raids (the true endgame content where people usually spend 40-60 hours progressing to clear, more if you're bad)
All of them can be cleared relatively quickly (Ultimate enrage is around 18 minutes) if you can do everything perfectly
You occasionally get the person who plays thousands of hours of mahjong ingame too.

>>12841912
Also forgot to add that since all the old raids are still all there, you can still do them for the experience of doing it (and glams/mounts/minions/etc) and even do them at the minimum required item level for the added challenge
Forgot to add the small subset of players who do Necromancer runs, basically a 1-200 floor solo run of a dungeon where you start at level 1 where if you die you fail the challenge, you can step out every ten floors. Usually takes 12 or so hours to do a full run. The game has a lot of side content too but people usually don't focus on them for streams.

>>12842669
Not the anon you're replying to, but are there any successful streamers that actually stream snoozefest of the dead? Like it can be fun solo content but I don't see people watching someone do 160 floors, hit a trap and die, rinse and repeat for 6 hours a day.

>>12798949
Is she sponsored by square?

>>12842435
All sound bad.
Story quests require people to either know the story already, or watch from the beginning.
Raids require people to know the abilities being used and game mechanics, otherwise it's just a bunch of flashy spells and watching boss health go down as this isn't an action game.

>Moona used to stream this game

>>12843268
as far as I know there's only one streamer who gets more than 1k views doing this mostly because he's done it on every job so people watch him to learn how to do it

>>12843535
watching them play for the story will feel like a glorified watchalong but I do want to see the chaos of 8 holos doing a raid. That's assuming they'll even get that far.

>>12843535
Raids in FFXIV are also visual/musical spectacles so it can still be entertaining for people new to the game. If you're an FF fan there are also a lot of callbacks to older games.

>>12805291
The MSQs start off with hours of mindless fetch quests.

>>12798949
>playing soulless flavor of the month
I'd rather do some reps. Or get a job.

>>12844627
>2010
>FOTM

>>12844659
It's a fad for people tired of WoW. Otherwise it wouldn't have mainstream relevance right now.

>>12798949
>Watch MMO grind
No thanks

>>12841912
Its worse version of wow literally.Only challenge - ultimate mode which is just all previous bosses in 1 encounter.

So which data center is Pekora destroying today?

>>12846955
That was true back when WoW used to be good, nowadays FF14 eclipses WoW in terms of quality unless you're one of those mazebrained people who think that Sneedolands is a good expansion

>>12805678
>replace your gear every raid tier
As opposed to what... using the same gear for 5 years in a row and having zero actual reward for doing raids? No you're right they should just make each raid super easy so your group can never wipe, and they should just make it so every time they release a new raid tier all of the old raid gear is synced so you can wear Dreadwyrm gear from Coil and have no actual incentive to raid outside of "lol I cleared it" which should mean nothing because obviously Savage should be doable even if the entire party wipes (spoiler; the margins already aren't that tight and you can have deaths on most fights and still clear)

>>12805678
>possible to do ALL story content through free login campaigns that occasionally arrive
I've only ever seen this system in guild wars 2. In ff14 you have to buy the expansions to play story content. Are you sure you're talking about the right mmo?

>>12842435
>Unreal trials (stronger versions of older Extreme trials with new mechanics)
ARR chad here they're literally the exact same as they were back then, just scaled up to level 80.
That's it, they bloated the HP pool/damage numbers so the fights would be roughly as challenging as they were during ARR. That's it.

>>12798949
No and also fuck omega.

Did they finally get permission to stream this shit?

>first name usada
wtf?

>>12822488
lmao, yep, this is probably what would happen.

>>12848286
Sponsored even I think

>>12847562
Its was always good.People dont realize they just tired of playing the same game for 15 years.They will complete ff14 once and drop it, game has nothing to offer if you are not furry anime incel

>>12799087
It's all Ina's doing. She created Hololive behind the scenes. She orchestrated everything so she could get friends to play FFXIV with.

>>12804121
and here I thought vales model will be a good one, it's shit. they even attempt to copy the doodles

>>12802805
Damn Kiara is annoying ''I think this that this that hard game hurr durr'' just fucking play the game

>>12847517
JP is most likely the datacenter that's going to die if more Holos play the game. Crystal NA is probably the safest server from the streamertide since everyone's going to be put off the by the freakshit reputation that's present in this server.

>>12849646
Aether's the designated streamer server anyways.
I would say Crystal genuinely is not bad if you don't play on Balmung, like everyone makes a big deal of Balmung and as someone who actually plays on the server if you don't hang out in Ul'Dah/Limsa it's actually relatively normal. If you play on any of the other servers, like Zalera or Malboro, your experience is very normal and mundane.
Aether has it's own fucking weird server (Faerie) so if you REALLY wanted a seiso cluster I would actually probably pick Primal (even though it's full of South Americans, which is it's own set of problems)

>>12798949
I'm already level 80 in BIS anon. I am ready.

If Omegatranny successfully gets the EN girls to play XIV, it will be the one good thing he's ever done. EN XIV will be peak kino. I don't even care if Omega wants to insert himself into all their raid groups.

>>12850761
Wrong, MMOs in general are fucking cancer for streamers.
All it takes is 5 people out of 10,000 to mog the streamer everywhere they go to make it a pain in the ass for everyone watching.
They don't even have to annoy the streamer directly by killing mobs or blocking NPCs (so GMs wouldn't have any cause to suspend them). Just standing around, jumping or sitting mounts, like an asshole who thinks peak comedy is photobombing a news spot.

>>12851450
Asmon was doing fine and he's much more popular than your average Hololive streamer. Only the heavy hitters like Pekora or Gura can really compare to his reach.
GMs put work in, give it time.

>>12849740
what's up with faerie?

>>12850761
Ina Savage Progs when?

>>12841912
Good reaction content. If you enjoyed watching Holomems crying, Seto and Seto (Savage) will be a feast

>>12853401
It attracted all the fairy's since the server name is faerie.

t. faerie resident

>>12853401
It's full of Faeries.
It's the gay/LGBT server, even moreso than Balmung.

>>12854222
>>12854240
... what happens if you play on it being straight? do you get raped? turned?

>>12854304
It's fine, you have the Echo to avoid being tempered...right?

>>12841912
XIV has some truly fantastic boss fights (called Trials in game) and an awesome soundtrack to go with them with almost all of them having a unique theme. Objectively the one area where XIV is superior to WoW.

They make for a great spectacle for first timers.

Best server to get a gf? I'm lonely anons...

>>12849093
Hololive seems to be doing a lot of sponsored work for Squeenix lately now that I think of it.

>>12854547
I'm afraid that isn't possible anon. Your only option is a fat tranny larping as a catgirl.

>>12809855
Ame would just ignore the scenes, then when chat gets mad she'd quit and say she'd rather play off stream

>>12854722
She should have played Gwent.

which holo is gonna play on balmung?

>>12854797
I know you're just shitposting but yes, she should have.

>>12811332
Thank God.

>>12854304
>>12854428

I'm sure there's a place you can find if your into that, otherwise people usually get along aside from the people who like to bring up spicy topics in the main hub.

>>12854862
Risu is the only one I could see having balls that big but she's not NA.

>>12854547
This game actually has a lot of girls playing due to being relatively easy to get into, all the fashion options and the player housing. They're usually catboys or female midgets for...some reason.

>>12855095
I'm male and couldn't resist the urge to make a really fucking cute pink haired dragon lady, also want to play as a dragoon... but yeah, just did the character creation bit and haven't opened the game ever since

>>12855354
Almost all the dragon girls are male too kek

>>12855540
I don't know, it just.. I was like "fuck yeah, super tall scaly boy" then saw the female variant and I was like ".. on the other hand..." and she turned out really fucking pretty, so I rolled with it

I tried making a normal average looking average age dude who is a summoner, but my only options were smoothfaced pretty bois or dumb demon hulk and all my clothing are billowy dresses.

>>12809855
I mean
>>12809197
>but their reactions to story moments! come the fuck on mates really?
This just feel like when /hlgg/ were creaming their pants at Ame playing Nier Automata and held on the hopium that she will take it "better" than chikim...
...we all know what happened in the end.
...same with The Witcher...

I wish I enjoyed this gam, but I just can't seem to get into it.

>>12854576
So...kiara won't play it?
Her lastest shill streams were from Namco and the upcoming Sega one for SMTV.
But desu, I only saw the JPs and Ina doing Squarenix shills the mosts.
...what if the big FFXIV EN collab is on Gura's channel? they know collabs are a debuff for gura, right?

>>12856147
Bro you can play a normal Midlander, just make an Ardbert clone lol
Highlander if you wanna be based/old.

>>12855641
There's a glamor system in the game and a system where you can apply them to your whole outfit easily if you upgrade gear, and there are plenty of clothes that can be worn by all classes. I think hyurs (humans) are pretty regular looking especially the highlanders. Can make yourself look rougher with scars or paint.

>>12856532
Nah, of all the Holos the chicken is the most likely to play and enjoy XIV since it's basically a regular jRPG with some MMO elements. Ina is probably the least likely to play it since XIV is her version of Vietnam flashbacks.

>>12856303
That's fine anon-kun. It's VERY story-heavy and things like character builds are completely non-existent. It's not for everyone.

No thanks. I don't really play MMOs with little to no endgame and boring comabt.

>>12856780
>Vietnam flashbacks
RIDING HOOOOOOME
DYING HOOOOOOOPE

>>12804121
Hololive doesn't know how to stream MMOs

>arkino
>minecra
What other games allow for them to collab leasuirely?

>>12858045
Any bets on how long the ARK 2 arc will last? I'm expecting some Namek tier shit.

>>12798949
I already play it with my oshi, Shizurin

>>12858436
Based Shizurin bro

>>12847855
He's a shitposter, they never know what they're talking about.

>>12858436
excited for all branch raid someday

>>12858732
>>12858436
Tell me about rin. Why is she always sitting in 3d collabs.

>>12859929
She's old and lazy

Fuck the actual game, Flare please play mahjong.

>>12805291
ARR is fucking boring and stupidly long for no fucking reason. Any first timer to MMO will drop the game unless they are into some lore shit or like that

>>12861177
>stupidly long for no fucking reason
It’s called “the base game” for a reason you dingbat. Have to spend time getting people unfamiliar with MMOs spun up on the mechanics, and you have to remember ARR was a gigantic crapshoot for SE considering the state 1.0 was in before it was shutdown.

It also helps the team actually took the time to try and parse down the number of MSQs needed to get through it without accidentally retconning anything that might have come later which is a Herculean task in itself.

>>12860383
Wish she'd sit on my lap.

>>12861359
Don't bother arguing these people won't be satisfied until ARR is like 10 quests condensing the entire plotline into the bare minimum comprehensible storyline that takes maybe half an hour to complete, because if it isn't some high stakes epic it's SHIT.
Then they'll complain that HW/SB/ShB takes too long; they'll buy a story skip to ShB, "trudge" through it and then complain there's not enough endgame content for them (while ignoring all the perfectly good content from the older expacs because they're WoWbucks who aren't used to being able to play anything that isn't current content)
You have to remember your "average" MMO player has never been forced to do ANYTHING, they expect to grind for weeks straight to max level, do whatever FOTM raid is available and then grind endgame "content" every single day.

>>12861359
>parse down
They removed all of 10% of the quests and there are still a bunch of worthless ones that tell you to go talk to an NPC then pray return to the waking sands just for a fucking conversation that they could have had over the linkshell... which was HOW SHE TOLD YOU TO RETURN IN THE FIRST PLACE, GOD DAMNIT.

They did fucking nothing to fix the MSQ and I'm tired of shitstains saying it did anything to help the ARR slog.
ARR is braindead simple, they keep removing early abilities and you don't get anything resembling a rotation until at least 60. There isn't any point in doing any fighting because you're not learning the game, you're given shit tasks to do just to watch 20 hours of cutscenes.
WoW's story is shit for other reasons but at least its expansions are self contained, they don't expect you to have played through every expansion to understand the most recent one.

>YOU FOOLS THOUGHT I WOULD ONLY FORCE HOLOEN TO PLAY FF14
>THE TRUTH IS THAT I WILL MAKE EVERY SINGLE HOLOLIVE MEMBER PLAY IT, AND YOU WILL LOVE IT
NOW KNEEL, YOU PLEBS

>>12865385
Why would a music producer have any word on what the talents are supposed to be streaming?
https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1458816959882010625?s=20
Also false

>>12805678
>raid wipe
Oh no we have to use the shortcut to restart the boss it'll take like 20 seconds my day is ruined!
Fucking WoWtroons talking shit without even the most basic knowledge of the game.

>>12808383
Inas talked about raiding before

>>12863774
Return to the waking sands hasn't been an issue since they started handing out teleports to it from the MSQ.
Hell it wasn't really an issue before either, it was just a bit of a meme that a few quests had you go to a place -> talk with npc -> go back and there was no teleport that's right in Vesper Bay. (which meant you had to do two teleport stops and talk with an npc taking up like 40 seconds to return)