/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

hello friends!

So who wins? Koshien or Sportfes

>>12597472
Looking to be Koshien 2021 in highest total peak at a single moment, but Holo Sportsfes did better than last years.

Koshien's peak at the end of finals (~250k)
Holo Sportsfes 2021 peak so far (235k)
Holo Sportsfes 2020 peak (222k)

Peak of CCV combine:

>Hololive Sports fes: 23554+23368+46401+81547+31671+26504+22497 = 255542


>Nijisanji baseball: 205389+20687+20478+4257+2755=253566

>>12597472
Koshien. Combining CCV is nothing but cope

>>12597657
>>12597663
which is the right one?????

Just separate them, no point comparing 1 POV with 7 POVs

Just to show how shitty Youtube numberfagging is

>>12597800
first one is highest total CCV at a given time and other is highest peak of the stream added (they peaked at different times) so >>12597657 is better

>>12597800
If you're actually watching numbers, then you'll see the issue with >>12597663
When it's red A vs white A, the POVs for Pekora and Subaru spike up while everyone else drops.
When Pekora got 46k flying, Miko was at 78k.

It's just some anons desperate for Holo Sports fes to beat Koshien so they're being disingenious.

>>12597909
Then niji will lose..
Single most viewed pov : Coco
Multi : sport fes

>>12598058
>>12598042
okay then so 235k so far.

>>12597657
the koshien number includes the watchalongs too right?

>>12598074
No one asked all time, we're talking about SpoFes vs Koushien
And holofaggots are coping hard trying to go with the peak of each stream than the sum at a moment.
>>12598283
Yes, main channel got 205k peak.

>>12598074
Single most viewed pov: Coco
Most viewed Shill stream: Koshien
Multi: sport fes

>>12598283
Yup, altho we don't have a screenshot of all 4 streams at real time like we do for HoloSports fes so there's a bit of guesswork, but the number should be 245k+ anyways.

>>12597657
do you have pic? need to archive it

>>12597663
Update:

>Hololive sports fes :
23554+24162+46401+81547+31671+26648+24217=258200

>>12598425
Koshien wasn't a shill stream it was an event/tournament with 8 players. Konami sponsors them every year.

>>12597657
If only gura actually advertises the sportfes properly..... Chumbabies are too stupid to notice a simple retweet.

This is confusing to compare. Koshien has one main POV and 4 watchalong. While Sportfest has one main POV and 6 secondary POV.

>>12598503
fuck off with summing peaks nigger

>>12598481
Koshien 2021: >>12582064
Holo Sportsfes 2021 peak: >>12588637
Holo Sportsfes 2020 peak: >>>>12576127

>>12598644
>Already Cope
LMAO

>>12598606
>Koshien wasn't a shill stream
>Konami sponsors them every year
which is it

>>12598461
Is the it possible to checl on playboard the peak of koshien and then compare the timeframe with the watchalong streams? It should be a rather accurate estimate, although i doubt it will be mich different from the numbers already proposed. There's no reason to juml around channels like for the holofes to get better POVs

Why are you guys comparing it to Koshien and not like, a non sponsored Niji tournament.

>>12598805
That's way too much work for a thread dominated by shitposting lmao
Just appreciate the big numbers. Both companies are doing well.

>>12598805
posted above you >>12582064

>>12598283
Nta, but yeah he included them that's why it was listed as 250k

>>12598425
Outfit Reveal: 194k (Gura)
JP Debut: 113k (Botan)
EN Debut: 95k (Kronii)
Premiere: Kanata (forgot about the exact but its around 100k)

>>12598761
>literally manipulating numbers to force a win in some way
>telling others they're coping
meds

>>12598639
I don't think watchalong is same with secondary POV. Secondary POV for Koshien is like if the team coaches actually do POV stream too

>>12599129
welcome to number threads

>>12599140
So you're telling us we should exclude Miko's POV from the SportFes?

>>12599129
on the screenshot of Niji's one >>12598678 it's peak at different times for each stream too?

>>12598606
>Konami sponsors them every year.
So then it's a shill stream.

why are nijiniggers so mad
is it that hard to accept that a shitty forced sponsored tournament of the most popular sport in japan was beaten by some girls playing a scuffed minecraft tournament on their own?

>>12598503
nijibros...not like this...

>>12599263
Isn't Miko channel stream is main POV just like Nijisanji channel stream?

>>12599305
Does this looks like a peak to you or are you just retarded?

>>12599514
does it look like the same time to you

>>12599442
Only if you're retarded enought to combine CCV instead of just taking the main POV numbers.

>>12599561
different streams started at different times you dumbass

>>12599305
LMAO the details nijiniggers will never tell us

>>12599582
LOL MAD COPE

>>12599582
7 POVs against 1 POV with several watchalongs, retard

>>12599606
you're dumb it's a clock?

>>12599514
>Other 3 watch-along really matter are at Peak
Nice try nijiniggers

>>12599616
>lose to Koshien
>suddenly change the rules and combie CCV
>lmao cope more nijifaggot
Do Holobronies really?

>>12599129
>>12599305
lmao Nijifags need to just log off and take the L for today. Getting embarrassing now

>>12599582
Nijifags are Retarded as always.
Too blind and dumb to accept facts

>>12599692
Are you dense, you motherfucker? Sportsfest has Miko as the main POV, therefore only Miko's numbers should be taken in

>>12599837
the fact that holobronies take losing so bad they invent ways to pretend they are winning everything

>>12599913
So mad, nijisister please take a chill pill.

>>12597109

>>12599442
I think it's you who are mad. Forcing to compare a one POV stream with a multi-POV stream just so you can say you are winning. Are you too insecure despite the fact that Hololive is clearly winning in most aspect here in #?

>>12598979
That's the only thing that kept them going anon, you can't take those away like that

>>12599582
Only if you're retarded enough to add watchalongs to koshien.

>>12598615
The issue is there's an outsized proportion of Gura's subs/fanbase that aren't on twitter. We have numbers to prove it too, every other Holomem (except for council) tracks pretty close for subs to twitter followers ratio. I can pull up the chart someone posted on the holostatistics subreddit later of you want it.
What this means is Gura is actively sabotaging herself by not posting her goddamn schedule on her community page.

>>12599954
>Invent
There are more people watching the sports festival than the number who watched Koshien in total. This is pure fact. Cope however you want.

>>12598678
thanks

>>12599765
COPE NIJIFAG

>>12599990
>Holo clearly winning
>cant win with their main POV so they combine CCV numbers instead when Niji never did the same
Lmao the Holocope is delicious today

>Nobody was tracking niji baseball total ccv and now nijiniggers're coping

>>12599990
Koshien is multi-POV too, keep being mad

>>12600115
Do you archive reps retard. It was Holofaggots who were suddenly adding Watchalong numbers because we were calling them out for combining Sportfest numbers

I wonder how long the arguments will loop

>>12600147
Now this is a real cope, what are the odds of someone opening multi POVs of what's basically a watchalong and of someone actually having multiple POV opens for a stupid block game and hopping channels as the action shifts?

Fucking idiots just accept that 1 POV is not meant to be compared to 7 POVs

Based on the replies, why do I feel like Nijisanji has more EOP fans than Hololive? Is there a silent majority wayching Niji contents?

>>12600307
I jinxed it when I said I hope the timeloops would be over after 2 hours.... we're getting close to 4 hours lmao

>>12599442
>minecraft
the most popular video game in the planet anon

>>12600329
its shitposters and falseflaggers

>>12600124
i really want to hate her for this but i just can't. She's just too cute.

>>12600201
> Hololive is clearly winning in most aspect here in #
>in MOST

and I'm not even a holofan lmao

>>12599008
Now here's a question, what's the highest ever CCV for a chuuba outside of Hololive and Nijisanji?

>>12600329
Niji has no EOP fans faggot, pure JOP!

>>12600313
Youtube doesn't count multiple tabs as views my man. It doesn't even count multiple devices logged in to the same youtube account.

>>12600394
they really are bots, and the only hope for these people for everything to return to ZERO

>>12599913
Idiot...

People would watch the POVs where their oshi is mostly present.
I'm only watching IRyS because my Oshi Kronii is there.

You know why there are 6 other POVs?
Because the stage is too wide and too many chuubas. Miko can't capture all the kino moments.
Look at the numbers. Pekora has 38k while Miko has 68k then the rest is around 20k+.
The numbers are scattered unlike Koshien where the Main Channel is the must watch.

>>12600329
EOPschizo...
Why don't you boost king's vampire...

>>12600329
>EOP
Do I need to post Kuzukek's Vampire again?

Holocop list

>VSHOJO BEING INVITED TO LIVE EVENTS DUE TO THEM HAVING 3D, NOT BECAUSE THEY HAVE HIGHER VIEWERSHIP
>COMBINING MULTIPLE POV BECAUSE THEY CAN'T WIN IN ONE


You're welcome to add more on the cope list. Let's see if these holifags like their own medicine.

>>12600264
No, Koshien is not multi-POV. the other streams are watchalong. Blame the retard anon who added those watchalong streams to Koshien's number

Man it must be demoralizing to be a Nijifag. Imagine getting mogged every single day and having to come up with increasingly desperate copes for how Niji really didn't get BTFO yet again. Respect for those who can keep getting up off the mat over and over and come back here to wave their flag in the face of another imminent humiliation.

>>12600516
kpop stans are catching on a bit

>>12600545
Ritual!

>>12600554
Both of these doesn't even make sense
You literally debunked the first cope yourself while the second is pure bullshitting
Here's yours for comparison
NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>Watchalongs are POVs

>>12600124
i hope gura followed mori and ina's example by making a stream reservation for their schedule.

>>12600496
Sounds like a whole lotta cope
Niji had a main POV, Holo has a main POV
We should only compare main POV numbers
SIMPLE AS

>>12600554

>>12600496
Isn't Koshien only have 6-8 nijis appeared unlike SportFes when almost everyone appeared?

>>12600685
That's actually a good argument.

>>12600124
>every other Holomem (except for council) tracks pretty close for subs to twitter followers ratio
That's just because Gura has a disproportionately high number of dead subs. Track twitter followers vs CCV and she's actually a little bit ahead of par.

>>12600655
Here's why context is important
Is 1 POV for an event a lot? Not really
Is 1 retard in this thread a lot? Fuck yes
Simple ASS

>>12600554
Atleast put actual copes.

And the way you capslock it. Lol seethe more.

More for the NijiCope List
>You can't count the other POVs because Miko is the main pov

I swear Nijifags are too short sighted and dumb

>>12600329
Falseflagging as a nijifan gives you free (You)s with zero effort. Just bring up kuzuha. It's actually more effective tham making a bait thread. I just wosh i didn't have to waste half an hour scrolling past the shitflinging on this thread to read about NUMBERS

>>12600685
All the Nijis are in Koshien faggot

Kuzukek's Vampire cover

1st hour: 145k
2nd hour: 245k (+100k)
3rd hour: 515k (+270k)
4th hour: 647k (+132k)
5th hour: 740k (+93k)
6th hour: 822k (+82k)
7th hour: 890k (+68k)
8th hour: 936k (+46k)
8h20m: 948k (+12k) (600 views/min; -21%)
8h40m: 957k (+9k) (450 views/min; -25%)
9h00m: 964k (+7k) (350 views/min; -22%)
9h20m: 970k (+6k) (300 views/min; -14%)
9h40m: 976.9k (+6.9k) (345 views/min; +15%)
10h00m: 981.1k (+4.2k) (210 views/min;-39%)
10h20m: 984.5k (+3.4k) (170 views/min;-19%)
10h40m: 987.6k (+3.1k) (155 views/min;-9%)
11h00m: 990.9k (+3.3k) (165 views/min;+3%)
11h20m: 994.9k (+4.0k) (200 views/min;+17%)
11h30m: 997.0k (+2.1k) (210 views/min;+5%)


Hours to 1 million views

Kuzuha - Vampire -> 11h44hm @ 210 view/minute

Gura - Reflect -> 10h29min
Caligula -> King 11h36m

>>12600655
Cope.

>>12600329
There's only a 1 minute cooldown before you can post again.

Most of them are just samefagging.

>>12600867
Wow, so Deron have been streaming Splatoon for hours now from Koshien? She's so cool!

Bets on how long will this shitflinging last? My money is on 2 days.

>>12600797
Nijis didnt add the numbers for the watchalong, then why are you fuckers suddenly adding the numbers for other POVs? You retards are the ones who started changing the rules

Main POV vs Main POV. Anything else is just pure cope

Ok guys I've decided to do the same thing and combine the peaks of the first day of this year's Nijisanji Mahjong tournament. The result will definitely surprise you.

>>12600866
>Clutch
Gura - Reflect -> 10h29m
Caligula - King -> 11h36m
Kuzuha - Vampire -> 11h44m

Nothing personal kid

>>12600685
>>12600771
Lol atleast research first before posting.

>>12601055
wtf

1. Koshien was a single POV so counting watchalongs is retarded.
2. SportsFes has multiple POVs with one main one, but people will want to hear the VC of their oshi. Thus a lot of people watching will have the main POV up but muted, and have their oshi's VC up with sounds. We know this fucks with Youtube's counting but to what extend? Who knows. Is combining all POV valid because of this reason? Who knows.
Falling on deaf ears since most are samefagging and falseflagging but just wait for EN (especially Gura's) 3D debut.

>>12600867
What next? Pomu has the highest number from all EN vtuber because a powerpro player named as her appeared in game

>>12601055
This is the kind of Niji damage control I live for.

>>12601055
Haha incredible.
For those confused, IIRC only 4 POVs + main POV stream at the same time.

>>12599514
The Niji ID peaked during the second game since Onomachi Haruka's team had the most ID members.

>>12601117
The only sensible post in this thread for the past 4 hours.

>>12600786
Dead subs isnt the metric I'd use, because we know she gets higher unique chatters, higher VOD growth, and very high song views vs her base CCV but track closer to her sub count.
Instead, what she has are 'low engagement' subs, ones that either cannot or do not watch streams live as often vs other Holomem. Is that bad? Eh, if affects her CCV, so on that count, not as good. It does mean more people see her and know her though.

>>12600866
>EOP...EOPs...swear...

>>12601171
Well we have this guy >>12597663 >>12598503 here so I think it's fair.

>>12601055
Are those even real numbers? I don't watch or care about Niji so i won't know.

But i do know that if its fact then Nijifags would've already spammed it.
They would've already used it to counter Multi-POVs Holo events like this Sports Fest.

>>12601117
Your 1) and 2) are the same tho.
You think people who were watching the watchalongs for Koshien weren't also watching Koshien as the main POV?
What's the difference with adding up for both events?

thread almost at page 11, just a bit more...

>>12601171
>>12601055
Another Nijifag Bait and Lies then?

I just remembered the faggot yesterday who said Pomu got 12k but turns out she only got 5k.
Kek

>>12599305
Nope. Several streams started during the final game so that's why the timing is different. The selected moment on the screen shot happened at the same timestamp.

>>12601315
It was multiple events spread over a day rather than a single event with multiple POV. Though they don't even win on this count since if you take the peaks of any given good streaming day for Hololive Niji gets completely demolished yet again. They really can't find any angle to win since Hololive has better numbers, period. Only Kuzuha can keep up with the top tier Holos and the rest of niji can barely keep pace with Towa

>>12600866
Wow couldn't even take the silver. Kek

>>12601055
they sure reclined hard from that lmao

>>12601544
It's a joke post anon, stop taking shit in these threads so seriously

>>12601117
finally a post that makes sense

>>12601544
She got 12k....in my heart

>>12601117
>just wait for EN (especially Gura's) 3D debut
i don't want to wait 3 years tho

I think 235k is the peak.

update

Top 3 highest ccv of a single hololive stream (2021)

>20/10/21 145,305 Miko 3D Return stream
>20/10/21 140,116 Noel 1st costume reveal
>20/10/18 137,900 Marine 1st costume reveal

Top 3 highest views of hololive simultaneously streams (2021)

>21/06/27 248,669 Usaken summer festival
>21/11/06 235,314 Hololive sportfes 2021
>21/01/11 206,994 Hololive Mariocup 2021

>>12601117
>1. Koshien was a single POV so counting watchalongs is retarded.
Why is it retarded? You literally described it yourself
>a lot of people watching will have the main POV up but muted, and have their oshi's VC up with sounds.
Is this not the same case with a watchalong? I guess they don't mute the main POV.

>>12601117
>so counting watchalongs is retarded
If youtube viewer counting really works the same way this thread keeps telling than it's quite possible that the viewers who were counted in the watchalong stream were culled by youtube from viewers on the main stream (since it would be pretty were to watch just a watchalong without the real thing). So I don't see why they shouldn't be counted.

>>12601329
I mean you are right, but the content of the watchalongs are the same with the main channel except for the sounds, which can definitely contribute to Youtube fuckery in CCV counting. But, compare that to the POVs of SportsFes right now with the Miko fixing the stage and other channels goofing around, there is a fundamental difference between multiple POVs and watchalongs. No numbers of course so I'm just blogposting.

Coco got 490k which is more than 1/3 of her subscriber count.

If Gura graduates with the same amount of prep like coco, you think she can get a million?
(And for pure holo numberfags, don't wish for it since it will kill HoloEN)

fixed.

Top 3 highest ccv of a single hololive stream (2021)

>21/07/01 491,342 Coco Graduation stream
>21/05/07 194,140 Gura Costume reveal
>21/07/03 139,393 Marine 1M gen3 3DLive

Top 3 highest views of hololive simultaneously streams (2021)

>21/06/27 248,669 Usaken summer festival
>21/11/06 235,314 Hololive sportfes 2021
>21/01/11 206,994 Hololive Mariocup 2021

>>12602013
>the content of the watchalongs are the same with the main channel
Do you even have any idea what you're talking about? The content of watchalongs was people commenting on the main stream. The didn't have a vod on their streams.

Why is niji losing everything bros...
Life is unfair

Say wasn't one of the small en agencies debuting today?

>>12602297
I know bro I keep trying to throw shit back but we've got nothing, it fucking sucks. Why does Niji lose every time

>Koshien is win because "my way of number counting"
>No, SportFes is win because "my way of number counting"
This is just as bullshit as the debate of the longest river in the world

>>12602393
I know. Frankly the fact that both events have gone up in number despite YT's fuckery means that both corps have managed to grow their audience to some extent, which is good.

>>12602393
Yes, that is literally the nature of the numbers threads, thank you for noticing.

Anon that predicted 40-60k for both IRyS and Baelz POV found the rope?

Man, these stalls to fix issues are killing the numbers a bit. Ah well, shit happens.

Nijifags can't understand the difference between another POV and a watchalong
POV: different streamer playing the same game but as their own POV, see Hololive Sports Fes where the POV is of their team, or Amongus for another example where everyone streams their own POV
Watchalong: watching a stream with commentary but they're not part of the game and does not have a POV
>>12602393
Koshien second highest single stream CCV, Sports Fes highest multistream CCV

>>12602510
now we "enjoy" this timeloop for the rest of the day.

>>12602472
Adding to that Nijisanji's stream managed to get over 200k with Susan fucking up Youtube hard during the final game so there's that.
>inb4 cope etc

>>12602570
this shit will last for a week

>>12602337
Kawaii Productions I think.

>>12602679
right opposite hololive sports fes? Really? Were they trying to commit suicide?

>>12602560
>Sports Fes highest multistream CCV
Naw, that's Usaken fes, but HoloSports Fes 2021 is close.

>>12602560
They are part of Koshien retard

>>12602560
>>12602011
Try reading this post for a change.

>>12602552
>Anon that predicted Aqua, Fubuki, Subaru 40-60k POV found the rope?

>>12602510
Well, it's tribalists use number just like usual

>>12602560
Nah Coco demolish them both.

She already conquered Hololive Numbers so now she's targeting Japan then the world.

>>12601055
Can you do the same for their Mario Kart tourney from last year? It is bound to inflate to bullshit numbers with all the concurrent streams

>>12602854
Weren't there like 70 participants in that?
Anon is going to die compiling up the 2views.

>>12602739
>watchalong
>also part of Koshien
pick one

>>12602854
Nope too much work. I had to go through both twitter accounts and playboard for over 64 streams to get the peaks.

>>12602737
most of them didn't stream Usaken fes at the same time

>>12602560
>Nijifags can't understand the difference between another POV and a watchalong
How could they? Selen was supposed to be a Ethyria debut watchalong but ended up stealing the show

>>12602915
>rules made up on the spot
>dictated by the voices in my head
>with an amendment as soon as the other attempted to use it against me
just accept your mogging holocuck

>>12602854
not everyone streaming at the same time.

>>12603047
>>12574124
???

I am fine with counting koushien watchalongs. The nature of koushien stream is different because you just need to watch one pov to get everything and watchalongs are pretty much like twitch streamers reacting to other streamers on stream and you watch for the reaction. Sport fes main pov is miko but you miss a lot of things by just watching one pov which is very different in nature compare to koshien.

>>12603296
with Kuzuha

Jesus Christ Miko you should've bugtested these games because the redos and the cheatings are ruining the retention. Also lmaoIng at Aqua for redoing the game and still losing.

>>12603287
>either second place or second place so tries to force one into a first place

>>12603423
What was the date for this event?
That's just the first 9 mins for Kuzuha's stream too so likely not the peak.

>>12603629
2020/12/12

>>12597657
Stop combining koshien with a bunch of watchalongs. This comparison with holo sportfes makes no sense with how the events are made.

Might be the top stream tomorrow.

>>12603940
If only people can read.

>>12600797
Except only you fucking retards are adding a bunch of streams into one when koshien is just one stream and the rest are fucking watchalongs. The comparison is fucking retarded. Forget koshien, just focus on the event. It makes zero sense to put each against other.

>>12603940
>Stop combining koshien with a bunch of watchalongs.
Still waiting for an argument why they shouldn't be combined.
The people who were watching the watchalong were watching the main POV just like how people watching Miko now are watching their oshi's POV.
The cull is the same on both sides.

>>12603940
>>12604262
cope

>>12600867
There's 200 members in Nijisanji you absolute faggot. Only 8 members are part of it, the others are only characters in a game.

>>12604361
I.e. they are part of Koshien. Cope and seethe more faggot

>>12604262
but the very nature of the format of the sports fest then necessitates acknowledging that even if Miko is the "lead" perspective, it genuinely doesn't operate as the only perspective for following all the action, as within the "sub" perspectives, you have breakout groups and separate event relevant conversations ongoing - and not just commentary, but actual participants.

>>12601329
There's actually three iirc. Kawaii, Tsunderia and prism

>>12604432
They don't use 200 players.

>>12604119
Smart of them to have a collab like this tomorrow since msot Holos are likely to not stream.

>>12604574
>the very nature of the format
is retarded, they do it to themselves by making so many splits instead of gathering all the views on the official channel

>>12604119
B4B is a split POV game so it'll probably be a 35-40k Kuzuha's stream instead of a 60k single POV.

>>12604574
The watchalongs also had the participants tho

>>12604574
The difference is that Koshien is the actual event. You don't need to watch watchalongs at all. Holofest is an event with most of the members at the same time.

A comparison with the mahjong tournament that was posted ago make more sense because it had a main pov and other players in their channel. Koshien doesn't.
>>12604432
The vtubers aren't in there imbecile.

>>12602968
Eh, understandable. Maybe I'll do it myself later if I'm bored and the next thread goes up in flames like this one

>>12604819
But you don't need to watch all povs of sport fes if you just want to know the result. Just the Miko's one.

>>12604764
B4B is a bit of a debuff game tho, I know it cause I like it and I only like debuff games.

>>12604760
So are you proposing a 7-8 way split screen on the main Holo channel to build a similar situation? because if that is what you are proposing, genuinely hang yourself from the sturdiest rafter nearby.

Top 5 for today stream all holos?

>>12605081
On the other hadn Dokuzuhonsha is a huge buff. It's pretty much the most popular group in Nijisanji.

>>12605008
Do you think most of viewers watch Hololive sportfes for result like some sport matches?

>>12604760
The very nature of the format for koshien is that the gameplay could be done in the turns, which is why they could do it in one single POV. At least learn the difference, no one wants to see just one single POV from miko when there's a lot going from the background. You don't see Koshien doing 4 v 4s with 4 POVs just to save up time.

>>12605309
Same logic as
>You don't need to watch watchalongs at all

>>12605367
>no one wants to see just one single POV from miko when there's a lot going from the background.
could literally be said about any sport or live if they offered backstage POVs

Is there a list for "top superchats earned from a single stream"?

why are you guys comparing it to koshien again? 491k, whatever koshien got doesn't matter, certainly not enough to compare combined ccb against it.

>>12605616
https://playboard.co/en/chart/live/most-superchatted-all-videos-in-worldwide-total

>>12605529
>>12605309
>>12605008
Are you guys for real? Lfmao

>>12605626
>comparing a yearly event to a graduation stream

>>12605529
>any sport
This is literally Minecraft. They're doing a made up sport fest. Are you really taking this one seriously when it's all just fun, games and building stories/relationships? If it was serious, there would be brackets, semi finals an finals all focused into one POV. This doesn't have that.

>200 posts
>45 posters
>huge ratio of words to numbers
Yeah, SEA hours weekend numbers thread alright

Glad that my screenshot ruined plans of revisionists so much. Bring more cope please, it's delicious.

>>12605839
>>12603423 ?

>>12605802
also compared it to other shows, like variety shows or talent shows. If those offered backstage POVs

>>12605839
What screenshot? You do know a ton of screenshots were posted right?

>>12605802
>Are you really taking this one seriously
wwwwwwww
The amount of seethe from both sides over this

Koshien could've been easily done in a single day, had they do multiple POVs to finish off day 1 and 2. Then fit the finalists into primetime. But they did it in one POV and spaced bracket A and B for day 1 and 2. Finals for the third day. On top of that, for the finals, they made it so everyone could fight each other prolonging the time in a 1 vs 1 to determine the 5,6,7 and 8th spot which is useless. All for what?

>Numbers
They're getting paid hourly with the amount of viewers watching in because it's sponsored.

>>12606296
Koshien was done in a single day.

>>12606419
>21/08/15 205,448 Nijisanji Baseball 2021 finals (Nijisanji)
>21/08/14 170,896 Nijisanji Baseball 2021 Game B (Nijisanji)
>21/08/13 147,639 Nijisanji Baseball 2021 Game A (Nijisanji)
It's a 3 day event just because they want to make it in a single POV. They could be done in a single day had they open multi-POVs with two casters on the job for each one.

>>12606875
My bad.

>>12606875
If you're counting that then hololive also spammed practice sessions to stretch it out over multiple days.

>>12607038
>stretch
What? They're not actually earning money/watch time, it's just more MC content

>>12607038
Retard doesn't know Nijis practiced Koshien for a literal month, gaining greatly inflated numbers for way more streams than a handful of minecraft streams.

So how did Kawaii pro's new gen do?

>>12600554
>No Holochad cares about the shit collab but Nijiniggers acting proud they leeched off every other content creators
>Hololive still has the most ccv stream with 491k
B-but its graduation so it doesn’t count because I said so!
The absolute state of Nijiniggers. Even trying to copy Holochads making the list but STILL failed. Kek.

I state facts in the Numbers Thread
>i get called a coping holofag
I state facts in the Hololive Global
>i get called a coping teamwhitefaggot

>>12604119
When was the splatoon tournament again?

WHAT WENT WRONG?

So now that the dust has settled, is HoloFes 2021 a failure in terms of numbers?

>>12609085
>in the Hololive Global
your a faggot and a globaltard

>>12609323
No.

i still dont get why wouldnt they do this on jp prime time instead

>>12609364
En

>>12609364
It's Saturday there so it's not as bad.

>>12609364
Sports festivals don't happen at night.

>>12609323
It did better than last year despite the new YouTube's spam filter, so quite the opposite of a failure.

>>12609085
You're insane to be at global during big events.

>>12609091
In two weeks

>>12609515
Still not beating koshien tweet

>>12609596
That's a lot longer than I thought. I thought it'd be tomorrow, the same way smash and blaze sails was done.

>>12609744
Post the screenshot or you're a faggot

>>12609156
She's boring.

Here's a number: 299

>>12609744
>Malaysia
177k Tweets
>Worldwide
159k
>Japan
164k

>>12605783
>I-it doesnt count because I said so!
So company collabs should? If we talk about non collab streams then Hololive still wins with 194k. Seethe more Nijinigger. All Niji ever wins is Twitter engagement and google shit.

>>12609988
>Malaysia
177k
>Japan
164k
How?

Miko's vod count. still subjected to change due to youtube processing the view counts

>>12610206
I'm using this one
https://trends24.in/japan/

>>12610038
Guess Cover will have to graduate someone again next year to beat Nijisanji's annual PowerPro event.

>>12610206
wdym how? hololive has EOPs. No one outside of japan will care about Koshien

>>12610302
>3D debuts

>>12609988
>>12610281
>>12610371
Retards.

Anglobros...

>>12610206
May be they got myholotv and hololive mix up kek

>>12610398
They'll cope that it's the first 3D ever for EN so it doesn't count either.

Already 1M VOD views https://youtu.be/wks67WHSGDw

>>12610591
I'm literally searching using the tags

>>12610639
>Pekora new unbraided hair outfit

>>12609323
Higher peak than last year's sports fes (Miko POV 81k> 78k. Total: 235k > 222k)
Much better retention than last year.
Individual POVs weren't as high, but there were more POVs this year than last year so the totals ended up higher.
EN numbers understandably fell off a cliff as the event went on (It's 2am PST/5am EST right now), but it was a nice boost. Numbers would've been much higher if it was Gura and Kronii POV instead of Bae and Irys tho.
Overall, a success and improvement.

>>12610302
I guess Nijisanji can’t even graduate anyone to get even half of 491k. Sad :(

>>12610508
Damn those seanigs

>>12609323
absolutely not considering it even grew despite the december ccv culling

end of stream views

>>12610768
If you want to see actual seanigs, then look at Nijiniggers

>>12610726
wait till kanae & kuzuha double graduate

One major event done, Myth new outfit when? Didn't they announce it back in September?

>>12610726
They haven't even graduated anyone since Lulu. Truly unprofessional.

Worldwide

>>12610302
Gura mogged koshien 2020 tbf and shes going to do it again this year

>>12610726
>half
Honestly Kuzuha could come up only 100k short if he were to graduate
To truly beat that number though graduate at least 3 top tier chubbas and it's considered done

>>12610660
>54k likes vs 51k likes
Already more likes than Koshien 2021 finals kek
Some things never change
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wks67WHSGDw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIdkwtoQols
It's a joke

>>12610858
I'm looking as hard as I can and still see Holoseaniggers. Weird.

>>12610863
I would gladly take an impossible to beat 1m CCV record just to see the state of Nijisanji after

How many for Koshien?

>>12610924
3rd week of November

>>12611067
Would be funny if they happen at the same time as niji splat.

>>12610863
Then the Number thread would juat a hololive

>>12610924
fuck that, where the hell is pekora's outfit? i remember she once said weeks ago that she might get it soon but where the hell is it?

>>12610994
Only worldwide brand like capcom and nintendo or popular IRL celebrities can beat that number.

1. Celebrity
2. Worldwide brand (Nintendo)
3. Celebrity
4. Celebrity
5. Worldwide brand (Nintendo)
6. Celebrity (government)
7. Popular brand (monster strike)
8. Celebrity
9. Worldwide brand (Capcom)
10. Celebrity

>>12610975
didn't get number 1 in burgerland because of what happened at the Travis Scott and Drake concert

>>12611218
probably in December

>>12611301
Damn Sora Smash reveal knocked Coco's graduation out of the top 10

>>12611036
>koshien
Tourist central

>>12611182
JP6 2nd week of November
Myth costume 3rd week of November
ezpz november mog

>>12611044
You are not looking hard enough

>>12611466
Coco could've gotten over 500k if it weren't for the Susan screw-up at the final moment when she played her song.

>>12611638
UAEsisters why did you abandon the King with his Vampire...

spiked up after the event

>>12610826
As expected, some CCV culls and fuckery going on.
>Bae tied with Subaru
>avg/peak
>Bae: 21768/ 26648
>Subaru: 25135/ 31671
Subaru had a much higher peak and average but somehow ended up with less total views.

>Irys 30k more views than Aqua and Fubuki
>Irys: 18934/ 24217
>Aqua: 19090/26064
>Fubuki: 19444/24162

>>12611834
guess Cover remembered to switch on the bots

>>12611896
They don't need to, the chinks are probably flooding the hashtag and helping them kek

>>12611896

>>12611896
thanks for the bots nijichinks

Hololive Sports Festival had more viewers than Niji's dumb baseball event and that is all I care about.

>>12612043
This

>>12611860
Because of Gura. She has a high turnover view rate. 119k peak/407k end of stream views. And this is pre-spamview stream

>>12612043
Cool, good for you anon, now if you would just stop trying to gaslight Nijifags and Holofags into a tribal war again when it's clearly dying down

>>12611860
Aka, the more EN you have, the bigger your culls. 0 surprise given what some prelim testing that some Anon's did showed Adblock = CCV not counted for the user. Needs more definite proof though, like 500 accounts, half with and half without, visiting a livestream. Just to be sure.

>>12611044
You’re probably a Seanigger yourself trying to hide your retardation and shit grammar. Let me guess, Indonesia?

>>12611050
retook #1 WW

>>12611638
Come to Brazil Suisei

>the biggest vtuber agency's most notorious competition of the year
>a fierce battle fought by dozens of talents from across the world after weeks of building up hype
>gets utterly and dominantly mogged by pasty 10 white nerds playing a dead FPS on LAN
holobros... we fucking lost.

>>12612276
the difference on yt and twitch peak lmao

>>12612150
Or maybe Philippines, who knows? Don't really see any other choices here >>12610508

>>12612276
damn I thought CSGO was dead?

>>12612390
Not at all, that would be SC2, deader than Brood Wars.

>>12612276
>Holo vs Csgo now
Nijinigs...

>>12612276
Cool now give me DOTA2 TI and LOL Worlds, please.

>>12612390
If CSGO can get these numbers, the LoL Worlds finals numbers are going to be more insane than they already are.
Quarterfinals was already getting 850k just from Twitch.

>>12612276
>weeks of building up hype
What fucking bullshit are you saying now? Nijiniggers really coping hard

>>12612276
thats honestly really impressive for csgo

>>12612458
>>12612483
Come on anons I know you're riled up and shit but please please understand the difference between an attack and a joke

>>12612527
holobronies are this retarded, please understand and be patient

holo who? niji who? all midgets

>SportsFest ended up in a tie
I don’t think this semen slurping sport is for me

>>12610961
Her graduation numbers showed it's not a viable tactics for nijisanji

>>12612653
Are you comparing streamers?... Also wtf with Spain who has the entire podium?

Ugh, Mario party collab on Kiara's channel...DEBUFF'D.

>>12612527
nijichinks...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wNRGW3exQY predictions? ill go with 30k

>>12612708
https://getdaytrends.com/trend/%23%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AD%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%96%E5%A4%A7%E9%81%8B%E5%8B%95%E4%BC%9A2021/

According to this, it's at 244.9k now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1gNN9XIbOs
>Towa Roboco rpr
Who's translating? 10k possible?

>>12611896
>Event ends
>People tweet about it
It's like magic.

>>12612806
30k seems good, it's a musing on the SportsFes stream.
>>12612873
Roboco channel, less than 19k. I say 7-8k tops. Dunno who's translating, maybe they've all done enough reps to hopefully get by.

>>12612897
That explains the /pol/shitflinging in the sticky lol.

>>12612873
No chance if Towa is streaming, and she likely is.

>>12613004
Oh u
Yea, if Towa is streaming too then it'll probs be 8-9k Towa and 1-2k roboco.

>>12612873
>Roboco third wheeling
kek. It won't exceed 20k, assuming Towa streams

>>12612276
When Nijinigs isnt even worth to compare yourself to and you have to call in one of the absolute top competetive online games

Lmao my fucking sides...

>>12613082 (me)
20k too generous, I'll just agree with this >>12613063

>>12612806
Lmfao, Miko isn't satisfied. She'll make sure to milk every possible numbers.
Sasuga Numbersagi's Wife

>>12612592
>Nijinigger playing victim
What next? Are you going to say this board is only Holofags falseflagging and no nijiniggere? Oh wait, you already coped this hard. Kek

>>12612897
>vt goes up
>pol goes down
really makes you think

>>12613411
the 13% really lives rent free in your head

How many (You) do you get today, numberbros?

>>12612707
Latin America is pulling up the Spanish numbers since people in Latin America can't entertain without using a football.

Is this the month where miko beats Pekkers in Watch Hours?

>Koshien ended
>little to no clips
>Any holo event ended
>tons of clips in many translated languages
How to stop these clipper bros?

>>12613814
clipping hololive gives them more money than clipping nijisanji. it's basic economics in the clipper market. there simply isn't a demand for niji right now in the English market.

>>12613856
>150 members
>not a whole lot of clips by the hour
Yea..

>>12613814
>>12613856
will be interesting to compare amount of JP clips of of Niji vs Hololive

>>12613926
Is that the site that doesn't list most of clips?

>>12613969
Where else can you get a list of clips ready. This site is the best one there is for now.

Miko might actually get 30k this stream lmao.
She already have 12k on her waiting room

>>12614019
The hashtags?

>>12614049
damn, thank god niji doesn't schedule any big stream tonight else gonna get mogged twice by pink woman

The big winners.

>E-Emperor…

>>12614217
Damn that's a nice haul
>>12614150
Does Niji have any 20k+ streams today? I think Top10 of the day will be all Hololive

>>12614217
Unsurprisingly the cameramen get their dues.
The amount of seething going on on the board over the tie and somewhat arbitrary rules makes me glad I don't hang out too often in hlgg, I'm guessing it and the sticky were a mess the entire event...

>>12614266
thats a surprisingly small amount of bait. It would have been much worse if one of the teams actually lost.

>>12613806
Might be, so far this month Pekora has 596651 watch hours. Miko has 761759. Calculated with hour+minutes and values from holostats, the total is rounded down.
It's not an unsurmountable lead though since it's worth noting that pretty much half of Mikos hours came from todays stream. If Pekora keeps her normal pace she should still keep ahead of Miko.

>>12614217
TICK TOCK FAUNA
inb4 susan axes them

>>12614348
I wonder how much will Pekora seethe if Miko overtakes her.
Is it possible tho?

>>12613932
you could do that by comparing youtube hashtags,
#にじさんじ has 92k videos, 4.7k channels
#ホロライブ has 127k videos, 5.9k channels
#nijisanji has 18k videos, 1.6k channels
#hololive has 210k videos, 12k channels

>>12614398
Unsurprising. Jp much closer, but EN scene isn't even close.

Found an interesting fan animation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcSP1eOdp0I

Already about 200k views in one week for a channel with 75k subs.

>>12614348
>this month
you mean in the first 6 days? damn thats a fuckload.

Bros i think even 40k is possible

>>12614398
>>12614398
>you could do that by comparing youtube hashtags
not really at least Some Really big clip channels use JP hashtags
example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkTe6CwQwgg

>>12614390
To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if both of them stays away from Minecraft for a while. Miko so far this month has 5/6 MC streams and pekora 4/6. This will probably affect Miko more then Pekora since pekora has the ability to turn almost anything into a decent ccv. It is however worth noting that Pekora has the Gen3 live this month, so she might be busy with that also.

>>12614512
Miko still has a school festival planned iirc, but who knows if that's going to go ahead or not.

>>12614512
Did they say something if it will have a free portion on YT? I hope it will be on Peko's Channel

>>12614466
It is, but it's also been a front loaded month with many minecraft streams for an event. Not that surprising really with the build up of hype. I think most of the girls have a higher amount of watch hours for these 6 days compared to many other months so far this year.. Or well, not Gura.

oh no...

Miko is farming today.

>>12614262
>I think Top10 of the day will be all Hololive
I don’t think there will be 10 Holo streams today; let alone over 10k

>>12614686
She is, thought she was going to have the after party tomorrow? Maybe this is just her cooling down.

>>12614603
Is that Cover CTO or some random blokes?

>>12614696
For now top 8 is covered by Hololive. Top 9/10 would be determined if Noel's shill stream eating food can get 20k or Mio's aftertalk can get 20k too. Of course, top 10 might be tainted if kuzuha started streaming apex.

>>12614696
if Mio and Kanata gets 20k+ on their MC streams later, then that'd be 10 20k+ MC holo streams today

>>12614696
Just check holodex, a few scheduled streams now, Many of them will probably just go above 10k by the sheer hype cooldown from the festiival.

>>12614790
Poor Kuzuha can't even claim a bronze today.
But Hey! He did get Gold the other day but it required him to suck Kanae's Dick

Miko 40k get

Will the Sports Fes buff everyone's numbers for at least a week?

>>12599582
Maybe. How does Youtube count the live viewer numbers again? If you can watch simultaneously and both of your views will be counted as a live viewer to the streams then it should be the main POV only. Otherwise it's cope.
>INB4 Nijinigger
T.holofan

>>12614957
I doubt it. The buff ends after the event is over imo unless you're doing an aftertalk.

The board activity was pretty insane during sportsfest. Its why I scratch my head when Vshoujofags and Nijifags say that /vt/ is becoming less and less of a Holo board. No none Holo event could ever push /vt/ to number 1 in terms of post/min.

>>12614957
Already buffed those two >>12614217

Sum of avg ccv over ~5h+ of sportsfes: 211k
that means about 1.13 million of watch hours live combined for them in one day. for comparison, Pekkers usually averages around 2.5 to 3 million in a month.

>>12614957
they could do coop games with their team tag, that could work

>>12614957
no, it will only be for a few hrs at most miko is doing a great job utilizing it