/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>12493350
Amen

>>12493350

>>12493350
Blessed thread and blessed vtubers.

>>12493350
>Tokino Sora
My rrat is that yagoo is also a christian and goes to the same church as sora or he used to work on sunday school which young sora attend.
Like how can two collage students convince yagoo to make hololive and go all in on vtuber market? Church nepotism, that's the answer.
That's how i got most of my past jobs during collage.

>>12493350
An idea for a channel came to mind the other day: irl nun VA channel. How does it sound? she would stream during Christian holidays, explain stuff about the holiday's origins and maybe give a prayer, then of course Sunday mass streams and choir singing streams, it could even become a group with multiple nuns, singing together and stuff. The voice actress should be a genuine irl nun with a lot of motivation and deep devotion, the younger the better.

Maybe in the schedule there could be Charity streams to fund some orphanage or medical research, stuff like that.

Thoughts?

>>12495543
I'd subscribe and become a member for sure.

>>12495543
I'd like to be producer for a channel like this some day. In addition to the previous post:
>latin lessons
>christian rock songs covers
>love songs covers
>chat streams
>christianity q&a streams

The channel name could be "St. Whateverishername Church Channel". The overall feel of the channel should be a bit casual because if it's too serious it won't be interesting, not transgressive just happy and a bit hype. It would be amazing if the channel were to get approved by the Vatican.

>>12495365
This is more likely than you think. Marine, Kanata and Noel all went to Catholic school.

>>12495543
Sounds amazing. We also need an Aquinas vtuber who teaches scholastic philosophy

>>12495543
Doesn't Abigail do something similar?

>>12496072
>Abigail
Yes but not very orthodox though, I had in mind something more "spiritual" tbqh.

>>12495984
source on the latter two?

>>12493350
God bless this thread.

>>12495365
makes sense for wealthy Japs

>>12504225
Based

>>12493350
Blessed but how do we know?

>>12511987
It's Athena and Abigail's niche, Ayamy straight up said, Sora sung Ave Maria

>>12493350
Are this girls actually Christian because you guys think any vtuber that even mentions the bible in a passing comment is Christian. Is pretty clear someone like Marine isn't Christian.

>>12495984
There's Catholic school in Japan?

>>12512666
Marines channel isn't linked there? Also Sora has sung Ave Maria and Amazing Grace and said they were nostalgic basically confirming that she was raised Christian at least

>>12512855
https://youtu.be/uHkYv9P751U

>>12493350
God is as real as your oshis virginity.

>>12513080

>>12513080
really makes me think

>>12513080
Well now I'm convinced that God exists.

>>12513080
Hey anon, have you considered that there is only so much that the human brain can perceive, and that there's only so much that man-made instruments can measure? Might be worth considering. I don't think it's the capital G Christian God either but there's certainly something out there.

>>12512666
If you believe Jesus is the son of God, you're a Christian? Isn't that complicated.

>>12513463
That’s called the ‘god of the gaps’

>>12512855
Yes, Christian missionaries started travelling to Japan hundreds of years ago. I went to high school in southeastern Oklahoma and my school had a Christian sister school in Ibaraki, strangely enough.

Sexualized digital avatars for God? Heckin based!!!

I love my pure christian girlfriend

>>12514169
it's funny because you could come up with a million examples of random atheists doing that exact face, whether they were regular people or celebrities but you would never find a christian doing the same expression on camera.

>>12493350
You need a high tolerance to autism to enjoy Athena

I wish there was a Catholic vtuber who would hold services. Tired of my mom making me go to Mass on Sundays.

>>12495984
Noel did not go to a Catholic school. Noel's family was dirt poor and she lived in the middle of nowhere.

Which vtubers are gods chosen people?

>>12516373

>>12515009
You can't receive the eucharist virtually

How many people here are real born-agains and how much are actually just tradcath LARPers?
Of course, a LARPer will deny he's LARPing so I doubt I'll get an answer here but it is definitely worth questioning.

>>12516373
Aki (((Rosenthal)))

>>12515009
Livestreams don't fulfill your Sunday obligation.
Also this>>12516873

>>12516890
I don't believe that type of larp exists.
Who's even coming in this thread acting Christian but making Christians look bad?
Only time you see Christian larp is actual falseflag shit.

>>12493350
Isn't Athena that 2view bitch who seethed at pokimane because she uses an avatar just once?

>>12516708
Pomu is anything but that..
>>12516373
Marine
Luna
Aki
Watame

>>12513806
If only my missionary friend had gotten me hooked up with a Christian chuuba

>>12517215
Also, don't forget that in her previous bio (when she had this clout with pokimane), she literally wrote "likes rw politics". Literally bringing fucking politics WHILE vtubing, not some previous life shit. You anons here should bring the righteous rage like the one you gave to Nina.

>>12517401
>like the one you gave to Nina.
That one was pure tribalism, nothing to do with keeping politicks out

>>12517401
But saying you like rw politics is taking a huge risk, putting your neck on the line. Pretty based.
Nothing like saying you support BLM.

>>12517401
Athena is based and has the right politics though.

>>12516890
Athena is an self-confessed autist, and a lot of her religion and politics stuff came of as /pol/ trad-LARPy to me, and like she only brought it up for the purpose of getting drama views. I honestly thought she quit vtubing like a year ago so I'm not caught up and have no idea if she's still doing the same kind of shit though

>>12517793
Its not a LARP if you pray

>>12516873
You can buy communion wafers online. And my mom has plenty of wine around the house.

>>12517019
Wrong. I know some parishes that did Sunday Mass through Zoom during the peak of the pandemic.

>>12516890
>>12517793
isn't it impossible to be a tradcath in the /pol/meme sense? considering Pope Francis' position on issues such as immigration or vaccines you'd have to abandon either papal authority or /pol/shit

>>12519126
According to Matthew 7:21 you're wrong. VERY Wrong.

>>12519850
Protestant detected.

Protestantism is the way, catholics are sinners who abuse the word of God, most catholic values were created to give a king power, you confess to a priest about your thoughts on the king and then he goes and warns the king of you. No man is more holy than another, the pope is just an old faggot who thinks he's hot shit, we will all go to heaven when we die since Jesus died for our sins, you do not need to eat some shitty cracker out of some old guys hand to go to heaven, catholicism is a cult, God didn't command any of their practices, they give Christians a bad name and are the cause of most atheists.

>>12495365
Literally blessed by God Himself, checks out

>>12521767
Holy shit you basically said what I have thought for YEARS!

>>12512855
The first foreign westerns to make contact with Japan were the portuguese. Portuguese presence in Japan continued for quite some time afterwards.

>>12495543
The issue with that is that you'd introduce idolfags to a church, which you obviously can imagine would cause problems and lots of weirdos with a very superficial pop horny understanding of christianity.

>>12515009
Go to church with your mom.

>>12519729
You can't be catholic in the /pol/meme sense but the pope can be wrong. Hell, the pope can even be corrupt, even evil.

>>12517747
this
>>12517401
you don't have to watch her you know?

>>12522389
They tend to be the most devoted Catholics anyway. Look at anime trad cath twitter

>>12495543
You're going to have to find a denomination that would be cool with this medium of reaching out to people. For example Catholic orders are notoriously inflexible and would probably regard this idea as some form of sacrilege, and the once that might agree are from completely cucked orders like the Jesuits. The other problem is that most nunneries are monastic and the kinds of women who go into convent rarely have the charisma for streaming. Your best bet is a missionary order since you can pitch it to the congregation as a modern form of mission since you can very easily show that the audience that consumes this kind of media have some kind of lacking that can be alleviated somewhat by spiritual guidance.

>>12514495

>>12525190
There was a Baptist Pastor Baptizing people in VR.

>>12525309
This is not the same thing and you know it. One is yelling, one is holding its mouth open for the camera. Are you really this dumb?

>>12525358
>bapkeks

>>12495984
The States may be different, but all the young people I know who went to Catholic school are atheists.
The boomers are still Christian, but hate Catholicism.

Based thread. But what's the source on Sora being Christian?

the real play here is to have a vtuber agency composed of the different sects. Have a tradcath, orthodox, protestant, and a zoomer sunday special atheist stereotype. They play games together and have somewhat serious theological discussions from time to time.

>>12493350
>not including jeanne d'sharc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhNR08Pkscc

>>12525358

Reminder

>>12495365
>Like how can two collage students
sora was in HS
don't trust rrats with flimsy "evidence"

>>12525358
>There was a Baptist Pastor Baptizing people in VR.
Abandoning sacramental theology was a mistake

>>12525762

>>12525762
I can't think of any notable philosopher in the past 2000 years who was an atheist. Only memes like Russel and Hume

>>12512855
>>12493350
My favourite rat

>>12512984
>said they were nostalgic basically confirming that she was raised Christian at least
Not really.
I know those songs but I've never been to church

>>12526915
you only know those songs. they're not NOSTALGIC to you. for Sora they're NOSTALGIC. NOSTALGIC you fuck.

>>12526136
Nice peer reviewed research you got there.

>>12526915
You know them but you wouldn't describe singing them as nostalgic unless you had sung them at Church in the past

>>12527021
Sora is a based satanist

>>12527074
>peer review
If you think "we" take the opinions of CIA funded institutions seriously, you're out of luck

>>12527074
>Peer Review
Go back to fucking reddit. You've done enough damage here, faggot.

>>12527074
>peer reviewed
lmao. I'll let you know when I value the opinion of blue haired landwhale academics

>>12526207
Then you didn't even bother google searching and I doubt you bother with philosophy in the first place.

>>12527021
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>12527113
I see your point and it is a good one. It makes more sense than just screaming NOSTALGIC but honestly, I could sing those songs and feel nostalgic about them.

>>12527074
Being a believer doesn't have much to do with being smart or not desu
There are smart people who are religious, there are stupid people who are idiots and vice versa

>>12493350
>Tokino Sora
Huh?

>>12495543
>irl nun VA channel
If she was an actual nun irl that would basically break her vows though

>>12493350
I don't watch her often, but should Sister Claire be on this list?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1zFJrfEKvCixhsjNSb1toQ

>>12511987
In Ayamy's case she straight up said she is a catholic and wants to visit La Sagrada Familia, not that surprising since she is korean which unlike Japan has actually a pretty decent amount of christians (around 40% if i remember correctly) i don't have a timestamp but it was during this stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFLbSk8xrhQ

>>12528358
You left out the part where she also says in that stream repeatedly that she is Catholic.

>>12516890
>Insults others for being degenerate, still faps
Still hypocritical, but if they are trying to quit they are better than people that just embrace the degeneracy

>>12528353
Nah, it is just her character she is not actually a christian, far from it

>>12528488
>In Ayamy's case she straight up said she is a catholic
?

>>12529128
Hm, disappointing. But good to know.

Everyone here is a bloody papist. Where are my based Orthodoxbros?

>>12529945
Is Evangelical good enough?

>>12495365
Church nepotism is a hell of a thing. Each small community exists sure, people that belong to different churches, races, colleges, etc... but church people look out for each other way more than others I've noticed.

>>12516890
I mean, I'm not a great Catholic but I still consider myself one.

>>12530302
>Orthodox

>>12493350
Is there actually any proof that Pekora is Catholic or is this some weird rrat?

>>12530848
Who's saying Pekora is Catholic?

>>12530970
People say that about Pekora a lot but there's absolutely no source or evidence of that except for people saying it without a source.

>>12530848
you confuse it, she's just based.

>>12531043
I've never heard that. Interesting.

>>12530970
A few months ago it was popular to say that her mom was religious, her brother was named Michael, and the reason PekoMiko was broken up was because Miko put out lesbian vibes and Pekora is homophobic. Add all that up and people claimed she was Catholic. Dunno if that's still the case.

>>12531439
what lesbian videos

>>12530760
Baptists are the original Orthodox

>>12531531
Vibes, not videos eslchama

>>12531874
Thank you anon, the bait was delicious. Here's your (you)

>>12531943
I read what I wanted to see I guess

>>12522327
Yeah, portuguese and spaniards tried to spread catholicism in Japan, but they ender being chased and executed idk where this new Christians wave came from

>>12532220
Is there a wave? Isn't it just descendants from when it opened up and the Church did what it always did, open up Churches and Hospitals and get people to convert?

>>12532220
>>12532386
I Mean christianism in Japan is slowly increasing, but it still an absolutely minimal fraction of the entire population, around 1%

Are pekoras brothers names actually micheal and diablo? I would assume she wouldnt dox herself like that but thats such an autistic lie/joke that I feel there has to be some truth to it

>>12517401
>>12517215
Based as fuck.

>>12517401
Based. I will now follow her.

>>12529945
Papist?
I'll have you know I am Protestant

I wish there were more vtubers who took on serious topics and discussed them. I remember when people had high hopes Mumei would be a history chuuba.

>>12529945
I can't stand Catholics

>>12542738
They hate us cause they ain't us

>>12542945
More like

>>12526824
i bereeb

>>12513560
The Devil also believes that. You're a Protestant aren't you? Might as well be a Wiccan.

>>12543142
>Catholic values were created to give the king power
>Literally the only reason Protestantism was adopted in many nations was that the Monarch could be the head of State and Church at the same time
???

>>12517401
i bet she hates gays and trannies
if so, based

>>12519341
You're a blasphemer who makes a mockery of God's Holy Mysteries.

>>12529945
Orthodox here. Am quite disgusted with some of the things I've read in this thread.

>>12543330
Catholic here can we be friends?

>>12543330
Orthodox are the based christians

Jay Dyer becoming a vtuber would be too powerful

>>12543250
>Those countries revoked kings rules
As you were saying?

>>12543374
I don't doubt the devotion of others, but your church is heretical.

>>12543805
Kings have divine mandate. See: kings of Israel.
No king = Satan rules.
One God. One Empire. One Emperor.

>>12493350
Super based. Reminder that the day of the reap of imminent.

>>12514369
Stop drawing porn Ayamy!!!!

>>12544347
You realize the double speak at play there right? Fucking pappists...

>>12544521
I'm not a papist, you moron. It's the Kingdom of Heaven, not the liberal democracy of Heaven. Thy Kingdom come, not Thy Republic come. The Church on earth is a model of God's Kingdom. Meaning that the default government of Christians is an absolute monarchy. Go cry and convert to Buddhism is this upsets you.

>>12543805
Who is the head of the Church of England? Church of Sweden? Church of Denmark?

>>12544421
Drawing porn is not a sin

I can't believe no one posted this yet

I'm not a Christian but in my opinion, Orthodox Christianity is what it says on the tin and Catholicism is Christianity with more ritual magic.

>>12521767

Pure cope, the successor of Peter is in charge because Jesus put him in charge.

>>12525762

lol that is the most retardedly poor line of best fit I've ever seen.

>>12517401
The problem with Ninas previous life isn't the fact that she talked about politics, it was the fact that she said everything is political and politics should be hamfisted into everything, which means including vtubers. That just reeks of subversion. Basically that's like saying that /pol/, reddit and resetera to be forcibly merged with /vt/.

>>12493350
Being Christian and specially Catholic is a huge positive in my book.

>>12543231
Aye sure, catholics are great, they aren't just sheepish idiots who let priests rape kids.

>>12495808
Anoj you might be onto something. Here there are schools run by nuns so a young nun becoming a vtuber with the intent of educating and spreading the word of god might actually be realizable

>>12495808
No rock music. That's from where this whole modern degeneracy took off

>>12543231
Based on the last 4 decades, it's clear where the devil lives.

>>12526824
Fucking kek I love Asian Jesus depictions/stories

>>12552010
Yeah, in men's hearts.

>>12556292
Nah mate.

>>12556330
Devil hands typed this post.

>>12543231
Yes, and the devil is wrong? Is he wrong to believe in Jesus and the one true god?
Come on mate. Remember that, especially in spiritual matters, you shouldn't judge other.

>>12556348
How about I dress up like a faggot and explain to you what the bible means, then you can pretend im not a mouthpiece of the devil.

>>12556403
It means it's a low bar for judging who is Christian and not. Empty declarations of faith mean nothing. If you don't understand Christ's nature, you might as well be praying to idols, because having incorrect Christology essentially means you make up a false Christ to worship i.e. an idol.
>>12556502
Never reply to me again, you repugnant Protestant hellseeker.

>>12556530
shut up you type like a faggot as well, dont come in here pretending to not be a cum guzzling freak under the guise of faith.

>>12556579
Don't come in here pretending to understand MY Bible, you tertiary.

>>12556590
You literally have it explained to you by actual peadophiles.

>>12556610
I'm Orthodox, you Protestant idolater.

>>12556645
>Orthodox
so commie tard shit and peadophilic.

>Catholics

>>12556530
>It means it's a low bar for judging who is Christian and not
Christian does not mean saved, you as a devout Christian should know that. But believing in Christ does make you a Christian, as that is what the world essentially means.

>If you don't understand Christ's nature, you might as well be praying to idols, because having incorrect Christology essentially means you make up a false Christ to worship i.e. an idol.

Again I will refrain from trying to preach you what I and my church consider right, but simply lacking knowledge is not sin unless you refuse the knowledge you when you are given. If you a wrong interpretation of jesus well...
Romans 2: 14-15
"For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another."

You might as well read the whole chapter it's a good one to put things in perspective.
Of course it is also written that not all who call Jesus lord will enter the reign of heaven, but that is not for you or me to decide it's for The Lord.
"Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things."
romans 2:1

>Thread full of angry Christian larpers
>Arguing about things that don't matter to most actual Christians
Every single time

>bro im not praying to saints bro, like no bro kneeling and pray...asking them is not the same bro

This is why talking about religion is banned on most of these Christian streamers, it turn into a shitfest over minor interpretational differences.

>>12504225
I didn't know she was this based.

>>12556797
Im sorry people are calling out catholic idolatry anon, i didn't know we weren't supoosed to talk about that.

>>12556963
thing is they are not -besides on clear shiposter- this whole autism was started because some anon say those who have a wrong conception of Jesus are comitting idolatry as a response so people saying some of these girls are true Christians.

I hate Catholics but I must admit, I love their aesthetics.
Also she's on hiatus but I think Maria Paradisia is meant to be christian-themed
https://twitter.com/mariaparadisia

>>12556759
Ok, which Christ do you believe in? The true Christ or the one of your interpretation? There is but one Christ and one Church. If you are not in Christ's Church then you are not a Christian. You are correct that ignorance isn't itself a sin, but if you call yourself a Christian and deny the theology of the Orthodox Church then it is no longer ignorance.
>>12556963
They are, and so are you, you Sola Scriptura heretic.
>>12557211
Why do Catholic nuns have twitter accounts?

>>12557237
The fucking Pope has a twitter account, and it wasn't a Francis thing either.
@Pontifex

>>12513387
amem brother

It's 500 years since Martin Luther, anyone unironically going to church is an NPC.
Maybe you'll earn a soul to start life with next time.

>>12557317
This. Read the Bible yourself and connect directly.

>>12512855
Hidden Catholics.

>>12557351
You don't have the hermeneutics of the Holy Tradition to be capable of such a thing. Point being, it didn't even exist for centuries and you think it's the sole thing that connects us to God? Delusional heretic.

>>12557237
>There is but one Christ and one Church. If you are not in Christ's Church then you are not a Christian
Yes there is one Christ but salvation is personal, the church won't save you. And your churches interpretation of what is right and wrong isn't necessarily right.
As an Orthodox Christian who turned your back on the Church directly created by Peter himself, you should be able to understand that churches are in the end humans institutions able to be corrupted by human sins and desires, be they what they may be.

>>12557455
You can't even express yourself correctly, you're clearly confused, if not outright brainwashed.
That's the type of thing that people might confuse as larp, because it makes christians look bad.

>>12557475
The Church is not a human institution, you blasphemer. It was created and headed by Christ Himself. Not Peter, not the Pope, Christ.

>>12557508
Just because you're a heretic who doesn't understand what hermeneutics means, doesn't mean I didn't express myself correctly. Yes, the Bible didn't exist, yes there is a Holy Tradition. These are related, as Christianity was taught by a line of disciples going back to the Apostles. They didn't just preach the Bible to us. Not only do you deny Christ by rejecting His Church, but you also blaspheme against the Holy Spirit if you think you can extract your own Truth out of the Scriptures. And you dare to call me a larper, you swine.

>>12557706
Nah you aren't expressing yourself, you're muttering words repeated by others but emotionally.
The fact you are choosing terms that cloak your ignorance is almost irrelevant.

>>12557351
Yet the bible commands us to go to church.

>>12557317
>>12557351
>Prot thinking

lmao

>>12557784
nonsense

>>12557743
>you aren't correct because you didn't come up with your own explanations like me, an enlightened person
The only ignorant one here is you. Oh right, you "connect directly", you don't need to understand the theology passed down by The Church through the Holy Spirit. Delusional heathen, you don't even believe in Communion.

>>12557706
If you truly believe so then you are a heretic for turning your back on the unbroken true Church of Saint Peter.

And if you truly believe so then the churches mistakes are Christs mistakes, and oh boy there have been a lot of mistakes even before the schism, where it would till be considered "your" church. And that is ignoring the shit the orthodox Church did.

but that is not what believe, and I think that deeming one another as pagans simply because of minor differences in interpretations, done not even by individual believers but third party theologians, directly goes against the direct teaching of Jesus.

The Church is needed to further your faith and understanding but salvation in itself is through Christ alone.
You are saved but Christianity as a concept of more than faith
it is about fellowship and community with people who will strengthen your faith and hold you accountable when you falter

>>12557809
“Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.” Hebrews 10:25
Though I advise you to read ALL of Hebrews to get the FULL context.

>>12557941
You're retarded, sucks to be you. Hope you weren't molested.

>>12557996
Yeah there's no command, no mention of location, no mention of structure.
Absolutely fuck all to do with churches.
You've had it read to you by faggots too often.

>>12558045
>No command
Maybe read it again? Though the Bible DOES say those that are unsaved will never understand the words of the scriptures, so maybe I'm wasting my time on someone who is merely pretending to be saved and doesn't want to admit God wants him to assemble with other believers.
>Absolutely fuck all to do with churches.
>he thinks "church" is a building
kek

>>12517220
sources?

>>12558101
Nah, spell it out for me. Where is the command.
Also I know you're not intelligent but structure and location also have nothing to do with a building.

>>12557954
The first to turn against the Church was the Pope.
>>12558019
>I'm not retarded, you are!
You "connect directly" to God, yet you don't even understand the point of The Church and Communion. God has not blessed you with intelligence.

>>12558146
oh boy you sure speak like a man after the truth. hahahahaha

>>12558190
>cognitive dissonance

>>12558210
>projection

Just had to answer the question instead of faking an emotion.
Nice cope.

Any Swedenborgian vtuber?

>>12558146
Acts 2:42-47

And they devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers. And awe[a] came upon every soul, and many wonders and signs were being done through the apostles. And all who believed were together and had all things in common. And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need. And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts, praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to their number day by day those who were being saved

>>12558308
Why are you even trying? This retard cannot be saved. Let him die with his papist pals.

>>12558308
You know what Acts is, right?

>>12558189
>The first to turn against the Church was the Pope.
You see how that would be theoretically impossible if the "church" wasn't somehow vulnerable to human sin? stop focusing on the institutions and focus on the teachings, because, once again, what saves isn't the church but the grace of Christ.
If the dogmas of the orthodox church were to somehow be changed (as they already were and you had your own schism because of it) would that invalidate all of it's other unchanged teachings? Or would it then make those who follow old dogmas the "true" church, and thereby ignoring the traditions and precepts set for centuries before?

>>12558348
Now THIS is a dick move. Disagreeing is fine, fighting over minutia of the written texts is fine (as long as it doesn't lead to sin) but trying to keep salvation from a possible lost soul is just plain old wrong.

>>12558417
I didn't have time to elaborate, but yes The Church is ran by humans who are vulnerable to Sin, but that does not change the fact that it was founded by Christ and headed by Him. The difference is that We look to Christ as our leader, not one bishop in particular and it is that which makes the Roman Church particularly susceptible to corruption, whereas the Orthodox Church is a consensus.
Please do point out what dogmas we have changed and what schisms we had? Because the key factor here is that heretical churches broke from us, including the Romans. Who gave us the understanding of The Trinity? The Orthodox Church. Who gave us the understanding of Christ's nature? The Orthodox Church. Who gave us the Bible? And it has done so through the Ecumenical Councils, the only legitimate authority for deciding dogma in the Church. The Orientals are in schism because their theology is not Orthodox, they believe that a 4th hypostasis appears with the Incarnation, while other minor disputes exist due to jurisdiction. Your framing posits the Church as a monolithic entity when the only monolithic thing about it is what is considered Orthodox, which has already been determined.

>>12558493
Yeah, but there is a difference between someone who's merely "lost" and someone who is legitimately hostile. Bible commands all Christians to hate with perfect hatred those that hate the Lord. Also says to avoid vain argumentation and know when to leave a person to his judgement. Try as you might till they start spitting venomous slurs at you, then it's not wrong to simply stop trying.

>>12558704
Exactly, you're an NPC who needs pedo priests to explain the bible

I am feeling that freaking Christian love bros.

>>12558872
I'm a catholic-raised ex-atheist who got saved by my Baptist brother through many, many arguments with him, but you can keep pretending to know anons on /vt/ if it makes you happy and prevents you from doing things you don't want to do(like attending church), anon.

>>12558872
You do not possess the Holy Spirit. Everything you say is poison. You are led by the nose by Satan and you don't even see it.

>>12558906
I do not love those who hate God.

>>12558955
Sure, everything you've written here is available to see faggot.

>>12559002
You have never even partaken in the Eucharist. You are a larper.

>>12558693
Oh you are an Oriental orthodox, I'm afraid I really don't know as much about you as I do about the ones I thought I was talking about the, Eastern orthodox church, so I would indeed be talking out of my ass. And this has gone too long already, for me to be talking out of my ass about things know much about.
I will just reply to this
> Your framing posits the Church as a monolithic entity
If there is only one true church that need to be the case. If such is not the case then you can call it the "Cristian church" and claim for certain that is the true church.
I will let my autism get the better of me and postulate that the roman catholic church wasn't the one who separated and that these main concepts, and the preservation of the biblical canon, were given to us by said Roman Catholic church but eeehhhh lets not fight anymore

>>12558945
Unless you were born atheist, all you're saying is that you're stupid and easily led.
>>12559062
you have definitely gargled cum

>>12559079
No I am not Oriental, how did you come to that conclusion? I'm Eastern Orthodox.

>>12558704
>David in Psalms says to hate with perfect hatred
>Jesus several times says to love your enemy
Glad to know the larper doesn't even value the words of Christ over a flawed human

>>12558998
You should love them. That is what Christ would do.

>>12559129
>The Orientals are in schism because their theology is not Orthodox, they believe that a 4th hypostasis appears with the Incarnation, while other minor disputes exist due to jurisdiction.
I read that as occidental, and there you have my mistake. As I said this has gone long and my brain is clearly tired and I won't be able to argue my points to the best of my ability any longer. So will just finish it here.

>>12559191
Glad to know the larper who doesn't go to church, never took Communion and is probably baiting doesn't make the distinction between his enemies and God's enemies.

>>12559264
I'm not the original anon you were responding to
I'm just sick of how hateful "internet Christians" are, arguing at each other trying to disguise it as saving souls
You are not saving anyone and you aren't bringing honor to the Lord

These 4chan deus vult dorks are something else.

>>12559341
Only God saves. And you first have to be in His Church. Of which there is only one, because the Holy Spirit isn't wrong and doesn't need thousands of churches. Those who blaspheme against God are contemptible.

>>12559448
To this guy, the church is his asshole and he wants us to enter it

>>12559482
You are not Christian.

>>12493350
I think Mumei mentioned something about having been part of a church choir, and she sang along to Amazing Grace when it appeared in her Minecraft BGM setlist.

>>12544347
>>12543250
Every many is the king of their own life and beliefs. No one needs a priest or pope to have a connection to god. It doesn't matter that Henry VIII had his own motives for backing Protestantism, it is still the best model for Christian worship and the closest to god without any mediators.
That said, if you prefer Orthodox or Catholicism more power to you

>>12559933
Nice

how many levels of irony and contrarianism got us a Christian vtuber general on 4chan?

>>12559507
If you say it enough, you might believe it.

>>12558295
Swedenborgism is pretty niche

>>12561141
You don't know anything, for you Christianity began in the 15th century. It's not about preference, it's about what is the Objective Truth. One God, One Church. You are not your own church. You do not communicate with God outside His Church. You are either deceiving yourself or have been deceived. You think you can just read the Bible and understand Christian faith? Ridiculous.
>>12563917
I already believe you aren't a Christian, and that you are incredibly stupid.

>>12525762
Non-g-loaded IQ difference. Nice tendentious understanding of IQ.

>>12564787
gay larp

>>12525762
>atheists are around the midwit zone
yep

>>12565606
Smart enough to get into pop science, not smart enough to understand Hegel. The life of a 105IQ atheist midwit

>>12495984
I thought Christianity was ultra rare in Japan?

>>12513806
I thought rurouni kenshin killed all the Christians

>>12565898
Among the commoners. 30% of Japans upper class are Christians, they've had 6 Christian Prime Ministers since the end of WW2

>>12557211
>Non binary nuns
what the fuck?

>>12566085
>Not-Japan

Who cares?

>>12526032
Sora is at least 31

>>12566085
Organized religion is as shit as ever if they allow non binary globohomos

>>12527074
>yeah my hippie professor gave it a once over so it's legit research

>>12566400
Why that age specifically?

>>12495365

Anon, Sora was in her late 20s when she joined Hololive...

God doesn’t exist.

>>12568950
No one cares what you think.

(You)‘s are my only savior.
Arigatou, heathens and hypocrite-tachi.

>>12521767
Wow that isn't even Protestantism at that point. The eucharist is incredibly important, and Christ literally tells us that without his body and blood, which is what is what you dismiss as merely a "cracker" we have no life in us.
t. Lutheran

>>12566085
I'm pretty sure the poster here is a brainlet who forgets that they is the plural 3rd person pronoun, and that she's talking about nuns in the plural, but still wants to pull a gotcha.

>>12495224
imagine the smell

>>12569805
NTA but I think the emphasis is on NEED. Also, get owned Lutheran!
t. Swedenborgian

>>12569020
I think it does concern a Christian that God doesn't exist.

>>12493350
if you were close to God you wouldn't be so attached to vtubers/anime

>>12573218
Correct. If you were truly close to got you would be rioting for black lives and dilating in between

Is Noel’s roommate showing off her tits in a slutty nun costume sacrilegious?

>>12550046
Orthodox and Catholics are basically the same except for 1 thing.

>>12568950
Then how do you exist? Just atoms out of nowhere, coincidentally and for no reason coming together?

>>12600812
im pretty sure they do believe it's coincidence lol, based on what some celebrity scientists i've seen say.

>>12586469
They aren't. We have different theology. The filioque is a big deal that diminishes The Father, for instance. We understand God differently, making a distinction between Essence and Energies, something that doesn't appear in any other Christian theology and is based on an understanding of Scripture and patristic texts.

>>12601337
The Orthodox Church schismed from the Catholic Church after they had two heretical Bishops of Constantinople, Nestorius and Photius. Afterwards they faded into irrelevancy as a punishment for their hubris. History has proven they were wrong.

>>12601942
Interesting take, however the Roman Church is openly a sham that flies the lgbt flag and is not taken seriously, while the Orthodox Church is gaining more adherents and more political influence every day. And your account of the Schism is wrong. Nestorius is an early heretic while there is no Photios besides Photios the Great of Constantinople, his reinstatement confirmed in the fourth council of Constantinople. You seem to lack actual knowledge of Church history.

I feel like God just wants me to kill myself

>>12603432

>>12604840
>set me free
What does this mean if not also dying?

>>12603432
It's not worth it. You probably still have the majority of your life left if I would have to guess

>>12606192
I do but it's gunna suck

>>12606581
How old are you? Serious question

>>12606655
27