/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

looks like they roughly hit the same numbers as last year so far combined.

about 55k-60k concurrent CCV for HoloEN.

>>12327527
Naw, it's like 20k off from last year but it's not a bad showing.
Bae, Irys, and Fauna all peaked in waiting room so the cull is real.

I never judge EN viewers too much because they definitely suffer worse from the Youtube change than JP.

>>12327527
last year was 78591 avg, right now 49913 according to holopoi

>>12328506
last year youtube still counted live viewers watching multiple povs multiple times on the ccvs

>>12328506
Right now it's at 55.6k.
It peaked at 57k a few minutes ago.

>>12328852
it is also one collab when you need to jump alot between povs

>>12328852
Watson over Amelia.

I feel like most Gura fans have Watson as their second choice, but only with special streams like these.

>>12328506
Gura is absent
It's the main reason why the total ccv is low

They could atleast had Kronii instead of Bae or Fauna as replacement for Gura.

>>12329084
Well, there's a reason Ame really wanted to disentangle herself from Gura, she really was getting shoved into the "Gura's sidekick" box and she really didn't want to fall into that. Understandable, no one really wants to be known as just an accessory to someone else and have their entire rep tied to that either.
Just glad Gura's got kouhai that don't have that issue since, y'know, kouhai instead of genmate. Diff. dynamic means that issue isn't anywhere near as big of an issue.

ghost stories time, people will tab out to listen-only now

>>12329461
Actually good for Gura not streaming, she has motion sick real bad.

Vshojo doing the same thing, 1 POV only tho

>>12329509
Ironic, since in fanfics, it's Ame's that's the protagonist and Gura's always the sidekick.

>>12329856
Why do you read fanfic, are you a woman

>>12329509
Gura got Kronii and Mumei as sidekicks now.
These 2 especially the clock make an effort to not be the New Top EN.
>Kronii on collabs posts her Stream Frame minutes before it starts while her collab partner had theirs hours ago
>Tries to not overlap with HoloEN especially Myth (even if it hurts her consistency)
>Kronii once said she have a game she wants to play but since Gura wants to play it, she's waiting for her to finish it first

>>12329789
>12k
Vshojofag, EXPLAIN.

>>12330311
no kino

>>12329910
Cuz I'm bored.

>>12329043
I just leave Fauna and Ina's POVs open. Its as difficult to listen to as the JP Among Us.

>>12329789
>Nyanners doing fornite dances in VRchat
>only 12k
Vshojo isn't really in the same level as HoloEN, but for 1 POV I expected at least 20k.
Really reminds you how far ahead HoloEN is in the west.

>>12322099
Can someone interpret these numbers and give a good spin? Like hypothetically speaking, imagine if a middle/upper manager had to report to the board and he doesn't want to be roasted/sacked because he spent several hundreds of thousands of dollars on this branch? Asking for a friend.

>>12331199
>in the west
Holofags are SEAfags

Does anyone have October's superchats?

>>12331219
Niji is going for a slow and steady approach. They are growing their own subculture that does not rely on forced growth like Hololive.

>>12331831
cope

>>12331886
I just answered his question man.

>>12331972
me too

>>12331219
>>12331219
Allow me to introduce you to
>volume
>slow and steady
>sub-culture
And most importantly
>merch
>>12331663
Time loop.
Still bigger.

>>12319653
>holo floored the daily top
>holo floored Halloween
>holo floored, even, the october average

>>12331831
kek, that’s a very good impression of the “slow and steady” anon

>>12331219
>several hundreds of thousands of dollars on this branch?
You're overestimating how much it costs to maintain NijiEN and in total, NijiEN has already made several hundred thousand in SC money.
This is disregarding sponsorship money and voice pack sales.
Make fun of midget all you want, but from a business POV, NijiEN is a success.
A failure that gets people fired would be NijiIN.

>>12331219
Just let Selen get deeper into the FPS/APEX crowd especially with the western side giving more attention to the JPs, like TSM liking tweets by JP corpos/going to community tourneys/etc.

>>12331219
We are laying the groundwork for the next Kuzuha.

>>12331219
Kek.
Sure why not, in bullet point form
Pros
-The best foreign branch thus far
-Selen is a breakout star, above many JP livers
-Now have a foothold in EN market that we didn't before
-SCs are good across the branch
Cons
-Debut timing was off, and putting wave 3 where we did, was a bit of a mistake since they were both too close to wave 2.
-Council from hololive likely did suck out some of the air of our sails, growth in further female waves needs to be re-evaluated

Suggestions:
-Future waves need to focus on recruiting talents that can help grow market share, just plundering from Indie scene has its limits
-Reconsider timeline for debuting new waves pending results from Wave 4

Can't hide the issues, best to frame them in a way that isn't too harsh but also doesn't completely sugarcoat.

>>12332168
This. If an overseas branch has to be cut down, it would be NijiKR excluding Bora.

>>12332190
She needs to learn Japanese first.

>>12332300
Is Bora in NijiKR a buff or a debuff for her?

>>12332168
How does that square up with only Selen merch being sold out so far?

>>12332168
Those ads, mvs, and songs from well known composers didn't come cheap.

>>12332426
Buff, she gets to count for less points in Apex tourneys due to being JSL

>>12331219
The numbers anon do s talking about

>>12332168
>hundred thousand in SC money
do they?

>>12331219
NijiEN reclining

Just woke up, how are holofags coping with the fact the King mogged their time to 1M record?

When I went to bed Kuzuha was 600k, four hours in. That surely didn’t slip, did it?

>>12331219
"We tried."

>>12332575
The numbers don't paint a great image when 9/10 of the branch is declining.

>>12332449
Pomu, Finana, and Elira's VC packs were all sold out.
Having a few duds isn't a major problem if you have a few stars.
Ironically, Anycolor is used to this already from their JP main branch lol.

>>12332480
It's literally 3 songs so far. Assuming they spent 15k on each song (very generous already), that's only 45k which most members already made back.

>>12332531
That stopped for Bora already anon. Even for the CR APEX team, only Zeder had the JSL handicap in the most recent tourney.

>>12332927
You really think mafymafu costs only $5k?

>>12332168
Niji IN was just an exploratory gesture toward a potential huge market that didn't pan out. I doubt they lost much money on it beyond the 3 models and maybe a tiny bit of advertising. Noor was probably the only actual staff and she got recycled into the main company.

>>12332829
>Wait for everyone else to cover Vampire before uploading his own to maximize boosting
>Tranny illustration gimmick
>Commissioned a Holomama to attract attention from Holofags and subtly leech from it
>Outfit reveal loses to a low tier fellow vampire's 3D, cover fails to beat Reflect despite all the buffs
Kuzuha should stand under the sun and accept his fate.

>>12333168
He's friends with Nijis

>>12332927
Finana didn’t, time expired before hers could sell out.

>>12332829
Stop with the bait holofag. You know how it went!!!!

>>12332927
>Having a few duds isn't a major problem if you have a few stars.
>Ironically, Anycolor is used to this already from their JP main branch lol.
I don’t know, having 3 “livers” carrying a 10 members branch seems a little taxing on the whole operation.
I’m not seeing them breaking even considering they have at very least the debut cost
>cost of models plus cost of rigging plus cost song production (massive) plus cost of ads (to take the song to 1M)
I assume their parents employees (including the girls) are drawing a salary so there is a set cost that I don’t think they made in SC plus voice packs

>>12332426
I'd say yes because she can't take part in some NijiJP stuff despite basically being a JP APEX chuuba. Even JP fans sometimes forget that she's KR.

>>12332590
Several hundred thousand in SCs might be an exaggeration, but there's no way Anycolor spent several hundred thousand on NijiEN anyways.

Selen: $69k
Pomu: $115k
Elira: $90k
Finana: $48k
Rosemi: $41k
Petra: $27k (oof)
This is not counting streamlabs which we won't even know anyways.

>>12333266
>subtly

>>12333417
Mafumafu has only done free shit for Fuwa, he and Soraru still made the other Nijis pay

>>12333484
>I don’t know, having 3 “livers” carrying a
Kuzuha carrying them deadweight of nijisanji JP on his back all by himself man!!

>>12333653
How can a fairy be this strong?

>>12333168
More prolific composers cost less than that and he is not even that famous of a composer.
He already has close ties with Nijisanji and given the opportunity to compose the debut song for Nijisanji's english branch is a opportunity for exposure for him.

>>12333856
Unironically, cancer saviorfagging

>>12333653
>but there's no way Anycolor spent several hundred thousand on NijiEN anyways.
just do your archive reps already

>>12333856
pity SC since she had breasts cancer

>>12333856
Saviorfaggotry over her surgery. It's happened though so who knows how her future SCs look.

I wasn't watching the Holloween EN Party since i'm busy.
But i checked their numbers, Bae and Fauna suddenly had a massive increase. What happened?

>>12330311
There is not much too explain. Hololive EN has a much bigger audience, a higher number of talents, more people participating and streaming in this event, youtube is just a bigger platform.

>>12333653
Okay, what abou the Susan tax and the part they have to give to the talent? They have to pay staff wages too.

>>12334028
They're doing a maze game so people are switching to their POVs from Ame's.

>>12333884
>is a opportunity for exposure for him
he's more known than all niji en together

>>12333969
Are you one of those retards that think ads for a week actually cost a hundred thousand?

>>12334112
Not for English speakers.

>>12333969
Archive reps for that fucktarded post that thought it cost 10k due to every single view being bought, ok

>>12332231
>-Future waves need to focus on recruiting talents that can help grow market share
how?

>>12333653
>>12333856
I won't compare her to Myth since they're too powerful
But IRyS and Kronii had much much less streams but still beat any of the NijiEN.

>12334214
yep it is the timelooper schizo again

>Ame peak beating Ina's
what happen takos?? i thought Ina is #2 ccv of holo myth

>>12334112
Not to the west and certainly not as a composer.
Connor has a much bigger following on youtube than Ironmouse, but associating with her increased his exposure to an audience that previously didn't know of his existence.

>>12333969
>Exposure
Don't be stupid, 90% of those views for the song probably won't even be bothered to click on the description to see who made it, much less give him any form of exposure
If he had even half a brain he would know that "paid by exposure from a midget foreign branch" is a ridiculously bad deal, friends with Nijis or not

>People actually thinking Mafumafu gained exposure from doing a song for NIJI EN

>>12334598
Connor interacts with Mouse on stream, Mafu is a footnote in the description of a video
You literally cannot compare the two

>>12334598
>bigger following
yet mousey mogs him in actual live views. His
"following" is mostly normalfags who at worst sub and fuck off, and at best only watch your 5 minutes meme clips instead of actual stream content.

>>12332168
People always underestimate costs. If the entire branch has the equivalent of 5 people working on it full time at 15/hr (literal fast food wages in a major city) that’s 150-200k/yr just in payroll expenses.

>>12334412
Be willing to take chances on those that aren't solely 'in' in the vtuber scene. Seriously, the scouting decisions are so transparent that this schizo board was able to nail almost to a T every Niji pre-debut except for Nina, and that's only because people didn't think they'd choose someone with such a....controversial set of opinions.
Better to try for wild-cards talent-wise. Sure you may get some duds but you may also strike gold, and really at this point you have to shoot for the stars.

>>12334048
And collab fees outside the branch on top of that.

>>12334741
Vtuberfags thinking their hobby is bigger than it really is.

>>12334917
*Smack*
Please stop it with this retarded rrat, its one of the more annoying rrats to spawn in the past few weeks.

>>12334741
they can't be this delusional

>>12334917
that is jsut a rat from nijien thread to bait falsflaggers that will comeback to bit them in their ass.

>>12335023
>weeks

>>12334915
Yeah, the guesses for Council before we heard their voices were all wrong except for Shachimu.

Even then, Shachimu was always one of the guesses when a new gen/wave is debuting, so it isn't an achievement at all.

>>12335023
It's funny since it is being applied to both sides and makes diehards from both sides seethe.

>>12330311
only mouse pov, not really advertised, debuffed by males on screen, VR chat collabs are a more frequent occurence with vshojo
these are my official copes but yeah it would obviously have a ton more views if more vshojos were streaming it

>>12334741
Thinking you'll gain exposure =/= actually getting exposure.
We're talking about when he sold the song to Anycolor, not what actually happened after the fact.

>>12335294
Only one POV is a buff.

>>12335174
>Shachimu was always one of the guesses when a new gen/wave is debuting
Literal free space on the bingo board

>>12335324
Yes yes you clearly know that he was gunning for that sweet EOP exposure that NIJISANJI has and not the fat paycheck for his work.

>>12335604
Not one said he did it for free, but thinking mafumafu can sell a song for 5k with his thin-ass resume as a composer is delusional.

>>12334877
You seem to misunderstand who is providing the source income for those payroll expenses. (Hint: Not AnyColor.)

>>12335174
I love how Kronii basically dox'd herself as S***, then everyone heard her voice and went "What?! That's not her! The voice doesn't match!" until it turns out that oh, she's a VA, and a decent one at that.

>>12334877
Good thing NijiEN doesn't work 8 hr shifts 5 days a week.
Actually, Anycolor doesn't even pay salary at all to their streamers.

>>12335999
Kronii deadass copy and pasted her debut slides from her previous life.
It was undeniable when even the order of her favourite anime and games were the same.

>>12335174
I remember people bringing up Fauna as an outside shot, especially since it was speculated they would go for an ASMR person. The rest no one really got. Bae graduated but she was so small no one realistically thought she'd get into Hololive (or even Niji EN).

>>12334877
>payroll
Nijisanji doesnt have that.

>>12335372
not necessarily, at least not in vshojo's case, I think the fanbases are more isolated from each other than in holo or niji
the average veibaefag for instance probably doesn't know and / or doesn't care about this collab

>>12336552
Staff has salaries (or hourly wages), not the talent

>>12336244
The streamers aren't the only people who work for the branch. There are other employees.

>>12335174
Fauna was between Hana Flores and ....... ASMR

Myth has a original song

>>12336948
Where?

>>12336948
It's a troll song but WTF Kaneru was the animator.
He actually made it.

>>12337446
remember me who is he?

>>12337328
Watch the stream lol, any POV

>>12337446
"Troll" isn't quite the word I'd use, but they were definitely focused on having fun with it more than being SUPER CEREAL about it.

>>12337567
https://www.youtube.com/user/kanauru
Ok my spelling of his name was completely wrong

Ok I will change my shitpost target since Myth's original has very good potential. Contrail faggots beware I will be very obnoxious

>>12337446
>>12337736
It's the BACKSTREET'S BACK of Hololive.

>>12336948
There goes whatever the kpop schizo is rambling about

>>12337741
good to see they are giving work and attention to their fans

Halloween mogging celebration

>>12338344
LETS GOOOOO!

>>12335999
That shit was cursed in comparison with her actual voice

>>12338273
They have always been doing that. The whole origin of this thing came from Walfie's original design

>>12338608
yeah, it's good they keep doing it

>>12338273
>>12338608
Ngl it probably has a lot to do with Cover doing jackshit for their talents so they have to go out and find people to help with their projects and Hololive is fortunate to have such talented fan content creators to choose from.

That entire EN stream was pure unconcentrated Kino and topped off with a banger of an original song. My lord, that was even better than the anniversary stream.

>>12338608
>>12338273
It's one of the ways they dominated the algorithm.

>>12338344
>hololive is isolated, they are not allowed to have fun

>>12338882

Fan content always have more soul than corporate content.

>>12338904
>better than the anniversary stream
I dunno about that. Still don't like Bae's soundboard and the shark/frog stuff went on abit too long and was too "normal? streamer stuff" for me. Still loved it, felt bad for Gura when she got sick.

>>12338882

But people complained when UMISEA was released.

What do people really want corpos to do?

>>12339244
I would've been fine with UMISEA if Ina's voice acting was better. Her reading her lines made all the animated shorts worse. She's acknowledged it so hopefully she gets better.

>>12339244
just them funds to do whatever shit. Let them write off shit as company expenses

>>12338344
Off topic but I like how simple and cute is Mumei's model

>>12339244
they are called contrarians

>>12339244
the only genuine dislike for umisea in my eyes was how the song was s generic idol song and I guess the poor voice acting but that wasn't helped with how gura and ina were told to record their lines by being given the scene already animated and having to match it.

>>12338882
What are you on about. Walfie's creation was cute. One of the girls thought it would be nice to have as a 2D chibi so they got it commissioned to have a 2D. These EN girls actually gets a lot of perks faster compared to HoloJP who waited far longer to get a 2D Alt. Their 2D alts that they had full control over. Some fans even thought that Cover wouldn't allow a 2D chibi but Cover apparently doesn't care. The only thing you can actually take gripe on is the fact they banned them from collabing with Coco.

>>12339606
Gura was actually fine. I think she could be an actual good EN loli dub VA. Better than any dubfags got currently. As for the song, generic idol song is fine if its good, this wasn't that great. Not as bad as Mio's animal sounds song but its definitely no Kirameki Rider or SSS.

>>12339419
Anon all the cool shit that they do on stream are paid in SCs. If you want Cover to fund anything then you are asking for the streamer to get a smaller cut of their SC or merch profit. I doubt the cost of even having these commissioned are worth to get your SC cut in half.

>>12339606
I really disliked the song myself.

Don't have much issues with the voice acting since Ina really is an amateur so I can easily forgive it, but they did overplay some jokes a bit too much.

But the UMISEA collabs were fine and cute. Doesn't feel really forced to me.

>>12338882
>Cover doing jackshit for their talents
Lol if their competitors are half as good as them, they wouldn't be as dominating as it is now. Nijisanji management for instance couldn't do a simple proper scheduling for the debuts which really hampered their expansion.

>>12339890
It's a meme song. Why are you comparing it to Kirameki Rider or SSS. If they do get an actual song then you bet your ass they are already doing concert for that.

Hololive/Nijisanji killer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAROgbQBxes
I kneel sony
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000002922.000013546.html

>>12338882
Cover's the only vtubing corpo to give their talents a salary.

It was small before, but I had no doubts that the girls were able to renegotiate better deals ever since they exploded in popularity.

After HoloEN's event, I came to watch what nijiEN had in plan and it was disappointing.

Somewhere clippers are having a collective orgasm as millions of views worth of clippable content just got dumped in their laps. Streams like this with all their scuff and technical glitches are still packed with great moments that are memable and clippable even more so than a slickly produced and performed 3D live.

>>12339977
Agreed, song was meh, too fucking busy. I know it's hard with 4 people, but there was a definite mismatch with getting Camilla to do the UmiSea song.
>>12339963
See: IRyS. She'll get a smaller cut for her original songs in return for Cover handling everything, so its both slower and cheaper. Contrast Calli+Suisei, who fund this shit mostly out of their own pocket but gain the flexibility and speed to release songs at a much faster pace + choose who they want to work with personally.
Its a fair trade-off IMO, but many anons probably can't conceive of or understand how things work in a corporate setting.

>>12340216
> male
Yea, Hololive will be fine.

>>12340216
>Sony
Too slow too late. I wonder what kind of faggot would watch a cooperate "I want this slice of pie too" jumpship chuuba.

>>12340216
Wait, is this sony?

alright back to numbers, total avg, 53147; a 25444 difference from last year.

>>12339606
>gura and ina were told to record their lines by being given the scene already animated and having to match it.
That's how it works in the anime industry though, so it wasn't surprising that it was done like that. It's somewhat harder for talent to pull it off, so when they do, it speaks volumes of how talented they are.

>>12340285
NijiEN management is really lazy at facilitating these kind of stuffs. Fortunately for them, other smaller agencies are much worse.

>>12339635
>collab ban with coco
which is also the right move imo.
despite the optics, the risk that EN fans might start some autistic flame war against the eventual bugs that would/might harrass whoever collabed with coco is too high
cover aren't experienced enough to gauge what their global fans might do in that event (unlike their jp fans, which are mostly calm) and what sort of bad PR can occur from that. Imagine if things blow up and mainstream news and/or YT political grifters decided to clickbait on the whole thing.
so they decided to be conservative and avoid the situation altogether, which I think is the wise move.

>>12340407
gura mentioned how it was pretty much all done and they were sent a version with a tts reading their lines for them to match to. unlike marine and aqua who likely could do it in person which would have made it easier to deliver better lines

>>12338904
that mv.... i.... i know this is the numbers thread.... but that had kino beyond numbers.... i am terrified at saying that....

>>12340314
We don't really know how much Irys is getting for being a Vsinger. It might be better than your regular mainstream record label singer but she definitely has more leniency in terms of handling her own brand image. Many labels won't even fucking let you handle that. Worst examples I know are Kpop music labels

>>12340216
Money they do have, but all the fancy bells and whistles in the world do jack shit if the chubbas they get aren't any good.
I'll wait and see. If they actually managed to nab some good talent then it's on, but I'm certainly not getting my hopes up given Sony's track record.

>>12340347
there's no male bro it's 5 girls. They're gunning for Holo market

Kuzuha's Vampire cover

1st hour: 145k
2nd hour: 245k (+100k)
3rd hour: 515k (+270k)
4th hour: 647k (+132k)
5th hour: 740k (+93k)
6th hour: 822k (+82k)
7th hour: 890k (+68k)
8th hour: 936k (+46k)
8h20m: 948k (+12k) (600 views/min; -21%)
8h40m: 957k (+9k) (450 views/min; -25%)
9h00m: 964k (+7k) (350 views/min; -22%)
9h20m: 970k (+6k) (300 views/min; -14%)
9h40m: 976.9k (+6.9k) (345 views/min; +15%)
10h00m: 981.1k (+4.2k) (210 views/min;-39%)
10h20m: 984.5k (+3.4k) (170 views/min;-19%)
10h40m: 987.6k (+3.1k) (155 views/min;-9%)
11h00m: 990.9k (+3.3k) (165 views/min;+3%)
11h20m: 994.9k (+4.0k) (200 views/min;+17%)
11h30m: 997.0k (+2.1k) (210 views/min;+5%)


Hours to 1 million views

Kuzuha - Vampire -> 11h44hm @ 210 view/minute

Gura - Reflect -> 10h29min
Caligula -> King 11h36m

>>12340734
good luck with that
they'll need it

>>12340216
Is this Sony's VEE project or another new project?

>>12340743
Don't rub it in again anon

>>12340216
>animated MV
Sony seem to be pulling all the stops.
Did they get Aniplex to do the MV?

>>12340743
Ah fuck, you've posted it. I thought we were free from it after blazing through a thread so quickly.

>>12340285
They need an Ame to make special events.

>>12340743
Is this the reason it is so quiet now?

>>12340743

>>12340561
>being reasonable
>using logic
>making sense
kill yourself, nigger

>>12340842
From Google translate of : https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000002922.000013546.htm

For the production team, "K-ON!" As an animation animation director / character design supervision. Yukiko Horiguchi, who was the character designer / animation director for "Lucky Star", participated in "Do you want Kaguya to tell you?" Akasaka Akasaka, the original author of "The Love Brain Battle of Geniuses", and other gorgeous production teams are also participating.

The first anime PV for "VERSEn" was produced by maxilla, who directed the opening video for "Fate / Grand Order -Absolute Demon Beast Front Babylonia-" and "Darling in the Franxx", and was produced on Friday, November 12th. ) Will be released on the official YouTube channel.
>>12340820
It's absolutely part of it, doesn't make sense why it wouldn't be given the amount of push behind it.

>>12340989
>Even the color is fitting
kek

>>12340216
so this is why kuzuha decided to go for tranny route, there's new sony backed male vtuber

>>12341025
Yeah, atm I'm in my online class, but I haven't seen a thread of VERSE or sony vtubers yet.

>>12341025
>https://verse-n.com/en/
>Through cross media contents such as live streaming, animation, music, illustrations, novels, and manga, we will weave a story of the past, present, and future of the VERSEn world together with you.
Sony want to try what Cover want to do

>>12341025
We will see if they actually do stream or if they turn into the Vsinger category like Kaf.

>>12340216
Nijisanji should be looking out for their music groups.

>>12340216
They're going all out
>"VERSEn" is a VTuber project that travels through a variety of stories, spinning the past, present, and future of the "VERSEn" world together with its users through a cross-media development of content including live streaming, animation, music, illustrations, novels, and manga.
getting scared for holo, Sony going for the weebs

>>12341365
lol. Good luck with that. Holo has years of content already on the algorithm.

A curious weeb who clicks on that isn't getting recommended these Sony vtubers, they're going to get recommended with Hololive clips.

>>12341025
holo alternative btfo, hololive mogged!!

>>12340216
>250 views
>2 hours ago

>>12340285
Not like if they planned something it would be any different, they're stuck with 6k~

>>12341293
Sounds like a good way to lose a lot of money if people end up not caring about your chuubas.

>>12341463
It will fail unless they manage to beat Holo's hold on the algo. Which they won't.

>>12341434
and sony has susan phone number, rip hololive

>>12341293
Probably not like Cover. Strawberry Prince by the looks of it.

>>12341365
another agency competing for the #2 spot, gl nijisanji

Monthly stats for hololive

>>12341498
Do we even know if they're going for EN audiences?
Because for JP, Nijis have a strong grasp on the algo as well seeing as they keep getting pushed by Youtube JP trending.

alright bros, Mori Original Songs in 30 minutes
will it beat kuzuha vampire cover to 1M? will it flop?

>>12341554
Does Strawberry Prince have LN or manga?

>>12341604
>Nakiri Ayame streamed exactly once in October

>>12341645
one thing for sure, Boogey Voxx will mog his original

Total for this year

>>12341645
She completely fucked the schedule for this song through the day and she will be streaming 1 hour after

>>12341485
>>12341437
>>12341497
>>12341498
Why are you guys stuck in Holo when Strawberry Prince are far more the likely the group that they will emulate? This is Sony Music.

>>12340406
interesting
Fauna and IRyS switch places in ccv and VOD views

>>12341666
She wanted to be #1 for once
>>12319653

>>12341779
Nobody watches strawberry prince here. They're not vtubers nor they are known to the global audience.

>>12341795
Because when they split up for the maze IRyS went with Ame and Ina, so she didn't get a CCV boost. But Bae and Fauna got a CCV boost on the split up because you had to go to one of them to see Council.

>>12340314
I loved the chorus for the UMISEA song. It was top notch idol shit. The rest of the song was a mess though. I have listened to it dozens of times though just for that chorus. Its so good.

>>12341645
doubt it. It will have jap lyrics because of BoogieVox

>>12341645
>will it beat kuzuha vampire cover to 1M?
No
>will it flop?
No

>>12341604
>Gura 70.3 hours

>>12340743
>8 minutes
oh nyo nyo nyo....

>>12341779
becasue they barely clasify as vtubers adn stream randomly

>>12341766
Watame brute forcing her way into the top 10

So how fast did Kuzuha's Vampire get to 1 mil? 9-10 hours?

>>12341843
They live stream. They play games. They tour. They sing. They have 3D. Much like Honeyworks. Honeyworks is also a good example but then again Sony is more adamant in giving them avatars to play with. But this whole thing will probably boil down to the same route. They will have them work with great composers. Live stream their performances and singing and them build a whole metaverse around them and shit. If you have money you can do those.

Today's superchats

>>12342150
Watame took a 3 day break after her concert and she felt the need to upload a VOD each day to remind her viewers she exists.
She's both addicted to streaming and quite terrified that people forget about her.
Easily top 5 most hardworking Holo.

>>12342136
>live streaming, animation, music, illustrations, novels, and manga.
Live streaming is like the first thing but not the only thing there. You can see that they listed everything else because you bet your ass they want some money from lore building or whatever from all of the music mvs that they will vomit.

>>12342084
>595 ccv loss to Mel
>8 minutes late to King GuraxMori

Subscribers

>>12342450
>somehow still dubbed as King
how?

>>12342450
King of second place....

>>12342663
Cause you can't call Gura king?

>>12342417
>>12342237
becasue they are considered first singing group rather than streamers.
>Live streaming is like the first thing but not the only thing ther
is the main appeal nowdays. The interaction of the streamer and the viewer trough an anime avatar. And trying to do a Kizunai AI style of content will just end up in extra unrewarded work in the ucrrent algorithm

>>12342450
Did he also got kicked out of October's top 10 by Mel? (which happens to be an vampire too)

>>12342742
>trying to do a Kizunai AI style
Well let's just hope that the execs aren't some old farts that only know the faintest idea about anime characters on the Youtubes. It's not like we haven't seen Sony of all companies be late to the party when it comes to trends or something.

Any calls for the numbers of the upcoming Myth or Trick MV?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAROgbQBxes
>those views
yeah better ramp up those ads or this is dead underwater

>>12342927
Yes

>>12342724
I can, and I will.

>>12342935
They have already ruined Kaguya Luna and 22/7, don’t get your hopes high.

>>12342944
20k at most but I don't think it'll get that much since KING only got a bit more than it.
It's been seen by over 50k people already so there's not much hype to watch it as it premieres.

>>12342050
>not included members streams
>not included collabs without POV
She easily got over 80 hours this month.

pretty fucked up that HoloEN fans would rather watch Amogus than that absolute kino of a stream.

>>12343118
Wait, so if someone quits from the group will everyone in their manga/light novel series just never reference them again?

>>12343168
Of course, but that's just the way these numbers are calculated.
>>12343234
You gotta understand that with how EN watchers work, if it isn't on their recommends there's a drastically lower chance they'll even fucking know its happening. Word gets around though, between clips and twitter etc, and we'll likely see vod growth over the next few days.

>>12342935
>the execs aren't some old farts that only know the faintest idea about anime characters
I hope they are so it flops.

>>12342205
10hours and 44minutes making it the 3rd most fastest vtuber song to reach a million views

Good for him since He really deserves to get achievements like this. But for his "fans" here in 4ch, i love the fact how they get humbled when it failed to beat reflect

>>12342287
King won big where it really matters then

>>12340989
Slippy g at it again hahaha!

>>12343234
>no Gura or Kronii POV
I mean, it was bound to happen.

>>12292099
>>12292701
>>12293000
>>12294367
>>12296898
>>12297900
>>12298570
>>12299127
>>12300784
>>12303677
>>12303822
>>12304945
Where were the EOPs when Japs and Seas went to sleep, EOPschizo?

Damn this is a great exposure for Boogey Voxx, crazy rap

>>12343897
holy grudges

>>12343234
Well to be fair, the Among Us collab was also fun.
But Yeah, this stream was more fun, i'm happy that Council made HoloEN very lively and its clear Myth enjoys being with them (especially Gura)

>>12343897
>eops

>>12344025
Holostars mogged holy shit

>>12344025
It's a good song.
1m in 7-10 days imo.
Premiere Peak of 8,332 is what I caught.

>>12343897
Can we stop summoning the schizo already. They will probably just respond with a slow and steady rant or something.

>>12343897
Stop whipping a dead body
LMAO

is Cover the underdog now that Sony is releasing their own vtubers? I know everyone loves a good underdog story. it is also interesting to see how much can Cover punch above their weight class considering their size of operations.

>>12343604
SC is the only metric that matters

Mori - Graveyard Shift
Premiere 8.1k
11k views right after the end

>>12344066
new cope

>>12344133
Rikka also collabed with Mori

>>12344307
no on Mori's channel so the algo reach was limited

>>12344307
In midget news, Pippa getting 270+ viewers on Twitch when she's a 2 digit streamer on Youtube.

>>12344307
Yeah and it was shit

>>12344215
Song is an absolute ear worm too so I can see it getting plenty of looping. Boogey Voxx has to be thrilled. Something like this is much better exposure than a collab stream especially since she linked the song they did on Boogey Voxx's channel at the end.

>>12344493
The studio version was shit. The live version is amazing.

>>12344201
I wouldn't say underdog but people will surely put them up as the more "authentic" group since they did start out from a 2view chuuba. This is like how Irys was getting criticized for essentially being the vocals for Omega's EP. But if the personalities behind the avatar are as charming or even better than some Holos, people will naturally give them a chance. They will probably appeal to the mainstream audience since this is Corpo funded. The possibility is there.

>>12344690
I will give my advance thanks to Sony as they spread on mainstream, the normies getting curious whose on competition and eventually find out about hololive

>>12344201
If Sony's project has legs (which I fucking doubt), we're headed into the established small business/local idols fight against corporate idols arc.

>>12344901
Sony has far more reaches than Cover. It will be interesting to see if a megacorporation can shake up the market or will a small indie company remain king.

As we've seen with pretty much every single example ever, trying to build a multiverse/universe straight off the launch of whatever it is doesn't work, you need years of pre-existing content and fan engagement to do it, Sony have a difficult task.

>>12343471
No, Sony retains at least some rights to use them and also has some kind of control over what you do with the avatar after leaving, I don't remember the specifics though.

>>12342150
>>12342411
Also dragged her average down from a massive amount of chatting and also doing content like FF9.

>>12344469
Yea. Good on them moving to Twitch, between YT's numberfuckery and Hololive dominance in the algo, Twitch is the way to go for new startups imo.

>Beware the gang that prevented Kuzuha from getting the record

>>12345206
I recall watching a stream of hers a month or so ago where she mentioned that the talents were all complaining about being on Youtube and wanted to go on Twitch.
This might help their case.
Tenma also gets over triple her usual views on Twitch compared to Youtube iirc.

>>12345449
Numberfags irl

>>12345459
>wanted to go on Twitch.
That's what # fags have been screaming for months honestly, Nijisanji should get that pie on Twitch

>people doomposting about Sony again
Are people here actually just newfags or did they forgot how stupid Sony Can be?

>>12345556
Accurate, i'm skinny as fuck
how would /jp/ look like though.. orca?

>>12345206
Yeah HL is super dominant on YT. I honestly think double dipping is probably the way to go if they're at least willing to throw up their own clips on YT.

>>12344947
>A normie likes the sony mainsteam chuuba. >Looks up other chuubas.
>Finds out Holos and Niji but gets blown away but the amount of content and shit.
>Dies inside the rabbit hole.
This is essentially what has been happening since last year. Maybe Sony can give it a bump.

>>12345634
Inaccurate, I'm fat

>>12345588
doomposting against a corpo is always welcome. I'd like to see what strats they use to get into the market. Ads, ads, ads maybe some collabs with low holos. Anime/manga/games because the trailer is well done even if it has less view. I'm pretty sure it's gonna be used as an ad targeted to Japan later.

>>12345179
In the past 2 weeks, Watame has done 5 SC readings.
That has to be a record right? She's reading every SC she got from her post-concert stream I think.

>>12345588
Nah, just wanting to see if they've right ship after their last fiasco (I doubt it but I always wait and see for these sorts of things)
>>12345562
NijiEN should have been on Twitch for sure, but they likely didn't want to go e up the EN YT market completely to Hololive.

>>12343897
I see no problem with the utaite comment, it's literally true utaite translators are also Chronoir fujos

>>12344201
It will be the equivalent of Tesla vs automotive giants who want to enter EV market.

>>12344201
>>12344947
>>12345050
Have you guys already forgotten the expose pmaru/luna did on Sony just a month ago? Kaguya Luna was the closest anyone ever came to dethroning kizuna Ai back in her prime, and Sony somehow managed to blow it, and considering the things she complained about were pretty much exactly the same issues Micheal Jackson was complaining about back in the nineties it doesn't seem like Sony is capable of learning the slightest bit from their failures

>>12345652
Try searching and watching a few clips about Ironmouse, you will get a lot of her and cdawgva on your recommendations

>>12344201
I wonder how fan-made shit will work with corpo vtubers like those backed by Sony.
Hololive really thrives with all the content creators in the fandom, Myth has been doing a good job at keeping them loyal by giving them attention and hiring them for projects.

>>12345588
if there's one thing that Sony has over Any/Cover, it is money. they aren't afraid to dump a buttload of cash to try to make their project work. how it will fare, that's a different story. you guys always joke about holo and niji is soulless but Sony's vtubing group could actually make the vtubing scene soulless.

Hololive Engish and HoloMyth are both trending right now. What power

>>12345872
>Elon
a meme
>yagoo
a meme, buy doogcoin

https://youtu.be/VupT9JCJaOY

Here we go

>>12345976
>Try searching and watching a few clips about Ironmouse
no

>>12346086
it will be fucking hilarious if this beats kuzuha's vampire to 1 mil but I really doubt that will happen.

>>12346189
It absolutely would if it was on Gura's channel, lol. It will still do very well though.

>>12345960
Never forget gamebu! They had hologra before hologra. At one point they are more popular than ai. They are is pretty much hololive before hololive lol.

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12300255
12303466
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12313904
Hahahahahahahahahahaha

>>12346354
Never count out old Japanese businessmen from fucking themselves over.

>>12346086
Songs dropping one after another, Calli's portfolio just gets longer

>>12346092
Give it a try, your YouTube account will be so cursed that will never say again that Hololive is super dominant on YT

>>12346354
>They are is pretty much hololive before hololive lol
Not really. They were very much traditional youtubers instead of streamers. They're animated skit stuff wasn't only copied by Holos either.

>>12346500
check their description, meta or tags. ironmouse in particular, shamelessly writing whatever relevant to hololive on her videos

>>12346458
The original song ranking video top 10 will literally just be songs that have Mori or Suisei at one point in the future

>>12346446
Why does Yagoo not fucking himself over though?

>>12343234
The Among Us collab was better imo. This was chaotic and fun but could actually use abit more order. Also, I didn't really care for them messing around with shark/frog/mushroom/etc models. Among Us, Devour and DBD definitely my favourite collabs for this month for HoloEN.

>>12346458
Ame's song, she paid for it

>>12346713
I'm sure that anon just meant song's Mori has worked on. She wrote the lyrics (and of course is one of the vocalists)

>>12340743
kek
You know what?
I will post this every thread

>>12346083
https://youtu.be/HqFfmUnSgVU
Well funny you should mention that

>>12342663
King is for males, Queen is for females
>>12342237
They're pre-Kizuna Ai so before the term vtubers but I dunno man, wtf is a vtuber anymore. Whats the difference between a JPG/PNG vtuber and a normal streamer who has an avatar like Corpse.

>>12345800
I'm more surprised she labeled it as an SC reading stream. I just assume any WTM late night JST stream becomes an SC reading stream

>>12343234
There's no Halloween or anything similar where I live so I didn't bother watching the collab

>>12346057
I'm just going to predict this because this is totally going to happen during the 2nd attempt of sony vtubing but I can't wait to see them have a breakout vtuber only to instantly kill its momentum by copyright striking clipper channels.

>>12346500
eh, I listen to clips of mousey sing from time to time and it did jack shit to my recommends. Hell I have fucking Jerma whom I've never watched show up before a single ironmouse video.

>>12347114
Oh lord, I can absolute imagine that happening, not realizing that without clips to boost visibility and catch people who may not always watch streams live...

>>12347114
If they didn't learn from Luna, I don't really have much hope for them.

>>12345075
>As we've seen with pretty much every single example ever, trying to build a multiverse/universe straight off the launch of whatever it is doesn't work, you need years of pre-existing content and fan engagement to do it, Sony have a difficult task.
It's DCEU vs Marvel all over again

>>12345812
NijiEN management are truly incompetent. They couldn't even figure out simple things like spacing out schedules to avoid conflicts with Holo events and among their members.

>>12346086
NijiEN should follow suit and ride the waves but I doubt they have creativity and talent for it.

>>12347583
If you just mean copying HoloEN with VRChat 3d and stuff like that, I'm not sure that would pay off. NijiEN needs to come up with their own exciting ideas, something that would make even a HoloEN fan say "Oh, I should check that out". Just adopting HoloEN ideas months later won't have that kind of hype.

>>12345075
It's a pretty ballsy move.
People considered it risky for Hololive and they already had a pre-established fanbase for the past few years.
Sony seems to be hoping that their vtubers become an instant success either through their own performance or their manga/anime/LN doing well.
>>12347583
Is there a creative person in NijiEN or are they mostly just streamers? I don't really watch them.
They would need to do things that Hololive hasn't already done or they would just be called copycats.

>>12347804
Even if they come up with something interesting people will still end up watching hololive because their brand is a massive debuff lmao

>>12346057
Yeah, that's the bit that is scary about this, Sony could burn several times the amount of money cover made last year on this project and it would barely register on their balance sheets. This is probably what Sony execs felt like when Microsoft threw their hat into the console market

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VupT9JCJaOY
>5 minutes opening sequence
The ultimate peak CCV numberfag experience

>>12347516
>restricting the talents' freedom to stream whenever they want
That's how you get unhappy streamers who decide to quit after being unable to produce any good and creative content due to the lack of freedom. See: Coco

>>12347995
I was flabbergasted. I hadn't realized the premiere timer was adjustable and allowed you to go higher than 2 minutes.

>>12347995
Nice move for CCV, it's steadily rising.

>>12347114
Yeah, I don't expect Sony to understand the meme dynamics and how to use it to their advantage. They will just hire some PR firm hacks and fuck it all up.
They already fucked it up by hiring 50 talents at once.

>>12347995
10k watching

https://livecounts.io/youtube-live-view-counter/VupT9JCJaOY
Myth or Treat live count

>>12348239
12.3k on my end right as the timer ended

>>12348285
And 15.4k at the end of the song

Legit question: How did Gura get her songs to those record time?
With Kuzuha, I can understand because his CCV is actually high so it makes sense, but Gura CCV is lower most of the time. Do her fans mostly watch her singing or something?

>>12347995
Got sent into Enna's stream right after it ends kek despite never watching NijiEN

Myth or treat
15.6k watching
20k views right after the end

>>12347516
From a fellow Holofag, how do you not know management has nothing to do with schedules?

>>12348419
Bots

>>12345960
>Kaguya Luna
>Michael Jackson
It's not really doing your argument any favours when you bring up extremely successful stars, even if that success is temporary, that made Sony a lot of money.

>>12348076
Oh look its the "creative freedom" cope, haven't seen that one around since lulu and Gibara came back as facecam streamers

>>12348419
>Legit question
>More than 3 times the subscriber counts
>>12348515
Oh I get it you wanted to samefag. Good job

>>12348419

This is cope ->>>12348515

The actual answer is that many of Gura's viewers just don't catch things live for one reason or another. Be it that they're clipwatchers, VOD viewers due to timezones, or just people that treat her as a nother youtuber instead of a streamer. Combine that with the fact that she IS known for her singing, and well, a new song is gonna be a "MUST WATCH" for those subbed to her, even if they don't catch it live.

>>12348566
And both of them would rather go out on their own than continue to work with Sony so go figure.

>>12348419
She has 3 million subs. Most of them obviously don't consistently watch hours long streams, but apparently a lot of them are willing to watch a 4 minute video that appears in their sub box. And from there the algorithm takes over.

>>12348454
if they dont 'manage' their products, they are a failure

>>12348599
creative freedom is a farce when all you can do with your creative freedom is play Apex all day or just continually be crass on YT until you get demonetized.

>>12344204
I thought Niji is all about them merch sales?

>>12348419
How 8k CCV Mori gets 10 millions views of songs, retard?

>>12348076
I checked some kson vod and honestly there is no "creative content". Unless if you considered the coomer content as "creative. Most of kson content imo can easily be done by Coco.

Meanwhile Enna just admitted to being a deadbeat on stream.
Pomu is a KFP and Elira is a nousagi, what else is there?

>>12348419
How Pekora's songs views so pathetic?

>>12347804
>>12347910
I mean just look at Vshojo. They do reaction streams about Holos all the time, make their own version of Holo memes, etc. As long as they have their own unique content like Selen's Apex collabs, it'll only expand their viewer base, not shrink it. I think it's about time for them to stop being in denial and just leech off of Holos' ideas considering most of their viewers are holofags too. Maybe this could be the key for getting a collab with the girls other than of course paying for it.

>>12348899
she can't sing

>>12348899
Pekora is not known for her singing, you cant count her.

>>12348864
Gotta earn the favor of the Holofags.
>>12348899
Not known for singing except her first cover.
Honestly her original is meh and her Cinderella cover is decent at best

>>12348844
She's literally doing a revamped Asacoco every morning now, which is what Cover explicitly wasn't letting her do.

https://www.youtube.com/c/ksonONAIR/videos

>>12348844
If you looked at her channel you should notice that she has a new morning show, which Hololive didn't let her do anymore.

>>12348864
Niji EN thread currently in meltdown

>>12348515
Oh nyo~
Seems like nijiniggers are coper than usual today

>>12348864
Literal Leeches,

>>12348864
Nina likes Holo EN a lot but I don't think she's specified which is her favorite.

>>12348419
If anything you should ask how a lazy ass twink vampire managed to line his buff properly to the point getting a bronze medal in 1M view race.

>>12348864
Mori is everybody oshi for lesser EN vtubers apparently

>>12349044
>>12349059
It's not they didn't allow her to do it, it's just she need to run it through management first, you know to avoid another hanging Kanata and Taiwan.

>>12348864
>>12349007
Great timing I said this last night >>12287372

>>12349067
Didn't even think of visiting that thread.
Pretty funny since a lot of them base their identity on hating Hololive but the NijiEN girls themselves are Holo fans as well.

>>12349087
>See>>12340743
You know the reason and so do I

https://youtu.be/VupT9JCJaOY
around 50k views after 20 minutes. Its on a pretty fast pace and this isn't even accounting for youtube throttling.

>>12349388
I think its going to be a monster.

1. Its short so its easy to loop a dozen times without realizing it.
2. People are going to watch it over and over again to catch all the references and cameos.

>>12349196
That's a technicality.
She essentially quit because she didn't want the red tape and constant supervision over every step in the process.
Coco/Kson is the type that puts her all in her creative content so telling her no or to cut things is basically slapping her in the face.

>>12346848
Seems like she's making a deliberate attempt to split them. Doesn't seem like she's doing them along with WNF any longer. I assume this might look better to YT since she's not dropping half her viewers in the middle of the vod?

>>12349465
Sure, but there is difference between "No you are not allowed to do Asacoco anymore" and "We will review it first to avoid potential yabs".

Enna's DCL Halloween ver is good btw.

>>12348691
Which hasn't harmed Sony any considering that people still sign up with their record label, so what they dislike is irrelevant.

>>12349196
If you want to make a daily news show, but every piece of news has to be run through upper management which is apparently a 3 day or so long process, then in essence you are not really allowed to make a daily news show.

And she did vaguely imply that she was just straight-up now allowed to do it in any form. She compared it to Haato's schizo arc videos which had recently been all privated. During her watchalong streams she frequently mentioned that Hololive members wouldn't be allowed to do that nowadays like every other skit.

>>12348864
Damn, Hlolive is literaly psy-ops their opponents rumao

>>12350295
Most of NijiEN and ENvtubers are Holofags and a lot of HoloJPs are Nijifags.
That's the power of first mover's advantage.
Look at how many Holos follow Kenmochi and Kuzuha. (Its almost all of them)

>>12349465
This is speculation on my part, but I get the feeling that she quit at least in part because the image of coco was getting irrecovably linked to anti China sentiment, and its hard to do business with that image even if you're not dealing with China directly.

>>12350843
>Look at how many Holos follow Kenmochi and Kuzuha
This is true for Kenmochi but not Kuzuha. I follow around 30 Holos and only gen 1 and gen 2 Holos have followed Kuzuha.

>>12350843
>a lot of HoloJPs are Nijifags.
More like idolbu fags

>>12351045
You're right, I saw Ollie and Mori follow him and assumed more did.
I should've named Honhima or Shiina instead.

Also when no one was paying attention, Kiara's Vampire reached 100k in 11 hours.
On track for the 150-200k prediction for 24 hours.

>>12350875
If we're getting into speculation then my coco rrat is that she finally realized she was actually harming the careers of her friends despite not having any good reason to be in hololive anymore. The restrictions over produced content that came in order to try and control coco's self admitted pushing of the boundaries and finding of loopholes were applied equally and that caused kanata to cancel her idol focused show she wanted to do. Remove herself, remove the reasons. Then the better negotiators in the company can slowly get management back on board, as evidenced by people like Marine.

>>12348864
>>12350843
Selen was a chumbud and exposed the guy who traced emotes for Gura

Huh thread appears to have died all of a sudden, did everyone go off to get drunk or something?

>>12351777
Not really much to talk about. NijiEN is having a relatively decent day? Mori picked up an easy 13.5k? We kind of blew our loads with the Silver King posting.

>>12351777
Its been a busy day in numberfag land with the Mel 3D, Kuzuha song, and the HoloEN Halloween collab. We are tired. Let us rest.

>>12351912
this
skipped sleeping last night and im feeling like hell at work right now

So can we agree that Miko and Kuzuha worked hard for their succes while Pekwhora just rode the wave?

>>12352448
No, get out

>>12351908
>relatively decent day

>>12352552
Jun is coming for you, cuck

>>12350843
The JP chuubas from before 2019 play by a way different ruleset than the ones post 2019. This is especially true for Holos.

hololive is gonna monopolize the clips/youtube algorithm these few days due to how many good streams there have been.

the recline is real.

>>12352981
There are currently around 31 clips of Among Us collab yesterday and 8 clips of HoloEN Halloween.

>>12353192
Isn't this because of there being more people now which weight the scale further down?

>>12351908
>>12352793
>NijiEN is having a relatively decent day?
They hit their max numbers today.
At one point, the overlapping streams were
Elira: 2.7k
Finana: 1.7k
Rosemi: 1.5k
Petra: 500
Reimu: 500
Millie: 500
which is around the 6-7k NijiEN gets at most.

From Holodex and Nijidex, there are around 112 Hololive clips and 11 Nijisanji clips in the past 24 hours.

>>12353300
It's just Nijisanji in general. Nijisanji is XBAWX HUUUUUUGE and they have more 2view shitters than Hololive has total members. These averages are never going to be representative of their actual popularity or success due to that. I'm a Holofag through and through and even I recognize that.

>>12353235
No its mostly because of koshien happening in August but don't let that get in the way of the shitposting

>>12353300
not really, it just means that there's no new people watching, everyone just moved from the old toys to the new ones
the graph would only go up if there was enough new people and viewers kept watching their old livers

>>12353384
sure

Will probably make top 10

It's the last day before rank reset. This day is normally good for apex vtubers as they try to reach Master. I could see Reid breaking 10k when he gets close to ranking up.

put up the october superchat chart already playboard you lazy bunch of gooks

https://youtu.be/TIgcVT4SfGw

I can't get over this song, its so good. I also couldn't be happier for Boogey Voxx. They have been grinding for a while and being the center piece on a channel with nearly 2 million subscribers and much larger reach even beyond that is probably something they never thought would happen to them. Mori also let them shine on this song. They aren't just background pieces, they are just as much a part of the song as Mori herself. Truly a special collab.

>>12353474
>>12353491
numbersmind

top 10 nijiEN videos of the month

>>12353595
and top 10 holoEN
only live streams

>>12352903
You're going to have to be more specific and descriptive than that because I have no idea what you're getting at.

>>12353595
5/10 has Selen in it

>>12353569
Jokes aside, He's been inclining hard ever since his ikemen debut.

>>12353634
9/10 Gura kek

>>12353192
>Slow and steady...dying

>>12353595
>11 hours stream
>only 255k views
Just sad…

>>12353692
well Gura was also on Mori's stream for hours too. kek

>>12353595
fun fact, Fauna alone mogs NijiEN top 10

>>12353677
his old avatar was kind of busted with the weird blinking, this is much better

https://twitter.com/Lain_Paterson/status/1455046235803422724
Lain trying to appeal to EOPs with an English stream... at 2am PST/5am EST
This ain't it.

>>12353384
>I'm a Holofag
Nice try nijinigger

>>12353595
>>12353741
>257 videos
>only 7 are above 100k
>4 of them are literally debut streams
>1 is the new gen announcement
can you do Sana? she only streamed like a week this month

>>12353781
She’s not pandering to them. You can’t pander to someone who isn’t even present, they just do it… for some reason, the chat is always full of Japanese.

>>12353743
Ture, I like his old model better even though it's obvious it was holding him back

>>12353830
she only had 7 streams this month

>>12353634
All of EN vtubing kneels to the shark cock