/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>12116685
Noted
>>12117697
I'm flattered you think so! (do you have the right person?) Thank you
>>12118333
I'm getting mixed signals here.

I think a major thing holding me back is being able to properly express gratitude. It's not like I'm not grateful I just have a hard time externalizing it without making it cheap.
I'm sure I'm not the only autist who's had this issue. Has anyone managed to just get over it though?

Can an iPad 2 be used with live2d?

are thre any essential obs plugins I need?

>>12139988
reverb plugin, atmosphere filter, usually free.

>>12138338
What do you mean by making it cheap? A sincere thank you should be fine.

>>12136304
What kind of numbers would you need to be well considered in the Phase Connect Gen 2 Auditions?
I wanted to apply but im just a 10 view chuuba so i feel unmotivated (i started streaming 2 weeks ago as well)

>>12141828
>i started streaming 2 weeks ago
This is a much bigger issue

>>12141828
unironically how underaged are you anon?
every agency is going to require you to cough up your identity and they are not going to hire a child

>>12141828
>What kind of numbers would you need to be well considered
20k subs on youtube or twitch
150 average viewers on your livestreams consistently for at least 2 months
regular streaming for at least 5 months

>>12141828
10 views after 2 weeks definitely isn't bad. Not what the company is looking for, but definitely not bad

>>12146090
Or they just shilled themselves here then it's completely normal.

>>12146120
It's a decent start, so that anon should just keep streaming, have fun, and build an audience. If you're streaming to "make it" you're going to have a bad time.

>>12147737
They should but 2 weeks is literally nothing and not possible to get viewer data off of.

>>12147792
Agreed. I wouldn't discourage them from sending an application, since that's experience in its own way, but I would set my expectations very very low, were I them.

Anyone know of a light touch robot voice modulator? I’m trying to do a cover of The Stand by the Protomen and the original has this little twinge of robot over the main voice that sounds really cool, but everything I can find online absolutely tears the voice apart.
I wanna reiterate that this isn’t for regular streaming use before I get yelled at.

>be characterfag/lorefag
>have friend I'm helping figure out vtubing though I myself haven't started yet
>he just wants to vtube and doesn't seem to care much for coming up with a character or using any lore
Would this make collabs awkward? Should I make my case for being a lorefag?

I would love to have something like genmates who help each other grow and collab every now and then.

but finding other small indies who are just starting out (so its not a leech situation) is kind of difficult...

>>12151643
That's just EQ and reverb I think?

>>12153914
>Would this make collabs awkward? Should I make my case for being a lorefag?
what is your collab going to be about?

>>12155344
Co-op games.

>>12155643
like what? A Way Out? It Takes Two? what kind of collab games are you looking at playing?

>>12155666
Yeah, things like that.
Maybe some 1v1 games as well.

>>12156245
tell me about your lore then. let's see if there's a way it can be fit into those games.

>>12156270
Current draft is
>god of death that got exiled for ruining an important assignment and is currently wandering earth looking for a new purpose

I was thinking of adding that it got disintegrated into electromagnetic waves as punishment and what was left crawled inside an abandoned android, to tie into my lifelong outbursts of idiocy while playing games and the light neonpunk aesthetic I wanted for my model, but I think that would be a bit too over the top. But then again, vtubers have come in all kinds of goofy over the top forms so that wouldn't even be the weirdest.

>>12156914
and how are you planning on tying that into the collab game, like A Way Out?

>>12147792
To the anon above I am 18 years old, turned 18 last month.
I spread my links on discord, reddit, (I didn't put my links here for good reasons) and mostly spread it out to my friends. My viewers are not friends however.
I think I've been a little rough on myself.. I didn't think 10 views would be good for 2 weeks.

>>12157003
You should just be focusing on consistency, keeping to a manageable schedule and enjoying streaming if you want to go corpo eventually. It's not just a pure numbers game

>>12157056
I'm completely aware of this and I do enjoy myself.
I've been brainwashed so much by numberfags that I assume my numbers equate to my performance, they certainly don't.
But it also isn't unnatural to desire some form of appreciation - If I am a shit streamer I'd like to know that I am a shit streamer.

>>12143573
Anon he said Phase Connect not Nijisanji

>>12143573
PC girls had none of these, try again

>>12156937
Now that you say it, I haven't thought of that yet because most of what I have been doing related to vtubing was looking for the programs I need, ways to make my model, coming up with ideas for skits, and games to play. Honestly, my current lore is up for up change because going through the games I like enough to stream some of them look kind of random to this theme, though this lore gives me a lot of room to do random things anyway.
For solo games my plan was to either act as if I was lording over the character in the game or trying things out to find a purpose, or both. Also talk about things like death, new beginnings, the circle of life.

Now, of the top of my head, I really can't come up with ways to interact in-character with a regular ass human without it seeming odd, kind of like a weird impotent fairy godparent, and since we've been hanging out for almost a decade now I feel like we could never pull off the "just meeting" atmosphere with ease. I'm actually a bit scared of him blurting out our IRL names to be desu.

>>12159189
then why are you trying to put in your own lore into video games if you don't know how to do it?

>>12153914
Yes. Lore is meaningless. It servers no purpose in the end besides filtering a majority of people because it's awkward and most Vtuber viewers just want a streamer with an anime avatar not a cartoon character.

>>12159185
They still don't

>>12159238
Same reason I started looking into vtubing, I like the idea.
I also carried a media project back when I was in college with my >acting years ago so maybe I could actually do it once I put my mind into it.

>>12159246
How come it works for japs and corpos then?
Like, obviously nobody actually believes Pekora is a princess from a land of rabbit people or that Nekomasu is a thousand years old fox goddess but it's some flavor hanging around at the back of their personalities.

>"you will never be a corpo"
I know but in essence, aren't indies and corpos the same at the end of the day?

>Yes.
Getting mixed signals here. Should I pitch him a character or leave it to his own?

>>12159910
>How come it works for japs and corpos then?
Different audiences entirely, the West just wants streamers with anime avatars. Look at the top all the way into the hundreds and tell me who's actually LARPing or using their lore for anything more than a framing device or themeing for their channel? Most people watching corpos are so ridiculously anti-Twitch that they've got to be their own audience entirely as well.

>but it's some flavor hanging around at the back of their personalities

There's a difference between LARPing a rabbit princess and making references once in a while to it. If you're at the point you're questioning whether or not streaming with someone would be awkward because of your lore/character, you're LARPing.

I was a bit harsh with how i said it, but as long as it's just being used to flavor things, it's fine. Constantly being in character vs saying things like "Sorry for the late stream, the Styx highway was jack packed." every so often are very, very different, the latter shouldn't impact collabs or anything at all.

Speaking of lore, how do you deal with having too much of it? I've been told that I should condense it down to a few main facts and a general personality/character, but a part of me doesn't want to part with what i've already thought of.

How shit of a timeslot is 14:00 GMT -3? I did my first (And as of now only) stream last Sunday at 20:00, the thing is that most days i'm busy at that time, so i could only stream on weekends if i kept it. I'm gonna do 1-2 hour streams (First one was 2 hours)

>>12161935
>how do you deal with having too much of it

By having less. Keep it private and reference it once in a while, you don't need a bunch of lore. Your job is to entertain, network, promote yourself, and create content. Lore is really only good for theming a channel and making callbacks to once in a while.

>>12162119
How much should be dumped onto your audience usually? Like in a debut or any introductions etc.

>>12162342
Again you're a streamer, not a LARPer.

Just self intro with "I'm blahblah Blahzuki. I'm a blah-blah that got bored of blah-blahing and decided to pick up streaming to blah-blah." and then callback to it once in a while.

>>12162606
Gotcha, i'll keep that in mind.

>>12161935
>how do you deal with having too much of it?
simple. get rid of it because no viewer will care.

Phase Connect auditions end soon. Anyone apply and hear back from them? Despite having some pretty big name artists on board for their 2nd gen I feel like their posts aren’t getting too much traction.

Good luck!

>>12161935
It's not relevant 99% of the time. You can have a repository of it if people are interested, but I don't know that it makes sense to work into your average streams.

>>12165455
So as I'm getting it, if I really want to keep the extras, keep it off stream? Since not many people really care if it's weeded in.

>>12166394
just get rid of it.

>>12166528
I'll work on it then.

>>12166654
why? just get rid of it.

>>12166654
What do you want your lore to do for you and how heavily do you plan to lean into kayfabe? Unless you're like Kongou and literally always heavily heavily in character, it's probably not relevant to whatever you're doing.

You can just write fiction, it doesn't have to be backstory for your chuuba identity. Hell, you could do lore writing streams if you really want to, but most viewers are not interested in the deep lore behind the streamers they watch.

>>12161935
I don't even remember my own lore

>>12166718
No I meant I would work on cutting it down, unclear wording there.

I got my png and don't know how to come up with a name on twitch. its been a while since I came up with a username

>>12166865
That's actually a good idea. With how I've thought of it so far, I might as well write a webcomic, lol.

>>12167335
>No I meant I would work on cutting it down, unclear wording there.
No, I meant get rid of it. Entirely. No unclear wording there. Just stop. No viewer will care about your OC lore. You're a streamer, not a cartoon character.

>>12167574
I meant I was being unclear, but point taken.

>>12167574
Anon...

>>12164095
Applied but nothing back yet

Felt like they didn't get much traction in their posts compared to Prism either

>>12168559
The CEO said on his Twitter that of the six spots they still have maybe 4 left… I’m taking this to mean that of all the applicants they’ve gotten there are only 2 so far they’re for sure taking?

Then again Prism didn’t really gain a lot of traction either until Gen 2-3

>>12170204
Yeah I follow Kevin. I saw the corpo account said to expect to hear within two weeks post deadline but if I don't hear within a few days of the 31st I'll assume the worst

>>12154475
Do you know any specific settings that would help? Googling around isn’t getting me anything good.

>>12172814
Low pass filter
Drop the low and high frequences (sub 250hz and above 1320hz) by a lot
Boost the mids
Play with echo and reverb.
Maybe lower the sample rate?

>>12173661
Alright, I’ll try that. Thanks.

>>12176202
I checked out the live version of the song and he doesn't seem to even bother with it so it might actually just be some sort of bit-crush plugin done during the studio mixing.

You could probably get something like that with the above though it wont be exact.

>start streaming
>unsure if I should use YT or Twitch
>find Twitch to be kinda shit
>People assure me it don't fucking matter
>start streaming on YT
>Wtf is wrong with you, why aren't you on Twitch?

You guys are usually supportive but sometimes you hurt my head.

>>12177713
no one cares what website you stream to, focus on your content.

>>12176916
Ooh, this can work. I’ll play around with this, thanks. Parameters for this bitcrusher plugin include Thermonuclear War and Love %. I have no idea what this means, why are audio mixers like this.

>>12177713
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akDHyKm7kk0
oh look, devin nash, the guy this thread loves to suck off so much even says to multistream to youtube, twitch and facebook, then figure out which is doing best for you. it doesn't matter, focus on your content.

>>12177730
>no one cares
idunno, maybe it's my luck but everytime I say I don't like Twitch there appears a guy screaming about how Twitch is the greatest streaming site to ever exist and an unmovable tech monolith and basically I'm an incel ngmi that should stop baiting.

>>12177713
>>12177730
They do, Twitch is the better platform for viewership and you can see this with the amount of indie successful on Twitch vs Youtube.

>>12178694
No one says that, they call you a retard for being paranoid about being banned by the Twitch boogeyman because you can't go 2 seconds without saying faggot or nigger and want to stream on DLive so you can spew obscenities.

It is objectively the better site for indie vtubers (and streamers in general) and if you don't want to use it it's perfectly fine people just think you're retarded for handicapping yourself when you're already within a niche.

>>12164095
which big name artists?

Anyone know if phase connect is easier or harder to get into than prism? Looking at the speculated girls who got into prism, none of them were "popular", but they seem to be bi- or multilingual and singers. I am neither of those things, but can retain 100+ viewers. I'm wondering if it's even worth trying if you don't have specific skills.

Is it good to be known for mostly playing certain genres of games? What if said genre has a relatively limited selection like horror?

>>12180844
Prism is probably a lot harder than Phase just because they've got a much higher baseline for talent

>>12180844
>they seem to be bi
Anon, all girls are bi, don't be silly

Being a vtuber is but a pipe dream if you can't even speak without slurring your words, right?

>>12182229
No but nobody will watch you.

>>12177979
>Multistreaming
Fuck Americans.
Nta but as an Aussie I am insulted.

>>12182733
Oh God. Being a self-taught ESL is a fucking curse.

maybe you guys can help

>>12182718

>>12183493
>Mexican
Doubt that would affect you unless you're somehow planning to apply for JP or ID
>tranny
If your voice is convincing it probably won't matter
>holofag
I don't see how being a fan of Hololive would negatively affect your chances of getting into Hololive
>no streaming experience at all
Big problem. AFAIK most Holomembers have were fairly experienced streamers prior to joining
>barely the necessary age to join
Probably won't be a problem
>english at middle level at max
Could possibly hurt your chances

>>12183689
>Most
Literally every single one apart from Calli and Moona who were famous singers who had done live concerts before.

>>12188698
That's why I didn't say "all," anon
Also Subaru as well I think

For playing retro games on stream, do you think it's best to keep the category as "retro" or to use the game-specific category, if there is one? I worry that the game specific category is so niche that fewer people will see it than the general retro tag.

>>12189795
What category?
Youtube bro

>>12191138
Nah, on Twitch.

>>12157003
>To the anon above I am 18 years old, turned 18 last month.
So you are still a dumb teenager. Try streaming to your friends first instead of looking for advice and validation from strangers.

>>12180844
if you can retain 100+ viewers, why bother with phase or prism? You'd probably be taking a paycut for less freedom

>>12189795
Retro. I don't think anyone looks for specific names, and if they are niche they may not even know the titles anyway.

>>12167422
I'll give you the same advice /asp/ gave me some time ago: At the end of the day it doesn't matter, just look at girl_dm, or if you want a male example, one of the top males is called Kitty McPancakes

>>12181074
Being a variety streamer means that the focus should be on your personality rather than the game, if your personality can't carry your streams, it's best to focus on a genre or even just a game. Also, horror games aren't really a limited selection if you expand to indie games

>>12181079
More like they have a retarded singing requirement for each talent but yeah Phase is likely an easier get

>>12192484
nta, but joining an established, even if it is a small, company gives you connections with significantly less, if not near 0 networking effort required on your part.

There's also merchandising, as well as (for prism anyway) a chance at getting a model that's drawn by a holomama

Following up on this even if nobody remembers; not that that's a bad thing since I've been doing video-editing reps for a month or so. I was the guy someone called foreign Venti (voice-wise) a while back, and I technically already have a PNG. More like 20, actually; I was planning to try to set up some way to swap them on the fly according to mood, and use the reactive PNG tech that a lot of chuubas bring out for collabs.
That part I'll figure out with reps, but there's a question. Should I define myself as babi or femboy? Saw the discussion revolving around >>12137915 , but it was never properly concluded. I'm trying to aim for a more wholesome, supportive atmosphere; probably inspired by Watame, if that helps any. Granted, I know content and personality factors a lot more, but I'd like to settle the score for myself at least.

>>12178694
it's 4chan, it's full of retards. next time they say shit tell them to post their numbers. it usually shuts them up. only exception are partners like Yozo who have come into /asp/ in the past to give advice who have the numbers to back up what they say.

>>12177730
Youtube is obnoxious to watch streams on since 99% of everyone else I watch is on twitch and it's a noticeably different viewing experience since it has built in 5 minute chat delay or whatever.

>>12198251
the delay is 15 seconds, but not unexpected from /asp/ retards who don't stream on youtube.

>>12198288
Might as well be 15 years.

>>12198327
i don't care what streaming platform you use. it's just retarded seeing /asp/ies talk about how they want to get big and audition for holos and shit, but at the same time turn around and start making up shit about streaming platforms.
>i can't say the ebin gamer words on twitch because i'm so fucking special Twitch is going to assign a human admin to watch me a 2view literally who male
>whatever the fuck you're spewing about nonexistent 5 minute chat delays

your content will make or break you. not the platform you stream on. if you're filtered out because everyone else you watch is on twitch, no one cares. you're irrelevant to viewer stats for youtube chuubas, so they shouldn't even listen to your bitching in the first place.

>>12198430
Nah you can't grow as an indie vtuber streaming only on youtube.

>>12198525
>Nah you can't grow as an indie vtuber streaming only on youtube.
this is true. you can't grow as an indie. instead you grow and go corporate like
>Gura
>Fauna
>Kronii
>Baelz
>Sana
>Pomu
>Elira
>Selen
>Petra
>Rosemi

>>12199125
If you're getting into vtubing with the plan of getting picked up by hololive you have bigger problems than figuring out what platform to stream on

>100+ posts and not a single image
Where are your designs dummies.

>>12199393
i'd rather not be associated with this cesspit. i only tolerate it because this is the only place actual discussion of chuubas occurs.

>>12183401
Don't worry anon, I'm a native english speaker and I still slur my words because that's what's most comfortable for me

>>12199319
>If you're getting into vtubing with the plan of getting picked up by hololive
the hilarious thing is how much you've missed the point and only looking at it from your narrow perspective. you were so close and went full retard at the end there.

pretty much every single one of those chuubas started on youtube creating good content. they enjoyed making the content and had fun. market forces and opportunity lined up for them to turn it into a paying career. but the point is that they focused on good content first. they just happened to pick youtube as the platform. they could have picked twitter like Finana or twitch like Watson and Nijisanji's Nina.

but the point is that the platform doesn't matter. the fact that you're making good content matters. so it always goes back to making good content regardless of platform.

>>12188863
Subaru is the exception that proves the rule

>>12199762
I wasn't implying otherwise

>>12199726
>market forces and opportunity lined up for them to turn it into a paying career
the ship has sailed. holomyth was the boat. even council can't reach their numbers and even then irys doesn't even manage to bridge that gap. it's even worse for nijis1 and 2, with Selen being the only exception because of her Apex credentials securing viewers from a very popular game.

better move is to focus on your craft and create good content. keeping your eyes open for the next social media phenomenon like vtubers to come out, then use your portfolio to hitch a ride on that to be part of the first generation.

>>12199726
Post your numbers

>>12200002
ouch so close

>if you want to make them shut up, demand they post numbers
>schizo goes off
>post numbers
>schizo immediately stops
sasuga...

>>12199393
I only have a bunch of images of characters with elements i like, picrel is biggest inspiration, but there's not that many pictures of him online

How much of a debuff is only using Twitter to follow other chuubas and do anouncements?

>>12182229
I've known multiple people who slur words and are very entertaining/funny.
I don't watch streams very frequently but I've seen a few girl streamers who slur their words somewhat often but they're still entertaining on top of having other skills.
Unless I literally cannot understand you I don't think it's THAT big of a debuff. Chase your dreams smelly balls.

>>12203578
>only
what other things were you planning on using?

>>12204105
Idk, i only made one for chuuba purposes, i have no idea what people tweet about, i've seen chuubas comission art of their characters but i don't really have the money to do that, maybe, definitely doing if i montetize. Also, if i ever get to the stage people make fanart of me i'd definitely retweet it, but it's silly to think about that when i still have so much to go before i reach such a point

>>12204631
*Definitely doing it if i ever monetize, i should really proofread my longer posts

>>12196570
Labeling yourself with a porn category won't bring in an audience looking for wholesomeness. Get rid of the labels altogether

>>12199502
Based

>>12199502
Cringe

>>12204864
>>12204938
The duality of /asp/

I've been streaming for a few months just for the heck of it but I didn't really make a debut stream because I don't know how people would find me without any content yet. How did you guys promote yourselves for your debut?

anon is right though.
>twitter
there is no discussion to be had. you join the circlejerk or just get ignored by everyone. plus you have a ton of vtweeters chiming in trying to derail conversation about chuubas and force you to say crap like "vtweeters are valid too!"
>discord
all the western chuuba discords i've been in have been nothing but hololive circlejerks. only one of them isn't a 24/7 circlejerk about hololive but even that one is useless. it's taken over by 3-4 of the most no live vtweeters who blogpost for hours on the server. and it quickly becomes a cult of personality. no actual chuuba discussion takes place.
>reddit
r/virtualyoutubers is hilariously pathetic. filled with literal whos just posting "i'm going live in 6 hours!" and whiteknight saviorfags spamming the subreddit with "this random JP chuuba is only 870 followers away from 900! please save them!!!!1!!1!"

>>12199502
are you actually streaming or are you still a tba

>>12205320
streaming

>>12199393
Opinions?

>>12205197
What anon? You do realize there's 129 replies by 36 IPs and most people don't want to look for who you are replying to?

>>12205789
context clues anon context clues see>>12199502

>>12205831
Thanks

>>12205592
Thats... kind of a lot of effort. What is going on

>>12206561
It's sonk the hegog
https://hub.vroid.com/en/characters/5456508765897369346/models/5327128924890811274
>Violence: YES
>Sexual acts: YES
>Corporate use: NO

>>12199393
I'm kinda reworking on it. Like, some time ago I posted it and received a lot of feedback about her outfit. Now I'm pushing her militar or merc side of the design. Critics and suggestions welcome.

>>12206941
i remember this. it looks exactly the same as the one you posted last time. i don't know what's changed. are you streaming or still working on your design like that /asp/cordfag spudz?

>>12199393
I'm not a good artist but i've been working on a concept for some days now
It's not good nor done but I like how it's taking shape, currently working on final concepts and linearts so I can move to the rigging
I'm giving it my all

>>12209101
I'm busy with irl stuff mostly college and working on comms for upgrading my laptop. Not so much time nor equipment for doing chuuba stuff honestly.

>>12209157
I like the scheme and her outfit. I think you can use a gradient that blends the red of her horns with the skin tone.

>>12209903
Thanks! I may try that
The concept was based on a folk mask, originally two, so some of the colors were way wackier early on hahaha
I'm still unsure about the skin tone to be honest

>>12209157
I do not like it senpai, pink and green are not colours that go well together, especially those shades. I would suggest paying for a character designer.

>>12210053
Thanks, I hope I can, eventually
I do have other layers with different colors for the hair and eyes and skin tones as I'm still not settled on the colors
I'm adamant when it comes to drills even tho I know they will be hellish to animate

Is there a way to do an unlisted stream on Twitch? I want to check if i can run a game and stream it at the same time

>>12205062
I had no experience in streaming, and only watched cute anime girls doing cute things with expensive models.
I started (still am) as a m*le png.
My first stream was preceded by a tweet saying "my PNG has been finished, guess it's time for my first stream? See you in an hour".

Obviously, nobody turned up.

My 'debut' was after hitting affiliate (six weeks, which isn't great, but could have been a lot worse). I did a long stream, paused the game after tutorial, and did a ten-minute 'about me/y character', then went back into the game.

Literally nobody cares that you're officer five million, three hundred and eighteen hundred thousand, and eight of the Inter-Universal Space Police. You're just a bloke from New Jersey behind a cartoon mask.

Start making content. Do clips. Highlight reels (if you've got a model, they don't work with a reactive png, you're too boring unless you're already a voice actor). Shill yourself on twitter and reddit. Shitpost, drop your png, follow-for-follow. Get eyes on you.

>>12211800
Enabling bandwidth test mode will make it so you aren't actually live on the site

>>12211536
Make a new account and stream with no category or tags. It'll be impossible for somebody to find the stream, and since it's a new account you won't have to worry about existing followers being notified

>>12211536
just stream, no one will find you.

>>12212184
Alright, thanks, will use an alt

i got my first raid today eeek so exciting

>>12159246
>>12162119
>>12163021
>>12167574
honest question, why is everyone here so anti-lore? i think it would be cool to watch a more lore-heavy vtuber, one that pushes the boundaries and does something a bit different with the vtubing/streaming medium in terms of storytelling, even if most of their streams are just the usual shit.

the only problem is i just havent seen a vtuber with interesting enough lore for me to care. but in theory i would enjoy that as long as the balance is right so its not intrusive on normal streams and collabs and stuff

if anything i think more viewers would actually care about lore if vtubers actually did more with it but its hard for anyone to care when theres not really much there besides like hi im a demon or a fantasy animal from another world that got transported here or some shit and decided to stream and play video games because ???

>>12214753
>honest question, why is everyone here so anti-lore?
because viewers legitimately do not care about some random no name streamer's personal OC and lore. and before you hlurf and blurf about Haachama's schizo arc lore, ask yourself how large her viewerbase was when she started it and how large your viewerbase is right now. it's a colossal waste of time and becomes an excuse for /asp/iefags to postpone actual streaming reps.

>>12214753
It's not "everyone here" it's viewers. What streamers do you see shilling lore all the time? Even the full-on kayfabers rarely do that. You don't think better people than you would've done it if anyone cared?

>if anything i think more viewers would actually care about lore if vtubers actually did more with it
people try and literally no one cares. No one at all cares whatsoever. a few randos might ask for it but the only people besides you who care about your lore is probably other vtubers who care too much about their lore

Lore does not matter and it brings nothing to your channel, actual content does. Viewers want you to play games, draw/game/sing/whatever your talent is, do the funny, chat with them (or other vtubers if you're good at it), and that's it.

I get people want to be *~*unique*~* but that's really not what anyone wants, they just want you to be another flavor of the same drink they've been drinking. Look at the top 10, 20, even 30 vtubers. Who is doing the lore BS? who is doing anything unique or special? It's all on your personality and personal skills, not your OC fanfic

>>12214753
>the only problem is i just havent seen a vtuber with interesting enough lore for me to care.
which currently successful livestreamer, vtuber or otherwise, do you actively follow right now who has >interesting enough lore for you to care about?

>>12209157
I think making the pink/purple lighter would make it have a better contrast. The green is too dark too but i am liking aside that.

Got commissioned to work on a friends vtube model, mind if i showed it and got some feedback?

>>12221081
is your friend okay with you posting it here?

>>12221160
Yeah shes cool with it

>>12221209
then go for it

>>12199393
see >>12199502 and also it's already a PNG I use on my accounts. If only the people from /here/ could swear not to break containment on me, then I could get some legitimate critique on my design.

>>12221235
Still not done with it, moving on towards the shading part, refining lines phase. But I raised the concern on whether her model would even be allowed to stream with catching a ban right off the bat due to how lewd the outfit she wanted seems to be. Think she would able to stream with this or get banned immediately?

>>12221445
>whether her model would even be allowed to stream with catching a ban right off the bat
chances are high that your friend will be a literal who for at least a month before someone notice and gives a shit. twitch's bans aren't automated when a channel is tiny, and most prudes won't even think to go dumpster diving. so it's likely not a hime hajime situation where it's hyped up and draws the attention of commerbrain twitch adminfags from the get go. but if you're still working on the art, play it safer with an "alt outfit" that just covers up the cleavage gap more. that way it doesn't interrupt your friend's streaming on the off chance she does get unlucky enough to be noticed and receive a suspension.

>>12221681
Gotcha, will do

>>12221681
>chances are high that your friend will be a literal who for at least a month
not including hime hajime, i've seen at least 3 or 4 people get banned at their debut, two with less than 50 people there. its more likely than you think

>>12221737
>i've seen at least 3 or 4 people get banned at their debut, two with less than 50 people there
i've not seen a single instance of this happen in the 150 debuts i've seen since March. the >less than 50 is a pretty huge fucking range and if you're hyping up a debut to double digits, some troll is going to try and fuck with you. if you just get started streaming without hyping up a debut on social media no one is going to notice for at least two weeks.

>>12215148
>>12218389
>>12218714
thats what im saying, none of them do. if you can point me to a 2view whos dropping some crazy cool shit but not getting anywhere because it only appeals to lorefags like me, then be my guest. but it reads to me like a cycle of "no vtuber good enough to make it work bothers with lore because of the perception that no viewers care > no viewers care because no vtuber good enough to make interesting lore actually does it"

if anything haachama's schizo arc is proof of concept. its not like it stopped her from doing her usual stuff of playing games and her deranged cooking bullshit or whatever, but when she dropped more lore stuff, everyone was talking about it. i never heard more buzz about haato than when she was doing her haachama shit. and it was an addition to her content, not supplanting the things most viewers are there to see. it also PERSONALLY made me more interested in watching her than i had been before.

by a lore heavy vtuber im not meaning they drop everything in the middle of a stream to shill lore bullshit when people are just there to watch a funny streamer play game, or fill up their schedule with lore shit instead of spending their time to make more accessible content. i just mean dropping lore videos as additional content, maybe the occasional lore stream, and giving their vtuber character more of a "character progression" - but like i said in my previous post - not in a way thats intrusive on normal content (or offputting to collab partners.) so its like having the option of watching a show in addition to regular vtuber content.

for a new streamer, this would also entail not letting lore shit distract you too much from making standard content, but it doesnt mean no one could do it. it just means have enough going for you to hook viewers in even if they dont care about lore before doing that, because for a literal who, lore is hardly a selling point. so yes, maybe that suggests waiting until you have an existing audience before you try to invest anything into lore, especially because youll already be stretched thin trying to make good enough content to gain that audience when youre just starting out, let alone adding "lore content" to your workload.

>>12221916
It's still not worth the risk, it only takes one or two people to fuck it up. It'll have to be fixed eventually anyway so might as well cover up the underboob now rather than later when it's already a problem.

>>12221984
ok. how about this. you shut the fuck up and go prove /asp/ wrong. there.

>>12221994
hmm any suggestions on what to cover it up with? she wanted an egyptian theme, so trying to stay on theme but i cant think of anything atm without just slapping some more fabric on

>>12222016
im saying this as a viewer, anon

>>12221984
no one cares about it but you're absolutely free to waste your time, we did all we can do to warn you. most viewers just want a personality, not a cartoon character. Lore gets dumped at debut then forgotten because it doesn't matter.

>>12199393
I'm going live in a few hours. Gonna play some SUPAH monkey ball.

Rn, though, mama needs a nap.

>>12222030
>but i cant think of anything atm without just slapping some more fabric on
just use the fabric. it doesn't have to be fancy, just enough to avoid a potential ban hammer from an sjw admin.

>>12222064
oh, so your opinions are literally worthless then. why didn't you open with that? go read a book and neck yourself if you care so much about lore.

>>12222030
iunno im not an artist

>>12222090
Hmm yeah maybe, gonna look up some cleopatra art and maybe get some ideas

>>12222117
No prob, thanks for the feedback anyway anon

>>12221445
head is waaay too thin. her proportions make her look like a bowling pin. it looks very odd
the pancake titties aren't flattering either

>>12222252
made the head wider, this better?

>>12222485
i would say it could be even a tiny bit wider, but it looks so much better already

>>12222090
i literally said "i think it would be cool to watch..." bro. not "i think it would be cool if i were..."
maybe i will go read a book, just to bask in how nice it is having the ability to read at all, because apparently that puts me above the curve here

>>12222081
thats why i said even for a vtuber that wants to be lore heavy that, practically speaking, they should prioritize and put the majority of their time into making good standard content for "most viewers" and get that down fucking pat before spending any effort on lore. work on the foundation before doing extra shit, literally the simplest principle.
but i think lore is fun and if any vtubers who were already making good content decided they wanted to do more lore as extra shit, i would be into it. maybe im an outlier, fucking sue me.

>>12222758
go back to /pol/ or better yet seek professional help

>>12221445
I think it'd look better shorter and wider

>>12223086
>

>>12222758
>lore heavy
Why not just write a comic book at that point?

>>12223126
>Make her thicker
You might be unto something

>>12221984
I actually had an idea along those lines, making a few animations with my model and releasing them on the same YT channel i'd post clips on to promote my Twitch

>why don't chuubas do lore heavy stuff?
https://twitter.com/ZylpheRenuis/status/1453987491325808644
here's a chuuba doing lore heavy stuff

>>12222084
Drop links

>>12223375
Thanks anon

>>12223292
i dunno dude, why try telling a story with any given medium? imagine it like an anime or something with a vtuber tie-in, or vice versa. being able to experience a character as part of a story and then be able to watch that character "exist" in real time and interact with it (in a somewhat detached impersonal way). furthermore, watching that story unfold and then seeing how the character is affected. thats how i see it

>>12223799
>no mic or any personality to perceive whatsoever
this is what i mean, even if their lore is amazing (i sure as hell cant tell from what they have on display) theyve failed the first part of making entertaining content

Argue for lore all you want, no one cares. It shows up for the debut/redebut then disappears completely.

Takahata owns a bar.
He's a bartender. He'll gives people "drinks" once in a while. Goes "behind the bar" for a gag or two. He's not talking about the lore behind himself or the bar. He's just a personality.

Randon is an orc. He's a businessman. He likes cycling. He's not talking about his waagh unga bunga ork boyz. He's just a personality.

Shxtou is some kind of sadboi ninja with a dead twin or something, I don't know because despite how nice the opening cutscene for his redebut is, it doesn't matter and will never come up again, because viewers do not care.

>why don't indie chuubas not invest a ton of time, money and effort into something there's zero demand for outside of literally a single schizo anon from /asp/?
>why are indie chuubas creating content that has a proven broader appeal to a wider audience base?
>why are indie streamers doing streamer things instead of writing a novel that rivals lord of the rings in universe building?
golly gee willickers anon, i don't know why that's the case

>>12224547
>why does anon keep repeating the same points and strawmanning me while not actually paying attention to what im saying?

>the "you're not paying attention to what i'm saying" card
you lorefags all have the same response every single time, don't you?

here he goes again

Fuck me guys, you need to chill. I already got the point about the lore myself, let's not keep looping this stuff. Honestly someone pointed out a good idea above, just make a separate thing if you want to write a damn story. Viewers aren't going to care on-stream.

PLEASE FUCK OFF ABOUT LORE. if you're a viewer, go neck yourself. you don't know how much work it takes to be a chuuba already without your retarded fantasies.

allow me to wrap this up by summarizing:
>a. create the content with broad appeal and get good at doing that FIRST.
>b. expend the effort on lore as SIDE content once you have a decent audience because, and only IF, you ***WANT*** to, irrespective of how much "demand" there is, because it wont sell you to anyone besides a small niche of people like me
>c. and under no circumstances let that lore get in the way of doing >a.
okay? i genuinely dont think theres a ton of disagreement here if youre not a fucking schizo.

>>12225345
no. you are wrong. there is no >b.
no one cares about lore. not even as side content.
>bb-b-b-b-b-but haachama
you're not fucking haachama

>>12225345
>b
So waste time and money and effort putting out content for like 6 dudes who care? Why? the time spent doing this could be spent putting out real, wide-appeal content

>>12225425
>irrespective of how much "demand" there is
that means "even if there is quite literally no one else that wants it besides the chuuba making it." if you have any further questions please re-refer to >c.
its almost like youre still not reading. please take your meds and dont reply to my posts again

>>12225607
once again >c. if you cant do lore shit without taking away from your normal content then dont no matter how enthusiastic you are about your oc

I mean if you have fun with it, do what you want. If you want growth, lore isn't bringing you anywhere.

>>12225713
>I mean if you have fun with it, do what you want.
then just go and do it instead of shitting up this thread for the hundredth time

>>12226204
look how many shit posts in this thread wouldnt have been made if it werent for you

look at how little spam there would be if lorefags necked themselves

>>12209157
I like it.

>>12223940
https://youtu.be/BJe4yVEE-jY

Twitter: @MsAbigailCM

>>12222090
Took your advice and used the fabric, think this should be enough to avoid any potential banhammers? Obv still a WIP

>>12227506
Should be safe from bans but the boobs still look a little saggy for lack of a better term.

>>12227059
oh god why is it buffering so hard help im old

>>12230173
your computer is too bad to stream and play a game probably

I've been told I need to fill dead air more and find interesting things to talk about, and I agree, but I have no idea what people would find interesting for me to talk about. Any tips or ideas?

>>12235266
>but I have no idea what people would find interesting for me to talk about. Any tips or ideas?
it doesn't have to be interesting, you just need to fill that time with something.

What amount of views is considered good on your audition video? I got 3 (not counting mine) and I uploaded it yesterday. Goodluck to everyone!

>>12236992
views mean nothing until you get the email

>>12230736
I had to turn down the settings on the capture card. This is a pretty new pc.

Kind of glad I have single digit viewers because I still dunno wtf I'm doing.

I have put aside 415€ for my vtuber in total.

-275€ live2d design + model art
-20€ mouse

anything else I should invest into?
I can do my own rigging so there's no need to put aside money for a rigger.

I don't think I need any hardware besides the mouse but I already have:

-recently upgraded pc (xt 6800, 16GB ram, ryzen 5 5600)
-audio: shure mv7+ steinberg UR24C
-2 monitors
-nintendo switch + capture card + controller

I want to become someone's oshi! let's work hard!

how do I stop bumping my fucking mic stand

>>12240437
Gambare anon!

>>12240568
Move it a bit further away

How do y'all usually do layouts when only recording stuff? I'm torn between having my model or not for recorded stuff since I'm not sure how much it will add for pre-recorded content that I plan on writing scripts for.

I want to switch to focusing on recording and editing until I can stabilize my schedule.

My current plan is write/record/edit across 2 or 3 days (in various mixes depending on workload), stream 2 to 3 days a week.

>>12242856
Just the game and the model in the same place it'd be on stream (More often than not, bottom right)

Is it weird to start considering yourself cute (at least behind a model?) I've been looking over my VODs and I keep getting this "aw I wanna hug you" feeling towards my character

>>12245308
It's weird in the sense that most people tend to have negative feelings towards things they make, but it's definitely not a bad mindset to have

Anyone familiar with multistreaming?

I found Restream looking into options but is there any others? The watermark in the free version kinda bothers me.

>>12245308
Now you understand what being a viewer is like

>>12247000
>>12245308
The first chuuba to goose for themselves.

>>12247903
Don't say yes if you can't say no
Victim of the system say it isn't so

>>12240018
You obviously know what you're doing but I'm still gonna say this just because I don't see it listed. You got a camera to use for vtubing right?

ya

female chuubas can be lewd moan say ara ara and talk about wireless eggs to get tons of clips. what would be the equivalent for males?

>>12253576
m*les shouldn't make sex jokes cause they'll be called sex pests, perverts, sexual harassers

>>12253698
so if males have to avoid the topic of sex, what can they take about that's easily clipped. outside of retarded overexaggerated rage screaming and smooth brain ape tier shouting?

>>12253737
You answered yourself Anon.

It comes down to why people watch male streamers vs why they want female streamers. You could always be a sex pest and try end up on Vcringe

>>12253576
women = sex
men = retard
if your charisma is naturally retarded i think people would want to watch you
but not autism levels of retarded or else you just seem weird rather than appealing

>>12257927
Not a chuuba, but i feel that Anomaly is a great example of the levels of autism males should target

Are achievement hunting streams a debuff or a buff?

Shot in the dark but has anyone gotten any email correspondence from Phase Connect auditions? I didn't even get a form complete email

>>12258264
Did you double check that there were no spelling error?

>>12258475
Yeah I am absolutely certain it was filled out correctly

>his design is a 2edgy4u dark and evil entity that hides behind a mask

>>12258264
I didn't get a form complete email either...

>>12258588
Tell me about Bane, why does he wear the mask?

>>12209157
Nice drills

>>12258264
From what I can tell they did not enable the “this is the information we received on your form” email confirmation on their applications, since nobody I’ve talked to has gotten one either. I think the only thing you will be waiting for is the “we would like to interview you” email straight from them

>>12258264
Did you get any unique views on your video?

>>12253698
>they'll be called sex pests, perverts, sexual harassers
Only if they're ugly. Since you have a sexy voice and a handsome anime avatar, it's fine. You DO have those, right, anon?

>>12136304
its been 3 days and phase connect hasnt replied to my audition yet, im pretty sure i entered my email and socials so have they just dropped me? lol

>>12263911
nm just looked up

am I too old to be a chuuba? since I’m male I don’t get the hag rrats I would instead get weirdo pedo rrats or something. I am almost 40.

>>12264344
https://www.techtimes.com/articles/257724/20210305/tiktok-video-goes-viral-for-featuring-a-grandma-who-plays-call-of-duty.htm
rrats are meaningless, ignore them.

>>12263911
Oh this makes me feel better though thanks anon. Same boat....

>>12262069
Yes as of two/ three days ago since I last checked

>>12264344
If you have an older sexy man voice then all the better too

A lot of the male chuuba sphere are femboys and gamer bros so if you can fill that mature manly man niche then why the hell not

setting up a discord server. help me anons, how the fuck do i do this safely so i don't get a discord flooded with bots and spam? are there any guides? i don't know which guides are trustworthy.

what should i include in my audition video hmm

>>12264344
Go for a DILF type avatar, borderline bara would work too hmmm it depends on your personality, tho

>>12264344
post a vocaroo. let's hear your voice.

>>12164095
Phase Connect is sketchy as fuck but I love the amount of interaction between the company, girls, and fans. Really one of the most fun outfits to follow.

Received my first ever fanart today and I've been crying over it for like 10 mins... feels good

>>12267823
Can I ask what makes them sketchy?
I’m sure a lot of other anons who have applied for them would probably like to know too lest we get a repeat of what’s going on with Prism’s wave 4

>>12267823
What makes it sketchy? they seem the most legit next to Prism if anything

Why you losers dont form your own circle?

future pngtuber here. how do i make my avatar do a little skip and light up when i talk?

>>12272981
it's built into the discord reactive images trick. both the default one and the fugi tech one.

>>12272418
Because it's a lot harder to do than you think. You need a lot of organization and synergy, you cant just slap a few people together.

>>12272418
I agree that its the right way to go but then again, would you really want to team up with random schitzos from /vt/?

How can I capitalize on the recent crypto trend and make the world's first NFTuber?

>>12274529
Make a vtuber whose sole content is covering crypto/stocks. Just be prepared to get assraped by susan once you get painted as some sorta conman trying to appeal to kids due to the vtuber avatar

>>12274529
you didnt even bother googling NFT vtuber did you? that being said it wouldnt matter, no one likes NFTs

>>12274734
That's fine, I'll build my audience on YouTube, then once I inevitably get banned I'll use the attention and outrage to announce my blockchain-based streaming service

Does the PC audition end in a few minutes or tomorrow?

Bump

>>12274529
>>12274734
you niggers reminded me of that vtuber token with NFT support and shit
nobody posts about it anymore because the shills got banned

>>12272418
What is Yokomeshi?

>>12283235
Experienced and successful Friends/Associates forming their own group is not the same some rando pre-debut nobodies forming a group

>>12272418
isn't that basically what the /asp/cord was

>>12283228
The what

>>12286118
https://twitter.com/comfytoken?lang=en
https://vtubetoken.moe/
these two that never went anywhere

>>12268111
congrats anon! post it

I don't know what I want to do on the first stream.
I have ideas for what games I want to play and when, but it feels like I'm going on my first day to a new school and it just so happens to be a show and tell day too. Feels like I want people to know me a bit before I start playing games I like.
I know I shouldn't think like this at all but I'm getting caught up on it now that the model is going to be finished soon.

>>12288655
I'd say just stream and rip the bandage off. If you wanna do a little self-introduction, it probably wouldn't hurt.

>>12288655
just stream no one is going to watch you

>>12289012
if only this was true in my case

>>12289043
then say "hey chat, i'm x vtuber" and start streaming. no one is going to care.

>>12288655
Pick up a game you really enjoy. Play it. If someone enters your stream, say hi. Your followers can learn about you over time, like discovering a new land, but it's different sides/stories from the same person

why is streaming so easy but recording an audition so hard? i feel like i can completely be myself easily while streaming. but recording just feels so fake and forced like i'm trying too hard, i hate it kek

>>12287400
yeah the second one
I found them funny and joined their telegram. Feels more like a shitpost group that just happens to have a pet meme token.

I want to upgrade my mic, and I thought of getting ElGato Wave1, would you recommend it? Or should I search for something better? I am worried people say it's REALLY sensitive and some are facing issues in videogames (because of app?). TWT My keyboard is rather loud, especially with me typing incredibly fast... Not too sure what to do... I like the sound quality a lot.

Let's say I suddenly want to be a vTuber. But for the most part I already have an account on stuff like Youtube or Twitter, haven't made any major content though, just maybe a few drawings here and there. Just a internet dweller who likes and follows a bunch of stuff.

Would it be better for me to still just start on a new account/persona? Or would it be alright to just stick with what I already have since I haven't really done anything that could be used as "cancel material"?

>>12292791
>]
if you have nothing on there that can potentially doxx you or get you cancelled, feel free to use ur old account. however, if your account is so old that you cant reember if uve posted any of these, its safer to start anew

>>12272418
Because it's be more like VShojo than Hololive and /vt/ hates VSJ

bump

>>12274529
they already exist in NFT circles. some had their animal avatar whatever rigged.

>>12292791
>"cancel material"?
cancel culture is a republican boogieman self oppression fantasy meme that doesn't exist. chuubas have been accused of sexual harassment, soliciting child pornography, racism, homophobia and a ton of other crap. the only ones who get "canceled" are the idiots that love drama and just double down on being a retard on twitter. if anything happens, put out an >apology take a break for a week then come back after everyone has moved on.

>>12276839
PC is Vancouver (Pacific) time so they will be closed today (in roughly 14 hours)

Good luck anons

quick bump

I’ve been around since before /vt/ but only now am getting the materials to start this. Am I late to the party? I feel like everyone here is sick of new chuubas already.

>>12308263
you're about as late as if you were to start webcam streaming like normal. the initial boom is long over but vtubing as a hobby is looking like it's gonna stick around for plenty of time. you're just not going to get a novelty buff anymore by just being a vtuber.

>>12308317
But will there be any buff at all still? Like a couple viewers worth? Bc maybe I should just use my own face anyway.

>>12308426
no buff. there are dozens of literal whos debuting each week. everyone is done with it. make good content and they'll come.

>>12308498
ahahaha, yeah, about that….

>>12308539
what about it?

>>12309928
I think all my ideas are great until I start working on them and realise my content is neither funny nor good.

>>12310166
that only happens because you see how the sausage is made, so to speak. and no one says every piece of content you put out needs to be home run.

>>12310324
Huh, that makes sense. Thanks. I’ll go touch some grass

Bump

Anyone here got the bloom wiggly?

>>12320394
There was a whole wiggly thread yesterday, I think Bloom’s was in there.

>>12320394
Here you go!

shit its 1 am and only a few hours till Phase auditions finish, I won't be able to record it...

>>12289598
Make a script and read it for recording.

>>12329395
this is exactly why it feels forced to people
just make no script, act like you talk to someone

Was /vt/'s bump limit 300 or 350?

>>12329977
310

>>12330064
Thanks

>>12327934
Then record it quietly, or forever wonder what could have been

>>12327934
auditions have been open for three months though- did you forget?

>>12327934
You shouldn't have waited 3 months then ngmi-chama

>>12339477
this. recruiters and hr reps reviewing your application will look down on applications that wait until the last minute. if that's your work ethic for applications that's likely gonna be your work ethic for streams and events

>>12339477
And I feel like 3 months is the longest I’ve ever seen an application period open, too. I’m surprised it was so long. How bad is your procrastination that 3 months wasn't long enough

My streams have bottomed out, I left for a month and now all of my regulars stopped coming. I've had three consecutive streams with zero viewers. I do all of the stuff I'm supposed to on twitter. I kinda wanna keep streaming because its fun but is the dream dead?

>>12343917
Drop your links. Is your content good?

>>12343917
>but is the dream dead?
a month long hiatus with no attempt to retain your community is basically starting over clean.

>>12344042
honestly I'm a little afraid to, I know I should but I'm a little scared to hear what I already know

>>12344054
yeah it was definitely a misstep

>>12344042
>>12344194
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_CqOO0SIzzTVjwT2Z1etA

aww fuck it rail me a new one

>>12344455
your video views are in the single digits so i'm not even going to bother clicking them. give me your elevator pitch. there are thousands of vtubers out there, why should i watch your content.

>>12344659
harsh but fair. This just made me realize I don't have a focus or gimmick or anything I'm riding on outside of my personality. My model is average, my voice is average, I play games no one wants to watch. I don't know how to fix any of that though.

>>12344858
streaming is asking someone to exchange their time to watch your stream. figure out why someone should watch your stream first.

>>12344930
well what makes anyone wanna watch streams period? I'm not sure if I can describe it, can you say why you watch who you watch?

>>12344858
Getting off YouTube and onto twitch would help, but if you can't give any kind of elevator pitch at all, I don't know what to tell you. Literally any reason will do, and this is about as receptive an audience as you'll ever find, so nut up and find some confidence

>>12345063
why do you watch youtube videos? why do you watch movies? why do you read mangas or webtoons or whatever else you consume. why do you eat certain foods over others?

>>12345080
what's the benefit of twitch?

>>12345265
I can't verbalize it, its not something I can put into words.

finished my phase connect application. kinda excited, cause even if nothin happens, i feel good cause i put in something authentic

>>12345271
ignore it. your platform doesn't matter. someone with single digit views will see the same performance on either twitch or youtube.

>>12345373
then you better fucking figure that shit out, shouldn't you?

>>12345400
How am I supposed to do that? Can you even do that?

>>12345819
go take a shot of vodka, grab a sheet of paper and write down several things that you do best when you stream

>>12345271
Ignore >>12345400, tons of people have moved and received much better viewership because the majority of viewers are on Twitch and it's much easier to find Vtubers there. Your platform absolutely matters at every level even single digit viewers. You're actually discoverable on Twitch, and getting past single digit isn't very hard with minimal networking and self-shilling.

>>12345819
I guarantee you that every single chuuba that started in this thread that's averaging double digits can tell you exactly why they think they're worth watching

>>12345943
post your numbers, twitchfag

>>12345891
jokes on you I was already drinking
>I think I'm good at talking to the audience (or at least pretending I have one to talk to)
>>12345943
I've only had bad experiences with twitch, is it really that much better?

>>12346367
>is it really that much better?
it's not. don't listen to the twitchfag. platform doesn't matter as long as your content is good. the only difference is that twitch's focus is live content while youtube's focus is non-live content. there's a ton of reasons why youtube is better in the long run, but none of it apply to a chuuba in your position.

>I think I'm good at talking to the audience (or at least pretending I have one to talk to)
you have no audience. you have zero way to demonstrate this. don't lie to yourself.

>>12346062
Here a 30 day average without raid numbers so it's more accurate. You can do well on Youtube, but it takes a hell of a lot more work for less payout in the end. If your goal is just to stream (and throw highlights and non-stream content on to Youtube) then just stick to Twitch, there's so much more room for growth, community involvement, financial gain, just about every way aside from not being able to rewind streams directly from the stream page. Most people who start on Youtube and move to Twitch see growth because even their followers watch more on Youtube.

A great example is Randon who has the Youtube game down perfectly. Consistent uploads, great bite-sized content, a good editor, everything. He still did better on Twitch after streaming there for I think 2+ weeks. He just prefers Youtube because he likes making video content as much as he like streaming and values his Youtube channel more.

>>12346367
"bad experiences" like what

>>12346495
>don't lie to yourself.
Then what am I supposed to do? Streaming is pointless if no one sees it.

>>12346582
>Streaming is pointless if no one sees it.
then stop streaming. you're only hurting yourself on the algorithm. go back to the drawing board, figure out what value you are providing to viewers and figure that shit out first.

>>12346495
Genuine question but if it doesn't matter, why do even the best Youtube vtubers get better numbers on Twitch? Randon, Kana, Corpse, various western corpos. All have better revenue gain and viewership on Twitch. I'm not trying to shit on you directly but in my experience I've seen that Twitch is better in just about every way as far as streaming goes.

how on earth do you find a good editor? (for videos obviously)

>>12346062
nta but this has been shown time and time again with a lot of chuubas from here; there was a whole youtube to twitch migration and pretty much every chuuba that transferred saw an increase of numbers
i recall eira woolcott having like 10-30 on youtube regularly and after she moved to twitch she's held a 40+ average despite having an incredibly inconsistent streaming schedule
rummy and coqui also were on youtube and then made the switch to twitch pretty early on and coqui hit partner just a few weeks ago
meat had been on youtube since last october and migrated to twitch and also saw bigger view numbers since changing over
i don't think there's a reliable way to get average viewership on stream vods from youtube to compare but it isn't uncommon for people to start on youtube because holos are on youtube and then realize that discoverability sucks and getting stuff like custom emotes and channel redeems is significantly harder so they migrate to twitch

>>12346741
I've found a few through Twitter search, but you can also look through other chuubas' content and find an editor that way, most don't work for only one person unless it's a big streamer ,and even then it's worth asking.

>>12346746
Exactly, if the platform didn't matter than everyone wouldn't be moving (and thriving), and all the biggest chuubas wouldn't be on Twitch. Even the shark who was the biggest on Youtube for the longest does better when she streams on Twitch and those are random unscheduled streams.

>>12346709
>why do even the best Youtube vtubers get better numbers on Twitch?
because you're disingenuously framing it as an arbitrary only-chuubas-who-start-from-scratch thing and conveniently ignoring Hololive, Nijisanji, Tsunderia, Prism Project, and a whole host of other streamers.

>Randon
only had big viewership because it was a temporary change and a significant chunk of /wvt/ were trying to support him. his 2 week experiement was not and would not be indicative of his long term performance on twitch. he was also doing better on youtube.

>Corpse
same thing. her performance on twitch would have dropped down to her regular youtube levels because her content isn't that good. it would have faltered after the novelty and the initial wave of support even on twitch.

>various western corpos
a western indie on youtube like Hiiragi Emuri is doing better than western corpo like Juliet Winters from Heavenrend on twitch. i don't know what point you're trying to make unless you're trying to cherry pick specific examples.

>>12347309
wait so is twitch worse or just the same?

How do you get over the 0 view hurdle?
It's hard to talk about anything when there's Noone there to talk to. I'd be happy talking about stupid shit I like if there's someone to respond, but if I'm going into indepth reviews of a book I read it's kinda stupid if literally 0-2 lurkers are just afking there.
And I dont want to be a narratorfag

>>12347763
welcome to the club


(I also need an answer)

>>12347763
So, I was a 0 view for some time.

Essentially how I got to the 1 view is asking a friend to come watch me. And planning my stream times around when they were willing to make it

>>12347309
Why would I include those companies when we're clearly talking about indies? Companies are guaranteed some kind of baseline viewership just off the name itself.

>Randon
Acknowleged Twitch was better for streaming, he just prefers Youtube. He was there for at least 2 weeks, plenty of time to get a baseline.

>Corpse
No way of knowing this because it was only for a week so I'd be glad to concede that we wouldn't know, even if I disagree.

>Various western corpos
it's not cherrypicking, again I'm talking about the performance of indies specifically.

>>12347550
Where do you see more people like you (indies) succeeding? Pick that platform. Or do what you want, in the end it's your choice.

>>12347844
Have some friends watch, network on Twitter, make some non-stream content like video/image memes and just keep that up. It helped me to join the communities of other chuubas I enjoy I gained a few viewers there since I made some friends.

>>12348125
Does a 1 view get enough back and forth to make conversation flow consistently?

>>12347763
shill yourself? a fair amount of chuubas here got a few viewers from posting themselves in /asp/ or /wvt/ and having people drop by. Bloom, TeruTeru, and Atropa all come to mind as reading chuubas that shared their link here early on (though I think Atropa blogposted for a month before ever sharing her link)
then there's also shilling yourself on twitter or in other related communities where possible

>>12347763
first, you shouldn't be streaming to zero viewers. it's a waste of time. you can work on filling in dead air by just talking outloud to yourself daily and not when you're streaming for 5 hours to 0 viewers. focus on making good content. spoiler just playing games is not good content. network and get your name out there. create some short scripted material, hop onto tiktok trends and so on.

>>12348361
It’s enough if they’re actively viewing/chatting and not just putting you in the background. Keep in mind that I am f*male so this might not work for you.