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12076726 No.12076726 [Reply] [Original]

I want your thoughts, I watch as many streams as I can, but im open to having my mind changed.

>> No.12076767

Clip watcher. Kill yourself.

>> No.12076789

>Flare
>Mostly all there
>Shion
>Questionable
OP has no idea what he is talking about.

>> No.12076797

Well you got Matuli right at least. Retard.

>> No.12076800

>Puts most of the most sane chuubas at the bottom
Do you actually watch streams or..?

>> No.12076825

>>12076726
Good list but who's that orange woman, the last one in the second row? I don't think she's with the company.

>> No.12076827

>>12076726
Pretty much nailed it

>> No.12076853

>>12076726
Ollie and Shion should be lower

>> No.12076867

>>12076726
how the rrat is sane? she went menhera when chat was seeing her stream only for kronni

>> No.12076883

>>12076726
choco sleeps all day , like , 24hours all day, she is a fucking basket case.

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>>12076726
H-haha..

>> No.12076956

>>12076726
Put the rrat down and that's good tier list

>> No.12076970

>fbk not sane
>ame not mostly there
>polka questionable
>choco/aki being this high
>kiara being anywhere but the bottom
>thinking marine has "major" issues

I get the memes but don't comment on people you don't watch

>> No.12076971

>>12076726
AME IS A NUTJOB CRAZY PERSON WHO SHOULD BE COMMITTED WE GET IT

>> No.12076979

>>12076789
If I had to be honest these two are probably my flimsiest placing on the entire list. I don't watch much of either

>> No.12076988

>>12076883
Getting dicked down on a regular basis can be exhausting

>> No.12077026

>>12076726
There're a lot of issues with it, but the biggest one for me is this:
How is Shion, who gets mental support from Aqua, only questionable?

>> No.12077072

>>12076726
My oshi is perfectly sane, just like me. It's the rest of the world that's wrong. You are the insane ones. Crying yourself to sleep semi-regularly is the sane thing to do. A complete lack of self confidence, being paranoid everyone will leave and abandon you in the same way as everyone else in your life has done before, having extreme mood swings between absolute despair and random bliss are all perfectly normal behaviors. Being in an online parasocial relationship should be the standard. You who tolerate the world and behave "sanely" are the ones actually insane.

>> No.12077112

>>12077072
Based nousagibro, spitting truths.

>> No.12077118

>>12076970
>FBK could probably go up
>ame is in the correct spot
>polka could probably go up
>im pretty comfortable with my aki and choco placements
>Kiara might be the lowest has issues, but no lower
>marine i actually think does need to move up

>> No.12077176

>>12077118
ame is totally sane, polka has legitimate issues, kiara is a fucking basket case. I can get mis-placing ame but there's no way you could disagree with kiara/polka if you watch any amount of their content

>> No.12077256

>>12077118
>>polka could probably go up
Polka is mental but barely keeps it together.
>>Choco
She's pretty fucked up.

Your list is fucking awful since you get most of the JP members wrong. Like how can you ignore all those suicidal posts Shion was making or ignore the one who was legit grooming in her old life? You know almost nothing about the JP holos.

>> No.12077317

>>12077118
You're the one that's fucking mental

>> No.12077318

>>12076726
major issues should be shion, aqua, noel, polka, watame and pekora.

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>>12076726
>Hags, cakes, and married women all at or near sane
>Younger girls who are single or speedrunning boyfriends trend towards the menhera

What does it mean?

>> No.12077415

>>12077072
Correct. Anyone who disagrees with this opinion has outed themselves as a conformist and will never achieve true success. They will stay in their comfortable midlevel job for decades, hoping to get promoted and finally become one of the big boys, while the true sane ones become unimaginably successful by their own efforts, relying on no one but themselves.

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Here, I wasted some time doing my own list.
Skipped ID and Council cause I don't watch them enough to form an opinion.

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>>12076726
>polka
>questionable
Get a load of this clipnigger

>> No.12077502

>>12076988
She wishes.

>> No.12077534

>>12077256
I personally said i didn't really know shion at all, i think polka is fine at last of questionable, and choco

>> No.12077537

>>12076726
>>12077425
suisei is one of the most sane girls, that psychopath shit is a joke
nene is completely sane, but dumb

>> No.12077557

>>12077425
You still skipped HOLOSTARS

>> No.12077584

>>12077557
>Comparing men to women on a sanity level

>> No.12077658

>>12076825
She doesn't matter, the only thing she brought in Hololive is Reddit, the most toxic fanbase and a T....series.

>> No.12077683

>>12077658
>and a T....series
Towa...

>> No.12077734

>>12077072
Okay but which one are you alluding too.

>> No.12077743

>>12076988
choco dreams of taking a rich boys cock like that, japs are fucking pussies for not marrying this woman already.

>> No.12077898
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Here's the real tier list.

>> No.12077904

>>12076726
Any vtuber with a consistent stream schedule doesnt have any real issues. Their underlying problems are mitigated with discipline

>> No.12077942

>>12077904
Who are Polka, Pekora, Noel, Korone, et cetera?

>> No.12077973

>>12077584
They're all women if you imagined enough

>> No.12077997

>Kiara is menhera
Why? She is hardworking and a numberfag so yeah, she has issues, but not more than Mori I'd say. Certainly not on Rushia/Matsuli levels.

>> No.12078003

>>12077942
Consistency is a pretty big indicator you have enough shit together and not spiralling into menhera rabbit hole

>> No.12078055

>>12076726
>Kiara
>Real Issues
I want to beat up OP real good.

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>>12076825
rent free

>> No.12078101

>>12078003
Matsuri streams very regularly, there's no way you can say that she's not batshit insane.

>> No.12078119

>>12077997
I want to marry Kiara but I don't like my women sane. It makes me feel lonely.

>> No.12078122

>>12078075
orange woman bad

>> No.12078154

>>12078055
She has deep issues, but manages to keep herself together by streaming alot. Its compulsive workaholic cope, but thats good

>> No.12078281

>>12077997
bros KFP is delusional wtf

>> No.12078291

>>12078119
>>12078154
No really, why are you guys saying she's fucked up? She is a numberfag and probably validates herself a lot because she is in Hololive and KFP is an enormous ego-boost, but that work ethic and dedication to being in essence a replica of the standard virtual Japanese idol, with all it entails, is cannot be attributed to her obsession with numbers. She is the only HoloEN to "get" why idolshit works. She is similar to Pekora, but Pekora has deeper issues, as one can tell from the relationship she has with her mother.

>> No.12078309

>>12077898
I don't get this meme about ame being crazy. Have you ever met a legitimately crazy women? There's a difference between hehe I'm crazy goblin girl and being one stressful week away from a psychotic break

>> No.12078348

>>12078309
>Have you ever met a woman?
FTFY

>> No.12078385

>>12078291
>met a woman
No, those only exist in eroge and on the youtube.

>> No.12078832

>>12078291
But thats exactly why shes the epitome of COPE, her numbers arent good in comparison to her genmates

>> No.12078921

>>12076726
Sora is too lonely to be in the highest tier.

>> No.12079294

>>12078309
She's not autistic though, therefore she's an unwed childless twenty something year old woman who has no reason to be in that position besides menhera or the western equivalent, hysteria.

>> No.12079765

The number of Holos who've improved mentally this year is pretty small. It's basically Flare, Luna, Miko, Haato, Roboco and Subaru.
The rest either stayed the same or fell off a fucking cliff like Aqua and Pekora.

>> No.12079884

>>12078291
I can’t post it, but there is a collage that shows she hates herself more than anyone here ever could. It would be an empty gesture, she has issues but still deserves to be happy.
Have this instead:
https://youtu.be/RWGwRRPc6O0

>> No.12081443

>>12076726
Would move ayame down two rows
Nene up she's perfectly fine
Noel up it's mostly memes
Shion down
Polka down she's one of the worse
Suisei too i've yet to see anything wrong with her

>> No.12081456

>>12076726
WTF I agree with this chart

>> No.12081496

>>12076726
>>12077318
>>12077425
>>12079765
Watame is doing well, just none of you watch her or understand Japanese.

>> No.12081499

>>12076726
of those I'm familiar with, Polka needs to be lowered and Miko needs to be higher

>> No.12081505
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>>12076726
>Reine is sane
lol

>> No.12081530

>>12081496
Yes, but her position would only go one tier up.

>> No.12081571

>>12081530
Why only one rather than two?

>> No.12081688

>>12077378
younger people are less stable. its crazy to imagine.

>> No.12083553

>>12076726
move Marine and Suisei up. the latter actually seems fairly normal.

>> No.12083663

>>12076726
I would love to hear about why the people at "Has real issues" and below are actually there.

>> No.12083712

>>12077537
Suzy is too much of a stacy. You don't become like that with a normal head.

>> No.12083782

>>12076726
CHAMMERS IS SANE AND YOU CAN'T TELL ME OTHERWISE OP

>> No.12083789

>>12077026
Cause after her marriage with Gura, Shion mental health improves.

>> No.12084494

>>12076726
ok i can immeditely tell this is a very superficial list and OP doesnt watch streams
Ina sane? kek
girls who are vtubers arent sane by default

>> No.12084635

>>12077898
This is the only accurate list, except the menheras are also autistic.

>> No.12084697

>>12076726
The rat lusts for dick too much to be sane,.

>> No.12084885

>>12079765
Haachama hasn't improved mentally which is really unfortunate

>> No.12085015

>>12077378
sauce?

>> No.12085086

>>12083712
>so sane she loops back into being insane

>> No.12085167

>>12085086
Pretty much. I suspect people who appear too well balanced most of all.

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>>12077898
i think kanata might fit better in menhera
of course, she's off the charts for both, so maybe just put her in both

>> No.12085756

what makes Risu more questionable than anyone else?

>> No.12087165
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12087165

An updated list after some feedback on some holos which I was not the most familiar with, and some of my own considerations after sleeping. I'm still pretty confident in about 80% of the list though.
Also, be a little bit fucking realistic here people, even if you watch streams for 8 hours a day (which I do, every day for almost 2 years now) every day it's physically impossible to absorb all content from every holomem. So yeah, decisions are made with some assumptions.

>> No.12087497

Also bear in mind that by being vtubers, they are by default less sane than your average person, so the rankings are all relative to each other.

>> No.12087614

>>12076726
I WANT TO STICK MY DICK IN CRAZY

>> No.12087922

>>12077118
>ame is totally sane
If she fixed all her health problems maybe, but until some weeks ago she had a horrible sleep schedule, having constant stomach ache, self-esteem issues, and her search to be the ''unique'' holo burned her out a lot, she was going to the Haachama path, so again, if she managed to revert back she can be sane again, but otherwise she would be even place lower if things doesn't change

>> No.12088180

>>12084885
Well, I can't blame her for her circumstances, she came from the Taiwan yab and having to move again to Japan in the middle of the pandemic, had her lore arc destroyed by management, her best friend in Hololive graduated, she entered to college, making her to split her time for streaming, all of this being under 20, at this point is a miracle she is managing to stay more or less sane considering how shitty was this year for her

>> No.12090781

>>12076726
why is my oshi in pain

>> No.12091005

>>12084885
Well she hasn't had a meltdown in ages and her content no longer looks like a very obvious cry for help.

>> No.12091268

>>12087165
Subaru, Okayu, Mio, Nene, Suisei, Lamy are all sane.
What issues do Towa and Marine have? They're questionable at worst, probably mostly all there.

>> No.12091637

>>12087922
Being burned out does not make you not sane.
She has the regular fucked up sleep schedule of a person not working fixed hours.
Pretending she's issues because she took a small break from streaming is retarded.

>> No.12091743

>>12076726
>>12087165
Why is Sana on that tier?
Is this a "I don't actually watch her but I don't like her model so I'll put here down there"?

>> No.12092259

>>12087165
Subaru should probably be in the highest tier.

>> No.12092294

>>12091743
She's probably saner normally but the last arc of her dead dog means right now she's mentally in shambles lately

>> No.12092327

>>12076726
>coco
>mostly all there

What is wrong with the person who made that?

Like whats his illness

>> No.12092447

>>12092294
Taking a break because you know you can't act cheerful on stream after a loss is probably the most sane thing you can do.

>> No.12093961

>>12079294
Do you really think she's not autistic?

>> No.12093975

>>12091743
Lower on the list != me not liking them. Matsuri is one of my favorite JP but that bitch is fucking crazy. Sana is down there pretty much because of the dog arc and just how long of a break she is taking for it. Prior to that she honestly probably would've been top 5 sane

>> No.12094056

>>12092327
You are deluding yourself if you think coco is crazy at this point. If you want to do a snapshot of coco from 6 months ago yeah she would probably be towards the bottom. But getting out of hololive with her situation, and now doing as well as she is with the kind of content she puts out I don't think she belongs anywhere else

>> No.12094186

Why do people on this thread assume that a woman being crazy is a bad thing when it's literally the opposite and I will personally fight anybody IRL to the death who thinks otherwise?

>> No.12096137

>>12094186
you've clearly never met a crazy person

>> No.12096231

>>12096137
You're retarded, never had a non-crazy woman have sex with me for 8 hours in a single day, after that she can burn my house down for all I care

>> No.12096245

>>12093975
Yeah, normally Sanners is saner.

>> No.12096277

>>12094186
just don't get her pregnant

>> No.12096294
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>>12076907
Reine is halu! HALU!

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>>12076970
>thinking marine has "major" issues
it's a very, very long list of small issues

>> No.12096311

>>12096231
woah just like in my doujinshi

>> No.12096393

>>12092327
She is sane, cause she left the culprit of her problems, nowadays happier than ever.

>> No.12096656

>>12087165
Putting Watame that low just makes you look like a thread watcher.

>> No.12096803

>>12096656
Watame definitely has some abandonment issues, why do you think she streams so long

>> No.12096811

>>12077898
But Mori is both.

>> No.12096885

>>12096803
So does everyone, hence she's sane

>> No.12098155

>>12096803
>>12093975
This is what I mean by insane being better
They feel more feelings which causes me to feel more feelings
And feeling things I had trouble feeling is literally why vtubers exist. I'm pretty sure it's why art exists period, and all the big name artists are bat shit

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>> No.12098852

>>12098643
>Marine
>sane

>> No.12098914

>>12098852
her workaholic autism is standard for japs so i gotta put her there

>> No.12099109

>>12087922
>having constant stomach ache
She can't eat gluton but keep eating bread, I have a friend with the same exact issue and while it's not ideal I wouldn't call her less sane for it.
>terrible sleep schedule, self-esteem issues
Literally everyone in Hololive have that, this isn't something unique to Ame

>> No.12099204

>>12096656
Im not going to pretend like some of my opinions arent heavily influenced by thread reading and a little bit of clipfaggotry. Its physically impossible to watch all streams so i try and keep up however i can

>> No.12099605

>>12098643
This is just as bad. The fact that Pekora, Korone, and Ayame are in the same tier is actually retarded.
Also
>Marine
>Fubuki
>Lamy
>Suisei
>Implying none of them have any issues whatsoever
Just because you're trying to pretend that depression and some level of autistic loneliness is a normal baseline doesn't mean it is and fuck you for normalizing mental illness you fucking faggot

>> No.12100898

>>12079765
I'm a clipfag so i just going to ask
How is she worse than last year? I thought that her being more open with her family could make her more relaxed and stuff

>> No.12102142

>>12099605
can you elaborate on suisei? i'm aware of the others but suisei always has people calling her stable as fuck or one of the sanest ones even in this thread so i'm curious
and saying she is too much of a stacy to be sane is kinda vague

>> No.12102158

>>12091005
she hasn't had a meltdown *on stream*, who knows what happens off stream

>> No.12102616

Ame is the least sane, dumb bitch actually thinks she's allergic to bread. You can't be allergic to bread that's stupid.

>> No.12102753

>>12102158
at least she's not being bullied by australian children anymore

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>>12076726
Anyone have a link to the new one?
This one is just the old girls

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>>12078122

>> No.12105028

>>12087165
>Kronii is lowest EN
imma need a quick rundown bros. don't really watch her much, does she act up in her member streams or something?

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My 2 cents. I dont know enough about some JP members and Councyl, but here are some aclarations
>No real debate on the Sane cattegory
>Marine belongs here, aside her horni persona she is pretty sane and mature. Towa and Risu questionable
>Coco is in questionable because she talked about being a toxic numberfag at moments before graduating. Noel is not that menhera as some schizos here claim, pretty chill actually. Ollie is not menhera either, only impulsive and reckless
>Kiara and Gura are neither than menhera, just a little salty and over emotinal.
>Nothing to discuss here aside of Ame. He is doint better lately but she is still in the verge of burning out.
>Matsuri got its own tier for evident reasons we dont need to elaborate

>> No.12105639

>>12105043
Rushia doesn't belong in the same tier as the rest of major issues. She's a different type and style of crazy than Matsuri so you can put them as seperate tiers, but she outranks the other girls in terms of her world view being fundamentally broken. The other girls have cureable mental issues in terms of fucked up major issues or depression weighing on them, Rushia has just become fundamentally broken at her core, her entire foundation of being is fucked up.
t. am religious fandead who stalks everything she does on every account

>> No.12106092

>>12105639
Do you have any example of why Rushia is menhera, i am honestly very curious about that. Especially since you say its even crazier than fucking Matsuri, the quintessential menhera

>> No.12107842

>>12105043
Bitch doubled down her porn content after getting famous

>> No.12108226

>>12103730
god I fucking wish

>> No.12108336

>>12105043
>Matsuri got its own tier for evident reasons we dont need to elaborate
I was born yesterday, what happened?

>> No.12110843

>>12096803
She enjoys streaming. You don't even watch her.

>> No.12111186

>>12099204
It's rare for me to miss her streams even if it's just background noise. She wasn't in a good spot mentally last year, but it's been much better since around the turn of the year.

>> No.12114596

>>12100898
she didn't have a bad eating disorder last year.

>> No.12114750

>>12105043
>Coco is in questionable because she talked about being a toxic numberfag at moments before graduating
Maybe because the chinks as well as being constantly fucked over by management had something to do with it. Before Taiwangate she's one of the more stable ones, as she unofficially functioned behind the scenes as Hololive's resident counselor (e.g. talk to Aqua). Long after Taiwangate and before Graduation was when she opened up on being unhappy in Hololive, starting to constantly compare herself to others, and part of the reason for her graduation is to avoid losing herself to that.

>> No.12116788

>>12106092
I don't think she's "crazier than Matsuri", I think she's a fundamentally different type of menhera than Matsuri, to which if you placed her below Matsuri I would understand, she just doesn't belong with the rest of major issues you placed with. If both were to go out by suicide, Matsuri would be viewed as insane mental case trainwreck that destroyed and ruined her own life, and Rushia's suicide note would be the type that makes you puke out of how sad it is just reading it and wonder how fucked up they were in the head this whole time and survived this long. The majority of the "major issues" people you put are essentially having a rough episode mental case or bouts of major issues that can be viewed as the results of poor circumstances or curable eventually fixable after enough time passes, or have just one or two peculiarities fundamentally off about them that are extremely abnormal and schizo behaviors; but Rushia's is essentially a living mental issue, that's her normal state which has only gradually worsened in intensity over her entire life, the "fine" moments she shows to the world are abnormalities from her natural condition,. Even at the peak of what should bring her happiness, nothing is cured, it's just somewhat suppressed. Her livestream persona is thousand percents more mentally healthy than she actually is (mainly due to livestreaming being the only time she's happy), even her deleted menhera mengen posts as Rushia & deleted menhera tweets as Rushia are still fundamentally more sane and mentally well off than she actually is, and I think the schizo behaviors she displays on stream alone are on par with most the roommate issues of most the others in Major Issues. I could write a whole thesis on her mental state but that requires a lot of info I can't source on /vt/ and don't really care to write out.
But Rushia's just a fundamentally broken case way past the other members, a walking mental issue that's just really doomed to worsen as time goes yet more on, a mental sickness unto death, the menhera she portrays on stream is thousands times more healthy than her actual state of mind. I don't really see Rushia going any other way out except by suicide, even with her extremely frail constitution, it's still most likely Rushia ends up taking her life in a fit of despair. Other fandeads might deny this but that's their own delusions of thinking they can fix Rushia and wishing her happiness. I've witnessed her and her roommate enough to be able to know it's hopeless, the same way it's hopeless to save or fix Matsuri. Matsuri's more traditionally insane by society's standards, Rushia's just fundamentally broken.

>> No.12117000

>>12116788
didnt read but take your meds

>> No.12117118

>>12116788
Did something ever happen to her to end up like that? Or is she just wired differently?

>> No.12117572

>>12077898
I don't think Botan is either desu. She seems like the most well put together holo, although I barely watch her streams.

>> No.12117835

>>12117572
Botan quite clearly has some autistic tendencies and muted emotions.
I know people here think perpetually operating on a lower frequency is the picture of mental health, but it's genuinely not. It's just less disruptive, usually. But that only matters if functioning and lack of overt negativity is your primary concern for what constitutes mental health, but that's a dumb take to have

>> No.12117852

>>12117118
There are multiple reasons later in her life that contributed to it becoming as bad it is, there are probably inherent factors from somewhere but the inherent factors would probably only make her at worse Polka or Kronii levels of mental state, which still are major issue territory but yeah. From all the info I've gathered over the past 2 years it's hard to tell her for certain her mental state before High School in any objective worthwhile manner, but essentially everything High School and beyond I've gotten down.

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>>12098643
>Nene
>Lamy
>Sane
Nene is mostly just retarded but to a great enough extent that she should be in questionable. Lamy is probably the most "actually autistic" person in Hololive other than Aqua, given her obsession with her fanbase / organizing the whole holoserver (she even neatens the torches people put down) / fitting into small or enclosed spaces etc.

>> No.12118089

>>12076726
>marine has issues
the biggest normie in holocrap.

>> No.12118196

>>12117912
I'm a casual Lamy viewer, but her fan behavior towards other holo members and set phrases come across as a bit on the spectrum, like there's even a joke copypasta on 5ch of all the stock Lamy phrases so you too can be become Lamy.

>> No.12118373

>>12117912
No wonder yukimin love her...

>> No.12118518

>>12078101
>cancels streams the moment she starts to feel a cold
>leaves all her stream ideas unfulfilled
>but if it's apex, even if she's dying of aids, she'll 100% stream

>> No.12118959

>>12117912
You know, autism would partially explain some of her obsessive hobbyism.

>> No.12119269

>>12117572
>>12117835
This, I have an autistic friend, low level actually, Asperger.

She is way better at socialising than me and I actually look like someone who has a problem, me a normal human as far as I know, just because someone has learnt to read other people and seems well off doesn't mean she may not have a degree of a mental issue, in this case Autism.

For all we know she may have a degree of Autism or similar and she just, you know, learnt to function in society, this is specifically important in a place such a Japan where you get stigmatized af is you have a mental issue and if you are pretty different there is a good chance your life is not gonna be easy since you know, Japanese culture is not fond of people that it's notably different.

>> No.12119826

If at least half of the rrats about Botan are true I refuse to believe she's as sane as she appears, mostly because first, those rrats are wild and would've probably traumatize her.

Second, her behaviour as sane as it looks strikes me more as someone who is just, hiding most of her dark stuff so it doesn't interfere with her normal life, like someone above said, she seems to have muted emotions most of the time.

Ofc she has cried, and she doesn't seems to get angry but that doesn't mean she's subconsciously bottling some stuff that will come out sooner or later (tho probably not in stream, she has said she doesn't like crying in front of others, it wouldn't surprise me if she has breakdowns every 6 months alone in her room)

I mean yeah, there's a point where you stop giving a shit about stuff but that has a limit too before you have to feel something.

>> No.12120268

My friend is retarded. And she went to Harvard so even retards can be smart.
Botan is actually very mentally retarded she just hides it by knowing facts and faking using logic and reason to deal with problems. But probably once every few months she breaks down and tards out in her room, eating crayons and smearing shit on the wall.

>> No.12120724

what do you think will help chamas mental more, dropping out of uni or quitting vtubing. i think dropping out of uni will help more

>> No.12121220

>>12120724
Having a semester or two more of uni. Japan's uni system is notoriously easy, so she probably shouldn't actually have troubles after she's adjusted to whatever initial issues she's facing.

>> No.12125963

>>12076726
baelz nearly had a breakdown when chat pretended that she was just a guest on kronii's stream. She probably was sane before hololive but now it's questionable.

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>>12108226

>> No.12128376

>>12125963
"Breakdown" I pretty sure it was just a extended or poorly conveyed bit.

>> No.12129896

I watched matsuris roommate clips from last year , and she seemed fine, ome of the very few attractive holos by European standards. I read the rrats and frankly i dont beleive it . She seems like a literal generic Japanese young adult. I couldnt see the instability her eyes and body language like I could for ame or even kiara who's simply a lite narcissist. I want to believe that matsuri is crazy.

>> No.12130259

>>12128376
Poorly-conveyed bit to cover for being actually upset is pretty classic. Kronii's done it herself at least once.

>> No.12130318

>>12105043
This is pretty close. I would tweak a couple things but this is about my perception yeah.

>> No.12130387

>>12125963
kek, i remember that

>> No.12130807

>>12114750
Coco is/was one of the most sane members, cause she understood and was conscious of her problems, she did what she could to resolve her issues, even if it meant to leave hololive. A drastic but conscious decision.

>> No.12130885

>>12077118
>>12077256
Polka is easily in the bottom tier

>> No.12131383

>>12125963
I dont think getting upset at chat for basically spamming that they are enjoying kronii more than her in one of their earliest streams is a sign of not being sane. You are at a crazy exclusive high pressure new job and being told to your face by hundreds of fans in your own stream that they prefer your coworker over you is fucked up and would make anyone upset.

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>>12117912
Lamy love!

>> No.12131596

>>12130807
This and unironically

Source: her memstream which no longer exist

>> No.12131627

>>12131497
Jesus, she's as bad a Rushia for her twitter stalking of her fans

>> No.12131662

>>12117912
>Lamy is probably the most "actually autistic" person in Hololive other than Aqua,
They got the new Owl girl, she seems pretty up there.

>> No.12132006

>>12077898
Based

>> No.12132240

>>12125963
That "breakdown" is proof of how normal she is. She got sad and acted like the average young woman when they get shit on. She didnt explode into anger, she didnt cry, she didnt do anything stupid. She was just a little salty and then swallowed it for her friend (kronii) who had come to apologize after seeing how chat was treating baelz. She smiled and said shit like "its ok, dont worry about it". She didnt blame kronii for something that was out of her hands.
I respect her for being emotional yet controlling those emotions and acting correctly. And i dont even watch baelz that much only clips of her. But to me she seems like the purest person in EN

>> No.12133330

>>12076726
>Rushia
She's just acting, right?

>> No.12133340

>>12133330
yeah. like i do everyday

>> No.12133350

>>12076883
How does she do it??

>> No.12133399

>>12114596
Does she now?????

>> No.12133446

>>12116788
Is there any reason as to why Rushia is so mentally fucked?

>> No.12133477

>>12117912
Nene is not retarded, I don't believe someone as fit as her could be retarded

>> No.12133494

>>12119826
....what rrats?

>> No.12133516

>>12121220
Wait Japan's Uni system is easy?? I thought it was hard because of all the general shit I'd heard about Japan.

>> No.12133569

>>12133516
Hard to get in but once you're in it's piss easy from what I've heard. Same in South Korea and Taiwan as well, as I recall.

>> No.12133577

>>12133516
No high school & entering college is the hard part, actual Japanese college programs have a rep of being a joke easier and less stressful than high school.

>> No.12133641

>>12116788
>I think the schizo behaviors she displays on stream alone are on par with most the roommate issues of most the others in Major Issues.
Okay somebody please explain to me what "roommate" means. I keep seeing it in threads and it's only term that confuses me. Does it refer to the actual person behind the avatar of what?

>> No.12134036

>>12108336
I don't think anyone could make a list long enough to fit her crimes.

>> No.12134289

Sanity Rankings
>Sane
People who don't watch vTubers
>Mostly all there
People who put on vTubers occasionally for background noise
People who just watch the funny short clips and chuckle
>Questionable
People who watch streams religiously even if they don't understand a word of the language
People who buy merch of these cute anime girls
>Has real issues
Tribalfags
Paypigs
>Major issues
Numberfags
rrat conspiracy nuts
>jfc
Zhangs
OP

>> No.12134412

>>12134289
Hell yeah I only made it to Questionable

>> No.12134749

>>12116788
medicación

>> No.12134792

>>12087165
Ina is not fully sane, questionable or being generous mostly all there. Coco is in has some issues at the very least, again being generous despite you people's eternal defendings of her. Subaru is sane despite her hardship or perhaps because of them, goes up. Towa doen't have that many issues AFAIK. Rest is kind of ok. I'd say maybe Mori and Gura have some issues but eh, I don't care much so I don't know. IryS also seems worthy of going one tier up.

>> No.12134843

>>12092327
>>12094056
>>12096393
Sorry, Tatsunokos, but Coco has some serious issues, from confirmed stuff like the impostor syndrome she herself mentioned during her very last streams before graduation to some egocentrism issues, consummate manipulative conduct among others. Not bad bad because she manages to keep JP kayfabe (tatemae) pretty nicely but not super perfect sane as y'all think. Them's the breaks.

>> No.12134865

>>12092327
It's an illness called being a sycophant. Or, as she said she wanted to have and never did, but had in droves: being a gachikoi.

>> No.12135040

>>12108336
Check the "Saving Matsuri" threads or archives. It explains some of her, urm, circumstances and less than ideal choices.

>> No.12135177

>>12134843
Coco's menhera episodes came after Taiwangate you newfaggots. Before Taiwangate she was one of the most stable, as she unofficially functioned as Hololive's resident Guidance Counselor. It was after brutal chink harrassment, as well as Cover fucking her over, that she openly admitted to suffering some mental issues, and part of her reason for graduation was to avoidd herself succumbing to that.

>> No.12135241

>>12135177
Addendum: Can you endure being persecuted and harassed by an entire Global Superpower? Anybody would become menhera because of that.

>> No.12136650

>>12133330
some of the time, at least.

>> No.12137280

>>12133641
>Does it refer to the actual person behind the avatar

yes

>> No.12137348

>>12134749
medication doesn't help, only noose

>> No.12138383

>>12107842
who?

>> No.12139826

bump

>> No.12142782

>>12076726
who will cause the next yab?

>> No.12143065
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12143065

Sit back, let me show you how it's done. A great number of you really don't know the meaning of sanity, so I'll school you

Rushia isn't menhera, in fact she's quite the opposite. Being able to switch back and forth between her menhera persona and her placating persona is a trait of a skilled lucid actor. Same with Aqua. In fact many of you mistake timidness with mental instability, which is completely misreading it.

>> No.12143440 [DELETED] 

>>12091268
>>12143065
not convinced on Aqua; yes, timidity is not the same as instability, but it's still not a healthy/sane mindset.
(aren't the easiest roles the ones that on some level are, or at least you wish were, true?)
seems mostly fine otherwise, although I'm curious why Suisei, Nene, and Risu are so low.

>> No.12143529

>>12143065
not convinced on Aqua; yes, timidity is not the same as instability, but it's still not a healthy/sane mindset.
(aren't the easiest roles the ones that on some level are, or at least you wish were, true?)
seems mostly fine otherwise, although I'm curious why Suisei, Nene, and Risu are so low.

>> No.12143846

>>12084635
>>12077898
He's right, it should be a Venn Diagram

>> No.12143913

>>12143065
>Marine
>Rather-sane
Clip-kun please..

>> No.12144032

>>12143913
she's not quite insane, Clip-sama.

>> No.12144152

>>12133569
>>12133577
Oh. That seems like a really topsy turvy way to have things set up. So highschool is the real college for them I guess.

>> No.12144331

There's a new video saying Aqua is having mental health issue because of haters.

>> No.12144392

>>12144331
>new
It's all so tiring. So very very tiring. I am talking about you of course, slowchama.

>> No.12144437

>>12144331
Not using Twitter for some days when hate comments give you trouble seems reasonable though

>> No.12144713

>>12143065
Sora Completely sane, you don't even watch clips anon. She talked recently about having quite bad anxiety
Also Suisei on rather insane, what a joke, sharing tier with polka, shion, aloe, etc
Also Kiara in bottom tier, I will never understand the obsession of vt with orange woman (especially when people only watch clipbait clips)

>> No.12146417

>>12144713
For you point on Suisei I'd admit I'll concede because despite her being very assertive and her having this certain strong drive to succeed that doesn't mean she has a poor grip on mental health. Suisei has this very good life self-management skill which helps her brush off anything that would affect her mental health negatively. I'd still say though that her placement in the list is still not bad as she exudes a strong desire for accomplishment which may be seen as terrifying.

For Kiara though I'd stand by my point as far as the tierlist goes. Kiara has very good communication skills, she cares very much about how to be entertaining and in collabs she is very organized, that much is true. But she has really poor self-management skills, as she lets negative rumors gets to her, and I don't need to mention about her fixation with sub numbers. You'll never know when one day she would go snap from all the negative attention she pay attention to and go full mental.

>> No.12146755

>>12143065
This is by far one of the actual worst sanity tier lists (You) could post without everyone immediately recognizing it as bait. You know absolutely nothing for at least 1/2 the talents you talk about, a pure drama thread reader who never stepped foot out of /vt/ and never wached a stream could do better. It's so absurd none of your choices deserves to be logically addressed.

>> No.12146799

>>12116788
If this is true, it reminds me of Reckful. Really hope Rushia doesn't end up like he did.
I will save her.

>> No.12147522

>>12146799
>I will save her.
Anon I have something to tell you...

>> No.12148237

>>12146755
It's not bait at all. I never half-ass anything that I do, even when doing meme tierlists. If you disagree with it then that's fine. Still going to stand by my opinion though

>> No.12148287

>>12143065
>aqua in the first row of sane
I physically couldn't keep looking at this image after seeing that

>> No.12148581

>>12076726
What's with vtubers and attracting all the schizos?

>> No.12148609

God these retarded EOPs that take 1 clip out of context and think Coco graduate because she "was a numberfag" are so fucking retarded, she wasn't even talking about numbers you idiots, she was talking about her projects getting shut down by management in comparision to other members.
She literally never gave a shit about numbers, that's why she didn't play any FOTMs or Minecraft for her first year in hololive, she didn't even own a Switch, even stopped Watame from being a numberfag.

>> No.12149015

>>12148581
I think we all know the answer to that anon.

>> No.12149123

>>12148581
I haven't seen any 4chan chubaa yet. We are far from our full potential of schizophrenia in the vtuber community

>> No.12152486

>>12076970
>>12091268
>>12096299
>>12099605
>>12118089
>>12105043
>>12098643
some of her fetishes are morally questionable, and she might have ADHD.

>> No.12153153

>>12076726
Being lesbian is a severe mental illness

>> No.12153251

>>12152486
Wtf Marine has ADHD?

>> No.12153493
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ACCURACY IS NEEDED!

>> No.12153899

>>12153251
well, she exhibits some symptoms associated with it. low self-discipline/willpower, easily distracted and so on.

>> No.12153915

>>12153251
Aside from dropping out school I don't see in her any quality of an actual ADHD

>> No.12154015

>>12153493
Seriously why is Ollie in bottom tier, she just irresponsible as zoomers usually are

>> No.12154050

>>12153493
>irys
>normie

Watching her talk about anime during Mori's Jump King stream I think she is most otaku out of HoloEN tied with Ina.

>> No.12154170

>>12153493
>Choco
>normie
Just because she knows how to play The Game, doesn't mean she's not a complete degenerate.

>> No.12154308

>>12133399
Yes and I'm officially revoking your clipfag membership too.

>> No.12154342

>>12153493
Mostly ok to me.

>> No.12154357

>>12076726
Move Haato and Aqua down one and i'd agree.

>> No.12154842

>>12153493
Probably the most accurate list so far, especially getting all the normie members sorted out.

>> No.12155683

>>12153493
Polka's too high, she shouldn't be on the same level as Subaru or higher than Marine.
(you might also need another tier.)

>> No.12155864

>>12153493
>Polka that high
Someone hasn't heard about her member streams

>> No.12156489

>>12154308
I'm not that anon I was just asking out of curiosity

>> No.12156690

>>12076726
Sana should be moved up to at least Questionable. She's pretty normal
>B-BUT SHE'S SAD BECAUSE HER DOG DIED
Yes you sociopath.

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>>12076726
It's a prerequisite.

>> No.12157268

>>12076726
I wouldn't judge Bae as sane. She could be, but she's way too guarded to say anything for sure.

>> No.12158431

>>12098643
Subaru should be above Marine.

>> No.12161566

>>12153493
why is Haachama a NPC?

>> No.12168653

menherachama

>> No.12169410

>>12153493
Suisei should go one tier up

>> No.12170947

Why is polka considered so menhera I've never seen her crack on stream before

>> No.12172458

>>12170947
Are you membered?

>> No.12174543

>>12135040
>Matsuri
link

>> No.12174675

>>12161566
>Call of Chtulu
>reaching 0 sanity looses the game and you either go utterly useless or become a dangerous NPC.

>> No.12179467

>>12078309
Bold of you to even consider that majority in /vt/ have met a woman outside of their immediate families. Everyone here would prematurely come if a woman so much as tap them on the shoulder to ask a question.

>> No.12184261

>>12117835
>>12119826
don't you think it's a bit hasty to say someone's depressed or autistic just because they're more low-key? (and she emotes all the time.)

>> No.12184999

>>12184261
No anon you don't understand. Everyone is repressing their feelings and therefore are depressed and autistic, just like US.

>> No.12188364

i think chama's fever is frying her brain, she's going to be more crazy then before

>> No.12196260

>>12076726
List is so wrong

>> No.12198678

which one of the girls is most likely to stab one of the other ones?

>> No.12205660

cringe

>> No.12207249

>>12198678
Matsuri will stab everyone

>> No.12207987

Kiara having heavy daddy issues for sure means she's in the correct spot for OP

>> No.12208120

>>12076726
jfc kill yourself

>> No.12208199

>>12076726
Clip watching retard
Suzy is one of the most normie well adjusted holos to the point that all the autist holos are scared of her

>> No.12213264

bump

>> No.12213900

>>12076726
definitely a clipwatcher/threadreader tier list

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ftfy

>> No.12215322

>>12076970
>marine talks about being a child sex predator on multiple occasions
>is constantly horny
>no she doesn't have major issues

>> No.12215361

>>12215322
ok clip watcher

>> No.12218459

This thread is retarded

>> No.12219478

>>12077898
Kronii is both autistic and menhera

>> No.12219586

>>12103730
Ame is pro treason? Get me out of this timeline.

>> No.12219774

>>12153493
lol Ritsu being nuts cuz she's a squirrel lol

>> No.12222092

>>12219586
>leftist thinks orange man bad, peaceful protesters good.
Ame would have burned down the capitol like a real historical figure. virtual-TIFA has to hide their true intentions behind a veneer of activism.

>> No.12223705

>>12117852
I'm mostly a clipfag when it comes to her but I remember seeing a couple about her dad that made him seem like he was very unhappy in life, shit like her seeing him alone with their pet rabbit saying that it was his only friend in the world, and begging her as a child to keep him and his wife together. Obviously some genetic mental fuckery there.

>> No.12223914

>>12120724
she needs to quit vtubing, she's not interested anymore and it's painful watching her halfass her content. I don't blame her since she's been at this for most of her adolescense, but it's clear she desires a different type of life

>> No.12224330

>>12208199
Anon, Suisei is not a normie. She is an otaku.

>> No.12226314

>>12118518
>cancels streams the moment she starts to feel
TUMMY HORT
>leaves all her stream ideas unfulfilled
...

>> No.12227111

>>12223705
I guess should've specified that most of Rushia's standard menhera behavior seen on stream for everyone came from her father's relationship with her mother. I was just lazy and said "somewhere". There was also further ripple effects from up the family tree from one of her grandparents being fucked up. Whether those parts are majority genetic or upbringing/social surroundings or a combination isn't a question I can't answer, I mean certainly her dad's profession didn't help his mental health either. The childhood parts just established her standard menhera levels though, like her ending up around at worse Polka levels, the more worsening and amplification came from later in life; she also could've potentially ended up more better mentally adjusted like her brother, who despite having more suppressed emotions otherwise has no problems and is generally an oustanding guy.

>> No.12227158

>>12227111 (me)
isn't a question I can answer*
fuck. I meant I can't answer that question.

>> No.12228444

>>12223914
when did she start halfassing her content in your opinion?

>> No.12230015

>>12228444
Like 9 months ago

>> No.12230474

>>12103730
She voted for Gary Johnson in 2016.

>> No.12230781

>>12076726
>Choco
You know she also does marathon streams as her roommate right?
She has zero concept of time, and a serious addictive personality.

>> No.12230816

quick rundown on polka? barely watch her but a lot are saying shes barely keeping it together

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>>12227111
Ok Freud.
>you just haven't done your reps like I have
pic semi related from another conversation I had in the past, but I've done my reps. Bilibili made it relatively easy anyway, although stuff leaking onto there are why she locked her account for the first time post-Rushia
>but I've been deeper than you
Post the first kanji in the name of the hospital she worked in a few years ago and I might even believe you

>> No.12234692

>>12230816
She makes batshit insane members-only parasocial-baiting posts

>> No.12234756

>>12214759
Suisei up, noel down. Accurate otherwise

>> No.12235092

>>12076726
>Polka
>questionnable
She's probably the most crazy
>Korone
>questionable
She's clinically regarded https://files.catbox.moe/k7m63y.mkv
>Aqua
Good choice, I don't know how she can still be this shy after so many years of meeting new people and animating streams

>> No.12235195

>>12119269
>posting on 4chan
>normal human being
I got some bad news for you Anon

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>>12131662
Mumei is a bit quirky but most of her really odd behavior is likely due to being constantly sleep deprived more than anything else.

>> No.12238831

Nobody is sane

>> No.12238915

>>12235092
> I don't know how she can still be this shy after so many years of meeting new people and animating streams
Shy and socially anxious are different things you fucking mongrel

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>>12144713
>Also Kiara in bottom tier, I will never understand the obsession of vt with orange woman (especially when people only watch clipbait clips)
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1635594643170.webm

>> No.12241774

>>12241696
Kiara is somewhat damaged because of her traumatic years as a wannabe idol in black companies, however she's still sane and has learned to care less about what people think of her and just doing what she wants. She's not even close to being the most menhera in Hololive, she's probably around the middle.

>> No.12243622

>>12241696
Yeah I only watch her because she told me so, what do you mean by this? Is something wrong with that?

>> No.12245355

>>12103730
This isn't pol. You don't have to pretend to not be a centrist here.

>> No.12250761

>>12076726
>aqua there

>> No.12253949

ITT: Clipwatchers

>> No.12254158

>>12153493
Coco is clearly /here/ and one of us, she just knows how to hide it well like you're supposed to as a vtuber.
>>12253949
>"D-Do I fit in yet?"

>> No.12255367

>>12098643
What is wrong with Aqua? I haven't watched her, so I really don't know. Some clips I've seen suggest she might be a bit slow, but is that an issue?

Same question for Shion.

>> No.12255505

>>12230474
Based

>> No.12255641

>>12255367
Shion is quite depressed, or at least used to be. She is one of the youngest holos, just like Haachama, Wich doesn't help for dealing with antis or your channel doesn't growing. People here had said that her in her roomate account she talks about being betrayed and that kind of stuff, but not at the level of Matuli or Rushia. Also her cat died some time ago.

>> No.12256307

>>12253949
/vt/ is EOP central. What did you expect

>> No.12258757

how is Haachama's current cold/flu affecting her sanity i wonder

>> No.12258889

>>12228444
some other anon said it before, but when management shut down her schizo arc the day before the finale is the day her career died. she has not been interested in streaming since that day

>> No.12263600

>>12258889
she can get back into it, she just needs to drop out if uni. uni is taking all of her time and energy, with that distraction gone and her schedule more free she can do more things

>> No.12269910

bump

>> No.12275871

>>12153493
Irys isn't normie. Complete weeb sperg.

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