/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>you collabed too early therefore you can't play with your friends
actual black company that treats its employees as children

>>12053065
Reza collab fee too high only pomu and Elira can have him

She should have just taken a shit on stream like a normal Niji member.

>>12053065
Surprising absolutely nobody, why is this a thread? We've known this for years

>>12053065
Lmao remember when Sana and IYrS collab early? Remember the fallout from it? Oh there wasn't any NIJINIGGERS BTFO

It also means that you can just not stream for months at a time and nothing will happen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBi9qVBio4g

>>12053065
I thought nijis didnt have a collab ban

>>12053160
I don't think EN girls can do that. Different branches have different rules. For example Hada collabed with IDs less than two weeks after her debut

didn't get enough (You)s in the general, huh?

>>12053144
Sana and Irys are both EN.

>>12053144
Remember that Hololive EN members had to beg Hololive to let Irys collab early I guess we’ll forget that tho.

>>12053065
Nijikekbros.. Why are we keep losing?

>>12053160
Based
Amemori Sayo
https://youtube.com/channel/UCRWOdwLRsenx2jLaiCAIU4A/featured

Sayo Amemori test stream with new equipment
https://youtu.be/fkQVlj9DIL8

Sayo Amemori 20 kbps Stream
https://youtu.be/YPhxHxSHmsw

Sayo Amemori Live 2D 2.0
https://youtu.be/pKE7iMKJGHg

Amemori Sayo new outfit
https://youtube.com/watch?v=q65SySDjoQM

Sayo Amemori in 5 minutes
https://youtu.be/sBworY4rAv8

Sayo Amemori visits your apartment
https://youtu.be/KHH2Gs7Z8JQ

Sayo Amemori translated Playlist (Updated)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9dw4pXgcXunJmSsjHRGfwWBlmOMOahaW

>>12053065
don't care as long as i have Selen

>>12053238
>beg
she just went in there and did it
you cried your eyes out when it happened. you were seething and fuming
glad you hypocrites are getting fucked now

>>12053193
It seems like a new policy. A retarded one if so.

The fuck's up with you fags, so when Nijisanji copies Hololive's policies it's suddenly bad? But when Hololive copies Nijisanji's policies they're "based and redpilled!"

>>12053065
uh oh

>>12053267

>>12053312
Kek

>>12053312
My fucking sides

>>12053312
Not to mention that like, I think the collab ban is dumb but it's nowhere near as retarded as the Holo one. No inter-branch collabs is much less severe than "No inter-generational collabs, and if it's just you in your gen you're shit outta luck"

>>12053200
True, I think in the application form for EN there was something about streaming for a minimun of 3 times a week or something which doesn't seem to be the case for other branches.

>>12053065
I don't believe this hololive leecher bitch's words, she has history of twisted other words and made a drama out of it for attention like Mocca's drama. Probadly she didn't even ask manager and now olaying woe is me.

>>12053312
Good one anon

>>12053305
Ever since Meiro they got tough on that. She abandoned her genmate to collab with big Nijis quickly to get big and eventually turned out to be a bitch so they're cautious about this thing.

>>12053193
they've had it for awhile, typically its only lasts until the first full wave collab... some waves have done it day 1. not sure what she's talking about here

>>12053312
Based

>>12053335

>>12053394
Nijiniggers are the only ones that think that. Its common practice in EVERY vtubing group EXCEPT nijisanji. It lets you establish a active audience that is there for, and read this part with exceptional care >>>>>Y O U<<<<<< and >>>>>Y O U<<<<<< alone
No collabs means no leecher subs and no boosted subs, its all on your own work

>>12053312
Of course. Hololive is best when they do it!

>>12053312
Wtf holobros, we got fucking destroyed

>>12053312
Hololive is charging collab fees now?

>>12053312

>>12053464

the fuck do you mean collabing TOO EARLY?

>>12053509
Always have been. Didn't you see the charges when collabing with Myth?

>>12053065
I love how all these Ethyria bait threads are popping up now that there's several threads up about Council's imminent failure.

>>12053483
But that doesn't make sense with the way Nijisanji is doing it. The other branches they can collab with are all smaller than them. Meanwhile they are OK to collab with anyone in their branch right from day 1 including people who will be much larger than them.

>>12053312
Thanks for the laughs anon

>>12053312
But everyone calls the collab ban thing stupid, and the only point of it is build up the generation as a team before releasing them. However, this ban has been skirted many times such as Sana being on Ame in the AM and earlier than that, people appearing on Asacoco before collab ban was up.

>>12053312
lmao

>>12053545

>>12053281
>she just went in there and did it
Ogey Anon they definitely didn’t bitch and moan on Twitter LMAO. Never seen a group of people more bitch made and oblivious.

>>12053065
Aren't they supposed to organize collabs via their managers anyway?

>>12053160
different contracts. for en they have a minimum 3 streams/week

>>12053686
Yes, and management approves their schedules too. The fact that it got this far before someone went "actually you can't do that" is retarded. They should've just sucked it up and let this collab be an exception

>>12053686
The Filipina is a third worlder and rules for her are things to "circle around" rather than obey. Remember when they told her not to stream Ace Attorney's ending and she unabashedly tweeted that "I will try to find some way to indirectly show the ending". People shitpost about Nina but SEAnigs like her are more likely to cause yabs in a Japanese company

>>12053730
After the nina catastrophe you really cant blame them for keeping them on a leash

>>12053631
True. But a Cameo is completely different from a Collab. The only time that the ban has ever truly been skirted was during Gura and Mumei's minecraft stream. Honestly, I didn't really like the collab ban at first, especially when IRyS debuted Solo with no genmates. I even thought that NijiEN's quick debuts were a better format. But with how much NijiEN wave 3 is floundering and how Selen inadvertently sucked their debut buffs away, I kinda get the reason for it now.

>>12053065
>>12053686
Maybe it's Millie who didn't ask her manager and when the manager found out, she bonk her hard and now that bitch goes on twitter and crying woe is me for the attention
She has history of used twitter drama to get attention

>>12053659

>>12053844
Petra had a collab with Amicia in less than a month. Why create a sudden rule or adopt a sudden rule for the THIRD gen?

>>12053820
>Nina catastrophe
>Highest supa earner in her branch so far
>On par to get 100k subs possibly by next week
???
Don't tell me you thought the stupidity pushed here actually affected anything.

>>12053865
The others have talked about the collab for a week and again, they have to submit their schedules to management. They could've caught this at any point and were too stupid to do so until it was close enough to be shitty.

Nothing ever goes right for this flip lmao. At this rate she's going to become EN's Noraneko
https://streamable.com/tl5gt9

>>12053898
>he has no idea what he is talking about and thinks people are talking about numbers
are all nijiniggers this retarded or are you just a special case?

>>12053312
You murdered him

>>12053934
He means that no matter what people on this board try and stir up shit about, it clearly doesn't effect anything outside of here. So there's no reason for management to give a shit.

>>12053193
They do but Nijis rules for collab bans are different than Holos

>>12053928
Jesus Christ, she really might

>>12053065
Of all the policies to take from Hololive, they took that one? Why?
I was not very happy that Polka got bonked by her management just because IRyS was clumsy.

>>12053886
Not really sure. I don't know why but I get the feeling that Nijisanji management is doing things on the fly for the EN branch which is stupid since this is not their first international branch and NijiEN, technically, is their most succesful Non-JP, Non-VR, branch.

It's a retarded policy but unless she wants to claim she was never told about the policy it's still on her for just ignoring it when making her schedule. The manager shouldn't need to babysit them over basic shit they know about and it's bizarre that's what people here seem to want management to do.

>>12053928
>At this rate she's going to become EN's Noraneko
don't fucking insult my mad cat like that, you filthy seanig queen will never reach Hajime's talent, let alone my cat

>>12053934
No retardchama, I know precisely what youre talking about, you fags certainly spammed the board enough with it.
My point is that Nina has done no "disasters", its just dumb shit pushed here that has affected nothing and has no bearing on why Millie can't participate.

>>12053934
I think he is just saying that regardless of how much seethe she might have generated here with whatever she has said or done since or before debut, whatever she is doing seems to be working considering she looks on course to be the most popular of her generation.

Holobronies, I think we got the nijiniggers this time!

>>12053065
Why would they have rules if it was perfectly fine to break them whenever you feel like it? I don't really see a problem here and nijisanji was never about absolute freedom or whatever, remember it's the company that actually fired livers due to shit like contract breach or questionable twitts on roommate account not to mention that whole Hoshikawa stamp affair. Niji audience also tends to be more schizo or at least there are more trolls around it.

>>12053238
I don't think they were exactly begging but IRyS was all alone so collab ban seemed pretty unfair in this case, glad it was halved.

>>12053928
This bitch doesn't have as much entertainment value in her whole body as noraneko has in her fucking belly button. Never compare them

>>12053984
Considering this >>12053065 and the fact that nina thought she could get away with it by deleting the video and hiding behind "whoops audio problems :)" seems to me like its working. The question remains, why are you defending her?

>>12053312
big grass

someone post this on re*dit

this just proves that only vshojo keeps winning

>>12053312

>>12054014
Their scheduling goes through management. Either someone just wasn't paying attention or they don't communicate enough.
It's not unreasonable for her to think "Ok, it's a group collab instead of a 1-on-1, maybe that's ok" and ask for approval. Which she clearly got, even if it was rescinded later.

>>12054157
Really, Ethyria made me watch wave 3 less and watching other smaller org and Vshoujo more, niji scouter really dropped the ball there with how they only hired Elira's boring friends

>>12054082
We've had them for nearly 2 years at this point lmao

>>12053312
I wanna be in the screencap too!

>>12054102
>thought she could get away with it by deleting the video and hiding behind "whoops audio problems :)
I love how you guys keep saying this
Got away with it, like she's guilty of a crime and its not just idiots blowing shit out of proportion again because this board might as well be called /gossip/.

Trying to string someone up for shit you made up in your head is genuine zhang mentality btw, so congrats on becoming the thing you claim to hate.

>>12054268
>Ethyria made me watch wave 3 less
? Ethyria is wave 3

>>12053312
So when is Nijisanji going to charge for their EN Collabs?

>>12054268
ethyria made watch selene and ignore the new wave.
i dont give a fuck about any of them but watched the colab witht he dragon and it was fun. i dont think im alone and im almost sure most tourist that came to check them out just stay fro selene

>>12054102
"Nina had a fuckup and had to delete the stream" is nowhere near a catastrophe. Fucking Elira had to take down 2 streams in a row too, not to mention the Millie and Enna have had way more small things in the same amount of time too.
I have no fucking clue what connection you're trying to make to the OP.
I'm defending her because I like her.
Any further questions?

>>12054001
To be fair, the collab ban is a sound strategy if you look at it from a logical point of view
>Enables the talents to establish themselves individually and as a group
>Fosters stronger group bonds and dynamics
>Increases the chances of creating loyal fans
>Creates anticipation for when the Collab ban is lifted and the talent can interact with the main group, thus giving them another boost post debut.
Hololive itself didn't do the whole Gen Unity shit until Gamers and then Gen 3 perfected it. They even made a pact that they would not stream over each other during their first year. It worked and now it's become standard now.

>>12054337
Oh then Raito can come back to Nijisanji? After all he also doxxed vtubers

>>12054201
>Their scheduling goes through management.
What evidence do you have that they submit their entire schedule for approval rather than just ask about permissions for games or "abnormal" streams?

>>12054353
This month, Reza has to shell out when Pomu and Rosemi comes into his DnD stream.

Maybe i'm completely fucking crazy and whatnot but didn't both Lazulight and Obsydia collab quite early with other branches (ID and KR, i'm ignoring the world collab with Sukoya that was definitely set up by management before they lazulight even debuted)

Small Corpos stay winning.

>>12054423
I think Petra's collab was within 4th week

>>12054392
Half of them talk about this shit every week, and they mention it on twitter too. You'd know that if you actually watched them.

>>12054268
they didnt only hire anyones friends though? Reimu and Nina arent related at all.

You tribalist faggots get worked up over the stupidest shit.
Please never change. I love it

>>12054561
Then surely you can link someone saying they submit their entire schedule for review each week, correct?

>>12054576
Reimu is Petra's friend.

>>12054738
Here
>>12054691
Now kill yourself.

>>12054815
That's Elira though, maybe that seanig just sneaky change the schedule, there's noway they approved it and then change it last minute

>>12055015
Literally no reason to assume that, but ok.
Nice goalpost move I guess.

>>12055077
>Nice goalpost move I guess.
not an argument

didnt reim and millie collabed with sellene already?

if so why have this half ased rule?

>>12055200
Neither is
>Elira is special because I say so
If anything it forces the rrat further because she is Eliras friend and it would make sense that they share a manager

>>12055200
>Niji livers have to submit their schedules
>Source
>They've talked about it
>Post proof
>Example of one of them talking about it
>Yeah but that's not Millie specifically
Really makes you think

>>12055284
The ban is presumbably on inter-branch collabs, not inter-wave collabs. Which is dumb, but less dumb than Hololive's

HoloEN can talk about poop too, they just choose not to much of the time because it’s low brow. They can probably talk about dick too, they just know it wouldn’t be a good idea with the kind of audience they have.

>>12053065
Not trying to troll but I thought Nijisanji does not have collab bans? Do they just not have internal bans but do have a cross-branch one? How long is it, one month? And why would their manager let her do something she wasn't allowed to do?

>>12055426
Cross branch ones yeah not in branch ones. All of Ethyria has collabed with someone in EN

>>12053844
>The only time that the ban has ever truly been skirted was during Gura and Mumei's minecraft stream
They never streamed together or joined VC, they just happened to be in the server at the same time and interacted through chat. That is not a collab.

>>12055391
nkodice...
>>12055426
A lot of people (including me) thought they didn't, but I guess so. Definitely just between branches though, and presumably someone just fucked up or there wasn't enough communication between staff.

>>12055340
is dumber to half asses it.
Te colab with selen just show how most of their viewers went to selene chanel rather than watch the new girls. is to avoid that kind of situations and elt the girls form an initial fanabse.

>>12055426
>And why would their manager let her do something she wasn't allowed to do?
That is a suspicious part but >>12055015
does seem have a point, people are quicky jump on the vtuber's side and shit on management but sometime, the vtuber is a bitch

What does collab early mean, start the stream before the others?

>>12055686
Collabing before her collab ban is lifted

>>12053065
>poop jokes and talking about sucking dick
Hey dont talk about Enna like that. Yes nigger finana i know, but still. Show some respect to the first black vtuber on Nijisanji.

>>12055015
At a bare minimum Pomu, Rosemi, and Millie all submitted the schedule with the collab. I don't know how it works in ID but given that international collabs are often facilitated with management's help (Selen specifically talks about this in her collab with Bonnevier), Reza's manager was aware and would have brought it up with EN management, and likely so would Layla's and Derem's. That's six different places for management to have caught it and failed to.

>>12055613
5 other people were involved with the collab. Unless you think they all snuck her in too?

>>12055879
>bringing up a vtubers past
That is illegal. What she did as a drama stirring idiot is irrelevant now that she is in nijisanji
Stop talking about it

>>12055768
>Show some respect to the first black vtuber on Nijisanji.
Is that true ?

Petra's collab was in her 4th week after debut. Millie and the rest of WAVE 3 have only been around for like, 2 weeks so far. At best I think Millie should have waited on her 4th week. Since it seems like the ban is lifted after a month or after 4 weeks have passed. Could be wrong, but I think its worthwhile to note that Ethyria just literally debuted 2 weeks ago.

>>12054337
>Trying to string someone up for shit you made up in your head is genuine zhang mentality btw
Funny how that works

>>12054369
Absolutely not alone. Selen was the only thing that made that gaggle of fucking ESL """"EN"""" girls tolerable. Gave her my first membership too because of it.

>>12053434
Shame, her avatar was sex.

>>12055876
If they have different managers then it's not their duty to talk about it, they just approved their vtuber schedule and don't care about other, i doubt ID managers know nijiEN just debut a new gen

>>12056217
You do not care about Aloe or Delutaya.

>>12053065
>No issue collabing with gen/wave mates.
>JP have over 80 livers alone.
They have freedom.

>>12056349
You do not care about Chitose or Nina

>>12056349
Not an argument

>>12056442
I care about Nina. I don't know anything about Chitose, but I'm not using her as a weapon in an argument like you.
What I do care about is Triangle, and I wish you people would stop using her for your bullshit.

>>12056442
I listen to chitose's roommate music allll the time tho. I don't care about nina though lmfao

>>12056321
cross-branch collabs are organized through management on either side

>>12053798
>>12053798
>>12053928

>>12053065

This was off branch collab. In Hololive this would not be possible at all in the first place.

Interesting how she's allowed to say management bonked her without having to delete the tweet.

>>12053798
People said Nina is the final yab of nijiEN but I think that hololive leecher SEAnig is the true ginal yap of nijiEN, she ahs history of created drama for her attention gain

>>12056298
There are literally no ESLs in wave 1 nor 2.

>>12053065
What? I've been told that Nijisanji doesn't have a collab ban. It's a point that's been used to attack hololive many times.

>>12056608
In Hololive the branch/off-branch collab ban ends at the same time, one month. IRyS was the exceptino with a 2 week EN ban and a 1 month off-branch because she didn't have genmates.

>>12056349
To be fair no one actually cares about Aloe
Holo or not

>>12056695
Rosemi is clearly an ESL and Petra is also ESL but speaks clearly enough it isn't an issue.

>>12056745
The same applied to council too, Irys isnt a exception

>>12056752
I do, that's why I get pissed about people using her in arguments like this.

so glad I left for indies

>>12056833
Council had a full month ban for both branch and off-branch collabs. They kind of skirted the rules with Gura and Mumei in Minecraft but technically there were no collabs within the month.

>>12056820
You could argue that Rosemi is ESL even if it is her 'first' language, but calling Petra ESL is just a dead giveaway that you aren't a native speaker yourself.

>>12056820
Petra's Chinese is much worse than her English.

>>12056983
Probably going off early narratives about her being Chinese.
She's pretty clearly just a kid of immigrants who had decent enough Mandarin/Cantonese to make it on Bilibili in her past life.

>staff didn't catch it in time
>force a public retraction
>ban collabs for the same time frame as Hololive despite releasing chubas at twice the speed or more
They must've not understood the meaning of "accelerate."

>>12057114
>>ban collabs for the same time frame as Hololive despite releasing chubas at twice the speed or more
Inter-branch collabs. The time between debuts isn't really relevant, because they can collab with their EN senpai day 2 if they feel like it.
The rest was a fuckup on their part though, I won't defend them there.

>>12056960
>Debut date: 2021/08/23
>1st collab: 2021/9/9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpo2n2gZmnQ
Stop lying

Collab bans make no sense.

>>12056695
>Wave 1 and Selen in wave 2*
ftfy. Don't care about JP rejects です.

>>12057244
Retard

>>12057305
Petra is not ESL, and Rosemi just got fucked by growing up bilingual and has a lisp.

>>12057305
I think reddit is more your speed.

>>12057298
>hire someone for potentially high paying job that has to interact with others.
>let them have free reign right out of the gate and potentially fumble/yab with and annoy a more experienced member
>also could be hardcore stalkers waiting to drop a bomb on a talent
Kiara and Pekora for example. You don't want clout chasers coming in and ruining someone elses career because you're lack of ability to wrangle an employee.

>>12056695
Pomu is the only native westerner and a native english speaker (read: white girl) in the entire EN branch

>>12057497
>Nina
>Reimu
check mate faggot

>>12057244
That says October 8th for me. Are you using the Julian calendar Orthodox-chama?

>>12057583
Slavs are not white.

>>12057583
>native english speaker
>(read: white girl)

>>12057583
Isn't Reimu Mexican?

>>12057672
They're both white though?

>>12057725
Columbian, but you can be hispanic and white if you're mostly Spaniard

>>12057497
Okay, that's not what we were talking about though.

>>12057734
They're about as white as nijisanji thinks fucking India, Canada and the entire south east asian sea is considered EN

>>12057098
Petra is Japanese. That's why she can speak....Japanese. A lot of them stream on bilibili for whatever reason, even Holos used to and there's still a sizeable Japanese streamer community there.

>>12057583
>lists two confirmed ESLs
That has to sting. The majority of niji-fucking-EN are ESLs after wave 3.

>>12057766
Same thing. Either way it's not a native English speaker.

>>12057784
>Petra is Japanese.
Anon?

Since when did Nijis do collab bans

>>12057778
>Canada
>Not EN
?????
And the one SEA member is also Canadian

>>12057583
Anon, do you not know what ESL means? You literally just posted two of them as a point arguing the opposite.

>>12057918
I think the problem is that it's with NijiID guy and they are playing a game with serious perms. This was never a problem before.

>>12053065
My Lola graduated only to be scammed into working for a black company...

>>12057918
I think this is just a smokescreen for not paying the right amount of collab fee.

>>12057784
She's Chinese she learned Japanese for otomes, retard. She literally spoke chinese and said her mom knows only a few Japanese words so she's confused about when she plays otome games on the computer.

>>12057965
Canada is a chinese colony

>>12058072
IRS got to her ass first. The black company is her only way out.

>>12058072
Can you tell her to fuck off from nijiEN? Leeching doesn't work in nijisanji

>>12057918
None of the Lazusydia girls (or the new ID girls) did out-of-branch collabs within (roughly) a month, so it's possible it's not a new policy. They've just never, you know, gotten it approved a week in advance until having it suddenly revoked 2 days before, so it hasn't really come up.

>>12058059
Maybe their rates went up seeing that males continues to perform better than their female counterparts?

>>12058176
>Can you tell her to fuck off from nijiEN? Leeching doesn't work in nijisanji

I wish I could take her back but she's forever stuck in the Maldives...

>>12057404
Pretty sure Petra's a chinky.

>>12058395
English is her first language, and I don't know Canto so I can't confirm, but I've heard her's is like, elementary school level. Her parents are Chinese, she was born outside there (probably in America, but she's pretty cagey about even showing her timezone).

>>12058313
There are more 5-10k Niji girls than males.

>>12058543
Don't respond to the "Niji has a collab fee" anon.

>>12058592
Dont push "hololive has a collab fee" then

>>12058622
OK, I haven't and won't?

>>12053120
Even ID charges quite high now?

I know the collab ban is in place because a jp liver was flamed for collab-begging shortly after debut, but the bird literally collab-begged in her debut stream and nobody cared, so why bother enforcing it at this point

>>12058622
I have never seen someone post that Hololive fee rrat, however I have seen the Nijisanji fee rrat for the past 4 days, in bait threads, Niji generals, and Holo generals.

>>12056321
the ID managers would be aware of company events such as debuts but they wouldnt be fully aware of the rules for the branchs outside of their own and the rules theyve happen to have heard, likely ID staff-san wasnt aware of a collab ban or they assumed that EN staff-san approved it already as its not their place to question.
>>12057244
anon... september 9th wasnt 2 weeks ago

>>12059176
Where did it start, any particular incident?

>>12058395
There're 5 mils chinese-american you know

>>12059398
He posted it unprompted in a bait thread and then in NijiEN general a few days ago. Been doing it since.

>>12057468
Holy shit hololive fans are insane.

>>12059574
It's not about being a fan, it's about taking the minimum to protect your assets.

>>12059574
Insane compared to who?

>>12053065
Nijinigs are trying to be holier then thou on a Korean basket weaving forum on the internet about their chosen corpo by talking about "freedom" and other buzzwords, as if they literally have the contracts and corpo rules on hand and it says their daddy is stronger than yours. Take anything they say with a grain of salt.

>>12060481
who's this? i only watch nijien

>>12053065
>b-but freedom!
I do not recall nijisanji ever making such claims. don't color your worldview with /vt/ babble, fag.
>>12053238
>>12053281
>they had to beg!
>no she just went and did things!
no, chimkin pointed out to management that as irys wasn't part of a group she didn't have as much of a hurdle in building her own brand, and management was like "...true." and shortened her quarantine. do your reps.
>>12056461
clearly. it was a statement.
>>12057468
medicate.
>>12059574
that's not a hololive fan. it's just a faggot who repeats whatever he sees said on /vt/.

>>12060481
getting fired at the SPEED OF RAITO

>>12055340
It's still dumb, someone tell Shizuka and let her kill this rule.

>>12053065
oh no nijibros! what happened???

>>12053065
You failed with shitposting Finana, you failed with Petra, you failed with Rosemi, you failed with Nina, and you'll fail even faster with Millie.

You'll be back to shitposting about Kiara in a few hours after some "yab" at the TTRPG.

>>12060949
>/vt/ babble
It has spread out from /vt/ actually, you can see it in comments and on Twitter too.

>>12053312
Based schizo kek

Debiru + Mashiro + Lulu + gibara = only reason to watch Nijisanji

>>12061134
Millie tried to collab too early. Ethyria just debuted 2 weeks ago. The out of branch collab ban is specifically set for 1 month. So Millie trying to do a collab rn with ID is a NO-NO. This isn't a new rule, presumably it's been since wave 1 or at the very least wave 2, but no other NIJI EN member has done what Millie tried to do, so this is the first time it's ever been a problem. Millie might have already known of this rule, so I don't know if she purposely tried to tip toe around it, but either way, she was scolded by management. I don't think she did it out of malice, or malicious intent.

>>12060838
Shindo Raito. Niji liver graduated 2 days after debut when post on his personal account made it obvious he would be a danger to the girls.

>>12061663
Management approves the schedules tho

>>12061739
And it was management who scolded her. So I don't know what happened in the process of scheduling Anon, but again, in the end, she was still scolded by management for trying to collab too early with ID.

>>12061663
>The out of branch collab ban is specifically set for 1 month
LazuLight collabed with JP, ID and VR during their first week, though?

>>12062065
Oh and KR.

>>12062124
>>12062124
Their first collabs are all 4 weeks or over their debut

>>12062065
Like I said, this rule could have initially started with wave 1, or quite, very much possibly WAVE 2, OBSIDYA.

But here is Millie confirming, that, yes, there is a ban for at least 1 month.

>>12062414
So they're just as restrictive as hololive?
OK, got it

>>12062565
They can collab with branchmates but not inter branches out of the bat.

>>12062414
>we're not in the first month yet
What did she mean by that?

>>12062700
Ethyria literally debuted 2 weeks ago. It hasn't been a month yet since they debuted.

>>12062809
They're IN their first month, though.

>>12062845
ESL, plz understand

>>12055876
>>12056321
>>12059270
If i remember correctly ID managers are just bunch of two or more people organizing them all, they always held a meeting to discuss with the livers from collabing, big event, and schedule stuff. Basically they had to prepare tons of things before jumping in

>>12061739
>>12062031
It's definitely has to do with schedule change because she forgot to tell the manager

>>12062845
Nigga they are still fresh debuted, give them another two weeks or so

>>12053065
This was one of the things that Kaida Haru got flamed for early on right?

>>12064400
Literally no reason to believe this, and plenty of evidence they have to submit their schedules to their managers before hand. It's much more likely she did get approval and then a higher up vetoed it today.

>>12064521
He got flamed because he was trying to leech of popular member like Kuzuha and Kanae, banking their collab slot

>>12064849
I thought he got flamed for trying to collab with Gen 1 then got hit with double flames for leeching off first gen, and only wanting to collab with women
Then he tweeted something along the lines of what's the point of being a vtuber if you can't collab. He had a point.

>>12064849
No. I'm talking about the early on flame.
>>12065011
Could've been something like this. Its been awhile. I just remembered the dude got a lot of shit early in his career. He's fine now and gets gacha work, which is good because honestly he's design is the only good one among his group.

>>12065155
I remember how it was the Chihiro apex stuff. That's also why people schizoed out when he merely made a tweet saying Suisei's tetris was good, because the Nijifags who hated him thought he was trying to leech again.
On the other side, the female fans are mad at him for not collabing ENOUGH with his genmates. It's kinda funny.

>>12065299
>the female fans are mad at him for not collabing ENOUGH with his genmates
Those are the real fans because the real fans are the one that just want their oshii to grow regardless of anything else.

>>12065371
Idk, they were trying to dislike bomb him on his birthday over it.

>>12065299
>he merely made a tweet saying Suisei's tetris was good, because the Nijifags who hated him thought he was trying to leech again.
nice try but it was holobronies that harassed him

>>12053595
>Council's imminent failure
>Kronii had a menhera moment
>still streaming to >10K for a zatsudan

>>12053065
To be fair, if you blatantly ignore the very few rules your company sets up, you have to be cracked down on or the company is seen as worthless

Remember when Council was collabing via Minecraft with Myth/IRyS? Then it just magically stopped happening until the ban time was lifted

>>12053312
The tribe I'm in is based and redpilled, the other tribe is cringe

>>12066266
Anon, you can link to the small amount of Hoshiyomi freaking out in his replies, but you don't see the anonymous shitposting that was going on about him at the time. Two types of people can hate on one person at the same time.

>>12053227
Polka wasn't and she was the first one Irys did an impromptu collab with.

>>12067310
>Polka wasn't
That ain't no collab, just interaction
No VC = not collab dumb holobros

>DnD 5e
Such is the fate of the wicked

>>12053267
This is how you fucking market your talents. Cover, take note.

>>12053160
We also thought that way back then with NijiIN but they got axed eventually.

>>12069937
afaik NijiIN all streamed regularly.

>>12053160
ayame once had a period of 6 months without any streams or videos only 1 recorded in advanced. and she isn't fired and still gets paided regularly

>>12057918
Heard that in Niji it's not collab bans but rather unlock collabs, a liver needs to stream a total of some hundred hours before you can collab with others

>>12053312
Yes

>>12071702
Why can't Holofaggots come up with funny rrats? Even people who don't watch can disprove this.

>>12053065
>Nijisanji's "freedom" really does just mean poop jokes and talking about sucking dick

fags are attracted to anything related to sensual content. check out amouranth and see why she is top female streamer

>>12070031
Only Noor did.

>>12077750
Adaya literally streamed more than Noor, faggot

>>12062565
I don't know about "as restrictive as Hololive" since no one here has ever seen their contracts, but anyone who says that Niji don't have their own restrictions for their chuubas is either retarded, or a tribalfaggot baiting for flamewar. Obviously there are restrictions - some might be similar to Holos, and some might not. That's the fate of chuuba belonging to an organization, and for good reason as well. Just look at Twitter and see how many Holofags refused to watch Ethyria members just because of what Nina did.

>>12053065
> Nijisanji's "freedom" really does just mean poop jokes and talking about sucking dick
that's vshojo though

>>12078105
Nina gets more views than the other three in her gen so it's kind of whatever. Those people were never gonna watch her or anyone else in the first place.

>>12053990
What are the difference? Anyone has source of both? e.g. screenshot of their written policies? All I've seen are people talking about them like they have first hand information, but it just sounds like they are pulling shit out of their asses.

>>12078105
How many people is that, a drop in the bucket? I had to bring it up in the main thread that there were only 71 unique IP's at that point. In here it is 100. What is that amount of people not liking someone when that person has over 50k+ subs? The internet allows for things to get around quickly and there are plenty of vocal people from all walks of life.

It's as if you think the world is going to shit if you only look at internet news and not actually walk outside. Of course things will look worse or better when it is aggregated at light speed across the whole world.

>>12078105
I think the confusion comes from this being the first time a Niji talent has confirmed a collab ban exists

I remember Lazulight saying that they could collab with their senpais but chose not to so that they could cultivate a more loyal fanbase instead of just leeching

>>12080313
Watch streams/their twitters. Holo EN at least has a collaboration ban between generations, but they seem somewhat flexible which was a good thing for Irys. Obviously from Millie's Twitter post collabs within her own branch is fine, but being with another branch (ID/KR/JP) seem to have restrictions for a time period.

>>12080465
To be honest, what could Lazulight get from their senpais? A couple people from KR and some from ID? It wasn't likely to talk to JP outside of Elira since she can speak Japanese, but why would you target a JP audience for EN?

>>12080497
Because there could very well be a JP audience for ENs? Gura has JP gachis despite not speaking a word of Japanese

>>12080468
So partly observation and partly guessing.

>>12080465
Pretty much this. There wasn't a collab ban before and now there is out of nowhere.

>>12053312

Welcome to banworld redneck.

>>12080579
Why yes, you can learn things from observing. Pattern recognition is important after all.

>>12080554
There can be, it's just that it isn't an advantageous time zone, and for girls like Pomu and Finana there will be a language barrier further filtering many JOPs that already have plenty of Vtubers in their own language. It would hurt you more than help you trying to "leech" an audience from JP senpais rather than cultivating one in your time zone and language.

See Nijisanji had a problem where newcomers just spammed collabs, it led to their fanbase calling the collab spammers leeches and the notion that they couldn't do solo content, coincidence or not those members are extremely unpopular so they copied Hololive's collab ban where new gens can only collab with each other for like a month since Hololive new members were being way more sucessful than nijisanji newbies, is it because of the collab ban? Who knows.

>>12082691
I'd think its less about fans thinking they are leeches and more about how the newer members have less experience and weaker drawing power so the older members will just absorb any potential new viewers in those early stages.

>>12080793
>There wasn't a collab ban
Are you sure? Any ancientfags can know/look up how long it took for newcomers to collab with senpais?

>>12082723
Anon means fans actually called them leeches, on JP side (and EN side, here.)

>>12082833
I know and I don't think fans calling them leeches is the reason for those members being unpopular. It probably had more to do with early collabs without having a solid base leads to more establish senpais getting the new viewers instead of the newer chuuba.

>>12066302
>Then it just magically stopped happening until the ban time was lifted
It didn't though.

>>12053312
Based

>>12082757
A Nijifag in the Farms pointed out that ID, KR and EN2 took about 1 month each before they collabed with other branches (bar Lazulight because there was a NijiGlobal thing). It's not that there was never a collab ban, more like it was just confirmed that there is, and people were caught unawares

>>12053065
>ayo lemme get some creative freedom
>camwhores
>shows bare ass on stream
>makes retarded "jokes"

Yeah

>>12053065
and the nijiniggers still somehow defend this company

>>12085423
this but with holo

>>12085270
where did this come from

>>12085864
Never reply to posts made by the chinese

>>12053141
Newfag reddit tourists know next to nothing. Holo and Niji both do this and it's so you can't leech off an established senpai as Millie did. Lyrica is an infamous clout climber so it's not surprising she'd break the collab ban. She probably wanted to collab with IDs and JP on her first week.

>>12067310
I heard Polka did get in trouble for that, despite it not being her fault and IRyS being a lost airhead.

>>12085896
How do you manage to function in your daily life when you see imaginary chinamen around every corner schizo-kun?

Why are newfags so retarded, this isn't even from NijiEN 1. Even when Selejo debuted this rule is already there, why an exception?

>>12086201
Proof that they talked about collab ban?

>>12085916
>>12053141
holy nijicope, keep defending their black company like the good bootlickers you are

>>12086367
It keeps happening

>>12086431
The big dogs are all black companies.

>>12066266
>he merely made a tweet saying Suisei's tetris was good
this is where Suisei's fans stops reading and agree with him before going on with their day

The regret is sinking in

>>12086431
>>12086510
You guys think a company with any rules or restrictions is a so-called black company. Actual black companies do things like cut off overtime pay and force you to work for free, have an openly abusive work environment and fire/reprimand anyone that calls it out, or/and put massive amounts of workload on their employees with impossible deadlines to meet thus working them to collapse or breakdown. Other than some bullying that goes on within some agencies, you can't call vtuber companies black kigyo.

>>12086847
We all thought Nina would graduate first but it seems like Millie is doing a graduation RTA.

>>12053312
I don't know if everyone in this thread is mentally challenged but clearly the point to laugh here is that Nijiggers always took "pride" on their freedom to do whatever and easy management just to be proven to have the same rules than holo.
This board gets more retarded everyday.

>>12085916
Yeah, she's gonna leech off of Reza LMAO

>>12087153
>just to be proven to have the same rules than holo.
An inter-branch collab ban is still much less retarded than an inter-gen collab ban.

>>12087153
Eh, at least they never had the inter wave collab ban. Branch bans sounded dumb since they will have no overlap in fans. You don't see Kanae fans going to see how Selen is doing.

>>12056659
It's business related, she's not stating some super deep dark secret.

>>12058160
Is that why Canada is so fucking based?

>>12088071
>You don't see Kanae fans going to see how Selen is doing.
Really?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUadWSh_6Zk
>>12089042
Their PM is the secret cuckchild of Fidel Castro. Canada is the opposite of based.

>>12053267
Subbed

>>12089106
>Trudeau is a Castro
HOLY SHIT SO FUCKING BASED

>>12089106
It's true though. Kanae fans watch Selen only during their collabs. She might have gotten some boosts from collabing with Restya and RPR but Kanae watch him because he's Kanae.

*in Scottish accent*
FREEEEEDOOOOOOOM

>>12053120
>>12058728
This is just adding to Millie's kayfabe of how poor she is lmao

>>12053065
Is this reused bait from VShojo?

>>12092679
But it works since NijiEN is Vshojo but with retards thinking they'll do well on youtube when their target market are on twitch

>>12086847
Based anarchist witch. Burn this black company down from the inside.

>>12086847
So much for the hype eh?

>>12056695
Funnily enough iirc Finana is one, she once said she was a bit lonely when she was tiny because she didn't really know English. No source watch streams.

>>12097126
Poor little baby Hmong.