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12025289 No.12025289 [Reply] [Original]

The true final yab is useless management that let the talents burnout and not whip them up into genki monsters.

>> No.12025346

>>12025289
The final yab is Omega making stupid chuuni lore instead of letting the girls take it easy by just being vtubers and not having to play up stupidly complicated lore, fuck that loser.

>> No.12025412

>>12025289
>Yagoo a Japanese business man running a Japanese business company is retarded

Japanese people really fucking suck at business and management. Fuck I've seen better management at a god damn waffle house in bum fuck no where Louisiana.

>> No.12025421

>"I quit my job to play minecraft!" - Pomu Painpuff

Same thing happened with kroni if you think about it

>> No.12025436

enma should stop being a creep and actually do his job for once.

>> No.12026507

>>12025346
chuuni is a mistake

>> No.12026706

>>12025346
Omega's an idiot because he doesn't understand the actual purpose of lore AND he massively overhyped the shit out of them. The lore is to give the streamer a springboard so the girls have something to talk/joke about to chat. A kind of icebreaker. It also gives fan artists something to draw in the meantime. The streamer shouldn't feel like they're based around the lore, the lore should be based around them and suite their personality. That and the fact the overhype took like three *mystical* lore videos to announce a new gen just pissed people off.

>> No.12026863

>>12026706
Right, the lore should be some light setting details/world building, with a tiny amount of character backstory at most. Not the massive paragraphs of chuuni fanfiction.

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>>12026706
Letting the lore grows gradually is a much better experience for the viewer imho. Nothing beats a normal college student slowly being revealed as an immortal eldritch horror

>> No.12027265

>>12026946
>>12026863
Exactly, the rrat is supposed to be chaos but is normal as shit, making the disparity jarring as you get into it. Watame is literally just a cute sheep. No one cares if that's "too simple" or something. The worst part though is that you actually can make the lore work (though downsized), but they'd have to shift from hiring people for the characters they've already got designed to designing characters around the people they've hired.

>> No.12027288

>>12025412
Waffle House is a humble franchise that's still in business. Comparing them to Hololive is too generous to Hololive.

>> No.12027387

she belongs in nijisanji

>> No.12027554

What the fuck is wrong with Council? What happened to them?
Why are half of them depressed, and why does the other half barely stream? This should be the best jobs all five of these girls will ever have in their lives.

>> No.12027600

>>12027554
>money
>no passion
>uni
>bf

>> No.12027606

>>12027554
Only Kronii is depressed, and Sana has her childhood dog just die. The rest are doing fine.

>> No.12027638

>>12027554
They seem generally younger than Myth, and less experienced in life. Younger people dont know how great their careers are until its gone.
For example, Ame spent time as a literal Circus Clown, so she can surely enjoy her career as a successful streamer a lot more. Calli has spent a long time creating music and touring etc, so she can also appreciate the fact that she can work in her undies and spend just a couple hours a day on her pc and get a full weeks worth of payment with that alone.

>> No.12027670

>>12027554
nepotism hires but with unqualified people

>> No.12027676

>>12025289
Why didn't they just hire genki monsters in the first place? There was plenty of them in the indie sphere. Now NijiEN is swiping them all up

>> No.12027692

>>12027638
Myth were also the first for their branch so they had to do WORK. But to be fair, Gura also took awhile to really get going after her imposter syndrome and shit. I still feel Ame has that. Keeps pushing others instead of herself.

>> No.12027693

>>12027554
Council treats hololive as an ATM except for Bae who knows its a platform to make her dreams come true

>> No.12027698

>>12027554
Kronii
>depression, loss in her family recently
Sana
>childhood friend died
Mumei
>uni, bf
Fauna
>shes chillin, no issues, bf i guess
Bae
>shes chillin no issues
just give them time. This is just 2 months into them this will all be forgotten in a couple months

>> No.12027722

>>12026706
Council lore is just awkward. With Myth, the impression was girls with unique backgrounds that are a bit mysterious. It can be fun to ask them about the Underworld, or Atlantis, or whatever.
With Council, the time/space/chaos stuff is too unrelatable, so the viewer focus is more on the girl being a rat, a dryad, or a helicopter.

>> No.12027749

>>12027554
I suspect that the new management team didn't took care of them very well or maybe controlling them too much. Hell even holomyth started to get depressed before the council debut

They should just take whomever leading their ID team to coach the EN management

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guess which one has a better lore

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>>12027554
greetings, have you heard of our lord and savior Baelz Hakos?

>> No.12027870

>>12027749
>They should just take whomever leading their ID team to coach the EN management
kek, with an ego as big as the self insert omegatroon, not happening.

>> No.12027882

>>12025421
At least pomu was smart about it and kept working while she was streaming in her early days, just to make sure it worked out

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The best talents embrace the pain and turn it into fuel for their friendship.

>> No.12027911

>>12027265
>Exactly, the rrat is supposed to be chaos but is normal as shit, making the disparity jarring as you get into it.
What's tragic is that they almost had it. The way Bae sounds and moves work EXTREMELY well with the model and so do her interests. Hell, going off various discussions she dresses somewhat close to her avatar, too, mixed with the way Towa looks.
But then they had sall this overbuilt lore and it just fucking sucks.
>>12027722
>>12026706
>>12025346
I feel like with Myth the at least some of the talents had a lot more input on who they choose to play or maybe even got to co-design the model.
Mori for example we know (and not from reps, but from ehr own statements, though, yes, from reps too) that she used to be heavily into goth, demon and death type shit, and over the months she's increasingly used her lore as a way to relive and revive her dorky past.

Gura seems to quite like loli and infantilization stuff. Ame seems to have a fair bit of enjoyment of detective stuff even if she doesn'T lean too much into it.
Etc.
Sana is space which factors into her as a person... uh.
Uhm.
Yeah.

Point being. FPBP. Fuck Omega.
As has been said before, he probably saw that JP vs EN Lore webm and decided to take it seriously.

>> No.12027918

>>12027882
She's still working, she just moved to part-time until the end of the year.

>> No.12028045

>>12027882
>At least pomu was smart about it and kept working while she was streaming in her early days, just to make sure it worked out
Also because she has incredibly expensive tastes. She's basically female North American Melonpan. Girl owns at least one MASSIVELY expensive arcade cabinet for a single rhythm game.
I really fucking hope Rosemi's parents force her to keep working.

>> No.12028114

>>12025346
Fpbp

>> No.12028141

>>12028045
She rents an apartment with at least two others, so chances are that Groove Coaster setup is probably her only one. Plus, thanks to COVID, she isn't blowing money at maid cafes and idol events.

>> No.12028163

>>12027692
Ame has that really gay notion that life is supposed to be fair, I think. So her being successful doesn't feel fair to her.
>>12027693
>Council treats hololive as an ATM except for Bae who knows its a platform to make her dreams come true
Bae is an idol in the original sense. As in. It's about the journey rather than, like with western celebs, the finished product.
Most western fans seem to think idol simply means pop star without an SO, but in reality it's, to use 4chan terminology, growthkino.
>>12027870
>>12027749
I like the rrat that EN & Coco management are/were the same people

>> No.12028168

>EN
>Management
There's barely JP management

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>>12026946
>Nothing beats a normal college student slowly being revealed as an immortal eldritch horror
Indeed

>> No.12028282

>>12028163
bae is young, she has more hope than baggage

>> No.12028398

>>12028282
Even with the disappointment of her debut she is slowly gaining the love of everyone, I was one of the anons who wanted ky0 to be the rat but I have to admit that this girl at least is showing having commitment with Hololive

>> No.12028463

>>12028282
>young... hope than baggage
I know you did not intend it, but your words hurt me, Anonymous.

>> No.12028465

>>12027749
The ID manager does nothing other than talk Ollie through her menhera breakdowns. Which tbf means they're probably the hardest working manager in Hololive.

>> No.12028594

>>12028282
>bae is young, she has more hope than baggage
That's an incredibly, uh. That's certainly a way to explain & view things.
>>12028463
This.
Sweet lord, anon.
>>12028398
>Even with the disappointment of her debut she is slowly gaining the love of everyone,
Indeed. She's kinda third wheeling a lot but she puts her back into everything she does and you get a sense of deep dedication and love for her audience in everything she does that's getting people to respect her /despite/ the massive handicap of not (intentionally or not) baiting gachis.

>> No.12028599

>>12027722
>time/space/chaos stuff is too unrelatable
This is the first thing I thought when the themes were announced.
They are very "wide" and "abstract" concepts, and someone without too much experience on roleplaying a character will probably feel overwhelmed by them and won't know what to do, which is to a degree what I feel most of council is going through.
You could say that Ame is also "time" that Mori is "death" or that Ina is "Eldritch horror" and that makes it sound as vague as council sounds, but instead their themes are also funneled into a small character that's way easier for them to play, Ame being a time traveler detective, Mori being a reaper and Ina being a priestess.

>> No.12028819

>>12026706
>streamer shouldn't feel like they're based around the lore, the lore should be based around them and suite their personality

Quote for truth. For that matter this "aspects" stuff hardly matches personalities to begin with so the girls are given awkward half-baked ideas and forced to run with them. How is "time" a personality? "Civilization" isn't a personality or background or character type either. Neither is Space.

Chaos, is THE ONLY thing people actually can connect in their heads intuitively, like "oh yeah, a chaotic person... so like a weird mischievous random guy right." And they hire a girl for it who is not chaotic at all and doesn't fit that description at all and clearly is being forced at gunpoint to screech and try to force it to work when that just isn't her personality. It's terrible, it's all so terrible.

The only Omega redemption point would be for him to admit he made some fucking mistakes with this gen and let himself just become the butt of jokes for the parts that clearly didn't work. His acting all imperious and commanding makes it look like he is incredibly out of touch with what people want and what the talents themselves want to do.

>> No.12028854

>>12028465
I think their plan to put ID talents on Minecraft JP server was brilliant in creating ID growth. Some JP fans would disagree with the move though...

>> No.12029118

>>12028819
>The only Omega redemption point would be for him to admit he made some fucking mistakes with this gen and let himself just become the butt of jokes for the parts that clearly didn't work.
I wouldn't even give him any credit for that. If anything, it's unintentional and just happens to fall into place. He certainly didn't intend for himself to be the butt of jokes.

>> No.12029176

>>12028594
>>12028463
isnt this why we love idols? are you not entertained?

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>>12025289
No, the final yab going to be a publicly available and convincing deepfake of Gura's voice.
And everyone will be able to make her say "Nigger, cunny!" and "I really love you anon"

>> No.12030686

>>12028141
wtf pomu is a rhythm gamer?

They got konmai permissions?

>> No.12030696

>>12025346
Omega is a lolcow, not a manager.

>> No.12030702

>>12027692
It's called being a good person and helping your friends.

>> No.12030737

>>12030686
No permissions yet, she just really likes Groove Coaster. She's told stories about going to arcades in Akiba to play Groove Coaster a bunch of times.

>> No.12031659

>>12027554
kronii is the only standout member this gen and she doesn't even have any defining talents. EN really got lucky with their first gen, where everyone was distinct and allows for a much more diverse audience. gen 2 only have a brown ina, and a niche Asmr girl as their talented members. the rest are generic vtubers with one having a SEX voice.

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>>12025346
>>12026706
Mumei is the embodiment of civilization, so I expected her to play civilization-related games and discuss about history. She had plans for the Anno 1800, Civilization, and even potato history, but then that Omegatranny faggot said no because they're too fucking "yab." This is exactly why complicated lore like concepts and abstracts do not fucking work on any talent who does not have matching personality or roleplaying skills. In those stupid LORE trailers, they fucking marketed them as the embodiments of concepts "time, space, civilization, nature and chaos", but in reality, they don't even fucking live up to what they're supposed to be to the fullest, "the embodiment of concepts" my ass. The worst one is the poor owl girl, she really wanted to play those games and discuss histories on stream, but unfortunately she has to follow the retardly strict "no yab" rules. Fuck you Omegatranny, this is literally one of the worst cases of false advertising.

>> No.12031937

>>12030601
It would be amazing, but cover already has in their guidelines that you can't make those (wonder if someone already tried) so they probably would shut it down really fast as soon as it starts getting popular.
If you think about it as soon as people can make their own Guras saying funny shit they won't need to superchat the original one and that means cover loses money.

>> No.12032237

>>12031937
The main yab would be no longer be able to tell if that was really said by Gura or not.

>cover already has in their guidelines that you can't make those
And? They can barely stop their talents from getting doxxed. They can't shut down shit.

> (wonder if someone already tried)
Yes, but it's a headache and they gave up. The technology is there, but the providers wall it behind "ethics" restrictions.

>> No.12032297

but if management focuses on supporting talent instead of chuuni loreshit, how willl omegatranny, feel important after being bullied in highschool for being a faggot weeb.

>> No.12033089

>>12032297
He deserved it for revealing his power level in highschool.

>> No.12033121

>>12027600
who's who

>> No.12033208

>>12031931
Mumei, the hopium supply is for the hoomans. You're not supposed to drink it too...

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>>12031659
sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex

>> No.12033255

>>12031931
Just put "Events in the game have nothing to do with real life situations or the streamer's beliefs" in the description like every other Strategy streamer.
How hard is that?

>> No.12033474

>>12031931
Is both a shame and a blessing in disguise.
I'd love to have a chuuba playing that kind of games and discussing history and and culture, but at the same time it would have turned her into a massive target of political bullshit, because even if she managed to be super neutral about it there will always be a group sperging out about something stupid like a flag on screen.

>> No.12035248

>>12031931
Instead, she decided that the civilization she represents is either a Steppe horde, Vlad the Impaler, or the Assyrian Empire, and spends most of her time slaughtering NPCs, while occasionally mentioning displaying their entrails as a warning.

>> No.12036778

>>12035248
The Assyrians were pure evil

>> No.12036803

>>12033474
Kaneko Lumi from Cyberlive plays that kind of games

>> No.12037669

>>12027698
>Mumei
>bf
wrong rrat

>> No.12039172

>>12027911
And myth plays with that lore really well, like panicking over a dead shark in a game, mentioning Mori when they die, or Kiara's second debut.

>> No.12041039

>>12036803
Yeah but cyberlive is really lax on their rules or plainly don't give a fuck at all. She has also been interacting a lot with /vt/ after all.

>> No.12042810

>>12037669
It’s definitely a rrat associated with her so it’s not wrong in that sense, it’s simply a stale, possibly inaccurate one that only a handful of schizos still care about.

>> No.12042934

>>12042810
>It’s definitely a rrat associated with her so it’s not wrong in that sense, it’s simply a stale, possibly inaccurate one that only a handful of schizos still care about.
The Mumei BF rrat is not only a rrat but also cope, because she's the only one people have neither PL nor dox on.
People tried a similar thing with Bae for similarly petty reasons since the only info on her is........................................ that she was a 2view that liked Holostars. So they shitposted and whined a bunch but while that rrat is true nobody cared since Brrats aren't unicorns.

>> No.12043217

>>12042810
The whole rrat about who she is is wrong

>> No.12043308

>>12042934
I’d personally agree on both points, while also adding that /vt/ treats Roberu like a self-insert harem protagonist, so it simply became a small meme. I just don’t care enough about the BF rrat arguments because it’s completely irrelevant to the Mumei experience.

>> No.12043431

I like Fauna. She's just vibing.

>> No.12043554

>>12043431
vibing on that Ecock

>> No.12043870

>>12043217
What I meant was that the anon who originally posted it wasn’t confusing her for some other Holo, even if the rrat itself is about as factual as most rrats (questionable at best), on top of most anons having moved on to fresher shitposting opportunities.

>> No.12044534

>>12033474
New girls should learn from myth and stop giving a shit. Take it from Ame, priceless quote: "It's much easier to do the thing, without permission, and then just apologize later." Gura had Taiwan(which is a country, separate from ch*na, btw) flags all over her screen when she enabled the emoji thingie. Did she give a fuck? Nope.

>> No.12049830

>>12044534
>Gura had Taiwan(which is a country, separate from ch*na, btw) flags all over her screen when she enabled the emoji thingie
When was that lol.

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>>12025289
lucky star...
home...

>> No.12050628

3D debuts are the only carrot on the stick dangling over their head to keep on going and renew their contracts, if it weren't for that they would've already graduated already from burnout and permission frustration.

>> No.12053399

>>12043308
>I’d personally agree on both points, while also adding that /vt/ treats Roberu like a self-insert harem protagonist, so it simply became a small meme.
Ye that too.
Probably helps that they threw whatever rigger they had at him so his face is almost as non-reactive as IRyS

>> No.12054355

>>12025346
>>12026706
>>12027911
>>12030696
>>12031931
These are all true.

People forget the other thing: Omegatranny tried to fucking promote and hype himself/itself up as a character, even though that is not the manager's job and position. It tried to steal the focus away from the actual talents who should be the focus, all just to fuel it's ego like what all trannies do. Omegatranny is just a fucking fraudster and a lolcow.

The only reason why A-chan got a model and praised was due to her being a good staff member who is damn good at her job and known for being humble and well liked. She earned her model, and even then, she doesn't try to be the focus of attention. She is the complete opposite of Omegatranny.

>> No.12062444

>>12025289
money is going into chunni lore bullshit videos instead of something like funding projects or equipment.

>> No.12064128

>>12062444
Or face tracking, which cover the tech company is supposed to be good at.

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>>12031931
What I really want to know is how these 'types' of fags make up a small portion of the population but somehow keep worming their way into managerial positions. Who the fuck looks at trannies and sois and says "yeah I want to hire THIS faggot" and if the answer is "the HR is already that type of person" then I want to know why the worthless boomer upper management never thought maybe THOSE faggots shouldn't have been hired.

>> No.12064441

>>12036778
>edomites still seething 2700 years later

You will never be a real israelite

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There is no singular Omega. It's a joint account for the entire management. How do you guys not get it yet? Though I guess people saying Omega will ruin Hololive aren't wrong.

>> No.12064691

>>12054355
Yeah, by the way, i don´t get why Omega is a dude leading a group of girls, i mean, yagoo and the "behind the curtain" staff is ok, but why the hell is he a dude.

>> No.12065138

Why is everyone saying that Omega is a dude/trans? When did we find out anything about the person playing them?

>> No.12065323

>>12065138
a couple of hololive girls referred to Omega as "he" or "they".
If there was anything remotely feminine about Omega, they'd have been "misgendered" as a female.

>> No.12066293

>>12064633
>all the managers sound like an ESL that takes themselves too seriously
Damn they're pretty consisten

>> No.12066559

>>12031931
i wish they'd play Hoi 4/ total war games or something, i am curious how truly smart they really are, games that go bang bang are made for children and anyone can play them fine, they are designed to make you win, you don't fight for victory.

They should play Rimworld, much better than shooty shooty bang bang or *Insert scream* and jumpscare game

>> No.12066706

>>12031931
>>12066559
I disagree, they should stream SS13, then we will see if they are capable of stomaching an entire manual of 100 pages to play one job

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>>12053399
>>12042934
>>12042810
>>12037669
https://nyfco.org/nanashi-zense/#index_id0

>> No.12067494

>>12067417
Even if she had a BF what's the problem? don't tell me you people are getting obsessed over an internet woman you can't even stick your dick into, that would be extremely pathetic

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>>12067417

>> No.12068044

>>12067494
just incels looking for gfe
imagine thinking an egirl pretending to be an anime woman for a living is a catch your standards are pretty damn low
also no one thinks about the flip side, how out of the millions of fans there is bound to be more than a handful of chads with 6 figure incomes that would make any bf feel inadequate. like how does it feel to know that she has fans who are more attractive, smarter, and wealthier than you? dating celebs is never as good as it seems

>> No.12068064

>>12067417
Atleast he's not a nigger

>> No.12068274

>>12067417
that's shachi not mumei, silly goose.

>> No.12068339

>>12068044
This. Made the im@s collab so much better knowing these losers were raging impotently.

>> No.12068715

>>12062444
It's even worse, our money is going into some overambitious harebrained scheme of a "metaverse" videogame, that's guaranteed to either end up as costly wasteful vaporware and never come out, or if it does, it's gonna be an underwhelming babbys first unity store assets genshin clone of a botw clone and it'll be a pathetic embarrassment (I pity the girls who are definetly gonna be forced to play and shill for this shit)

>> No.12069157

>>12033255
Good luck making that stick.

>> No.12069190

>>12065138
If it were a woman, >she would've already come out and we've heard her voice. After all, everybody loves the female managers, and fans would have no problem (after all, simply more girls to simp over, good).

The plausible reason why they're NOT talking, and forever just hide behind their little sassy bitch tweets, is because the dude behind this is in fact a dude.

The most pathetic thing is that his addition is so unnecessary in the first place. What does having this character actually CONTRIBUTE to HoloEN? He's never gonna stream anyway (and thank fuck for that), all he does is tweet snide oneliners from the sidelines and occasionally answer some inconsequential marshmallows.
He's just a distraction at best, and there's no reason for him to exist at all, other than to satisfy some self-insert fantasy (a "final fantasy", if you wish, heh...) for some powertripping chuuni lorefag that's unfortunately lucked himself into a directors position.
If they just wanted an avenue to make official HoloEN announcements and shit, they already have the @Hololive_EN account for that, no one asked for Omega to appear, and nothing would be worse if he disappeared (instead much would be better)

>> No.12069597

>>12069190
maybe he's supposed to just be a hate sponge. if that's the case then it's working

>> No.12069669

>>12025289
Well your half right.
Management is useless, so basically the talent has to do half the work management should be doing so the talent can focus on creating content.

>> No.12070737

>>12065138
>>12065323
i specifically recall kiara referring to omega as 'he'.
also kiara notably despises him.

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>>12025289
>dont push the newfags too hard in terms of responsibility
there's a reason corporations follow this rule, they give a lot of rudimentary work but they also notify the newbie that its not too important if he fucks up.

what omegatranny did with her very very detailed lore is not just put a lot of pressure on the chuubas to act a certain way but also gave them the responsibility of "COUNCIL OF THE WORLD" which these barely experienced chuubas got destroyed with. I'm not kidding when I say the detailed whore will be their downfall.

>> No.12070993

>>12026946
>>12028207
two very good examples of letting the personality take over the lore.
someone kill the tranny before holoEN2 dies

>> No.12071392

>>12067417
what part of the "the rrat about mumei is fake" you didn't understand
you know that this shit was manufactured by seaniggers seething at EN and HER, they even swooped so low to photoshop images of other members """doxx""""

>> No.12071445

>>12031931
>She had plans for the Anno 1800, Civilization, and even potato history, but then that Omegatranny faggot said no because they're too fucking "yab."
no doubt its because of all the wars and european history, european being white and for some reason trannies hate white culture or white people and dont want others to know about white culture for some reason. this leads to our current situation where we lost so much CIV /kino/ from mumei that I will not just ignore omega tranny but anti that faggot every chance I get.

>> No.12071686

>>12025421
pomu didnt quit, she was smart about it.

>> No.12072944

>>12071445
Wtf I hate Omegatranny

>> No.12072984
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>>12025289
If she was going to tank her image, couldn’t she have had the decency to do it last week?

>> No.12073068

>>12071445
That is true. History is yab in current year. Can't show things that hurt feefees.

>> No.12074473

>>12073068
That's true! This is why we all need her to do a confederate playthrough of Victoria 3 when it's released! Also, Deny women's rights! Legalize child labor! If history is offensive we must have done something wrong! The key is clearly alt history! Mumei confederacy forever!

>> No.12074598

>>12064376
Because boomer upper management and 'those' people are very similar. They might come from different places but the conclusions they've reached are the same.

>> No.12074642

>>12071445
How many of the EN girls actually secretly hate white people?

>> No.12074679

>>12066559
Marine and Gura both did Rimworld streams, but abandoned it because they made their coworkers in the game and got too attached. Mumei did two streams, and says that she has to do it on weekends so her brain isn’t fried going in.
>>12067494
>>12068044
>>12071392
Anyone who still believes it and cares enough to post about it assumes that anyone who doesn’t is a unicorn in denial about his oshi having a bf. I’ve seen a HERschizo a couple of weeks ago pulling some Tweet implying that she broke up, then saying that people can stop deluding themselves because she’s no longer in a relationship.
It’s really just Amegeddon 2.0 by a bunch of clueless morons.
>>12071445
With the games, that could reasonably just be the usual permissions bullshit, so Omega and management are still at fault, but not necessarily for culture war nonsense. Youtube also tends to demonetize history channels, so it might be the platform rather than the staff at fault there, but definitely because of culture war bullshit.

>> No.12074942

>>12066706
At first I was gonna say they’d want to stay away from SS13 to avoid getting cum sent to their mailboxes, but they probably already do. Really there’s no harm to them by inadvertently creating a Holotide

>> No.12075574

>>12027670
nailed it combined with a shitty manager for a retard who roleplays as a woman. they were doomed

>> No.12075706

>>12027749
>They should just take whomever leading their ID
whoever is running ID is fantastic. look at what they're doing with nothing. holoEN has so much potential that is being wasted while the IDs are outperforming and not just that but they're very friendly. not in the "STREAM YOUR TITTIES" or "DONT SAY THAT WORD" but they let the streamers know what are the consequences if you do this and the long term effects. ollie was going wayward there, after the break, she's doing well now and focused. same with moona and depression about leeching pekora. they're great.

>> No.12076195

>>12025289
The true final yab was what Haato and Coco did, combined with the debut of ho****ve EN.

>> No.12077844

>>12076195
t. zhang

>> No.12077912

>>12031931
hooman here, you could see how enthusiastic Mumei was about history (still is, but midterms are killing her so she has to play low-int games) by her enthusiasm about the Peru question, the potato thing and the Odyssey. Hearing her love for natural history slowly dissipate and be replaced by mild depression in the drawing stream made me pretty sad. Fuck Omegay and fuck zhangs

>> No.12078307

>>12077844
Okay, baizuo.

>> No.12078408

>>12049830
When she made emojis spammed in chat fly behing her, in the sc reading screen, for the first time. It was like a month ago.

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>>12076195
Suck it fag

>> No.12078568

>>12078450
Cigarettes are what get sucked. Glad to clear up any confusion.

>> No.12078584

>>12039172
That's the biggest issue. How is the embodiment of space supposed to react to space references? All she can do is say "hey cool, parts of me". There's nowhere to go from there.
If Sana instead was an astronaut, then there's suddenly stuff to play off of, she can pull a story out of her ass about how her ship stalled out near Venus, maybe she can get pissed off anytime she sees asteroids. All sorts of things. Just being "space" doesn't do much.

>> No.12078593

>>12070737
It's thefunniest shit. She was seething as soon as concil debuted, mocking omaga's insistense on ridiculous lore, in the ttrpg stream.
And when someone asked if omega will be in amongus collab to make it 12 people, she was so mad she almost banned the guy.
Also can't forget Ame's "omega deeze nuts" tweet. Girls clearly despise him. Only Ina can stomach thee faggot, because she knew him since forever.

>> No.12078700

>>12078593
got a link to the amogus collab rage?

>> No.12078738

>>12025289
Thanks to Clocksperg we aren’t able to watch streams without being enablers. Take responsibility for your own mental health, don’t ruin my entertainment because you are a fucking disaster. Boxing hurts more than tweets and they don’t cry in the fucking ring.

>> No.12078763

>>12078700
No, I'm phoneposting rn.
It's the stream where she first announced the collab. I'm sure there's a clip of it. If not, just check the vod, the comment she responds to shows up no more than 10 minutes after the announcement.

>> No.12078778

>>12078593
Ina knows him? did she also invite him into holo?

>> No.12078849

>>12078593
i fully agree with kiara here.
omigger adds nothing to hololive and is a waste of resources.

>> No.12079037

>>12078778
OA = AO = Enma, long-standing mod in Ina's chat. And it was ao/enma who called Ina "THE lala player" and "lala baba" or something like that in the mc chat, in one of the first mc streams. So they go way back, at least back to the days when she played ff14.

>> No.12079194

>>12079037
Also, recent push for holos to start playing ff14 is clearly omega/enma's idea.

>> No.12079463

>>12079037
So does that mean omega is the guy with the weird yt channel that followed a bunch of trans stuff?

>> No.12079500

>>12079463
I missed out on that whole thing so I can't say anything about it.

>> No.12079688

>>12079500
Darn. It's also another piece of evidence for EN being /here/ because this place was the place that noticed the channel

>> No.12079913

>>12075706
>ollie was going wayward there,,, she's doing well now
Oh? Last I'd heard ollie was rocking the boat, insinuating "changes" and such. She mature a bit?

>> No.12080123

>>12079913
Still mentioning anitubers sadly.

>> No.12082070

>>12079913
A little bit

>> No.12082923

>>12082070
>>12080123
I don't really care if she mentions them, I mostly care if she brings them into hololive. Anitubers and twitch dwellers tend to mire themselves in drama fucking FAST, then drag other people into the shitswamp. I wouldn't even care if it just risked damaging her, but that crap can effect the other talents too. Hopefully she continues her character redemption arc

>> No.12083041

>>12080123
Ollie's disappointing

>> No.12083610

>>12078700
Not that anon, but here's the timestamp:
https://youtu.be/pU_nCvEq_Y4?t=1459

Imo maybe a bit exaggerated, but I guess her point still stands.

>> No.12083816

>>12071445
OMEGATRANNY HATE

>>12074473
The CSA actually uses the blood stained banner, which was the legal flag of the CSA, rather than the flag of the army of Northern Virginia, which is what they usually call the Confederate flag (incorrectly). Given how paradicks is now I can see them switching to something like the bonnie blue flag (an earlier, lesser known, official flag of the CSA).

>>12074642
I could probably guess which ones have retweeted WHITE PEOPLE HATE shit, ironically of course they probably don't actually hate white people but the ultimate result is that they will force the great Nick Fuentes dictatorship to secure the afrolatinowhite race's future.

>> No.12083989

>>12083816
Your country will fall. China will win. Nick Land is right.

>> No.12084214

>>12083989
The real redpill is Nick Sea

>> No.12084281

>>12083989
They have already failed by being chinese in the first place. Checkmate, shitskin.

>> No.12084463

>>12078593
wtf Kiara is based

>> No.12085046

>>12084463
She has her moments.
She always speaks her mind, what she thinks and what she feels is out in the open. It's a bleassing and a curse.

>> No.12085901

>>12083610
wtf I love orange woman now

>> No.12085978

>>12025346
>>12026706
>>12031931
>>12054355
OMG THAT FUCKING FAGGOT I HATE READING , MUMEI IS CUTE OWL WHY DOES SHE NEED LOOOOOOOOOOORE AAAAGH ?!?! LORE IS STUPID JUST LET ALL BE CUTE SCHOOL GIRL WITH ZERO LORE LIKE JK GUMI NIJISANJI ! ! THEY ARE THE BEST BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO LORE AND THEIR SETTING IS GOOD SCHOOL SO RELATABLE ! ! ALSO FUCK READING

>> No.12086995

>>12064376
Because those people WANT power. Don't you get it? Well adjusted people don't crave power in everything they do. They just want to be left alone. Only the kind of people who WANT power go to those positions, and the kind of people who want power are garbage

>> No.12088783

>>12085978
You should kill yourself, Omegatrannynigger.

>> No.12088877

>>12085978
Fuck you Omega, you're so cringe it's unbearable.

>> No.12089752

>>12079688
Honestly, they would be stupid for not being /here/
Unfiltered criticism of your product by autistic people who will over explain every single point they are trying to make is fucking gold
Basically we are a QA team that does it for free for them.

>> No.12090658

>>12089752
Assuming they can filter the actual criticism out. The majority of what gets posted is absolutely retarded bait.

>> No.12091057

>>12090658
>The majority of what gets posted is absolutely retarded bait.
nope
majority of content here is accurate. I'm not kidding. the only ones who think its bait are pro-censorship simps from redd*t who frequent /hlgg/

>> No.12091771

>>12091057
Ah yes the "i dont watch streams but I also hate everything about _____" is very valid criticism.

>> No.12091927

>>12091771
I get you're sensitive about criticism of your oshi but majority of what gets posted on this site is accurate. no amount of your cope is going to change this and no amount of your cope is going to stop chuubas from lurking here

>> No.12093593

>>12028045
>>12028141
Rosemi should just move in with Pomu, Rosemi doesn't own anything and can just use all of Pomu's stuff, ez

>> No.12095383

>>12089752
Unfiltered yep.
Critisim? Maybe? There are some good points to be found here but there is a lot of shitposting and straight up hate as well.

>> No.12095462

>>12091927
>majority of what gets posted on this site is accurate
holy kek. that's enough /vt/ for me today

>> No.12095515

>>12027826
irys. this really feels like just an aversion to reading on your part rather than anything objective.

>> No.12096158

>>12095383
And the problem is half the time any good criticism is drowned out in a flood of schizo bullshit even within the same post.

>> No.12096290

>>12085978
>Not reading the post
>Accusing others of not reading
Cope, seethe, dilate Omegatranny. Join the 41%

>> No.12096380

>>12088877 (Checked)
Trips and dubs of truth.

>> No.12096437

>>12025412
Japanese are actually dickish smartasses with terrible people skills outside of bullying and shaming who happen to make very cool artworks out of everything. They're also covetous and power-hungry beyond their ability to endure direct conflict unless they push themselves into a bloodthirsty frenzy.

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