/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>>11993544
>That's why numberchads compares the sched/perf to early months of Myth
That's a good idea, here is the data for October 1-25 in 2020
>pic related
With 41 hours streamed ClockGirl would be on par with Ina (43 hours) and Calli (46 hours).

The numbers that impress me the most in this chart are
>Ame, 83 hours in 2020, 47 in 2021
and
>Roboco, 95 hours in 2020, 43 in 2021

oh no holobronys i thought you say the Pekora was the queen??

>>11994268
Nice cut out nijinigger.

>>11994162
On another note: Here is a comparative chart between October 2020 and 2021

In 2020, from 1 to 25, the then existing Holo Girl streamed a collective
>1841 hours
In 2021, only
>1598 hours

Evenm accounting for the absences of Marine, Coco and AZKi (heh ,yeah) those only add up to 56 hours missing.

With that said, adding the remaining girls that weren't there in 2020, the number of hours adds up to 2022, which more than surpasses the 2020 number.
Seems like ID2, Irys and Council really came to allow for the rest of the girls to stream more sparsely and still keep the whole Hololive schedule filled.

I’m guessing either Dec or Jan Hololive will put out another audition for the EN branch iirc.
Should be around the time wave 4 debits and ID3 debuts.

>>11994162
>With 41 hours streamed ClockGirl would be on par with Ina (43 hours) and Calli (46 hours)

Mori was doing shorter streams, people could see her more often and it would not take as much time of your day

>>11994713
We need JP6 first though.

>>11994823
this month, according to my ass

>>11994857
Dear anon's ass, can you tell me when is Myth's new outfits and 3D?

>>11994162
>>11994592
Here is the % variation between their 2020 and 2021 numbers. With the sole exception of Matsuri (and Kiara, because she was still on her debut honeymoon period), all of the ones in the red coincide with the ones with the most visible recent improvement in their numbers.

>>11994823
Yagoo seems content with the number of gens in JP for now.
EN and ID are their main priority for adding members.

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021

1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.5k - Summer craft championship
19) Suisei (Hololive) - 83.5k - Outfit Reveal
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 26.4k - Minecraft
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 63.2k - Survival Island End Stream
22) Pekora (Hololive) - 32.2k - Minecraft
23) Hal (Indie/Merise) - 45k - Merise Announcement
24) Miko (Hololive) - 65k - Sportfes Announcement
25) Miko (Hololive) - 32.7k - Minecraft (Sportfes preparation)

A question for the anons here. If you were Niji management and you decided to be more "involved" with NijiEn streams. What would be some possible ways to ensure that at least 1 of this 3 things happen?
>Selen expanding her core audience, the people who would watch her regardless of whoever else is streaming, to at least 3k by the end of the year.
>Expanding Lazulight and/or the rest of Obsydias core audience to at least 2k
>Raising Ethyria's average viewership to 2k

>>11994884
this week = halloween stuff
1st-7th November = SportFest (with announcement of "something is coming" at the end)
8th-14th Nobember = Outifts (with also one jp)
15th-21th November = build up and JP6 release, so theyll be open for collabs a bit before Christmas
ID 3ds in december
EN 3ds in january

>>11995034
stfu niji intern

>>11995034
pray that the male wave will be successful

>>11994713
Iirc council debuted 6 months after the audition so ID will probably debut in March

>>11995105
I think that even if by some miracle the male wave did end up being successful, this wouldn't affect the girls numbers.

>>11994162
O ye fools of little faith. Some may bash Kronii for not maximizing numbers by playing off stream but she currently has something better than numbers, she has a character arc. Like a typical denizen of Yagoos house of broken girls, Kronii is an autist. In particular, she’s a kuudere who doesn’t want others to share her struggle. This is her flaw that she will overcome in her idol journey. Mark my words, eventually she’ll be grinding a game and she will say something with her low voice along the lines of “Y’know playing with you guys isn’t bad. I thought it was better to just show you what I can do but now, I like being on a journey with you” It’ll be her pekomoona moment and cement her place as a high tier holo.

>>11995034
Do a collab with Hololive.

>>11994268
I'll have solace knowing that her EN kouhai can collab with her without needing to pay a fee like Jewzuha

>>11995034
>Selen expanding her core audience, the people who would watch her regardless of whoever else is streaming, to at least 3k by the end of the year.
>Expanding Lazulight and/or the rest of Obsydias core audience to at least 2k
>Raising Ethyria's average viewership to 2k
Collab with Hololive

>>11995313
>without needing to pay a fee
What is this?

>>11995241
Big-breasted narcissistic tall kuudere that's hardworking and has a nice voice... Komi-san...

King is already ruining his numbers again by playing valo this time.

>>11995283
>>11995328
Okay... Is there anything else that DOESN'T involve collabing with Holo since we all know that isn't happening anytime soon.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>32,621: Miko (Hololive)
>27,907: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>22,230: Pekora (Hololive)
>15,574: Gura (Hololive)
>13,664: Baelz (Hololive)
>13,647: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>13,418: Gatchaman (Indie)
>12,978: Korone (Hololive)
>11,956: IRyS (Hololive)
>11,908: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,666: Suisei (Hololive)
>10,171: Shion (Hololive)

A skinny day at the top but with some surprising ending

>>11995035
are you the top 10ks streams anon? please post it if so

>>11995433
Baelz beat the Sultan? Didn't realize she peaked so high, she really has been putting in the work.

>>11994713
Would be interesting if Niji/Holo auditions overlap this time, but I think Niji will announce their’s in November anyways to keep up the 2-3 month wave cycle.

>>11995283
>Do a collab with Hololive.
>>11995283
>Do a collab with Hololive.
** BLOCKS YOUR COLLAB **
>NOT ON MY WATCH, NIJIFELLOWS!

And, here is the thing
>she's right too

>>11995485
I'm different anon. I govern the victors.

>>11995485
Too slow pops! Too late to erase your shame too

>>11995433
Kuzuha needs to win at least one more time until the end of the month, this thread is becoming too peaceful without Kuzuhafags and Nijifags

>>11995574
COME HERE KING!
>YOU CAN WIN TODAY
Victory is just at hand, just kick it as hard as you can!

>>11995397
Play Minecraft
Sing unarchived English karaoke
Collab with JP senpais who are well known in English community
Make a FOTM cover
More ads
Make a post on r****t

>>11995034
Hi Selen.

>>11994162
>>11994592
Hey anons, where's Nakiri Ayame on this list? Or am i not seeing her?

She actually streamed once in Oct 2021 more than once in 2020 Oct.

>>11995433
Pretty "bad" day, most of these streams overlapped too.

>>11995574
These threads never had nijifags

>>11995707
I cut everybody without hours in Oct 2020 in the 1-25 range and Ayame's return was on the 26th

>>11995514
Occasional collab is fine though.

>>11995034
Honestly, that's easy. Cut down some hours/streams. Do 5 streams a week with 2-3 hrs each and avoid overlapping with others especially during HoloEN events.

>>11995659
>Play Minecraft
They already did. Here are some examples:

Rosemi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnoHHqGz3L8
Selen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWT3RHaR-dQ
Elira: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IssHIhJqEM0

The fact people don't know this says a lot more about the strength of the game in itself (ZERO) than about what they may have done there.
Minecraft strength is NOT the block game, but the interpersonal connections made within.

Quite literally "the friends we made along the way", but unironically

>Kuzuha played his buff game.
>Pekora intentionally nerfed herself.
>still lost.
Holo is too strong.

>>11995514
Based, but also fuck managment.
From a pure, cold, business perspective it's the correct move, as collabing with NijiEN is all risk and no reward for HoloEN. Seriously, what do they actually gain? A slightly better reputation among a group of seething collab beggars? This isn't a charity, they're not obligated to try and boost NijiEN in any way, shape or form.

I do wish a Pomu x Kiara collab would happen just for the potential kino though.

>>11996106
that's why hololive has no soul

>>11995975
Yeah, they're taking the consistent streams meme too easily. It works because they're JP and their main timeslot is at night/evening jst. EN is spread far apart so there's really no primetime for ENs. Gura & Ina already developed viewers in their timeslots. Competing with them and hoping a few would join you if they don't stream on that day is pointless.

>>11995999
Yeah they aren't exactly strong on minecraft. They don't even have their own servers. EN was built upon the tears of Myth themselves and it built up a storyline.

>>11995911
>Occasional collab is fine though.
Sorry mate, only those worthy are allowed to collab with HoloEN

>HoloJP
>VShojo (minus Veibae)
>Pikamee
>Milky Queen
>Holostars
>Trash Taste
>Assorted hobos they find out in the streets

That kind of rules out NijiEN

>>11995999
>interpersonal connections
This needs a lot of time and team effort

>>11996067
Kuzuha playing valorant now to cry at his loss today

>>11996067
Pekora lost to Kuzuha...

>>11996133
If they had no soul, then why do people keep watching them? Checkmate, nijifags.

>>11996106
>a slightly better reputation among a group of seething collab beggars
it would go the opposite way. Collab with one and then all the beggars will start demanding for one too

>>11995999
Yea.
IMO, if NijiJP did a server reset or a "New Server" as a way of resetting things and introducing all of the current biome and world gen updates, it could kickstart something, but I don't believe there's enough desire amongst all of NijiJp to do so. It's rough...I know Hololive has already done that before, as the current Holoserver isn't the same as the first one where Aqua had her Hololive resistance antics vs Sora.
It's hard, I don't envy NijiEn management, not one bit.

>>11996106
>just for the potential kino
What the fuck does that even mean?
I sincerely fail to even start to imagine how having a collab partner from outside the company would improve Kiara's streams, solo or in company collab.

Not even dissing Kiara here, I can understand the value of a cross company collab between people that are already close (like Haachama and Hoshikawa) but Pomu and Kiara would pretty much be like Kiara and Nyanners
1) tick a box "collabed with"
2) never speak about or interact again

There is no upside and all downside

>>11996133
>that's why hololive has no soul
Can you really put that in numbers? What is the weight of a soul?

>>11996217
That's why Hololive's ecosystem for streamers works. They can collab with each other instead of relying on others. YT algo will always help them with new viewers.

>>11995034
ok, here is an actual advice
Play Minecraft mod
Minecraft is a big buff but holo Minecraft is all vanilla, so if NijiEN can play the right mod, they will gain a lot of new fans

>>11996313
Niji JP did. I don't know if Niji EN also play with mods or not.

>>11996216
>people
holobronies have no souls as well

>>11996342
did nothing for them though. Mito was a 6k shitter with 2 of his friends. Fuwa and Ibrahim got 12k.

>>11996247
>I know Hololive has already done that before, as the current Holoserver isn't the same as the first one where Aqua had her Hololive resistance antics vs Sora.
It was not the server reset that brought new life into the server.

It was a deliberate effort by Aqua, in a period all other girls were balls to the wall on Ark and Sora was dipping her toes on the ghost town that the Holo Server had become.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1qLRJUixaM

Here is a comment in that video
>I legit teared to that speech when I watched it live.
>I personally thought that most of their (both hololive and nijisanji) memorable moments of the happened in minecraft, it's a shame that it stopped being popular.

It is not impossible that this little speech and her effort to revive the server was what turned the tide for Hololive and, again, it was a deliberate effort

>>11996342
that's why I used the word "right mod", a texture pack won't do shit.
If they play something like Sky block though, there is no way it won't be successful
MC Mod + roleplaying should be the way to go

>>11996267
Nyanners is a fucking wreck.
Pomu and Kiara have been tweeting and DMing each other a ton since they first talked in June.
They’re also both huge idol fags that were in the wotagei scene in Japan.
Apparently Kiara is Pomu’s EN oshi too.
>>11996216
You know for as much as Nijifags like saying the Holofags will eat up whatever their talents fans put out, doesn’t that just make them more reliable?
As a sponsor/advertiser knowing that a fanbase is more likely to buy the shit we sell cause a talent shills it sounds like a good deal.

>>11996440
It's not the block game, mate. it is unironically a mix of real unplanned collabs and overarching crafted narratives.
See: "Hawaata: the movie".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9ce4WsDCQE&t=10s

With the right improvisational ability the streamers can craft something that not even a scriptwriter could and it is not about the block game.
It is not about the roleplay either, otherwise it would have succeeded on Ark too (but it didn't, at least for Hololive)

>>11996461
>Apparently Kiara is Pomu’s EN oshi too
thats how you know shes full of shit and trying way too hard for that collab to happen

>>11996461
>Pomu and Kiara have been tweeting and DMing each other a ton since they first talked in June.
>They’re also both huge idol fags that were in the wotagei scene in Japan.
>Apparently Kiara is Pomu’s EN oshi too.
There is nothing preventing them from interacting off stream. On stream tho, as I said, I really don't see what people are calling "kino interaction".

>Nyanners is a fucking wreck.
Calli collabbed with Ironmouse and it was cute as fuck. Ticked the "collabed with" check never to interact again.
If there is no real connection - like Haachama and Hoshikawa, Tamaki and half the industry, even Boran Nun and Towa which hit off very well through Apex - there is no upside in allowing a collab just because and it is 100% potential downsides if you are the top dog.

Since Niji EN3 is being accepted here I think that this one is fine too...

Miori Celesta (Tsunderia) got blessed by Susan and her channel is performing very well this month. Her last stream peak at 310 viewers and she got a few red SC

Too bad that she still is too small to be tracked by Playboard

>>11996542
What are you talking about? There are many ways to be successful and I believe playing a good MC mod is one of them.
And when I say Roleplaying, it should be something on the same level as the Dream SMP. Not just some narratives streamers come up with while playing

>>11996704
>There are many ways to be successful and I believe playing a good MC mod is one of them.
>What are you talking about?
I'm disagreeing. VTubing in itself is already "roleplaying", adding one extra layer of roleplay over it won't paper over the initial lack of success if they're failing at doing it with their primary "persona"

>>11996674
I doubt it happens but it would be sweet irony for Rosemi to leave Tsunderia for NijiEn, only for Tsunderia to suddenly incline and beat her (doesn't necessarily have to include the rest of Niji En)

>>11996674
Reimu killer…
I wonder which one of the smaller agencies will start competing with NjiEN.

>>11996704
They aren't allowed to used mods (except for texture)

Why does nijifags keep saying HoloEN should Collab with NijiEN and what not when they also avoid Collabs with the little ones too like Prism, Tsunderia, Phase connect etc?

>>11996764
roleplaying here means you create a basic story together before streaming and loosely follow it while streaming.
Anyway, I'm mainly talking about mods here, roleplaying is just another suggestion

>>11996863
why? they can't ask for permissions from the mod makers?

>>11996769
>>11996777
>>11996674
has NijiEN actually collabed with any of the smaller EN agencies like Tsunderia, Prism, Phase, etc?
and no Vshojo doesnt apply as a "smaller en angency"

do you think Sora's vtuber friends feel envy to see what she and her company has become?

>>11996440
I know permissions for popular mods are an issue but if they just said, “boy we would love to play a mod like mod x” Holofans would make one for them within days. Minecraft modding isn’t terribly difficult

>>11996985
playing mods usually gets you in a bad situation with the main game developers. Doesnt matter for indies, but corpos need their explicit perms to play the game at the first place, so you better go for their official dlcs instead of free mods

>>11996985
No tech company (in this case Mojang) will give a license to modify the source code of a software to a group of youtubers

>>11997169 (me)
I forgot about an exception, AmongUs, they got a license to use the mod from both sides

>>11996769
If omega wants to play some 5d chess
Let council collab with them might be enough push to overtake lower nijien

>>11997169
If they had a red stone and command block god they could replicate 95% of most common mods. Command blocks let’s you do a lot of neat stuff and could be fan content. Aside from oga I don’t see an actual holo managing it

>>11997356
Maybe Luna, she used to be a programmer.
Oga is a game dev so that’s no surprise.

>>11996927
>roleplaying here means you create a basic story together before streaming and loosely follow it while streaming.
Yeah, like being a cute catgirl that enjoys onigiri and hangs out with a dog girl that lives in a bakery

>>11997288
Bae's roommate did a few collabs with Miori and is following her on Twitter. Mori also noticed and liked her cover of Red.

Omega, you can do this... It's easy...

>>11997420
>HTML
Anon...

>>11997567
Regardless creating and debugging a mod like that would be a huge time sink. Sportsfes and festival show it can be a good investment: Minecraft Hololive:Battle Royal, Hunger Games, or even just Death Battle Arena would get good numbers. But there are probably literally hundreds of block autists who would it completely for free for their oshis

>>11997674
Even better: user submission contest with review streams and small reward. Then they are free for all Holos to use

>>11997674
Wasn't the MinecraftJP event something like that? I mean, the "playing something else, but on Minecraft" type of competition mod?

>>11997674
>here are probably literally hundreds of block autists who would it completely for free
you still fail to understand what makes Holo minecraft special

>>11997674
The problem isn't get authorization from the mod developer, that is very easy. They need a license from the game developer, Mojang, in order to legally modify the source code and that will never happen

>>11997474
NijiEN girls don't take the whole character thing seriously. Their characters are like the characters that Doc or Xqc play.
And they have no story to follow anyway

actual Nijifans are not this delusional, right?

>>11996924
>>11997009
Literally one this week. They have also collabed with a ton of indies and other corpos like Wactor and Re:Act. Pomu and especially Millie have also promoted the other EN corpos a ton on stream.

>>11997886
They had the whole rival thing that management set up for them (wave 1/2) and they kinda just ditched it the moment they debut from what I recall.

>>11997776
I gave up explaining that
>IT’S NOT THE FUCKING BLOCK GAME

>>11994823
Why would Yagoo pump out another gen if there isn't a demand for it? JP feels like they have the correct amount of people in it already. Maybe one more gen for EN to further improve their dynamics. I'm pretty sure Cover doesn't want to oversaturate their own market like Niji.

>>11996777
Shouldn't be long before we get a day where Shiki from Prism passes at least 1 NijiEN in CCV. Luto already passes most EN in Superchats.
Nene from Kawaii's been growing steadily too.
Admittedly, other than the Miori' September short i haven't seen anything from Tsunderia, but her VOD views are really good for this level.

>>11998003
theres some demand for nightowls though, since EN doesnt EU prime very often. Or just pick some niches like they did with fauna. They dont need to be an all-stars

>>11998005
you might be right, Shiki is already at 3 digits for avg ccv

>>11995433
Wow, Miko really swung in at the last minute and stole the day from Kuzuha again, lol. Fear it, run from it.........Migo arrives all the same.

>>11998176
Shiki pulls 350+ viewers for special streams already, dropped a bit lately but should do good numbers for the Halloween special.

>>11998248
When peko can't do it, migo will come to save the day

>>11998248
An anon pointed it out in the last thread.
Miko was just behind Kuzuha's peak when Gura Shion ginished streaming and some people went to her collab with Polka.

On the other hand, for Kuzuha, it doesn't matter who else in Nijisanji is streaming, his numbers aren't affected. There's no one else to give him a boost and prop him up to 1st place. He gets way more from tourists, from outside collabs and events.

King has no one to back him up in his company... except Kanae, but not by much.

>>11998119
Then sure, one more EN gen that's focused on Europe to fill that niche. But I can't see Yagoo releasing JP6 until there's a demand for it as much as I want Lamy to be a proper JP senpai.

>>11997988
Mods or custom maps are just new ways to have collabs in Minecraft, which are obvious ways to get good numbers while being a change of pace. Do you think that if they did Hunger Games it wouldn’t get novelty numbers and lots of clips?

>>11998248
>>11998370
that was migo's second score. Now get peko that #1 on sportfes day and pekomiko christmas collab is granted to happen.

>>11998443
If they want to expand to ES which I think it would be stupid not to the time to lay the ground work is with a Bilingual talent in one of the next gens.

Checking Tenma’s twitch
10/20 847 viewer average
10/22 472 viewer average
10/24 305 viewer average
https://twitchtracker.com/tenmamaemi/streams

>>11996674
That is quite an incline and she deserves it. The funny thing is that some of that is probably from people finding out about Bae's past vtuber life and making the connection. Take that added exposure with the hard work she has been doing pumping out tons of songs and you have an incline.

>>11998487
I imagine number 1 on sportsfes day would go to Miko herself since she will probably be doing the broadcast stream with Mio again.

>>11998518
Bilingual talents always end up wanting to stream in EN anyway for those sweet sweet dólares estadounidenses.

>>11998518
Spanish, French, British, German(maybe Eastern Europe since Kiara already speaks German), and Nordic should cover the entirety of European demographics.

>>11998660
well then christmas collab is canceled

>>11998679
Oh no doubt. It’s not like Korone streams in English much. She just needs to throw them a bone and have some dedicated streams once a month. Botan is the RU vtuber because of a three stripes and FPS. The bilingual pioneer wouldn’t get a huge ES fanbases, but it would prime the pump for the ES branch.

>>11998583
Twitch gets way higher numbers for EN chuubas already, even outside of Vshoujo.
There are several indies there (many artists) already doing similar, or better than NijiEN. I think anon was talking about YT startups.
https://twitchtracker.com/anny
https://twitchtracker.com/girl_dm_
https://twitchtracker.com/yoclesh
https://twitchtracker.com/trickywi
https://twitchtracker.com/dyarikku

>>11998896
how many of those are real vtubers and not converts though?

>>11998465
>Do you think that if they did Hunger Games it wouldn’t get novelty numbers and lots of clips?
It would, a lot like Hardcore Minecraft, and for about the same span of time.
Then it’s back to square one.

Here is something funny that many forgot (or where not around for it):
>It wasn’t always Minecraft
For a period of time the more or less sane type of interaction the girls have now on Minecraft used to happen on
>Animal Crossing
More than that: by virtue of the centralized servers of the game it even allowed for cross company collabs (like the one below) and fan participation
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Pa5OmvCQ5Sg

It’s NOT the block game.

>>11997954
Wow, another nepotism collab. If I'm not mistaken, one of them belongs to Domo's groupie, right?

>>11998896
Even NijiEN gets way higher viewership on twitch everytime they have gone there. YT CCV is highly depressed.

>>11999107
all those listed.
At least the current Twitch users were created for the vtuber and pretty much all of them only got an audience after their debut.

>>11999403
None of those are a part of Domo's group, Shoto is Hanamori, Boa is in the Vshojo outer circle, and Shiki is Prism. Finana has already collabed with the first two before anyways, Shiki is the point of interest.

>>11996163
I really really want a HoloEN x NijiJP collab just for the salt. It'd be so damn funny if only NijiEN was in the cuckshed.

>>12000021
That would just prove how afraid HoloEN management is of NijiEN tho

>>12000137
>That would just prove how afraid HoloEN management is of NijiEN tho
Imagine believing this

NijiEN doesn't want to lose Genshin and Honkai permissions please understand.

Is the TTRPG on Gura's channels? In theory should be decent numbers but collabs are weird on her channel. A large chunk of her fanbase just doesn't seem into them

>>12000310
It's not going to get huge numbers now regardless of the channel, the hype for the ttrpg collabs is long gone and you need to follow the story of all previous episodes to know what's going on, that alone will filter a lot of people.

>>12000310
regardless of the channel it wont get much more than 10k live, it is way too many episodes in

>>12000439
Eh if it pulls 10-15k for part 6 of a Hunter: the Vigil stream it would be infinitely more popular than any other similar stream. I mean that literally, I literally can not find any other Hunter: the Vigils streams anywhere. Most WoD streams on Twitch are like 100-200 ccv tops

15 Million Views for Can You Do the Hololive? (Beyond The Stage Version)

Very good number

>>12000137
Afraid of a yab maybe.

>>12000439
So, kinda perfect for Gura holding the possible final episode (? is it the finals)

>>12000293
In all seriousness, why are people so sure that it was HoloEN management / Omegatranny who turned the collab down, and not this >>12000293? NijiJP have their foot on solid ground so they might not give a damn if they lose Chink games' permissions or if Chinks start harassing them, but NijiEN, as new as they are, might not want to take that much risk in exchange for a Pomu / Kiara collab.
I just find it rather weird to believe that HoloEN management, who greenlight'd collabs with males and with VShojo (who is way bigger than NijiEN, mind you), would have any particular issue with a NijiEN x Holo collab (well, maybe after Nina's case, but still...)

>>12000593
No but Mori implied it was sort of the midseason climax, and that they might make roster changes afterwards. Sort of like a split cour season.

>>12000488
Well sure i don't doubt it's going to be a very popular stream for the category, but for a Gura collab (if it's even on her channel) i don't think it will get great numbers.
>>12000593
I think there are at least 2 more episodes. It would make sense if they did the next one on Gura's channel and the last one on Mori's.

>>12000599
Eh? Niji talents collab with HoloJP, hell they appeared on stage in concert with them within the week! If the Chinks were going to get mad about collabs EN isn't going to be the tipping point.

>>12000000

>>12000599
HoloEN management has a track record for rejecting outside collabs.>>12000599

>>12000599
Because HoloEN management has a history of heavily regulating collabs, while NijiEN management does not.
And it's not because of chink permissions. NijiJP still heavily plays Genshin, and they still have collabs with HoloJP and even HoloID with no issue. Meanwhile, only one NijiEN (Finana) really plays Genshin, and it's only once a week.

>>12000664
I said it in my post, though. NijiJP might be strong enough to ignore the Chinks, but NijiEN sure isn't
>>12000706
You probably misquoted since you quoted me twice - which harmless collab have they rejected, though? Among their rejected collabs, I can only recall Coco's and Melody's, both with understandable / justifiable reasons.

>>12000599
I'm willing to take it further... mostly because I'm out of the loop, since all i saw was that Kiara stream.
Are we sure it was a Kiara-Pomu collab that was rejected? Did they say on Twitter? could it have been Veybey instead or something stupid like a Kson request

I'm enjoying Selene's members stream but here's some numbers too just to link it to the thread.
350 current live viewers visible
265 likes, 30 minutes in.
Estimative way higher member count for this month but even at base, good enough member count to replace your day job in most cities, if they didn't split with Nijisanji. The EN girls are doing ok on that front too.

>>12001434
>The EN girls
You surely mean Selen

>>12001434
350 members @ ~$5/member is $1650/month, or around 20K/year before cuts. Living in a 1st world city for that much is possible, but that's most definitely a poorfag existence. Cities are expensive.

>>12001606
Selen, Pomu, and (at least this month) Elira.

>>12001609
Gotta remove 30% because YouTube cut and whatever Nijisanji pockets.

>>12001700
Yeah, that seems about right

Elira
> 28 emotes / at least 800 members
Selen
> 23 / 400 members
Pomu
> 23 / 400 members
Rosemi
> 18 / 200 members
Finana
> 18 / 200 members
Petra
> 15 / 125 members

So what is the combination power ranking of NijiEN right now? (sub, views, ccv, sc..)

>>12001609
350 being the minimum of course,
there's no way all 100% of members would ever be in a stream at the same time.
More reasonably 500 minimum, probably way more since we've seen less than 30% member stream participation in past analysis of HoloEN compared to poll participation.

>>12001938
In relation to what?
Have we ever done this for other groups before as an example?

>>12001913
So Finana with a debut buff but without say a I have to have surgery pity buff, has made around $5000 in memberships and $46,000 in SC. So around $10K a month. Assuming a 35% take home that's about equal to an annual income of $34,000. That's like McDonald's assistant manager level income, with more Waves coming to possibly eat away at her fanbase. Obviously Pomu, Elira are in better shape but that's rough man. With an uncertain future it makes sense why they haven't all quit their jobs yet.

>>12002134
There's still ad revenue, but that won't be a big chunk, they're not Noel with 10 1 million+ views 2 hour streams.
The biggest income will probably be, as per usual, the voice packs.
Cheap to make and booth only takes 4%

>>12002397
Doesn't Nijisanji take a pretty big chunk from voice packs and talents mostly rely on the Cheer option (that isn't available to EN)?

Just for a change of pace from these depressing NijiEn numbers, found this Korean language clip channel that has multiple 500K+ clips including Gura's Galaxy which is at 650K without even having an English title. This is the sort of thing Holo/Niji needs before they debut a foreign branch.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2fvhDgem6GHbeUgSog-LZg/featured

>>12002134
why the fuck do they have so few members and so many scs in relation to it? They should be pushing for the opposite since being a member gets you more attached than just superchatting

>>12002529
Exact number is unknown, estimated it's still 50-50.
We don't even know how their monthly salary is calculated, if they were smart, the sales would be considered a transaction and only pay the 10% in income tax instead of adding it to their salary and paying ~30% in taxes.

>>12000522
bitch even followed Sykkuno, she's too easy. while Gura ghosted him on sns

>>12001913
A couple of days after Selen opened memberships, she tweeted out how many emote slots she had to fill, equated to 2k members iirc.
Elira, I think people are estimating 2k.
Pomu had 1.6k members during the first hour or so of her membership opening stream, with many more joining after.
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they were 2.5k-3k now.

The others are probably around 1k-1.5k.

>>12001938
It's between Elira, Selen, and Pomu
Elira has the most subs, good views, and good CCV, but normally doesn't get the highest SC (this month was an exception due to both her birthday and hitting 200k).
Selen has the best CCV, best views, and good superchat, but doesn't have the highest subs (yet).
Pomu gets great SC month after month, and her CCV is decent, despite her having the lowest subs and views of the three.

The others (including Wave 3) aren't worth discussing (even Finana, who has more subs than Selen and Pomu, is below average in every other metric). There's a powergap between Elira/Selen/Pomu and the rest of NijiEN.

>>12002705
because sc numbers are public while memberships are not (remember they even take down sites who try to numberfag their memberships). Gotta have something to show to the board of directors, and hide under the rug everything else

I don't know about "combination power ranking" but here is the median of peaks for Nijisanji EN
>pic related

It is sorted by their current month medians so it clearly shows
>MIllie as the breakout star of Wave 3
>Petra inclining
>The rest of Wave 3 at or below 1k
>Selen dominating the whole branch

>>12002859
>Pomu had 1.6k members during the first hour or so of her membership opening stream
Careful reading too much into this. 90% of Patreon supporters drop off after 3 months. Can't say for certain if memberships are the same but all these creator support memberships have similar retention fractions. You need to constantly have new members just to keep up with the churn

>>12002794
>Bloop facemask
He really likes Gura

>>12002979
Of all the ecelebs I get the feeling he genuinely enjoys her content and is a fan. I mean she's charming as hell it's really not that surprising.

>>12001913
Do you have the source for emotes/ members ?

>>12002978
I think I saw someone did a chart for membership estimation count and it fluctuates month by month.

>>12002975
Now, for the "mean average" of peaks, given that there is no "debut" stream this month, three of the girls rank lower than the Wave 3 ones, with Petra consistent low (but not too low) streams taking last place.

This situation will clearly change come November with Wave 3 likely reaching the four last places, maybe 3 with Millie escaping it

>>12003149
Check how many emotes are on their membership joining page, then compare that number to https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7544492?hl=en#zippy=%2Cupload-custom-emoji%2Cnumber-of-custom-emoji-you-can-upload
This is the bare-minimum members that they have.

>>12002975
>>12003215
These two charts show how high Selen towers over her mates.
Nijisanji could easily make a cross branch "Nijisanji World Gamers", promote Bora Nun and Selen to this "main" branch and relegate the rest of EN and KR to IN "adopted token third worlder" status

>>12002975
>>12003215
Also these show that there is
>Selen, Elira, Pomu and Millie
and then there is the rest.

>>12002705
Those are minimum estimates, remember that Pomu got over 1600 members just in her membership opening stream.

>>12003215
Someone needs to add Kuzeha, Pekora, and Gura to this so we can understand the overall scale. And for laffs

It's been 2 months and Roberu still has more subs than a Holo EN member.

How do we stop him?

>>12003402
>Someone needs to add Kuzeha, Pekora, and Gura to this so we can understand the overall scale. And for laffs
Nah, that's unnecessary flexing and would convey no information.

I'll soon be updating this chart
>pic related
to add NijiEN and Holostars soon tho.

And then splitting it in
>NijiJP, HoloJP, HoloEN
and
>NijiEN, HoloID, Holostars

because these are the leagues being played right now

>>11994268
But Kuzuha can't be a queen unless you're telling me he's a girl.

>>12003282
She made herself a corner of the market that no other EN vtuber was covering and even expanded it.

On the other hand, this shows how little of the market share was left for the new 4. I'd more be willing to consider this a debut debuff for.

>Nijisanji could easily make a cross branch "Nijisanji World Gamers"
Eh, they can make their own "Purple woman gamers" unit. Or with Hada, etc. They just need a snappy name and some promotion so people can latch on to a storyline.

>>12003569
As of Now

1. HoloJP
2. HoloMyth
3. HoloCouncil
4. IRyS
5. Nijisanji Males
6. Nijisanji Women
7. HoloID

The fact that Nijisanji Women are scrapping it up with HoloID and have even lost to them as recently as August 2021 shows how fast Nijisanji fans are rejecting female streamers. Its becoming quite the sausage fest over at AnyColor.

>>12001913
Not necessarily for example
Pekora
>27 / 700 members
Botan
>54 / talk to the company

>>12003569
It never fails to baffle me how Holo ID were actually ahead of the female branch of Nijisanji on a non-debut month. If that doesn't tell you that something's wrong than nothing will.

King just barely dodged graduation

>>11996564
Just like how Kiara is Nyanner's favorite HoloEN but doesn't know she says "Auf Weidersehen" to close her streams rumao rumao

>>12003857
>at least

is Ui the most successful holo parent? without Subaru, she wouldn't have entered the vtubing scene or inclined the same amount.

>>12003850
I don't think it's fair to solo Irys like that. You might as well solo Azki. I get it but still. It's amazing that she's so high up there considering she is her own whole damn unit. I guess all those MCs and Karaokes keeps her numbers slightly above the fray

>>12004419
As a streamer yes and I don't think it's particularly close. Ayamy, Nabi have done well but they are nowhere near her level. As an artist I'd say many mamas and papas are considered quite a bit more successful professionally.

>>11996163
i must have missed it, what's this obsession with omega these days, with even art?

>>12004419
I think I will include Tamaki if she counts.

>>12004549
>As an artist I'd say many mamas and papas are considered quite a bit more successful professionally.
how popular was Ui before Cover contracted her to draw Subaru anyways?
>>12004606
not a holo parent but Tamaki is definitely very successful in her own right

>>11996674
it would be hilarious if tsunderia inclined to where they could compete, or even surpass rosemi's viewer regular numbers all due to Bae's past bringing attention to smaller corpos.

>>12004512
>I don't think it's fair to solo Irys like that
Once upon a time she was compared to whole nijiEN branch, so it's fair to have her as solo

>>12004419
Her most viewed clip is actually with Kenmochi.

You can't just say Subaru when her entourage is stacked with powerhouses.

>>11996674
geez, hololive so dominates the EN viewer space that even related smaller corpos get boosts if a former talent makes it into Hololive. Crazy trickle down effect.

>>11998003
I think JP could get away with another half gen like gamers for JP6.

As for EN, 1 more full gen would be perfect to pad things out as things stand.

>>12005359
maybe like a 3 people gen that fills the void that Coco and Aloe left behind.

* HERE IT COMES *
The much awaited all unified chart, based on the Nip ChartBro "mean average of peaks" chart.

This one contains
>HoloJP
>HoloEN
>HoloID
>HoloStars
>NijiJP
>NijiEN
There is no point in adding NijiKR and NijiID, just assume it would be barely visible below the stars.

Notica that this is preliminary data for the month of October and I will replace NijiJP and HoloJP data with whatever result nipChartBro (God bless his nip soul) gets from his calculation.
I try to use the same methodology but I don't know where he is sourcing the data so there may be a very small difference (which is uniform across the companies so none benefit anyway).

Anyway, there is no surprise here, maybe except for two
1) HoloID greatly outranks NijiEN
2) HoloID and NijiJP seems to be converging

Other conclusions from this:
1) NijiEN average of peaks in October was greatly inflated by the debuts and will likely fall in November, assuming they won't debut another wave
2) NijiJP recline from August to October mirrors 2020, with an incline expected in November (if things go like 2020)
3) HoloEN, with the addition of Irys and the Council, is converging to 10k
4) HoloJP, without the Coco buff and with some of their hitters in the dry dock, is still staying ahead of 12k

There is still a full week in October tho, things can change with enough outliers.
>COMMENTS?

If there is anything you want added just drop a reply and I'll take a look when it is convenient

>>12005359
HoloLive TW will eventually come out
And when it does I think HololiveEN is going to lose a pretty decent amount of viewers the same way Korone did with HoloEN.

>>12005080
>Her most viewed clip is actually with Kenmochi.
The most viewed video on her channel is the song she mage with Subaru and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbYReCtSBbk
and the most CCV she got on record is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEz15wKW6Bg
the "matching outfit" reveal stream she made and collabed with Subaru to a 46k audience

It is preposterous to even imply the bulk of her audience doesnt come from either Subaru or even Maimoto.
I don't know what clip you mean but I can assume he-Ayame is responsible for whatever big number it got

>>12005670
>the early December algorithm change
it's not fair bros, give back our numbers Susan!!!!

>>12005670
HoloEN might get a boost on that Holloween Collab they'll do on the weekends.
I also want to see Pekora and Kuzuha only just to see how much the others are dragging them down.

>>12005899
>I don't know what clip you mean but I can assume he-Ayame is responsible for whatever big number it got
it's probably the one where Ui lost to him in a tetri match and he forced Ui to be a loli

>>12005670
Jesus, Holostars is basically a straight line with little fluctuation. Indicates a small, but very loyal, fanbase.

>>12005670
Ouch, NijiEN actually went (slightly) down in a debut month.
That NijiJP trend is pretty worrying too. Seems like they really heavily rely on tournaments to boost their average.

>>12002859
Do the Niji girls have any member only polls that can be used to estimate their members? Using Kronii as an example, she had 8.3k votes on a member poll last week and people are estimating 10k+ members for her.

>>12006184
The Nijisanji one is a bit misleading. Nijisanji has dozens of 2 view shitters that have trouble hitting 3 digits. Those members are ultimately meaningless when you are talking about the overall health of the organization. The bottom tier of Hololive, on the other hand, is still easily capable of hitting 10k given the right circumstances (Roboco, Mel, etc.).

>>12003850
>5. Nijisanji Males
>6. Nijisanji Women
This only applies to their JP branch

>>12006296
you'll only ever see those two even approaching 10k when playing minecraft

>>12005670
It's still crazy to me how quickly HoloEN "declined" after the honeymoon phase was over to most people. I mean they haven't really declined since there's still tons of viewers and support, but still.
Also depressing how Holostars just can't seem to really catch on.

>>12003850
I love how "nijisanji women" ignores Mito, Ange, Lize, and many other female that go above 10k or almost at it.
>>12003891
There's no such thing as "female branch" in nijisanji. Male and female are literally in the same agency, to the point where some of them are genmates. Stop being a retard.

>>12006455
Yeah, that is why I said given the right circumstances. They can do it however. You will never see Hajime, Ichigo, or Emma August hit those numbers aside from once in a lifetime super special events like a 3D debut.

>>12006455
Not exactly just MC. Milestones, 3D events, birthdays, collabs with only 1 POV and outfit reveals gets a push lead. Mel for one gets the occasional bump because of the collabs she organizes on her channel. Roboco has her UNO. Choco and Luna gets carried by Subaru and Botan. Although Luna is getting more traction because of her EU friendly streams. Only Aki is the real person that gets the buff through MC because she doesn't have anything going on her channel besides that outfit reveal she did. It's a good thing that many top holos do collab with their low tier

>>12005670
Hey Chartbro. Is there anyway you can do the top 31 NijiJP chuubas and put them against HoloJP? I'm interested to see how the top 31 Nijis would perform against HoloJP's 31 chuubas if you cut off the rest of the dead weight.

>>12006638
Cope harder. Mito is reclining fast and fell below 10k for the month. Nijisanji fans are rejecting female streamers and only want to watch the males. Manjisanji! All the Nijisanji females should stage a walk out of the company and apply to Hololive where girls are appreciated.

>>12006802
That would be bad because Holos also have low performers. You will need to cut them off as well. It's more fair to just use the top 20 for each group. You can do the same for NijiEN and HoloEN. Just use their Top5 instead

>>12006910
On the other hand the low performers in HoloJP would very much fit into the mid-tier of Nijisanji and some of them might even fit into the top 31 of Nijisanji (like Luna for example).

>>11995034
>Expanding Lazulight and/or the rest of Obsydias core audience to at least 2k
3D and new outfits ASAP
>Raising Ethyria's average viewership to 2k
Allow them to speak their native tongue. They shouldnt have to ask permission for it. How in the fuck management doesn't allow he Russian and Hispanic to do occasional streams in the native tongue, especially when recruitment hired them because of those features, are beyond me. Management and recruitment need to be on the same page

>>12006984
Well if they want to speak Russion or Spanish maybe they shouldn't have applied for Nijisanji ENGLISH. That is an incredibly stupid idea on your part.

>>12006759
Hell just look at Mel's 3D birthday stream coming up.
Marine and Pekora being two heavy hitters as guests on her stream.

>>12006960
I'm referring to people like Matsuri, Roboco and Choco that gets 2k consistently

>>12005670
October isn't over yet

>>12006910
besides marine and pekora, the top 5 probably varies too much. But youll run into the same problem with the tail end of top 20

>>12006882
>apply to Hololive
Please no, my hands are full already

>>12006984
>>12007034
Nina effed that opportunity. She's a fucking sperg. NijiStaff watches their streams constantly in fear they say something really really stupid

>>12006882
Ah ok, so you are a retard. Good to see that I shouldn't lose my time with a dumbass.

>>12007074
It won't be as bad since their top20 would mainly be midtier at this point. I don't know about NijiJP though because the dip between Top-Mid-Low for them is immense.

>>12007060
2k is still pretty damn good though. That would be equal to a mid-tier Niji I think.

>>12006455
>you'll only ever see those two even approaching 10k when playing minecraft
That's why tourists should STFU and lurk for a couple of years before running their mouths.
You didn't even look at the numbers, if you had
>pic related
you would see the magnitude of the retardation you just spouted

>>12007260
I guess? You also have to remove Ayame and Touya if you want it to be really fair. I'm just saying there should be set rules so that the numbers would actually reflect the reality and not just some cope that tribalist would use

>>12007289
Roboco, who Hololive threads poke fun at for her low views, would be a powerhouse in Nijisanji, lol. The absolute state of AnyColor.

>>12007289
based botfister

Whys are all the front runners in the indie scene inclining while Corpos like Hololive and NijiEN reclining?
Is the English audience maturing to the point where they don't need companies to curate talent?
Or is Hololive's walled garden and similarly NijiEN causing people to grow bored?

Also let me know if I'm missing any of the bigger indies. I'll add them to the list.

>>12007356
I say keep them both since they should more or less cancel each other out.

>>12005670
jesus that holoEN decline. Why no vshojo, holofag? Afraid of them doing better?

>>12007562
Old list, Added some more indies

>>12007562
anonchama, two of those are actually reclining

>>12007034
>Well if they want to speak Russion or Spanish maybe they shouldn't have applied for Nijisanji ENGLISH.
They didn't hire themselves. Someone in recruitment though it was a good idea.
Management are doing one thing are blocking native language streams. Do they even do that for ID?
As for recruitment, one of he thing's they ask for on their applications are, "What languages do you speak?" They don't simply leave it at English and Japanese proficiency
Then you have the their Twitter team, they have NijiEN under NijiWorld. While it is true, why not just make a separate Nijisanji English account.

The staff are not on the same page.

>>12007562
??? These numbers are pretty much low tier holo on a regular day. This is what you think is an incline? Hundreds? For reference, a low tier holo will be considered to be in an incline if they maintain 30% above average CCV consistently. You just think this looks like an incline because their number are so low to begin with. Go back once they are hitting 5k every stream.

>>12007562
>>12007667
When you are 2view shitters like these indies even a 100 viewer incline seems HUGE. Try again Nijikek.

>12007644
oh it is the vshojoschizo again

>>12007644
Twitch numbers so raids are a thing. Also, despite VShoujos incline they're still a distant 2nd against HoloEN as awhole. Then again, they've pretty much cemented themselves as THE clearcut 2nd so they don't really have any competition coming from the bottom either. I still say that their ceiling is hardcapped somewhat just based on the type of content that they do.

>>12007562
I dunno anon, have you missed the conversation going on for the last 9-12 months about how EN vtubers are building a main fanbase on Twitch and that even NijiEN and KR do better numbers there than on Youtube?
Of they're inclining, the YT streaming EN vtuber sphere is almost entirely built around HololiveEN and chuubas associated, or trying to be like them.

>>12007562
Why is it when I select a population for the ones with growth and ignore the massive pile of failures do I see growth? I dunno, I’m mathematically illiterate too

>using select few of indie to create some coping narrative while shitting on holos
2view can't handle big number

https://youtu.be/oQOhLtp7c4k
even if Kronii doesn't stream, interactions like these will help the rest of the EN girls grow. she has mastered the art of helping your gen mates out. on a semirelated note, IRyS feels like she's closer to council than myth.

>>12007865
The point wasn't to compare numbers from different platforms but rather youtube to youtube and Twitch to twitch.

>>12007962
I literally picked the most popular indies and several of them like Juniper aren't even inclining.

>>11996438
Dammit, this box pushing black magic fuckery needs to stop.

How many miracles can Hololive really get? Imagine if Aqua never made that speech. Hololive would lose so many kino moments that came after the Minecraft revival.

>>12006802
>Is there anyway you can do the top 31 NijiJP chuubas and put them against HoloJP?
Only for August 2021 forward.

I'll do one better and just rank them by median peak for October 2021
Format
>median_peak :: num_streams :: vtuberid (gen, company)

Ranking, sorted by median peak CCV for the month of October 2021 (so far)
>28915 :: 27 :: pekora (jp3, hololive)
>26675 :: 28 :: Kuzuha (jp, nijisanji)
>22336 :: 16 :: gura (en1, hololive)
>18779 :: 23 :: miko (jp0, hololive)
>17496 :: 20 :: subaru (jp2, hololive)
>14836 :: 13 :: rushia (jp3, hololive)
>13829 :: 13 :: ouro (en2, hololive)
>12981 :: 13 :: korone (jpgamers, hololive)
>12756 :: 22 :: kanata (jp4, hololive)
>12383 :: 19 :: botan (jp5, hololive)
-- TOP 10
>11850 :: 13 :: mio (jpgamers, hololive)
>11304 :: 34 :: Kanae (jp, nijisanji)
>11169 :: 27 :: fubuki (jp1, hololive)
>10615 :: 12 :: リゼ・ヘルエスタ -Lize Helesta- (jp, nijisanji)
>9895 :: 17 :: nene (jp5, hololive)
>9724 :: 12 :: mumei (en2, hololive)
>9615 :: 11 :: 月ノ美兎 (jp, nijisanji)
>9404 :: 15 :: inanis (en1, hololive)
>9366 :: 23 :: 不破 湊 / Fuwa Minato (jp, nijisanji)
>9238 :: 17 :: irys (ensingers, hololive)
>9203 :: 21 :: flare (jp3, hololive)
>8874 :: 20 :: lamy (jp5, hololive)
>8671 :: 10 :: noel (jp3, hololive)
>8375 :: 17 :: ceres (en2, hololive)
>8323 :: 20 :: calliope (en1, hololive)
-- TOP 25
>8138 :: 15 :: okayu (jpgamers, hololive)
>8058 :: 14 :: amelia (en1, hololive)
>8013 :: 20 :: 社築 (jp, nijisanji)
>7858 :: 22 :: polka (jp5, hololive)
>7718 :: 18 :: 加賀美 ハヤト/Hayato Kagami (jp, nijisanji)
>7614 :: 26 :: イブラヒム (jp, nijisanji)
>6959 :: 18 :: hakos (en2, hololive)
>6605 :: 22 :: watame (jp4, hololive)
>6206 :: 21 :: kiara (en1, hololive)
>5851 :: 23 :: 勇気ちひろ (jp, nijisanji)
>5783 :: 32 :: himemoriluna (jp4, hololive)
>5688 :: 21 :: ニュイ・ソシエール //[Nui Sociere] (jp, nijisanji)
>5560 :: 17 :: フレン・E・ルスタリオ (jp, nijisanji)
>5495 :: 31 :: towa (jp4, hololive)
>5405 :: 20 :: アルス・アルマル -ars almal- (jp, nijisanji)
>5275 :: 12 :: 笹木咲 / Sasaki Saku (jp, nijisanji)
>4656 :: 12 :: 三枝明那 / Saegusa Akina (jp, nijisanji)
>4602 :: 13 :: 樋口楓 (jp, nijisanji)
>4371 :: 25 :: 夜見れな/yorumi rena (jp, nijisanji)
>4288 :: 29 :: レオス・ヴィンセント / Leos.Vincent (jp, nijisanji)
>4217 :: 11 :: aki (jp1, hololive)
>4181 :: 19 :: ローレン・イロアス / Lauren Iroas (jp, nijisanji)
>4063 :: 14 :: sora (jp0, hololive)
>3986 :: 14 :: 黛 灰 / Kai Mayuzumi (jp, nijisanji)
>3859 :: 17 :: matsuri (jp1, hololive)
-- TOP 50

(1/2)

>>12008437
>3819 :: 12 :: 椎名唯華 / Shiina Yuika (jp, nijisanji)
>3767 :: 22 :: 本間ひまわり - Himawari Honma - (jp, nijisanji)
>3755 :: 17 :: moona (id1, hololive)
>3536 :: 13 :: 舞元啓介 (jp, nijisanji)
>3492 :: 15 :: 奈羅花 - Naraka - (jp, nijisanji)
>3423 :: 13 :: 星川サラ / Sara Hoshikawa (jp, nijisanji)
>3295 :: 21 :: アクシア・クローネ / Axia Krone (jp, nijisanji)
>3194 :: 13 :: 伏見ガク (jp, nijisanji)
>3140 :: 17 :: 葉加瀬 冬雪 / Hakase Fuyuki (jp, nijisanji)
>3050 :: 11 :: ましろ / Mashiro (jp, nijisanji)
>2934 :: 25 :: roboco (jp0, hololive)
>2864 :: 15 :: エクス・アルビオ -Ex Albio- (jp, nijisanji)
>2763 :: 23 :: Selen Tatsuki (en, nijisanji)
>2698 :: 22 :: 天宮 こころ / Amamya Ch. (jp, nijisanji)
>2683 :: 19 :: ollie (id2, hololive)
>2563 :: 18 :: 눈보라 / Bora Nun (kr, nijisanji)
>2532 :: 18 :: 鷹宮リオン / Rion Takamiya (jp, nijisanji)
>2411 :: 11 :: 鈴鹿詩子 Utako Suzuka (jp, nijisanji)
>2369 :: 45 :: 甲斐田 晴 / Kaida Haru (jp, nijisanji)
>2324 :: 11 :: でびでび・でびる (jp, nijisanji)
>2263 :: 14 :: 魔使マオ -matsukai mao- (jp, nijisanji)
>2215 :: 10 :: ドーラ (jp, nijisanji)
>2162 :: 14 :: ルイス・キャミー (jp, nijisanji)
>1896 :: 18 :: 周央 サンゴ / Suo Sango (jp, nijisanji)
>1883 :: 34 :: える / Elu (jp, nijisanji)
>1858 :: 13 :: 葉山舞鈴 / Hayama Marin (jp, nijisanji)
>1855 :: 19 :: オリバー・エバンス / Oliver Evans (jp, nijisanji)
>1795 :: 19 :: Elira Pendora (en, nijisanji)
>1773 :: 15 :: ベルモンド・バンデラス (jp, nijisanji)
>1741 :: 11 :: 夢追翔のJUKE BOX (jp, nijisanji)
>1738 :: 13 :: astel (stars2, hololive)
>1710 :: 22 :: Pomu Rainpuff (en, nijisanji)
>1596 :: 14 :: 魔界ノりりむ (jp, nijisanji)
>1481 :: 15 :: 【3年0組】郡道美玲の教室 (jp, nijisanji)
>1461 :: 24 :: 長尾 景 / Nagao Kei (jp, nijisanji)
>1455 :: 19 :: Millie Parfait (en, nijisanji)
>1411 :: 12 :: 北小路ヒスイ / Kitakoji Hisui (jp, nijisanji)
>1410 :: 23 :: reine (id2, hololive)
>1403 :: 24 :: レイン・パターソン/Lain Paterson (jp, nijisanji)
>1391 :: 16 :: 桜凛月 (jp, nijisanji)
>1363 :: 21 :: Rosemi Lovelock (en, nijisanji)
>1340 :: 15 :: Finana Ryugu (en, nijisanji)
>1260 :: 11 :: iofi (id1, hololive)
>1200 :: 15 :: 山神 カルタ / Karuta Yamagami (jp, nijisanji)
>1166 :: 12 :: グウェル・オス・ガール / Gwelu Os Gar (jp, nijisanji)
>1159 :: 28 :: Shizuka Rin Official (jp, nijisanji)
>1154 :: 15 :: 鈴木勝 / Suzuki Masaru (jp, nijisanji)
>1126 :: 16 :: Petra Gurin (en, nijisanji)
>1070 :: 11 :: 西園チグサ / Nishizono Chigusa (jp, nijisanji)
>1040 :: 21 :: Enna Alouette (en, nijisanji)
-- Top 100
>1038 :: 14 :: Yuhi Riri Official (jp, nijisanji)
>1024 :: 20 :: roberu (stars2, hololive)
>978 :: 22 :: Nina Kosaka (en, nijisanji)
>977 :: 15 :: 来栖 夏芽-kurusu natsume- (jp, nijisanji)
>942 :: 23 :: 小野町 春香 / Onomachi Haruka (jp, nijisanji)
>891 :: 10 :: 森中花咲 (jp, nijisanji)
>883 :: 23 :: Reimu Endou (en, nijisanji)
>880 :: 10 :: 緑仙のゲームちゃんねる (jp, nijisanji)
>855 :: 17 :: フミ/にじさんじ (jp, nijisanji)
>793 :: 13 :: miyabi (stars1, hololive)
>780 :: 18 :: melfissa (id2, hololive)
>635 :: 11 :: shien (stars3, hololive)
>554 :: 34 :: aruran (stars1, hololive)
>550 :: 13 :: oga (stars3, hololive)
>539 :: 15 :: 瀬戸 美夜子 - Miyako Seto (jp, nijisanji)
>464 :: 14 :: 鈴谷アキの陽だまりの庭 (jp, nijisanji)
>460 :: 28 :: 神田笑一 (jp, nijisanji)
>416 :: 12 :: temma (stars2, hololive)
>415 :: 13 :: 雪城眞尋/Yukishiro Mahiro (jp, nijisanji)
>340 :: 21 :: 양나리 / Nari Yang (kr, nijisanji)
>340 :: 13 :: 소나기 / Nagi So (kr, nijisanji)
>304 :: 12 :: Mika Melatika (id, nijisanji)
>298 :: 11 :: 반하다 / Ban Hada (kr, nijisanji)
>275 :: 26 :: 세피나 / Seffyna (kr, nijisanji)
>227 :: 11 :: ZEA Cornelia (id, nijisanji)
>217 :: 24 :: 渋谷ハジメのはじめ支部 (jp, nijisanji)
>216 :: 21 :: Siska Leontyne (id, nijisanji)
>210 :: 12 :: 成瀬 鳴 / Naruse Naru (jp, nijisanji)
>209 :: 12 :: 이시우 / Siu Lee (kr, nijisanji)
>167 :: 20 :: Xia Ekavira (id, nijisanji)
>166 :: 18 :: 하윤 / Ha Yun (kr, nijisanji)
>155 :: 10 :: 민수하 / Suha Min (kr, nijisanji)
>145 :: 12 :: 오지유 / Jiyu Oh (kr, nijisanji)
>141 :: 15 :: 나세라 / Na Sera (kr, nijisanji)
>133 :: 16 :: Amicia Michella (id, nijisanji)
>118 :: 17 :: 이온 / Lee On (kr, nijisanji)
>117 :: 20 :: Reza Avanluna [NIJISANJI ID] (id, nijisanji)
>115 :: 13 :: 고야미 / Ko Yami (kr, nijisanji)
>104 :: 14 :: 한치호 / Chiho Han (kr, nijisanji)
>103 :: 10 :: Hyona Elatiora (id, nijisanji)
>82 :: 16 :: Riksa Dhirendra (id, nijisanji)
>78 :: 11 :: Etna Crimson (id, nijisanji)
>52 :: 17 :: Derem Kado (id, nijisanji)

>>12008437
>>12008488
These exclude all channels without at least ten (10) streams this month.

Here is the excluded list, for completeness sake

>median_peak :: num_streams :: vtuberid (gen, company)
>86039 :: 1 :: ayame (jp2, hololive)
>19982 :: 7 :: aqua (jp2, hololive)
>19122 :: 2 :: にじさんじ (jp, nijisanji)
>17779 :: 9 :: suisei (jp0, hololive)
>14331 :: 6 :: shion (jp2, hololive)
>13125 :: 6 :: 剣持刀也 (jp, nijisanji)
>10465 :: 1 :: NIJISANJI English Official (en, nijisanji)
>8493 :: 5 :: haato (jp1, hololive)
>8165 :: 9 :: アンジュ・カトリーナ - Ange Katrina - (jp, nijisanji)
>5647 :: 7 :: 戌亥とこ -Inui Toko- (jp, nijisanji)
>5362 :: 9 :: 花畑チャイカ (jp, nijisanji)
>4422 :: 1 :: 春崎エアル (jp, nijisanji)
>3752 :: 7 :: sana (en2, hololive)
>3638 :: 3 :: ラトナ・プティ -Ratna Petit - (jp, nijisanji)
>3415 :: 6 :: ジョー・力一 Joe Rikiichi (jp, nijisanji)
>3102 :: 9 :: 町田ちま (jp, nijisanji)
>2966 :: 5 :: シェリン・バーガンディ -Shellin Burgundy- (jp, nijisanji)
>2810 :: 7 :: mel (jp1, hololive)
>2475 :: 8 :: choco (jp2, hololive)
>2083 :: 7 :: 文野環【にじさんじの野良猫】ふみのたまき (jp, nijisanji)
>2079 :: 8 :: 卯月コウ (jp, nijisanji)
>2020 :: 1 :: 物述有栖 (jp, nijisanji)
>1668 :: 6 :: 緑仙 / Ryushen (jp, nijisanji)
>1641 :: 2 :: 相羽ういは〖Aiba Uiha〗 (jp, nijisanji)
>1466 :: 9 :: 白雪 巴/Shirayuki Tomoe (jp, nijisanji)
>1405 :: 5 :: 竜胆 尊 / Rindou Mikoto (jp, nijisanji)
>1389 :: 6 :: 弦月 藤士郎 / Genzuki Tojiro (jp, nijisanji)
>1324 :: 2 :: 黒井しば【にじさんじの犬】 (jp, nijisanji)
>1272 :: 3 :: 東堂コハク/ Todo Kohaku [にじさんじ] (jp, nijisanji)
>1232 :: 6 :: シスター・クレア -SisterClaire- (jp, nijisanji)
>1158 :: 6 :: risu (id1, hololive)
>1101 :: 7 :: メリッサ・キンレンカ (jp, nijisanji)
>993 :: 6 :: 赤羽葉子ちゃんねる (jp, nijisanji)
>764 :: 4 :: 朝日南アカネ / Asahina Akane (jp, nijisanji)
>710 :: 7 :: izuru (stars1, hololive)
>706 :: 5 :: えまおうがすと (jp, nijisanji)
>691 :: 3 :: 童田明治-わらべだめいじー- (jp, nijisanji)
>651 :: 6 :: 安土桃 (jp, nijisanji)
>646 :: 9 :: レヴィ・エリファ-Levi Elipha- (jp, nijisanji)
>577 :: 9 :: Hana Macchia Ch. (id, nijisanji)
>576 :: 5 :: 《の女神》モイラ (jp, nijisanji)
>518 :: 9 :: rikka (stars1, hololive)
>479 :: 2 :: Bonnivier Pranaja (id, nijisanji)
>465 :: 9 :: 空星きらめ/Sorahoshi Kirame (jp, nijisanji)
>458 :: 1 :: エリー・コニファー / Eli Conifer (jp, nijisanji)
>433 :: 6 :: 이로하 /LeeRoha (kr, nijisanji)
>386 :: 4 :: 아키라 레이 / 明楽 レイ / Ray Akira (kr, nijisanji)
>351 :: 8 :: 愛園 愛美/Aizono Manami (jp, nijisanji)
>347 :: 8 :: 轟京子/kyoko todoroki (jp, nijisanji)
>327 :: 8 :: 家長むぎ【】 (jp, nijisanji)
>249 :: 9 :: Miyu Ottavia (id, nijisanji)
>164 :: 6 :: Nara Haramaung (id, nijisanji)
>161 :: 8 :: 송미아 / Song Mia (kr, nijisanji)
>155 :: 8 :: Azura Cecillia (id, nijisanji)
>142 :: 8 :: Layla Alstroemeria [NIJISANJI ID] (id, nijisanji)
>142 :: 4 :: Taka Radjiman (id, nijisanji)
>127 :: 6 :: Rai Galilei (id, nijisanji)
>124 :: 4 :: 채아라 / Ara Chae (kr, nijisanji)
>117 :: 8 :: 류하리 / Hari Ryu (kr, nijisanji)
>61 :: 8 :: Nagisa Arcinia [NIJISANJI ID] (id, nijisanji)
>57 :: 4 :: 신기루 / Kiru Shin (kr, nijisanji)
>55 :: 7 :: 가온 / GAON (kr, nijisanji)
>31 :: 1 :: 犬童 / kendou (vr, nijisanji)

Is 10 a good cutting point? Should it be lower?

>>12008428
https://youtu.be/qyN5tNYhfSg
Yagoo is either the smartest man alive or the luckiest man alive. He would control the meme, control the internet.

>>12008590
Thanks anon. If you really don't wanna do 31v31, I think 20v20 is fine

>>12008590
5 seems reasonable but 10 is fine too. Props for injecting real numbers back into the thread. Man this really puts it in perspective. Kiara would be a top asset and Aki Rose would be a strong middleweight in Niji

Format
>position :: median_peak :: num_streams :: vtuberid (gen, company)

Here is the ranking, sorted by median peak, changed the cutting point to 5 streams to match what nip anons already do
>1. 28915 :: 27 :: pekora (jp3, hololive)
>2. 26675 :: 28 :: Kuzuha Channel (jp, nijisanji)
>3. 22336 :: 16 :: gura (en1, hololive)
>4. 19982 :: 7 :: aqua (jp2, hololive)
>5. 18779 :: 23 :: miko (jp0, hololive)
>6. 17779 :: 9 :: suisei (jp0, hololive)
>7. 17496 :: 20 :: subaru (jp2, hololive)
>8. 14836 :: 13 :: rushia (jp3, hololive)
>9. 14331 :: 6 :: shion (jp2, hololive)
>10. 13829 :: 13 :: ouro (en2, hololive)
>-- Top 10
>11. 13125 :: 6 :: 剣持刀也 (jp, nijisanji)
>12. 12981 :: 13 :: korone (jpgamers, hololive)
>13. 12756 :: 22 :: kanata (jp4, hololive)
>14. 12383 :: 19 :: botan (jp5, hololive)
>15. 11850 :: 13 :: mio (jpgamers, hololive)
>16. 11304 :: 34 :: Kanae Channel (jp, nijisanji)
>17. 11169 :: 27 :: fubuki (jp1, hololive)
>18. 10615 :: 12 :: リゼ・ヘルエスタ -Lize Helesta- (jp, nijisanji)
>19. 9895 :: 17 :: nene (jp5, hololive)
>20. 9724 :: 12 :: mumei (en2, hololive)
>21. 9615 :: 11 :: 月ノ美兎 (jp, nijisanji)
>22. 9404 :: 15 :: inanis (en1, hololive)
>23. 9366 :: 23 :: 不破 湊 / Fuwa Minato (jp, nijisanji)
>24. 9238 :: 17 :: irys (ensingers, hololive)
>25. 9203 :: 21 :: flare (jp3, hololive)
>26. 8874 :: 20 :: lamy (jp5, hololive)
>27. 8671 :: 10 :: noel (jp3, hololive)
>28. 8493 :: 5 :: haato (jp1, hololive)
>29. 8375 :: 17 :: ceres (en2, hololive)
>30. 8323 :: 741 :: hololive (corp0, hololive)
>31. 8323 :: 20 :: calliope (en1, hololive)
>32. 8165 :: 9 :: アンジュ・カトリーナ - Ange Katrina - (jp, nijisanji)
>33. 8138 :: 15 :: okayu (jpgamers, hololive)
>34. 8058 :: 14 :: amelia (en1, hololive)
>35. 8013 :: 20 :: 社築 (jp, nijisanji)
>36. 7858 :: 22 :: polka (jp5, hololive)
>37. 7718 :: 18 :: 加賀美 ハヤト/Hayato Kagami (jp, nijisanji)
>38. 7614 :: 26 :: イブラヒム (jp, nijisanji)
>39. 6959 :: 18 :: hakos (en2, hololive)
>40. 6605 :: 22 :: watame (jp4, hololive)
>41. 6206 :: 21 :: kiara (en1, hololive)
>42. 5851 :: 23 :: 勇気ちひろ (jp, nijisanji)
>43. 5783 :: 32 :: himemoriluna (jp4, hololive)
>44. 5688 :: 21 :: ニュイ・ソシエール //[Nui Sociere] (jp, nijisanji)
>45. 5647 :: 7 :: 戌亥とこ -Inui Toko- (jp, nijisanji)
>46. 5560 :: 17 :: フレン・E・ルスタリオ (jp, nijisanji)
>47. 5495 :: 31 :: towa (jp4, hololive)
>48. 5405 :: 20 :: アルス・アルマル -ars almal- (jp, nijisanji)
>49. 5362 :: 9 :: 花畑チャイカ (jp, nijisanji)
>50. 5275 :: 12 :: 笹木咲 / Sasaki Saku (jp, nijisanji)
>-- Top 50

(1/?)

>>12008921
>51. 4656 :: 12 :: 三枝明那 / Saegusa Akina (jp, nijisanji)
>52. 4602 :: 13 :: 樋口楓【にじさんじ所属】 (jp, nijisanji)
>53. 4371 :: 25 :: 夜見れな/yorumi rena【にじさんじ所属】 (jp, nijisanji)
>54. 4288 :: 29 :: レオス・ヴィンセント / Leos.Vincent (jp, nijisanji)
>55. 4217 :: 11 :: aki (jp1, hololive)
>56. 4181 :: 19 :: ローレン・イロアス / Lauren Iroas (jp, nijisanji)
>57. 4063 :: 14 :: sora (jp0, hololive)
>58. 3986 :: 14 :: 黛 灰 / Kai Mayuzumi (jp, nijisanji)
>59. 3859 :: 17 :: matsuri (jp1, hololive)
>60. 3819 :: 12 :: 椎名唯華 / Shiina Yuika (jp, nijisanji)
>61. 3767 :: 22 :: 本間ひまわり - Himawari Honma - (jp, nijisanji)
>62. 3755 :: 17 :: moona (id1, hololive)
>63. 3752 :: 7 :: sana (en2, hololive)
>64. 3536 :: 13 :: 舞元啓介 (jp, nijisanji)
>65. 3492 :: 15 :: 奈羅花 - Naraka - (jp, nijisanji)
>66. 3423 :: 13 :: 星川サラ / Sara Hoshikawa (jp, nijisanji)
>67. 3415 :: 6 :: ジョー・力一 Joe Rikiichi (jp, nijisanji)
>68. 3295 :: 21 :: アクシア・クローネ / Axia Krone (jp, nijisanji)
>69. 3194 :: 13 :: 伏見ガク【にじさんじ所属】 (jp, nijisanji)
>70. 3140 :: 17 :: 葉加瀬 冬雪 / Hakase Fuyuki (jp, nijisanji)
>71. 3102 :: 9 :: 町田ちま (jp, nijisanji)
>72. 3050 :: 11 :: ましろ / Mashiro (jp, nijisanji)
>73. 2966 :: 5 :: シェリン・バーガンディ -Shellin Burgundy- (jp, nijisanji)
>74. 2934 :: 25 :: roboco (jp0, hololive)
>75. 2864 :: 15 :: エクス・アルビオ -Ex Albio- (jp, nijisanji)
>76. 2810 :: 7 :: mel (jp1, hololive)
>77. 2763 :: 23 :: Selen Tatsuki (en, nijisanji)
>78. 2698 :: 22 :: 天宮 こころ / Amamya Ch. (jp, nijisanji)
>79. 2683 :: 19 :: ollie (id2, hololive)
>80. 2563 :: 18 :: 눈보라 / Bora Nun (kr, nijisanji)
>81. 2532 :: 18 :: 鷹宮リオン / Rion Takamiya (jp, nijisanji)
>82. 2475 :: 8 :: choco (jp2, hololive)
>83. 2411 :: 11 :: 鈴鹿詩子 Utako Suzuka (jp, nijisanji)
>84. 2369 :: 45 :: 甲斐田 晴 / Kaida Haru (jp, nijisanji)
>85. 2324 :: 11 :: でびでび・でびる (jp, nijisanji)
>86. 2263 :: 14 :: 魔使マオ -matsukai mao- (jp, nijisanji)
>87. 2215 :: 10 :: ドーラ (jp, nijisanji)
>88. 2162 :: 14 :: ルイス・キャミー (jp, nijisanji)
>89. 2083 :: 7 :: 文野環【にじさんじの野良猫】ふみのたまき (jp, nijisanji)
>90. 2079 :: 8 :: 卯月コウ (jp, nijisanji)
>91. 1896 :: 18 :: 周央 サンゴ / Suo Sango (jp, nijisanji)
>92. 1883 :: 34 :: える / Elu (jp, nijisanji)
>93. 1858 :: 13 :: 葉山舞鈴 / Hayama Marin (jp, nijisanji)
>94. 1855 :: 19 :: オリバー・エバンス / Oliver Evans (jp, nijisanji)
>95. 1795 :: 19 :: Elira Pendora (en, nijisanji)
>96. 1773 :: 15 :: ベルモンド・バンデラス (jp, nijisanji)
>97. 1741 :: 11 :: 夢追翔のJUKE BOX (jp, nijisanji)
>98. 1738 :: 13 :: astel (stars2, hololive)
>99. 1710 :: 22 :: Pomu Rainpuff (en, nijisanji)
>100. 1668 :: 6 :: 緑仙 / Ryushen (jp, nijisanji)
>-- Top 100
(2/?)

>>12008966
>101. 1596 :: 14 :: 魔界ノりりむ (jp, nijisanji)
>102. 1481 :: 15 :: 【3年0組】郡道美玲の教室 (jp, nijisanji)
>103. 1466 :: 9 :: 白雪 巴/Shirayuki Tomoe (jp, nijisanji)
>104. 1461 :: 24 :: 長尾 景 / Nagao Kei (jp, nijisanji)
>105. 1455 :: 19 :: Millie Parfait (en, nijisanji)
>106. 1411 :: 12 :: 北小路ヒスイ / Kitakoji Hisui (jp, nijisanji)
>107. 1410 :: 23 :: reine (id2, hololive)
>108. 1405 :: 5 :: 竜胆 尊 / Rindou Mikoto (jp, nijisanji)
>109. 1403 :: 24 :: レイン・パターソン/Lain Paterson (jp, nijisanji)
>110. 1391 :: 16 :: 桜凛月 (jp, nijisanji)
>111. 1389 :: 6 :: 弦月 藤士郎 / Genzuki Tojiro (jp, nijisanji)
>112. 1363 :: 21 :: Rosemi Lovelock (en, nijisanji)
>113. 1340 :: 15 :: Finana Ryugu (en, nijisanji)
>114. 1260 :: 11 :: iofi (id1, hololive)
>115. 1232 :: 6 :: シスター・クレア -SisterClaire- (jp, nijisanji)
>116. 1200 :: 15 :: 山神 カルタ / Karuta Yamagami (jp, nijisanji)
>117. 1166 :: 12 :: グウェル・オス・ガール / Gwelu Os Gar (jp, nijisanji)
>118. 1159 :: 28 :: Shizuka Rin Official (jp, nijisanji)
>119. 1158 :: 6 :: risu (id1, hololive)
>120. 1154 :: 15 :: 鈴木勝 / Suzuki Masaru (jp, nijisanji)
>121. 1126 :: 16 :: Petra Gurin (en, nijisanji)
>122. 1101 :: 7 :: メリッサ・キンレンカ (jp, nijisanji)
>123. 1070 :: 11 :: 西園チグサ / Nishizono Chigusa (jp, nijisanji)
>124. 1040 :: 21 :: Enna Alouette (en, nijisanji)
>125. 1038 :: 14 :: Yuhi Riri Official (jp, nijisanji)
>126. 1024 :: 20 :: roberu (stars2, hololive)
>127. 993 :: 6 :: 赤羽葉子ちゃんねる (jp, nijisanji)
>128. 978 :: 22 :: Nina Kosaka (en, nijisanji)
>129. 977 :: 15 :: 来栖 夏芽-kurusu natsume- (jp, nijisanji)
>130. 942 :: 23 :: 小野町 春香 / Onomachi Haruka (jp, nijisanji)
>131. 891 :: 10 :: 森中花咲 (jp, nijisanji)
>132. 883 :: 23 :: Reimu Endou (en, nijisanji)
>133. 880 :: 10 :: 緑仙のゲームちゃんねる (jp, nijisanji)
>134. 855 :: 17 :: フミ/にじさんじ (jp, nijisanji)
>135. 793 :: 13 :: miyabi (stars1, hololive)
>136. 780 :: 18 :: melfissa (id2, hololive)
>137. 710 :: 7 :: izuru (stars1, hololive)
>138. 706 :: 5 :: えまおうがすと (jp, nijisanji)
>139. 651 :: 6 :: 安土桃 (jp, nijisanji)
>140. 646 :: 9 :: レヴィ・エリファ-Levi Elipha- (jp, nijisanji)
>141. 635 :: 11 :: shien (stars3, hololive)
>142. 577 :: 9 :: Hana Macchia Ch. (id, nijisanji)
>143. 576 :: 5 :: 《にじさんじ所属の女神》モイラ (jp, nijisanji)
>144. 554 :: 34 :: aruran (stars1, hololive)
>145. 550 :: 13 :: oga (stars3, hololive)
>146. 539 :: 15 :: 瀬戸 美夜子 - Miyako Seto (jp, nijisanji)
>147. 518 :: 9 :: rikka (stars1, hololive)
>148. 465 :: 9 :: 空星きらめ/Sorahoshi Kirame (jp, nijisanji)
>149. 464 :: 14 :: 鈴谷アキの陽だまりの庭 (jp, nijisanji)
>150. 460 :: 28 :: 神田笑一 (jp, nijisanji)
>151. 433 :: 6 :: 이로하 /LeeRoha (kr, nijisanji)
>152. 416 :: 12 :: temma (stars2, hololive)
>153. 415 :: 13 :: 雪城眞尋/Yukishiro Mahiro【にじさんじ所属】 (jp, nijisanji)
>154. 351 :: 8 :: 愛園 愛美/Aizono Manami (jp, nijisanji)
>155. 347 :: 8 :: 轟京子/kyoko todoroki (jp, nijisanji)
>156. 340 :: 21 :: 양나리 / Nari Yang (kr, nijisanji)
>157. 340 :: 13 :: 소나기 / Nagi So (kr, nijisanji)
>158. 327 :: 8 :: 家長むぎ【にじさんじ所属】 (jp, nijisanji)
>159. 304 :: 12 :: Mika Melatika (id, nijisanji)
>160. 298 :: 11 :: 반하다 / Ban Hada (kr, nijisanji)
>161. 275 :: 26 :: 세피나 / Seffyna (kr, nijisanji)
>162. 249 :: 9 :: Miyu Ottavia (id, nijisanji)
>163. 227 :: 11 :: ZEA Cornelia (id, nijisanji)
>164. 217 :: 24 :: 渋谷ハジメのはじめ支部 (jp, nijisanji)
>165. 216 :: 21 :: Siska Leontyne (id, nijisanji)
>166. 210 :: 12 :: 成瀬 鳴 / Naruse Naru (jp, nijisanji)
>167. 209 :: 12 :: 이시우 / Siu Lee (kr, nijisanji)
>168. 167 :: 20 :: Xia Ekavira (id, nijisanji)
>169. 166 :: 18 :: 하윤 / Ha Yun (kr, nijisanji)
>170. 164 :: 6 :: Nara Haramaung (id, nijisanji)
>171. 161 :: 8 :: 송미아 / Song Mia (kr, nijisanji)
>172. 155 :: 8 :: Azura Cecillia (id, nijisanji)
>173. 155 :: 10 :: 민수하 / Suha Min (kr, nijisanji)
>174. 145 :: 12 :: 오지유 / Jiyu Oh (kr, nijisanji)
>175. 142 :: 8 :: Layla Alstroemeria [NIJISANJI ID] (id, nijisanji)
>176. 141 :: 15 :: 나세라 / Na Sera (kr, nijisanji)
>177. 133 :: 16 :: Amicia Michella (id, nijisanji)
>178. 127 :: 6 :: Rai Galilei (id, nijisanji)
>179. 118 :: 17 :: 이온 / Lee On (kr, nijisanji)
>180. 117 :: 8 :: 류하리 / Hari Ryu (kr, nijisanji)
>181. 117 :: 20 :: Reza Avanluna (id, nijisanji)
>182. 115 :: 13 :: 고야미 / Ko Yami (kr, nijisanji)
>183. 104 :: 14 :: 한치호 / Chiho Han (kr, nijisanji)
>184. 103 :: 10 :: Hyona Elatiora (id, nijisanji)
>185. 82 :: 16 :: Riksa Dhirendra (id, nijisanji)
>186. 78 :: 11 :: Etna Crimson (id, nijisanji)
>187. 61 :: 8 :: Nagisa Arcinia (id, nijisanji)
>188. 55 :: 7 :: 가온 / GAON (kr, nijisanji)
>189. 52 :: 17 :: Derem Kado (id, nijisanji)

>>12008315
I'm jus glad that Irys and Council brings out a different phase of Mori and Gura (Ina too).

>>12008921
>>12008966
>>12009008
Some results there surprised me

>Selen almost matching Mel
Very good, very surprising, truly standing out from her branch

>Astel matching Pomu and closing in to Elira
Very good, very surprising, truly standing out from his branch

>Bora Nun matching Choco
Very good, very surprising, truly standing out from her branch

>Moona matching Sana and both outmatching Hoshikawa and Axia Krone
DIdn't see that one coming either

>>12008921
>that top 10

>>12009191
>Moona
She is THE biggest indonesian vtuber. I'm surprised the entire indo weeb scene isn't plastering her everywhere

>>12009246
Anykara should thank their lucky stars that Kuzuha is a fucking neet and hasn't gone full lebron on their asses.

>>11998693
Needs Russian to take advantage of the RU fanbase that Botan has, as well as steal some RU fans from Nina.

>>12009322
You know why she's the biggest on ID. The partnerships also reflect that.

how do you think Sora feel seeing and witnessing first-hand how big Hololive has grown over the years

>>12009407
Like a proud goddess looking at her creation with a satisfied smile on her face. Her and FBK are probably the ones who are the most invested in the Hololive project.

>>12008921
Slight mistake on 30. It’s an aggregate and shouldn’t be there.

Everyone below it move up a position

for you newfags who weren't here to witness Gura's initial insane growth. I doubt we will see numbers like this ever again.

>>12009750
kek I remember people speculating whether Fubuki or Korone would get 1 mil first and then Gura just speeds past them

>>12009750
A mega hyped ES gen might do it simply because the ES base is huge albeit poor

>>12008921
33 out of 50 is hololive, 9 of it is top 10.

>>12009750
https://youtu.be/fIRwg6_JR4E?t=173

>>12009906
I don't remember the exact numbers but Gura was getting an insane amount of subscribers a day and she maintained that for the rest of 2020.
>>12009962
maybe but it's going to be hard to recreate that initial magic that HoloEN had due to it being the perfect storm release time.

>>12009407
It certainly motivated her to stream more and join the fun

>>12009906
I wasn't much a numberfag back then, numbers too big, too fast to make sense out of it

>>12010103
she was gainign 30k a day every month after debut until february

>>12010103
True but the ES market is wiiiiide open. They need to spend some time pandering and then have the talents hype the gen to the moon and even engage with the hellhole that is the Twitch/yt ES sphere and it could do it. Not sure it’s worth it though

>>12010109
>fastest growing
>most subscribers
>highest CCV
>most superchatted
Hololive actually ruined numberfagging, at least in the area where it is quantifiable.

>>12010109
You can see it from how many collabs she is able to do now. She has people to play DBD now. Just compare her numbers playing it alone recently and when she was playing it with other people. The difference is almost twice. Mori on the other hand has always flourished in her zatsus but people that don't watch her won't know that so having people like Bae and Irys exposes a big crowd to a calm engaged Mori improves her optics.

>>12010293
People resort to number fagging between JP and EN or ID vs Niji female. That’s how bad it is.

Am I reading this right? Kiara would be top ten Niji? You’d think she was bottom half the way she is talked about.

>>12008595
This is isn't really Yagoo's effort. This is the effectiveness of his scouting team. Yagoo is the idea man that just greenlits ideas when he sees them. His management on the other hand are the breaks that prevents everything from blowing up into shambles. Whether or not those decisions were unsavory to viewers because management is supposed to play the part pooper anyways.

>>12010517
No, the 10th niji is #38 and kiara is 41st, rather polka would be on niji top 10

>>12010643
so you're telling me every gen5 member would be top 10 in niji? the gen 5 schizo won't like this...

>>12010331
Make the 2 most powerful ENgine in the branch more powerful.

>>12010517
It's actually Kiara that brings herself down a lot which turns into sensationalized clips. Many of the people reacting to her are mostly annoyed because why would a person who is successful comparatively numberwise even share these moments of thoughts in public. It looks so conceited. Botan I think had the best anti-numberfag moment during her 1M event where she said she didn't feel she earned her place and have wondered for the longest when can she really say she earned her sub count. I'd say she earned every sub.

>>12010517
taking a quick look on her channel, she hasnt played much jrpg to poison her numbers this october

>>12010517
Kiara does decent when she's not playing JRPGs for 8 hours a day twice a week.

>>12008921
I just realized
>Marine excluded, no stream
>Ayame excluded (her only stream is the 3D live with 86k peak ccv)
So effectively, 2 spots was given to Niji

>Pomu has the highest views in the current collab
>Elira and finana didn't suffer any lose in views

Man lazulight is built different

>>12011178
If you add Ayame and Marine into the mix then Mori and HoloMain will be bumped down. Not a niji. It's going to be the same for the top20

>>12011251
>6 nijiEN streaming
>4 started at the same time

>>12008921
rank without Ayame and Marine.

>>12011251
>Ethyria go to sub 1k

Numbers

>>12011320
Nina and selen are the only ones who care about not overlapping

>>12011363
ew

>>12007427
Roboco only makes those numbers in other events, collabs and what not. Her normal numbers aren't like this at all. She would be in one of the bottoms in nijisanji.

>>12011363
prism.... phase... ganbatte

>>12011363
Do you think it would help every NijiEN gen if they also had a 1 month collab ban to establish their fanbase?
>>12008921
Man. Irys and Council sure did help bump down some Nijis

>>12011479
The bottoms of Nijis are 100-1k CCV. Roboco gets 2k+ regularly

https://hololive.wiki/wiki/Main_Page
in case you didn't know, Hololive has a wiki page. you can use it to check people's milestones/goals

Man the amount of fanboyism for hololive in here is disgusting kek. How do you guys feel to suck yagoo's dick?

>>12011527
It would, but not by much. It heavily depends on what appeal they can cater to. They would still lose viewers solely due to the initial streams they chose to do.

Them doing lots of reintroduction streams, donation streams, and watchalongs really hurt their growth.
That means there's not much excitement when they get over the collab ban like it is with Hololive.

I'd say the collab ban is genius because it's effectively extends the debut buff that new Holo talents have. NijiEN Wave 3 effectively had no debut buff to extend.

>>12011755
Or you can just keep being cringe and keep calling the only person in Niji that draws in the big numbers as King. It's a really hard choice.

>>12011479
>She would be in one of the bottoms in nijisan
But can those niji bottom arranged a collab that get roboco collab numbers?

>>12011525
gacha is too powerful
>>12011527
The collab ban would have been a debuff for members like selen since her main thing is collab but it's hard to say for Ethyria. Their first week was weak in terms of content, collab ban or not. In fact they should have gotten a buff from selen's mega collab

>>12011755
This is the numbers thread
Yagoo gives us numbers

Suki ni natte! Motto!
Watashi wo mite! Motto!

>>12011646
I'm not talking about that bottom. There's 4 places above her in nijisanji.

>>12010859
Kiara said exactly the same and got shit on for it.

>>12011479
Robot would be a low high-tier in Nijisanji. That's just how strong Holos are.

>>12011876
I'm a 774 fan.

>>12011755
From nobody to the top market leader
From rags to riches
Only made from Yagoo's home for broken people

>>12011889
Roboco hasn't really done any 1on1 collabs or 1POV group collabs with a top holo recently. Only with midtier but she still keeps up her CCV twice above your bottom tier Niji.

>>12011959
Did she? Botan said that she got to 100k quick because of the holo buff but 1M feels different, she felt like she really earned this. No comparisons made to the other girls in her gen or the company. What did Kiara say exactly?

>>12011889
Depending on the event yes. In Koshien for example Onomachi was doing 10k.
>>12011527
> collab ban
> nijisanji
> gen
holy holobrony

>>12011959
the holosphere doesn't want unnecessary and unwarranted drama, knowing holojp started at a much cruel state than her silver platter.

it seems she improved now and got over the numberfagging

>>12011938
>I'm not talking about that bottom
>She would be in one of the bottoms in nijisanji.

>>12012064
Do you guys think that Cover scouts for people with sad backstories just for the "idol journey" buff?

>>12012107
stay mad nijibronie

>>12012107
Koshien was an event. Can they arrange a run of the mill UNO collab and get big numbers like Roboco can?

>>12012107
They are already hiring Holo rejects. We might as well theorize if they can get any traction by employing Holo tactics. Consensus looks like they won't

>>12012216
Im sure that it was just a coincidence, They wete nobodies, they had to accept anyone, ANYONE who can grind. They formulated success of course, the feed backs, they must have liked it and maybe just maybe, backstories are a bonus for the current applicants.

>>12009334
Nijisanji without Kuzuha still would be doing great anon. The world isn't about winning about the other company like a fucking playstation fanboy.

>>12011959
She said in a Kiara way unfortunately by saying she hopes those subs were not pity subs. Like fuck. why.

>>12011864
They don't have a collab ban. The collab ban actually helps Hololivers.
It forces them to bond as a gen, create their own identity and gives them a second wave of hype when its lifted.

>>12012216
They didn't recruit Pomu which has the most saviorfag backstory i have ever seen in a chubba

>>12012446
April 2021, May 2021
July 2021, August 2021
September 2021

no June pic numbers. only list

>>12011938
She looks mid-tier to me here though.

>>12012107
>In Koshien
>comparing koshien to fucking UNO or Devour collab
ok

>>12011363
3 digit views? 2 digit views?!? My eyes!

>>12012392
Consensus seems like you guys are retards talking in a vacuum, sorry.
>>12012468
Yagoo trained you very well. You literally use the same arguments as redditards. Collab ban is futile and retarded. Thank god I'm not brainwashed by that shit anymore.

>>12012521
Try Subaru

>>12012407
Why are you on the numbers thread then?

>>12000599
>I just find it rather weird to believe that HoloEN management, who greenlight'd collabs with males and with VShojo (who is way bigger than NijiEN, mind you), would have any particular issue with a NijiEN x Holo collab
All NijiEN likely needs is to be noticed by a Western audience, and since they are on same platform, boosting them by collabs with Hololive is fucking retarded.

I heard your call

post more numbers instead of tribal war posting

>>12012569
>>12012300
>>12012569
why i'm not surprised that the hololive thread don't accept anything.

>>12012407
>numbers thread
>n-no n-numbers dont matter!
Go back to niji if you like midgets you cunt.

>>12012633
And you still haven't responded in a meaningful way other than saying you used to watch Hololive. It's all hurr durr I hate Hololive. me watch other vtubers.

>>12012633
Seethe more. Collab ban is genius because it introduces a second buff for numbers once it's lifted.

People begin theorizing potential interaction and who might have good chemistry in the week leading to the removal of the ban and they get themselves hyped.

>>12012782
>SEAmonkey
Yes me think Niji good Holo bad! Uuga booga!

>>12012729
the western audience already knows NijiEN. It's mostly the casuals that don't watch anything besides a couple of holos and maybe a vshojo that don't know anything about them

>>12012806
I'm sorry that you are a retard who spout the literal same bullshit that every single holofag says. You don't question hololive either because you only care about numbers.
>>12012803
I don't care about nijisanji, I'm a 774 fan.

Hewwo, I just wanted to sell merch, please don't be mad at me uwu

>>12012849
HMMMM Yagoo's dick looks delicious today. Me only watch holo me not know anything about vtubers outside of hololive. me only watch hololive. UHHHH Big numbers only 10k is good.

>>12012633
This man looks like a brainwashed person who sees everybody is being brainwashed

>>12012782
We are talking about Roboco here that gets 2k on a regular without any buffs like koshien nor collabs. You are qouting a chuuba's number that had a koshien buff. Qoute actual numbers

>>12012905
i'm a niji fan and I love yagoo more than riku