/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Idk i just voted for who I like most

>>11954202
Do any of them know any redstone. That's the only depth minecraft has.

Kiara

just ask the rabbit

>>11954202
Moona, unironically. I haven't seen anyone else build secret doors via redstone contraption. Rather than a great expanse of traps, chambers and various easter eggs only accessible via switches that ideally won't even be placed in obvious or directly nearby locations, EN constructs are incredibly simplistic and low IQ. I bet they don't even have an obsydian, monster filled, creeper-spawning dungeon to drop people into so they can watch them fight for their lives in a desperate attempt to find a way out. Truly disgraceful.

how is Ame not winning?

PPP basically gives her the title, her creations are always much more difficult and require intellectual work and time.

What has Ina even made besides the Iron farm from 8 months ago?

>>11955016
Ame spends a lot more time on MC than Ina does, but it's Ina who has the better equipment and better resources.

Also, some of you really want to vote for the orange chicken who dug a deep hole in the middle of nowhere, proceeded to die in it twice and also forget that she was the one who dug it?

>>11955318
holy cope teacuck

ame dug that hole

>>11955016
hahahaha
lol

>>11955318
It's a funny hole. How is that a demerit to anyone?

>>11954855
>EN

If i'm being honest, none of them. Sure, some have made the occasional redstone contraption or farm, but none of them have shown advanced knowledge on the best resource grind which is villager set ups. Phoenixton is a fucking nightmare; half the villagers are free roaming, the other half are stuck in boats which is arguably worse since they can't flee from a stray zombie, and all of them are pointlessly expensive. Just by curing a zombie villager and turning them into a blacksmith, you've cut the price of diamond gear down to around 10~ per piece, or 1 emerald per piece if you can cure convert and cure.

Villagers are one of the most broken things in minecraft and it appalls me that none of them have properly abused their mechanics. Just a blacksmith and a fletcher could convert fucking STICKS into armor/toolsets. HoloEN can build okay but I think their deeper knowledge is severely lacking. As the server grows, non-renewable stuff like diamonds is only going to become more scarce and make things harder for them. Without tools, building projects are far more time consuming. Without armor, getting the resources for them is going to result in a lot of death. They wouldn't have to use the mob grinder so often if they didn't die so frequently.

TLDR; they can build okay but I wouldn't call any of them good at the game by a stretch except MAYBE Mamatori and Fauna.

t. minecraft turboautist

>>11954855
Moona obviously copies from MC youtubers and Hermicraft gimmicks, technology. No signature contraptions, all copied homework.

>>11954258

>>11966211
> Phoenixton is a fucking nightmare; half the villagers are free roaming, the other half are stuck in boats which is arguably worse since they can't flee from a stray zombie
Phoenixton hasn't been like that for some time. Try watching streams, clipnigger scum.

>>11973370
The last I saw of it in fauna's most recent minecraft stream, it was still like that.

>>11954202
i picked kiara just because other options are worse

>>11973370
Free roaming and in boats. This stream was on October 21st, which was 4~ days ago.

>>11966211
Kiara has already cured zombie villagers, please catch up to current Phoenixton

>>11955318
Wait wtf for real? i'm gonna vote kiara now

>>11973809
It's a nice looking village tho.

>>11974309
Circles back to my point. They can build decently but don't have tight grips on the better strategies.

>>11974010
She has, but until I see ENs stop walking around with iron anything, i'll believe it. If they had JP's setups nobody in theory should be having anything less than diamond. The only reason I think they don't is that it's so easy that it mitigates impact. For example, Kronii's death after chasing fauna would've had a lot less impact if she could've just gone to kiara-land with a few stacks of sticks or some iron and gotten pretty much everything back that she might've lost.

>>11974495
I'm not the anon you were arguing with, and I don't have the opportunity to watch the minecraft streams. How do you make an attractive but efficient village though?

>>11955016
Ame does not even fly around

>>11954202
kiara's mom

>>11973033
>he thinks, all of the automatic farms in the server are not copied
kek

>>11974606
With villagers, there's no reason for them to roam around outside unless you're trying to breed them. Pekora gets called a war criminal for how she sets things up but it's really just her being optimal.

You actually DON'T need a village to begin with. Instead you should focus on making a single, large structure.
On the inside, a good way to organize villagers is like this. It's not pretty, but it's a basic skeleton you can get creative with. separating them into stalls, making multiple floors and organizing them by jobs, creating signage, all of these are massive improvements to be made. Villagers are actually not hard to micromanage since they pathfind to their jobsite block on their own, so this is very do-able as long as they're all in a structure, preferably with gates/iron doors so they can't escape.

>>11974932
and yet holojp is a flat souless wasteland
kiara already said it in one of her streams, if she wanted to be optimal shed just go to jp and take all their shit for free

>>11974932

>>11975477
I want to fuck Amebee so bad.

>>11975426
If we're talking about the same thing, she said she didn't feel it was fair to use JP's stuff. She only wanted to use the Resources available on the EN server, that doesn't prevent her from recreating something similar to what JP has on the EN side.

>Flare
best architect and interior designer in MC
>Moona
best all-round. makes some of the best contraptions in holoserver
>Pegor
crazy war criminal who's expert at redstone.
>Haachama
pure "winging it" autist. makes the best wooden structures in the server
>Kanata
best elytra flyer. also blue axolotl.
>Watame
cute statues.
>Shiraken
best Kensetsu in the server currently due to how well organized they are
>Nene
big project autism
>Ina
makes most of the efficient farms in the EN server. good Elytra flyer too.
>Kronii
bunkeronii. also very autistic about her belongings.
>Fubuki
RTA expert
>Fauna
same with Fubuki, but to a less extent.
>Kiara
Phoenixton is her pride, tho there are more efficient ways to organize villagers like Usaken Trade Center and God of Shike.
>Ame
#Ameway. created PPP through sheer autism

>>11966211
>>11973370
>>11973809
>>11974495
>>11974932
Pheonixton was actually better BEFORE the Mamatori renovations. It's a fucking maze of paths and doorways now, and the golems can't reach everyone to protect them.

Didn't it get fucked by a zombie invasion triggered by JP tourists recently?

>>11975594
Please send me clips or timestamps of Kanata flying

>>11975565
its all degrees on the same fundamental idea, that theres absolutely no reason to do the most efficient thing

>>11975784
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCz8yJr1y38
actually i havent seen them myself, but at least i can vouch at what others say about her skill. the other flyer that's good i saw myself is Pegor since she can consistently fly at the small gap between the Akushion pixel art with ease.

>>11976039
I beg to differ when you're making something that's widely needed by the server. You're essentially creating a service if you're handing something like this.

>>11976261
Damn she good. Kiara is pretty good too (but retarded).

>>11954251
>only depth
Well there's also architectural design and survivability.

>>11954251
Hey! Building also has depth, but yes, those are the only two things
Also, Ina, shes objectively the best

>>11955016
dude, desu ppp,s spawn rate is shit. ens best exp farm rn is unironically kiaras slave camp and it make me seethe so fucking hard you cant believe how may times i cried myself to sleep because of it. i hope ame willing to spend at last 1 hour of her life learning how mob farm work, it needs to be higher, bigger and a better mob collection system.

>>11955016
PPP was dogshit until Ina tried to salvage it with modifications.
Ame's "proficiency" in MC comes from watching 10 minute video before stream and then replicating it without any understanding of game mechanics of what she is actually making

>>11977130
Why are you guys talking about Elythra flying, its not a hard thing to do, barely counts as a skill

Honestly the best is Ina, objectively, but shes not even that good, in general Hololive's skill and game knowledge is incredibly low, the are girls that still get scared when a skeleton hits them when they are in full diamond armor

>>11974932
>>11966211
Wasn't there a rrat where Kiara wanted to make Phoenixton an actually good looking village structure, but Mamatori wanted to make an efficient trading hall? Also thanks for the autism, I knew villagers were powerful but not to that extent.

>>11986932
>Wasn't there a rrat where Kiara wanted to make Phoenixton an actually good looking village structure, but Mamatori wanted to make an efficient trading hall?
It's not a rrat, Kiara directly says it.

What bothers me the most about the EN server is that everyone uses (and dies to!) magma elevators instead of just dropping into a waterlogged slab.

If Ina is so good, why doesn’t she make anything?

>>11993317
Her builds are mostly comfy architecture, she did the onsen?
but i think the best build on en is kiara's shrine, even the jps were awed by that

>>11954202
Kiara's mom

I'm not really that familiar with Ina's level.
She has a lot of cool projects, but I dunno if any of them were copy/paste.
Ame doesn't rtfm so she's learned a lot about how Minecraft works on a theoretical level.

>>11974932
That reminds me of when Mumei said she doesn't like seeing the chickens in that machine.

>>11993317
Ina literally made PPP usable and got Amelia so mad about it, that she wants to demolish it

>>11988653
Here's a set up from a personal world just for further proof that it's possible.

>>11966211
Also villagers are able to do a lot more stuff
Every enchantment (minus Soul Speed), Golden Carrots, effect arrows, pretty usable aditional source of quartz, they are used for Iron Farms (1,3k/hour, only for three villagers), ender pearls, lapiz lazuli and redstone, also obvious emeralds for beacons
Its mind boggling how they havent nerfed them yet

>>11997186
Yep. Diamond armor's just the most important though since it's so hard to renew. You can't get lapis (you trade that to GET emeralds, unless there's a random trade that isn't from the cleric i'm not aware of.) out of it but everything else you mentioned is valid, and why I rag on them so hard for not using it to even a part of it's potential.

>>11973809
>2 jobless in a boat
>4 iron buyer are all together under the bell
>2 melon buyer next to each other
>books seller are all together
Looks functional enough to me.

>>11996204
>got Amelia so mad about it
no fucking way.
you lie.

>>11997432
Im pretty sure you buy lapiz and sell gold, could be the other way around, maybe
It just baffles me how no streamers use them, and the majority of the playerbase that claims to play the game well doesnt recognize their existence

>>11975594
Forgot Miko being best zenloss but She actually is one that used to help Peko with redstone back in the day and she's done all the mapping of the JP server and has them as you are here centers.

Honestly, after reading this thread i went to watch some Fauna speedruns, shes not good (expect since she presumably stsrted doing those when she stsrted streaming), but honestly, she seems to have game knowledge, she lacks practice (A lot of it), nothing much more
Shes probably the best EN

>>11954202
whoever made Nuko
as Zains, it's now our Mecca

> Flare
best designer, most of her work is original and have harmony with the environment
good at playing safe, not good at combat tho
> Shion
best melee player
> Pekora
literally just copied what normal SMP doing
but has good mechanic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S72XCko3JNc
check 2:00:00
> Kanata
on par with Peko with many aspect, just not enough popularity
> Fauna
actually the best player.
has best game knowledge that she plans to do an all advancement in HoloSMP
Also has much higher ceiling on speedrunning than the 2:41 record
Delivered mechanic clutch plays like MLG in her run already

>>12005339
Shion being the mest melee player isnt saying much, majority of the holos get nervous when a skeleton hits them
Also, how good is Fauna? Like, her record

>>12005339
> Flare
Too bad Kiara ruined her EN tour. I wanted her take on the EN builds.

>>11974932
>With villagers, there's no reason for them to roam around outside unless you're trying to breed them
One thing I agree with Kiara. Villagers deserve Freedom.

>>12005944
Let me break it down the "record". Here I use the timer shown on screen for reference:
00:11 textbook play for looting desert temple.
03:10 bad village loot order that cost her 3 minutes but not a big deal in a 2 hour run. Should have get 3 wood logs before entering village but saved by picking deadbush. The fact that she said the pro runner knows the village order shows her capability to improve on those tiny thing
10:30 she is the only holo able to do the lava portal trick
12:00 bad bastion routing but honestly nothing to blame with. Bastion is the most important part of MC speedrunning and single handedly makes 1.16.1 the only viable version to play. When Fubuki did her 1.17 run, she ignored bastion. Fauna tried her best to loot bastion within her knowledge.
14:15 textbook play to get rid of hoglin on the way
22:48 leaving bastion. At this point I thought she will get a sub-hour by throwing pearls.
24:00 good play using pie chart and altering render distance to locate fortress (or treasure bastion if unfortune). I bet there's only 0.5% audience actually understood what Fauna was doing
29:33 blunder play while going to fortress. The fortress is just 20 render distance away from where she started. She traveled to a different fortress 1000 blocks away at the 45 minutes mark. It costed her 2 potions and probably the worst play in the run. Textbook play will be pearling into lava, swim up, look around, and pearl again. Textbook play with average mechanic will guarantee a 33 minute mark fortress enter, while still having 2 fire potion for blaze fight.
49:00 bad blaze fight. She seems unaware with the blaze fireball animation. She could have used jump crit 3 times to kill more blaze in a fireball cycle. Some holo will do a better job fighting blazes than her. Also if she is uncomfortable with her mechanics, she could have crafted respawn anchor in the fortress so she would not lost her progress.
1:08:00 triangulation to estimate the stronghold location. It is not executed well honestly but she get the point. It saved a lot of eye that might break. Not pearling here costs her 10 minutes.
1:36:00 textbook play on locating the stronghold chunk and digging the correct coordinates that will always put her in the middle of the starter staircase.
1:39:43 enter end. She tried to mimic top runner to do one cycle but it is actually more complicated than it looks.
To execute a good dragon split, runner has to understand:
1. set up a obsidian on the perch pillar in either north-south direction
2. stand in either north or south direction far
3. watch dragon perch animation, pearl into the pillar when dragon turn his head towards the perching pillar
4. time the bed when the dragon head hitbox is right above the bed.
5. Click the first 1-2 pixel of the bed to deal max damage

I think Fauna will able to achieve sub-30 minutes by February if she keep playing weekly

>>12012693
amazing, I may watch her now.

>>12011906
They are lines of code.

Butin all seriousness, people cage them for their own good. Letting them roam free is asking for them to get zombie'd.