/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>want to train my voice
>too scared to talk to myself
why do I have to be like this?

>>11892093
Do it anyways!

>>11892093
Just do what I did and get a bird ez

>>11892129
>>11892186
I'LL DO IT
I don't know what I'm doing, but I'm gonna do it

where is everyone?

>>11893375
Watching streams and doing reps

>>11893375
I'm here.

Is there a way for dude to use a voice changer and get a decent feminine voice out of it? Even if it's only in post-production?
Someone recommended using a "a pitch shifting VST plugin" but there are a shitton of them and I have no real idea which I should pick or how to configure it.

>>11893813
It's not worth it.

>>11893964
Crap.
Guess I will need to glue a voice recognition software to a voice synthesis one or something.

>>11894344
Why do you want to change your voice?

>>11894381
How successful is the average male vtuber compared to the average female one?
That's why.

>>11894555
You're going down a fruitless and unsuccessful road trying to pass yourself off as female with a voice changer. Don't say no one warned you, anon.

>>11893813
That shit never works. It's not just pitch and timbre that are different. Women simply talk differently. No software is gonna do that for you.

>>11895246
Why do people keep thinking it'll work for them when it's never worked for anyone else?

>>11893813

If you're a dude just be a dude, faking it will only backfire at best

Is the #VTuberUprising tag safe to use? The name kind of concerns me

>>11896739
It was relevant for a hot minute from like jan-feb but I wouldn't really say it see much use now
I know #vtuber and #envtuber usually see more use

Has anyone ever gotten into issues when using videogame music as background music?

>>11894555
>How successful is the average male vtuber compared to the average female one?
That's why.

How successful is the average (EN) voice changer chuuba compared to a male one?
That's why you shouldn't.

Either speak or give up. All these guys have done fine using their male voices, there's no reason you can't.

>>11894555
>How successful is the average male vtuber compared to the average female one?
about the same. you're only going out of your way to look for the booby models.

>>11896739
wasn't that the meme tag that sodapoppin tried to claim for himself when he jumped on the vtuber bandwagon for a week? i don't see anyone relevant to the western vtubing scene using that regularly, just a bunch of tag spamming indies.

>>11900471
>you're only going out of your way to look for the booby models.
While there's a lot of unsuccessful female vtubers this is just disingenuous. If you added up the viewers of every male vs female in the top 300, you'd absolutely find that success leans more towards female vtubers. Looking at who's live right now, that's from the top down to about 20 viewers.

>>11900825
>wasn't that the meme tag that sodapoppin tried to claim for himself when he jumped on the vtuber bandwagon for a week

It's Soda, you really think he cares about a bandwagon? He was shitting around for a few days with a model because he thought it'd be fun and got annoyed having the iPhone in his face all the time so he stopped. It was just a mascot character

>>11899352
>All of them are shit

>>11903725
So do better than them if you think they're all shit, should be easy, right?

>>11903725
>i don't like them so their success doesn't count

>>11902831

ran the numbers and currently of the top 300 (which is 18 viewers and up) Vtubers live, 32 are male. This isn't taking into account males using female models unless I already knew of them, but it is taking into account females using male models and there was only 1. Most of them are just dudes playing Apex, Minecraft, DBD, and other similar games.

>>11892093
What is yourself gonna do? Beat you up?

>>11899352
>Me2oon uses a default textured Vroid
This is proof that your model doesn't matter nearly as much as people think.

>>11904581
Has there ever been a good DBD stream

>>11909336
It doesn't matter, people are entertained by the streamer before the game. Unless you're pro or very high level player in whatever you're playing then the game is only really there as a something to talk about or react to. Tens of thousands of people watch shit like grass cutting or gas station simulator, it really isn't all about the game.

>>11909249
Plays basically only Genshin and Minecraft too, those darned debuff games no one wants to watch!

>>11911180
>It doesn't matter, people are entertained by the streamer before the game
Some games are still poison

Is there a way to mute certain portions of a YouTube video in their editor or does it have to be an external editor?

>>11911483
Yeah I just listed the usual suspects. Apex, Minecraft, DBD, and similar "debuff" games except they're all thriving with 100+ viewers. Game are only debuff or poison if you're not a good enough streamer to keep your audience entertained.

>>11903104
yeah, but desperate clout chasing vtweeters have been spamming that hashtag on twitter ever since then trying to chase that hypewagon. they don't realize that he's stopped caring and stopped using the hashtag, but vtweeters are all cloutchasers so they're still spamming the hashtag.

>>11903725
>>11911483
post your numbers if you think you know better.

>>11911772
that only works for copyrighted shit that gets flagged.

>>11915845
>yeah, but desperate clout chasing vtweeters have been spamming that hashtag on twitter ever since then trying to chase that hypewagon
The hashtag existed before sodapoppin and most people don't even know he used it. he was a vtuber for 3 days.

How important is it for one's voice to fit one's model's design?

>>11918018
short answer: it helps a bit
long answer: in the long run, it really does not matter at all. if your content is good, people will watch.

>>11918018
Medium answer: it depends

Joel/PorcelainMaid is a really loud, crude chatty dude in a sexy doll body and I think that works in his favor since it provides some built in comedy that pivots into having a big personality and "stage presence." I think Papi is similar where he's like a shitty mascot and it works well for his personality rather than just being guy.

I don't think it matters much overall BUT you should be aware of it so you have the ability to have fun with your voice.

>tfw have an upload speed of 1.92

>>11921034
local record, upload vods

>>11921103
what's that

>>11921169
record locally, vods go up

>>11921423
Do people watch vods?

>>11921630
Have you heard of pewdiepie?

>>11921767
You are right, i will make a Minecraft gameplay channel i bet i will become Pewdiepie in no time

>>11921842
Did you know letsplays have existed and have been popular for a very long time

>>11921842
The answer is "yes" people watch VODs. People also watch pre-recorded content. Vtubing isn't only streaming. There's no reason to not have a VOD channel, though.

>>11921866
I know, it was a joke. It's just not the same to streaming live. I will try making edited videos.

>>11921893
A lot of Randon's content plan is making short youtube content and it seems to be working out for him

Anyone have some on hand guides for setting up retro hardware streams. I'm not really sure how to handle me being able to hear the audio without the mic picking it up without delay.

>>11923867
just emulate it

>>11923879
yeah...

I got a newegg gift card but don't need any computer parts. Are there any quality of life items you have that help you stream you can recommend? I was thinking some plants maybe.

>>11924873
15 key stream deck

>>11924930
huh those aren't actually as expensive as i thought they were

You know, I can plan for months, do multiple kinds of reps to the point where I'm multitalented, make plots and schedules, and train my voice but I don't think I'd be satisfied if I didn't have a following already.
I truly believe my ideas are different, massive, worth watching, and brings something entirely new to the table. I'm already this far.
If I ever go through with my daydreams, how do I get over knowing I'd start from nothing?

>>11925925
I dunno man it takes time to build up a following unless you can bring it with you from somewhere else. No real way to shortcut that aside from if you somehow managed to get a corporate chuuba slot without being an indie first.

>>11925925
Don't blow your wad from the very beginning, build up a smaller audience and social network and then once you've got a decent amount of viewers and content out on other sites, then start with these revolutionary "new" ideas

It's important to note though that most people don't care about new ideas, unique streamers, etc unless you can get under the eyes of a normal viewer and not just a vtuber viewer. Seriously, look at the top 10, 20, even 30 vtubers. What are any of them doing that's unique or special that a vtuber with a tenth of their viewers isn't?

i got a new sub and 5 followers today. i only just reached 100 followers so its a feelsgoodman. i feel like streaming a variety of games has helped me a lot desu. it's expanded the amount of people that find me and tune in no matter what i'm playing because they enjoy the stream. twitch feels better than youtube in that regard imo

>>11927320
Congratulations anon

>>11923867
For console streams, I use a wireless audio transmitter. We happened to have a set floating around the house, so I'm not sure of the cost on mine, but there are cheap ones on Amazon. It's not ideal since I can't hear alerts, but it works well enough for me.
Emulating where you can is probably the way to go. But if you're looking for authenticity or to stream things you can't otherwise emulate, that's what's worked for me.

>>11921630
A few months ago there was a chuuba who was doing that and got a lot of eyes on her for doing so; I'd say it's worth a try

https://youtu.be/3bZYJymxs0U

>>11890900
why is people willing to pay almost 1k for some really bad drawn characters, then pay another 1k to have it rigged, no wonder why they only get 2views on twitch
whats the problem, why does this happen?

>>11930458
Yeah I was seeing if I could figure out an easy way to monitor both without lag, I guess it's possible but not easy

>>11925925
just give up, you won't make it. go find another hobby to procrastinate starting at and give up on that one too. rinse and repeat until you're dead and accept that.

>>11940828
NTA, what is making it exactly? Being able to live off it? What if you just want to play old sega and PC games while a couple people keep you company?

>>11940906
>what is making it exactly?
for that anon, it's just starting. there are thousands of anons like him. they just sit there and daydream about how cool it'd be to do something. learning a language, learning how to code, gonna write a book or play, whatever you want. they sit there and think about it for hours, days, weeks but never take the first step. they keep coming up with excuses for why they have to postpone and procrastinate.

the problem comes up when they do start and every single potential decision they make is hindered by those excuses. even the most meaningless choice is met with indecision. these anons are doomed for failure. this isn't about making an income or even a hobby, this is about the lack of drive to even get started.

>>11941019
They should unironically clean their room.

From what I understand, if you want to have very good facial tracking (like, I dunno, something Snuffy, racoon girl vtuber has), an Iphone is the only option.. right?

Hope how I worded that is right.

>>11941678
yes

>>11941678
Yes but you also need extremely good rigging

I've sent my Phase Connect Audition twice last week accidentally because I'd messed up, but haven't got a single view. I'm nervous it didn't go through.

>>11941809
You can email them to double check if they have gotten it.

>>11941697
>>11941733
I can figure out the rigging but... absolutely NO way to get past needing an iphone as the webcam? And if so, what's the absolute cheapest model that supports this?

also thanks anon

>>11942148
I'm having a hard time remembering who off the top of my head but there are some people who have shown their iphone tracking vs webcam tracking. It's mostly noticeable around the eyes and mouth but solid/clever rigging will always be more important.

I think the cheapest is a used iphone X? That's the first one that has the dot projection/lidar/depth tracking tech I believe.

>>11942148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZDxrS8sNhM

fofamit explains why iphones are separate. it's both a hardware and software issue. only the iphone has the IR dot matrix depth mapping technology while also making that API accessible by developers. android phones do not have it, consumer grade webcams don't have it.

iphone x is the cheapest model. you can get it used for just around $350

>>11942230
A busted up X is only around $100 so that's no so bad. Thanks anon.

If I can ask, is that more important for 2D or 3D avatars? The eye/mouth tracking. I expect it's more important for 3D and 2D not very important at all? This is a gift so I have to plan all this accordingly..

>>11942362
Yeah a used one isn't so bad, especially since it just needs to connect to wifi and have a functional camera and screen.

>>11893813
Hire a voice actress off twitter and say not to leak details of the project if it's post production. Trying to change a male voice will always produce uncanny valley effect in most people. Voice changers don't really work.

>>11941895
Are you sure that's alright? I don't want to bother them.

>>11893813
First off any voice filters are noticeable very obviously no matter how good they are and we're probably 10 years off from the technology for them to sound natural. You can do small amounts, EQing, etc but more than extremely slight pitch/gender adjustment to enhance what you already have is very noticeable.
You usually need literal years of voice training to voice pass unless you have crazy genetics RNG. Even then some people need extreme measures like vocal cord scraping surgery to be able to. A lot of transwomen voice train every single day and talk that way 100% of the time and still don't completely voice pass. The only thing harder to do than a believable female voice is a shota voice. You need to either spend a lot of time and effort for it to sound natural.

You can do a cartoon female voice with simple voice acting reps. But you'll sound like Linda from Bob's Burgers. It works within the character but it doesn't sound natural.
>>11896669
Delusional and no self awareness.

>>11925925
You aren't entitled to an immediate fanbase, anon. That's not how this works.

>>11927320
Great job anon, that's cool.

If I start vtubing, do I really have to network with twitter? Can anyone in the thread attest to any added exposure they've gotten from it?

>>11943721
You should network with other chuubas and people like artists, clippers, etc, it's difficult or bad form to network through other people's discords. Not many other options.

>>11942746
A Linda from Bob's Burgers style babi chuuba would be fucking great.

>>11943721
if not twitter, what were you planning on using to network with?

>>11942746
>>11942515
Thanks, that was plan A, guess I should have expected it wouldn't that easy.
Plan B is gluing together a voice recognition software and a speech synthesis one, anyone got okay-ish success with that?

>>11944819
>Plan B is gluing together a voice recognition software and a speech synthesis one, anyone got okay-ish success with that?
you keep bringing this up every thread hoping that technology has advanced sufficiently in the last 20 hours to make this suddenly viable. it's impossible and cannot be done. you'll just sound like a generic TTS chuuba and be accused of stealing Zen's gimmick. please fuck off and neck yourself.

>>11944164
>>11944809
I'm not touching discord with a ten foot pole unless I absolutely have to. I have an account but only at the behest of my IRL friends, which is kinda weird since we already have each other's phone numbers and steam accounts.
But I digress. I hesitate to use twitter because I used to spend loads of time on there and I'm just kinda afraid of getting sucked back into it, I guess. I'll just try to practice some of that self-control I've heard so much about this go around

>>11944819
It's notoriously difficult to get a vocaloid or synthesized voice to sound natural in english even with hours of manual fine tuning of syllables. Like I said before the technology isn't even near available let alone in a commercial setting.

Your REAL tangible actionable options are

1. just use your actual voice
2. filter people with an obviously fake one

There's no way to get around doing one of these two unless you want to just be mute like Corpse.

>>11944976
I guess it depends how much you care about growth and what your plan is. If you just want to stream for fun you actually don't need any social media or anything like that at all.

>>11944976
i didn't ask what you're not using. i asked what you were planning on using to network.

>>11945203
I didn't have another alternative in mind; I was mostly wondering if twitter really is the best option for it or not.
>>11945184
I'd like to make a little bit of money doing it, so I guess that means I'll probably have to use social media of some sort. I have no delusions about probably never making money off of it, though

>>11945563
>I was mostly wondering if twitter really is the best option for it or not.
it is. unless you want to use tiktok, but knowing what you just said about discord and twitter, i can guess you're gonna sperg out about zoomers or something based off zero knowledge of how tiktok works and refuse to use it out of some misplaced principles or whatever the fuck despite multiple chuubas exploding in popularity specifically due to tiktok.

>>11945661
>i can guess you're gonna sperg out about zoomers or something based off zero knowledge of how tiktok works and refuse to use it out of some misplaced principles or whatever the fuck
It sounds like you thought a little harder about this than I did man. You sound insecure.

>>11945563
What are your actual goals? Do you have a plan? If this is just something you want to try you should spend about 95% less time thinking how you're supposed to do it "correctly" or whatever you have going on in your head and actually do things.

>>11945807
dozens of /asp/ies have come through whining and bitching about tiktok despite it being the number one platform for growth right now.

>>11945807
But that aside, since I've never used tiktok before and don't interact with anyone else that does I didn't really consider how valuable it would be. Thanks for the advice.

>>11945915
Alight, loud and clear. I had only just begun to consider pursuing this hobby, saw there was a thread for aspiring vtubers and figured it would be a good place to ask some questions about social media usage wrt vtubing.

>>11945999
I wouldn't bother with social media at all until you're streaming regularly

>>11946043
That was what I was thinking. I guess I was asking some pipe-dreamy questions.

>>11942705
I did so, they took a while to reply though but I have been interviewed.

>>11944819
Stop trying to make fake voice editing work, just give up. Stop. No one else can do it and there's people a lot smarter than you out there. You can't do it, you'll filter people and waste your time. You need to realize when something is a waste of time and just stream like everyone else

>>11944819
this line of thinking already is ngmi tier thinking
just use your actual voice

>>11911180
>Minecraft
>debuff game

>>11952871
It is if you don't want children in your stream

Anyone has the past application questions for Nijisanji EN, both for females and males? All of them, I'm honestly just curious about them.

>>11952871
According to /wvt/ any game they don't like is a debuff game, Minecraft include.d
>>11952943
You realize plenty of adults like the game, right? Most of my viewers are adults and enjoyed my MC streams, some people just like the game because it's "comfy" or relaxing, or just plain appealing to the omega-autistic in the case of some of the bigger tech/quest modpacs

Does this model look fine?

>>11953532
You do realize most of the people in your minecraft stream aren't adults right?

>>11953607
The horns look a little off to me. I thought they were dog ears at first. They just need a little more definition I think.

>>11953607
>>11953765
Other than that it looks fine and cute to me.

>>11953725
You're acting like I hop up 100 zoomer-viewers playing Minecraft. At best I go up a few, but I know my viewers and a majority (aside from two who I know aren't) are adults. Most of the people in the few Minecraft streams I do are adults. I know you think you know what you're talking about but you don't, your audience isn't just magically replaced when you turn on Minecraft

>>11953607
Like the other anon said, the horns are kinda off, also I haven't seen the model in motion but the sideburns(?) kinda look like they're attached to the face. Maybe consider putting some physics on them if you haven't already. Looks good otherwise!

>>11953893
Sure

>>11953607
Looks really cute but yeah the horns need work

>>11954068
>sure
anyone who believes their audience is magically replaced with 13 year olds just because minecraft is turned on probably shouldn't be here giving advice, or should think about taking it for once.

>>11954126
Okay anonymous

Should I be using OBS Studio, or are there better alternatives?

>>11955202
OBS studio is probably the best thing longterm

>>11955202
OBS Ninja is an alternative but not a strict upgrade

>>11953607
Echoing what other anons said I think the horns are the only thing looking off to me. Idk how to describe "beef them up" but this is what I mean

Horns are tough and your base shape is good just needs more volume

Cute design tho

>>11953765
>>11953968
>>11954071
Thanks for the feedback! I tried replacing the texture and making them a bit sharper to see if they look a bit better. I also added gravity to the sideburns
>>11955506
The visual cues helped a lot! I think I'd have to redo the horns to make them thicker since I'm using Vroid but hopefully this much helps them not look off?

>>11956407
Looking better! Yeah, I imagine it's tough to make horns like that just using the hair tool

>>11955451
How is OBS Ninja an alternative? All it does is let you put other sharing sources into OBS

I'm on this "gamergate block list" on twitter, despite having never tweeted those words, anything related to it or anything controversial really. Not sure how or why. I don't follow controversial people even, infact most ppl I follow are probably liberal.

To network, do I need to make a brand new twitter? My old one has always been anonymous, used since 2009 and has some friends on there and is associated with my online persona. Would the GG thing just kill my account?

>>11957393
You should make a new one anyway. Why wouldn't you?

>>11957393
>Would the GG thing just kill my account?
No, because the type of people who use it would never watch you anyway. The thing you need to realize about these Twitter snowflakes is that as much as they will try to cancel people or ignore them, it doesn't matter because odds are they were never the target audience to begin with. Look at what happened to Bungo Taiga, all the people trying to "cancel" him weren't viewers anyway, so what difference does it make if 500 people block you if they were never going to watch you in general since you aren't shilling LGBT rhetoric. Unless you are, in which case yeah get a new Twitter.

>>11957514
reason being I have a community I already interact with regularly, alot of followers, I've just never streamed and want to do this for fun. But I guess the norm is to make a new account, which makes sense.
>>11957592
Noted.. Yeah I wouldn't give a shit if some weird creeps block me. I really don't, but I just worry that it could be forced to the forefront somehow. However hearing you I think it's actually obvious it wouldn't be a thing.

Still, I get surprised when randomly I'm blocked on twitter by someone I've never heard of.

>>11957592
not him but why were people trying to cancel Taiga?

>>11957940
He's an asshole who talked shit non-stop about different chuubas he was supposedly friends with and never apologized to them and in some cases blocked people who came forward, on top of that he's into some weird shota diaper porn and made some distasteful CP jokes. Supposedly he's done worse but that stuff has no proof.

Do you think it's a bad idea to transition into vtubing when I already have a pretty decent audience as a regular streamer? I've been toying with the idea for a while but I'm not sure if it would alienate my current viewers... Kind of hesitant to even bring it up on stream right now as a result, though I do think being a vtuber would be fun.

>>11958428
That’s really between you and your chat, I’d talk to them about it. I know of at least a few people who went from facecam to model and I don’t think any of them lost viewers. It probably won’t be too offputting to people unless your model is something really out there.

>>11958428
Most people who have done it seriously have succeeded because ultimately the VTuber audience is a lot easier to advertise to since it's still something of a niche. You can upload the same video as a normal streamer and one as a VTuber and probably get more traction with a VTuber model

So i just opened up a twitter for my vtuber account, what the fuck do I even tweet?

>>11961067
a

>>11921034
Do prerecorded content a la Kizuna Ai, is it harder? Yes, but it can work, and we are really short of prerecorded content chuubas

>>11961310
Isn't Ai's sticking to that format often cited as one of the main reasons for her downfall?

>>11961516
Keyword: Sticking, it's to get you started while you get better internet, or to do anything chuuba at all if streaming is not an option

Is it a bad idea to try to become a vtuber if I've got a lot of online baggage associated with my name including nudes floating around? Obviously I'd try to keep my vtuber persona insulated from all that but you never know when someone might recognize your voice or if I'd slip up somehow and it would come up..

>>11962293
Theres vtubers out there with nudes and stuff. Honestly theres too many psychos in this fanbase for it not to surface if you make it big enough. If thats something you can live with then give it a try

>>11962293
Be prepared for someone to recognize it eventually and if it does happen, spin it in a "woe is me" and "you should never do this to someone!" preachy BS to get sympathy views

ive been trying to debut for the past 3 months but i just don't have the courage to, maybe the whole vtuber thing just isnt for me and i'd rather be here to support my friemds, but i also really want to stream and play games w friembs,,,,

>>11964033
I don't think you really need to debut, just stream

Would a teaching to draw comics be a good stream idea? Or should I go with the standard fanart stream that other artist vtubers do?

what's the best way to stream games like super mario 64/super mario sunshine? are they even good games to stream? i've got a copy of super mario allstars on the switch, but i'm not really sure how to go about doing the whole capture card business as it looks really convoluted and confusing. my pc only has 2 hdmi ports and i have 2 monitors so i haven no clue how i'd be able to use a capture card without unplugging once of my monitors

>>11964966
why not use an emulator?

>>11964966
I don't know what card you're planning to get but for the Elgato HD60 at least, all you have to do for the Switch is plug its HDMI cable into the capture card, then plug the HD60's USB cable into your computer and then add the source to OBS. It also has a passthrough thing where you plug another HDMI cable into it and into a monitor, otherwise you'll have to play through OBS with a slight delay.

>>11962293
Just ignore it, someone saying you have the same voice is the least convincing possible doxx there is.

how do I get the 4chan audience without actually posting myself here? I fucking hate my audience, they are trannies and children, I don’t know why. I just want actually cool people not retards.

>>11965400
>i just want cool people not retards
>i want the 4chan audience
make up your mind

>>11964966
If you're worried about it being convoluted just emulate it.
>>11965400
>wanting the 4chan audience
The "4chan audience" is largely underage or boomer tourists. Just play games zoomers like with tons of extremely loud sound alerts or something.

>>11965400
there’s no such thing as a good audience. that’s the hard truth. my viewers dont get half my jokes and act like I am being serious when I’m being obviously sarcastic. they just want a clippable moment or they want me to say hi honey etc you just have to learn to live with it

Any tips for audition video?

>>11965916
send them your nudes that you have floating around out there

>>11965887
Sarcastic humor is kind of shitty and doesn't translate easily anyway especially on the internet.

>>11964536
would you watch someone making that kind of content?

>>11965252
not sure if my pc can handle it with facetracking + streaming. though i'm also unsure if emulating/using a capture card is of the same "intensity" on a pc, so to speak
i'm kind of illiterate when it comes to computers themselves kek
>>11965289
that's the one i was looking at, i might have to watch a youtube video to actually understand what kind of set up i'd be looking at if i bought one
>>11965400
if you want people from 4chan to watch you, you're either going to have to get "lucky" or selfpost. by lucky i mean, having someone who actively posts here find your stream, like you, and like your stream enough to post it in a thread. but i think it's a bit selfish to nitpick your audience, some people are streaming for hours on end to themselves and commanderroot.

>>11966462
it works well for some like gura and kronii, since I started watching kronii more I admittedly started mirroring her humor and stuff. I enjoy it too but oh well you’re probably right, it doesn’t land for me when I do it.

>>11966862
are you either of them?

>>11966862
Name 1 time Gura was actually funny on purpose

>>11966652
Depending on the system emulation will probably be harder on your PC than using a capture card but you might also wanna make sure your PC meets the requirements for the card as well

>>11927320
Congrats anon!

>>11936596
I feel that after years of undervaluing art, a lot of people did a hard swing and started overvaluing art

>>11966462
Most top streamers use use it, works fine. It's part of why they're so popular people love that kind of humor. Go watch more than vtubers and you'll see that.

>>11968979
Any recommendations? The couple popular ones I watch don't.

>>11968975
The "overvaluing" comes from the fact most people doing Live2D art/Rigging are doing it commercially. It'd be different if there was zero profit involved on the customer's side, but typically "real" creators not doing shit off of just rando commissions will either charge a much larger feeto account for that, or charge a royalties which is less common from what I've seen.

This isn't new, people getting into vtubing just weren't used to it because the majority of them never were interested in using art for profit before the Vtuber boom.

>>11968975
Most artists are still undervaluing their art. I think the fact that so many of them are constantly booked shows that.

>>11969026
Go to "just chatting" and sort by highest viewers on a weekday afternoon avoiding the egirls. Ludwig, Esfand, Mizkif, to a degree Hasan, , Cyr, DisguistedToast, and other LSF Mainstays are always using that type of sarcastic humor with their audiences

>>11969173
This makes me wonder why auctions for commisions aren't more common

>>11969291
Messy and chargebacks are already a big problem without people thinking they accidentally overpaid

>>11968975
i agree. i saw someone charging 1600 euro for a fucking character sheet. and the art was......not bad, but not NEARLY high enough quality to warrant such an absurd pricetag. for that much for a character sheet, i'd actually commission someone who specializes in character design, not some random twitter retard who thinks their genshin impact fanart suddenly makes their character sheets worth nearly $2k.

>>11966462
When people say that they mean over text, autismchama

>>11969676
If you think sarcasm easily translates over an anime avatar too you're probably even more autistic.

>>11969788
Most of sarcasm is in your voice and how you say it, you can do it with no webcam and it'd still be translated just fine. Youtubers have been doing it for over a decade.

>>11969788
eh, no? how would sarcasm not come across through someone's voice alone

>>11969788
if you think sarcasm isn't present in the vocal tones you're definitely autistic

>>11964536
Could be interesting, not too outlandish to alienate yet original enough to be fresh
>>11964033
Don't debut, just do a stream playing a game you enjoy, you'll feel better once you do it

>>11965400
Look at other /here/ chuubas and imitate them with your own spin on it

>>11969096
Eh, i'm used to spic prices even on my commercial ventures, so i may be a little biased
>>11969509
Many such cases

I'm the guy who asked if starting without even a PNG would be a good idea a few threads ago, ended up doing so and it was fun. Looking forward to getting a PNG or model so i can self post without being offtopic

Would it be fine if someone asked for feedback on his past/current-ish streams in the /esp/ discord if said streams have that person's actual irl face?
Actually asking for a friend because I don't use Discord.

Anybody got any tutorials on audio mixing for songs? I can find some level zero stuff on YouTube but I want to get actually good at it.

>>11971776
>if said streams have that person's actual irl face?
please don't be a fucking retard

>>11971956
I just wanted to make sure if it was fine. He does want to become a vtuber but his streaming abilities aren't really up there yet.
Should he start asking for feedback only once he has started making streams with a model?

>>11972256
doxxing someone else is against board rule, don't be a fucking retard

>>11972290
>doxxing
I'm not posting his streams here.
Read again, I wrote /esp/ not /asp/.

>>11972445
oh in that case go be a fucking retard where else you want. i'm not your dad.

>>11972468
>ure..... le retard
Someone else please respond.

>>11972554
you're gonna get the same fucking response, faggot. you're asking if it's okay to dox your """"friend"""" and his stream with his irl face on it. the fuck do you expect?

>>11972605
Where am I going to >"doxx" him if I said I'm not going to post it here and that I don't use Discord?
Hell, why would I ask for permission to doxx someone? Are you okay?

>>11972855
>Are you okay?
says the retard who is looking to post irl face pics of his ""friend"" jesus christ are all your aspies this fucking bad at common sense?

>>11944819
I will say, I have heard of some semi high testosterone men mastering a pretty convincing girl voice without any technology. It has way less to do with pitch than people think. It would take a lot of practice, but that could be something to look into.
Though, if there are trannies that don't make it work, you'd probably have to be pretty deturmined or gifted to make it work yourself.

>>11971776
Why are you asking this here?

>>11971776
I’m confused what you’re asking here. Don’t post facecam stuff of your friends without their permission, if that’s what you’re asking. If your friend does want to become a Vtuber and is fine with you posting those videos in /esp/ for feedback, ask in /esp/ directly if they’re cool with that. I’d imagine they will be.

might do a vocaroo reading of this post, will some anons give me feedback on my voice?

>>11973625
don't do a reading. it's easy to read a script. you won't be reading a script for most of your streams. impromptu something for at least a minute. pick something generic like food you like and why you like it.

>>11973657
ooo thanks anon, i was gonna talk about food but got sidetracked from the moment i opened my mouth kek https://voca.ro/12pFes3gwTjg
i think i need to work on enunciating and probably slowing down but my brain/thoughts are too fast for me to keep up with and i just speak very quickly mostly without thinking about it at all

>>11974000
slow down and take deeper breaths. you talk a little too fast. otherwise it sounds fine.

>>11973556
This place is my only link to the /esp/ Discord.

>>11973585
I was just hoping to find someone from the discord here to see if that was fine with them since I have no way to connect with them atm and I have no idea if he actually remembered to ask them. I've been telling him to get in contact with them for like two weeks but he always forgets.

>"maybe he just doesn't care that much"
I really hope that's not the case.

Though I'm thinking of just telling him that they told me ITT that they only review streams with models to get him to start streaming with any model.

>>11974090
thanks anon, i'll work on slowing down a bit. it's pretty hard lol
also was curious if the crackling sounds were very obvious/annoying. i have a blue yeti and i never notice these sounds in my streams but on vocaroo it's pretty obvious theres some sort of crackling sound every so often

>>11974229
>This place is my only link to the /esp/ Discord.
I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish here. You're asking, on behalf of your friend, if your friend can post something to a Discord server that he is a part of, but you're not, to see if he can post something to that Discord server, but you're doing it on this thread?

>>11974318
It's only obvious when you call attention to it. I didn't notice anything.

>>11973625
no, but I will read this insane shitpost myself and post it here: https://voca.ro/1fbOTKVal6Og

>>11974402
>You're asking, on behalf of your friend, if your friend can post something to a Discord server that he is a part of, but you're not, to see if he can post something to that Discord server, but you're doing it on this thread?
Yes.

>>11971885
Just gonna re-up this question since I feel like it kinda got lost in the shuffle here.

I'm a m*le that kind of thinks of streaming, but.. I'm not sure what target audience I should target. I was surprised when I saw that kuzuha was the top vtuber, but I think thats only in the japanese market and will never happen in the west.

>>11974925
What stream do you want to watch?

>>11974937
Comfy vibes streams. Zatsudan. But I don't think I'll be good at zatsudan myself, I don't have many stories to tell.

>>11974925
Not at the top of all vtubers by any means but they're still doing great

>>11899352

I'll be honest, one of my goals is to get a sponsorship from some weird company. Not for money as much as being able to say I'm sponsored byMorningStar Farms® Veggie Chik'n Nuggets or something

>>11976200
Top Twitch streamers only recently started getting these types of sponsorships so you've got a long ways to go.

>>11976228
Yeah I don't expect it anytime soon but it's fun to think about getting one instead of mobile games or VPNs or whatever which is honestly very easy to get one of those referral sponsorships for

>>11976200
your first sponsor will be raid shadow legends and then you won't see any till you get partnered on twitch

>>11974578
kek that was good anon

>>11976296
I don't really care about money and I'm fortunate I have low cost of living so I'm not planning on taking any unless I think it's fun/ny

>>11974402
>It's only obvious when you call attention to it. I didn't notice anything.
phew thank goodness, i really did not want to have to get a new mic. i had to wrap a hairtie around the cord/mic arm to make the cord stay in but hey, it works and the only problem with it is hardly noticeable (the crackling)

>>11925925
>Do multiple kinda of reps so I'm multitalented
I feel like that's a lot easier said than done

>>11941019
Nta, but I feel really called out by this oost and I'm glad I was, because this is my problem, and has been for about 4 years. Is there anything I could do, or is the best advice to just get off my ass, stop playing vidya, and just sit down to do the shit I wanna do?

>>11977730
nta but you don't have to stop playing games. you can literally stream yourself playing games. if you're a 2view with no viewers, at least you'll have a sense of accomplishment from having done SOMETHING rather than pondered about it and not done anything at all.
t. someone who did the same shit

>>11978732
So what's the rules for selfposting here/wvt?

>>11981652
self post here if you want to get help with your stream / chuuba design etc, in /wvt/ if you wanna advertise your stream but don't be obnoxious about it

>>11981652
Drop your links here for feedback, drop them in /wvt/ before going live. If you aren't already lurking, lurk for a while so you get an idea of what a normal go live post looks like.

>>11892093
Remember, the worst yourself can say is "no"

>>11976615
Ty ^^

>>11974813
I think prodanon posted his pastebin with resources for that in one of /vt/ sings thread. It might be helpful I guess. I think it was in the last to hit bump limit.

>>11988359
Thanks, I’ll take a look

bump

>>11978732
Well, I was saying it in general, because there's shit like art I'd like to do, but I think I play too much videogames, plus I always procrastinate just fucking drawing a chibi.

>>11974000
Like the other anon said, you talk a bit too fast but it's fine otherwise, you'd make a great cunnychuuba

>>11974578
kek

>>11995533
give it to me straight anon: do I have the voice to rake in that fujo money I so desperately crave

>>11996181
I feel that you could even do BFE if you wanted, go ahead anon, make it

>>11974000
you sound like my jewish friend.

>>11996288
ok nice. thanks for the words of encouragement anon!

>>11997682
No problem, looking forward to see you make it!

How important is a consistent game or category?

So far I’ve been playing a variety of horror games and some Apex as filler.

Would it be worth it to just focus on a single game like Apex or continue with variety to grow?

2 view male btw

So I’m setting a discord up for my channel. What should I have in it? Anything I should avoid?

>>12000055
it can help to have a core type of content you focus on regularly to build up a steady community around it. being too much of a variety streamer is difficult since you need to carry every stream just by your personality.

>>12000121
anti alt account bots, anti spam bots, prevent new joiners from using the @everyone and @here pings the usual.

>>11996181
>>11996288
BFE is more than just voice, it's personality and I guess partially "acting" for lack of a better term. You can't train that the same way you do a voice. Go watch some BFE streamers and see what you're missing.

>>12000395
nta can you recommend some BFE streamers to study?

>>12000395
nta, but we can't really judge acting skill from a <2 minutes shitpost

>>12000623
it's obvious the anon doesn't actually give a shit about BFE, is bored and just looking to shitpost a vocaroo.

>>12000677
I suggested him BFE because i forgot how much the acting part mattered, but his original question was about fujo pandering

>>12000734
>his original question was about fujo pandering
it's an /asp/ ritual shitpost. no one genuinely believes fujo pandering is possible.

>>12000677
>>12001347
Jeez man. I was kinda joking about wanting fujo orbiters but I did genuinely want some feedback on my speaking voice even though I was reading a shitpost. I thought it was funny and thought somebody else might too.

I'm not really closed off to the idea of BFE but I don't know the first thing about it. Got any tips for me or streamers I should study? I plan to mostly just stream games if that changes anything.

>>12001565
BFE doesn't work in the west. just drop it.

>>12001825
Fair enough. See ya later

would you guys find it useful if i made a guide on how to appeal to fujos? I've been part of the scene for a very long time and i know very well what's popular and stuff like that, it would be like a PDF stating some things to avoid and most popular tropes and things like that

>>12001987
Of course

I fixed my shock mount I just drilled a larger hole and it fit my new boom arm fine and didn't need an adapter.

>>12001565
not those anons but am fem who watches male streamers
BFE not necessary your voice is good enough as long as you dont yell about hating women you'll be fine
If you're still curious i think the nijiKR males do BFE decent esp Chiho tho like other ppl stated, not actually popular in the west

>>12002030
sweet! then expect it later this week lol

>12002568
and they never posted a follow up ever again.

if any /asp/ies here actually reading, don't get your hopes up. i remember a few months ago an anon promised to post some community building guide and never did. kept talking about it. just 2 more weeks bro, trust the plan, just 2 more weeks.

>>12001825
>BFE doesn't work in the west
For you, maybe. This isn't even all the successful ones, just the ones with 100+ viewers

>>12003205
>voice actors can voice act
wow

>>12002763
Don't worry, I'm autistic and unemployed so i got nothing better to do + i want more yaoi chubas

>>12003392
And all of them are amateurs at best, it's not like I included CyYu or Taka. So are they successful BFEs or not?

>>12003454
none of them do BFE, they're just variety streamers who happen to do BFE voice lines now and then.

>>12003478
>they're just variety streamers who happen to do BFE voice lines now and then

So....they're BFE streamers? Thanks for the clarification

>>12003524
if saying one BFE line a month is enough to quality, literally everyone is a BFE streamer

>>12003556
>one BFE line a month
You don't and have never watched any of them, why pretend to know their content? Lying to try and help your case is just disingenuous and BFE is more than just saying lines for 3 hours and turning off stream. That's like saying there's no GFE streamers because they play videogames.

>>12003625
holy fucking cope

Someone in this thread sounds a little bitter

>>12003654
Looks like you ran out of excuses. Maybe you can learn a few things from watching them and practicing some voice reps instead of trying to re-imagine what BFE/GFE is.

>>12003704
just keep talking like that, maybe they'll notice you white knighting them here and shout you out on their streams

>>12003761
Still no reasoning as to why they aren't BFE aside from the false claim they drop a line once a month. If you're going to refute a claim you need something to back it up.

Let me know when GFE starts being viable for vtubers too since by your logic it clearly isn't since they all play videogames.

>>12002331
I don't think misogynistic outbursts will be a problem for me, thankfully. Thank you!

>>12002568
Alright, looking forward to it!

Is there a way to block someone from raiding you? There's one person who keeps raiding me and they never have any viewers. It's always just them raiding with 1 viewer that I'm assuming is themselves. Or maybe a way to prevent Streamlabs from alerting when it's just a one person raid?

>>12006635
>Is there a way to block someone from raiding you? There's one person who keeps raiding me and they never have any viewers. It's always just them raiding with 1 viewer that I'm assuming is themselves. Or maybe a way to prevent Streamlabs from alerting when it's just a one person raid?
kek

>>11890900
mfw my advertising is so bad that male vtubers have more twitter and twitch followers than me

>>11996181
make sure ur model looks generally manly, but yeah u could do bfe

>>11969291
I think it would be a fuckfest

If you are looking for feedback or shilling, or basically you are a spic but your english is not that good yet feel free to join /esp/ies

temporal link:
https://discord.gg/7gFc5vea

>>11996381
kek idk how to take this
>>11994724
>spoiler
i'd like to avoid the cunny trope desu cause it seems overdone and i don't want to act like a child but my voice is rather..idk not mature lets say lol

What's the best way to handle large games like RPGs and stuff where there's a lot of dialogue but no voice? Would you guys read out all of the words, or just play like normal?

>>12014038
>kek idk how to take this
I think my jewish friend is cute but I don't know how to approach her as a non-jew. She sometimes can be scary when she's mad though.

Let's just say I think your voice would go good along a tummy rub.

>>12014221
If you're playing an older RPG with no VA, it's an opportunity to do fun character voices and hopefully keep viewers engaged with fun voice acting.

>>12014221
whichever is most comfortable for you. reading it all out is pretty common for most chuubas. if you can't act and it's not that serious just ham up your voice acting and make it fun for you and your viewers.

>>12014038
>overdone
What? You sure? I struggle to find new cute and funny chuubas a lot.

i got some assets coming on very soon which i'm pretty excited for. gonna do png into giftubing once all that's done and ready, should hopefully be starting up either end of october or first week of november.

>>12014580
Good luck, anon! Be sure to drop your links!

>>12014283
you might be thinking about it too much. do jewish people that aren't like, 60+, really care about people being jewish too? i guess i wouldn't know i've not met very many jewish people but still kek
>tummy rub
hell yea based
>>12014486
yea idk i just don't like attempting to portray a child i guess, i'd rather just be myself with my weird voice and not try to larp as a kid kek
like, you can be cute and funny and have the voice but not be a cunny vtuber, and i'd rather go for that than try and act like i'm a kid
and i do feel like i've seen quite "loli" type vtubers. something about it is just cringe to me to state, yeah i'm a loli vtuber aha! (despite being 20+ and clearly forcing their voice to sound childish/high pitched) idk

>>12016122
I have no idea her parents are very religious so I am assuming. Also I'm a girl too so it's double the bad time.
>hell yea based
kek I love you anon

>>12016122
the LARP stuff is pretty filtering for most people anyway, I'd just get something that suits your voice (loli or otherwise) and just stream. Most of the time the RP stuff just comes off as cringe unless you're really good at it and most people aren't.

>>11974578

>>11971776
I'm gonna take a screencap and ask, hold on

>>12015103
i will. the last thing i'm sorting out is mainly how i'm going to be presenting myself. i might honestly just be thinking too hard on it when i can just be friendly and talk about the game i'm playing or misc topic i can get really passionate about honestly.

Thinking about making a avatar based off of the fat ugly bastard archetype. I'm not very familiar with Vtubing, has anyone done this yet? I do 3D and 2D art, so I don't think I will have any issue creating the art or rig, but I'm not sure what I should stream yet maybe working on art or animation, but I might just play 7 days to die, Civ 6 and other games I like. I think it would be funny to see a fat ugly bastard avatar instead of a pretty anime boy or girl, like every else does but I do worry that it would alienate some viewers. I suppose it will come down to if people find me entertaining or not, more so than anything but what do you all think? Should I go with this or just make something normal?

Thoughts on the model? It's already rigged and paid for but I thought I'd ask.

>>11899352
I don't like seeing shxtou on this list. I don't watch the rest so I'm not sure about them, but shxtou already had a large audience before his debut. Putting him as an example of "hey this guy can become a vtuber you can too!" is just giving false hope.

>>12022845
>has anyone done this yet
Yes. There was someone a few months ago.

>>12022845
https://twitter.com/UglyProject
Google is your best friend. Although it won't be revolutionary, there's still potential to stand out if you have actual entertainment value.

>>12023118
Gives comfy dad vibes, is that what you were going for?

>>12023387
Yeah thanks. Kind of a woodsman meets King of the Hill.

>>12022845
There's Project Ugly Bastard but he absolutely does not have the voice or personality for the character but since he was probably the first notable english speaking one he pulled in a lot of twitter followers
>>12023118
the world needs more dadtubers please give me your best hank hill impression

>>12023442
Post Vocaroo saying "Hank Hill propane and propane accessories"

>>12023621
fuck, forgot to add please

>>12023266
>>12023290
>>12023492
kek, damn I was a bit late. Well he seems to be doing pretty well. I don't know if I want to do something that is almost a exact copy though. Guess I might go with another theme.
>There's Project Ugly Bastard but he absolutely does not have the voice or personality for the character but since he was probably the first notable english speaking one he pulled in a lot of twitter followers
I'm not sure my voice is a good fit either, although I think mine's a bit deeper than his. Also do you mean he was one of the first english speaking Vtubers altogether or the first ugly one? Or do you mean english accent?

>>12023621
Not Texan so I would need to work on the accent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB7SLfMQfNI

>>12023906
Ugly bastard should not be deep. He should be squeaky and cackly.

>>12023906
he had a very strange accent and was very soft spoken which did not really fit the avatar
and yeah i meant that he was one of the first ugly bastard vtubers

>>12023621
Wrong link.
https://files.catbox.moe/wyqhez.m4a

>>12024136
>>12024231
>he had a very strange accent and was very soft spoken which did not really fit the avatar
>and yeah i meant that he was one of the first ugly bastard vtubers
Unfortunately, I am very softspoken as well , but I'm american with a some what thick southern accent. Are there other ugly bastard Vtubers? Maybe I should do hillbilly theme or something, since I have a southern accent.

>>12024294
Not bad, i'd say you could make it

While we're on the subject of models, I'd like to share my idea for my own. I mostly plan to stream retro games and have dabbled a little with modeling in Crocotile 3D. I'm planning to make my avatar look like a model that would be in a 32-bit 3D game, like something from the PS1, N64 or Saturn. Do you guys happen to know of any vtubers doing anything similar right now? I'm pretty confident in my design but I'd like to see if anyone else has done something like it already.

>>12025389
https://twitter.com/kaniegg
Maybe him?

>>12025723
ah cool, thanks for sharing. I forgot about this guy

>>12006635
You can set minimums in Streamlabs. Not dynamic ones, but you could put it as 3 or so, and just ignore them.

>>12025389
https://twitter.com/PolyAlphanet recently debuted

bom

People keep on talking negatively about me and assuming things based on the shitposts I make. I want to privatize my social media because schizos keep on stalking me, but I know that's not a good move to make for growth. I don't know how to get these people to just leave me alone.

>>12031950
block and ignore them. continue ignoring them. they dont matter. they were never going to watch you and you shouldn't pay them any mind.

>>12031950
Stop shitposting or deal with the consequences of your actions or stop caring

>>12032061
Yeah I try to tell myself that, but I've always tended to be critical of any criticism of me. Also, I don't know who any of the people posting negatively about me are or else they would have been blocked already.
>>12032088
It’s just annoying that I can’t post anything to my own page without people trying to find something to jump on. But yeah, I’ll try to just ignore it.

Posting is at best a double-edged sword and at worst a curse

>>12032159
>Also, I don't know who any of the people posting negatively about me are or else they would have been blocked already.
then how do you know it's happening

>>12032374
Happens on another site.

How do you all deal with stupid chat members?

I was raided by a friend last night, and then around an hour later, someone who's been around before posted "woah, this isn't where I thought I was, how'd I get here?"

This is just attention seeking, right? There's no way chat are that stupid, they just want me to say their name?

>>12032605
it is your privilege to answer that however you want just as it's their privilege to say it
not answering is also an answer btw

My png is done. Yes, m*le. I'll enjoy not making it.

>>11927320
i'm this anon
>tfw streaming game on twitch to about 6 viewers
>its not an unpopular or obscure game
>a wr holder speedrunner of the game stays in the chat til i finish streaming several hours later and gives me helpful tips and follows and subs
feelsgoodman, i've almost reached 120 followers already...very exciting eeek especially with just a vroid so far
overall today i gained 7 followers and 2 subs today, it's not much in the grand scheme of things but i feel very happy/excited/grateful