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Previous Thread >>11864942

>> No.11879290

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>> No.11879532
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PPT got her 10k, just 'cause some anon complained last thread

>> No.11879580

Random question, how was HoloARK numbers back then?

t.clipfag

>> No.11879673

Post the top winners. Hal won today with 43k I think. Last time I saw Kuzuha, he got 37k, I doubt he'd pass Hal's numbers.

>> No.11879703

>>11879580
Hal 45K Kuzuha 43K

>> No.11879739

>>11879703
Wrong reply, >>11879673

>> No.11879746

>>11879580
It boosted low performers and debuffed high performers.
25k -> 20k
15k -> 15k
10k -> 12k
5k -> 10k
1k -> 6k

>> No.11879776

>>11879580
Pretty good looking at Holostats. Coco pulled 10-15k+ on many streams with it. Of course, then it fizzled out...

>> No.11879804

Is it time for Hololive to consider creating a Twitch-exclusive branch?

>> No.11879809

>>11879673
nah wait a little longer, kanata and flare are on their literal peaks right now

>> No.11879810

>>11879703
Nijisanji denied a win by Hal (who is now...no longer an indie)

>> No.11879811

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG9kgkKqqq4
Nene's gorilla unarchived utawaku. I think it's been a while since the last time any HoloJP did unarchived utawaku.

>> No.11879828

>>11879580
Numbers wise? pretty sure they're all lost since ARK got privated hard.
The first peak was also way back in February, before the lockdown so way fewer people were watching.
In the June period, Aki was getting 5-6k and Flare 8-10k, the others like Coco and Choco being all over the place.

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>>11879580
sadly holostats dosen't have the main bulk of ARKs arc nummbers but here is something as a reference. to note a few days before this Choco had 600 peak on Apex

>> No.11879877

>>11879746
didnt boost addicts like aki or choco, though

>> No.11879880

>>11879804
It is time for you to stop asking stupid questions.

>> No.11879912

>>11879877
Choco used her sub channel exclusively for Ark for some reason.

>> No.11880092

>>11879809
Anon, it's already past 1AM for Japan.

>>11879810
Also, should Hal's affiliation be changed to Merise or stay as an indie before the group becomes official? At the moment, I feel like Reid and Hal is still an indie. Once they debut their first gen, then it'll become official. Both of them can become Merise gen 0 kek.

>> No.11880109

>>11879580
Coco or Aqua got consistently over 10K but that was normal for those two in other streams too. For others it varied a bit but overall it was the biggest boost game the whole vtubing scene had seen yet, meaning several 10K streams every day and events and bigger collabs at over 20K. Aki stopped being a three digit viewer streamer when she picked up ARK.

>> No.11880159

>>11879804
That's stupid. Twitch-exclusive? With how permissions work and the different rules between the platforms, it sounds like a whole lotta fucking work for minimal-moderate gain.
Okay you know what, let's entertain this idea because I'm bored. Lets say they debut a wave of 5 very succesful chubbas, and they're all 15-20k+ streamers and basically trounce the shit out of vshojo. You know what happens? They sit on the front page and Twitch mods and admins start selectively enforcing nonsense bullshit, or even go so far as to segregate them off of the front page.

>> No.11880234

>>11879877
It did for Aki. Choco got into it very late and only did like one stream in Ragnarok which was the actual heyday, not Aberration.

>> No.11880335

>>11879809
Kanata peaked after midnight, she'll be in tomorrow's top, Flare makes this one.

>> No.11880355
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>45,172: Shibuya Hal (Indie)
>43,008: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>27,112: Pekora (Hololive)
>26,675: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>20,762: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,735: Miko (Hololive)
>18,038: Isekaijou (Kamitsubaki)
>18,035: Mumei (Hololive)
>17,933: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>17,134: Subaru (Hololive)
>17,030: Kiara (Hololive)
>15,917: Mito (Nijisanji)
>14,398: Rushia (Hololive)
>14,160: Fubuki (Hololive)
>13,698: IRyS (Hololive)
>12,976: Yashiro Kizuku (Nijisanji)
>12,493: Flare (Hololive)
>12,368: A.I. Channel (Kizuna AI Inc.)
>11,427: Korone (Hololive)
>11,300: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,207: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>11,012: Kai Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>10,835: Kanata (Hololive)
>10,734: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,567: Ars Almal (Nijisanji)

Surprising appearance of Kizuna AI

>> No.11880392

>>11879809
>>11880092
>Anon, it's already past 1AM for Japan.
Took a little longer because I had to fish for the actual peak for Kizuna, which live-ranking didn't carry.

>> No.11880411

>>11880355
been a bit of a while since we've got a strong day like today

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>>11880355
EMPEROR I KNEEL!

>> No.11880480

>>11880411
Strong weekend is strong, and the top 10 is pretty nice split too.
5 Holo, 3 Niji, 1 (soon to be not indie) Indie and 1 Kamitsubaki

>> No.11880489

>>11880411
If it weren't for the Niji Among Us and Hal announcement, it would have been a pretty average Saturday really.

Great seeing Kizuna Ai here.

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Btw, is Nene even more into numbers than we thought?
Since it dropped 1h after her low performing Apex collab, and the Matsuri duo yesterday, is she doing the Singing stream now to bring her avg back up?

>> No.11880590

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021

1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.5k - Summer craft championship
19) Suisei (Hololive) - 83.5k - Outfit Reveal
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 26.4k - Minecraft
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 63.2k - Survival Island End Stream
22) Pekora (Hololive) - 32.2k - Minecraft
23) Hal (Indie/Merise) - 45k - Merise Announcement

>> No.11880733

>>11880583
The new outfit reveal afterparties are enough to convince you she is.

>> No.11880764

>>11880159
>or even go so far as to segregate them off of the front page.
Isn't the Twitch home page randomized to begin with? The chances of the top streamers dominating their front page is not guaranteed.

>> No.11880806

>>11880583
All the holos are numberfags in one way or another, even if they claim to not care about numbers. It's literally a PART of any streamers job to at the very MINIMUM, care about long-term trends in their numbers so they can adjust their content.

>> No.11880897

>>11880764
You make a good point. 5 chubbas probably wouldn't be enough to cause that big of an issue on the front page. The logistics of running permissions is probably a bigger issue, and why segregate your talents like that when its easier to just stick to one platform? Running watchalongs on Twitch makes sense, but I'm not sure a full twitch-exclusive branch makes much sense given the box-pushing nature of Hololive. Seems like a good way to cause POTENTIAL issues in the long run.

>> No.11880908

I was reading one of the NijiEN bait threads and some people kept pointing out that Nina was basically responsible for tanking their wave's numbers? Who is she? Is she that bad or am I missing something here?

>> No.11880972

>>11880908
did you knowingly open a bait thread only to unironically fall for the bait?

>> No.11880997

>>11880590
Month tally:
Pekora 7
Subaru 3
Hal 2
Kuzuha 2
Ayame 1
Fubuki 1
Korone 1
Luna 1
Noel 1
Suisei 1
Kanae 1
Naraka 1
Nijisanji 1

Groups:
Hololive 16
Nijisanji 5
Hal 2

>> No.11880999

>>11880908
>Is she that bad or am I missing something here?
Roommate said lots of shit, may have costed her a segment of the audience but the tanking of NijiEN3 numbers is not on her alone.

None of them have any redeeming feature, all of them rely too much on "talking streams" and without anything to show for they won't have a base audience that will sit through (let's say) SC reading or watchalongs

>> No.11881009

>>11880908
Anon-chama...fine, I'm feeling generous.
She isn't responsible for that, the fact that they pushed out waves too close to each other, the fact that Selen stole their debut buff (kek), and the fact they frankly had a HORRID opening week of stream choices (really? Donation reading so soon? Bleh) killed momentum.
Nina is a lefty grifter who's 100% in it for the cash and essentially stated that she's in vtubing because it lets her get away with stuff she wouldn't be able to otherwise. She isn't entirely wrong, but to have that sort of thing dug up means it haunts you forever on a place like 4-chan.

>> No.11881028

>>11879810
Nah, Hal and by extension Merise are honorary Nijisanji therefore get fucked Holofaggots, Hololive reclining, Cover in shambles, Yagoo filing for bankruptcy tomorrow.
Nijisanji slow and steady strat always works

>> No.11881081

>>11881028
based shitposterchama

>> No.11881130

>>11879804
Is it time for you to take your meds?

>> No.11881137

>>11881028
Ehem, we call them the Male Vspo unit around here.

>> No.11881197

>>11880908
Bait thread aside, they're coping by blaming Nina for the subpar performance of the new wave.

>> No.11881223

>>11879804
Even 1 million $ per year for a platform exclusive deal from Twitch wouldn't be enough to cover the potential earnings of JUST 1 HoloEN member on YT.

They should occasionally stream on Twitch though, do the Peko-Miko double dip.

>> No.11881264

>>11879862
If it isnt for the ASMR purge and youtube constantly ban her, she would've been the queen if ASMR and the strongest 2nd gen barely behind Aqua and her chink army

>> No.11881266

>>11880583
i'd imagine it's particularly important for idol stuff, promotions, potential for solo concerts etc

>> No.11881353

>>11881197
>>11880908
And if we're honest, Nina is by far the most interesting of the group.

Russian, drunk, loose tongued mommy is more memorable than... one of the 3 ESL foul mouthed, zoomer singers

I've liked the other 3 since before they joined Nijisanji, but there's no denying that putting them together they look like the same gimmick to a new viewer.
Just that one's mostly French, one Spanish and one Filipino (possibly all Canadian).

>> No.11881507

>>11881353
Enna isn't esl tho. Kinda hard to believe you were familiar with them at any point.

>> No.11881581

>>11881507
>they look like the same gimmick to a new viewer.
I hate when people don't read the comment they're replying to. Ofc she's an English speaker, but as a pack, she appears as "the Frech-ish one".
Of course i knew Lyrica's friend, we all do here! Where do you think you are?

>> No.11881621

>>11881581
>I hate when people don't read the comment they're replying to
>one of the 3 ESL foul mouthed, zoomer singers
Are you retarded?

>> No.11881654

>>11880999
>>11881009
I could understand the management fucking up the waves by releasing too many too soon and then somehow them not having much to show for even while being a wave of four people... but I didn't know that there was some kind of history with that.

>Nina is a lefty grifter who's 100% in it for the cash and essentially stated that she's in vtubing because it lets her get away with stuff she wouldn't be able to otherwise. She isn't entirely wrong, but to have that sort of thing dug up means it haunts you forever on a place like 4-chan.
People should learn to mind what they say if they want to be a public figure of any kind. Either say it and own it or don't say it at all. People need to learn to not bite the hand that feeds them.

>>11881197
>nijicope
They'd be better off blaming management for their terrible decision making in dumping so many chuubas in a market they clearly have no dominance over. They should've known once Obsydia dropped and their CCV lowered (even if it was still stable) that they needed to make space for their chuubas to actually grow.

HoloEN could've gotten away with two full gens back in 2020 when Niji was still asleep and they had the chuuba market pretty much all to themselves, but even Cover didn't give it so much much as a thought.

>>11881353
What you say does make sense when given that kind of context.

>> No.11881701

>>11881654
The only thing makes sense here is people still discussing stuff they have no idea about

>> No.11881840

HoloEN could incline again when Mori gets a Music Collab with Gorillaz. Think about it.

>> No.11881891

https://twitter.com/holo_analyticsV
It's really not surprising Holo wins in monthly views, So many people are actively watching VOD's or old songs.
Also Subaru's 3D went from 990k to nearly 1m tonight.

>> No.11881944

>>11881840
>Hololive x Gorillaz
>incline
Nigga, that's just straight mainstream at that point.

>> No.11882014

>>11881944
Music is definitely the easiest/fastest way Hololive could break into the mainstream.
Could you imagine, Gura releases an album full of country songs, and becomes a hit across the US? Good lord the NUMBERS.

>> No.11882068

>>11881891
It's the Subaru-clipper loop
Subaru talks about how her girly ran reached 1 million views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIVZ2RbcMLY
it gets clipped along with the part where she asks people to watch the archive, because that hasn't reached 1 million yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y6yk1IprJA
From that people go to watch the video where she talks about having a girly run in the anniversary live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5To0jXm8H7c
and people go and watch the 3rd anniversary live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhvHZpK-9Ss

She's feeding views through clips on her other streams.

>> No.11882129

>>11882068
ah I didn't see that, Makes sense now.

>> No.11882163

>>11882014
The seethe could power the US for a year.

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>>11880355
>Ise-chan in the top 10
This put a smile on me

>> No.11882180

>>11880806
Watame continues to play a glacial FF9 run and extensive SC readings.

>> No.11882201

>>11882014
The fastest way would honestly be for any one of their many soudbites to hit a trend on tiktok, especially if it's a song.

They'd need to be on ticktock though, otherwise you just end up with Ollie's
"You guys want me to say Ara ara?"
where several videos have millions of views but people didn't know or care it started from Ollie and her original clips of the scene still don't have 1 million views.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX5QqMOzVS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anenhN6RUhQ

>> No.11882238

>>11881028
Quality shitposter. Get a laugh out of me
t.holochad

>> No.11882265

>>11880355
>14 holos
>8 nijis
>1 Kizuna Ai
>1 indie
>1 Kamitsubaki
14-11, pretty close but Nijisanji getting 3 of the top 4 pushes them ahead for the day.

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>>11882265

>> No.11882413

>>11882068
Tha..that's really a solid strat. Since when did subaru become a pro numberfag?

>> No.11882484

>>11882068
And it got another 10k views in the 15 minutes since this was posted, passing 1 million.

>> No.11882531

>>11882413
Did you miss her "kaigai-niki outreach" arc?

>> No.11882753

>>11882413
The Gura meme, Gura comments on meme, clippers clip reaction loop works pretty well too. See feet, ankha, animations

>> No.11882975

sad numbers.. https://youtu.be/8iin3HQpwSY

>> No.11883002
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veibae minecraft

>> No.11883009

>>11882975
>25k
I hope she didn't spend too much.

>> No.11883071

>>11882975
will get 100k views in one week, not particularly bad for mel

>> No.11883134

>>11883002
True

>>11880355
For the daily list, Apricot was over 10k for 2 hours in her birthday stream.
https://twitchtracker.com/apricot/streams/44166816413
Didn't make the list?

>> No.11883184

>>11882975
First original tends to be a fan-letter instead of trying to be a meme song.

>> No.11884054

NijiEN actually seemed well-positioned to answer some of the market demand for EN vtubers with the first wave or two with how long Hololive took to debut Council, but it seems they failed to capitalize on it properly. why?

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>

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>>11882068
and its done.

>> No.11884214

Just noticed that Enna is premiering her song at the same time that the HoloEN Among Us collab starts.

>> No.11884355

>>11884054
Because you touch yourself at night

>> No.11884424

>>11880590
Been awhile since something else other than Holo/Niji take the day
Very refreshing indeed

>> No.11884541

>>11884098
Why don't zoomers like The Office?

>> No.11884565

so where are the new recruited Vshojos? Cant be so hard to announce them, since they dont even need new characters, accounts, staff, or whatever else..

>> No.11884725

>>11884054
They needed to hit a home run to really make any difference before Council/IRyS dropped. They got 3 singles with Lazulight, a double with Selen and two strike outs. Too little too late. ID2 ended up with the same fate. Ollie's the only one who used the Holo EN gap to make a fanbase for herself, and she still took a hit, but the other two are locked into their numbers forever now. Niji EN had even less time to make an impression.

>> No.11884781

>>11884565
it's Haruka

>> No.11885085

>>11884565
they'll debut them on the 1 year anniversary along with the vshojo JP announcement

>> No.11885277

>>11883134
The list is not tracking twitch so the person who usually posts it has to add it manually. Usually no one bothers with it unless it alot of views like nyan's cookie kingdom stream.

>> No.11885846

>>11883134
>Didn't make the list?
It is added by hand when people post a link to a site tracking it. With Youtube videos I check playboard for the number when they carry it.

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veibae's 12k peak was a mini twitch raid

>> No.11885979

>>11880908
Without Nina the group doesn’t even grab my attention; doesn’t even stand out. There are just too many VTubers to watch now. I’m mostly a Holo only person and even I checked out more of NijiEN than typical because of the Nina controversy. Also to be fair, that controversy is only from a small and vocal minority here that doesn’t in anyway affect YouTube and Reddit focused people. My conclusion is Nina is a slight net benefit to prevent not being noticed in a situation where there is just too much competition now.

>> No.11886120

>>11885979
Let's just hope Niji managements actually have a say in what Nina can and cannot say on stream
Although given what happened recently (The whole "Taking shit on the other group" moment), I will not have my hopes up

>> No.11886371

>>11886120
Actually, if I were NijiEN management dealing with the increased VTuber competition, and looking to grow the numbers a bit, I would tell her to push the envelope even more. However, if I were HoloEN management, I would probably lean a bit more on the safe side.

>> No.11886731

>>11884098
Yeah Ina's logo is way better than Ame and Gura's

>> No.11886805

>>11886371
Nips don’t roll that way. They also don’t even blink before closing down a foreign subsidiary that causes them more trouble than worth.

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Got the slot for herself and is playing APEX. Smart girl

>> No.11886988

>>11886918
>playing APEX
>Smart girl

>> No.11887177

>>11881264
she should get back on the asmr train, youtube seems to have relaxed itself on that front.

>> No.11887189

>>11886805
Well I was only saying what I would do. Also to be fair, as I was watching NijiEN I soon realized they are less restrictive than HoloEN already (in what can and cannot be said), likely for the very reasons I specified; a desire to stand out more. My personal opinion is simply that it doesn’t go far enough. But whatever I guess.

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>>11887177
Choco's love of streaming has mostly died when the holocaust happened.
She lost 80%+ of her archive and is still missing a huge chunk.
>>11887189
Why would you actively try to create drama, especially with the dominant vtuber company. It would turn people off from watching.

>> No.11887347

>>11887189
VShoujo has much less restrictions than NijiEN, and better numbers.

>> No.11887388

>>11887189
Eh. The problem is that the things that they do and say are no different than what most indies and non-holo chuubas do nowadays. It's really only Hololive who "tries" to do the whole PG and roleplay shit while most indies and other corpos can't be arsed to roleplay.

>> No.11887441

>>11886120
>"Taking shit on the other group"
>>11887323
Completely OOTL here. Can anyone tell what has happened.

>> No.11887512

>>11887347
>and better numbers.
Ironically, their recent numbers come from
>Minecraft

>> No.11887559

>>11887441
On Nina's Russian only stream she talked about Coco and Kson as the same person and talked about how Hololive wouldn't allow Coco to do an English only stream.
She privated the stream right after it ended, don't think she edited anything out.

>> No.11887596

>>11887441
Nina broke Vtuber etiquette and aluded to Coco being Kson which is a big No-no. Even Millie, despite being a flip, knows not to do that (she even reprimanded her previous fans by posting in tagalog to stop posting references to her being Lyrica.)

>> No.11887637

>>11887512
Their numbers are still better than NijiEN without minecraft. Oh, and they are much less restrictive than NijiEN.

>> No.11887657

>>11887323
I’m simply of a different mindset, in that I don’t view removing the filter as necessarily creating drama.
>>11887347
>VShoujo has much less restrictions than NijiEN, and better numbers
I assume it probably gets them clipped more? Which is mostly my point. They stand out.
>>11887388
>The problem is that the things that they do and say are no different than what most indies and non-holo chuubas do nowadays
Well I think that’s true as well, which is why I said it doesn’t go far enough.

I think NijiEN is in a difficult situation right now. Even though I don’t watch VShojo, I’m curious as to who they will get from the auditions.

>> No.11887754

>>11887559
>>11887596
So first this girl has shit about being able to get away with shit because she has a vtuber model and now she breaks the etiquette for one of the most beloved holomems. I know it's basically an open secret but even people closest to Coco don't do shit like this. And the stuff about not being allowd to do English only stream , is she pulling that out of her ass like the anons on this board do ?

>> No.11887865

>>11887323
I feel that Hololive is targeting person who want to watch livestreamers but don't want to watch it because the drama behind it. It good tactic at least because if they are targeting people who watching streamers because drama, they will fight against big streamers

>> No.11887998

>>11887754
>I know it's basically an open secret but even people closest to Coco don't reveal her connection to kson.
Then my conclusion: Nina was willing to do more for kson than her friends could do for her, apparently. Even at the potential cost of her own job at Nijisanji.

>> No.11888021

>>11887657
>Well I think that’s true as well, which is why I said it doesn’t go far enough
Though I don't agree with your premise I do agree with this observation at least. NijiEN is in this weird middle ground of not being either Hololive or VShoujo. Which means that fans who like the anime-style slice of life vtubers will always choose Holos over them while those who prefer the unflitered western streamer style will always prefer VShoujo.

>> No.11888042

>>11887998
This is cutting reaaally close to NIJICOEP

>> No.11888066

>>11887754
Anon added some extra words there, she didn't say Coco was Kson, she said you can still find Coco streaming.
Looking for the thread with the exact translation, but I'd rather we drop this shit in the numbers thread.

>> No.11888174

>>11887998
How retarded are you ?

>> No.11888178

>>11887998
Oh please, anon. She's a grifter. If she did give a fuck she'd have kept that stream up instead of deleting the VOD. Honestly, Anykara better pray that she doesn't decide to go full WOKE because it's gonna be hard for them to graduate her without torpedoing whatever small western base that they have.

>> No.11888223

>>11888042
>This is cutting reaaally close to NIJICOEP
That is a meaningless comment that doesn’t address anything I said. My comment was simply meant to be as accurate as possible. It’s my opinion based on the available information.

>> No.11888247

>>11888178
So much for creative freedom! Let Nina does what she does best!

>> No.11888280

>>11880460
Emperor?
Of what exactly? He's corpo now, a small fish compared to HoloNiji.

>> No.11888284

>>11887865
>I feel that Hololive is targeting person who want to watch livestreamers but don't want to watch it because the drama behind it
Yep. One of the last bastions of entertainment for entertainment sake with no ties to the real world. The pandemics put people in search of escapism and cute anime girls playing vidya and singing and dancing and having cute tee tee moments provide just that.

>> No.11888310

>>11888178
Wouldn't be that hard. Nijis graduate all the time, they just spawn more waves and people move on. Coco and Aloe graduating are still two of the most defining moments of Hololive's existence, two of the biggest Niji females graduated this year and the collective response of their fanbase was basically "ehhhh ok."

>> No.11888322

>>11888178
Oh, I didn't know it was forever privated.
Must have had a stern talking to by her manager then.

>> No.11888402

>>11888310
>and Aloe
Yeah, not really. Her existence is going the way of “Hitomi Chris” already. People didn’t know her before debut (for obvious reasons), people that onboarded during HoloEN debut didn’t catch her and only a handful of “mourners” prevent her from being completely struck off the records forever

>> No.11888407

>>11888174
Read this: >>11888223

>>11888178
>If she did give a fuck she'd have kept that stream up instead of deleting the VOD
I assumed she had no choice.
>better pray that she doesn't decide to go full WOKE
That’s mainly what this is about, which a problem because it causes people to overemphasize something that actually amounts to nothing (Coco kson) on its own.

>> No.11888424

>>11888066
her words
>Remember, Coco from Hololive, even though she did things in English, she couldn't do full English streams like the half-Russian (sic) stream I'm doing now. I have...I was given way more rights to do this
>I can't always do this, and please give them Coco as an example, that Coco too...she did such half-English streams sometimes, but she couldn't even do a fully English stream, even though her command of English is excellent. So, yeah. I'll keep showing them, I'll keep telling them.
>All of this...I don't know if we have a right to talk about this, Coco left Hololive...but the actress who play...the actress, or you could say the vocal actress [she means voice actress] who plays her, she still makes streams and it's very easy to find her. It's very easy...oh, yeah, some people [in the chat] already said it
so if she baits chat to spam it its ok, right?

>> No.11888442

>>11888178
>>11888247
That'd be a pretty interesting shitstorm though. If Nina went full Kaepernick and rode the BLM+Woke crowd, does Anykara just allow it to happen or do they reign it in. I know some NijiJP's have voiced their opinions regarding their local politics, but dealing with foreign politics is an entirely different can of worms that I'm not sure Nijisanji as whole would know how to handle.

>> No.11888516

>>11888424
The kson part was dumb but Haachama did several English only streams going way way back to a point she almost got typecast as “the one that can speak English”.
Even Korone did “English only or the stream ends”, I don’t know where she got that dumb rrat but, IMO, parroting it was worse than the other part.

>> No.11888580

>>11888310
That only applies to NijiJP. They haven't been able to root themselves to the western audience as of yet so any real controversy could endanger the entire branch.

>> No.11888718
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11888718

>BACK TO NUMBERS
Some sort of “second string” vtubers among us will happen tomorrow (today) with Mel being the one from Hololive.
>PREDICTIONS?

Not for the actual numbers but only
>will any POV beat 5k?
and
>will Mel have the most watched POV?

>> No.11888731

>>11888442
I'm just talking out of my ass here but isn't it fine as long as you don't go full nationalistic in Japan?
I don't think Anycolor is the type of company to let a talent potentially tank their most successful foreign branch.

>> No.11888784

>>11888718
>BACK TO NUMBERS
Hopefully

>> No.11888827

>>11888718
Mel will have the highest followed by Kagura Nana. Everyone else normally gets below 1000.

>> No.11888834

>>11888718
>will any POV beat 5k?
no
>will Mel have the most watched POV?
probably, but that doesnt say much

>> No.11889235

>>11888718
Honestly that's more like third string.

>> No.11889388

>>11888718
The real numbers for among us will be in the end of the this month

>> No.11889472

>>11889388
>will be in the end of the this month
Why so? Also: did the game update or something? Why the sudden interest ?

>> No.11889535

>>11888718
>will any POV beat 5k?
No.
>will Mel have the most watched POV?
No. Tomari Mari will.

>> No.11889760
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11889760

>>11888718
Mel used to be part of these multi-company AmongUs colalbs a lot but they didn't do them for a while.
No, she hasn't broken 2k for any outside the Holo vs Niji one.

>> No.11889819
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11889819

sportfes confirmed

>> No.11889922

>>11889819
Miko talks about it here
https://youtu.be/_B5uC69x6lM

>> No.11890284

>>11889819
Will HoloEN manage to join this time??? Holy SHit i'm excited

>> No.11890768

>>11889819
number number number

>> No.11891324

>>11880583
>more apex streams day after day
>collab with Matsuri
HOW DO WE SAVE HER, numberbros?!

>> No.11891329
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11891329

https://twitter.com/HololiveMemes/status/1452036832296947719?t=2IJTdA4e0Wqd1F_ldg7HFA&s=19

>> No.11891397

>>11886988
i will pick 1st one

>> No.11891907

>>11891329
What would maximize their numbers? Minecraft? Member participation game? Submission review?

>> No.11892021

>>11891907
Something competitive with only one POV

>> No.11892235

>>11891907
offcollab

>> No.11892334

>Now I Have a Machine Gun HO HO HO!!
I just finished the "Mado Scraper" so I can chart Nijisanji as well, at least with regards to the peak of their streams.

Here is some data for September 2021, source is Mado, format is
>median of peak :: mean average peak :: num_streams :: branch :: streamer

here it goes
>25840 :: 25721 :: 4 streams :: jp :: 剣持刀也
>25701 :: 30593 :: 30 streams :: jp :: Kuzuha Channel
>22877 :: 22877 :: 1 streams :: jp :: ChroNoiR
>16831 :: 28848 :: 9 streams :: jp :: にじさんじ
>15275 :: 15469 :: 26 streams :: jp :: イブラヒム
>12903 :: 16152 :: 9 streams :: jp :: 月ノ美兎
>12711 :: 15526 :: 7 streams :: jp :: リゼ・ヘルエスタ -Lize Helesta-
>11947 :: 13457 :: 36 streams :: jp :: Kanae Channel
>11235 :: 11212 :: 10 streams :: jp :: アンジュ・カトリーナ - Ange Katrina -
>9918 :: 11685 :: 22 streams :: jp :: 不破 湊 / Fuwa Minato
>8326 :: 8326 :: 1 streams :: id :: NIJISANJI ID Official
>8140 :: 17973 :: 7 streams :: jp :: 戌亥とこ -Inui Toko-
>7633 :: 8213 :: 22 streams :: jp :: 本間ひまわり - Himawari Honma -
>7347 :: 7347 :: 1 streams :: en :: NIJISANJI English Official
>7170 :: 9013 :: 20 streams :: jp :: 社築
>7159 :: 7910 :: 30 streams :: jp :: アルス・アルマル -ars almal-
>6943 :: 7482 :: 19 streams :: jp :: 三枝明那 / Saegusa Akina
>6898 :: 10709 :: 18 streams :: jp :: 加賀美 ハヤト/Hayato Kagami
>6118 :: 6612 :: 10 streams :: jp :: 笹木咲 / Sasaki Saku
>5706 :: 6108 :: 24 streams :: jp :: 勇気ちひろ
>5701 :: 6321 :: 35 streams :: jp :: ローレン・イロアス / Lauren Iroas
>5462 :: 5161 :: 13 streams :: jp :: 黛 灰 / Kai Mayuzumi
>5373 :: 5822 :: 23 streams :: jp :: フレン・E・ルスタリオ
>5370 :: 6144 :: 7 streams :: jp :: 椎名唯華 / Shiina Yuika
>5363 :: 5459 :: 12 streams :: jp :: 花畑チャイカ
>5341 :: 6496 :: 31 streams :: jp :: レオス・ヴィンセント / Leos.Vincent
>4522 :: 5002 :: 14 streams :: jp :: 舞元啓介
>4493 :: 5852 :: 27 streams :: jp :: 天宮 こころ / Amamya Ch.
>4090 :: 4986 :: 28 streams :: jp :: アクシア・クローネ / Axia Krone
>4078 :: 4239 :: 10 streams :: jp :: ラトナ・プティ -Ratna Petit -
>3956 :: 4255 :: 35 streams :: jp :: 夜見れな/yorumi rena
>3872 :: 4427 :: 56 streams :: jp :: 甲斐田 晴 / Kaida Haru
>3852 :: 4036 :: 23 streams :: kr :: 눈보라 / Bora Nun
>3793 :: 3770 :: 16 streams :: jp :: ましろ / Mashiro
>3793 :: 4350 :: 15 streams :: jp :: 星川サラ / Sara Hoshikawa
>3719 :: 4137 :: 28 streams :: jp :: エクス・アルビオ -Ex Albio-
>3670 :: 6107 :: 8 streams :: jp :: 町田ちま
>3472 :: 4870 :: 7 streams :: jp :: ジョー・力一 Joe Rikiichi
>3240 :: 3411 :: 27 streams :: jp :: 葉加瀬 冬雪 / Hakase Fuyuki
>3177 :: 3260 :: 6 streams :: jp :: シェリン・バーガンディ -Shellin Burgundy-
>3116 :: 6657 :: 16 streams :: jp :: 魔使マオ -matsukai mao-
>3021 :: 4733 :: 13 streams :: jp :: 文野環【にじさんじの野良猫】ふみのたまき
>2976 :: 3146 :: 31 streams :: jp :: でびでび・でびる
>2895 :: 6494 :: 11 streams :: jp :: 樋口楓
>2830 :: 3801 :: 15 streams :: jp :: ニュイ・ソシエール //[Nui Sociere]
>2696 :: 3491 :: 19 streams :: jp :: 魔界ノりりむ
>2692 :: 3107 :: 31 streams :: jp :: 鷹宮リオン / Rion Takamiya
>2658 :: 3193 :: 27 streams :: en :: Selen Tatsuki
>2519 :: 7093 :: 24 streams :: jp :: グウェル・オス・ガール / Gwelu Os Gar
>2344 :: 2391 :: 37 streams :: jp :: える / Elu
>2305 :: 2446 :: 12 streams :: jp :: 鈴鹿詩子 Utako Suzuka
>2287 :: 2409 :: 15 streams :: jp :: Yuhi Riri Official
>2229 :: 2530 :: 11 streams :: jp :: シスター・クレア -SisterClaire-
>2181 :: 2141 :: 11 streams :: jp :: 卯月コウ
>2123 :: 2075 :: 16 streams :: jp :: 伏見ガク
>2107 :: 2617 :: 25 streams :: jp :: オリバー・エバンス / Oliver Evans
>2082 :: 2582 :: 21 streams :: jp :: 葉山舞鈴 / Hayama Marin
>2028 :: 2490 :: 7 streams :: jp :: 奈羅花 - Naraka -

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>> No.11892377

>>11892334
>1996 :: 3021 :: 13 :: jp :: ベルモンド・バンデラス
>1981 :: 2145 :: 8 :: jp :: 緑仙のゲームちゃんねる
>1905 :: 2004 :: 21 :: en :: Elira Pendora
>1875 :: 7607 :: 8 :: jp :: 緑仙 / Ryushen
>1873 :: 2147 :: 10 :: jp :: 夢追翔のJUKE BOX
>1859 :: 2982 :: 34 :: jp :: 長尾 景 / Nagao Kei
>1843 :: 2896 :: 31 :: jp :: レイン・パターソン/Lain Paterson
>1825 :: 2601 :: 16 :: jp :: ルイス・キャミー
>1791 :: 1754 :: 5 :: jp :: 竜胆 尊 / Rindou Mikoto
>1763 :: 7426 :: 15 :: jp :: メリッサ・キンレンカ
>1762 :: 2407 :: 8 :: jp :: ドーラ
>1635 :: 2763 :: 9 :: jp :: 東堂コハク/ Todo Kohaku [にじさんじ]
>1617 :: 1644 :: 21 :: en :: Finana Ryugu
>1593 :: 1799 :: 26 :: en :: Pomu Rainpuff
>1588 :: 1871 :: 22 :: jp :: Shizuka Rin Official
>1562 :: 1889 :: 13 :: jp :: 童田明治-わらべだめいじー-
>1513 :: 1973 :: 24 :: jp :: 白雪 巴/Shirayuki Tomoe
>1416 :: 1427 :: 32 :: jp :: 桜凛月
>1415 :: 1757 :: 7 :: jp :: 森中花咲
>1402 :: 1460 :: 7 :: jp :: 弦月 藤士郎 / Genzuki Tojiro
>1400 :: 1733 :: 29 :: en :: Rosemi Lovelock
>1282 :: 1429 :: 10 :: jp :: 赤羽葉子ちゃんねる
>1267 :: 1569 :: 27 :: jp :: 西園チグサ / Nishizono Chigusa
>1247 :: 1266 :: 6 :: jp :: エリー・コニファー / Eli Conifer
>1219 :: 1591 :: 21 :: jp :: 鈴木勝 / Suzuki Masaru
>1192 :: 1490 :: 18 :: jp :: 周央 サンゴ / Suo Sango
>1165 :: 1251 :: 16 :: jp :: 山神 カルタ / Karuta Yamagami
>1145 :: 1164 :: 2 :: jp :: 黒井しば【にじさんじの犬】
>1108 :: 1363 :: 39 :: jp :: 小野町 春香 / Onomachi Haruka
>1084 :: 1543 :: 16 :: jp :: 北小路ヒスイ / Kitakoji Hisui
>1033 :: 1236 :: 23 :: en :: Petra Gurin
>1021 :: 1320 :: 34 :: jp :: フミ/にじさんじ
>1015 :: 1233 :: 20 :: jp :: 【3年0組】郡道美玲の教室
>1014 :: 1224 :: 21 :: jp :: 来栖 夏芽-kurusu natsume-
>837 :: 837 :: 1 :: jp :: 矢車りね - Rine Yaguruma -
>806 :: 1220 :: 22 :: jp :: 神田笑一
>776 :: 693 :: 3 :: jp :: 《の女神》モイラ
>751 :: 808 :: 9 :: jp :: えまおうがすと
>662 :: 1485 :: 11 :: jp :: レヴィ・エリファ-Levi Elipha-
>557 :: 672 :: 13 :: jp :: 空星きらめ/Sorahoshi Kirame
>548 :: 569 :: 8 :: jp :: 春崎エアル
>544 :: 596 :: 16 :: jp :: 鈴谷アキの陽だまりの庭
>533 :: 721 :: 12 :: id :: Bonnivier Pranaja
>518 :: 1179 :: 3 :: jp :: 朝日南アカネ / Asahina Akane
>509 :: 698 :: 18 :: jp :: 瀬戸 美夜子 - Miyako Seto
>494 :: 583 :: 9 :: id :: Hana Macchia Ch.
>439 :: 596 :: 29 :: jp :: 渋谷ハジメのはじめ支部
>424 :: 424 :: 1 :: jp :: 飛鳥ひな
>420 :: 498 :: 9 :: jp :: 家長むぎ
>382 :: 3123 :: 6 :: jp :: 早瀬 走 / Hayase Sou
>354 :: 389 :: 12 :: jp :: 愛園 愛美/Aizono Manami
>344 :: 1311 :: 2 :: kr :: 이로하 /LeeRoha
>343 :: 1168 :: 10 :: jp :: 轟京子/kyoko todoroki
>309 :: 389 :: 22 :: jp :: 雪城眞尋/Yukishiro Mahiro
>290 :: 637 :: 20 :: jp :: 成瀬 鳴 / Naruse Naru
>285 :: 416 :: 13 :: id :: Taka Radjiman
>281 :: 499 :: 14 :: kr :: 반하다 / Ban Hada
>273 :: 442 :: 7 :: id :: Miyu Ottavia
>251 :: 388 :: 12 :: kr :: 소나기 / Nagi So
>241 :: 238 :: 16 :: id :: Amicia Michella
>238 :: 294 :: 19 :: id :: Siska Leontyne
>235 :: 232 :: 19 :: id :: Mika Melatika
>228 :: 625 :: 13 :: kr :: 오지유 / Jiyu Oh
>225 :: 317 :: 21 :: kr :: 나세라 / Na Sera
>225 :: 254 :: 14 :: kr :: 아키라 레이 / 明楽 レイ / Ray Akira
>221 :: 241 :: 7 :: id :: Rai Galilei
>219 :: 232 :: 23 :: kr :: 양나리 / Nari Yang
>189 :: 246 :: 17 :: id :: ZEA Cornelia
>184 :: 189 :: 17 :: id :: Nara Haramaung
>181 :: 264 :: 20 :: kr :: 하윤 / Ha Yun
>177 :: 230 :: 21 :: id :: Xia Ekavira
>169 :: 178 :: 17 :: kr :: 민수하 / Suha Min
>143 :: 161 :: 15 :: id :: Azura Cecillia
>143 :: 161 :: 20 :: id :: Hyona Elatiora
>142 :: 198 :: 8 :: kr :: 채아라 / Ara Chae
>142 :: 190 :: 23 :: kr :: 고야미 / Ko Yami
>136 :: 156 :: 27 :: kr :: 세피나 / Seffyna
>128 :: 121 :: 12 :: kr :: 한치호 / Chiho Han
>123 :: 121 :: 5 :: id :: Etna Crimson
>122 :: 203 :: 20 :: kr :: 이온 / Lee On
>119 :: 151 :: 21 :: id :: Reza Avanluna
>117 :: 135 :: 21 :: id :: Riksa Dhirendra
>93 :: 100 :: 15 :: kr :: 류하리 / Hari Ryu
>90 :: 147 :: 15 :: kr :: 이시우 / Siu Lee
>84 :: 102 :: 40 :: id :: Layla Alstroemeria
>80 :: 92 :: 17 :: id :: Derem Kado
>67 :: 63 :: 11 :: id :: Nagisa Arcinia
>64 :: 75 :: 7 :: kr :: 가온 / GAON
>58 :: 58 :: 1 :: kr :: 신기루 / Kiru Shin
>54 :: 85 :: 9 :: kr :: 송미아 / Song Mia
>25 :: 28 :: 5 :: vr :: 犬童 / kendou

>> No.11892431

>>11887637
True. honestly why bother with NijiEN when you have Holo or Vshojo to choose from. If you're content is not gonna run afoul of Holo's restriction, then go audition there.

If you really value creative freedom, then just go to Vshojo.

>> No.11892489

People waiting - Among US Collab

Gura 2,099
Mumei 988
Ina 886
Kiara 758
Fauna 699
IRyS 669
Mori 674
Ame 643
Baelz 462
Kronii didn't scheduled her stream yet

>> No.11892496

>>11892334
>>11892377
I've been waiting for this.

>> No.11892596

>>11892489
kronii is die

>> No.11892627

>>11892334
>>11892377
For October 2021, these are the numbers so far
>median_peak :: mean_peak :: num_streams :: ps :: author

Here it goes
>26675 :: 27978 :: 25 :: jp :: Kuzuha Channel
>19122 :: 41163 :: 2 :: jp :: にじさんじ
>13125 :: 16215 :: 6 :: jp :: 剣持刀也
>11304 :: 12653 :: 32 :: jp :: Kanae Channel
>10859 :: 11195 :: 11 :: jp :: リゼ・ヘルエスタ -Lize Helesta-
>10465 :: 10465 :: 1 :: en :: NIJISANJI English Official
>9366 :: 10060 :: 21 :: jp :: 不破 湊 / Fuwa Minato
>8165 :: 8886 :: 7 :: jp :: アンジュ・カトリーナ - Ange Katrina -
>8080 :: 9411 :: 16 :: jp :: 加賀美 ハヤト/Hayato Kagami
>8047 :: 8620 :: 19 :: jp :: 社築
>7614 :: 8152 :: 24 :: jp :: イブラヒム
>7589 :: 9687 :: 10 :: jp :: 月ノ美兎
>6492 :: 6113 :: 5 :: jp :: ジョー・力一 Joe Rikiichi
>5876 :: 6628 :: 21 :: jp :: 勇気ちひろ
>5647 :: 8593 :: 6 :: jp :: 戌亥とこ -Inui Toko-
>5426 :: 5649 :: 18 :: jp :: アルス・アルマル -ars almal-
>5275 :: 6411 :: 11 :: jp :: 笹木咲 / Sasaki Saku
>5135 :: 6108 :: 15 :: jp :: フレン・E・ルスタリオ
>4656 :: 5228 :: 12 :: jp :: 三枝明那 / Saegusa Akina
>4602 :: 3967 :: 13 :: jp :: 樋口楓
>4428 :: 7020 :: 8 :: jp :: 花畑チャイカ
>4422 :: 4422 :: 1 :: jp :: 春崎エアル
>4371 :: 4338 :: 24 :: jp :: 夜見れな/yorumi rena
>4204 :: 4132 :: 17 :: jp :: ローレン・イロアス / Lauren Iroas
>4160 :: 4478 :: 26 :: jp :: レオス・ヴィンセント / Leos.Vincent
>4010 :: 5021 :: 18 :: jp :: ニュイ・ソシエール //[Nui Sociere]
>3986 :: 5176 :: 14 :: jp :: 黛 灰 / Kai Mayuzumi
>3982 :: 8543 :: 11 :: jp :: 椎名唯華 / Shiina Yuika
>3767 :: 3774 :: 20 :: jp :: 本間ひまわり - Himawari Honma -
>3638 :: 3993 :: 3 :: jp :: ラトナ・プティ -Ratna Petit -
>3492 :: 7989 :: 14 :: jp :: 奈羅花 - Naraka -
>3423 :: 3376 :: 12 :: jp :: 星川サラ / Sara Hoshikawa
>3392 :: 4396 :: 12 :: jp :: 舞元啓介
>3295 :: 3491 :: 19 :: jp :: アクシア・クローネ / Axia Krone
>3194 :: 4225 :: 13 :: jp :: 伏見ガク
>3140 :: 3817 :: 16 :: jp :: 葉加瀬 冬雪 / Hakase Fuyuki
>3050 :: 3022 :: 11 :: jp :: ましろ / Mashiro
>2864 :: 2922 :: 15 :: jp :: エクス・アルビオ -Ex Albio-
>2763 :: 2998 :: 22 :: en :: Selen Tatsuki
>2620 :: 2551 :: 19 :: jp :: 天宮 こころ / Amamya Ch.
>2563 :: 3315 :: 17 :: kr :: 눈보라 / Bora Nun
>2519 :: 3260 :: 16 :: jp :: 鷹宮リオン / Rion Takamiya
>2509 :: 3358 :: 8 :: jp :: 町田ちま
>2411 :: 2461 :: 10 :: jp :: 鈴鹿詩子 Utako Suzuka
>2334 :: 2901 :: 43 :: jp :: 甲斐田 晴 / Kaida Haru
>2324 :: 4783 :: 10 :: jp :: でびでび・でびる
>2263 :: 2503 :: 13 :: jp :: 魔使マオ -matsukai mao-
>2224 :: 2309 :: 9 :: jp :: ドーラ
>2162 :: 2485 :: 11 :: jp :: ルイス・キャミー
>2083 :: 2500 :: 5 :: jp :: 文野環【にじさんじの野良猫】ふみのたまき
>2079 :: 2253 :: 8 :: jp :: 卯月コウ
>2020 :: 2020 :: 1 :: jp :: 物述有栖
>2013 :: 2228 :: 30 :: jp :: える / Elu

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>> No.11892659

>>11892627
>1896 :: 3332 :: 16 :: jp :: 周央 サンゴ / Suo Sango
>1855 :: 2006 :: 16 :: jp :: オリバー・エバンス / Oliver Evans
>1795 :: 2359 :: 19 :: en :: Elira Pendora
>1773 :: 2168 :: 15 :: jp :: ベルモンド・バンデラス
>1772 :: 1852 :: 12 :: jp :: 葉山舞鈴 / Hayama Marin
>1741 :: 1722 :: 11 :: jp :: 夢追翔のJUKE BOX
>1720 :: 1920 :: 20 :: en :: Pomu Rainpuff
>1668 :: 3240 :: 6 :: jp :: 緑仙 / Ryushen
>1641 :: 1900 :: 2 :: jp :: 相羽ういは〖Aiba Uiha〗
>1596 :: 1733 :: 14 :: jp :: 魔界ノりりむ
>1566 :: 1904 :: 3 :: jp :: シェリン・バーガンディ -Shellin Burgundy-
>1560 :: 1703 :: 10 :: jp :: 北小路ヒスイ / Kitakoji Hisui
>1533 :: 1695 :: 15 :: jp :: 桜凛月
>1481 :: 2521 :: 13 :: jp :: 【3年0組】郡道美玲の教室
>1461 :: 1651 :: 22 :: jp :: 長尾 景 / Nagao Kei
>1455 :: 2228 :: 17 :: en :: Millie Parfait
>1405 :: 1666 :: 5 :: jp :: 竜胆 尊 / Rindou Mikoto
>1340 :: 1467 :: 14 :: en :: Finana Ryugu
>1324 :: 1443 :: 20 :: en :: Rosemi Lovelock
>1324 :: 2013 :: 2 :: jp :: 黒井しば【にじさんじの犬】
>1315 :: 1232 :: 15 :: en :: Petra Gurin
>1300 :: 1375 :: 4 :: jp :: 弦月 藤士郎 / Genzuki Tojiro
>1280 :: 1749 :: 21 :: jp :: レイン・パターソン/Lain Paterson
>1272 :: 1556 :: 3 :: jp :: 東堂コハク/ Todo Kohaku
>1265 :: 1382 :: 7 :: jp :: 白雪 巴/Shirayuki Tomoe
>1232 :: 2872 :: 6 :: jp :: シスター・クレア -SisterClaire-
>1166 :: 2057 :: 12 :: jp :: グウェル・オス・ガール / Gwelu Os Gar
>1159 :: 1192 :: 28 :: jp :: Shizuka Rin Official
>1154 :: 1594 :: 15 :: jp :: 鈴木勝 / Suzuki Masaru
>1146 :: 1326 :: 5 :: jp :: 赤羽葉子ちゃんねる
>1104 :: 1160 :: 14 :: jp :: 山神 カルタ / Karuta Yamagami
>1070 :: 1193 :: 11 :: jp :: 西園チグサ / Nishizono Chigusa
>1068 :: 1097 :: 9 :: jp :: 緑仙のゲームちゃんねる
>1040 :: 1927 :: 19 :: en :: Enna Alouette
>1038 :: 2132 :: 14 :: jp :: Yuhi Riri Official
>1005 :: 1299 :: 6 :: jp :: メリッサ・キンレンカ
>977 :: 1171 :: 14 :: jp :: 来栖 夏芽-kurusu natsume-
>946 :: 1637 :: 20 :: en :: Nina Kosaka
>942 :: 1525 :: 21 :: jp :: 小野町 春香 / Onomachi Haruka
>900 :: 1744 :: 20 :: en :: Reimu Endou
>891 :: 958 :: 9 :: jp :: 森中花咲
>855 :: 1221 :: 16 :: jp :: フミ/にじさんじ
>764 :: 1801 :: 4 :: jp :: 朝日南アカネ / Asahina Akane
>706 :: 804 :: 5 :: jp :: えまおうがすと
>691 :: 1060 :: 3 :: jp :: 童田明治-わらべだめいじー-
>651 :: 648 :: 6 :: jp :: 安土桃
>601 :: 659 :: 8 :: jp :: レヴィ・エリファ-Levi Elipha-
>577 :: 582 :: 9 :: id :: Hana Macchia Ch.
>576 :: 727 :: 5 :: jp :: 《の女神》モイラ
>539 :: 470 :: 13 :: jp :: 瀬戸 美夜子 - Miyako Seto
>479 :: 581 :: 2 :: id :: Bonnivier Pranaja
>458 :: 458 :: 1 :: jp :: エリー・コニファー / Eli Conifer
>457 :: 589 :: 26 :: jp :: 神田笑一
>446 :: 488 :: 8 :: jp :: 空星きらめ/Sorahoshi Kirame
>433 :: 539 :: 6 :: kr :: 이로하 /LeeRoha
>414 :: 494 :: 12 :: jp :: 鈴谷アキの陽だまりの庭
>386 :: 511 :: 4 :: kr :: 아키라 레이 / 明楽 レイ / Ray Akira
>366 :: 395 :: 11 :: jp :: 雪城眞尋/Yukishiro Mahiro
>356 :: 381 :: 7 :: jp :: 轟京子/kyoko todoroki
>351 :: 418 :: 8 :: jp :: 愛園 愛美/Aizono Manami
>342 :: 371 :: 19 :: kr :: 양나리 / Nari Yang
>340 :: 595 :: 13 :: kr :: 소나기 / Nagi So
>327 :: 369 :: 8 :: jp :: 家長むぎ
>308 :: 320 :: 11 :: id :: Mika Melatika
>298 :: 430 :: 11 :: kr :: 반하다 / Ban Hada
>277 :: 275 :: 24 :: kr :: 세피나 / Seffyna
>257 :: 364 :: 2 :: id :: Taka Radjiman
>249 :: 405 :: 8 :: id :: Miyu Ottavia
>227 :: 222 :: 11 :: id :: ZEA Cornelia
>217 :: 279 :: 23 :: jp :: 渋谷ハジメのはじめ支部
>216 :: 270 :: 19 :: id :: Siska Leontyne
>209 :: 219 :: 12 :: kr :: 이시우 / Siu Lee
>192 :: 1196 :: 10 :: jp :: 成瀬 鳴 / Naruse Naru
>172 :: 264 :: 5 :: id :: Rai Galilei
>170 :: 248 :: 16 :: kr :: 하윤 / Ha Yun
>166 :: 192 :: 18 :: id :: Xia Ekavira
>164 :: 177 :: 6 :: id :: Nara Haramaung
>163 :: 210 :: 11 :: kr :: 오지유 / Jiyu Oh
>161 :: 169 :: 8 :: kr :: 송미아 / Song Mia
>155 :: 173 :: 8 :: id :: Azura Cecillia
>155 :: 145 :: 9 :: kr :: 민수하 / Suha Min
>142 :: 148 :: 8 :: id :: Layla Alstroemeria
>141 :: 152 :: 15 :: kr :: 나세라 / Na Sera
>136 :: 242 :: 15 :: id :: Amicia Michella
>124 :: 154 :: 4 :: kr :: 채아라 / Ara Chae
>118 :: 131 :: 17 :: kr :: 이온 / Lee On
>118 :: 184 :: 18 :: id :: Reza Avanluna
>117 :: 137 :: 8 :: kr :: 류하리 / Hari Ryu
>115 :: 120 :: 13 :: kr :: 고야미 / Ko Yami
>104 :: 102 :: 13 :: kr :: 한치호 / Chiho Han
>103 :: 115 :: 10 :: id :: Hyona Elatiora
>82 :: 197 :: 15 :: id :: Riksa Dhirendra
>78 :: 82 :: 11 :: id :: Etna Crimson
>64 :: 60 :: 7 :: id :: Nagisa Arcinia
>57 :: 58 :: 3 :: kr :: 신기루 / Kiru Shin
>55 :: 66 :: 7 :: kr :: 가온 / GAON
>52 :: 66 :: 16 :: id :: Derem Kado
>31 :: 31 :: 1 :: vr :: 犬童 / kendou

>> No.11892758

>>11892377
>>11892659
Lain really plummeted to Selejo level even with those massive debut numbers. Is Nijisanji capable of producing a top tier female liver anymore, it looks there've been none in 2 years.

>> No.11892820

>>11892627
this doesn't look good.

>> No.11892839
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11892839

>>11879272
>missed out on a 10bagger

>> No.11892881

>>11892334
>Kenmochi at the top for september with 4 streams
He really is He-ayame.

>> No.11893050

Here it is, the same data, split by branch
>median_peak :: mean_peak :: num_streams :: ps

July 2021 (17-31)
>2744 :: 6639 :: 842 :: jp
>2531 :: 3150 :: 79 :: en
>204 :: 294 :: 124 :: id
>144 :: 293 :: 118 :: kr

August 2021
>2757 :: 6269 :: 1734 :: jp
>1725 :: 1996 :: 161 :: en
>211 :: 318 :: 316 :: id
>154 :: 819 :: 198 :: kr
>44 :: 45 :: 6 :: vr

September 2021
>2661 :: 4861 :: 1722 :: jp
>1754 :: 1998 :: 148 :: en
>170 :: 540 :: 296 :: kr
>170 :: 250 :: 308 :: id
>25 :: 28 :: 5 :: vr

October 2021 (1-23)
>2470 :: 4249 :: 1246 :: jp
>1454 :: 1977 :: 187 :: en
>197 :: 474 :: 230 :: kr
>150 :: 218 :: 199 :: id
>31 :: 31 :: 1 :: vr

This is an interesting view because it shows the flaw in using the mean average of peaks: it was severely inflated in late July and all of August and cratered in September even if the median didn't really go down that much

October tho, not showing the same strength as August

>> No.11893131

>>11892334
>>11892377
>>11892627
>>11892659
>>11893050
One more thing: with this data I'll be able (after a long time) to put Hololive and Nijisanji side by side in the same chart
>at least with regards to their peaks and number of streams

Stay tuned!

>> No.11893150

>>11892758
Furen's their best performing female liver since ars debuted.

>> No.11893262
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11893262

>>11893131
>>11893050
Kansha. It's been months and I was waiting eagerly. Save /#/

>> No.11893418

>>11893050
Dont include VR its useless to numberfag them since their main platform is bilibili and theres no way to find out the exact live ccv on that platform.

>> No.11893685

>>11893418
This only include Youtube streams, like this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQgd82UWNG8

Seems like one of the VR guys does stream on youtube

>> No.11893697

>>11893131
Based NumberChad

>> No.11893746

Here is one more for today: for October 2021 so far these are the number of streams that hit each range

EN
>0-9999: 182 streams from 10 channels
>10000-19999: 5 streams from 5 channels

JP
>0-9999: 1130 streams from 97 channels
>10000-19999: 83 streams from 26 channels
>20000-29999: 22 streams from 9 channels
>30000-39999: 6 streams from 2 channels
>40000-49999: 1 streams from 1 channels
>50000-59999: 3 streams from 3 channels
>60000-69999: 1 streams from 1 channels

>> No.11893797
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11893797

Top 10 is even among males/females for September.
Thought it would be a little more male heavy.

>> No.11893832

>>11893150
Right, she's not at 2 years yet. Guess it'll be 2 years since they produced a female liver that's competitive numbers-wise in about 4 months time then.

>> No.11893877

>>11893797
Other than Honma all girls have 10 or fewer streams. Out of the boys, only he-Ayame

>> No.11893882

>>11893797
you should find a way to drop all the info into one post. I didnt even bother to read a single thing.

>> No.11893919

>>11893882
I'm not the one who did the data dump, I just put it into excel so I could look at it.

>> No.11893932

>>11893746
>EN
>10000-19999: 5 streams from 5 channels
What were these, the Ethyria debuts?

>> No.11893943

>>11893882
That will be done when I have the charts, these posts are just teasers / preliminary stuff.

"One pic says more than a thousand words" applies to this too

>> No.11893946

>>11889535
Yeah, Tomari will probably get 2k or something

>> No.11894009

Here is something interesting: Mumei has the second highest waiting room, Ina has the third.

>> No.11894093

>>11894009
thats because kronii will only open hers on the last 30 minutes or so.

>> No.11894126

>>11893882
Dumb cunt leave the thread then

>> No.11894127

>>11893932
>What were these, the Ethyria debuts?
What else?

>> No.11894231
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11894231

>>11893131
Thank you GraphAnon! You are the savior of this thread!

>> No.11894289

>>11894009
She got a lot of clips during the DBD collab because she was roleplaying as an yandere and doing an uwu voice, maybe some people (like me) are expecting her to do the same today

>> No.11894372

>>11893882
Ungratefull faggot gtfo

>> No.11894547
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11894547

>>11894289
>roleplaying

>> No.11894596

>>11892334
>>11892377
Holy shit, that's a lot of members...

I'm surprised with JPs, I thought that most them had a 3 digits CCV

>> No.11894781

>>11894596
Nope, that's why they're still able to go toe-to-toe with Hololive in the JP market, and why the insisted on flooding the market until last year.

>> No.11895498
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11895498

18k waiting

>> No.11895515
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11895515

October rank of EN girls.

>> No.11895641

>>11895498
Waiting room waiting across multiple streams in the same collab tally is dubious, as multi-tabs aren't culled until streams start.
That's why we can see extreme drops, or that waiting room > actual CCV in some collabs. I'd wait until the actual streams start before I start tallying.

>> No.11895880
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11895880

time to start posting your predictions anons, heres mine:
Gura > Kronii > Mumei > Amelia > Ina > Irys > Fauna > Mori > Baelz > Kiara > Sana
peaks 22k top 3k bottom

>> No.11896123

>>11895880
Mine is
Crewmate<Impostor<Gura

>> No.11896303

>>11895880
gonna go against the grain and say that gura won't hit 20k, and kronii, mumei, and ina won't go above 13k. The rest won't hit 10k. Turnout will generally be low

>> No.11896315

>>11895515
>Millie
Is she doing anything different or is just the design?

>> No.11896348

>>11895880
Sana won't have a POV.

>> No.11896369

>>11895880
18k peak amogus is not really a buff game at this point
4k bottom since Sana isn't streaming

>> No.11896402

>>11892489
What's the possibility that someone gets doesn't make it past 2k viewers?

>> No.11896409

>>11893131
Holy fuck I thought you abandoned this thread.

>> No.11896427

>>11896402
Basically zero.

>> No.11896453

>>11896402
Not possible. None of the EN girls have pulled sub 2k outside of watchalongs iirc, even Sana's mega-debuff astrology at the worst times streams.

>> No.11896541

>>11896402
Only if one of them gets disconnected from youtube and lose all her viewers.

>> No.11896597

>>11895515
41.21% of Nijisanji are under 1k (61 Streamers)
24.32% of Nijisanji are 1k - 1.99k (36 Streamers)
23.64% of Nijisanji are 2k - 4.99k (35 Streamers)
8.10% of Nijisanji are 5k - 9.99k (12 Streamers)
2.70% of Nijisanji are 10k+ (4 Streamers)
Total Streamers: 148
>>11896315
She had a karaoke stream with a lot of viewers iirc

>> No.11896732

What was the peak total ccv of niji among us earlier?

>> No.11896737

>>11895515
Does NijiEN wave 3 have a short honeymoon phase, didn't have one or are they still in their honeymoon phase.

>> No.11896765

>>11895880
Gura>kronii>Irys=Ina>Mumei>Ame>Fauna=Kiara>Mori=Baelz

>> No.11896811
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11896811

>>11896732
76k on the picture, mayybe 80k tops (didnt catch it)

>> No.11896826

>>11896737
I'd say that between Selen basically stealing the show at debut, and their absolute garbage choice of streams in their first week, combined with the short period of time between waves 2+3, that they have minimal to no honeymoon phase. I'd say wait a month just to be sure though.

>> No.11896829

>>11893050
Nijisanji had a very good summer. Do they have any winter events?

>> No.11896891

>>11896811
yea the EN one won't hit that. I'd say 50k, 60k tops.

>> No.11896910

>HoloEN overlapping Dream SMP
ngmi

>> No.11896934

>>11896737
By most accounts they didn't have one, since their views plummeted after the first day.

They do jump to double or triple their viewers when they do an original or special stream, but their regular numbers are pretty low to be "debut buffed".

>> No.11896961

>>11896597
>In other word~
61 literall whos
36 irrelevant peasant
35 resident
12 relevant resident
4 kings and queens

>> No.11896991

>>11896811
TIKTOK HOLOEN

>> No.11897088
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11897088

>>11896891
no way this wont go over 60k HoloEN mario kart peaked 70k+

>> No.11897168

>>11896811
Will HoloEN collab summed total numbers beat Niji collab summed total?

>> No.11897387

>6k waiting
>1k watching
susan please my numbers

>> No.11897533

>>11897387
Who?

>> No.11897538
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11897538

* Opening numbers for the collab *

>> No.11897672

Last waiting room numbers, missed Fauna's but saw 5k something turn into 1.8k
14,926 - gura
10,535 - kronii
8,626 - mumei
7,949 - Ina
6,669 - irys
6,833 - watson
5,992 - kiara
5,805 - mori
5,420 - Bae
~5k Fauna

>> No.11897804

>>11897088
That was myth + ID + IRyS wasn't it.

>> No.11897866

>>11897387
It takes some time to leave the waiting screen and go to the stream, sometimes YouTube doesn't do it automatically

>> No.11897930

>>11897538
Where is Mumei?

>> No.11898059

>>11897804
yeah and during JP prime time too. This among us collab is the first for NA prime time (primary audience).

>> No.11898207

So, over 80k to start off already, pretty good.

>> No.11898337
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11898337

>>11897930
Wasn't there yet

>> No.11898557

Selen dropepd from 1,750 to 1,300 viewers

>> No.11898698

>>11898557
25% drop

>> No.11898771

63k watching

>> No.11898780

>>11896961
>10k+
>kings and queens
That's like half of the Holos, anon. Royalties should be at least 20k.

>> No.11899090

>>11898337
Owl and clock going to be neck and neck.

>> No.11899114

>>11896829
Mario Kart, concerts (can't numberfag that), whatever random christmas collabs, new year.

>> No.11899299
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11899299

70k+

>> No.11899601

>>11899299
Tik tok nijikek

>> No.11899638

>>11899299
1 low tier HoloEN = 1 NijiEN gen

>> No.11899673

>>11899299
And here we see what each member can draw without shared viewers. This is pretty good information to have on hand.

>> No.11899694

>>11899299
Almost there to beat >>11896811

>>11897088 you where saying?

>> No.11899756

>>11898780
10k+ is such a small % of the streaming world, especially among vtubers, that it may as well be. Either that or figure out another tier between that and relevant.

>> No.11899805
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11899805

for some reason, Mumei's the only stream I'm getting recommended, through the main YT page and 4-5 different videos sidebar even

>> No.11900152

>>11899756
Nobles. Above plebians, but not quite the very top.

>> No.11900153
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11900153

HoloEN numbers

>> No.11900222

>>11900153
well that beats the niji collab.

>> No.11900288

>>11900153
shit mumei is actually higher than ironic, that one disappointed on mumei anon getting some hope right here

>> No.11900291

>>11900153
Jesus gura save some viewers for your friends

>> No.11900474

85k watching
HoloEN is dead

>> No.11900481

>>11900291
It's fine. She's not the NUMBERS BLACKHOLE that Kuzuha is.

>> No.11900516

>>11900153
UOHHHHH

>> No.11900667

>>11899756
3 Streamers 10k - 20k (Touya / Kanae / Lize)
1 Streamer 20k+ (Kuzuha)

>> No.11900691

>>11900153
Those are some good numbers.

>> No.11900822

>>11900667
I only see king and his three concubines.

>> No.11900867

>>11900474
so council debut numbers are their max cap. 85k - 95k

>> No.11900894

Can Gura beat Kuzuha's peak number? Is the imposter buff enough for her to reach 40k?

>> No.11900899

>>11900153
*****
Please note that these numbers include WAITING ROOM peaks, which will be higher since multi-tab culls don't start until the stream actually starts.
Using Holodex to check current LIVE numbers is more accurate (and gives a total of 80k+)

>> No.11900935

>>11900822
But they are men?

>> No.11900989

Ina's stream died

>> No.11901009

>>11900935
Did I falter?

>> No.11901035

Is this the new ranking for HoloEN? Ina is not the top 2 anymore.

>> No.11901038

>>11900894
Probably not, hell, not even Valkyrae coming back from some merch drama had Kuzuha numbers.
EN side is too nerfed on YT.

>> No.11901085

Wtf happened to Ina's Stream? Im on Kronii's

>> No.11901090
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11901090

>>11892627
>7589 :: 9687 :: 10 :: jp :: 月ノ美兎
end of an era. She has never dropped sub 10k median views

>> No.11901089

I counted 94.5k for all 10 EN streams. The wealth is shared through all the people, not Gura alone.

>> No.11901123

>>11900474
>>11900867
I swear Holos get evaluated way higher than Niji and yet they are compared like equals. I’m glad all the Nijiniggers stay on /vt/ so I don’t have to see them anywhere else.

>> No.11901170

>>11901085
She got booted from the room, so they're waiting until the round ends to restart.

>> No.11901454
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11901454

HoloEN numbers (update)

>> No.11901550

>>11901454
I'm bad at math, does this beat niji among us or not?

>> No.11901555

>>11901454
Gura carrying once again

>> No.11901674

>>11901038
Most of the people were watching mizkif

>> No.11901686
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11901686

>> No.11901723

>>11901550
It doesn't beat Kuzuha's ccv, but it beats total ccv. It's a 10 person game for both sides.

>> No.11901766

>>11901550
Yes, those numbers are a bit off since they've got the peaks from waiting rooms for some, but Holodex gave combined numbers ~83k last I checked.

>> No.11901771
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11901771

96k

>> No.11901862

>>11901454
>put in literally all of the work
>get the least viewers
being kiara is pain

>> No.11901988

>>11901771
Ina? What happened to her?

>> No.11902012

>>11901550
>>11901550
Kuzuha will be on top but if you count the participants, Kuzuha played with small fishes and HoloEN has a bunch of good performers. Will wait till the end though who knows what could happen.

>> No.11902028

>>11901771
I'M CUMMING BROS AAAAARGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.11902083

>>11901862
With her set of skills, she should be a manager, not a talent (since she has none)

>> No.11902088

>>11901988
her game is bugged, backscreen

>> No.11902172

>>11901686
The real numbers that matter

>> No.11902188

>>11901988
Her stream was offline for quite awhile. Expect it to pick up the pace

>> No.11902219

>>11901988
Her connection to the lobby got borked and now she can't get back in for some reason.

>> No.11902410

>>11901988
She's ruining the collab.

>> No.11902629

>>11901862
Sad for Kiara. But honestly, she's debuffed herself too many times that it's hard to not place some blame on her.

Same is happening with Ame but at least she still has some solo pull with her la creatividad streams.

>> No.11902662

>>11902410
That is Kiara.
Who at the same time has the lowest numbers in the collab.

>> No.11902805

>>11902012
90% of niji are small fish

>> No.11902900

>>11902805
More like 99%
Only like 5 people are relevant there

>> No.11902919

If Sana were streaming, she would be behind Kiara in numbers.

>> No.11902941

>>11901862
Ditch the fucking chicken voice.
No one can stand that high-pitched fork on a blackboard voice.

>> No.11902946

>>11901862
Well putting in work and seeing what she needs to adjust is the only way to scrape her way up.

>> No.11903040

>>11902012
HoloEN has its own small fishes... by Hololive standards at least.

>> No.11903089

>>11902941
KFP say that the issue is one of her mic settings and her sound settings are shit for her voice.
If anything that just makes the issue even MORE her OWN fault.
Fucking hell.

>> No.11903091

>>11902919
nah, come back buff will probably put her ahead of Kiara

>> No.11903216

if Gura gets imposter, can she get over 30k?

>> No.11903274

>>11903216
I think so.

>> No.11903278

>>11903091
Yeah saviorfags missed her, she won't be even the least.

>> No.11903308

>>11903040
We're judging the two right now on equal grounds and a collab with whos like mahiro are small fishes.

>> No.11903316

>>11903089
>>11902941
Yeah, Sui-chan managed to change her voice without much backlash, and it was actually good before.

If Kiara changes her voice for the better, it'd actually buff her.

>> No.11903354

>>11903216
For sure

>> No.11903614

>>11902900
It would be interesting to see the sponsorship spread among Nijisanji but that's way too much work to be worth it.

>> No.11903668

>>11903316
Not happening. Apparently the voice says the voice gives her confidence and that means that unless her coworkers literally stage an intervention, she's not going to change it. Ever.

>> No.11903779

>>11903668
>stubbornness
And that's how you become the queen of debuffs.
Same case for Matsuri.
Queens I kneel...?

>> No.11903815

Fauna, IRyS, and Kiara, are all about the same in numbers.

>> No.11904051
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Still holding 96k peak, i guess they won't get 100k

>> No.11904170

>>11903216
absolutely.

>> No.11904174

>>11901454
Last jp among us had higher overall and thats without marine and pekora

>> No.11904281

>>11904051
you know could just click the "ホロライブ" tag under the stream title and will filter only hololive.

>> No.11904558

>>11904281
Ohh okay thanks, I'm new to ikioi so i was clueless

>> No.11904574

>>11904174
My nijis got beaten so let's compare hololive against hololive.

>> No.11904783

>>11904574
Still wont beat kings numbers XD

>> No.11905049

>>11904574
It's only 7PM on the east coast but already 10PM in NY... and 1 PM in Sydney

... I actually don't know enough about HoloEN's audience distribution to know if this means they'll start inclining more, hold steady, or recline in the next hour as the east coast heads out for the night.

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HoloEN numbers (Ina #2)

>> No.11905175

>>11905049 (me)
7PM on the WEST coast i meant

>> No.11905253

>>11905049
IMO, if they didn't lose momentum with that mid-match restart they would've easily gotten over 100k.

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Already got 100k+

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102k

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11905803

101K

>> No.11905826

>>11905089
Impostor boost and and ina won the round

>> No.11905842

irys your five second delay is unwatchable

>> No.11906136

>>11905803
Kiara just died lets gooooooo ol
Will this boost their numbers lol

>> No.11906149

>>11905826
Ina normally gets high views in collabs. So Ina fixing whatever tech problem she had, would be a big factor in it. I would say Gura and Ina are top.

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11906757

Some NijiEN numbers

>> No.11906754

The Among Us collab somehow became more civil and better since Kiara was killed early LMAO

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>>11906757
Enna...

>> No.11907113

>>11906757
Holobros we got too cocky
If you get their total and multiply it by 25 then its 108k. It beats HoloEN Massive Collab oh no

>> No.11907275

>>11907113
Ah fuck. Someone is going to have to get graduated for this.

>> No.11907294

>>11907113
Oh nyo....

>> No.11907677

>>11906757
Wasn't Pomu the one that lost the most when overlapping with HoloEN?

>> No.11907854

>>11907677
Most Pomu fans are KFP so yeah.

>> No.11907935

If Gura gets imposter, she'll get 32k probably, but luck doesn't seem to be on her side today (both for numbers and in-game).

Still, 100k+ total is more than I expected for HoloEN.

>> No.11907964

>>11907854
they sure like mediocrity, insecurity and low numbers

>> No.11908064

>>11907935
Seems like Council actually expanded HoloEN. Or just got disaffected fans to come back.

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11908069

103k, not counting noel obv

>> No.11908175

Gura 29k.

>> No.11908266

>>11907964
They just like concernfagging. Also because Kiara and Pomu regularly interact on Twitter.

Kiara might actually have lost some fans to Pomu due to interacting with her lol. She should stop doing that.

>> No.11908392

Who have been imposters so far?

>> No.11908451

>gura tier
gura

>high tier
mumei
kronii
ina

>ok tier
mori
ame

>bottom tier
baelz
fau
irys
kiara

>> No.11908483

>>11908392
Ina x2
Mumei x1
Irys x1
Bae x1
Mori x1

>> No.11908510

>>11908392
bae, irys, ina, mori, ina, mumei, not sure if im missing one round

>> No.11908643

>>11908483
Damn my favorites never got impostors (Kornii and Gura)

>> No.11908654

>>11908483
>>11908510
This is correct. Theyve played 3 rounds so far.

>> No.11908940

>>11908643
Same

>> No.11909016

FAUNA IMPOSTER

>> No.11909031

IRyS always has good turnout for her streams but in collabs she gets destroyed, I guess she's a lot of peoples 2nd or 3rd favorite. Mumei and Kronii seem to have either brought in their own set of fans or converted some of the existing fans from other girls.

>> No.11909075

>>11908643
Without imposter, Kronii and Gura have been getting 12k and 26-28k the whole time.
Before getting Imposter, Mumei was 10k the whole time.
Anddddd Ina got imposter again for the final game.

>> No.11909256

>>11909075
Clearly the game is trying to compensate for disconnecting her. Still, 3 fucking times is hilariously skewed.

>> No.11909376

>>11909031
its because
>>11905842

>> No.11909382

>>11909075
Its literally IRyS and Ina again. What the hell is this!!
I want the doomer duo Kronii and Gura as impostors

>> No.11909441

>>11908069
HoloEN fucking flexing their numbers against NijiEN

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>> No.11909969

>>11909466
That's really low. Are NijiEN fans watching HoloEN right now?

>> No.11910012

>>11909031
Irys's 4-5k is what she usually gets without fail no matter the overlap in her timeslot.
However, she still gets good numbers for MC and karaoke when there's no overlap, which means she's most people's 2nd or 3rd option like you said.
Irys's timeslot and numbers actually mirror Flare's and a weaker Watame.
Their streams are late for their timeslot.
10k for karaokes and MC.
4-5k for other games when there's big overlap, which is JP every night.

>> No.11910031

>>11909376
Is she always like that?

>> No.11910124

>>11910031
Not usually this far behind, it's pretty odd
Also, my god the crewmates are bad when Kiara is left alive.

>> No.11910133

>>11909441
Jesus, why do you keep talking about NijiEN? It's been months already and we know that NijiEN will never gets holo numbers.

>> No.11910169

>>11909466
What is ghost doing?

>> No.11910350

I know we all talk about big numbers here, but here, how about extremely low numbers? Towa is finally doing a non-member watchalong.. of an apex pro apex tournament ! Watch in horror !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXzmRISdrWY

>> No.11910385

council just got mogged by myth lmao

>> No.11910419

>>11910133
nta, but it may be payback for all the shitting on holos and slow&steady fuckery they been posted

>> No.11910458

>>11910350
Gonna be sub 1k isn't it....

>> No.11910528

>>11910385
so IRyS > kiara now?

>> No.11910582

>>11910169
was a chat stream talking about membership emotes and stuff, just ended.

>> No.11910612

>>11910385
Gura aside
Mumei mogs Ina, anon
Kronii mogs the rest

>> No.11910814

>>11910419
They're all false flag holobronies.
There are barely anyone who actually watches Nijisanji ITT

>> No.11910852

>>11910528
>>11910612
im talking about the game anons...

all of council is dead

>> No.11910964

>>11910852
Lol okey

>> No.11911032

>>11910133
thread already hit bump limit...
Also its a confirmation that council expanded/ bought back the EN audience

>> No.11911131

>>11910852
You wish nijinigger

>> No.11911261

>>11910612
Meme masters are the strongest

>> No.11911480

Will this collab be able to garner more interest for Hololive?

>> No.11911541

>>11911131
>numberfag doesn't watch stream
typical

>> No.11911571

>>11910852
>called out for killing the council
shes honorably myth now. Kiara who?

>> No.11911692

Bored anons that feel like punching down.
Comparing EN and JP is pretty stupid because we all know JP's livewatching audience is so much bigger that it's usually a miracle when EN gets a night that has the total CCV of an average night for JP.
For EN, there's no one else to compare to except Vshojo and NijiEN, one is on a different platform with a different algorithm for CCV and the other is a pointlessly one-sided comparison.

>> No.11911751

>>11906944
Worst time possible to release this song

>> No.11912021

What happens to the clip economy from these big colllabs? Does it get a boost since people can spam 100s of 1 minute clips from one night?

>> No.11912133

>>11911541
Nope. I'm one of the 100k+ viewers, baby

So how's your 200 view streamer doing?

>> No.11912135

>>11911692
>one is on a different platform with a different algorithm for CCV
doesn't really matter. Numbers are numbers

>> No.11912172

>>11912021
Hololive takes over the algorithm more than usual again.

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>>11911692
because NijiEN is too midget to compare and the max they can get is 7k - 8k. Even this collab mogged NijiEN 80k but not HoloJP level (120k - 150k).

ranking would be
HoloJP > HoloEN > NijiJP

>> No.11912264

HoloEN AmongUs average ccv total: ~91k
Which also coincides with HoloEN debut numbers on average.

>> No.11912265

>>11912021
It's obvious that a fuck ton of clips will be made because it's all in English and the collab has a lot of funny moments. Those vultures are just waiting at this point to see who will be the fastest.

>> No.11912361

>>11912021
RIP NijiEN in the algo, gonna be a fuckton of HoloEN clips over the next week from just this collab alone.

>> No.11912424

Today's 2 most unfortunate 3 are probably Fauna, Kiara, and Sana.
Sana didn't stream and proximity chat meant unless she was next to someone, she had literally 0 presence during the collab.
Fauna and Kiara never got to be imposter so they had higher peaks in their waiting rooms than whatever they got during the streams.
>Kiara peak: 6.2k, actual peak during stream: 5.7k
>Fauna peak: 6.6k actual peak during stream: 5.5k
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/HuXDcwUflJU
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/qazuzvxL0e4

Luckiest is Ina.
Her stream died for 10 mins but she quickly recovered and got imposter 3 times out of 4 games.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/SKNvDgS0CjE

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Peak total ccv: 106k

>> No.11912461

>>11912361
>>11912172
Enna's original song got buried...

>> No.11912605

>>11912461
No one cared, apparently.

>> No.11912752

>>11912461
Yea...RIP Enna.
Speaking of originals...Mel...
Only at 45k after 12 hours. Gonna be rough for her song, but its more for her upcoming live.

>> No.11912860

>>11911541
Sorry, I'm watching the Dodgers

>> No.11912955

>>11912172
They can't keep getting away with this!

Fellow nijifans,how do we counter Yagoo's black magic fuckery? Do we have to do a satanic ritual? Do we have to sacrifice children?

>> No.11912969

>>11912752
I vaguely remember her Vampire cover getting the same numbers. Now its 500+k

>> No.11912973

>>11912752
Mel's covers get pretty awful numbers so 45k for her original is actually not that bad for 12 hours.

>> No.11913157

>>11912969
Vampire cover had the cover buff + her being a vampire buff.

>> No.11913179

>>11909466
Selen what happened?

>> No.11913315

>>11912216
replace Iofi with Peko and you'll get 170k easily

>> No.11913463

Full HoloEN Halloween collab next week. Expect more numbers depending on what the details are.

>> No.11913502

They will have a full collab again next weekend bros!!!

>> No.11913635

If HoloEN streamed on twitch atm, the top 30 would've been full of them. Hololive's streamer ecosystem is really good since they focus on having fun, being united and no dramas. Just entertainment, but fuck kiara though.

>> No.11913663

>>11912135
bilibli numbers mog everyone. Go bow to the Zhang if you want to be a numbernigger.

>> No.11913789

>>11913635
Why are you guys so angry with Kiara lmao
>>11913463
>>11913502
I wouldn't expect numbers this high again but yeah, we numberfags are happy again

>> No.11913838

>>11912216
Well Irys debuted around the same time as Edengumi, and her numbers now are much better than most of them and at worst, on par with Leos (but she still beats him most of the time), so there's that.

Speaking of the NijiJP Among Us collab, didn't Kuzuha literally get half of the total CCV with his 43k?
He was playing with a lot of midgets (I think 3 of them were below 1k), but damn that's insane...

>> No.11913962

Numberfags, Holoen amogus collab.
CCV in descending order.

>> No.11913977

>>11913789
they said it'll be on Halloween so it could be themed which could gain some attention

>> No.11914058

Pekora will also hold Among us collab if im not mistaken. The only confirm member that will appear is rushua.

>> No.11914062

>>11913789
NTA, but just slightly annoyed at how she feels the need to keep saying "I arranged this collab! Me!" Once is plenty, and she definitely deserves kudos for tard-wrangling these girls into a collab across all thee timezones, but her insecurity is pretty off-putting.

>> No.11914136

>>11914058
Rushia and Pekora are numbers midgets.

>> No.11914151

>>11912135
No one cares about Twitch, Billybilly, nnd, tik tok, twitter, facebook, milfdom, or whatever else. VTUBERs. Youtube.

>> No.11914185

>>11913663
they're in a different market. While holoEN and Vshojo share the same market

>> No.11914213

>>11913315
Iofi's stream was completely unrelated to the HoloJP among us collab that day.
If Pekora streamed at that time, she would've likely decreased some of the numbers of the collab.

>>11913179
Look at the game she's playing.

>> No.11914244

>>11912216
HoloJP has 7 gens (0, 1, 2, Gamers, 3, 4, and 5) and each gen has at least one member with 10k+ average CCV. The talent pool is bigger for JP than EN, so is the viewer pool.

>> No.11914284

>>11907935
>>11908064
Wouldn't you expect some views to be share/overlapping in something like Among Us?

>> No.11914313

>>11913838
He probably got the impostor buff. Gura didn't.

>> No.11914327

>>11914151
>no one cares about the biggest streaming platform in the world (the western world at least)
nice joke

>> No.11914363

>>11914185
People keep saying that even though it isn't true in the least.

>> No.11914384

>>11914058
Let me guess, Miko and Aqua won't be there because its pekora who'll host it
Botan, Towa and Gen3s are almost 100% sure then

>> No.11914402

>>11912752
Already doing better than Roboco's.

>> No.11914416

>>11912135
its important to take into consideration since different platforms count differently and have additional features. twitch raids can easily be the single cause of a peak CCV that wouldn't have been achieved otherwise

>> No.11914430

>>11914284
Youtube only counts 1 view. And only the active tab.

>> No.11914475

>>11914244
that collab didn't include the strongest of each gen though

>> No.11914567

>>11914416
use average view then, a much better metric than peak view anyway

>> No.11914620

>>11914284
Yes, but YouTube has had multi-tab culling for numbers for a while now, at least since last December. The graphs of viewers from various events that haveoverlaps like the Usaken summer fes, pmaru's number spike when her frame had been up for 30+ minutes but jumped as soon as the concert started, Marine's scuffed event where she had to stop and restart it etc.
It's one of the spam-view culling metrics that we know is in place on YouTube that isn't on Twitch.

>> No.11914651

So with this Among Us collab,what is the consensus for HoloEN's market at this point? Has the debut of HoloCouncil expanded or at least stabilize their viewer base?

>> No.11914676

>>11914430
you could use Jetri or use multiple browser instances

>> No.11914695

>>11914363
How so? Ironmouse didn't budge from 10k, her usual numbers

>> No.11914705

>>11914567
they still count differently and even though a raid will mainly affect peak view it still affects the average

>> No.11914724

>>11914058
Miko isn't gonna be there, so pointless collab. It needs Miko and Suisei so VT can cream its pants whenever one kills either of them or they get together.

>> No.11914747

>>11914567
Average view is sort of garbage, especially if there's a superchat reading portion.

>> No.11914758

>>11914651
It seems to have expanded it compared to mid year numbers.

>> No.11914813

>>11914620
Does that mean YT has a more accurate live viewing metric than Twitch?

>> No.11914823

>>11914705
so I could say Vshojo is bigger than HoloEN since you refuse to do any comparison

>> No.11914840

>>11914695
What isn't true is they don't share the same market. Twitch and Youtube vtuber ecosystems are almost entirely segregated, as are their respective audiences.

>> No.11914847

>>11914475
No Aqua because Coco is there
No Pekora because Miko is there
Its as good as it gets for strongest from each gen

>> No.11914849

>>11914313
https://playboard.co/en/video/MkW6ZR1pPDo
He was pretty much 40k+ for the entire stream so it didn't matter even if he got imposter.
If you're a Nijifan checking in on the big Nijievent and there's a Kuzuha stream, you just naturally gravitate towards his POV.
It happens every time, even with Gura today, but Kuzuha's gravity within NijiJP is like 10x bigger.

>>11914284
There's definitely a lot of overlapping viewers, but there is a lot of convincing "evidence" that youtube only counts 1 view per account at most and doesn't count you in the other streams as part of their spam blocker.
Look at >>11912424.
Kiara and Fauna had 6k+ people in their waiting rooms, but once the streams started, they never got close to their waiting room peaks. This was the case for everyone who got their peaks with imposter (Mumei, Irys, Bae...etc)
Your view doesn't get blocked in the waiting room, but once the stream starts, the blocker starts to verify views.

>> No.11914863

>>11914651
Expanded or at the very least it brought back viewers who were unsatisfied with Myth.

>> No.11914920

>>11914676
YouTube still only counts it as 1 view per device from what I've seen.
You could have one on your phone and one on a PC with 2 different accounts to count as 2 viewers.

>> No.11914926

>>11914823
You can do that if you want. Have fun with it.

>> No.11914988

>first full EN Collab
>Amogus
>have multiple 1 mil subs chuubas
>still can't beat a Tokyo Ghoul cosplayer
Rumao. EN in shambles, this is why Kuzuha is the KING

>> No.11914991

>>11914823
what? i was saying you need to take it into consideration when you compare different platforms due to counting differences and additional features that effect the numbers

>> No.11915005

>>11888284
Too bad China happened, and while Hololive itself is still apolitical, supporting Hololive means opposing China. Which is fine for normal people, but for businesses that means it can fuck shit up (See: AL, Muse Dash, Asus, etc...)

>> No.11915041

>>11914813
If Youtube removed everything BUT the multi-tab thing, it would be the most accurate site.

>> No.11915046

>>11914813
Youtube's is complete bullshit that leaves out up to 1/3rd of viewers. Twitch seems to be at least not deliberately suppressing their viewcounts.

>> No.11915130

>>11914676
Doesn't matter
YouTube also pays creators for their watched time so they are very rigorous about counting each viewer precisely

>> No.11915138

>>11914695
Her fans could watch the HoloEN collab on a separate tab while they mute her stream and it'll still counts toward as a view for them. That's how fucked twitch CCV is.

>> No.11915145

>>11914813
Accurate? Probably, since Twitch bots are a known thing, but it makes 1:1 comparisons....difficult. it's why j prefer looking at trends, that's where the real meat in numbers is.

>> No.11915208

>>11915046
That's because Twitch NEEDS their numbers to be high. They didn't even bother deal with bots until this year.
Youtube couldn't really give two shits about the streaming side.

>> No.11915259

>>11915005
oh wow. they must be struggling with sponsors right now.. oh wait..

>> No.11915267

>>11913179
One-trick pony.
That's why they need to get Mito's instead of Kuzuha's if they want long-term growth.

>> No.11915269

>>11914813
I don't know if youtube is more accurate, but they had to do something. Before they added the spam view blocking there were tons of crypto scam streams with 10,000's of viewers.
bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/fake-spacex-youtube-channels-scam-viewers-out-of-150k-in-bitcoin/

>> No.11915301

>>11914920
is it? I know that tab out views don't count but using multiple active tabs may be different

>> No.11915313

>>11915208
I mean, they went through the trouble to break it on purpose (probably). So they care, some. They could have just left it how it was an everyone except possibly advertisers would have been happy.

>> No.11915334

>>11914920
This works if you have different YT/Google accounts on your devices.
I've had music playing in the background from a YT tab suddenly stopped because I watch some random vod from my phone. I forgot exactly what the message said, but its somewhere around 'Playback from another device detected'.
Although I should add this was before I subscribed to premium, haven't had the same issue after i subscribed.

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>>11914813
I mean, if I'm watching 2 streams at once, I should be counted as a viewer in both streams.

Tab-out theory evidence is shaky, but it's hard to deny that there isn't some sort of tab fuckery going on when this happened.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/w4auNHelA-k

When Ame had only 15 viewers in her dead stream, chat was still flying on slow-mode and the moment she made a sound, 1000 people showed up in 5s. Look at that straight line up to 1k from 20.
That's not natural.

>> No.11915450

>>11915267
Finding a Mito is like finding a Gura.
Nijisanji lucked out with Mito as their first hire.

>> No.11915491

>>11915259
i'll never forgive the chinks for taking away muse dash

>> No.11915507

>>11914823
Apple and orange, anon.

>> No.11915554

>>11910458
its at 3k, and she has her viewers have another window open for the tourney, this is pretty good considering

>> No.11915609

>>11915259
When will Kronii get the KD sponsorship she deserves?

>> No.11915617
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>>11915435
Non-gosling pic for a better visualization.

>> No.11915692

>>11915609
I'm just wondering when the floodgates will open for Council in terms of sponsorships.

>> No.11915710

>>11912433
Oh thanks! I just woke up and roughly added the peak at the same moment on the ccv graph. That's very interesting to see Ina at 13k despite the scuff

>> No.11915760

Let's break away from Holo/Niji talk for a sec and talk about Kson instead. It seems her meme review right now is getting 11k. This might be a new L2D buff, but she is doing a lot of stuff that made her famous like meme reviews and morning show. She is also setting up this "Kson Gang" thing by actively seeking out indies to collab. My question is, will this be successful at all, and will these indies get some tourists or senpaitachi from it?

>> No.11915771

>>11915491
Muse dash was only relevant to Gura. I agree. She got the most numbers playing that game but she has recovered since then with minecraft chu

>> No.11915821

>>11915554
Heh. Better than I expected.
>>11915617
All this indicates to me is that if a stream is offline, YouTube stops counting users correctly and instead tries to cull to zero, likely as an anti-cheating mechanism for people starring streams, going 'offline' and farming watch time. Makes sense to stop someone from gaming the system, but ends up with wacky nonsense that we can see here (thank you holostats for your contribution to publicly available numberfagging)

>> No.11915851

>>11915771
i know i just enjoyed those streams and it's obviously a game she enjoys

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Today's superchats

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>>11915710
Ina's recovery from her stream being dead was really quick and she got to be imposter 3 times so she was actually blessed by the number gods today.

>> No.11915943

>>11915760
I remember some people saying around the time that Coco graduated/announced graduation that she wanted to help out indies but wasn't allowed to.
My guess is that's the "creative difference" people speculating on.

>> No.11916068

>>11915760
It's probably l2d buff + right after a big en collab buff (you bet your ass that there are people who likely got recommended it due to shared watchers)
As for boosting Indies, I hope so since let's be honest, Hololive is in a bit of a tricky spot to do it since accusations of leeching would come in from every direction, whereas Kson is uniquely positioned to do so with less issue.

>> No.11916094

>>11915865
fuck yeah jou-chan

>> No.11916117

>>11915943
Probably not since Fubuki collabs with literal 2views a lot of the time for TTRPG streams.
Kson was pretty clear with what she meant when she said creative differences imo.
She got tired of running everything through management and asking for permissions for every small thing. Cover was being extra cautious of her too in case of another yab so she was on a tighter leash than she was before.

>> No.11916255

>>11915554
This is better than most movie watchalongs and better than her and Matsuri's Apex tournament numbers sometimes lol

>> No.11916312

>>11916117
People will spin rrats about creative differences forever despite kson being explicit about what happened and that it was both hers and cover's problems.

>> No.11916414

>>11916117
Yea.
Unfortunately, the types that like to push boundaries but go over the line too much end up causing issues with management much of the time. Not uncommon to see the situation happen, and then the taiwan yab was what really sealed the deal, coming off of YT demonetization and the permissions holocaust. Management went too far, but its not hard to see what drove their actions. I think that's ultimately why Coco was able to get the send-off she was able to, because it was clear that management was in the wrong, but that they weren't malicious just incompetent.

>> No.11916532

>>11915943
What? She wanted to help indie? But why? She's only doing this now because she doesn't have anyone to collab. Remember she refused to collab with holostar.

>> No.11916592

>>11916532
>GFE
>collabing with Holostars
Great joke anon.

>> No.11916891

>>11906944
The song only starts after a boring 70 seconds story

>> No.11917023

>>11916414
Taiwan was the final straw but the first was the Asacoco episode where she did an accidental suicide reference where it looked like Kanata necked herself.
>>11916891
Are you fucking serious? That kills replay value.

>> No.11917134

>>11915760
''Kson Gang'' is not holomen so nobody going to give a shit.

>> No.11917439

>>11917023
>Asacoco episode where she did an accidental suicide reference where it looked like Kanata necked herself.
Damn i would wanna see that lol, have any link?

>> No.11917460

Man, if you are an animator and want to numberfag as much as possible, just do Hololive animation instead. There are a lot of them with high views.

>> No.11917545

>>11896811
From nijimado
43,008 Kuzuha
11,666 Mayuzumi
10,734 Ars
8,442 Leos
3,739 Amamiya
2,829 Riri
2,173 Lain
879 Kanda
742 Mahiro
408 Hajime
peak total ccv 84,620

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Median viewers considering Impostor rounds gets you a ton of viewers

>> No.11917633

>>11917439
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo_vWJvoFzE&t=1114s
Honestly funny AF, but given the sheer amount of negative press surrounding the whole suicide forest thing I really can't blame them for being just a tad cagey over it.

>> No.11917837

>>11917590
That's very good actually, a total of over 100k viewers across the group. This can only be matched by the top English IRL streamers in the world, but they use Twitch so numbers can be a bit contentious.

>> No.11917874

>>11917460
I wonder what the size of the "leech" economy is for Hololive. How much does having a large leech economy help a product.
>>11916891
Are you shitting me?

>> No.11917902

>>11916414
I mean, can you really blame the management? That Taiwan yab costs them a lot from business perspective, in fact I was surprised they didn't fire her. They put new rules and restrictions so the same thing won't happen again because unlike Nijisanji, Hololive got more eyes on them.

>> No.11917950

>>11917837
>over 100k viewers
I got 90k at best

>> No.11918010

>>11917902
Hololive's crime was that chinks actually loved them and wanted more and more hololive.

>> No.11918076

>>11917902
I can't blame them for being more cautious, I can blame them in that they handled it poorly. Its not the first time Cover's management has been incompetent, but at the same time boy were they understaffed. It's really not until this year that they finally look to have more adequate staffing, as before it wasn't uncommon for 3 or more talents to share a single manager, based off of what multiple holomem have said.
The Taiwan yab DID cost them business, but ultimately they'll be better off in the long run by being forced to minimize ties to China, much like cutting off a rotting limb saves the host.

>> No.11918147

>>11917950
>>11912433

>> No.11918152

>>11905713
>>11917950
Blindchama

>> No.11918153

>>11911541
I mean isn't that obvious considering that most posters in the thread are eops yet they keep talking about jp talents?

>> No.11918214

>>11918147
You were replying to >>11917590 though

>> No.11918448

>>11918152
>>11917590 (posts picture)
>>11917837 ("That's very good actually, a total of over 100k viewers across the group")
>>11917950 ("I got 90k at best")
Why do anons here like to pretend to be retarded so much?

>> No.11918556

So the NijiEN market cap is 15k and HoloEN's is only 100k

this is far closer than you fags make it out to be.

>> No.11918612

>>11918556
>15k
>Never ever hit 15k outside of debuts, even with combined CCV
Sure.

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>>11918448
>pretend

>> No.11918725

>>11918628
1.9k for an unarchived karaoke? That's pretty week. I was expecting like 2.3k.

>> No.11918776

>>11918612
HoloEN never got above 90k for their debuts. The debuts are lower than the market hit. If Pomu graduated she'd get at least 100k.

>> No.11918791

>>11917590
Pretty good, if you set Gura aside it doesn't look like Council are weaker than Myth when it comes to drawing numbers.

>> No.11918852

>>11918776
>If Pomu graduated she'd get at least 100k.
You wish. Didn't Lulu graduated to 11k
If Pomu graduated I bet she'll get 10k at best

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>>11918612
I love how you keep forgetting to include viewers from the nijisanji english channels when you post this number.

>> No.11918963

>>11918852
Lulu peaked at 180,959 which is when she talked about the stalkers being the reason she graduated.

>> No.11918990

>>11918898
>outside of debuts

>> No.11919010

>>11918556
NijiEN's cap is below 10k.
And saying 15k is close to 100k is pure idiocy lmao
Poor nijitards

>> No.11919023

>>11918898
he literally said outside of debuts retardchama..

>> No.11919072

>>11918990
>>11919023
I'm talking about 15k retardchamas...

>> No.11919084

>>11918963
*Stalkers causing her to have to take constant breaks from streaming due to Nijisanji policy
If Niji didn't, then the police and courts wouldn't take their cases seriously. If they don't do this and something does happen, they go up in hellfire as they get roasted alive by fans and the media for 'failing to ensure the safety of one of their livers'.
Ultimately Lulu felt that having to take constant breaks wasnt worth it and left because of it.

>> No.11919088

>>11918898
We're talking about streams outside of debut retard.
And the reason we call Ethyria failure is because they failed to get numbers higher than Obsydia and Selen is mogging them even with debut buff

>> No.11919126

>>11919088
>So the NijiEN market cap is 15k
What is this number is based on, retard?

>> No.11919191

Are you unable to understand what a market cap means?

>> No.11919211

>>11919126
Highest concurrent viewers across the entire branch without tourist traps like debuts or anniversaries. If we go by special event logic the market cap for HoloEN is 190k since that's what Gura's outfit reveal got.

>> No.11919226

>>11919126
Then HoloEN's Market cap should be 194k then right?

>> No.11919279

>>11919211
Yeah, so when they got 15k concurrent viewers outside of debuts then? And if it was talking about debuts after all why exclude viewers from watchalong stream?

>> No.11919336

I'm already getting recommended a ton of clips from the Among Us collab lol. Clippers are feasting.

>> No.11919456

>>11919279
NijIEN couldn't even get more than 9k in their collabs (most collabs even get a lot lower)
>>11919126
So NijiJP's Market cap is 205k while HoloJP's is 490k?
And NijiEN's is 20k while HoloEN is 190k?
>>11918556
Far closer than we think? Its 20k vs 190k faggot

>> No.11919457

>>11918556
>>11919279
See
>>11919211
Fucking retard

>> No.11919480

>>11919279
Oh right maybe you're using some braindead logic like "those who were watching watchalong came to watch Selen so they don't count". I guess I shouldn't underestimate the mind state of posters here.

>> No.11919581

>>11919456
NijiEN peaked at around 8.5k total when Selen did her phasmo collab and the rest of EN who weren't participating were streaming at the same time from what I remember. I don't remember if this was with 0 competition from Hololive or not.

>> No.11919639

nijiEN more like nijiCOPE lol

>> No.11919642

>>11919336
They're fucking animals. They need to make it count. If one of those bad boys goes viral then they can eat.
>>11919480
Debuts are tourist traps, are we sure all 25k of those people are willing to watch more than one stream?

>> No.11919717

>>11919581
Pretty sure NijiEN outside debut still didn't have 9k+.
It did peak around 8k and there have been overlaps (but it happened not during the 8k+ peak)

>> No.11919725

>>11919642
I just want you to use the proper number, why are you all freaking out so much? It's ok to acknowledge that you can't do math here, these threads have endured all kinds of folks.

>> No.11919760

>>11919642
If you include the watchalong on the debuts then the highest total would just be 20k-21k.
People were saying it failed to get to 20k because they're comparing it to Obsydia debut which also had a watchalong.

>> No.11919766

>>11919725
>don't use tourist traps like debuts and anniversaries they're not a way to calculate the market cap
>no no no use the proper numbers for their debut why can't you count
Why can't you read?

>> No.11919819

>>11919725
You still the same retard who said 15k is close to 100k? And thinks 15k is the market cap because Ethyria had it on debut?
Please don't further show us your idiocy

>> No.11919831

>>11919766
I can read the 15k number just fine, thanks.

>> No.11919905

>>11915865
>A.I.Channel

She's still relevant?

>> No.11919907

>>11919760
Oh look another one who can't count properly. Welcome.

>> No.11919980

Can we have a geographic for holoEN network?

>East coast? - Gura & Ame
>Canada - Ina & Kronii
>Japan - Mori & IRyS
>Australia - Sana & Rat
>Austria - Kiara
>Fauna & Mumei?

>> No.11920045

>>11919907
It's not about adding the watchalong numbers, it's about how debuts literally do not reflect the market cap
Get on the same fucking page

>> No.11920082

Stop arguing and talking around each other.You're both retarded.

>> No.11920170

>Nijifag Cope
Nijifag Cope
>Nijifag Cope
Nijifag Cope

>> No.11920215

>>11920082
>arguing and talking around each other
kys ESL

>> No.11920333

>>11920215
no u.

>> No.11920418

SC ranking for the HoloEN collab?

>> No.11920485

>>11920418
calli first, ina second. more than 1k

>> No.11920511 [DELETED] 

>>11919980
>Mumei
American West Coast
>Fauna
New England

>> No.11920525

>>11920485
Wait a minute, kiara got first. What the fuck. Mori second, ina third, gura fourth.

>> No.11920552

>>11920045
The debuts are more indicative of the market cap than some random 8.5k collab on a Tuesday.

>> No.11920656

>>11920552
Ok then (Market Caps are)
NijiEN = 25k?
NijiJP = 200k+
HoloEN = 190k+
HoloJP = 490k+
HoloID = 62k+

>> No.11920724

>>11920656
NijiEN 25k is so debatable. Let's see when they do a full cast collab with gen3 but I doubt it. They didn't get that high when they did that thing on the main channel with all 6 onboard.

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