/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>>11653533
Numbers don't lie. Men love cunny.

It seems NijiEN expanded their audience with wave 3. They used to get 5-6k CCVs in total but now they can hit 6-7k and maybe 8-9k if Selen is streaming. Is this the power of ESLs?

>>11653755
Gura even acknowledged the Ankha meme just now that it reached 10M. Power is power.

>>11653804
Too early to tell if they're going to pander

>>11653804
Would still probably wait for at least 2 weeks worth of data. At least for now I think the incline is more due to Selen sucking up viewers and most of Council having atrocious schedules. Everyone in Niji except Selen seems to share the same 4-5k viewership that just gets redistributed depending on how many of them are streaming. Not exactly a good thing especially with Wave 4 possibly coming in 2-3 months. Also, assuming debut buffs are still in effect, we might see lower numbers for wave 3 by this time next month.

>>11653533
Ah yes the only numbers that actually matter

>>11653804
their celing was alwasy 6-7k see the stream anoucne for wave 3
only selene can expand it and is the only one that doesnt lose views to pthers when they overlap

>>11653804
nope its still the same its the debut month buff. Their overlap CCV has always been around 5k-8k. Example
LazuLight month Elira avg 3k - 4k while overlapping with pomu or finana too.

They're really trying to grind those hours huh

>>11653533
>Hololive 79k
>Virtual Youtuber 129k
?????

>>11654516
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak. HoloEN is slacking at the moment and they're taking that opportunity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68Fbf4SSFk8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhZOywPYLNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tToFCeIzM6s

This will get scrappy.

>>11654575
Nijisanji exists Anon...
Though many of their fanart might not get posted to the boorus

Pikamee getting thousands of dollars in superchats for no apparent reason

Alright bros, I think we can just let Suisei have today. We don't need it. Nijisanji just has to go 12-0 the rest of the way to clinch the month.

>>11654640
eh she came back pretty recently so probably a good time to given it's an sc stream

>>11654607
I remember when Mori got 130k+ even with a 10 JP overlap in her outfit reveal, I wonder what Suisei numbers might get here

>>11654653
But Marine will return and ID will have new costumes. I think we need to make their pets sick to get 12-0 and also put Pekora on a coma

>>11654684
I definitely think it'll scrape 100k, especially with the hype of the album/live show. I don't think IRyS and Mori are going to hold more than 20k viewers hostage (for the first half hour at least).

>>11654599
Too bad, nothing could help them incline though. They don't have a Gura or a Kronii to carry a generation, the clipping magnet Holo.

>>11654764
I mean, you have to be relative. Selen is to NijiEN what Bora is to NijiKR, not enough to completely carry the brand but enough to keep it somewhat relevant.

>>11654764
Speaking of clipping magnets, how clippable is Selen? I know that Finana and Pomu tried to do some meme clips that didn't really gain that much traction after the initial release.

>>11654653
Kuzuha doesnt stream everyday so whos going to top them?

>>11654892
Doesn't seem too much of a clip magnet to me looking at the date intervals despite streaming all day in the week

>>11654708
The ID costumes will not beat Nijisanji. Marine's return isn't exactly a 30k+ stream so there is a chance.

>>11655018
In comparison with Kronii that doesn't stream all that much

>>11654892
She's pretty clippable. Her collabs have a lot of funny moments, and her solo streams have some highlights as well. NijiEN doesn't really have good dedicated clippers, though, and Selen puts out a lot of long streams so there's a lot to sort through for good content.

>>11655018
>>11655040
>>11654892
Better view one

>>11655069
Clippers are feasting on all the holo minecraft content right now.

>>11655092
>36 clips from that 1 mc stream

>>11655092
Someone managed to clip that bomb game before she privated it huh.

>>11655114
It's a positive reinforcement loop, isn't it? Clips can earn a vtuber a bigger audience, but clippers clip what gets them views - which is what's already popular.

>oct 20, 21, 22
>no relay
Predictions?
fo scale
Reine
>18,772 / 26,042
Anya
>21,511 / 30,111
Ollie
> 35,725 / 52,687
*30 min each
+relay buff

>>11655092
Oh yeah, there's fucking stats on Holodex for clips. How didn't I know about this?

>Gura (EN 1)
241 Videos
8221 Clips
190227772 Total Views

>Kronii (EN 2)
31 Videos
913 Clips
10344833 Total Views

>Irys (Vsinger)
80 Videos
1094 Clips
19190418 Total Views

>Pomu (Wave 1)
133 Videos
595 Clips
5282207 Total Views

>Selen (Wave 2)
97 Videos
406 Clips
6454259 Total Views

>>11644973
Anon I just woke up, you shouldn't have jinxed it

>>11655225
Interesting stuff! Here's some more:

Ina

289 Videos
3850 Clips
70,152,648 Total Views

Mori

324 Videos
3430 Clips
189,900,431 Total Views

Watson

398 Videos
4240 Clips
91,493,372 Total Views

Mori punching way above her weight, I'm guessing due to karaoke song clips? I know her Eminem raps get lots of views.

Pomu doing a shower stream copying marine&noel

>Like clockwork

>>11655408
Those total views aren't for clips. Those are her total VOD numbers and is in line with Holostats data

>>11655204
This positive feedback loop is one of the reasons why things are the way they are. It seems hard to break unless all the clippers agree not to do holo clips and do only non-hololive clips and somehow not have a million clippers show up to replace them.

>>11655415
Can it break 10k i wonder?? Noel&Marien broke 70k right? Pomu should at least aim to get 1/7 of their numbers

>>11655450
Ahh, that makes sense.

>>11655038
>Marine's return isn't exactly a 30k+ stream
Marine can get 30k streaming normally. Not as reliably as Pekora but it wouldn't be a surprise

>>11655456
Add in the fact that clippers are doing <2min meta for clips or shorts for the algo. Niji can pump as many chuubas or streams as they want, but they don't have the same level of exposure as Hololive in Youtube. Best to take them on Twitch where it's easier to see them using vtuber tags.

>>11655571
Can't they pay Susan to bias the algorithm? I mean they have already sunk more than 500k into NijiEN so there is no harm in trying to win the war.

>>11655596
It would have to be an ad campaign, right? Running clips of a funny moment as a preroll, I wonder if it would work. Sounds more interesting than the usual vtuber ad anyway

>>11655596
>>11655670
It doesn't work like that. YT AI is neutral, they don't care about your feelings nor Susan. You either hack the algo or die trying. Ads doesn't help either, new viewers would rather watch chuubas with betters numbers than niji when it comes to popularity.

Why is no one clipping Niji at all, even Selen?

>>11655774
Time is money, right? Say it takes 1 hour to make a clip (I don't know how accurate that is). If your previous experience shows that a clip of Hololive will get 100k views, and one of Selen will get 50k, and it takes the same 1 hour to make, what would you do?

>>11655774
clippers like numbers just like us so they don't clip niji

>>11655670
Usual vtuber ads are cringe as fuck. They all do the same shit.
>some cool images
>flash of characters saying something dumb
>shit as music
Seem like VN PVs.
>>11655774
NijiEN doesn't put bread on the table. Clippers know what side their bread is buttered on. One bread in hand is better than two in the bush.

>>11655797
>If your previous experience shows that a clip of Hololive will get 100k views, and one of Selen will get 50k, and it takes the same 1 hour to make
That explains it for the “mercenary” clippers but there is a huge segment that takes up clipping to highlight their oshis and push them forward.

Given that, for that segment, the question still stands

>>11655415
for shower stream you could have thrown
Tamaki
Aki
Matsuri
Subaru
...
at the (copying) part, because it's a pretty common stream format, at least for Twitcast.
The main standout of the Marine/Noel/Kanata stream is that it was a collab shower.
Which still had the Choco/Ui+guests streams preceding it.

>>11655864
More people have HoloENs as their oshis than NijiENs. Also it is still a business, not everyone is like that creepy mental patient Lyger.

>>11655864
nijiEN fan base is already small so you'll have less clippers too, pretty sure most of them are actual 2views if they aren't part of the clipper discord cartel.

>>11655415
Mito did a shower stream back in mid-2019, could be similar to that. Unless it's another COYA stream.

>>11655864
First mover advantage in the west, perhaps? Also, though it may not be a popular opinion to some, the whole "Idol company" mentality does contribute to making Holos more of gachikoi magnets. Wanting your oshi to better herself and reach that big idol stage at the end of the summit is a real big draw for a lot of fans. Prime examples are Subaru, Suisei, and Mori. Even Gura has said one of her biggest dreams is to perform in 3D. Niji on the other hand markets themselves as streamers with an avatar as unfair as that might sound. There is no draw. The difference between Hololive and Nijisanji is the same difference as watching an Anime and watching a twitch streamer. Not to say watching twitch streramers are bad since I do have some non-vtuber go to streamers that I like watching but there is a tangible difference.

>>11655222
>not a relay
less than 20K except for maybe Moona

>>11656168
If it's not a relay, then Iofi fucked up her scheduling on the stream because right now she's an hour after Moons according to schedule.hololive.tv

>>11656199
You sure it isn't Moona just doing some sort of pre-reveal show, or that Moona didn't schedule it wrong? Looks like they're supposed to happen at 22:00 JP time, and Moona has it at 21:00

>>11656199
huh, Moona's is supposed to be on the 22nd

>>11656199
>moona fucking up her sched
>blame iofi anyway
Nice

>>11656247
>>11656270
Ehhhhh, Moona pls...

>>11655910
Is that type of creepy mental patient like Lyger that made Hololive clips popular to begin with

>>11656303
Mercy!
In my defense I associate costume reveals = 21:00 JST, and I hadn't double checked the actual JP news article for the times.

>>11654516
>a shitty alien game
why not just play back 4 blood?

>>11654713
I don't think Suisei has ever gotten a 100k stream before but my memory might be terrible.

>>11656312
Nah, most of them were (and still are) content in being behind the scenes and doing their things.
Lyger serves as clipper, translator, gachikoi and resident pitbull. He’s more like “Brad Howard” for Haachama, except he also clips

>>11655038
Anon, Marine's return will get 60k MINIMUM. It could go even higher.

>>11655774
Reminder that one of the bigger Hololive clippers, Sodafunk, used to call Hana Macchia his waifu and exclusively posted clips of her.
Clippers want that $$$ and they know Hololive brings in the views. NijiEN needs Chink level of gachikoi that will clip them for free expecting nothing in return

>>11656570
That doesn't mean he was a Nijifag. A lot of people watched Hana when pretty much the only choices for decent EN speaking vtubers were her and Natsumi Moe. A lot of people moved on when more options became available.

>>11656632
>when pretty much the only choices for decent EN speaking vtubers were her and Natsumi Moe
Then Hana Macchia made her BIG BET
>incinerated her EN speaking audience
>went full speed ahead after the indo one

I for the life of it will never understand why.

>>11656412
Yes. Her highest CCV stream should be this one, the karaoke after Coco's graduation.

>>11656416
Lyger has also translated for stuff in the main Hololive channel iirc, his name should pop up in the credits for some of their translated videos.

>>11656809
What a crazy day that was, even another major graduation probably wouldn't be the perfect storm of huge numbers that Coco's was

* NijiEN day so far *
Not a bad day but clearly showing the strain to max the 8k audience they share among them

what would be realistic numbers for holoid1' s 3d debuts? im thinking around 50k or is that too high?

>>11656809
That was a good day for numberfags, I hope we'll get to see another event like that some time

>>11657037
It might be too high for Iofi and Risu but for Moona it's highly possible

>>11657011
going by vod views it seem that their max reach is around 40k for most excpet selene who cna get a lot more than that.
would also epxlain why their subs have pretty much frozen at this point.

>>11655910
Lyger barely even does anything anymore and his channel is super dead compared to earlier due to the massive wait between uploads. He just spams kawaii in Matsuri's chat instead of promoting her.

>>11657164
isn't he a mod/translator in Matsuri's channel though?

>>11657173
Take out the translator part on her chat and you got it, though he does provide translation for the official Hololive channel sometimes.

Why is Lyger so much hated here?

>>11657357
he's a translator who doesn't translate

>>11657357
Lyger helped contribute to the hate that got directed to Matsuri, he also made a program to stalk her.

https://panora.tokyo/archives/35440

>>11657415
>https://panora.tokyo/archives/35440
Kinda sad seeing Oyabun being the only remnant left of the old 4 kings era in the top 10. Assuming Vtubing and Hololive as a whole doesn't tank, I wonder how long it'll take for the entire top 10 to be composed of all Hololive talents? Maybe 2-3 years?

>>11657415
>>11657415
Machine translation summary:

On October 19, User Local announced that the number of virtual YouTubers (VTubers) registered on its web service "User Local Virtual YouTuber Ranking" has surpassed 16,000, up from 13,000 last November.

Of the 16,000, the top 10 and their channel subscriber numbers are as follows. All of the top 10, except for Kizuna Ai, are talents who belong to the office under "Hololive Production".

>>11656809
https://youtu.be/JNmmnB4bP0M
This one actually. Was really close but still didn't reach it.

>>11657391
>he also made a program to stalk her.
menhera oshi - menhera fans

>>11657549
>Kinda sad seeing Oyabun being the only remnant left of the old 4 kings era in the top 10.
It's sad but for the opposite reason. Her being at that position (and sloooooooly declining from it) is the only reason they keep propping up her corpse and kicking it around to try to milk a few extra dollars from it.

This reminds me of them rotoscoping Fred Astaire dancing with vacuum cleaners in 1997 to sell gizmos on a superbowl ad.
https://apnews.com/article/253758edc00908fc9f65d30cd7e6c4b2

Should let the man rest and his legacy stand

>>11657781
What is NFT and why Nene's and Lamy's mama also promoted it?

>>11656809
Actually is this one. She got really close to 100k.

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/JNmmnB4bP0M

>>11657829
You remember beanie babies?
NFT is the digital equivalent of that, except without the physical element so you're basically paying huge sums of money for a png that theoretically will increase in value in the future but we all know how beanie babies ended up

>>11657865
>never experiences any significant loss in viewers
how does she do it?

>>11654516
When everything isn't just handed to you, you have to work for it.

>>11655222
>>11656168
then this won't beat Ollie's huh?

>>11657891
>how does she do it?
>be Sui-chan

>profit

>>11657980
Suisei paid her dues man. Looking back 2-3 years ago she’s come a long way.

>>11658015
i know Sui's story.
just talking about current situation.

>>11654814
Selen isn't really comparable to Bora. Bora is an order of magnitude more popular than the entire rest of her branch combined. She's not carrying it, she effectively is the branch and everyone else is left in the dust. As far as I know she barely streams in Korean. Hana Macchiato was sort of like this for ID too, the only real show in town, by the dumb luck of being a clippable English speaking vtuber at the start of the boom.

Selen on the other hand is roughly 150-200% more popular than the other ENs, depending on who it is and the stream. Big sure, but not overwhelmingly so.

Why are western whores inclining?

>>11658131
i dono twitch meta

>>11658131
They have no competition

>>11657091
They need to get Pekora to go to the ID server the week before and have adventures, and have Iofi and Risu stream more and interact with JPs and ENs to build hype. Of course they won't do that, Iofi will keep streaming random crap in Indonesian and Risu probably won't stream at all until the outfit.

>>11657357
Ascended fan, people are always gonna be jealous of them, also he's kind of a weirdo.

>>11658131
Idonmouse got a boost from the Twitch leaks actually and people started donating and watching more
Nyanners got featured on Twtich home page a week ago for what i understood to be a sponsored strea. Retained some of that audience
Veibei's still steadily inclining, she was set to become the new top if not for the other 2 getting boosted
Melody - short dip but mostly stagnating
Silver - Live2D version reveal
Zen - comeback after a break and low period boost

>>11658131
Consistent streams (i.e. them & Gura) vs too much nonsense (Ame)

>>11658180
I don't think that's true

>>11658265
>Risu
>not killing her vtuber career
pls pick 1,anon

>20 days to a million
I thought this was meant to be the FOTM?

>>11657829
>What is NFT
Non fungible tokens. Here is the short explanation for it

1) In the art world, specially in the "contemporary art" world, the work of art in itself doesn't have an intrinsic value.
>pic related
A banana taped to a wall sold for 120,000 dollars. That particular banana has no intrinsic value, as it has to be replaced every so often (because it spoils) and nor does the tape because it also needs to be replaced when the banana is replaced.

Soooo, the "artwork" in itself has no value. Then what makes this "work of art" valuable to the point people are willing to pay 120 grand for it?
>THE CERTIFICATE OF AUTHENTICITY

The certificate of authenticity is a notarized piece of paper that says this particular "work of art" is the one that was first exhibited at so and so museum, whose authorship is by so and so author which sold it to so and so, the current owner.
The banana has zero value. The tape has zero value. Even the fact that there is a banana taped to a wall has zero value.
This piece of paper tho, it's worthy 120 grand.

You may think it is stupid with all this banana and tape and everything else but the same goes for a Picasso painting, or a Rodin sculpture or anything else in the world of art.
Even if you can get your hands on a stolen original DaVinci painting without the certificate of authenticity proving both that it is an original painting and that it belongs to you at most you sell it to a dodgy private collector that will pay you a fraction of the value.

* ENTERS NFT *
Taking in consideration that the banana has no intrinsic value, the tape hs no intrinsic value and, yet, the certificate of authenticity and ownership can actually find suckers wealthy enough to part with a significant amount of money for it, the same scam artists of the artistic world found the digital version of the same
>what if we could sell a certificate of authenticity and ownership for THE NYAN CAT?
They glued this concept on the "blockchain" concept, another current fad and quite literally started selling certificates of authenticity and ownership, signed through some sort of blockchain, to rare Pepes (again, not even kidding).

Then they pull the oldest trick in the art world
>THEY THEMSELVES BUY THEIR OWN NFTs FOR AN INFLATED VALUE
and then it generates headlines like
>Rarest Pepe NFT sells for 120k
and then the suckers pour in the market, thinking it is a great value to buy it at a discount of only 90k to try to sell at a profit.

And that's, kids, is how NFT babbies are formed.

>>11657891
She had guests from start to finish in that one.

>>11659403
You already had me despairing about the state of the world at "banana taped to a wall = art" but you just had to keep going.

>Here are all the streams by Hololive English started in the past 48 hours
Something weird is going on in that branch

>>11657781
Gotta milk the remaining Ai fans of their money

>>11659562
Sunday/Monday have always been pretty light for EN.

>>11659553
>You already had me despairing about the state of the world at "banana taped to a wall = art" but you just had to keep going.
kek, that's not even the whole story.

>some other artist showed up in the museum and ATE the banana
>they replaced the banana and the artwork STILL is valued at 120k
and, here is the most despairing part
>the "act of eating the banana", done by that other artist, IS ALSO CONSIDERED A WORK OF ART

>>11659579
That's exactly what the council was brought in to solve

>>11659603
the phrase "work of art" is worthless now.

>>11659654
>now
kek, Dadaism formally killed it one hundred (100) years ago

>>11659622
Too bad nobody told them about that

>>11659718
Post-modernism has been a disaster for the human race. Take us back.
Also, it looks like Moona fixed her frame and it's gone from tomorrow.
30 minutes out, and there's about 3.4k waiting for Mori x IRyS and 5.6k waiting for Suisei. Do note that waiting rooms aren't subject to YT's culling of multi-tabs/tab-outs/Adblock etc.

>>11659967
Assuming Suisei does a 30 minute reveal, Mori and IRyS are gonna really profit from the outflow.

>>11659967
Waiting numbers is useless on jp streamers because jops dont usually come till stream start

>https://youtu.be/DBE8diMB000
I saw her over 14k a few minutes ago

Smart Miko, being the "waiting room" for the special streams got her 20k

>>11660511
Thanks anon, live-ranking is tracking it

Miko has always been there to support and boost her friends.

Suisei opened to a 25k waiting room and Miko didn't even release her 20k yet
>PREDICTIONS?
Over/under on 70k

I say it beats 70k with ease

nice one, Susan

>>11660736
Oh wow, Suisei just got Susan'd. Fortunately it happened early bit wow, talk about bad luck.

Fuck you Susan

SUSAN YOU COCKSUCKING WHORE

>>11660521
Miko might be the waiting room but Corsa seems to buff her regardless

45k on a niji premiere right now

>>11661060
Another wave?

>>11659562
Why does everyone make fun of nijiEN when holoEN has terrible numbers too?

>>11661178
Because you're retarded

>>11661178
Try comparing them bro and you'll see that even holoEN SC Reading mogs most of the NijiEN

well it looks like horse gacha girl will take it for today.

>>11661060
Premieres don't count.

>>11661060
I think it's Fuwa/Kenmochi/Kaida/Kagami commentating on irl island footage

>>11661251
I mean yeah, it doesn't count but i doubt it'll beat suisei's numbers anyway

>>11660926
>>11660891
>>11660930
>>11661018
That’s not the regular “Susan’d”, it seems to be a new “tripwire” which kicks in when the incline is too steep, which rechecks a batch of viewers.

Happened yesterday to Pekora as well.

>>11657781
Idk man, to me it's kinda like Hatsune Miku
She's not as relevant as she was, but no way near the "Death" level that anons outside of Japan think

>>11661227
I mean okay nijiEN has bad numbers but non-gura holoENs are flopping hard too

>>11661285
While it won't count, 55k+ for a premiere is pretty ridiculous.
That's literally more than any Nijistream this month by an extremely wide margin.
Wonder if any Nijifags can elaborate on what's the cause behind the numbers.

Damn Calli and Irys really took the worst time to do their Collab karaoke.. Kinda disrespectful to suisei too, could have started it an hour later, would have been way better for numbers. 19k for a offline karaoke Collab is terrible.

>>11661382
Yeah because they are totally getting three digits-oh wait they aren't.

>>11661239
Elaborate?

>>11661319
>>11660736
What's the average for the other holo outfit reveals?

>>11661412
It's four guys having fun, that's all. Fangirls would flock anyway.

>>11661412
Still cant holoalt numbers kek

>>11661319
No the stream dropped for a few seconds, it's definitely a connection issue

>>11661438
It's weird, maybe they're at the studio and this is the only slot they could reserve.

>>11661455
http://ikioi-ranking.com/category/vtuber

She hit 100k.

Yea I know its basically the company channel, but its still listed as a vtuber.

>>11661319
>>11661503
Yea, the stream straight up went offline for a few seconds, refreshed to check and it said 'offline'.

>>11661382
>non-gura holoENs are flopping hard too
>Kiara getting her JRPG numbers on a SC reading stream
>Mori getting 11k on a rebroadcast of her karaoke last week
>Fauna Fall guys getting 9k
>Bae getting 5.6k for a zatsu in JP hours
>Mumei 6.6k for part 3 of Zelda game
Where are the flops?

Ez 50k

MorIRyS is also at around 20k

>>11661412
They baited numbers with a silhoulette thumbnail and made the title ?????? for some weird irl deserted island thing.

>>11661438
Its studio so they reserved this shit in advance. If anything its Suisei's new outfit that came out of nowhere

>>11661438
Jops not going to watch them and enfags only watch engags so whats the point

>>11661478
Ikioi and Holodex aren't tracking its numbers, can someone give me an update?
I don't want to give free views lol

>>11661507
It's definitely a scheduling issue, Subaru mentioned that the studio is booked all the way to November back at the start of last month, and also appearently they only have the one.

morirys couldve had more if they streamed at literally any other timeslot fuuuuck

>>11661538
stop chatting shit, that doesn't count.

>>11661538
what the fuck

>>11661538
It's a bunch of actual people though, I don't think that really counts.

>>11661570
No need, it's a premiere

>>11661568
>Jops not going to watch them
Oh look its another last samurai who thinks JOPs and jpsies are one and the same

>>11661603
Their fault for trying to compete with the one true Vsinger

>>11661704
Eh if it goes on for more than one hour it'll catch the outflow

>>11661438
Suisei's stream will be just 1 hour long. IRyS will catch the outflow after that

>>11661603
They reserved and scheduled this way before Suisei

>>11661824
If it's anything like Suisei's last reveal, she'll show the outfit in the next 5 minutes.

>>11661603
You need to book a studio like months in advance idiot

>>11661897
Holos generally show it at the 40 minute mark don't they?

>>11661438
Imagine if Suisei hopped on their off-collab and sing a few songs.

Suisei looks to be having a 62k footing before the outfit tease rush.
It'll beat her previous costume for sure, but if I'm being completely honest, Noel's 100k kinda made me hope Suisei had a chance for it too since she's got a lot more popular this year.

>>11661980
That would be pretty crazy, not sure they're at the same location or not though.

>>11662000
Depend

Noel tease the shit out of hers, so if Sui does the same thing, ,then maybe

>>11661897
>>11661959
Looks like I was right. Also, Mori just confirmed they're at the Cover studio, don't think they had much of a choice when it came to stream time today.

>>11662000
Noel 100k cause new way to show off boobs.
Suisei...

>>11662000
Maybe not

>>11661897
Please, suichan! Learn how to tease! This is an easy 100k if you just hold for a bit!

>60k

THAT'S RIGHT PEKORA

SENPAI IS BACK IN TOWN

NOUSAGI ON SUI-CIDE WATCH

>>11662000
Noel has massive tits.
You underestimate the coomer buff

>>11662000
Suisei doesn't have the coomer audience.

If you have IRyS tabbed out with the sound on and are watching Suisei muted which does youtube count?

They literally just confirmed this on stream so you overlap nigger can shut the fuck up now. Studio bookings need to be booked in advance and they clearly did a long time before Suisei's outfit got announced.

>>11662000
not gonna happen. MoRys is taking 20k

>>11662118
Comet, yt only counts the active tab

>>11654225
Male wave brings in a different audience. Last wave will be the experimental mentally ill/transgender wave to get those twitterbucks.

>>11662118
Suisei, assuming you've interacted with the window in some way just to make sure (volume, chat)

55k for Ninisanji, I guess they take number 1 for the day

>Schoolgirl? Sunday dress?
Numbers are climbing

>>11662249
>premiere
kek do nijiniggers reallY?

>>11661980
She needs to end at 1 hour because others JP aren't streaming because of her

>>11662249
Who niji? Suisei is in 70k right now anon

lmao, suisei is a top tier numberfag

>>11662084
I was mistaken, I'm sorry Suisei....

>>11662249
1) Premieres don't count
2) Suisei has 74k rn

Sasuga Suisei shilling her sololive during her costume reveal kek

>>11662261
The numbers aren't the only thing rising

>>11662000
When will you fags learn that Noel always cleans up during big events?

maybe it can hit 80k? Think below 85k will be the top.

Susei is so good at this shit. 75k baby!

That is one ugly sweater

Suisei 76k
IRyS 22.5k

Look Watame, that is how you shill your stuff

>>11662249
>check video
>fishing and hiking in real life
I thought these were VIRTUAL livers

>>11662249
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>Uses the chance to promote her live in front of 75.000 people
This woman is a treasure.

It's her Kakero outfit

This suisei new outfit has the potential to hit 100k if not for the overlap.

>>11662488
Hey!
I'm personally a fan.
Also, Suisei doing a master-clasa in outfit teasing. This is how you do it!
Also, 80k get.

>>11662551
+removable aran sweater

Suzy at 80k

Kek

80k on an outfit reveal...
Hololive I kneel

SHE JUST KEEPS MOONING

PEKORA IS OVER

eh noel did it better, she got 100k

if the callirys live wasn't going on it could have hit 100k...

>>11662650
She still has 20 mins left so she blew her load too early.
Probably has a shitton of accesories and hairstyles, but the number likely peaked.

I saw 82k. Anybody got a screenshot?

TWO (2) OUTFITS

82k damn if it wasn't for the Calli and IRyS collab it would have hit 100k imo

Alternate color damn

>>11662747

>>11662650
82.4 highest i saw.
Holostats recorded 82,847
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/68Fbf4SSFk8
she probably won't get more for the alt version

Based susie doing a double whammy

>>11662762
Maybe, maybe not, but since they're at the studio the kinda had no choice since that shit does need to be booked ahead of time, as others have said.

I like this one better

>>11662762
no. deadbeats dont watch susei

105 short of her record...

IT'S RISING AGAIN

>>11662793
Suityan really doesn't know how to numberfag. Could have gotten 100k if she announced she was getting 2 outfits.

>>11662732
If you think that everyone watching IRyS/Mori would be at Suisei's stream

>>11662901
She did though

>>11662762
Nah theres no big overlap.

>>11662835
Yeah but they did say it was 2 hours earlier and only tweeted today that they read it wrong. So who knows if they fucked up the booking

Hahaha fucking master shiller

>>11662901
She did though, you just can't read it

>>11662901
>she announced she was getting 2 outfits
Well it's literally on the title.... Also holy shit delinquent outfit

Fucking kek I kneel Suityan

kek i fucking love this girl

i kneel to this selfshilling

>>11662547
She did it again!
My God, she's gonna sell those tickets, 83k people this time.

>>11662882
>https://holo.poi.cat/stream/JNmmnB4bP0M
Naw

Ahahahahahaha, she used the face reveal as advertising, this woman....

>>11662901
Okay I take it back. This mad woman knows how to shill!

God damn Suisei is a queen of self promotion.

Suisei 83.2k
Irys 22.9k

83k

i kneel

let's see how much MoRyS karaoke will increase

>>11663253
More like will lose. With Suisei done, everyone will start streaming, and there's no reason to watch a karoke when you can just hit up the archive later

theres no big overlap between the two fanbases. if the streamer is popular she will get 100k+ even with HoloEN or HoloID overlapping. The same for the other branches

Oh... Suisei's costume isn't by her original (well, I guess new) designer.
Welp looks like that faggot still hates Cover.

>>11663644
Too bad for him then

>>11663644
Well, either they really wrong them, or cover is asshole, or both.
Regardless, these new outfits are good, so not a major loss.

>>11663644
The artstyle is similar enough that I didn't realize that the designer is different

>>11663644
Purease understand
Jap male artists are all menhera schizos, with the exception of like, 4 people.

>>11663738
>>11663777
Yeah, good riddance.
This is a good sign actually since it means the talents can branch out to different mamas for costumes if they get unfortunately abandoned and not have to go through an entire redesign like Miko did.

>>11663885
Of course they can, do you think they would just never get a costume again?

>>11663644
His loss then, considering Suisei's popularity, i wouldn't be surprised there's plenty of illustrator lining up to be her mama.

>>11663644
I'm late to this but there's a reason?

>Play king's game
>And is gonna mog king's numbers next?
What did she mean by this?

50K viewers

>>11660511
qrd?
I feel like I've seen her here before.

>>11663976
The only case we've had is Miko, who went through a complete redesign.

>>11663357
The number is still only going up...

25.6k
IRyS got +2.4k so far

>>11664022
No clear reason, only narratives.

>>11663777
>Well, either they really wrong them, or cover is asshole, or both.
Maybe Cover is an asshole but in the company I manage we blacklist troublemakers no matter how talented.

Market is small and everybody knows everybody. Anyone not mentally fit gets sidelined very quickly

>>11664022
Its all just speculation on why he doesn't wanna work with Cover anymore, some point it to what happened with Mizuryu Kei but could have nothing to do with it as well.

>>11663644
Guys a big nijifag anyways.
Loses out on a lot of money for being dumb about it.

>No more physical tickets left
Not that we didn't know already since they implemented a lottery to limit the buyers, but this is the closest confirmation we'll get that she sold out a (half-capacity) venue.

>>11664096
>Play your game and beat you
Holy brutal...
How heartless is this rabbit?

>>11664154
haachama?

>>11664096
She's going to show who's the real king

>>11664279
He doesn't like or retweet Niji stuff either.
He only likes KAMITSUBAKI STUDIO and Kojima.
Whatever beef he has with Cover must be quite deep because he is an intentional negligent papa.

>>11664347
The video of a nousagi using the Pekora RPG launcher inspired her.

>>11664096
>>11664347
Nah its past her main timeslot and there are a lot of good streams so i don't think the rabbit can get 30k+

>>11664396
Honestly forgot Hachaama's gothic costume isn't her base.
A quick glance at her mama's twitter shows that she still retweets Hachaama stuff so she's not abandoned the same way Miko and Suisei were.

>>11664096
too bad kuzuha isn't streaming Apex. Would love to see them going at the same time

>>11664542
Miko hated her old outfit anyways.
If I recall there’s an old clip where she blames her outfit for being part of the reason she’s unpopular.

Suisei
418k yen

>>11664281
Eiiii fully booked venue baby.
Now if that means half capacity or full capacity, who knows.

>>11664649
hard to say. It's clear she has a bit of ptsd from that time, so it might be a case of hating the outfit because she associates it with that time rather than the outfit genuinely being bad (it isn't really).

>>11663777
>Well, either they really wrong them, or cover is asshole, or both.
If you do business with artists you'll come across a couple of menhera

Very good day for Nijisanji, it seems they will take a majority of top 10 spots today.

>>11664281
Do we know if Watame sold out her tickets?

>>11664797
It's like people forgot about Mizuryu already ...

>>11664703
It's half. They're following the distancing protocols, but to be already sold out mea a that demand obviously outstrips supply. Can't wait until they go for bigger venues.

>>11664649
Isn't miko's mama the one who drew somthing from magical index anime and oregairu?

>>11664815
Not a single one of them broke 10k tho

>>11664396
Haachama is a costume, not a redesign, just happened that her second outfit was adopted by haachama as her new face in her Lore, is not like she hates her old outfit

>>11664245
>>11664797
>>11664831
Ha, I haven't forgotten, just putting the rider that we know Cover isn't always on the ball with things and they could've fumbled hard. Regardless, to completely cut ties like he did indicates someone didn't keep their cool, so too bad for em.

>>11662064
Since when was Mori in Nipland?

>>11664875
Still bummed out that it’s gonna be a silent crowd like Watame’s.
Always loved crowd energy at concerts.

>>11664936
Anon he is obviously falseflagging.
Even if we do count premieres, that was a single POV video.

>>11664794
The old miko costume (pre-Hololive) is absolutely trash.

>>11664815
Nice blue pill you took there, nijibros

>>11664976
Since before her debut.

>>11664976
anon...
Ever since EN was a thing, and then a few years before that.

>>11664815
Im looking at their current number and they don't really look high to me.

>>11665046
>>11665060
I somehow forgot that her flying back home was just a vacation or something.

Why do apexfags gets so pissed at a vtuber playing apex?? Pekora have 257 dislikes already

NijiID....

>>11664649
>If I recall there’s an old clip where she blames her outfit for being part of the reason she’s unpopular.
What a cunt honestly, a good outfit is not everything, IRyS works well even having an ugly model (Just imagine if she had her old indie model)

>>11664936
Ange broke 10k atleast

>>11664815
Huh? I just checked Nijimado and it's seems to be business as usual (mostly<10k). Did I miss some streams?

>>11664831
Mizuryu Kei is arguably one of the most Menhera artist out there which is a shame since I've fapped to his art a couple of years back. There was also that artist who did that Milf Yuki-onna doujin who went full Menhera once he found out that his art got posted in Sadpanda. He's locked all of his content behind a paywall now and refuses to do a sequal because of it. It was such a fucking loss since his art was so damn fappable.

>>11665143
Those are nijiniggers and kuzuniggers anon...

>>11665143
I think it's more holofags who hate apex

>>11665151
please get that thing away from me im allergic to 2views

>>11665143
it's kuzuniggers

>>11664649
>>11665154
She never said that.

>>11665218
>>11665237
*Insert relevant meme indicating both of these are likely*

>>11665151
A literal 2view...

>>11665151
Anya looks like a fucking divine being compared to him

>>11665151
Man, Derem's design was just ugh.
She has cute short white hair under all those tassles. She could have been way more appealing with that.

>>11664815
what alternate reality do you come from and how do I ensure I'll never end up there?

>>11665151
That's fucked

>>11665297
>2views
blindchama...

>>11665009
it isn't though, you just have shit taste.

>>11665314
I always wonder why they went with the shitty version of a good design.

>>11665312
she is the sixth most viewed vtuber in indonesia, anon.
Also she earns more in superchats a month than half their branch

>>11665151
Ahfhfjgdn
Get that....that THING away from here, uf.
Truly the stuff of numbers nightmares.

>>11665143
Kek Peko next cr cup lets gooo. Peko Jun would be kino

>>11655038
>Marine's return isn't exactly a 30k+ stream

I'm surprised that the Mori/IRyS duo is outdoing the Okayu/Mio duo this hard, especially considering the IRyS channel debuff.

>>11665359
Ange with the day's clutch to prevent Nijisanji to be shut out of today's top, with maybe Kizuku too.

Kuzuha taking it easy is taking a toll on Nijisanji peaks, I wonder how this month will fare for them in THAT chart.

>>11664875
iirc budoukan's the dream right? Selling out there would supposedly be amazing?

>>11665513
>IRyS at the top

What timeline is this ...

>>11665485
Man if Pekora, Marine, or Gura takes a vacation it hurts HL a bit but they have a bunch of heavy hitters and a very strong stable of middleweights. Niji seems very top loaded by comparison.

>>11665492
Tokyo Dome is the REAL fucking dream anon, not Budokan anymore

>>11665151
jesas, makes even anya look like a titan

>>11665143
A lot of that are nousagi, there's a large amount of them who are against her playing the game. Whenever she puts it as an option when she's deciding on things to play, the other option always wins no matter what it is.

>>11665492
Yes. They're not quite there I don't think, but a full cast Fes would be their best bet for something like that.
>>11665485
Oof. Not a pretty sight.
>>11665460
You underestimate how much reach these two have with JOP, and east coasters who woke up earlier likely watching them rn.

>>11665492
>>11665600
Tokyo Dome is bigger, Budokan has more prestige. Think selling out a stadium, vs playing Carnegie Hall

>>11665591
IRyS is actually a good streamer, JP likes her as well due to her fluent Japanese.
She'll get a big incline with a outfit change if it's decent imo.

>>11665596
Thanks to HoloJP, HoloEN is just coasting things along

>>11665600
Watame WILL sing on Tokyo Dome and I hope I can live to see the day

>>11665596
Kuzuha and Kenmochi's 4-7 monthly streams are the only ones who can consistently get 15k+, let alone 20k.

>>11665492
Suisei's sololive won't be at Budokan, it's on Toyosu Pit where the first Holofes was held. I don't know if Suisei can have concert at Budokan but Hololive for certain can fill it up.

* CURRENT TOP *
Very weak day like yesterday, with Nijis cutting it really close on the getting shut out line.

Nice presence of non majors at the top tho, with VSPO girl and Patra regular late night monday presence

>>11665143
Holo fans in general hate them playing APEX because of what it did to Nijisanji streamers and turning them into full APEX all the time and also getting involved with men like the CR cup and stuff.
She'll probably get over 30k on this stream though.

>>11665644
Budokan is 14K or so. Half seating they sell out no problem. I feel like if EN were involved they have a good shot at selling out a full venue.

>>11665699
Pekora's never going to become an APEX autist though, and her being bullied is a good source of entertainment. I'm guessing 32K

>>11665724
Oh, for some reason I thought it was more than 14k. Yea, that's an easy sellout with current Holo popularity in a non-pandemic situation.

>>11665694
Really disappointed at those OkaMio numbers. Both of them could get those numbers on a solo singing stream.

>>11665513
>Gamer dual Karaoke can't beat Mori & IRyS
When it comes to singing
JP can't beat EN

>>11665779
They see what happened to Matsuri and try to prevent it at all costs

>>11665779
32k? Isnt that abit to high its past her time slot already. I can see it going 25k+ though.

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021

1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.5k - Summer craft championship
19) Suisei (Hololive) - 83.5k - Outfit Reveal

>FUTURE EVENTS
21) Marine - Return Stream
22) Moona - Outfit Reveal

>>11665600
Nissan stadium > tokyo dome

>>11665694
>Top 10 not a single niji
Holy fucking kek

>>11665862
Yeah, what happened to Matsuri was long before APEX tho, no?

>>11665866
Feel like you can also list the Risu/Iofi outfits here, even though it can be beaten by an above average Peko stream.

>>11665779
>>11665862
>hey see what happened to Matsuri and try to prevent it at all costs
pretty much this, Towa has a small fanbase so people aren't that fussed.

>>11665904
Nigga, Nissan Stadium is not in Tokyo. Why would a Tokyo-based company go to Yokohama when they can get a good stadium in Tokyo? Dumbass.

>>11665694
How does this count as a weak day? What are people's standards for a weak, normal, or strong day?

>>11665958
I’m kinda feeling bad for them.
They need Kuzuha to stream his buff game or be in a tournament or Touya to get to top 10…

>>11666021
number of 10k+ streams are the metric for a "good day"
while we have a really high stream, the vtuber world in general feels like it is on break today.

>>11665652
Outfit reveal aside
Two ENs got the top 1 & 2 today

And ENs get into top 10 almost everyday

>>11665998
Just listing out speculations that could certainly win the day. I don't think Risu and Iofi could win though.

>>11666027
So in the past year I noticed there would be a new Niji pop up with a big 3d or the like, and then I never hear about them again. Like what happened to Leos? Hololive seems to have managed to cultivate pretty strong performers, if not world beating, in Gen 4, 5, EN, and even ID if you grade on a curve. Have any Niji's who debuted in the last 1-2 years developed any staying power?

>>11666131
Night is still young. got one or two more hours to get some backend numbers.
Peko is gonna stream in a bit after all.

>>11666195
Pomu

>>11665805
>Both of them could get those numbers on a solo singing stream.
Nah, you're selling both of them too high. Here is all of them both singing streams beating their current number

>2021-02-22 :: 64144/79123 :: 【#おかゆの生誕祭2021】お誕生日なので3D歌ライブだ~~【ホロライブ】 (okayu)
>2021-02-22 :: 24896/39177 :: 【#おかゆの生誕祭2021】お誕生日なので3D歌ライブだ~~【ホロライブ】 (okayu)
>2021-04-17 :: 20327/27291 :: 【目指せ100万人】歌う歌う歌う!達成したら告知もあり【猫又おかゆ/ホロライブ】 (okayu)
>2021-06-09 :: 18048/26614 :: 歌え!ほえろ!前だけ見て進む!!! (mio)
>2021-07-21 :: 18346/21779 :: 大神ミオ、オリジナル楽曲企画!その歌詞スバおかが考えます! (mio)
>2021-05-09 :: 13555/20869 :: 下手したらそのまま朝ミオです。70万人耐久歌枠【大神ミオ/ホロライブ】 (mio)
>2021-06-06 :: 16369/20351 :: ただいま!復活の歌わく! (mio)
>2021-06-12 :: 8856/20345 :: 【歌枠】告知が2つあるんだな~~。【猫又おかゆ/ホロライブ】 (okayu)
>2021-03-02 :: 12515/18739 :: 【歌枠】アニソンいっぱい歌うよ【猫又おかゆ/ホロライブ】 (okayu)
>2021-07-30 :: 14437/17390 :: 【耐久】80万人いくまで歌う!!!!!!いっくぞおおおお (mio)
>2021-04-06 :: 8730/17218 :: 【歌枠】初配信から2周年告知もあるよ!【猫又おかゆ/ホロライブ】 (okayu)
>2021-02-06 :: 11645/16123 :: 【歌枠】おうたのじかんです【猫又おかゆ/ホロライブ】 (okayu)
>2021-03-30 :: 9804/15956 :: 【歌枠】じゃんじゃん歌うで~~い【猫又おかゆ/ホロライブ】 (okayu)
>2021-02-14 :: 8563/15003 :: 【歌枠】ピアノ縛り!たくさん歌う【猫又おかゆ/ホロライブ】 (okayu)
>2021-06-05 :: 10807/14924 :: 【歌枠】アニソンとボカロいっぱい【猫又おかゆ/ホロライブ】 (okayu)
>2021-06-20 :: 11442/14836 :: バラードをそっと歌をうたう (mio)

Most are special streams

>>11666226
How does Peko do on APEX anyways? 25k~? 30k~?

>>11665143
Its holofans and probably mostly nosagi. They hate when holomembers play apex, because you know who also plays apex? M*les.
Its ok though the girls in hololive know this and play apex mostly off stream. And I'm sure with no males at all. I say knowingly.

>>11666245
Pomu used to get 2k+ pretty regularly didn’t she? She seemed that have slipped down to lower 1k.

>>11666195
Idk, just loot at edengumi atm. There's 3 of them streaming right now. Lauren holding 5k, Axia and Oliver holding ~2.5k.

>>11666289
Towa ...
matuli ...

>>11666021
>How does this count as a weak day?
Pic related is a strong day. Look at how many streams over 10k

>>11665694
This is one of their weakest month so far. Mito not 10k median anymore and Toya nearing sub 10k…

>>11666277
Not really sure.
I think she'll get 25k minimum though so she'll be in the top 10.

>>11666195
Ibrahim, Fuwa(late 2019), uh....not sure who else you'd call standout besides that? I'll be honest there's too many to remember.

>>11666359
>and Toya nearing sub 10k…
Yeah, he done goof'd by playing collabs with multiPOV, Kuzuha will suck the blood of anyone near his field

>>11666277
She can do 30k+ on her usual timeslot but its already past that. This is her last solo apex

Well, Mori and IRyS done, let's see how much OkayuMio goes up as a result. (15k when I last checked)

Sora on a steep incline thanks to her Sora station.
>t-thanks Peko-chan!

>>11666334
>My king won
It's a strong day!

>>11666520
Absolutely state of nijiniggers

>>11666362
Yeah but there are loads of good stream ongoing
*IRyS/Mori Karaoke
*Botan B4B
*Korone GBA Games
*Mio/Okayu Singing
+Fubuki, Sora, Moona, Reine, Watame are also streaming and its already past peko's timeslot
I predict it'll peak around 26k

>>11666027
He needs some rest, please understand.

>>11666563
>implying you need to be a nijinigger to be a subject of King Kuzuha
I kneel to him everyday and I don't even watch most of NIjisanji
>except for Princess Mito and Sultan Ibrahim, of course, for kneeling purposes

>>11665694
You can add korone and botan in there.

>>11666615
Ogey, kneel bros

Kuzuha streaming botw, Pekora playin apex. What is this timeline

>>11666728
It's called "Kuzuha's sick of it! APEX EDITION". Well, pulling 19k rn, dunno how much higher he can get today.

>>11665643
Based nousagi. But I guess Pekora needs her reps for the inevitable Apex collab with Botan and Towa. Anybody want to estimate how hype that would be?

>>11666666
congrats on your numbers

Pekora the dislikes oh no apexfags can't stand a female vtuber playing their game.

>>11666835
I don't think it will be that hype. Peko collab with suisei and towa in APEX already and she did get 30k+

Makes me wonder if the JP side numberfags do things similar to this threads.

>>11666666
I KNEEL, SUPER SATAN!

>>11666835
>Apex
>Botan
Pick one.

>>11666893
Botan playing apex on stream though, after all this time would probably nab some numbers. That trio seems to collab quite a bit.

>>11666903
>Makes me wonder if the JP side numberfags do things similar to this threads.
They do, some of their charts spill over to this humble side.

I wonder if "our" charts spill over to their side too

>>11666920
They will collab but it wont be Apex.

>>11666903
Oh japanese boards number fags are everywhere, every conversation about vtubers just ends up in numberfagging, even me as a numberfag hates to see it.

>>11666903
They certainly would be more invested, its already been shown that overseas can barely muster any dislikes to show their dissatisfaction on a streamer, whereas for the JP side they can be much more noticeable and significant.

>>11666920
I think Botan played apex only once and it was to feed Nene kills for her challenge.