/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>11602802
Cringe

>spamming your 2view on /vt/
anon please stop

>>11602802
Literally who

>>11603065
some furry

>>11602802
im ootl, what drama?

>>11603065
some furrys sassy mouthed walking fleshlight

>>11603100
Discord nigs got bored of spamming NijiEN3 and are moving on to Pippa.

>>11603153
I'm pretty sure Pippa is a discordnig

>>11603100
Streamer of Lolcows turns out to be one herself.

>>11602802
Isn't this the cute and shy lonely girl with no man around that is somehow getting laid every night?

>>11603335
Many such cases

>>11603100
Shes a retard who cant stop shooting herself in the foot despite literally reading threads begging her to stop replying to bait from 4chan on her public twitter account

>>11603711
You know it'd be pretty easy for her to just come kill the rrats around her in one fell swoop if she felt like it. The fact she doesn't leads to other conclusions and motives.

>>11603836
All she has to do is shut up. In what world does responding to /vt/ shitposters but on twitter the correct move? If shes this mad about it and HAS to respond, she should at least do it here anonymously so she doesnt draw more shit

>>11602802
who is pippa and why do people keep implying that she's the one making my artiaposts?

>trimming 3 chest hairs
ogey

>>11602802
First Lumi now this chick. What is Phase Connect and Cyberlive's obsession with /vt/'s shitposting?

>>11604072
They leave out baits and fall for the baits, they're pretty retarded honestly.

>>11604072
The lumi thing was way different than this, she didn't have a public meltdown

>>11603911
She has constantly proven to be the kind of person that can't do that.

get fucked pippa, you deserve it, fucking hypocrite. /here/chuubas deserve the rope

>>11604072
>2views unironically shilling themselves here
thats kind of sad

>This started over one of their concernfag mods getting offended at being called a jannie and later being made fun of by a CyberLive mod
I don't get why Pippa's being a retard when Lia's the one that complained about it too. Maybe it has to do with Tenma closing the marshmallows?

>>11604169
She was pretty nervous and anxious about things during her first stream after the shitposting.

>>11602802
Reminds me of YandereDev in a way. 4chan user leaves the 4chan bubble thinking the whole internet works the same way and ends up embarrassing themselves over and over with zero self-reflection.

>>11602802
>Want to support barely popular vtubers
>Look at their channels
>Tfw they play the most bland games
Maybe something interesting will spawn

>>11604452
Barely popular vtubers didn't get barely popular by being interesting to watch

>>11604205
You do what you have to if it's survival of their career. Though I agree this site isn't the one to do it the other one is much better for that they don't turn on you so easily.

>>11604565
what, reddit? No, they won't say why they dislike you, however they will just ignore you to death.

>>11602802
Filtering your audience is the exact opposite thing you want to do as a content creator. I'm starting to think all the fucking heretubers except for Bea are just genuinely stupid people.

>>11604614
Only Niji and Holos have reddits right? So if you're not from those corps and want to post on reddit, you have to post on the vtuber reddit which is filled with indie shilling and thus, low visibility chances.

>>11604452
Welcome to normal streamers. Reminder that chuubas as just that but with an anime avatar.

>be a cute girl
>pander to 4chan
>4chan bites you in the ass
who could have seen this coming? if only there were earlier precedents proving that pandering to this place never leads to anything good, like the last 1082 times the exact same thing happened

>>11604769
You're conveniently leaving out the
>backstabs her fans and pretends to be in the right
part that comes before the biting.

>>11604637
Of course they're genuinely stupid, they're /here/.

>>11604769
>4chan bites you in the ass
This is entirely self inflicted

>>11604769
4chan has never bitten someone in the ass for no reason, remember that.

>>11604637
Hell, it's the exact opposite thing you want to do as a corporate v-tuber like pippa is. At the end of the day you still need to make money for your company. That salary doesn't come from nowhere.

>>11604841
...it literally does all the time
a part of this site's identity is fucking with people for laughs

>>11604637
>>11604858
No. IDGAF about what the OP is about but Bruh, that's exactly what you want to do. Do you want political SJWs are your audience? Do you want Hololive to become a virtue signaling hub?
The Hololive community is built on filtering retards.

What did she do?

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>>11604820
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>>11604841
there has never been a justified case of a 4chan mob schizout internet lynching and this is one of the most obvious cases

pippa didn't even do anything wrong; she actually did nothing at all

>>11604637
>be a /here/tuber
>create a closed ecosystem of content and humour that panders to /vt/
>same group of retards show up to your streams until they get bored, the clique and in-jokes filter any newcomers
>never grow, only stream to an audience of menheras that will inevitably induce schizo episodes like what this thread is discussing
They think using /here/ to skip being a 2view is a good idea. It isn't.

>>11604940
t. Pippa
At least you've stopped using your twitter account to argue about this

>>11604908
>IDGAF
>Bruh
>politics
Apparently this board doesn't filter people enough.

>>11604985
no, seriously walk me through this. how did she wrong you?

>>11604905
No, not if they genuinely like them. Mind if I ask how old you are?
>>11604940
What fucking "internet lynching" criticizing someone for saying something stupid is not "turning on them" or "biting them in the ass". If that's what you consider a betrayal never talk to another human being again and save yourself the trouble.

>>11604998
If you want politics so bad there are subreddits for that bro. You don't need it in Hololive, or with any vtubers.

>>11604940
I still don't know if this is about the janny thing, the tweet saying she regretted showing her co-workers this place, or the boyfriend webms

>>11604940
pippa loves kiwifarms, a website dedicated to forming internet mobs against random people, if she becomes the subject of an internet mob she deserves it

>>11603100
no drama just pippa off her meds again.

>>11605005
Being a whore

>>11604769
In Pippa's case, she seems to prefer the farms over here (and 8kun which I miss), so I don't understand why both her and fishman shilled here knowing the type of fanbase they'd potentially get.
>>11604940
Fishman fucked up by grabbing random early viewers and turning them into mods instead of letting the talents choose them. Now we have some thin-skinned mod that can't handle a common 4chan insult and has to be defended by one of the talents for some fucking reason. Even a mod for CyberLive made fun of him. I don't get what the fuck Pippa's doing, desu. Find a more suitable mod instead of whining on Twitter, please.

>>11604769
>>11604820
>>11604841
could you show me the part where there was a 'biting in the ass' happening?? or is this all schizo talk?

I must smell Pippa's musk.
>No pants
>No panties

>>11605182
people are digging up and posting awkward past life clips in order to get to her

>>11605182
I was speaking hypothetically, I do not at all keep tabs on Pippa or any of her nonsense.

>>11605222
>past life clips
holy sheet i need to see these!

>>11605036
>not if they genuinely like them
If you say anything against 4chan's popular opinion there is a large group here that will want you dead. People here are extremely naive to how this site behaves.

>>11605093
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma

I want Pippa to look at me like this while she makes me cum with her feet. Imagine the pure look of utter distain, while she is secretly very much into it, giving into her sexual desire and furiously moving her slender, porcelain legs. You would be able to see a puddle of her lovely juices form beneath her all the while. I bet that her slippers hide two very beautiful, womanly feet and 10 little precious painted girly toes, ripe for a suckling. I want Pippa to lick her soles clean of my seed after the act is done. I want Pippa to make me cum with her feet...

Join Vshojo Pippers, your senpai Nyanners will tell you all her secrets about handling massive groups of retards you have angered

>>11604980
I don't see how that argument is holding up since 4chan is the reason they have an audience in the first place. Other vtubers don't get the opportunity to whore themselves to 4chan for views to stay relevant. If you knew anything about marketing 101, you'd know that not knowing and not specifying your target audience will always be the biggest mistakes. You'd never grow and end up like indie twitch sluts.

>>11605005
Nah but the real answer is that she is acting like a fucking retard. Whether she did something wrong or is completely innocent, you should NEVER have this kind of reaction on your public shit. Quite frankly not even a private account because people worm their way into that shit too and leak it. If she has to have a meltdown and say a bunch of stupid shit, do it here anonymously where it's far harder to damage your image. She deserves all the shit shes getting because she is deliberately feeding into it. She is probably reading these threads and ignoring everyone telling her that shes not helping herself and only making this worse, so clearly the only way she will learn to stop is to get burnt enough to realize the right answer

>>11605276
Okay so you're a child that started using this site recently and thinks that anything anyone says here is serious. Do not at all fucking call me naive when I've been coming here for 12 years. If you've ever seen someone "angry" about something here, they forget about it within the hour, I can guarantee you that. The entire point of 4chan is that you can come here and anonymously discuss all angles of a topic without being judged for it.

>>11605290
Pippa is built for ryona

>>11603153
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>>11605069
>>11605111
>>11605182

nyafuu 9372117 if you're not shilling and are legit oblivious

>>11605158
I still dont know how anyone can enjoy the company of the farms. Pandering here on a site filled with anonymous users isn't smart either since schizos can freak on a dime and theres never a consensus, but pandering to farms users who seem to be nothing but psychopaths and schizos is the definition of playing with fire.

>>11605359
I've been here longer than you. You are naive like I said.

>>11605158
>8kun
Does she seriously go to the qoomer honeypot and not the .moe? This just keeps getting more and more ridiculous

>>11605059
Okay schizo, time for your meds.

>>11605317
are you just trying to drum up some nonexistent drama? i don't think anyone is seriously angry here apart from creating nonsensical bait

>>11605093
what are you even talking about?
but i don't see any mob apart from one person creating schizo rrats

>>11605372
>enjoy the company of the farms
this is a rrat
just because someone talks about something doesn't mean they enjoy their company
did she ever say that she panders to the farms specifically?

>>11605271
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/9371121/#9372117

>>11602802
I assumed she was talking about people losing their head over sneed posting

idk, who cares tho, like baka, e-celeb drama isn't real, just close the laptop, walk away

>>11604841
>>11604769
Many such cases

>>11605445
>september 7th
why are you posting this now exactly, is this an actual drama doxxcord raid?

>>11605462
nyanners is a bitch, but could you elaborate what happened and what's with the biting in the ass? are you trying to spread fake rrats?

>>11603100
She is unironically one of the many schizo rrat flingers on this board engaging in schizo warfare with other schizos on /vt/
Nothing to give a fuck

>>11605372
I think she's kind of a newfag to chan culture and pretending real hard to fit in by knowing about the split off chan sites, like only real hardcore users use kiwifarms etc.

In reality no they're split off because they're garbage unwanted on the site. They're staffed by people who are dumb enough to be deceived by shit like q larp and nosy/stalker-y enough to go very carefully chronologue some poor sap's life as a hobby instead of just laugh at him a bit in some funny sonichu threads on /v/ 10 years ago and just leave it be from there.

>>11603065
Nyanners 2 but she only makes passive-aggresive remarks that she's culling anyone from here after realizing it's fairly stupid to ever appear /here/ in any official capacity

>>11605359
>If you've ever seen someone "angry" about something here, they forget about it within the hour, I can guarantee you that
You dumb faggot. Half this board is still mad about Tumblr drama from 5 years ago.

>>11605490
Anon please how many times are you going to cluelessly ask to be spoonfed

>>11605490
>nyanners makes 4chan themed comic dubs a decade ago on youtube
>4chan doxxes her
you should know at least this much anon

>>11605321
Because the target audience is not only small but composed of volatile individuals. Yes, 4chan gives them an audience, but that audience will forever isolate itself. If you're happy to stream to the same small room of schizo 4chan autists and never try to get bigger then sure, it's a quick way to get some numbers.

>>11605368
>go read the zax posting!!

No.

>>11603100
Just another literal who english vtuber who pumped and dumped the underage retards from /vt/

>>11603100
so far i don't see any but people trying to create some for their own enjoyment
people can't even elaborate what it is

>>11605515
then there is no drama then

>>11605528
i don't care about nyanners, i'm talking about pippa
people are creating narratives out of thin air

>>11605531
>but that audience will forever isolate itself
Koopa has proven you wrong, she just didnt totally wean off anons before crashing herself into the ground. You 100% can get a jumpstart off of being /here/ because it's a guaranteed audience compared to your average vtuber who's going to struggle with literal 2 viewers for potentially months and months on end. Shit like Lumi has proven how effective it is when /clg/ has an IP count that's 70% of her viewer numbers on any given stream, and then anons flood into other members of the company and it builds from there. Theres a reason cyberlive and phaseconnect employees other than the talents read the threads

>>11605445
>https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/9371121/#9372117
I never should have asked. My heart cannot take this. delete this .

Checked her twitter.
Is she ok? Seems like some kind of mental breakdown to me.

>>11605531
The whole point of vtubing is that you want the same loyal audience. I have seen /wvt/ retards who quit vtubing because they tried to pander to everyone and even SJWs. In the end their audience was never loyal to them. I've seen one of them vtuber go from 40 viewers down to 3. People who pander to 4chan have a much more consistent audience they fall back to, because people here are autists and are willing to dedicate their time watching them.

>>11605576
What this is is a fucking timeloop of shit from last month, straight-up. PC threads were shitty and rocky for a while the past couple weeks already. The difference is it's a much higher profile on the board outside than before now, because for some reason it escaped the PC threads this time. I guess, because pippa was in a /here/chuubas collab hence brought several different crowds together. Although, it looks pretty artificial. People didn't care remotely this much about a nearly-who like 2 fucking days ago and now suddenly there's like a dozen threads made about it when THERE IS NOTHING NEW. NOTHING ACTUALLY HAPPENED. The closest you could argue is she was fucking sitting there next to Lia who got annoyed people were calling her mods jannies (after she herself scolded them to stop being so harsh). That's about it.

Because it is literally a fucking timeloop, Pippa is actually-stupid to address it differently or stress out over it.

Bitch bunny, if you are reading this, if you are so moved by this all (perhaps it's been building up for a month under your skin until today) address the rrat and just slay it to shut up these drama stirring faggots. Or just stay fucking quiet and let it go away, don't fucking feed into it.

>>11605481
>catalog flood with the exact same shit with the exact same message
What do you think?

>>11605652
She bites bait so hard that it cracks her teeth. The difference between her and anons who do the same thing is that anons dont do it on Twitter for all the world to see with their name attached

>>11605445
kek so this is the girl i see posted here every fucking day? that's sad and it seems she's insane

>>11605481
The other anon asked for the past clips, and I am a friendly man

>>11604637
Here's the thing, you should never, ever recognize 4chan in any way or capacity, it will become a hindrance sooner or later, the second you prove to be /here/ you've inevitably started a Nyanners situation whether you realize it or not, newbies don't realize that or think that it'll never come down to that until it's too late and by then they are in too deep to leave unscratched

>>11605646
>Shit like Lumi has proven how effective it is when /clg/ has an IP count that's 70% of her viewer numbers on any given stream, and then anons flood into other members of the company and it builds from there. Theres a reason cyberlive and phaseconnect employees other than the talents read the threads
Both Phase Connect and Cyberlive are constantly playing with fire, their talents will have to endure spergout after spergout thanks to pandering to this shithole. Lumi already broke down on stream because of one and this is like Pippa's third one already? Nobody deserves this, please tell these organizations to value their talents' mental health more.

>>11605691
>THERE IS NOTHING NEW. NOTHING ACTUALLY HAPPENED
Shes live tweeting her responses to the thread, anon. That's why this is getting as much traction as it is

>>11605650
You are not alone, she was my oshi. Yet, her behavior towards Tenma still echoes in my heart and I can't bring myself to let it go.

>>11605724
why do you like to keep spreading rrats? nyanners situation only ever happens if you pander to sjws
hololivers mentioned /vt/ a couple of times, and they were even caught posting here
if you aren't a newfag you should off yourself for spreading lies and rrats

>>11605755
I dont think lumi came to /vt/ with the intent of getting herself known. An anon who watched her saw the whole hopium fiasco with Mumei and capitalized on it by shilling Lumi to all the dejected strategy game fans and from there Lumi played into it because it gave her viewership a big boost

>>11605792
>nyanners situation only ever happens if you pander to sjws
a reminder that she was doxxed by 4chan like a solid 3-4 years before any perceived sjw pandering

>>11605755
>Nobody deserves this
nobody forced them to pander to /vt/, they wanted to get attention from here and that's exactly what they got. then they cry when sometimes it isn't the kind of attention they want, boo hoo

>>11605775
>her behavior towards Tenma
What?

>>11602802
BASED BASED BASED

>>11602802
Isn't she also a Kiara anti?

>>11605812
Lumi was originally from the /asp/ threads here, so it's not like she came here, she always was here.
>>11605849
She missed a collab and people blew it out of proportion.

>>11605724
It's fine to at least acknowledge /vt/ exists and you don't hate it. Fans are fans - to preferentially elevate or shit on certain fans just because they're from certain sites is in of itself going to cause butthurt. Respect all your fans and like them all equally. /vt/ itself is also a distinct entity from 4chan as a whole.

If you used 4chan for a long-ass time but as a legit hobbyist (basically /a/-/jp/, /v/ or /co/) you're a respectable kind of /here/, like Ina or Pomu. You don't want validation from 4chan as a generic entity because you have the tact/standards to recognize you don't WANT the attention of /b/tards and /pol/tards etc along with your people from /a/ and so on. If people can pick up on it by how you talk/reference things then it's just a nice easter egg and that's it.

It is however, dumb to literally market yourself as a/the 4chan tuber, as in @4chan the site, however, which is basically what Pippa, Koopa and Kiki (and soon to be Nade) are doing. Nyanners also did that initially. To this day, she still talks like an old school 2cool4u 4channer sometimes long long after things went south here.

>inb4 and Bea
No, not Beatani. Beatani is clearly not from here to begin with, she is /here/ but isn't "the" 4chan tuber as a gimmick. She has actively shilled on reddit etc trying to just grow wherever - it just so happens that this place is what picked her up from being literally nothing and helped build her up. That is the way to do it basically.

>>11605757
well someone needs to go fucking shit her twitter off or something.

>>11605813
nyanners was an insufferable /b/tard attention whore
hololive gets doxxed all the time and none of them became a nyanners
nyanners is like that special kid who eats glue, don't compare or even use nyanners as a baseline of any sort, it's an insult

>>11605872
What I meant was that she wasnt pandering to /vt/ seemingly until the hopium thing went down. I'm sure she was in the thread before that though

>>11605901
yes but if you want to make the argument that this situation only happens if you do "sjw pandering" you're sorely mistaken

all you have to do is make enough retards angry by doing something they dislike and they're coming for you

>>11605849
She had a collab with tenma.

She canceled at the last minute.

Was on a different persona streaming almost immedately after.

Tenma basically said "if you could see my steam freinds list right now you would understand why I'm upset"

>>11604858
>as a corporate v-tuber like pippa is
Honestly i wouldn't call Phase Connect a corporate looking how Fishman runs this gig.
Out of all the EN start up Phase is definetly the least serious one and also the one most in red apparently

>>11605443
Admittedly that's just a rrat I fell for due to seeing it brought up a lot. It's circumstantial at best, but I can sort of see why people might draw ties to that, if only due two select streams like the CWC and the infamous HoloEN gen 1 audition tape review.
Granted, she hasnt done anything like that in ages, likely due to being mercifully bonked by management at that point. I dont know, I just think its for the best that any content creator/streamer never try to outright pander to what they think 4chan is. She was already doing a good job explaining weird internet subcultures like the Build-a-Bear shit, and it seemed like she was recovering greatly up until recently with the /here/tubers and shit going wrong.

>>11605939
Maybe a company in the red shouldn't be "Filtering your audience"

>>11605901
>comparing how a teenager reacted to how a grown woman with a corporation backing her does
Are you sure you're not the one eating glue?

>>11605901
I'm pretty sure Mumei hates this place after what happened.

>>11605755
>Lumi already broke down on stream because of one
Really? Lumi should know that some bored losers are gonna band together in discord and spam drama all over the board eventually.

>>11605934
>Was on a different persona streaming
She never streamed, she hasn't streamed on that account in months. Tenma probably believed something similar until it was cleared up.

>>11605757
>Shes live tweeting her responses to the thread
Guess the rrats just reeling the bloody rabbit who bit the bait.

Intrinsically, anons aren’t even supposed to recognize the existence of females on the site, much less the board. Obviously, this has become impossible for many reasons; what remains is the fallout of not adhering to past sentiments, leading to lolcows and attention-whoring the likes of which mirror /soc/ in nature.

So many fucking rrats going wild and retarded bullshits

>>11602802
So for the last twenty threads of this shit all I've seen is bf clips that have been around forever, something about mods and discord tranny jannies being harassed by big fat meanie doodoo head bullies, and tweets talking about regrets about being /here/ after the fact.

Is that it? Is that seriously it? No Ollie fingering, no matsuri hand, no zen tranny rage, no Hana truth bombs, no kson ass pic, no tranny shark, no other 2view schizo suicide baiting, but this nothing burger? Please tell me I'm just a blind faggot and you retards haven't been talking about a single worthless twitter post since yesterday. Did she fuck the neighbors dog or something, wheres the beef?

>>11606018
>Please tell me I'm just a blind faggot and you retards haven't been talking about a single worthless twitter post since yesterday
Anon, i am sorry.

>>11605885
Adding to that, Lumi and CL basically are more like tourists, /here/ adjacent but they don't literally wear their 4chan-ness on their sleeve like Pippa. It's engagement and that's not really a cardinal sin.

Pippa had set this all up to go south - literally befriends not here, no, but kiwifarms, the actual fucking doxfag, cyberstalker pit that is too shitty to remotely be allowed to exist on 4chan. Those people live off drama and lolcows and probably are gleeful at the prospect of turning Pippa into one. All this forced this of a fucking timeloop I guarantee is coming from there, sort of like how Kiara was mercilessly attacked here for months by butthurt lolcow whose entire purpose of being, is drama. Lolcow is another shit site, but, the type of place pippa would be into from the look of it.

>>11605792
>>11605901
Hololive is doxxed in hopes that it smears fans image of the character, actors or company but the real majority of times why they are doxxed is horny guys that feel they need to know everything about them

Nyanners doxx was purely malicious in intent because because she grew up and broke from the 4chan hivemind collective.

stop comparing the two

>>11605939
maybe that's why sneed was brought up in a meeting. Mandatory /vt/ culture instruction to boost numbers kek

>>11606046
>Nyanners doxx was purely malicious in intent because because she grew up and broke from the 4chan hivemind collective.
see >>11605813
it was actually because doxxniggers thought she was an annoying attention whore who needs to be taken down a notch, she only broke off from 4chan after the fact

>>11605980
>I'm pretty sure Mumei
and so does shiki, and many others who got "doxed", and yet they keep coming back to this place
they didn't do a nyanners, nyanners pandered to sjws and wrote that whole essay bullshit on being a weeb anti, and she still WAS doing that same sjw bs up until people pointed it out and had her blog deleted

>>11605813
Well pretty much anyone who made themselves known on 4chan got doxxed, it was just the nature of the site back then.

>>11606008
It will only get worse the more and more people catch wind of /vt/
People will see it as a free meal ticket and inevitably incidents like this will become a daily occurence

>>11606046
>hivemind collective
Kek, the irony of “breaking free” of one hell just to fall into another, far-more ravenous shithole.

>>11606093
>and yet they keep coming back to this place
Even nyanners still comes to 4chan.

>>11606093
People stalked Nyanners IRL. It's not comparable.

>>11606128
That's pretty much what /wvt/ on /trash/ is these days.

>>11606128
The convergence of Twitch streamers and /wvt/ is heavily accelerating that oblivion seated just upon the horizon. The question is: How might it be averted before then?

>>11605695
Are you sure we are not the ones who bites her baits?

>>11606131
I guess, maybe Nyanners and the others just feel safer with the other beast who knows
>>11606088
So we basically created our own monster it doesn't justify either sides actions really.

>>11606144
ah yes, i hate how that is always true

i wonder what keeps people tied to this place

>>11606155
nah, a lot of IRL doxxing / stalking here as well

>>11606180
That would require people to not be retarded, so you may as well grab some popcorn and enjoy the show.

>>11606046
She never hung out with a good crowd to begin with here and I don't think pippa did either from the look of it. There are three classes of 4chan users basically -

a.) hobbyists. probably just fine as /here/chuubas because they are legitimate anime fans and have been here a decade or whatever. probably would have tried vtubing just for fun even if no money was involved.

b.) activists. mostly a newer strain from GG/2016 onward, also the exact kind of people moot was fucking tired of and wanted off the fucking site in favor of the hobbyists. girl versions of these I wouldn't trust worth a shit because they came with a bad crowd.

c.) attention whores. nyanners is clearly that type as one of the ones from /b/, /soc/, /r9k/ etc. these are going to be fucking menheras, actual whores posting their tits here etc and you DO NOT want these as /here/chuuba representatives.

Also know and distinguish not all parts of 4chan like each other. /b/tards have been hated severely on every board that isn't /b/ for close to fucking 15 years running now. To represent yourself as just "4chan" as a tuber is risking bringing in all these stupid losers and faggots to come mess you up. If you're going to flash any achievement badges of being a 4channer they ought to be from boards that don't habitually have psychos, criminals and murderers on them like /r9k/ and /b/. Any girl that does that, is a bad sign and should be dropped instantly.

>>11606233
The same thing that keeps people on facebook, it's in our nature to be entertained by drama it can be used contantly to rope people in, make them have something to stand up for and lose and keep fighting or win and search for the next boogieman to beat.

>>11606233
Honesty, drama, and saying nigger is refreshing, fun, and cathartic.

>>11605885
Watching Kiki recently has well and I can’t tell if she’s playing up the 4chan pandering more and more in recent streams or if she’s legit that autistic.

>>11606180
It cannot be averted
Pippa wasnt the first second or even third person something like this has happened to, and as long as /vt/ has the potential to give you an easy audience then it will keep happening to new girls, and I guess trannies

>>11606227
>created our own monster
>doesn't justify
how about just don't be an attention whore on an anonymous website if you don't want people to shit down your throat? if you attention whore you deserve to get doxxed, simple as that. stay anonymous like you're supposed to

>>11605980
Mumei got fucked over by her own intentional stupidity of not doing opsec at all.

The modern internet encourages people to plaster their private lives out in the public for all to see. There is not much legwork involved in doxfagging these days as it is arguably not even fucking doxing if it's just looking at someone's twitter or facebook or whatever. The person WANTED the whole wide world to see it. Think it might cause problems? Don't fucking post it then. Past the 00s the whole meta of "never share anything about your real name/face/identity online" got completely fucked up by all this fucking retarded social media shit and it's really going to fuck over chuubas for the foreseeable future.

>>11606215
We could be, but if we are then I dont know what she plans to get from this. People who gained more respect or love from anons like Ame Kiara and Mori only did so because they already knew who they were
You're not going to get people doubling down for some small streamer theyve never heard of and will just assume the worst right off the bat because the vtubing scene is full of girls like that who really did something wrong. So if this is deliberate she really needs to slam the breaks as hard as she can

>>11606233
Thefact we are all faceless Anons here

>>11606321
>/here/tubers all deserve doxxing
stunning and brave take from anonymous

>>11606233
Anonymity is very useful and fun and as much as people deny it, you can get good advice here if you dont have an exclusive gachikoi audience of turbo goslings

>>11606355
yes, glad we're on the same page now sweetie

>>11606321
>telling someone raised on technology from birth to be a narcissistic attention-whore to not be a narcissistic attention-whore
That'll work.

>>11606333
The worst part about that is she had a senpai go through similar shit who should have told her how to handle or just flat out prevent this shit, so somebody dropped the ball hard there

>>11605445
I wonder if her top paypigs jl7ten and mr. mannequin have seen these, and if so why do they continue to be such cucks

>>11606180
I just checked /wvt/ and that was a fucking mistake.
>hurr systematic bias
>durr patriarchy
>muh incel
Fuck those cunts. Reeks of Twitterfaggotry in there.

>>11606475
there's a reason Enna of NijiEN specifically shitted on them lol.

>>11606448
It does seem like two or three shills playing dumb and shilling hard in this thread :p

>>11606046
yeah but Nyanners is hot as fuck.

>>11606475
If you ever read twitter replies in anything that might be related to or could be related to /vt/ you will see more than a few tweets talking about this place, even though not all of them actively visit. /vt/ is twitter and has been for months

>>11606423
>/hlgg/ lived rent free in Kiara's, Mori's, and Watson's heads for the first few months
>somehow they don't tell Kronii to not come here and Mumei to clean her shit up and not come here
Fauna tried to clean things up but man, fallenchama was on that like stink on a skunk.

>>11606600
Meanwhile you have Niji en 3 namedropping 4chan on their second day of existence kek

>>11606475
>>11606574
i know for a fact there are at least 2 nigger tourists screencapping posts from this place and reposting them on facebook, twitter and reddit

>>11606634
> Niji en 3 namedropping 4chan
i don't watch nijiEN
who and timestamp?

>>11606475
Several vtweeters — which are arguably the absolute worst among the pool — have their talons latched into /wvt/ and have used it both to propel themselves and to begin to supplant the very nature of the scene. The only saving grace of this situation is that they are currently largely confined to /trash/. That’ll likely change, given several already obvious circumstances.

Why are there a thousand Pippa threads over months old news? Fucking newfags I swear.

>>11606693
It was a group watchalong but I dont remember the timestamp
One of them said "he looks like a 4channer" to which everyone else panicked and she backpedaled saying something along the lines of "that's a kind of game right" or something like that I dont remember 100%
I think it was the cat

>>11606758
A perfect storm of that favorite vtuber tournament and a recent all /here/ collab that introduced a bunch of new anons to her, I think

>>11606634
Nijisanji isn't expected to be as clean as Holo so somehow it's not really perceived as much as a problem. Also /vt/ is way bigger than anyone seems to even come close to admitting so it's more like just a fact of life/being honest with the audience that of course they're aware of here. Selen talked about archive reps and rrats on her fucking debut. Yet Selen is massively loved here and everywhere. Her past was dug up as much as could be and yet no stupid shit like what we have in this thread has happened at all.

People are here because when there isn't feedback gathering on your latest stream, there's opinions gathering, trying to figure out growth strats etc. All the drama, like yes this very thread, is just so attention-grabbing though. It's rubbernecking, watching trainwrecks can be terrifying but it's downright exhilirating compared to the Xanax atmosphere of reddit. Reddit is literally nonstop "check out this cool/cute/funny clip" and "isn't (corporation) great, aren't vtubers great, isn't this all magical fluffy unicorn semen mmmmm" daycares and preschools. /vt/ actually isn't the worst stop for vtuber discussion - certain discords/doxcords are. so this is kind of the closest to a neutral/in-between grounds there is.

>>11606725
What reason could they have to be kn /trash/?

>>11606820
I miss the /jp/ days where it took a month for someone to dump Ame's yab shit
Now a days you have that information literally days before they even debut off of just a description or the new vtuber and a 1 second voice clip

>>11606826
that's where they were before /vt/ existed. Vshojo was there and on /aco/. /vt/ was made explicitly because it overwhelmed /jp/ (where Global used to be along with /hlg/ which is still there) and caused huge tension with the rest of the board. 99% of chuuba discussion on this site was all about Hololive, and today it feels like 80% Holo 15% Niji 5% others.

>>11606762
That's pretty funny. Even Nijis have to backtrack naming this place.
>>11606820
No matter how beloved someone is people will gravitate towards juicy things. Selen just wasn't juicy and didn't have built in antis like Mumei did.

This place has so much instant gratification I find it hard not to spend time here. I'm only some guy but I bet a lot of people are just like me.

>>11606867
To be fair, it's still at 75-80% accuracy at pre-debut.

>>11603335
Shocking

>>11603335
kiwiniggers always eat their own, even when they're on good terms. I'm not sure why the pippers thought it was a good idea to tempt fate with them.

>>11606913
>Selen wasn't juicy
Sorry anon... but my sides are in full kek.

>>11606953
Kiwiniggers don't seem to mind her right now.

>>11606980
Anon please.

>>11602802
this is something women do regularly
they try to see what they can get away with.
think of it as loyalty checks, when she says she wants to separate "weak" from the "strong". she wants to see how many simps she has who wouldnt question her no matter what, she considers them "strong".

>>11606600
>>11606333
Wait what did kronii and mumei do? Are you guys talking about the "amber" post in the latter's case?

>>11607232
First one is allegedly browses her split, second one had easily preventable doxxshit

>>11604637
Bea is the strongest filterer of them all.

>>11604565
Retard.
4Chan is the best site to do exactly that on the motherfucking world wide web.

>>11604452
And Minecraft isn't bland?
>Oh god Server Tour #950672
>Oh God SHE LOGGED impromptu collab letssss gooooo?
Even Kiara JRPG are more interesting now

>>11604637
>>11607644
As was said here
>>11605885

The issue is some /here/chuubas aren't satisfied with either a dogwhistle or a little easter egg reference to tip the hand, which is I think about all a chuuba should do. Some of them make it their mission to try to outdo the others and ignore all restraint to be "the 4chan vtuber" and Bea isn't actually-that at all. Bea attempts to reach out to whatever - reddit, discord, the Japanese (or at least used to) and appreciates our support but isn't like super-reliant on us nor bends over backwards to pander just to us.

Pippa basically is too dumb to read the atmosphere of where's a good point to stop pandering, while also carrying baggage that she absolutely should fucking full well have known would eventually blow up if unaddressed and of course she just doesn't address it and seethes which only makes her look 100% guilty and leaves everyone to keep rrating. Someone should only dare to try to rep the site if they know they are 100% bulletproof from rrats. Pippa not just being vulnerable to having shit found out, but hanging out with kiwi faggots who are literally like 1,000x the magnitude of schizo doxnigger as here? She isn't just tempting fate but sticking her head in its jaws and pouring bbq sauce on herself.

>>11605646
>Lumi
Lumi was heavily shilled on the board long before she started associating herself with /here/. Not breaking containment was and still is one of her key traits. The Phasmo collab is the only real exception to it and the /vt/ League commentary doesn't count because it was within a heavy containment area.

>>11607792
Bea stream for hobby, Pippa wants this to be a job

>>11607801
Lumi is a good example of how to just be sane about it. Yes /vt/ exists and even if you owe it your success (she literally does from /asp/) you don't have to make it your life's mission as a chuuba to suck it off. Just do your content.

Just like how we found it so fucking annoying that some Holos openly pandered to reddit, everywhere not-here must find it annoying seeing someone trying too hard to pander to us. Basically being in-touch with the major sites but not being a slave to any specific one, being /here/ in all places, probably is the smart move I think (sort of what bea has done).

>>11605069
>boyfriend webms
Damn I'm out of the loop, what is this about?
Was the furry confirmed to be her boyfriend?

>>11607849
It's literally just reheated soup from three months ago.

>>11607792
>Bea attempts to reach out to whatever
While at the same time posting her most hardcore videos, creating a natural filter that can only be bypassed by /vt/.

>>11604637
Growth no matter what isn't that good either, though.
Even Gura didn't go for maximum growth at any cost. She could have collabed with OTV and Sykkuno, but she didn't.
That doesn't mean that trying to be as niche as possible is the way to go, but clearly every vtuber/streamer needs to decide on a line somewhere inbetween "do anything" and "go as 2view as possible".

>>11605695
This is the biggest issue she has, she thinks twitter works the same way 4chan does. It doesn't.

>>11607801
>Not breaking containment was and still is one of her key traits.
She did a selfpost in /trash/ once for whatever reason.

>ITT newfags eating pippa bait.
Sage goes on all fields

>>11607792
>but hanging out with kiwi faggots
One of her biggest mistakes in my opinion. She should have been aware of how easily kiwis/farmers turn on the same people they claimed to love and support before. They feed on drama after all.

>>11608064
Oh, that thing. Did it really took so many anon's by surprise? Seemed quite obvious to me.

>>11608972
It's newfags getting their first exposure to Pippa.

Kiki is going to end up like her isn't she? I'm an upcoming chuuba myself but now I think it's a good idea I never associated myself with this board on stream

>>11608846
thread's already been on autosage.

Pippa deserves no mercy really IMO, she should have just killed her rrats and moved on months ago - but mods are at least giving a sign they acknowledge the situation.

>>11609039
the cycle is inevitable

do not selfpost for the easy viewers, the monkey's paw curse is too strong

>>11609039
Acknowledging it exists is kind of inevitable these days because basically every newbie is very aware of here. I think within a year or two you'll start to look like a facebook grandma if you pretend real hard this place doesn't exist and isn't hugely influential.

However, the message of this thread I think is don't sell yourself as "the 4chan vtuber" and don't bend over backwards to pander to here. Pippa's mistake isn't even really here but fucking kiwifarms. All this shit, all this drama, is from a thread -there-.

>>11609039
Acknowledging this place is fine but NEVER selfpost or try to pander to this place, do your own thing.

It's on page 11 already. Will a new thread be made?