/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Went afk for a minute, what'd she say about Holotalk?

>>1096416
She's possibly gonna start holotalk again next week. She was thinking possibly the same time but might ask her next guest if she can get up one hour earlier for it.

So I guess youtube is still locking her out of her account huh? I hope she's able to get that fixed soon...

kiara doesn't fucking deserve what youtube is doing to her

>hates mushrooms
Dropped, stream disliked, channel unsubbed, membership cancelled, twitter unfollowed, complaint to Susan and strong worded letter to COVER sent.

>>1096648
Youtube is probably a bunch of shitty kiara antis too.

>>1096802
biggest red flag yet, not sure how to cope with that

>>1096802
Based, mushrooms are nasty. only faggots eat fungus.

>>1096818
Either that or Kiara hacked all the people (only people on this board) blocked her channel on our accounts and made it look like she's shadowbanned to farm pity and in reality her channel is totally fine.

It's one of the two.

Oh, yeah. She's still shadowbanned. Only 1.3k viewers after 28 minutes. I'm sure the shadowban is contributing to it but Ryza wasn't a big drawer from the previous streams that I remember. Also the earlier time slot probably doesn't help when the prime time for American viewers is between 7:00 PM~12:00 AM.

reminder she had 6k people watching when she was AFK
reminder she had 9k people watching when she was 40 min late
reminder no matter how shitty this game is, 1k viewers is def not normal

Ryza is so fucking boring...

>>1097437
Ryza is great, your life is boring lmao.

>>1097437
I just listen with the stream on a 2nd monitor and look over whenever it sounds like something is happening or she says there's a new cute girl.

Why does she even play it? Did you faggots vote for it or something? Also why is she playing it in japanese? I'm white. Play it in english so I'm not forced to have the stream in fullscreen to read tiny subs.

>>1097504
Kiara focus on streaming

>>1097533
>Why does she even play it?
She loves JRPGs since she was a teenager and Atelier shit is one of her favorite series

>>1097077
I swear I had set up a reminder specifcly on the video to remind me she streaming and it didnt trigger. Even on the mobile page where it shows if subs are live, it says Kiara isnt live. Even on previous shadowbans this never happened. Youtube is a fucking Kiara anti.
>>1097437
Ryza's just a chill time, but I understand It can be a slog to watch if you're zoning out like Kiara does a lot.
>>1097533
Because shes a fan of the series. Also theres no english dub, so learn to read, white boy.

>>1097594
>Background noise chill stream
>"Learn to read"

>He's numberfagging

>>1097638
I never said background noise. Also I would say do your japanese reps like everyone has, but that'd be too much if he cant even read.

AAA I WANNA SLEEP IN KIARA'S CLOTHES

>>1096802
FUCK MUSHROOMS! they taste like nothing and with a terrible texture. they're only worthwhile as a flavour enhancer and nothing else

>>1097732
Can't talk much shit about him when she and the chat admitted to not reading either like 5 minutes ago.
Literally no one cares about Ryza

>she thinks 5k bitrate isnt great quality
most twitch streamer have 3k and its totally fine

YOUTUBE HATE! And they have the nerve to take a chunk out of my money for Kiara!

>>1097594
try using this https://kiaranotifs.vercel.app/
its made by fans and is usually always right on time messaging you when a stream starts

>>1097777
>taste like nothing
>only worthwhile as flavour enhancer
what a waste of quads

>>1097777
YOU TAKE THAT BACK
YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW
YOU
YOU
DOUBLE SHIITAKE!

>>1097777
I can’t believe I share a board with fucking mushroom antis

>>1097777
show flag indog

I thought after moving to australia she'd stream at more EOP friendly times but she's continuing to stream during JP primetime for whatever reason.
Retard chicken....

>>1098049
Her streaming time has barely changed..
All the hype about a new schedule and it barely moved

>>1097998
Good thing you share a board with people much worse than that

>>1098049
Fuck you, these are EU-friendly times.

She's streaming for EU time, what did you expect?

>>1098087
Literally false
If you're a yuro, you can actually catch all her streams now

JRPGs murder streams. It's been known for a long time. Korone had 6000 viewers during the mid stretch of her Mother 2 run and I haven't seen her go under 5 digits in ages.

>>1098049
She's probably convinced that if she doesnt apeal to her JP viewers she'd lose half her numbers or something.
That said this time is fine by me since im a morning person anyway as far as murica hours go. The midnight streams were what killed me, so if she keeps it around this time id be down.

>>1098099
She streamed at these times previously and her euros in chat would constantly complain that they weren't EU-friendly.

>>1098147
I don't know how she expects her channel to grow if she streams at these times. It's JP primetime when all the JP viewers are watching Undertale streamers. Even with shadowban if she streamed like 2 or 3 hours later she'd easily have double the viewers. It wouldn't be hard for her either since it's currently like 3pm in austria.

>>1098132
She used to stream when I commuted to work and this stream started 1 hour after that.

>>1098140
Jrpgs are a debuf, but ive never seen less than 6k on kiaras jrpg streams.

>>1098206
Well it's a good thing she plans on streaming a long time today anyway.

>>1098206
>if she streamed like 2 or 3 hours later she'd easily have double the viewers
soon. its just today

SOMEBODY MAKE THIS WOMAN A MOTHER

>>1098212
Her usual Ryza numbers are 3k, so 1.5k with the shadowban is to be expected.

>>1098256
Yeah that's fine, I was just hoping as a west coaster that she'd stream closer to like 8am-11am my time so it would fill a dead timeslot before Ina's afternoon streams for NEETs. Oh well.

at least the line is shorter

>>1098206
Yeah, honestly Kiara needs to get into her own time frame instead of trying to do this dumb "jp primetime" deal. Ina literally has 3pm est all to herself just about every day she streams. I dont know why she thinks overlapping with JP holos is ever a good idea for growth when most holofags, especially the JPs, are going to be watching their usual oshis.

I'm glad she's so happy to be back with her cats/roommate

>>1098285
I'm volunteering!

i want kiara to kiss and pet me like her cat
but it willl never happen....
why even live at this point?

You can stream any time of the day without much competition as long as you start before around 9pm or 10pm JP time.
Flare streamed about 6 hours practically on her own, then as soon as 10pm hit about 25 holos started.

Never thought I'd be so jealous of a fucking cat

>>1098280
who in the EU is she trying to cater to with that schedule? Wednesday might work, but Flare and Watame usually stream around that time, and given the choice I'll be watching either of those

>>1098330
Problem is she's a weeb so despite being part of HoloEN she has a fetish for JP viewers the same way the JP girls have a fetish for EN viewers, because they're exotic. Except unlike them the JP viewers aren't profitable and won't watch her because they have a million options in the same timeslot.

My dick

she will stream later soon.

>>1098401
Sorry for your taste then.

>>1098280
Can't wait for German with Gura btw

>>1098429
I really hope that works out because I think it could be perfect for her. Late morning chicken streams would be really nice. If the internet makes it impossible that'd really suck.

Kiara has fans all over the world, so stop whining about streaming times already. Somebody's gonna win and somebody's gonna lose no matter when Kiara streams.

>loving cats THAT much
Do you think she has the brain worm? I think she does.

>>1098502
It's not about which timezone she's catering to, it's the fact there's a ton of dead time between HoloJP and HoloEN and she's not taking advantage of it despite now living in a perfect timezone to do so. She'd have a complete monopoly instead of competing with all of JP.

Hololive EN

Kiara ¥7,877,632
Mori ¥5,397,190
Gura ¥5,332,444
Amelia ¥5,163,905
Ina ¥2,752,717

She really does have one of the best fan base in holo

>>1098560
At her age she wants to establish a family, but none of her relationships ever worked so she uses cats to compensate.

>>1098560
No. People with that have no motivation, are low energy, lazy, slightly depressed etc

She is the opposite.

I don't know how someone can hate this girl. Why would you ever want to harm someone as lovely as her??

>>1098667
eh... for fun

>>1098560
It's fascinating, this is the first time I'm getting so much insight into what a cat lady is like.
To be honest I didn't know girls could turn into cat ladies at such a young age. I always imagined them being much older.

Kiara, please play the game.

>>1098697
Cats are cute and girls like the cute things.

She's happy but this is going to double or triple the amount of times it takes her to complete games.

evil people did bad things to her at a young age. she probably has problems with close relationships. just let her enjoy her cats. where is the problem..

>>1098744
It'd be nice if she wasn't a Vtuber and we could actually see the cats in the background

>>1098624
>have no motivation, are low energy, lazy, slightly depressed etc
I, uh...

Does anyone else stream Ryza or is this Kiara's bit?

>>1098037

>>1098744
Don't worry anon, I'm sure she'll finish Ryza 2 just in time for the next debuff JRPG to come out!

>>1098863
Only Kiara cares about those games in Hololive

>buying a cintiq 24
>for this level of artistic skill

some day you will have money too if you work hard enough and stop shitposting

>I have a sweet tooth
>sweet tooth
Kiara ya be

sounds like she is really is planning to move out in the future, last stream had me a bit worried she'd just settle for her current situation.
more space so the cats don't hog all stream time and a nice prepared workspace to belt out karaoke at 3am would be nice

>>1099126
She confirmed she was going to move out time ago though.
She likes living alone and had a roommate out of necessity.

>>1099014
I can buy 5 cintiqs if I want to, I'm still drawing on bamboo one that I bought for ~100 bucks 5 years ago. For my skill it won't make a difference. It's just unnecessary spending is all. But I guess she achieved part of her dream with that, so good for her.

>>1099126
she confirmed last stream already shes moving out. probably in a couple weeks.
if shes clever she buys her own house in a comfy like this

>>1099241
>if shes clever she buys her own house in a comfy like this
That place looks like it has shitty internet though.

>>1099281
Starlink will save us, you just know Elon is the type to back vtubers

>>1099306
all the bandwidth in the world, but the latency will kill you

Kiara is basically buying her dream setup. Anyone would want to do it if they somehow became successful and money becomes a non-issue.

>>1099332
does it matter for streaming tho? who cares if there is a 10-20 sec delay in the chat before she can read your message?

I just masturbated to her roommate!

>>1099332
My man Linus tested it, latency is fine.

>>1099332
But Starlink latency is the same as a regular ISP, that's its whole gimmick. I've been actively following it because I live in a shitty rural area and the speed and latency is amazing, just sad that it's $100 a month

>>1099396
>why would streamer known for interacting with chat care about a 10-20 sec delay in chat

she gay?

>>1099412
we know, mori

>>1099498
They already put a delay on chat because EoPs like to flood them with memes

>>1099503
Her character she roleplays (Kiara) yes.
IRL? I'ts complicated.

>>1096802
WTF I love kiara now!!!!! fuck mushiefags!!!!!!

>>1099396
A couple days ago where youtube shit the bed hard, there was a significant delay for the stream viewers, as in several minutes long. Anyone who was streaming during that time was not very happy about it.

>>1099513
Kiara has the lowest delay on slow mode, and often just doesn't have it on.

She really should put Tao "AP Machine" Mongarten on the team. Her no males policy is gonna cost her some tough boss battles.

>doesn't even show she's streaming even if you're subscribed (and membered)
This is fucking disgusting.

Mushrooms smell like cum, that's why I don't eat them

>>1099622
>>1096818

>>1099622
im suprised she still gets 1-2k subs daily. no idea how tho. literally no1 can see her. its impossible for new people to even know she exists.

>>1099660
Here's to one of the few times youtube does things right!

am banned

Oh god, she's crying ....

>>1099678
That's "am bamboozled" to you

>2 K viewers
Even Uto the leech has more concurrent viewers than this. At least en 2 will finally kill this tard.

>>1099660
I can't keep it up I'm running out of warehouses to run these smartfridges in

All I want to do is kick the ass of the one who's making my oshi cry

Dont cry mama :(

I wish she'd realize that nearly 2k for a Ryza stream WHILE SHADOWBANNED is actually surprisingly good for her. I hate it when she's sad.

The fuck is holo tools?

>>1099822
I find Holodex easier to use.

They are basically hubs for Hololive related stuff and allow you watch streams there too.

Honestly Luna and reddit Dragon are having similar numbers to chicken while NOT being shadowbanned. Mel has lower (as expected) and sheep has higher but not by that much.

So her views are low but not absolute garbage.

>>1099861
? I don't underastand. I don't know that this is. Never heard of it.

>>1099822
Its a simple site that tracks all streams, ongoing and upcoming, for hololive and holostars. In Japanese though, its pretty straightforward.

>>1097777
no taste

>>1099928
just like Mushrooms

>>1099905
Coco isn't even playing right now, check her total views later

>>1099905
Her likes are way lower than usual though. It's really just the dedicated KFP that's staying from beginning to end with pretty much no tourists.

>>1099946
She's streaming though, still counts

>>1099281
depends, it looks like that where I live. we have Gigabit.

I'm very worried for her, i know directly from youtuber friends how much it sucks to deal with unfair platform bullshit messing with your job.
Hopefully it gets fixed soon, this is genuinely so shitty.
Even if you don't like her, at least hope she fails on her own merits instead of this shit.

why doesnt she play eu4 hoi4 ck3 or some shit like that? she would grow her fanbase like crazy. lots strategy autists who wish they had an oshi.

>>1100149
She is always unlucky. Always.

>>1100149
I remember when Youtube just randomly demonetized all the independent news anchors on their site and they all had a fucking freakout because they literally lost their entire source of income. All of them became Patreon jews overnight.

>>1100170
She doesn't play games she doesn't like. Also she's retarded as fuck bad at video games so strategy is a no-go to begin with.

>>1100027
Look bruh, I'm no Kiara-anti but to compare the end of Coco's stream when most people leave to someone playing a game isn't exactly honest. Don't know what's up with Luna though

>>1100221
SCreadings are still content. If reddit dragon doesnt want too many people to leave maybe she should do zatsudan like Kiara

>>1100170
> eu4
Watching people play mappainting games in real time is about as interesting as watching actual fucking paint dry

>>1100238
That's not even something unique to Coco though, SC reading is always the lowest point

>>1100238
I thought she did zatsudan style SC readings as well.
You could use Ame as example whose SC readings viewership keeps going down since it’s mostly a SC reading and not much talking last time I watched.

>>1100241
the next dlc has a huge update to indonesia, lots of content around the SEA region. you should be happy.

with that being said, im gonna play prussia and colonize the fuck out of that region

>>1100238
Pretty sure Coco does zatsudans too, I'm not sure what you're talking about.

What is she just make a throwaway channel just for stream announcements? So people would see stream started and go to actual stream by clicking on the link?

>>1100263
Yes, but Kiara's SC reading while doing debuff games don't drop much.

This game unironically looks fun. I'm glad she's playing it. Too bad it is console only. Would play along if it was on PC.

>>1100315
EN has some dedicated fanbases that stick around for everything. That's why their declining viewer numbers doesn't bother me, I know its just retarded secondaries getting bored

>>1100315
Her debuff games tend to have her core bedrock viewership anyways.

>>1099619
IIRC in Ryza 1, Empel had the most item slots for battle right? She also benched him. Tenchou please...

>>1100425
Just think of it as a challenge run of sorts...

lol her male voice acting

>>1099822
Search holotools on Google, Enter the reddit post and read. It's a site where You can't watch streams simultaniosly also it shows the schedule

>>1100449
Being her is already challenge enough while playing games.

>>1100449
The panic final boss fight at the end of Ryza 1 was pretty entertaining, I hope something like it happens again.

>>1100505
That's fair. And her just unlocking the super moves after that battle adds to the hilarity.

>it's like a timeloop

>We're stuck in a timeloop
SHE'S HERE

Holy shit

>>1100348
Ryza 2? It's on steam.

>>1100170
When it comes to strategy games, Fire Emblem is about as complicated as she is going to get. And even then she wasnt particularly good at it.
I would love to see her play Valkyria Chronicles 4. I think she would enjoy that. But there really isnt an easy way to suggest it to her. Im not going to drop a $100 red SC just to possibly have it ignored.

>>1100660
I don't think she's ever played a game because of a red, terrible use of money. Spamming when she's on a tangent is a better idea.

>>1100656
Strange. I clicked on the link she linked her stream and it didnt mention steam.

>>1100749
Digital tab.

I hate that rpgs are considered debuff games. They're so fun.

>>1100656
>>1100816
Do you recommend playing the prequel first?

>>1101043
What does this even mean? Unpopular? Since when are RPGs considered that?

>>1101067
They're not unpopular to play, they're just boring to watch.

>>1101055
It's not necessary, but preferable. A couple characters make a cameo and the plot ultimately ties back to the plot of the first game. Also, that way you'll see how much gameplay mechanics improved.

>>1101067
It just means that most viewers don't tend to stick around watching them. JRPGs in particular tend to shed viewers.

i find it so funny that kiara is constantly talking about her roommate which confuses the fuck out of newfags

>>1101141
Reminds me of the early weeks, when people in chat called Endermen Kiara's roommate... kek

>>1101141
>confuses the fuck out of newfags
More like it confuses retards. Who refers to themselves as "my roommate"?

>>1101141
That's her cats, right

>>1101183
yes anon, her neatly trimmed cats

>>1101225
I'm not actually listening to Kiara, just have her up in a tab with PiP

>>1101067
Jrpgs tend to filter normies because they dont care about the story just the action, and people who like jrpgs tend to not watch them to stay unspoiled. From there the remaining viewers slowly die out, since once you miss one stream, you're bassicly forced to go back and watch the previous streams, meaning less live viewers as it goes, and no new viewers since they'll get lost in the plot if they jump in on stream 3 or something.
I love jrpgs, but they will bleed you viewers until you're only left with a dedicated few.
With the shadowban fucking up this stream, im expecting a lot less next ryza stream due to people needing to catch up

I don't know why but I still get Kiara's vids in my subscription tab, the only thing that changed for me is that she doesn't show up anymore in my recommendations.

Outside of Nier, can't we recommend her a more exciting (somewhat recent) JRPG to play? I've accepted that JRPGs is where Kiara's heart is, but at the very least she could play something that's a little better regarded.
How is Bravely Default, would that be more engaging than Ryza?

Chat, please, she doesn't have enough brain capacity to play Monhun.

Holy fuck is that a 5 hour stream? I'm so proud of kiara putting in all the work despite her shitty numbers due to shadowban. I would be so salty and demotivated.

>>1101311
Kingdom hearts trilogy gets remaster/release on PC soon i believe. Epic games exclusive tho. Maybe she's into that?

>>1101311
Man, I'd be thrilled to watch Kiara do a Final Fantasy Tactics playthrough but she's probably gonna get filtered.

>>1101252
that's okay, I don't watch her either

>>1101324
Thank the cats for cheering her up. In the long run, it's better that they're with her, even if we'll be getting the occasional cat-related tangent.

>>1101055
Prequel is a good game. Fairy Tail uses the same engine and is also good, but a lot more braindead.

>>1101311
Valkyria Chronicles!
too bad it'll never happen

>>1101338
she doesn't like the art style / disney thing. I understando

I want kiara to play Ookami

Imagine her playing Dark Souls. It would unironically be one of her best playthroughs on youtube.

I want kiara to play with my penis and make it feel good

>>1101538
she already said no stop bothering her

>>1101521
Which one? I think DS3 is the best as far as linearity goes for a new player, I can imagine 3 streams of Kiara dying in the graveyard in DS1.

>>1101402
>>1101095
Thanks.
Might pick them up in a steam sale.

>>1101311
I mean she has xenoblade planned down the line once she clears up her games list.
Other than that, I cant think of much within her current permissions that she would play since she has coomer brain and would only play for cute girls. Closest would be VC like >>1101406 suguested just for Raita designs, but not sure if the military stuff would attract her right off the bat.

>>1101580
DS1 or DES remake. Would be stupid to start with DS3 as the first game.

>>1100636
THE NUMBERS KIARA, WHAT DO THEY MEAN?!

>>1101311
Not exactly a JRPG but she's repeatedly voiced interest in playing Zelda games. She just needs to actually fucking do it already.

Guys, Kiara is eating a lot of chocolate today... I don't want her to get fat!

>>1101615
She'd probably buy the buggy Switch version though.

>>1101668
Maybe she'll play that skyward sword port since its liner as shit and is chronologically the first game, so not a bad start. Botw is ok, but way too open ended for Kiara who needs her hand held and told where to go all the time

>>1101688
she always eats lots of shit like this. even for breakfast. i dont think she will ever get fat tho

>>1101725
That's what women all say until they hit the wall and suddenly gain 100 lbs out of nowhere

What the fuck?!

>cuts cat furr
Kiara wtf is wrong with you

now she's a crazy cat phoenix

People who don't give Kiara a chance miss out on all the based insane things she does

We love this menhera don't we KFP

she had to polaroids of her cats with fur taped on the backside. very..... cute? lets go with cute.

>Kiara is LITERALLY a crazy cat lady

spin the wheel, what crazy thing are we learning today

>>1101779
>he doesnt treasures the pubes of his former girlfriends
fuck off sick bastard

>>1101763
only spic women do that.

>>1101763
Especially those who say they don't have to watch what they eat. It usually happens before they hit 30, they go to bed with a chocolate aftertaste still lingering, and wake up and BAM Jabba The Hutt

>>1101311
I don't think any JRPG will be that great because missing a stream makes you not want to watch the rest and there's a ton of uninteresting grinding content.

Regardless, I like how Kiara does what she wants even if it's for a niche audience. If Kiara was a real numberfag, she'd wouldn't play all these debuff games.

>>1101779
This seems normal after knowing a girl who dressed them up in outfits.

Alright lads, she's a lost cause, even with a baby she'll also require 30 cats to fill the void.

My rrat is that the reason she pushes yuri so hard is because she really really really wants to be an idol so she puts everything into overdrive to see what works and what selle

wait is she playing that game on steam? i heard steam screenshot sounds.

>>1098624
>>1098850

If you are talking about toxoplasmosis. it makes people more prone to thrill seeking. An insane amount of people dying in motorbike accidents have toxoplasmosis.

>>1102006
Its just daddy issues turning her into a lesbian.

>>1102014
plus her loading screens are SSD like super fast now that i think about it.

>>1102014
Yes.

THE GREATER GOOD

>>1102046
daddy issues do the opposite. they desperately crave men attention.

she pushes yuri because 1. its her kiara character 2. maybe because of her traumatic past phoenix live. we dont know for sure

>>1101984
I'd fill her if you know what i mean

>>1102038
Oh, alright, that was a close one then. I don't seek anything dangerous or extreme.
>>1102006
No, it's a psychological effect of being traumatized by/scared of men.

>>1102088
Kiara's a weaboo, so she probably also consumed doujins and that. Porn adicction makes you a fag, apply to men and women. Porn made her gay. I dont complain tho

>>1102126
ironically she doesnt strike me as someone who consumes porn lol

>>1100000

SHE'S HERE

>>1102165
She seemed pretty interested in lewd Takamori fanart when she was asked about it back in December.

incoming rrat spam: kiara hates pekora!!!

THE RRATS

>>1102186
Funny is that before she said that she prefers that any action more than kiss would stay private to Calli and Kiara and not made it fan art, but she change her opinion it seems. Now he's fucking thirst for more Mamaloni drawings

>I don't want to meet Pekora
RRATS?!?!!.

>>1102283
If they met IRL, she wouldn't be able to hold back cutting Pekora's hair and keeping it.

WHO OF YOU FUCKERS DID THAT

>>1102354
?

>>1102283
she's no doxfag and doesn't want to know the roommate.

>>1102367
>>1102046

I really want to fly to Austria, Marry tenchou and make sure she's happy everytime. i fucking love her, where is my meds

>>1101813
I am too. But my cat hate me.

>>1102415
daddy issues is a running gag since one of the first streams

>>1102507
>>1101813
cats are based, fuck dogs
t.dog and cat owner

DST?

>Have the stream open and running in the background with the sound on
>YouTube still doesn't show it in the active streams
Fuck me, do they just hate Austr(al)ians?

>>1102696
It started before she left Japan.

>>1102739
Yeah, she was Austr(al)ian even before she left nipland. That's how that works.

Imagine sloppy make outs with kiara, exploring her mouth which tastes entirely like Australian chocolate

>She fucking anihilated that guy

I'm laughing so fucking hard hahahahaha I need to practice more

>>1102785
What did he do since she is kys'd him

>>1102767
Anon I'm at work.

>>1102767
Imagine Kiara coocking you a austrian breakfast everymorning and giving you a kiss on the cheeks while shes doing cafe

>Kiara is having menhera moments on stream now
Youtube-kun onegai

>>1102807
RIP LFTT
There's always next time.

>>1102807
You tried at least. Better luck next time

>>1102938
I could've worded that a little bit better, but youtube kun started to lag out of nowhere and I just wanted to send it
(Not the first cringe shit I send though hahaha)

>>1103000
what did you send? i was distracted

>>1103027
N-nothing happened

>>1103000
Well she streamed in a weird time slot and got a weird superchat. All according to keikaku or something.

>>1101169
When you're a face character actor at a Disney park, you are never supposed to say "I play X" if someone asks you about it. You're supposed to say "I'm friends with X", and for a long time they actually did it. Whenever the concept is that a character is real/alive there is often a hard separation from the character like that.

>>1103153
My other cringe SC was on another JRPG stream with low views
At least JRPGs are protecting me on this one lol
Also she liked a tweet I made about that, it's all Gucci

>>1102807
What the fuck were you trying to say though, like, for real

what did i miss? i wanna know too

>>1102542
Virgin "unconditional love and obedience" vs chad "freethinking predator"

>>1103391
Kiara shaved her cat on stream, after receiving a superchat suggesting she should do it. She was like "Fuck this Ryza 2 shit" followed by irritated cat noises.

>>1103498
wait i'm confused. is cat a codeword for pussy?
what's going??

>>1103307
I believe there'll be a chance for redemption. Anything that can get Kiara to act cute is a win for me, and she was being cute today as well (amidst the confusion).

>>1103556
her actual cats, she kept their fur when she went to japan for that whole year.

My cat is a short hair one with a white coat. I don't think I'd ever cut a lock of hair from it more than i would just scoop up shedding and put it in a bag. At least she doesn't shave one in its entirety except for the head so it looks goofy.

>>1103710
If they have longer hair and won't let you brush them every day sometimes they can get knots that you have to cut off.

>>1103809
That makes sense. My boy is pretty self sufficient and doesn't get sick so I miss out on a lot of cat care tricks despite having a little lion next to me a lot.

i can never forgive the chicken

>>1103647
Yes but only a little amount of fur

Did I hear that right, does she really want to taxidermy her cats when they pass away?

>>1104577
Yeah, she wants to stuff her pussy once it's past her prime

Some people think she got flagged due to nene accidentally logging into her account.

https://twitter.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1365157406527791106

There's also this which some people traced back to the weird outage youtube had.

>>1104817
Youtube's been acting strange, I wonder what's going on. I don't think hololive can survive on another platform

I've always buried my pets. Returning them to the earth and all that. I remember my brother used to have a few parakeets (or budgies as some call them) and had a lot pass suddenly I think due to fighting for some reason.
Their final resting box was a McDonald's 20 piece chicken mcnugget box so some poor sod is going to open that box one day and just find a bunch of bird bones.

>>1104817
How can you even "accidentally" log into someone's account. You must know the password and shit.

>>1104987
Kiara logged in on Nene's PC.

>>1104817
Nene happened at least a two days before, I'm not sure that fits.

>>1104817
>Nene literally got Kiara deplatformed
Another entry to Nene's list of crimes against humanity. At this rate she will have Daiz beat in no time at all. Is her ultimate goal to kill vtubing?

>>1104987
if i remember correctly kiara was at nene's place during the collab. the stream was on her channel, so she had to log into youtube from nene's pc / IP .
when nene wanted to stream she was probably still logged into kiaras account. thats my guess.

>>1105119
Nene was the hero turned villain all along.

>>1104817
lol for a second I thought Hardware Unboxed would be revealed as Kiara simps. I mean, they are from Australia so it would make sense for them to stand with their fellow Australian.

Iirc cover is talking to youtube on Kiara's behalf so I assume something will be done.
Google and its subsidiaries are really good at looking like dickheads though. "Oh it's a bot I'm sorry we'll fix it." That ain't gonna work forever.

>>1105227
Looks like YouTube just responded to him a few hours ago telling him to wait for an email from their team.

>>1104987
Nene is master hax0r. Your 4chan account is next, buddy

>>1105239
Took them a month to re-monetize Suisei tho. THey're slow as fuck, especially since they fired all their human staff due to the chink flu

>>1105239
>cover doing anything
>youtube doing anything
KFPbros, I don't feel so good...

i really hope she does not get demotivated. imagine doing a 6 hour stream for 1.7k people
she is one of the most hardworking holos yet gets traited like shit. i would be salty as fuck

>>1105422
At least we'll get some beautiful schadenfreude from the sunshine stream later

>the numbers really do drop right after O'reinds

>>1105505
no they dont. Her superchat reading and Slither.io stream have normal numbers for what these streams are.

>>1105541
because it was her last day(s) in japan so many people watched it.
she was shadow banned since the nene thing. we dont know if its her fault or not. can be a coincedence.

>>1105587
anon, meds, everyone saw those streams in their box, and she has almost always made a mention of it when she was shadowbanned, it didn't kick in until she wrapped up and the waiting room was born.

>>1105422
Someone's never seen Choco stream Apex before.

>>1105505
Why would nene do this

time to spam the following threads:
>why did nene do this?
>does she deserve the love?
>does she deserve the hate?
> i cant forgive nene for what she did
>i think nene should be punished

>>1105239
Youtube doesn't even acknowledge shadowbans are a thing. And nobody, not even Pewdiepie, is big enough to avoid getting fucked over randomly by their shitty algorithms. It's quite sad we have to deal with this cancerous fucking monopoly.

>>1105832
but if it happens with pewdiepie it will be fixed within a day. thats the difference.
there is actually a high chance kiara will stay shadowbanned forever

>>1105760
Don't forget:
>how can we fix her?
>what went wrong?
>what's the appeal?
>why is she so hated?

>>1105832
They are bullshitting and just put blame on something they made. I don't believe that YT can't solve this. You'd think that Hololive could fix it. If not, then I guess she will have to start over.

>>1105874
I saw some KFPs get responses from the YouTube Twitter regarding the vids not showing up. Haven’t really dug more into it though.

>>1104866
I read a paper that when people rely on a monopoly to make their investments useful, the monopoly tends to slowly squeeze them as they grow. In this case, it's by neglect.

>>1105874
Pewdiepie's shadowban lasted a couple of days I believe.

>>1105900
oh yeah since im only on this shithole board here i totally forgot there is a literal KFP army. why are they not more vocal about this? they should spam the fuck out of youtube till its fixed.

>>1106020
too busy rping

>>1098866
You've commited crimes against Norway and her people. As a fellow Nordmann I disown you and declare you Swedish

>>1106020
I mean, If it's not raid, but a letter. And we are too lazy to search where to write the complains. Some instructions about what should letter contain would also be nice.

>>1106141
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>1106201
i dont know man spam #FreeTheChicken at youtube or something like that. mass protests on twitter ALWAYS win, everytime.
currently its just her manager talking with youtube and that wont do shit

>>1105832
Honestly the existence of shadowbans isn't a bad thing. It's like anti-cheat, they can't tell anyone what triggers it, then people would just circumvent it. The real issues are that there are too many false positives and CS is too slow to address them.

>>1106202
truly a fate worse than death, you have my sympathies
t.Estonian

>>1106276
You don't need to make a gay hashtag for it, anon. Honestly (unless it's not allowed by management or whatever) Kiara should make a tweet telling YT to fix her shit and let people spam their @ in the same thread, it's practically the only semi-reliable way to get actual human support from those people.

>>1106654
well then lets hope she hurries the fuck up and does that

>>1106654
>>1106276

KFP!
Of Australia!
My brothers!
I see in your eyes the same frustration that would bring down a VTuber.
A day may come when the loyalty of KFP fails, when we forsake our KFP titles and file a resignation request, but it is not this day!
An hour of rrats and shadowbanned accounts, when the age of Hololive comes crashing down, but it is not this day!
This day we fight!
By all that you hold dear on this good Internet, I bid you stand, Kiara Fried Phoenix!

If the shadowban was caused by her posting 4 polls, you can blame dlove for that.

Also, I wonder what it is about Kiara and Mori that they consistently get high superchat numbers relative to their subscriber count.

>>1106977
LOTR(extended version of course) watchalong when?

>>1107003
I'm not sure if it was that, she was alreadly Shadowbanned before the polls, but it might have made it worse since youtube is going after everyone who did it now.

>>1106977
I've got Sting at the ready, and it's glowing blue.

>>1098560
If you were a cat parent, you'd understand.

>>1107437
>cat parent
Anon, I...

>>1107437
>cat parent
Equal mix of disgust and anger.jpg.

>>1107352
>pajeet coders are nearby

>>1107282
because of that spiffing brit faggot right?

>>1107003
>Also, I wonder what it is about Kiara and Mori that they consistently get high superchat numbers relative to their subscriber count.
They both read names and reds as far as I know. Kiara's is obvious because of the famous tangents.

>>1107091
I recently rewatched those movies for the umpteenth time.
Bros, why don't they make them like this anymore? Did we really peak already and it's just all downhill from here?

>>1107542
Gotta handle them like the spiders I suppose. I'm a long way from the shire.
God now I'm in a mood. Just imagine sitting Kiara down with the book with the movie shire music playing where Bilbo meets Gandalf. Letting her meet characters like Bombadil for the first time and seeing characters she knows in a new light.
First fiction I ever read was the hobbit in middle school. It was so cozy. I would have never imagined decades later we'd see Smaug on the big screen.

>>1107657
I admit I never read the books, though I absolutely adore the movies.
That aside, that's a pretty picture you're painting there, but it requires getting Kiara to read something that isn't a manga. It would certainly require some effort, though maybe since she loves LOTR she'd be somewhat receptive.

>>1107591
because there was only 1 black guy in the entire trilogy. and it was an orc.
cant have that in 2021

>>1107838
You're both missing out. Movies are nice but seeing actors act something out will never replace the magic of your imagination. Plus filmmakers are notorious for cutting content either to fit screen time or make some things more palatable but reading is so vital. Like amazingly so. You won't regret trying a fantasy book. I liked animorphs too and if I watched a movie of it there wouldn't have been nearly the impact.
I'm a little biased I guess but it's such an overlooked medium nowadays and it shouldn't be. It can even help language proficiency.

>>1107939
>but seeing actors act something out will never replace the magic of your imagination.
This requires people to have a well developed enough imagination for that, unfortunately many do not. As someone who does though I agree, I've never seen a movie or show that was better than the book for me.

>>1107939
I read books, I just haven't read LOTR yet as I'm more into sci-fi and detective fiction. You can enjoy the magic of books and movies alike when they're well done.

>>1107939
Not him but I have a very shitty imagination and I have trouble imagining most stuff that happens in a book, it's not full blown aphantasia but it's not that good either. That being said I did read the books and I really liked them.

>>1107973
There has to be a way. It's like that dumb red apple test. The idea that people can't just make a bushel of 3D apples instantly with an entire orchard with farm hands helping in the harvest does worry me.
But its like the goosebumps series of books where you had to make a decision and then flip to a certain page to see what happened in a choose your own adventure book but then after reading it like three times you just flip through all the pages to see what could have happened if you thought differently.
My booknerd is showing. Shy mode goooooo

>>1108114
>a bushel of 3D apples instantly with an entire orchard with farm hands helping in the harvest
Yeah I can't do that for example, it's too complex for my mind, especially without a recent point of reference.

>>1108098
>aphantasia
ah, so that's what it's called.
I enjoy reading books tho

have an old german LotR shitpost, 50/50 on whether Kiara has seen it
I even found a version with (bad) subtitles, time stamped for frog voice acting
https://youtu.be/DPVKaj9hVcY?t=348

>>1108174
I mean, everyone's different. There's nothing wrong with the way you see things. I just have a lot of world building constantly going on in my head.
>>1108302
I know what I'll watch when i get home. Hehehe.

>>1105760
>>1105882
I'm skeptical that it's Nene's fault, but even if it was I hope no KFP seriously goes after her about it. Nene is such a sweetie and I don't think Kiara would be happy about KFP going after her friend.

>>1107003
>>1107282
Any particular reason why posting polls would cause a shadowban? Or is it just "youtube lol"?

Damn, this is just making me regret what happened with the Hobbit trilogy. Though watching the movies with Kiara would at least be entertaining.

>>1108378
1.
no KFP would do that. but it will still happen. it will be the shizo falseflagging.

2. because of spiffing brit. he ruined it.

>>1108378
With regards to the poll thing, it's hard to say since YouTube has done fuck all about every other method of algorithm manipulation but I know Google has gotten pretty pissed about that in the past. When Rapgenius was found out to be manipulating SEO Google tanked their results so they wouldn't show up when you searched for them as punishment. Shadow banning seems to me like an algorithmic version of that, though probably one less effective and prone to more false positives than Google's previous targeted punishment.

lel chicken latest video 37k views.
before shadowban, it was average around 130k per video. Ina currently has 120k average.

chicken is done
most people will jump to other vtubers because they don't even know chicken still exists. it will be very hard to recover from that. even if she got unbanned today, it would still look super bad in the statistic and the algorithm would think she sucks.

rrat: she will graduate in 2021 because of this.

>>1108485
Sounds like YouTube is being a bitch when people find out they're operating poorly. It used to be you would get rewarded for finding flaws in security, not be the target of a shitfit.

>>1108751
You know as someone who would kill for those numbers retiring over it would be retarded.
But yeah she just spent a few months building an audience and then swapped to a new time slot. Of course not everyone's going to follow, everyone has obligations.

>>1104817
Those guys just got their account unshadowed, wonder if we'll see any change with Tenchou soon.

Why did Kiara get shadowbanned?

>>1108923
i know 40k~ views average per video isnt bad in itself. but its demotivating as fuck, trust me. especially since you had more than 3 times of that. not only that, but its the uncertainty if things will ever get better or not. its a constant downer.
if she still wants to keep up and not look like one of the biggest losers in hololive, she will need to work even harder and harder, more more.
and it would still become worse over time.
for example, i dont even have twitter . i dont use reddit. i have no discord or whatever. i just use youtube. if it wasnt for this board here i wouldnt even know if she streams.
many people are like this. they are not checking daily on her twitter or look for her reddit posts. it will be less and less views until only the core audience is left, the most dedicated fans.
it doesnt matter wether YOU think 37k views is enough. it matters what SHE thinks. and im pretty sure she doesnt like it.
even within COVER it will look bad. she will be one of the lowest ranking members there. a nobody.
you think she gonna get a 3D model? or many sponsors?

do you know what i mean? this sucks.

>>1109046
Well they actually tweeted directly to YT, meanwhile Kiara has to wait for a bunch of retarded nips to communicate with a bunch of similarly retarded pajeets to get anything done.

>>1109205
>Kiara has to wait
She got her channel back in a day when it got deleted.

>>1109174
there are a couple rrats about this.

>nene logging into her account
>kiara switching thumbnails during her livestream waiting room
>kiara doing multiple community polls right after the spiffing brit community poll exploit
>said bad words

YouTube needs to put an end to Numbers.
Subscriber count should be private.
View count should be private.
Live view count should be private.
Comment count should be private.
They shouldn't be sending out those plaques for subscriber milestones.
Then, and only then, may we finally focus on the quality, and not the quantity.
Then we may finally root out the evils of pointless competition.

>>1109176
Yeah that's true. The only thing i can think of is she'll need to appeal to American audiences again. I know she likes Japan and Europe but her genmates got fuckhuge for surprise...streaming in English to an American time zone. (Yes Mori is an exception but she had previous stuff going on.)
There's just not enough JapEuro on a population scale. Japan is the size of like Montana and Texas eats Europe. She doesn't understand the scale and why I got up at fucking 1am to tell her to stream American Primetime. It wasn't just for my benefit.
Streaming to Japanese audiences her numbers match Japanese holo. Big shock.
I'm like you though. If it wasn't for this thread I'd probably be suffocating in work. Big tech media is unpopular despite its following. I want to help the birb but I'm at a loss at what to say you know?

>>1109275
you dont get it. KIARA would still see her low view count and get demotivated. it doesnt matter what WE think about numbers.
imagine doing 6 hour streams for 1.7k people daily.

>>1109314
population us 330 million, eu + uk 500 million

>>1109314
The best thing you can do is not panic.

>>1109376
Stop it with the doomposting already. Also need to learn context.
First of all, the peak was a little above 2k.
Secondly, it was a Ryza stream.
Thirdly, it was JP primetime.
Fourthly, Kiara was still shadowbanned.
Even so, some Hololive members have less than that on average and they can still live comfortably.
Kiara will settle one day and she'll be fine with this, once the VTuber fad fades. She's just being more proactive now while she's got a chance to expand.

>>1109379
yeah i was gonna say lol. texas population 29m. germany alone is 84m.
add the rest of europe to that. france, spain, italy, UK, russia etc

lets hope yt unbans her channel soon, that'll be the biggest boost. then she'll stream europe evenings, which isn't too bad for americans

>>1109379
I honestly didn't think they had that many people there. Point still stands though. I doubt all of them understand and consume English media. (Yes i know it's the language of trade and airspace but still.)
>>1109443
Deep breaths. I just want to see birb girl succeed. Dunno why really but I'm invested.

>>1109454
>>1109541
and thats just european union. the whole continent is over 750 million people.
everybody understands english.

>>1109581
>everybody understands english
Clearly you've never been to Eastern Europe.

>>1109644
about half ( so still more than US population ) speak english

>>1109738
quick question is that statistic what is spoken as a percentage of the then members of the EU, or does it exclude countries where the language is official?

>>1109448
Even with all that, didn't she still get a good amount of superchats? I only caught the last half of the stream live but it seemed like that from the superchat reading.

>>1109738
I dunno man. My second language is Japanese and yeah I can read write and talk but I can't watch JP content without catching a lot of blanks and getting lost a bunch. So I can say I can understand English but like, you know how Japanese people have to take mandatory English in school? You've seen Japanglish. Don't lie.

>>1109738
Culture is a bigger factor than language. Case in point: EOPs watching HoloJP without understanding them.
Anime isn't as big in Europe as it is in NA for instance. However, I'm hoping Kiara will still get a small boost for being the only HoloEU so far, who'll (hopefully) continue streaming in EU-friendly times.

>>1109818
i think they mean it like this: if you go to a random city in a random european country, there is only 1% chance you meet a person that speaks russian ( even tho russian is most spoken language in europe)
meanwhile if you meet 10 random people, about 3 of them are able to speak german, and half of them english. if that makes sense

>>1109852
Despite it all she's still making bank. Lol.

>>1109852
Yeah, Kiara's SC numbers are crazy. It hasn't been half a year and she's already the 34th superchatted YT channel worldwide.

>>1109883
the audience isnt her problem dude. her biggest problem is the shadow ban for reasons which i explained above. it completely fucks up her channel. call it doom posting or whatever but its true.

it sucks and is demotivating.
and if this keeps going on i honestly feel she MIGHT quit in 2021. thats what i fear

>>1109897
I guess that makes sense, still a little confusing to me

>>1109941
I mean, sure the shadowban isn't helping, but come on. It's only been 1 video and 2 streams since the shadowban. Wait at least one more week before spelling out all this doom and gloom.

>>1109883
>anime is not as big in Europe
I have to disagree (though my evidence is completely anecdotal)

>>1109997
Fun pop culture fact nobody is going to care about but at the start of the Industrial Revolution when the silk road was a thing Englishmen and women who became obsessed with Japanese silk and their unique cultural trinkets were said to have come down with a case of Japanisma. It's a real thing. Ye olden weebs from days long past.

>>1110060
Ah, so the first /jp/posters were brits? Kinda based, I must say.

>>1110060
Stop calling them women in 2021
It's womxn. They don't want the word MEN in it.

With all the doomposting here I would have thought this was discord.
Kiara is probably the last person who would quit Hololive. I can see her going down with the ship if it ever happens.
She has said it herself on stream, she's just a very emotional person and it tends to cause KFP to freak out.

>>1110136
>>>>>>>>>/pol/

>>1110136
Why must the world be the way it is. Sigh.

>>1110150
is there really doomposting on discord? i thought its a pure happy whiteknight hugging fest to be honest lol

>>1110150
Yeah I fear this would cause a feedback loop that would make Kiara even more distressed about her situation. If she sees that KFP are constantly talking about it (as they were in today's stream), then she'll be more upset about it herself. We should be trying to alleviate her concerns instead and just have a good time.

>>1109941
The worst thing I can see happening if Cover can't get it fixed is her not investing money in the channel like with Hinotori or Heart Challenger.

>>1110186
I'm hoping that one day this will all burst from within and we'll all look back and laugh at how ridiculous these years were.

>Kiara quitting
worst case is another subChannel like Choco
or even just retire the old account and do a company wide push to get her caught up again. being a corporate vtuber does come with some perks.

>>1110194
Before Kiara moved out it was literal hours of doomposting about potential things that could go bad. Doesn’t help that mods contributed to the doomposting.
Put some faith in your oshi at least.

>>1110249
Same.

>>1110060
English gardens were basically just English people trying to emulate Japanese gardens. Can confirm, Japanese gardens are pretty, and English gardens are just Japanese gardens with less symbolism but more botany

>>1110364
As an English/German amerimutt I've had the same compulsion to do one of those. God is Japanisma hereditary? Oh no. Oh well.

>>1110287
I don't doompost and I don't lack faith in Kiara...
...but is it normal that the first thing I do when I wake up is check her Twitter and see how she's doing? Why do I care so much?!

>>1110136
Kek, glad I live in a country where the word for woman doesn't contain man.

Anyway, is there such a thing as a permanent shadow ban on youtube?

>>1110287
I feel like cause Kiara tends to visibly worry about a few things KFP will do it as well but way worse.

>>1110461
I'm asking myself the same questions. I check bookmarks after work and this woman has admittedly read my name and text a few times and knows I exist, but outside of that she's on the other side of the world.
What.

>>1110530
pretty much this. Kiara is just extremely open so even if something bothers her a little, she'll just blurt it out. some people misconstrue that as Kiara being so bothered by something that she's just dying to say it and is suppressing an even stronger feeling. but really it's just the fact that Kiara literally can't decide not to say something that pops into her head.

>>1110548
>>1110461
that's your paternal instinct kicking in

Despite all this doom talk, all I can see is the opposite. She's been dealing with this for quite some days now and had a stressful move back home full of regrets. Despite all of this, her mood last stream was exceedingly good. Does this not fill you with confidence? Being back home with her cats is such a buff to her mental well-being, it's insane

>>1110632
She's gotten a lot better than when she first started.
First month Kiara would've broken down on stream and started crying.

>>1110632
Yeah, I'm so glad that she's with them now. You can just feel her beaming with happiness whenever she talks about them. Having that kind of company, especially through the night, is definitely going to be a boon.

>>1110632
She bounced back immediately back when her channel got deleted, and turned it around into the biggest boost of her career so far. I don't know where these people who think she'll be broken over this are coming from.

>>1110632
I think people underestimate how much of Kiara's stress stemmed from her living situation in Japan. I mean she had fucking rodents in her house and is obviously afraid of rats. She felt alienated from the public as a foreigner living in Japan (something she often mentioned). Being home has to be a huge relief to her and I bet she is even sleeping better than she has in ages.

>>1110739
Emotional scars from the early days, I guess.
When you've already seen Kiara at her lowest and you know what that feels like, you don't want to see it repeated.

anyone wanna make new thread or should i do it?

>>1110828
Yup. Some people don't know about her past live. You should have seen how close she was to suicide. She never mentioned it directly but you could see how utterly broken she was. Don't wanna see that again.

>>1110788
Personally I would never choose living in Tokyo over living in Austria. Going by the Sound of Music watchalong, the place she lives in is pretty nice, or at least close to nice touristic places like many places in Europe. East Asian cities are the closest thing you can get to a cyberpunk dystopia, in comparison. Tokyo is already bad for Japanese migrants, I can't imagine what it's like to live there for a while as a foreigner.

>>1110847
here ya go
>>1110902

>>1110788
I hope she'll feel even better once she's out of quarantine and actually gets to see her family. I also hope her mom will be as supportive as possible.

>>1110739
While I agree and applaud her attitude when that happened, I think the situation is worse now. At that time, she just joked about it and was confident it would get solved really fast. The gravity of the situation did not set in for her since she was "lucky" that it took so little time for the issue to get fixed. Now, she can't just brush it aside and has to come to terms with the uncertainty that comes with her situation. That is why I was so glad to see her great mood last stream and am filled with confidence for the future.