/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>10969634
Markets and audience retention have hard numerical limits anon don't be retarded

>>10969634
>AHHHHH, VSHOJO HAS PEEPEE POOPOO HUMOUR, NIJISANJI INTERACTS WITH MEN, PPG, CYBERLIVE AND TSUNDERIA ALL CATER TO NICHES I DON'T LIKE WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH BE MORE LIKE MY HOLOWHORES EVEN THOUGH I'LL NEVER WATCH YOU.

>nijicuck bait thread #8239849324389243943943998982234253456457762342343

post it

>>10969634
Companies that care about their talents give them a year to establish a fanbase before dumping another gen onto the market. It would be really stupid and wasteful to do something like release 4 waves within in a 6 month period, it robs all the attention from each preceding gen before they can get their max potential following.

>>10970069

>>10970069
this isn't true holofag, stay in your bubble before you talk about things you don't know about.

>>10970152
post some numbers then faggot

>>10970152
>he says while nijishitters pull 1k viewers each
rumao

>>10970069
>It would be really stupid and wasteful to do something like release 4 waves within in a 6 month period
>what is Nijisanji 2019 debut spam, who contain a ton of top performers

The bigger question is why is it okay for them boost their MVs by putting them in youtube ads. Just just screams scummy and saying you have no confidence that people will watch the song without the help. Just compare the debut MVs from back then to where it is now, it's clear they would've performed horribly without the youtube ad boost. Diamond City Lights has 1.2m views after being out for over 4 months vs. Country Roads at 3.1m released at around the same time.

>>10969742
What market do you think Nijisanji is operating in? The vtuber market hit oversaturation ages ago, hence all of the 0view indies on Twitch. As for audience retention, Lazulight and Obsydia were both sitting at around an average 1.5k (yes yes far from Hololive numbers but that's been the case from the beginning) views yesterday, so whatever that hard limit is they're far from hitting it.

>>10970357
because us nijiCHADS are rich unlike you holoKEKS who can't afford to pay for proper rigging or mixing. Seethe more holoNigNog

>>10970357
>Advertising is scummy
Actual retardation

>>10970357
>NOOOOOOOO not a corporation advertising
retarded commie

>>10970357
>it's not okay because my tribe didn't get to do it!!!

Just watch what you want to watch, simple as.

>>10971104
I haven't enjoyed a single chuuba stream in like 6 months desu

>>10971401
Take a break from watching anon. Burnout is real especially when its the same games on a cycle

>>10969634
"Please I'm so worried about the growth of Nijisanji please don't release new vtubers"- Hololive fan

>>10970069
You all said the same thing about Obsydia yet they brought new fans who previously didn't care about Lazulight

>>10970357
Only numberfags care about this anon. Ad views of the songs cost them money instead of bringing it in, and the songs' views fell off a cliff the instant the ad spend stopped, so it didn't boost them in the algorithm either.

>>10971468
but 3 of those 6 months was a break anon...

>>10971572
>boost them in the algorithm
Should've hired clipper and those YT vtuber react channel instead to boost them algorithm, oh wait..

>>10970069
People bitched about how slow cover was in putting out another EN though. 1 year is way too long and runs the risk of people getting bored of watching the same set of people.

>>10971806
Some of their official clips were actually pretty successful (100-300k views), and now they have more brand recognition in the West it'd be the perfect time to try to capitalize on that to build interest in their existing talent
So naturally they told all the clippers they hired to fuck off and the official EN channel now only posts NijiEN shorts that nobody watches
I think they secretly poached their EN managers from Cover

>>10972048
>So naturally they told all the clippers they hired to fuck off and the official EN channel now only posts NijiEN shorts that nobody watches
>Last longer clip video was less than a week ago
Anonchama...

>>10971912
Release gens quickly in the beginning and then slow down drastically at after a certain point

>>10972969
That was an EN clip anon. I'm talking about the JP clips, which slowed down significantly with lazulight's debut then stopped entirely 2 months ago

>>10973287
Ahhh, that's fair then. I'd like them to do JP clips again, but I guess I can't blame them for focusing on EN for now.

>>10969634
Yeah, but your company was so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.

>>10973784
To me this is the best JP clipper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N54c_n-evDU
The ones they got for the existing official JP clips suck and also chose dumb clips to translate

Evidently they can't if it took them so long to get 10 people out

>>10973957
I think did think about if they should, actually. It's been their business model for years at this point, I think if it didn't work they'd know.

>>10974504
that's not how a bubble works anon

>>10971912
I think what hurt Cover is that they took ages to put out a new gen when they had the hype of Holomyth behind them, on top of sort of being bubbled off for a bit from other groups. Some will probably argue that it's a good thing, but it didn't exactly help due to the language barrier with the JP branch.
Thankfully later this year seemed to be a course correct of sorts.

>>10977493
problem is they waited too long to release a successive gen but now to release multiple too soon would be viewership suicide
Look how releasing Irys on her own before Council has played out with the numbers

>>10972048
>So naturally they told all the clippers they hired to fuck of
it's literally the same clippers who make the English clips

>>10970152
And you do? Bless us with your vast knowledge into the business workings of the vtuber world. We're wating.
>>10970761
Nijisanji is rich. Meanwhile you live in a van down by the river while Hololive mogs you.

>>10970265
Don't be facetious. The only reason why Hololive EN is as big as it is today is because there were tons of chink clippers translating clips from JP for over a year before EN debuted, and EN debuted at just the right time to capture the western audience. Nothing about Cover management or policies is the reason why they succeeded with EN. They fell assbackwards into success.

>>10977983
Right place right time is how nearly all entertainers find success on the internet anon