/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Our girls are getting paid. I am happy for them.

>>10949699
true
it's not coming out of my pocket, so i don't care

Never donating to them again

>>10949823
based freeloading KING

i will continue to post myau links for you my liege

>please don't give me your money, take care of yourself.
StinkCatGood

>>10949917
Half the time she says that the schizos donate again.

It's been 12 thousand years.
Good morning /vsj+/!
I take it OP is from the west coast?

>Mel came so hard she threw out her back
>Zen still has brain goblins
>Mouse is still on potato because her parents can't go near her for the next couple weeks
>Froot MIA
Everything is falling apart.

Business suits are always a good look and huge booba in suits are even better. Anyway, schedule time. Currently live:

Yoclesh - Doing art. I was wondering if there was a Vyugen art collab or something going on since Yunii and even Neonbeat are live and also doing art but I guess not. She's drawing a picture of herself with Silver. https://www.twitch.tv/yoclesh

Later today:

Mouse - Old school Runescape collab with the TT guys showing off some new Ironman mode or something. It's weird but I'm sure it'll be interesting. I hope.
Silver - Doing some more Psychonauts 2. Looking forward to it and I loved the Live2D debut yesterday if you missed it definitely look check it out during these quiet hours.
Nyan - No laughing challenge. She set up a ton of punishments for this on Monday and I don't have a screenshot so if anyone has one it would be nice to see. I even submitted a clip under my not-Anonymous self and I hope she watches it and it kills her.
Vei? - Supposedly feeling a bit better and is tired of laying around and doing nothing. Can only hope that she still feels that way when it comes time to go live but if she does then that's great!

Mel is off, Zen's getting back into it and it's nice seeing Twitter activity again but isn't streaming just yet, no schedule from Hime just yet but she did drop some more tweets so she's not dead! And Froot has died. Tragically. Luckily she's met up with a kid who can see dead people and who knows what kind of M. Night Shyamalan-esque antics will occur from here.

>>10949454
>>10949490
Jesus fucking Christ, especially that second one
Las creaturas...

Bros...

>>10949843
if you were donating because you thought they needed it you're a fucking dumbo (or just a dramatourist)
the only thing worth spending money on is nyans sub anyways

hello veibae

>>10950107
Vei's streaming today.

>>10950107
it'll be ok, doomer
mouse will eventually get her new pc up

>>10950009
Schizos donate no matter what. They make the streaming world go round.

>>10950065
Central actually. Anyway time to test another webm.

>>10950107
>Mel came so hard she threw out her back
I don't watch her CB streams, fuck happened

>>10950314
I'm voting against using that as an OP. Bit too low quality for my tastes.

>>10950330
anon's just shitposting, she hurt herself in the shower

>>10950330
Anons narrative he's going with. Her back hurts, that's all.

>>10949247
>There could have been a summary here if much had really happened since the last thread!

Well one thing very much did happen overnight. I don't see it as a big deal per say, and I'm happy they're "getting the bag", some folks might feel differently about it. It'll be interesting to see if it gets addressed in any way today. Since folks are often kinda weird about money, especially when people find out what other people make.

>>10950243
I always knew she was /here/

>>10950243
>>10950456
>Vshojo +
/here/

>>10950354
Wasn't planning on it since I like using group shots anyway I just wanted to see if it would translate to being posted just fine since sometimes webmconvert fucks things up. Anyway I hope Snuffy drops an update today since she's finally got the appointment today!

>>10949685
whys she look Chinese now?

>>10949685
Will we ever see pink jacket Vei again?

>>10950535
>first directly confirmed /they are here/

>>10950535
Don't think I've seen any other streamers claiming that the numbers aren't accurate.

>>10950628
the rrat is that she's trying to appeal to chinks on bilibili

>>10950628
we're cornering the bilibili market next since the actual chinese are banned from streaming

>>10950440
>>10950535
Well that didn't take long.

>>10950535
>I browse 4chan regularly
You don't have to be THIS obvious about it.

Really enjoyed Myau's Target product showcase ASRM last night, I didn't get the supposed ASRM tingles but it was kinda nice just laying in bed in the dark with my headphones on still, since it was pretty late for me. Also can confirm I didn't hear a single tummy rumble.

Kinda funny despite pre-announcing and putting it on the schedule for a change it barely cracked 500 viewers, so guess it's still going to stay comfy.

hi vei

>>10950628
Because she chinese whore now

>>10950628
I hate the Chinese but if you don't think naked tabards are hot you are a raging homosexual.

>>10950552
Same. Glad our pet raccoon can finally see the vet.

i wonder if vei watched the /vt/ league

>>10950742
This thread's going to become AMOGUS except instead of an imposter one of us is Veibae

>>10950535
>Stats aren't accurate

I wonder if Vei alternates between reading about how based she is and what a whore she is. There's usually a thread to that effect every other day.

so this confirms snuffy, vei, nyanners and mouse so far as being /here/. If people can raign in their autism and not take bait for a couple of weeks were in a good position to have have them start posting

>delusional /vsj+/ cope again
a reminder that she means /pmg/ and that she will NEVER read your heartfelt love letters here so please take it to the right thread

Saw that Mouse was playing SCP containment breach last night... I wonder if the girls could be convinced to do a SCP secret lab collab. Maybe pull in a couple of others to make up numbers, having about 10-12 people in the game is nice and solid.

And while that sounds like a lot since its all local chat it really isn't because you never get everyone in one place.

D BOYS REPRESENT.

>>10950810
You must be 18+ to post here. You're also a newfag, since you would recall the state of /vt/ when Risu dropped that she was watching us. This is nothing new.

>>10950802
Now this is the real question.
Did "real"(?) vei enjoy "fake"(?) vei?

>>10950901
>If people can raign in their autism and not take bait for a couple of weeks were in a good position to have have them start posting
you being like this is precisely why they shouldn't and don't post here.

>>10950802
What do you mean? She was commentating.

>>10950801

>>10950947
theres a group of vrc streamers that played that a lot, i know soda and rflgator was in them, they could join too

>>10950901
T. Actual Autist

Lol, I'm glad Nyan decided to lean into the 'Violence Nyanners' bit I've been writing for her for awhile in here.

Also, Nyanners is going to kill a child today for interrupting her stream the last couple days.

>>10951065
If they need more people the Layna to Criken link would fill out the lobby.

>>10950901
4chan's a big fucking place and they can go wherever they want but the last place they should ever go is /vt/

>>10951147

>>10951147
>child
That's a car horn, anon.
They're similar, I'll give you that

>>10951167
This is the only place they are going to get any actual feedback. You think discord/reddit/twitter (minus the puritanical oshi boys) is going to tell them shit?

>>10950535
>Stats aren't accurate
Why would she lie about this?

>>10951289
She's got face and car blindness, hence the Prius.

>>10951294
I doubt they have time to pay attention to more than one thread and /pmg/ has seniority.

>>10951167
Thing is Vei is not averse to drama, so I can totally picture her lurking here and on the rest of the board. I somehow doubt she decided to go check /g/ on her own randomly yesterday.

>>10951147
>kill a child today
She does that every time she makes a new clone, anon. That's nothing new or special.

>>10950901
It's literally an open secret that just about every English speaking vtuber comes to 4chan, just don't except them to use a trip, right. Just be chill and talk normally.

>>10951294
Actual feedback is barely a thing here either. Anonymity means people can be unfiltered but it also means that people can just spout complete bullshit with malicious intent and have it passed off as feedback. Imagine if Silver listened to that 2Dsperg last night as if his bizarre parasocial psychotic ramblings held any worth.

Also just saw this on Twitter. Looks like Zen's set a date to return and it's Sunday.

>>10951477
And of course I forget the image.

>>10950901
>Snuffy
Yeah this is confirmed
>Vei
Probably though the discord post isn't evidence, it just seems clear she'd check here sometimes. Any other solid evidence where she mentioned the thread itself?
>Nyanners
Beyond her being a 4channer has there been proof she checks here at all? Nyan of all people would want to avoid /vt/ much as possible.
>Mousey
Calling bs on this, yesterdays shite wasn't evidence at all

>>10951477
>Actual feedback is barely a thing here either.
It's as close as they're gonna get.

>>10951353
Gee, I wonder why.

We are the most objective people they will ever get to critique them, theid be retarded not to lurk and take advice here

>>10951645
don't worry, i relayed your message to them and they promised they'll read all your posts now

>>10951477
Eventually your brain develops the filters though. 2Dsperg was pretty crazy last night though.

>>10951620
Her message reads more as they make MORE money than less. Which is fine, that door swings both ways though, maybe don't buy a Gucci outfit for your model. Or do and just use it today, that would be actually funny, Nyan could get her Raid sponsorship big money purse out again.

>>10951645
While I agree this is one of the few places to get actual feedback I wouldn't blame them for avoiding this place for their mental health. If they can sort the schizos out from the pile it's fine, otherwise I can get why they wouldn't be up for randoms calling them and their friends retarded for stupid reasons.

Especially with the Zen shit this thread has every so often, no waifu wants to see that.

>>10951477
I'm not that anon but 2Dspergs opinions are valid and made sense, policefag. You don't get to say which regulars here are legitimate.
Anyways, my suggestions for Vei is to continue playing indie games and more of them. And I know you're not going to do this, but please go back to 3D. I miss pink jacket Vei so much.

>>10951645
But for that to hypothetically work you need to pretend they don't.

>>10951842
Yeah, It's easy to ignore the vile shit that some people post here when you're just some idiot. When that vile shit is about you and your friends I imagine it's a lot harder to just brush off.

>>10951775
>though
>though

>>10951866
Pink jacket vei is gone anon, it's time to move on

YFW Silver makes more money than Nyan.

>>10950204
See one live2d wiggling in place, you've seen 'em all. A bunch of sparkle effects doesn't stop making a Jpeg a Jpeg.

>>10952000
the power of GFE...

>>10951944
tho?

>>10952032
sperg's back

>>10952000
Nyan is pretty adverse to optimized monetization fwiw. Still happy Silver is getting paid, she earns it.

>>10952099
Yeah, she could make a lot more if she wanted to. Only one I've seen get asked to turn on donos and bits. Think she might also be the only one without sound alerts.

Well now we know how Mousey can afford so many models. Holy shi!

>>10951645
Silver has had multiple breakdowns from 4chan causing shit

>harassment from D&D
>getting shit flung at her because people started speculating what she meant when she said that other girls weren't able to come to a planned FFXIV collab
>Getting heckled for singing during her Vshojo debut
>getting more shit when her FFXIV wedding had to be postponed because she lost her own invite

She still lurks because she has terminal brainworms, mind, even with that tearful "please pity me" moment she had in February when she said she wouldn't come back back 4chan anymore (not in as many words).

>Resume last night's Mousey VOD and see she's starting up Dead Space
Aw hell yeah, the lack of Froot Dead Space streams were killing me. Hope Mousey enjoys (endures)!

>>10951830
Oh, they certainly do. The stats don't include outside donations. You just shouldn't ever say "the stats aren't accurate" without clarifying since people will always take it the wrong way.

>>10952092
I never left, bitch

>>10952037
if Silver is what having a girlfriend is like I'm taking a vow of celibacy

Aren't you people worried about Vei selling out to chinks ? or you just don't care that they cancel her if she makes a mistake that will trigger them ?

>>10952428
Ive given up on her as anything other than fap material, so meh. they cant erase all the art

>>10952428
If that's what she really does it might change my opinion of her a lot. The only thing I've seen to support this is the naked tabard model (and I suppose the BB video a few months back). So not much.

Just look at it another way, they are pretty good right now, so only give them what you can afford. No need to starve yourself or cut back just so you can drop them a hot tip.

>>10952331
Do it anyway, pussy's not even that good. Girlfriends are just expensive friends/onaholes.

>>10952526
and her apologizing for 20 minutes for calling taiwan a country

>>10950535
Vei lies as easily as she breaths. In other news, water is wet.

>>10952000
If you mean the twitch leaks, Nyan has more for the long term total. But I'm sure if you include patreon silver makes at least the same as Nyan. Which is fine, I don't want Nyan to have a fucking 50+ dollar patreon tier.

>>10952428
She said Taiwan is a country on stream so any pandering would be wasted anyways

>>10952428
We'll see how long the UK petrol shortages run along with the logistics collapse.

So from the twitch leak Mouse is top gross in Vshojo, thought it would be Nyan.

>>10952037
Silver hasn't really done anything like that in over a year. She barely treats her patrons as anything more than glorified sub-chat.

>>10951572
Mousey, or someone who works for her is here. Everyone knows. We've seen it play out in real time.

>>10952253
>silver plays ffxiv
Based
Mind linking a VOD if it’s a available?

>>10952715
Considering the size of Nyan's community and how Nyan has gotten the lion's share of sponsorships, yeah, I would have expected Nyanners to be the top earner. Provided, Mouse DOES need the money; she was very happy when she announced she finally started making enough for her elderly parents to not have to work anymore.

And that's kind of the thing, I can't see the numbers as "Welp, the girls don't need help!". They worked hard for this stuff, just because they exploded last year doesn't mean it wasn't hard for them to get there.

It realy pisses me off how melody talks about wealth redistribution and that we need to take money from rich people, yet she and her friends make more in a month than I do in a year

>>10952846
Silver is an MMO junkie, of course she loves FFXIV. This is a good place to start:
https://youtu.be/HYZhkIzrhwY

Keep in mind september was subtember where mousey had a subathon
We haven't seen numbers for any other months

>>10953001
then just make more 4Head

>>10953001
You can make money and also recognize the problems with the system. Get over yourself.

>>10953001
So what? She should just give you money?

>>10952856
>I can't see the numbers as "Welp, the girls don't need help!". They worked hard for this stuff, just because they exploded last year doesn't mean it wasn't hard for them to get there.
both of these can be true at the same time

>>10953001
There are people who make 6 or 7 figures a day, possibly even more. Don't sperg out just because some people chose to give a streamer money

>>10953005
Thanks senpai

>>10952591
But giving fat stacks to my oshi gives me the dopamine rush I need to survive

>>10953001
Like taxes?
The UK takes 45%
The US takes 37%
Canada takes 33%

Guess which of those two give free healthcare with that money.

>>10953032
They were declining fairly steeply during august I think, subtember brought about a crazy boost. Then again I'm only half-remembering without anything solid.

>>10953001
Are you implying that Melody doesn't work hard? Keep in mind that is just her Twitch account.

>>10952715
>Mouse is top gross in Vshojo
That title belongs to Veibae.
Oh, did you mean grossing?

>>10953257
Also worth noting that if you're self-employed in the US, your taxes are quarterly and not annual like everyone else's. The girls can claim a lot of stuff as business expenses, but if any month where they get a lot of sudden donations is a month where they will suddenly owe a lot more on income taxes.

>>10953340
gottem!!

>>10953361
>having to do your own taxes
>>10953257
>no free healthcare
Most of our girls are living in a god damned 3rd world country

So if we're going by basic averages, by the end of the year, Mousey will make around half a million dollars.

>>10951645
Okay, I know we love to espouse the greatness of anonymity on here, but let's not kid ourselves. We use our anonymity most of the time for trolling, baiting, shitposting, abject harassment, glorifying obnoxious bullshit, and so forth. Yes, there are people in here who give heartfelt criticism but for every one of those there are ten fuckers just trying to farm (you)s and take the piss out of everything. How is this place supposed to be >objective when 90% of the population can't help themselves on being faggots?

The others are right, they should stay the fuck away from here. If they are here, please do NOT post here or make it obvious you read anything. Do not empower these morons. Look what happened when Arcadum showed up in our threads. People turned into fanboys instantaneously because he was /here/. It got stupid. It also invited a ton of haters in here just to shit on him. Keep in mind this was all before The Happening, so it looks even worse now. Could you imagine, tho, if it was even suspected that Nyan participated in these threads? Could you imagine the deluge of bullshit that would come of that?

>>10953503
Depends. How many subtembers are we having this year?

>numberfagging
Hopefully this doesnt last more than a couple days.

>>10953550
>We use our anonymity most of the time for trolling, baiting, shitposting, abject harassment, glorifying obnoxious bullshit, and so forth
Why are you on this website
You'd be so much happier anywhere else

>>10953550
none of that happened with arcadum what are you talking about

>>10952632
And who is this and why should we trust him too?

>>10953593
20% of shitposters are responsible for 80% shitposts

>>10953676
42% of facts are made up on the spot

>>10953550
Pmg shat on Diamond for months but the moment they knew the girls were actively lurking the threads (and egging them on with vocaroos), they devolved into outright beasts. Hell, they still go bugnuts because they know Vei lurks and PMG loves being her dogs.

>>10951866
>2Dspergs opinions are valid
They're subjective opinions written in such a way that reads more like a scorned boyfriend getting back at his ex. They're only "valid" in that they're probably honest, but the content of the opinions is retarded and not worth discussing because it is, again, his taste. I think the line of helpful criticism ends when you doompost like he did. "I don't like it because I don't like 2D" is fine, but then coupling it with "SILVER LIED; PEOPLE DIED" type shit is fucked.

>>10953648
Twitch partner.
https://twitter.com/tehMorag?t=ccuMHU0s62Ceyy7zMAlLUA&s=09

>>10953550
>We use our anonymity most of the time for trolling, etc.
That's why you need to be able to figure out who's trolling and who isn't. And I'm pretty sure the girls would be able to do this just fine. Other than that, there's definitely some criticism we can provide that places like discord can't.
>please do NOT post here or make it obvious you read anything
Fuck you dude, don't tell them what to do and don't try to limit our interaction with us, we barely get any as is
>Look what happened when Arcadum
What the hell are you on about?

Did no one ever bother googling Vei’s sub count stats? She displays it on her stream every day; almost all of them do. It doesn’t take a rocket science to figure out how much their estimate is. There’s also the gifting and bit donation leaderboards integrated into Twitch itself.
They make me laugh, I send them my money. It’s only $5 to me, but they make a lot of people laugh other than me. Seems fair.

>>10953875
yeah dude i love your sound alerts keep em coming haha

>>10953875
you are part of the problem.

>>10953774
I know peg PMG like to pontificate how much better they are than us, but whenever I check it's 50% coom, 50% bitching about VSJ

>>10953819
Silver literally said yesterday that she won't be streaming in 3d as much anymore, but sure, call me a doomer.

>>10952206
I mean, anybody with a calculator can do the napkin math to figure she made about that much in September. She had 16k subs. That alone is $56k assuming the 70% cut for bigger streamers. Tho this might reveal she doesn't get that big a cut.

>>10953923
Doomer

>>10953819
>SILVER LIED; PEOPLE DIED
kek

>>10953923
Of course she won't be doing it as much, every stream was 3d before. Streaming at all in 2d= less 3d

Gunrun should earn his merch dollars and make sure they're all getting 70%

>>10953875
This is what makes this all so annoying. The only one that's really interesting is Nyan since she doesn't display that info but Mouse, Vei, and Mel have all had their sub counters on display on literally every stream. Just multiply that by 2.5x and you could've gotten a decently close number at any time.

>>10950802
You think no one in vshojo streaming at the time of /vt/ league was a coincidence?
I am joking if thats not obvious

>>10954069
when you sell yourself out to a pimp you no longer get to negotiate

>>10954113
Those bitches ignore vsj+ but hang out in the divegrass thread. I bet they're in that fuckin rasslin thread too.

>>10953923
When she talked about the process for doing 3d, I understand 100% why she might want to do 2d primarily.

>>10952428
No. If she wants to milk Chinabux for as long as she can, that's fine with me. Let those simps appreciate our Veibae until she gets banned by Pooh somehow.

>>10954002
it started out as "2d only for collabs and when i dont want to set up 3d" and ended with "2d for all game streams and 3d maybe for some of the reacting streams"

Top Streamers:
ironmouse
veibae
Zentreya
nyanners
projektmelody
Silvervale

>>10954250
Going to happen sooner rather than later, chinas guidelines are getting pretty strict.

>>10954200
I bet they browse /yubicraft/ too; that is why they decided to make their own valheim/minecraft server.

>>10954293
Where is Hime?

>>10954293
Nyan is very clearly a bottom, anon

>>10954352
My bedroom.

>>10952856
One thing to keep in mind is that the leak is only Twitch payouts (so adverts, subs, and bits) and any other income is not known (patreon, merch sales, direct donations, and sponsorships).

>>10954368
x

>>10954311
I remember about 7 months ago when yubicraft was still new and Risu had recently tweeted about /vt/, a few Risu impersonators joined but one in particular was abnormally good at acting like her. She got bullied off the server.
This is why all of VShojo has been playing there under fake names.

>>10954475
I always knew that Nyan/11 was organized by Nyanners herself.

>>10952428
Didn't Vei play a video on her stream mocking China? I don't think that's a problem.

>>10954352
Hime wasn't on the list and if I included Froot, then Snuffy, Haruka, and many more VSJ+ would have to be added.

>>10954534
As someone who was involved in it, I can confirm it was an inside job. This is as much as I'm willing to disclose.

>>10953923
Silver also said she's getting a new 3D model in two weeks, so take that as you will.

>>10953642
Missed the point entirely.

>>10953645
>>10953862
Most certainly did. When he came on here to do some question and answer stuff with us, there were a lot of people being overly kind to him and there were a lot of people being overly antagonistic to him. Go back and read those threads if you don't agree.

>>10953774
Yep. The difference between there and here is that a subtle waifu post stays relatively hidden from the rest of /vt/. Here, we know we have shitters that lurk our threads just looking for shit to bait with. One waifu showing up here would be a nightmare.

Snuffy had her second round of testing and blood work today which went well (was worried about that part because she has a big fear of needles.) She won’t know results for a few more days but is very eager to stream again. She doesn’t feel better necessarily but she tends to feel not as bad in the afternoons and might do some short streams in the future to test the waters and see how it feels.
(had to cut off the top of the post but it was just “hello here’s update”)

>>10950926
I actually hope they aren't here and if they are that they never make it obvious or confirm it. I love all of them, but I don't want the /here/posting to get even worse.

>>10954280
Exactly. She started out saying it wasn't a transition to 2D. Now she doesn't even bother. I don't even know why she wastes time now with promising her old costumes, when she reveals her new 3D model, she's never gonna use them.

>>10952428
Pretty sure they're all too gay to do that.

>>10952428
She's literally too rhubarbed to tread their autistic lines in the sand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtgXMp72We8

>>10952428
>Aren't you people worried about Vei selling out to chinks
No. Vei is streaming in english, on twitch. Also the outfit is hot as fuck.

>>10954731
I mean, the shitters have been getting more manageable, either getting bored or just drifting away. For the most part /vt/ are coming around on vshojo I guess. I think we're politely ignoring each other for now.

>>10954917
shes already changeing her content to be more bilibili friendly

>>10953875
Pretty much this. I have amazon prime anyway, so I have a free sub to give around every month. The vshojo girls make me laugh so I always give it to one of them.

>>10954303
Yeah and her new design is probably going to get her banned. Too much tiddy and vagina bone exposure. Scandalous for Chinese children! Artia is out for less I think.

>>10954749
I hope she'll be back to full hp soon. I want trash panda to be happy and healthy.

I just wish that soon as theres even a whiff of /here/ we don't get the /pmg/ people coming in and going NOT YOU, US, US US.

>>10954931
Relations were amicable for a short time during divegrass, then back to the usual when the Lumispergs showed up.

>>10954931
I think the rest of /vt/ has learned that they can't troll us off the board and they have started to accept that vshojo is a significant player in the english vtuber sphere. I'm fine with them just ignoring us and hate seems to slowly die down in general. A lot of posters from other threads like /morig/ liked our divegrass matches in the league.

>>10955186
Was it much of a sperg, it was just "lol, yeah, thats cute, she can do a neat vei impression" from what I remember seeing.

>>10955130
>implying most anons don't lurk both threads

>>10955269
Let's settle this http://poal.me/xu8spi

>>10955268
Some posters in /clg/ had schizo breakdowns over Lumi "acting like a whore", but I think that was just shitposters trying to bait actual Lumifags. Most people seemed to enjoy her commentary and she apparently got some new viewers in her streams after the cup.

>>10955268
7 threads worth of furious violent shitting on Lumi for acting like a whore since purity autistic absolutely cannot into humor and didn't realize she was making fun of us

>>10950535
>stats aren't accurate
Go fuck yourself veigae, asmongold himself confirmed they are accurate

>>10955362
shit was hilarious

>>10955351
I'm glad that you included occasionally. This is my main thread, but I do lurk the other one occasionally.

>>10955351
/pmg/ is hyperfixated on the aspect of VShojo that I don't care for, so I avoid it. their elitism also makes me hate their posters quite a lot.

>>10955351
data mining poll do not respond

So anyone get their punishments or videos in for tonight's YLYL stream?
I managed to get one punishment in, won't say which just incase someone is fucking weird enough to go through the video to find my name or something.

>>10955130
every time you mention them someone goes to look at the thread and their numbers get bolstered, if were going to win this war of attrition then stop fucking talking about them. One of the reason this thread managed to grow was because they kept talking about us so people came here and we managed to steal a lot of their posters

>>10955370
she probably saw the wrong pastebin and didn't bother looking for the fixed one

>>10955403
The elitism is the biggest reason I settled here over it. It's so fucking obnoxious thinking that because you place more weight on some things a streamer has said over others then you know better than people who may view it differently and it's so fucking prevalent there.

>>10955440
I sent my submission, no clue if she'll watch it or not

>>10955130
if you were on /pmg/ for the past year you'd understand why there will never be a whiff of /here/ ever again

>>10955453
we're finally winning the thread wars bros, i'm gonna go make some blart posts there right now to drive them here

>>10955413
the basis of polling is datamining anon.
you should stop browsing /pol/ and enjoy life
>Verification not required.

>>10955370
Maybe she'll elaborate on how it's inaccurate in her stream. It's just subs and bits minus twitch cut, right? Seems like it's at least in the right ballpark. Maybe the vtuber audience spends more (or less) on direct donations through streamlabs compared to other streamers or there are other things.

>>10955475
I looked at the channel and there's SO many fucking videos in it. I submitted one too and hope that it makes it but there's no way she gets through more than a fraction of them.

>>10955370
>>10955460
I'm seeing one site say it's 3 years worth of payout data. She might only be looking at a year of her own numbers.

>>10950535
>not accurate
A streamer called critical said it was accurate.

>>10955460
Oh right, I remember there was one with wrong numbers first.

>>10954385
Garnt?

>>10954931
Yeah, but we seem to be getting some from other places lately. The "tranny41%" fag is clearly /vt/, but the rest I'm not sure about.

>>10955484
I heard the /here/posting went critical at some point but did anything ever happen as a result? Were the threads just shit, or was there something else?

Hey anon, I just saw your wife’s panties

>>10955685
First time I'm noticing the 4 "dots" in the trim of Haruka's dress. A green clover, perchance?

>>10955758
She's here
She's in
She's also in Nijisanji
She's in Hololive too
Fuck it. She's also in VOMS
Haruka is everything to everyone. Haruka is love. Haruka is life.

>>10955821
Given her voice acting talent, fuck, I believe it.

Has anyone ever asked haruka if she uses 4chan?

>>10955842
I somehow doubt she does

>>10955269
I'm actually fine with this arrangement. Back when we started /vsj+/ (which was before the /vsj+/), I went back and forth between the two threads a lot, trying to promote cooperation and harmony, even referring to them as "our sister thread" for a long time trying to promote unity here as well. Some /pmg/ers were having none of that, tho, and just railed on us for being /vt/ards. Eventually I gave up, but I thought the arrangement was perfect. /pmg/ does (or did, I haven't been there in a while) a lot of bitching about people talking about the waifus while they were streaming (offering no alternative on what to use the thread for, of course) and other general waifu talk and I thought if those folks wanted to come here to do that, then they could clean up /pmg/ a bit and make the coomers happy while giving us some much needed traffic and traction. It has kind of happened that way without my influence on anything over time naturally, at least on our side of things. We have easily twice as many people participating in these threads daily as we did back in Spring, including some overnight folks who used to be spergs and schizos only but have also calmed into their own community. It's been nice to see the growth of /vsj+/ and the migration of some /pmg/bros. Some of the more spergy / schizo folks came, too, but, eh, you can't win 'em all.

>>10955453
>if were going to win this war of attrition
Utter cringe

>>10955453
>war
What "war"? We preach unity here and shun autism.

>>10955842
>>10955865
>What was it again Nyan? Something like pomf pomf, wei wei wei..?
Hmm, I wonder.

>>10955453
>if were going to win this war
Dude, what the fuck. Just browse both threads, or choose one. We're all vshojo fans in both threads, there's absolutely no reason for hostility, vshojo fans get enough shit from elsewhere, there's no reason to create shitflinging in our own group.

Everybody in both threads are cringe beta manlets.
Now, talk about your favorite moments of Nyan being cringe.

>>10955677
>shit, or was there something else?
Both. There were people deliberately trying to use /pmg/ to catch the attention of their waifus every time someone /here/posted, which was admittedly annoying since it reeked of desperation, then there were people who used that access to not just be "critical" of what the waifus were doing, but outright fucking mean tot he point where it drove them off. They justified it by saying "they shouldn't be /here/ for their mental health" which seems like someone burning down the church just to prevent the rape of alter boys to me. The Veibae hats thing was probably the last straw for everybody.

>>10956032
I want to have/make a list of Nyanners prepared on-stream bits because I forget and I haven't seen all the VODs. For instance, I wasn't able to look up that time Nyanders read Nyanners eulogy, though I'm sure it's in the archives here somewhere.

>>10956032
I don't watch nyan or mouse, they voices are annoying. I'm waiting for Froot to go live again.

>>10950397
>>10950418
again? she did this once already around the beginning of the year

>>10956085
>The Veibae hats thing was probably the last straw for everybody.
I think I might've missed that too. I remember the rhubarb hat and the resulting SJW spergout, was there more to that story?

>>10956147
No, the rhubarbed hat was genius and she loved it. The twitter drama over it was totally separate. What triggered the /pmg/ bullshit was a supposed MAGA like hat (modified in the same way the autism hat was) which set a bunch of people off. The hats thing was fun and creative but some folks just wanted to ruin it for everybody else.

>>10956097
That was for her 1 million YouTube sub stream which is gone forever unless someone archived it

>>10956032
Any time nyan is live is my favorite cringe moment

>>10956147
Theres still 1 guy realy assblased who seems to hate vei with every fiber of his being now because she said she wants a "make twitch great again" hat. im pretty sure he posts in this thread too.

>>10956123
Sh-she totally will, anon. Sh-she's back from vacation, a-after all...

>>10956132
pretty sure she's just still recovering from that

Part of me wants to make our own version of HoloFights but using Wrestling Empire instead the WWE crap
although it would depend on how easy it is to mod the game

>>10956238
You mean this one?
https://youtu.be/7CuCN2wc3OI

>>10956132
Back issues are some of the most difficult ones to recover from because you use it for everything you do. I remember people denying that she'd actually injured herself and was just making excuses not to do CB. Dumb fucks.

>>10956329
ngl me too
>>10956356
oh shit I guess I was wrong. Was I thinking of something else?

>>10956364
/pmg/ is practically Melody antis at this point with how often they shit on her for every single thing she does that isn't an amazing 100/10 explosive multiple orgasm stream. Another of the reasons I like it more here because I genuinely like Melody and seeing that passive aggressive shit was fucking annoying.

After looking at the earnings reports, all I gotta say if this.
Congrats Veibae, for being the first Pole to actually bring money into the UK instead of bleeding it dry like every other eastern europoor. You did good kid.

>>10956271
holy based
would you happen to have the source of her saying that?

>>10956452
Some people are trying very hard to make a big deal out of the earnings stuff. Why should anybody give a fuck? Big time streamers make a lot of money? Oh my God? The original hacker's logic for doing this was to "promote stream service competition" which is just hackerspeak for "did it for the lulz", but I'm surprised at how many people are jumping on the earnings stuff as meaningful.

>>10956218
>there was a time where I could've made OC that the girls would use as props on stream and I missed it
fuck.

>>10956615
You still can! Silver publicly declared a competition for making her 2d assets on yesterday's debut stream with a winner possibly getting $1k.

>>10956271
Oh fuck, I remember that thread.
Imagine throwing a fit because of a fucking meme hat. Though Vei's hat idea was indeed retarded because of people like those

>>10955609
Man if anyone is really /here/ it's gotta be Garnt. He's always been open about his obsession with vtubers.

>>10956615
Please leave to discord, you are much more likely to get noticed that way

>>10956788
I'm not tying my real accounts to this shit, no way fag.

>>10956777
It will always be funny to me that Garnt is primarily a holofag but Hime is a vshojo

>>10956876
make an alt, ez

>>10950009
Twitch is a subsidiary of Amazon globalist platform. Donate to the person you support instead.
The IRS is an estranged enemy criminal organization. YOU are exempt.

>>10956085
Truth. PMG spent all of summer of 2020 insisting that they were better than Diamond because "they weren't simps" and could "tell it like it is", meanwhile the D&D shit happened and PMG did everything they could to insist they didn't do/say anything. Then when Silver disavowed 4chan in February (which was a load of crap, she still lurks, but oh well), they turned around and insisted it was Silver's fault for having thin skin. So yeah, no matter how much VT levied hate at Vshojo for being "ethots", at least things are calmer here. Especially since there aren't nearly as many veitards.

Nyanners is fucking loaded

>>10957180
I heard she can buy games without waiting for them to go on sale!

>>10957180
She knows how to play with )))the enemy's((( butthole FF style.

So... uh... Haruka has Canada panties

https://twitter.com/haruka_karibu/status/1445786409315360768

>>10957163
>Then when Silver disavowed 4chan in February
Spoonfeed me

>>10957260
Yup. That is definitely a maple leaf

>>10949685
The red-white-black color scheme of her current design is better in my opinion. The kinda looks like a generic gatcha character now

>>10957346
well, its designed by a generic gatcha character concept artist

>>10957180
she spends 70% of her income on the sims DLC though

>>10957370
Who is the artist?

>>10957401
I play paradox games, so I can't judge that.

https://www.twitch.tv/neonbeat
He's doing art for Vei now

>>10957336

>>10957260
>not Tim Horton's

You have ONE job Haruka

>>10957401
>giving EA money
lol what a chump

Honestly, thought they were making more.
But anyway, this doesnt fucking matter. We all already knew they were making shit ton of money (just look at Mel's top donos) so what is changed?
Besides that certain autists can now say X is making more money than Y!
Never understood the numbersfaggotry.

>>10957260
The pride of my country...
Is it just me or did that video make no sense at all

>>10957401
Sims 4 is one of those games that MUST be pirated, no matter whats your stance on piracy is. Its ridiculous how much it costs. Anyone who bought it with all dlcs is a one-cell consumer.
At least girls have an excuse of "If I want to stream it I need the license version".

>>10957510
>nyan right behind veibae
>silver right behind mel
TICK TOCK

>>10957425
dishwasher1910

Did you ever wear underwear with your country's flag or other patriotic symbol on them?
Seems kinda weird, who would do that, haha. Pic unrelated.

>>10956594
Fleecing a 6 figure monthly salary from people struggling to make ends meet is a pretty big deal.
At least with people like Mousey you can argue the money is going towards a good cause, but every other VShojo girl just got a lot harder to justify spending money on.

>>10957862
6 figures a month?!?
Where you getting this shit from?

>>10957520
>moose
>making sense

vei i wanna eat your ass

>>10957862
>Fleecing a 6 figure monthly salary from people struggling to make ends meet
Subs, bits and donos are 100% optional and voluntary. If you choose to give money to a streamer then that's your call and your responsibility to make sure you are financially stable enough to do it.

I just thought of a kino punishment for nyan: prank calls. not to other vtubers, actual prank calls
Too bad it's too late

>>10958008
thats victimblaming, they act like they dont have a ton of money, ask for more, and do it in an exploitative way where they target people who are desperate for attention

>>10958008
Don't forget to add that, at minimum, Nyan and Mousey tell people outright to not donate if they're not financially stable. Saying that they're "fleecing" people is actually retarded.

>>10958008
Also good to note that every single one of them stresses to only donate if you can do it and many of them have refunded donos for various reasons. If someone's dumb enough to fuck around despite the warnings and not make it clear it was a mistake that's on them.

I love Veibaehime's spoiled brat crying voice.

>>10957905
He is retarded.
Only #81 best streamer and higher made one million over a period of THREE YEARS. Which is a lot but its not something insane or mind blowing (compared to Coco's superchat or cryptos gambles for example).
Top vshojo are not even in top 300 for comparison.
Top streamers live in luxury but it is not like they are all Jeffs Bezos or can buy a new house or car every month. Hell, they are actively dying from the looks of it.

>>10958136
>It's other people's fault I'm financially irresponsible

>>10950751
Was good but the mic wasn't hot enough. Perhaps she was afraid of outside noise which is silly since you can't control that.

Should we worry that this list is gonna cause tensions inside Vshojo?

>>10957520
It's a running gag about how every follower milestone sneaks up and surprises her, she posts a video like this every time

>>10958136
No, it's retardblaming

>>10957862
Welcome to the inherently predatory world of streaming, where someone will pretend to be your friend and reward you with attention in exchange for money. This applies even more for women and women vtubers of course, since they get extra donations from hordes of lonely attention-starved men. It's a pretty much universally agreed that they hide their real opinions and actual relationships from their viewers so that they get more donations.

There's no way to ethically make a living in this scene.

>>10958008
Right, but now there's the extra layer of "this person earns $XXXk a month, why should I bother supporting them if they're already filthy stinking rich?". It goes past simple financial stability now, but the moral question of whether or not you should make someone who is already rich even richer.
As always, support smaller creators towards actually getting a payout instead of these literal millionaires.

>>10958136
ah yes it's not like almost all of them constantly say shit like
>donate only if you can
>are you sure about donating so much money?
anon you are aware people can use their money however they want right?

>>10957510
The only troubling thing for Twitch users is that their passwords got leaked, so go change your passwords and / or add the 2FA to secure your accounts. Beyond that, everything else is a nothingburger. I don't even care that Twitch's code was leaked. Maybe we'll get some neat mods out of this or something. The Amazon abandoned competitor program is also not interesting at all. Some are worried that IRL information is included about the streamers in there, but I haven't seen anything about that yet.

>>10958286
basicly dont support corporate vtubers like holo or vsj, there are a ton of small indies that would be forever grateful for $100

>>10957781
It is captain puerto rico!

>>Mousey playmate made 133,000 dollars last month

Wow.

>>10958309
You can turn the donations off as the streamer if you don't want them.

>>10957862
>fleecing
People give their money away willingly. I have no issue with this.

>>10958358
>Jeff Bezos made 133,000 dollars last minute

Wow.

>>10958342
Vshojo's about as corporate as VOMS. Less actually, since they don't own their talent.

>>10958269
No? You don't think they're aware of each other's financial situations already?

>>10957972
>Wanting to stick your face in days unwashed swamp ass

>>10958380
I'm just waiting for one of them to try to make the argument that people were donating to VShojo because they thought they needed it lol

>>10958241
she is very quiet in general. I always have to boost her streams up.
I blame it on obs's levels being fucked as even when I (I'm just a guy who seldom uses obs) try to fit in the sweet spot it's way too quiet.
...so yeah

>>10958530
They already have. There's an active thread about this in the catalog and I've been lurking it and have seen that more than once

>>10958380
Soliciting donations from mentally unwell retards is unethical, no matter how willingly you manage to convince them to give the money up.

>>10958498

>>10950535
well first of all hey vei though the raisin shenanigans the other day pretty my confirmed it second most people here shouldnt give two fucks about the leak just take their sub count times that by 4.99 then divide by half for the minimum well they should as far as their password/charge info is concerned but not by the other number bullshit

>>10958541
I have to boost every twitch stream, for some reason they're all super fucking quiet

>>10958626
Anon it was said then but the raisin thing was an e-mail she got that she read on stream. People calling her a raisin here began after that in reference to the funny e-mail, so it's not something that originated here.

>>10958367
Does the sentence
>Appreciated, but not asked for.
mean anything to you? Or are you cactus tier IQ zoomer?

>>10958681
Lip service.

>>10958679
>raisin
I want to see Vei in a Reisen cosplay...

>>10958815
Meds
Take them

>>10958679
Looked this up in the archive cause I was curious of the exact date and yeah. Zero uses of the term "little raisin" on /vt/ before this post >>5346502

They took so much money. Does it make their lives better?

>>10958541
Yeah I really wish Nyan would just bump her gain up and then add some compression to avoid peaking and enhance her lows, since she is more of a soft talker I bet it would sound really nice.
I always have turn the nob up on my amp on nyans stream. I don't do that on mousey and I turn it down on himes stream.

>>10958840
Don't worry anon I'm sure (You)r favorite streamer is being genuine when she says she doesn't need the donations that vulnerable people throw at them. She just begrudgingly accepts them.

>>10958948
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>10958815
>Lip service
do (you) want to suck my cock? cuz I'd love some femboy bussy
and no I'm not going to watch hours of vods to find and make 10 second clip for (your) majesty gibme sauce m'lord

>>10958968
Because people donate always lead with - Hi, I'm a vulnerable retard

>>10959020
Truly an eldritch horror

>>10959020
When she says "horrible creature", she means it.

>>10958608
>ethics
With terms like "mentally unwell retards" you're clearly just a baitfag. Figures this would draw you sort. Time to start shunning this conversation and ignore the shitters, folks.

>>10958968
I'm sure you're very upset that you used your parents credit card to give your favorite anime girl money so she'd notice you and it turns out she already makes quite a bit. I'm sure you'll understand financial responsibility when you graduate middle school and are able to make money on your own.

>>10959053
you are the worst poster on this thread by far and it's a miracle you haven't gotten booted off for being underage yet

https://twitter.com/VShojoOfficial/status/1445815951878811649?s=20
Saw similar articles about this here and there a while ago, but finally an official announcement

>>10959188
Literally who..?

>>10959188
There was an official announcement when it happened but lol nobody knew what it fucking meant. This helps clear things up a lot though. Also VShojo JP branch when based off the sound of this

>>10958680
yeah but nyan is too quiet
>>10958960
like I said before I suppose it's the fucking obs. it tells you to fit into the yellow spot but when you do and then accommodate everything a quiet_asmr_rain.mp3 fucking bursts your eardrums.
and nyan is too careful not to make loud noises but sometimes you gotta go the gut feeling way instead of what software tells you

>>10959188
Ah finally, an announcement months after this was revealed! Excellent timing as always, Vshojo

>>10959188
uhhh... they selling out?

>>10959188
Lol they sellouts now

>>10959270
LOOOOL Vshojo is over, they're known now as V-Clan network

>>10957310
It was the Valentine's day stream where Silver played that Colonel Sanders dating sim. Mostly in the Just Chatting segment she keeps in the beginning.

https://youtu.be/T7cAW6fJZvY

>>10959270
>>10959283
>>10959321
It's a partnership not a buyout retards.

>>10959270
It's just a collaboration.

>>10959368
They will be censored even more now lol

>>10959270
Magic 8-ball points to "sell-out confirmed". The girls sold out to appeal to Japan. Small wonder Silver and Mel toned themselves down, gotta get those Contractual Purity dollars.

>>10959073
If only there was some kind of a behavioral pattern that we could use to identify people who are clearly terminally attention-starved and shouldn't be in charge of their finances. Like perhaps "donating literally any significant amount of money (>$10) so that the anime girl on your screen reads out your name and the cute little message you attached to it"

>>10959283
>>10959321
>>10959394
>>10959406
The absolute state of /vt/ards

>>10959368
Yeah upon reading more I think V-Clan is just a production company, so I guess they're gonna be heading up some productions for VShojo now? Doubt they'll have a long-term stake in the company

>>10959394
>now have to adhere to twitch, china and japan tos
nice

>>10959420
>significant amount of money (>$10)
kek

>>10959437
Sounds like VShojo can be part of their productions to me. Like if that company wants to, I don't know, do a series of videos where people eat super spicy noodles. Now VShojo will be in that same pool of talent to participate. Sounds like it'll be a whole lot of nothing until they decide to be used, but given that there was an announcement that could be sooner rather than later. Could probably find out more by looking up their YT channel to see what kind of content they put out

>>10959536
It's almost like they're 13 and have never earned any money in their life, or something.

>>10959394
>>10959449
holy shit this place is so retarded

>>10958367
God, I wish. I love watching the streams but I get a sinking feeling whenever I see a donation alert pop up and it's one of the regular channel simps donating hundreds of dollars again. Feels like I'm a part of enabling something very disgusting.

>>10959564
Not sure where they said 8 million people considering these viewcounts, but maybe there's more than one. This is the one linked on their official account though. I don't understand Japanese so I don't know what I'm looking at to any real degree beyond seeing a bunch of Hololive girls that I recognize. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8_LSK-WqO_GyH6iPlbdatQ/videos

>>10959424
>>10959617
Its not us this time
>>>/aco/5847864

>>10959188
>In addition, this new partnership with VShojo paves the way for content to be created internationally while leveraging Nippon TV's production expertise to showcase VTubers, as well as English language programs starring VTubers belonging to the V-Clan Network.
So... potential for full 3D livestreams/concerts? I'm even more interested in the "programs" aspect, are we getting Vshojogra?

>>10959670
rent free

>>10959188
It says they belong to V-Clan network now, so they no longer indepentend company ?

>>10959745
It doesn't mean belong in that way.

>>10959648
This is why I don't watch shojos with donation alerts

>>10959745
the better question is, now that they are part of a bighger company, will their contracts still eb the same or are we goign to see the same bullshit japanese vtubers get pushed in too? how long till they have to limit their interaction with fans like holo does?

>>10959668
Will this allow vshojo to enter the Japanese market?

>>10959668
isn't nipponTV an actual television channel? i dont know if vclan is on tv but looking at the numbers they are not from youtube, no way they hit #6 trending with these numbers

>>10959788
you just posted one though

>>10959802
Jesus fuck anon, proof-reading. Do it.
Also read the article, they retain all their creative freedom.

>>10959843
For now....

>>10959745
It's a partnership. They haven't been acquired.

>>10959830
tourist please go

>>10959889
did you watch the ffx streams last week

>>10959810
This is making me nostalgic for the time Vei was big with JOPs and, y'know, pink jacket and all that.

I'm going to kiss Nyanners in the mouth

>>10959802
it's a partenership, they made a deal they didn't sell vshojo, there's no sign of restriction (maybe there will be some on official vclan projects just like sponsored streams) but i'm pretty sure that if vclan try to overstep they can back out, or just leave vshojo

>>10959810
probably considering they had the auditions open to jp streamers too with jp audition format

You guys are all just pretending to be retarded, right?

PINK CAT deserves her success i'm happy for her even if I don't regularly watch her.

>>10959188
okay but seriously what the fuck is this?

>>10960018
based

>>10960028
Their new management hat will control what they can and what they can't

>>10960073
They're putting a hat in charge?
Bold choice

>>10959955
I'm going to kiss Nyatasha Nyanners' soft ears.

>>10960028
Yeah I'm still confused. This anon >>10959843 says they retain creative freedom, but nothing in the article says that. I feel like there's a lot of questions they left unanswered with this press release. It's probably just as this anon >>10959564 says, but they left too much room for spergs to sperg.

Hopefully the 2views will stop being salty soon. VTuber only discords have gotten preeeeety catty.

>>10960101
This

>>10960132
Sounds about right for Vshojo. They threw Silver under the bus when it came to the announcement that the girls wouldn't post NSFW art on their twitters anymore and let her take the fall when it was one of the reps badly phrasing a "suggestion" to make it sound like an order.

>>10960133
What are you talking about ?

>>10960133
>unsightly cattiness in the indie scene
damn, must be a day ending in -y

>>10960133
VRchat and its consequences have been a disaster for vtubing

>>10960073
>>10960132
holy shit learn to read retards

>>10960132
Sooner or later they will control everything they do. Vshojo basically stops existing

>>10960243
Its just corpo talk

>>10960243
says the guy that told his talent what they are allowed to do on twitter

this thread has been pretty cringe

What if they force Zen to drop TTS ? Maybe that was the reason for mental breakdown ?

>>10960316
Yeah, I feel like we should've just not bothered making a thread today
This is all OP guys fault

>>10960287
>>10960297
this place is full of retards holy shit today is the worse i've seen this thread in a while

>>10960297
>"If you keep retweeting porn you will get fewer sponsorships"
>"I want sponsorships, so I'll stop tweeting porn"
Vshojo is the most controlling company on the planet

>>10960186
That's where Zen crawled out of, so yeah agreed

>>10960257
>>10960297
whatever makes you sleep at night tourist

>>10960386
worked out great for silver

>>10960243
i fucking wish gunrun offered me veibae's luscious asshole

>>10960364
Agree. He should now write a 300 word eassy in his lovely writing style to ask forgiveness. And post more pictures and webms of vshojo girls.

>>10960366
This is what happens anytime there's news like this

>>10960363
My God...a rrat to end all rrats...

Nyan says stream will be late

Imagine how bad it will be once the next wave of Twitch leaks reveals the names and locations of all the twitch chuubas.

>>10960433
I will perform a naked dogeza and post my rarest pics. Warning: They're all giantess

>>10953001
When poor people talk about inequality, they get called bitter. When rich people talk about inequality, they get called hypocrites. You just don't want to hear about inequality.

>>10959188
I still have no idea what the fuck this is and the article did not help at all.

>>10960491
Would it have that information?
Names maybe? but i don't think twitch has ever asked for that much info.

>>10959424
Stop replying to bait and they'll fuck off.

>>10960591
twitch subtracts taxes before paying the streamers, to pay taxes they have to know where the person lives.

can we have some cool vsj+ drawings/wallpapers to flush this shitstorm

>>10960728
Good thing I have all the art tags being followed and I just saw this is the most recent thing under Snuffy's. Looks like a smilffy daki is finished and there's a nude version in the tweet https://twitter.com/NanolessP/status/1445547151287734278

https://twitter.com/ProjektMelody/status/1445825290727424000

Looks like Mel forgets to brush

This was also just posted about 1 minute ago. Lots of non VSJ+ people in it but Vienna, Silver, Mouse, and Bao are here.

>>10960809
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sMQpWCNTQw

>>10960491
It feels like the leaker wants to hurt Twitch itself instead of the actual streamers, so I doubt the leaks will involve something of that caliber.

>>10960943
Yeah people are making a bigger deal about the money thing but for Twitch itself the source code leak is insanely bad lol.

>>10960809
Am I the only one who thinks adult Snuffy just doesn't work? Like, her entire persona just doesn't fit the mommy character. I love Snuffy and I'm into this fetish, but she doesn't have a low voice nor is she a femme fatale.

>>10960988
It doesn't fit her as a person all that much so it's a good thing that the daki and art coming out of it doesn't include voice clips to break the illusion

Will this leak lead to better legislation to control freelance celebrities like streamers? at the moment they basically have free reign over how they act but if it gains mainstream attention how uch they are making we could see some laws limiting how much they are allowed to make from donations, or how they are allowed to interact with the audience to prevent people from spending so much on them. It might be better in the end if streamers move to a move holywood like system where they produce content for a production company that handles the sales and they get a set salary or ct from it

THEY OPENED AUDITIONS FOR ONE PERSON BECAUSE THEY KNEW THEY WERE BOOTING ZEN WITH THIS "COLLAB"

SNUFFY AND HARUKA HAVEN'T JOINED BECAUSE THEY HEARD ABOUT IT AND THOUGHT IT WAS FUCKED UP

FROOT WENT AWOL BECAUSE SHE LOVES ZEN AND CAN'T WATCH IT HAPPEN

THE GIRLS ARE FINDING REASONS TO NOT STREAM BECAUSE THEY CAN'T STAND IT

#JUSTICE4ZEN

>>10960962
Yeah lol, especially since one of the main reasons Amazon bought Twitch is so they could license their tech out
https://aws.amazon.com/ivs/

>>10961048
you cracked the code bro