/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>46943223
>>46944037
That's pretty impressive, but if you're taking all canon lore into account, then Haachama is confirmed at least 5D; that's beyond multiversal and all those concepts you listed.

>Oh, and did I mention that Haachama is literally seen creating multiverseS?

>Remember the famous cube from the HoloEN Prelude video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvg4SUna5xw

>where the gods created Space, Nature, Time and Civilization, with Space being infinite multiverses (as explained in Sana's profile)?
>>"Space" refers not only to this universe we live in, but all dimensions and matter to exist. It is a concept unbridled by definition, and one that continues to grow in scope limitlessly.

>She wields multiple of them, as seen in the original segment of this video on her official channel:
https://youtu.be/mRCfFS0SsCk?t=88

>This not only proves that she's a god beyond any doubt, but she's at least extradimensional, i.e. beyond multiversal.

>And that's just HAACHAMA, not even GODCHAMA, who is all the personas of HAACHAMA Ch. combined.

>Haachama is essentially The One Above All in the hololive multiverse.

And if you're talking about canonality, La+ has always been shackled and has never actually shown the level of power she claims, so Haachama has this one since she actually did show her powers backed up with feats.

>>12441512
>>12442697
Oh, and did I mention that Haachama is literally seen creating multiverses?

Remember the famous cube from the HoloEN Prelude video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvg4SUna5xw

where the gods created Space, Nature, Time and Civilization, with Space being infinite multiverses (as explained in Sana's profile)?
>"Space" refers not only to this universe we live in, but all dimensions and matter to exist. It is a concept unbridled by definition, and one that continues to grow in scope limitlessly.

She wields multiple of them, as seen in the original segment of this video on her official channel:
https://youtu.be/mRCfFS0SsCk?t=88

This not only proves that she's a god beyond any doubt, but she's at least extradimensional, i.e. beyond multiversal.

>>11798114
>>11799928
>>11802096
>>11821384
>>11814864
>>11801270
To be honest I don't think anybody in hololive except Haachama and Nene can beat Goku realistically speaking.

Goku is Universe level+ and the only one with concrete proof (as in shown feats) of being stronger than that is Haachama, while Nene is just implied to be stronger due to her basically being hololive's Goku (the lore she started out with), and has shits like

Super Hyper Ultra Ultimate Deluxe Perfect Amazing Shining God 東方不敗 Master Ginga Victory Strong Cute Beautiful Galaxy Baby 無限 無敵 無双 NENECHI, as well as:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcA_mD9pQTM

Basically she is Goku but without any reasonable limit.

The only other one that MIGHT be able to beat Goku is Miko-sama:
Same tier as Goku, but not much combat feats, so probably not.
https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/vt/thread/9163228/#q9181743

>>11803167
>>11815530
>>11814811
It's true that technically Sana and Fauna and kill Goku using unconventional means (i.e. attacking him indirectly, since Dragon Ball scaling dictates that if you're strong enough, hax directed at you won't do shit; Hit and his time stop, Vegeta vs Toppo for example), but none of them is close to Goku's tier and he can always speedblitz them (Sana is Solar System-tier at best and Fauna has only shown a Planetary tier feat as she restored the Earth after Sana destroyed it at the end of her debut).

Kronii and Ame can't defeat Goku either since time travel in Dragon Ball works along the multiverse theory rather than the causality theory, meaning killing Goku in the past won't affect THE Goku they're fighting against (see Future Trunks), and again none of them have feats stronger than Universe level+. (Kronii's time travel feat in her debut stream is at Universe level at best since she never destroyed any part of the 4th dimension, and Ame has no way to kill present Goku).

Also councils are NOT gods. They never were and they specifically avoided calling themselves gods. They were created BY the god, not that they're gods themselves.

Calli can't kill Goku either for the same reason as Sana and Fauna, and Calli has no feats to indicate that she is even close to Goku's level in power.

For Kiara, Goku can easily destroy her completely (as in every single atoms) like he did with Majin Buu since she needs to revive from her ashes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa5Pimg2kPc

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So in summary, only vtubers that ARE basically Goku but stronger, or greater beings on the power-scaling tier such as eldritch gods like Haachama can beat him.

>>11749446
>>11764552
>>11764678
Haachama is not just a cosmic entity, she's actually confirmed to be multiversal tier.
https://youtu.be/mRCfFS0SsCk?t=87

Basically, she can casually create the same cubes seen in the HoloEN Prelude video, which are meant to be multiverses.

I'm pretty confident that no other holomen has shown feats anywhere near this level of power.

>>9434407
>>9434457
Haachama is insanity and chaos, plus an eldritch god on top of that. She's broken on top of broken. It's why even the council, who are concepts themselves in their own right, are scared of her.

She's basically AO-chan but actually active and more terrifying. There is no stopping her.