/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>9161312
>cheats on her spouse and breaks her oath to god
>passive aggressively jabs at abracadabra as if she has any moral high ground to stand on
Imagine being such an awful person you make EDP look like a saint. This is what defines western vtubing. The gatekeeping has failed. There's nothing left to save. So as I pray...get deplatformed, bitch.

>>9119333
Turned out to be a dud. They've already said nigger on stream. Ollie had sex on stream. Botan took a political position where she overtly came out as pro vaccine. If that wasn't the final jab, there won't actually be one. It turns out that the final jab was always just a rrat. There will never be a final jab. There will just be an ever increasing number of jabs until the holos are jabbing on a daily basis, maybe even more than once. This is the future of Hololive.

>>9055982
This. The agency itself, not the vtubers. Agency vtubing is a job and they're your coworkers. They can also be friends, but they're coworkers if all you have is a work relationship. She owed them nothing.

The agency is the one that gave her a shot, a model and invested time/effort into bringing her on board in the "corporate sphere" no matter how small or irrelevant they were. To use them as an immediate short term stepping stone was a bad look outside of some sort of behind the scenes deal breaker that made it impossible for her to continue streaming for them.

We know what that actually looks like due to the collapse of and infighting within other agencies. It doesn't seem to be the situation for tsunderia. That's the issue people have with her. Nobody likes cynical exploitation, and the sentiment is that you shouldn't just apply to agencies as a joke if you're not planning to give it your all. Because if you do get in then wind up half asssing it at the expense of the people watching, all you'll accomplish is dumbing down and casualizing vtubing such that the only people who'll care in the long term (at best) are mindless simps.

The other issue is that parasocial relationships are based on reputation, and selling yourself as a pathological flake will signal to viewers that you're not worth investing time or money in because you're a literal deadbeat who could take the money and run off to mootxico (with your sugar baby boy-toy Rodriguez) at any moment. Contrary to what the vocal minority claims, us guys usually don't take kindly to the presumption we're gonna get cucked without even a moment's notice.

There's a reason whores get spat on by men and women alike (albeit usually for different reasons), and it's because their reputations don't endear them to people as trustworthy or reliable. It's just like how EDP got canceled and deplatformed for being catfished and doing nothing actually illegal while alleged gangrapist Dobrek got a hero's welcome when he came back. It's all subjective. It's all double standards. It's all reputation. Even if it's not fair, and flagrant hypocrites damn well deserve the oven, this is just the reality of life. Even if you can get away with being a sociopathic woman, that doesn't mean other people won't still treat you that much worse exactly because society can't be relied on to hold women accountable. Never forget:

TLDR Rosemi did it to herself by not keeping in mind that most men aren't rabid horndogs and don't want to wife up women of ill repute even if they're cute, while women are the ones who're actually more likely to be vapid and shallow enough to ignore a man's failings based on tingles. And if your vtubing strategy is to try to get big by only ever appealing to women as a woman, then your growth is guaranteed to be stunted. Brosemi should probably just use a voice changer and larp as a ripped child molesting adonis instead (like the tinder experiment). She'd unironically get more female subs that way. As for male subs, I don't think there's much growth potential left for her no matter what she does. No man wants to marry a whore.

>>9055121
You're forgetting the most important factor. A person needs to be driven and inspired to learn a language. 80% of language learning is hype. The rest is daily repetition. The latter comes far easier than the former.

This issue with Japanese is that it's such a filter that you need to be super passionate about not wanting to read subtitles, or be a woman. Women have the inherent sexual value needed to easily social climb, and can often leverage their looks/bodies to earn money while learning. They can also get a free place to stay anywhere in the world just by spreading their legs.

As a man, you can't do this as easily because women in any society that' snot ultranationalist will likely already have their chad fuck buddies. You need something more, and attaining that something more will compete with learning Japanese. This means that you (if you're starting from scratch without any advantages) have to do your self improvement reps, do your Japanese reps, and achieve economic success in order to go to Japan and put your jouzu nihongo fully into practice. That's effectively your prize after busting ass and doing double duty, possibly at the expense of doing other things like becoming even more successful or enjoying your hobbies.

So while women can start there and work they way up further, male fans who wish to become jouzu have to take into alconsideration a cost benefit analysis where Japanese is worth a metric fuckton less compared to any other proficiency. In other words, there's two paths a man can go down to maximize gains. You can become a master at your craft, get transferred to nippon, and be assigned a qt translator fuckgirl who'll help you learn Japanese as an ojisan. Or you can prioritize your nihongo reps and become a master at those, all so you can be a teacher, translator or other underpaid profession (relative to the time you spent learning nihongo) where the large female workforce has resulted in a devaluing of your skills (as women don't need resources to the same degree as men).

tldr Kiara only got jouzu because modern society makes getting jouzu easier for women than men. And the men who do get jouzu form scratch tend to do it only in addition to their other more lucrative endeavors which are the main focus of their life (ie being a successful youtuber or businessman). Only a woman could get away with focusing on jouzu above all else and still wind up not fucking her life up when bills need to be paid. Never forget this when you're weighing whether or not to continue your reps.

As a man, I'm here to mansplain to all of you lowly whores the morally correct opinions people should have:

>whether tradcucks and breeders like it or not, women are granted legal equality with men and thus are free from male control as much as any other person
>agency and personal responsibility go hand in hand
>vtubers who voluntarily and EAGERLY consort with men are choosing to be whores
>this disqualifies them from justifiably claiming to be victimized because they willfully put themselves in a vulnerable position of their own accord
>recording conversations prior to me2ing arquiem betrays the fact that they felt safe enough to continue consorting with him even after supposedly deciding he was unsafe, thereby exposing them as actively manipulative and malicious which destroys the entire credibility of their victimization claim WITH THE HELP OF FACTS AND LOGIC
>recording presumably private conversations in private nonpublic spaces without consent from both parties is a FUCKHUGE violation of the spirit of two party consent laws in at least those relevant US states where discord allows residents to still use its platform
>users of these platforms signed an agreement allowing the service provider to keep logs, NOT other users of the service
>recording conversations without consent from both parties is effectively an abuse of the discord service and all users engaged in it should be summarily banned from the platform
>posting logs on Twitter is promoting the violation of another social media platform's terms of service which presumably include NOT doing or promoting illegal things, thereby necessitating the banning of all who participate in such conduct
>the sayno2rage incident also brought to light the possibility that such incidents are possibly organized conspiracies among groups of individuals in order to make an end run around the law in an attempt to use extralegal means to deprive someone of their ability to make a living
>this kind of blatant vigilantism is a flagrant attempt at violating that person's civil liberties

tldr Cancel culture and me2 are always in the wrong at all times. The means justify the end, not the other way around. What twatters and ledditors are doing is benignly iimmoral at best and pathological sociopathic at worst. Order is the glue that holds society together, even if it means people get away with being petty shits. Throwing puritanical religious fervor into the mix (and make no mistake, the culture war is a religious crusade against relative moral impurity) only drives people to conflict and war with one another, which will have even greater and more jarring consequences that's already come to include assaults and deaths.

Or to put it simply, the only way for society to function is to ensure that snitches ALWAYS get stitches no matter how sympathetic they may be. Society can't maintain itself without trust, and an explosion in mentally unhealthy people afflicted by chronic backstabbing disorder threatens to tank everyone's quality of life. If you value first world luxuries, you should only ever see women publicly executing men's reputations via the court of public opinion as a threat to everything you hold dear.

Just as some men deserve to be yeeted off a cliff, a not insignificant number of women unironically deserve to be stuffed in fridges. That's just the grim reality of life. Granting half the population sainthood status just because you want to put your peepee in their vajayjay is the most cucked thing anyone can possibly do. It's time for naive, childish faggots to stop pretending the primary role of women isn't pleasuring men and having children. At this point cancel culture deserves to be fumigated with extreme prejudice, consequences and actual victims be damned.