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9855136 No.9855136 [Reply] [Original]

what controllers are good for emulation is ps3 controller good hows battery life.

>> No.9855139

Yeah it's good. Mine's still working great after 12 years.

>> No.9855146

>>9855139
how much battery time do u get out of it

>> No.9855181

Battery life is better than DualShock 4, or at least it was. Not sure how good it is now, but you're probably looking at the 10-15 hour range at least for well-used controllers. There are tons of DS3 knockoffs though, so I'd advise against buying one at this point. If you want a classic DualShock, go for one of the PS1 or PS2 models and get an adapter. If you have to have wireless, I've heard good things about the 8bitdo SN30 Pro controllers.

>> No.9855194

I dunno if I'd recommend DualShock3. Mine got some issues, like it randomly goes berserk and multiple buttons register as pressed at the same time, making it unusable. All I can do is press buttons in hope it'll go back to normal and pray it doesn't happen again, but it always happens. I googled some time ago and it seems it's some problem with the DS3s inner board/cables or something.
I need to buy some knockoff USB PS3 controllers.

>> No.9855198

>>9855139
>Mine's
Improper grammar and use of possessives.
To the gulag with you!

>> No.9855201

>>9855146
I don't use it wireless for emulation but it does last a few hours on my PS2's wireless adapter.

>> No.9855206

>>9855198
"Mine's" as a shortening of "mine is" is actually correct.

>> No.9855243

>>9855198
American education, folks

>> No.9855245

>>9855198
Twitter's that way, xir

>> No.9855275

>>9855136
Battery life fucking sucks on PS3 controllers, even when they were new.

>> No.9855305

>>9855136
good luck finding a real ds3.
ds4 is better in every way. it just doesnt have pressure sensitive buttons

>> No.9855568

>>9855136
I don't like the form factor of the DS3. Plus they break half the time and you have to pinch where the "sony" logo is or else open it up and place a piece of cardstock in the membrane where it connects the board to the battery or something.
If you can do that quick fix and the formfactor doesn't bother you then yeah I'd say it's great.

Now if only the DS4 had analogue face buttons like the DS3 did. Then we'd be in business.

>> No.9855585 [DELETED] 

>>9855198
>it's another "ESL just got out of english class and is trying to school native english speakers by needlessly correcting perfectly valid casual speech" post

>> No.9855697

>>9855194
if you open it there's most likely damage where the inner frame hold the rumble motors, which causes the flex pcb to shift around
disassemble and reassemble and it should be better for a while

>> No.9855701

>>9855136
You can easily destroy PS3 controllers from gripping them too hard, and getting them nowadays is going to get harder and harder. I'd suggest a PS4 controller, but that uses USB type B, which is the worst USB cable of all time and never has a good connection.

>> No.9856418

>>9855136
xbox 360 controller is the easiest to use for emulation. You just plug it in and play on Windows. I remember trying out ds3 a couple years back and my experience was pretty poor. Had to download drivers and use some weird software, and it didn't even work properly all the time

>> No.9856586

>>9855136
Logitech F310 even if the quality has gone down the drain the past couple of years

>> No.9857328
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>>9855136
If you want something that just werks particularly on windows, an xbox controller or a F310/F510/F710 is not a bad option.
If you want something cheap yet readily available but a bit finicky to get it working on windows, a fake ds3 should suffice, at least before you can buy a real one or a ds4 or a ds5.
Ultimately i'd say the best emulation controller is the controller that came with the hardware you're trying to emulate (yes, even if it's garbage), but y'know... good luck with that.

>> No.9857331

esl OP

>> No.9857338
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9857338

just get this OP
works out of the box with most everything, has the best support, and IMO is the most comfortable to use

>> No.9857458

>>9855198
fucking retard

>> No.9857953

>>9857338
>>9856418
dat d pad. OP said emulation. so he's probably talking about 8 and 16 bit games

>> No.9857967

>>9855136
It's pretty great now that DS4windows supports it. The battery life is also very good.

>> No.9857978

>>9855136
Welcome to the emulation controller thread, where opinions are all over the place and dpad's don't matter.
I stick with the DS4 but a DS3 is just fine.

>> No.9858043
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>>9855136
Concept, Yggdrasil NYИ.

>> No.9858104

>>9857338
I second this. I actually like the DPad on the Series controller. I have been playing a lot of metroidvanias lately and it holds up fine. I also have the Xbox one controller with the non circle DPad and it works great too. They are pretty much plug and play on any pc/rasPi/mister. They seem to fit my hands the best too.

I also bought an 8bitdo sn30 which works great with switch, pc, android, etc. but the DPad on it is shit. You almost can't help but register a diagonal everytime you touch the dpad. If it wasnt for this, I may use it more for 2d games than the xbox pad but it really isnt very usable like it is.

>> No.9858149

what's a good console that can play literally all the monopoly games up to ps3 era? My uncle loves monopoly but he can't have internet no more on account of being mentally challenged cause he let scammers steal his life savings plus his parents. Any ideas?

>> No.9858157

>>9857967
Does DS4Windows support Windows 7? Only up to 3.0.6, right? What's the difference between it and SCPDriver?

>> No.9858251

>>9857328
What controller is that pic from? Is it retrobit's? I haven't seen that before now, did they discontinue it?

>> No.9858259

>>9858157
>still using Windows 7
Autie detected

>> No.9858417

>>9858157
You can't use the benefits of DS4Windows on Windows 7 unless maybe you're just using a PS4 controller. Unsure about that, but with PS3 you're shit out of luck because it would require dshidmini and that only works with Win10+

>> No.9858445

>>9858259
>Newer means better
Go back to /v/ and neck yourself
>>9858417
I see. I heard that newer versions of dshidmini dropped support. At least scp still works.

>> No.9859974

>>9855136
The only options you really have are PS1, PS2 and PS3 otherwise you will be cockblocking yourself from any game that uses their pressure-sensitive button (All Metal Gears and Silent Hill 1). Neither of them are very accessible, so just get whichever you can. Otherwise, the latest Xbox is fine really. Even keyboards are perfectly fine for any game that is not 3D.

>> No.9861178

>>9856586
Do NOT listen to this anon, they're terrible controllers even if they last forever. Huge analog deadzones, terrible D-pads.

>> No.9861246

>>9858445
>using an outdated OS that doesn't get security updates anymore
Lolkay

>> No.9861286

A Dualshock 3 is pretty good, and is basically the easiest way of getting pressure sensitivity to work on PCSX2.

DsHidMini is by far the best third party driver for getting a Dualshock 3 working and can be configured to have the controller be recognized multiple ways by programs.

It can be hard to find legitimate Dualshock 3's because they got heavily bootlegged, but you could also consider trying to find a non-dualshock Sixaxis controller. Nobody wants them because muh rumble and there's no bootlegs to my knowledge.

>> No.9861297

>>9855136
The Xbox one controller would probably be the best with its original dpad, but they’re extremely hard to find, you’ll end up getting several pads if you are seriously interested in all the retro kino. Just picked up a Saturn controller to emulate old fighting games single player

>> No.9861916

>>9861297
bump

>> No.9862636
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>>9855136
The battery life on Dualshock 3 controllers are declining for the ones I have. It is decent for that Playstation feel, but I always remembered Sony never valued player input and they would naturally drop some inputs. However, unlike the 360 d-pad, where you decide on a diagonal up-left, it would input left, then up, then left until finally settling on the diagonal up-left in a short time span, so it was kind of amazing to me when I tried a dualshock 3 where up is actually up. I didn't realize how much I missed that of earlier controllers, and how they did not drop inputs. I still kind of prefer wired input devices, but it may just be a subjective thing that I feel less lag with them.

>> No.9862740
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>>9861297
Not OP, but wish I could've adapted to that dpad.
I mean, it does look nice, but it somehow felt off with fighting games, especially doing charge-type moves. Works well with anything else though

>> No.9862771

>>9855136
I can get like 6 hours out of mine after it's been charging for awhile. The trick is to ignore the full battery indicator, it can reach that relatively quickly, but then you only get a few hours. You have to leave it in longer for more hours.

But no, don't use the PS3 controller. The only way I've ever been able to get one to work was wired and since the cable is only few feet long, that's shit. It also has no software inside to make it work unlike an Xbox controller. You have to find some random chink spyware to get it to actually work. I think I ended up using some kind of batch file that installs a driver that is then gone after I unplug the controller.

Xbone controller works pretty well, though. The triggers are kinda fucked and don't like to function properly in most emulators, so don't use them unless you're mapping them with something like Xpadder. Hell, you're going to have to use Xpadder for a lot of systems just due to wonky issues with each one. Dreamcast, PC Engine, NES and PSP all work fine just registering buttons in the emulators themselves with no external programs needed, though. Arcade emus also seem to work just fine with direct mapping, even Nebula, which hasn't been updated since 2007 and yet it knows what an Xbone controller is.

>> No.9862934

>>9861246
If you're retarded enough to somehow get viruses in the past 7 years you probably shouldn't be allowed near computers.

>> No.9862949

>>9855194
I fixed a lot DS3s with same problem. There is a spot where conductive film touches PCB it is held in place by a rectangular piece of foam. With time the foam gets flat and the connection gets weird. All you have to do is place one or two layers of tape on the foam and it's good as new. All work is done under 15 minutes.

>> No.9864227

>>9855136

Depends what console you are emulating anon

I have DS3,DS4 Xbox Original, Xbox 360

DS3 for RPCS3/PCSX2/Mednafen
Xbox Original for XEMU
Xbox 360 for Xenia

I needed the DS3 for Metal Gear Solid since there's pressure sensitive controls

>> No.9864529

>>9858043
This is gay, bigley gay if I’m being honest.

>> No.9864565
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>>9855136
I have an old DS3 knocking around, and I could just replace the battery and clean it up to get it back to new.
Problem is, I used to use in XP back when MotionInJoy was around. Is there any way to use this thing without this piece of shit software? Surely someone's figured something out by now.

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9864792

>>9864565
Cleaned up my controller and answered my own question.
For anyone else who wants to use a DS3 in current year, check this out:
https://github.com/ViGEm/DsHidMini

>> No.9864832

>>9855136
>ps3 controller
Single worst controller i own. This thing is cheap rubbish

>> No.9864836

>>9857953
It has the best fucking d-pad.

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9864887

>>9864529
fake news.

>> No.9865903

I have a PS3 controller that is freaking out when plugged into my Vita TV. It reads the controller then after five minutes it "disconnects" and none of the inputs work until I unplug and replug it in. Could the battery be fuck, because I don't mind taking it out and using it as a full wired controller.

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>>9855198
>ignore OPs complete lack of punctuation
>call out correct grammar in another post
really makes you hmm

>> No.9867519

>>9864792
The best solution by far. On PCSX2 wired with all pressure senstitivy features, and wireless for all other xinput games and emus.

>> No.9867541

>>9858104
The d-pads are built like shit on the Xbone controllers. Every one I've ever owned starts registering double clicks on the d-pad after just a few months of use.
>>9855136
Just get a Hori Fight Commander or a Retrobit USB 6 button Genesis controller (the one with triggers). They're both pretty good. The D-pad on the Retrobit feels like it's made out of slightly cheaper plastic than an original Genesis controller, but mine's held up alright. I use it all the time for 2 player Cuphead/Streets of Rage 4/16bit emulation on my PC when my brother comes over.

>> No.9867546

>>9855136
Xbox series X has been the best controller I've ever used for emu, the dpad has micro switches so it's very tactile,

>> No.9867548

>>9867541
xbone is not a series x controller, they're completely different underneath, especially the dpad

>> No.9867558

>>9867548
Anon also mention the Xbone controller.
>I also have the Xbox one controller with the non circle DPad and it works great too
My experience with those things has not been good for 2D games.

>> No.9867564

>>9867558
ah i missed that

>> No.9867575

>>9857953
I exclusively emulate everything BUT 8bit and 16bit games.

>> No.9868419

>>9855136
The POKKEN controller for switch is great for playing SNES games. I really like the HORI fighting commander octa too

>> No.9870394

What were Sony thinking with this turd.
The battery lasted less than a wavebird with AA's, lasted less than a 360 controller with AA's, had no vibration like a wavebird but shit triggers.
Eventually they updated it to have vibration but the sixaxis then caused compat issues and still had shit battery life compared to other controllers with shit tier rechargeables.

Then. They one up it by putting a big ol' LED light on the back for their next console, do nothing to stop even the controller from eating power and still it barely lasts.
Meanwhile everyone else in the industry kept making controllers that held a charge.

I just don't know what happened to Sony. It's like they got a head injury or something.

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>>9855198

>> No.9870417

>>9862740
>I mean, it does look nice, but it somehow felt off with fighting games, especially doing charge-type moves. Works well with anything else though
Feels kinda like you set yourself up for failure using a pad for gayassfightansheiiiiit?
Feels like everyone who has problems with a dpad is always setting themselves unreasonable standards because the truth is that the perfect gamepad does not exist.
Each and every gamepad is missing something, they all have one flaw, always missing a certain something and patching flaws with SDL only goes so far.

Back in the 6th & 7th gen, when there wuz no xims and sheeeeit nigga we wuz building our own arcade sticks for fightans and complaining about other gamepads when they wuz shit then laughing at the bad PS3 > 360 converters.
Kiddies nowadays don't know how lucky they have it when it comes to translation layers, then you have actual children ragin' 'bout shit like M&KB players for console third person shooters lmao when THE WHOLE WORLD'S OPEN almost, patch in SDL2 or Valve's implementation of it to any console and we're fucking there almost, almost.

>> No.9870423

>>9865903
Yeah. Your battery's probably about to go.
Better hope your USB port's good I guess. Same happened to mine and it's just completely dead unless I replace both. My Sixaxis'll work wired here and there but the port's going on that too.

I can't remember if Vita TV supports DS4, might do, I know the PS3 does (but sucks) since NieR is unplayable with one. When I last used my Vita TV I don't think I had a DS4 to spare lol.
Sony's controllers are so fucking esoteric compared to Microsoft's. I know MS cheats on windows since they have an input method dedicated to it but holy hell, everything's pretty much just worked for the last 10+ years while Sony hardware & software struggles with their own features. To even use the DS4 speaker on windows (which is programmed for some select games, WHY) you need to buy the official adapter which supports the protocol. Fuckin what

>> No.9870442

>>9867541
>The d-pads are built like shit on the Xbone controllers. Every one I've ever owned starts registering double clicks on the d-pad after just a few months of use.
I've been in the XIV camp since January last year when the game went back on sale and played nearly 3500 hours and most of that with a pad, very little idle time.
I've had the RB button on an elite 2 controller die, that's a common flaw, they replaced it. The shell construction also meant the X button was stuff/would lock on the first, did on the 2nd before the membrane/button aligned.
Of my 2 regular xbone controllers I've used for PC over the years & with my xbone x, the RB button died on my original xbone pad during my XIV sessions, sometimes I'd switch 'em up depending on what I'd do and I'd use RB for targetting, yeah, that snapped off, had to replace it.
I use the DPAD more than RB, use it for abilities in dungeons, way more than RB due to autotarget and only needing to lift off of the trigger to target too. Over 3 pads, original xbone, one X gen (bluetooth) and elite series 2 I can say that I've never had the DPAD double click in 34-3500~ hours.

Honestly, some pads just fail on you in certain places, some are common flaws, depends on how you use and abuse 'em. I know the RB button's likely to fail in my case 'cause I use it primarily to target when I dun wanna lift off the trigger.
I've had people tell me that X mice have double click problems and had no issues (I own multiple as backups), had logishit mice that have developed a doubleclick in <6 months on the other end and they both use the same switches. Everything's standardised nowadays, cheapest bidder and all that. Either it's an engineering problem, user error or a bit of both.

>> No.9870849

>>9855198
You're American, right? Are you perchance also massively overweight?