/pce/ general

[Anonymous No.9218380]

time for a real pce thread, instead of another "I've only played Rondo" castelvania circlejerk

pic related is one of the most overlooked 16-bit platformers, taito were god

[Anonymous No.9218458]

>>9218380
I like son son, thats pretty good and that ninja game. Idr what its called but it fuckin rules and i love blazing lazers. Its a bit easy for a shmup but i love it. Good thread op.

[Anonymous No.9218475]

>>9218380
honestly its more of a souped up 8-bit platformer

[Anonymous No.9218507]

>>9218380
PCE is actually a very good console, And much fo the best games never left Japan like Sylphia.

Really cool setting, aesthetics and story, plus a haunting opening theme. Hellenic themed vertical shooter, where you play as a warrior who died fighting the monsters summoned by some evil wizard. The gods reward her bravery and grant her special powers by turning her into a magical flying creature.

It's a solid game. Are there better and more intense shooters for other later consoles? Yes. But I have a soft spot for STGs that are more than "space ship fights bad guys in space". The fantasy setting is really neat, especially one that is treated straight rather than whacky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKTq2fFZXVU

[Anonymous No.9218513]

>>9218507
Ive never heard of this game before now. I am going to play this tonight.

[Anonymous No.9218520]

>>9218475
I think thats what the pc engine is. Basically a really souped up 8 bit console. It was designed around its main competitor the nes. Its so crazy i never heard of this console until as an adult

[Anonymous No.9218521]

>>9218507
>developed by compile

interesting. is it like aleste or totally different? blazing lazers and spriggan are basically aleste games

[Anonymous No.9218580]

>>9218380

[Anonymous No.9218581]

>>9218521
its tough
i couldn't get past the first few maps

[Anonymous No.9218590]

I have fond fucking memories of Liquid Kids from one summer in my childhood. Swimming up to the beach after diving into the sea from a cliff, toweling off, getting an ice cream bar from home and walking to the arcade in the next town over with my cousins and dumping so many fucking lire into that machine (and others). Then, when the sky started to go a little red, heading back home, kicking olives that had fallen onto the road from the trees lining it and chasing lizards along the way.
The TG16/PCE version is okay, but it doesn't look or sound as nice as the arcade one.

[Anonymous No.9218623]

>>9218590
in all fairness
most arcade pcb were godtier compared to the home systems during that period

[Anonymous No.9218628]

>>9218590
There's always the saturn version if you want something fresher.

[Anonymous No.9218635]

>>9218581
Solid game that many overlook as an inferior Cotton clone, but in many ways I like it more. Also has some of the best graphics on the console, which is even more impressive that it's just a stock PCE!

I love the upgrade system in it -where you collect currency then spend it in shops dotted throughout the stages (taken from Fantasy Zone). You can see attacks taken from Gradius, and the Airship level is likely inspired by SMB3.

[Anonymous No.9218645]

>>9218635
the gameboy color port is fun too

[Anonymous No.9218646]

>>9218380
spriggan mark ii
marchen maze

[Anonymous No.9218680]

>>9218520
If you are under 40 then you missed the 1 year marketing campaign in the west. If you are over 40 you weren't going to stores or watching tv.

[Anonymous No.9218804]

Does anyone have any information about the western Cotton release? we know it happened because we have ads for it and the specific release date. However, I've very rarely seen anyone discuss actually owning it as a child. This means it must have been a limited run.

Obviously in 2022 there's more arcade accurate ports out there but in 1993 it was a solid version that held close to the arcade original. And I still say to this day it has the best version of the soundtrack.

[Anonymous No.9218810]

>>9218646
>marchen maze

Cool home port, that is in some ways better than the arcade original. It changes the game from an isometric to top down viewpoint.

I only heard about the game via Game Center CX, which has doen a better job than most at highlighting PCE games than most. In fact, I've suggested a few PCE games there over the years in the suggestion box.

https://otn.fujitv.co.jp/gamecenter/index.html

[Anonymous No.9219251]

can we make this thread double for the PC9/8 systems? I dont know if thats considered /g/ kek i never really see anyone talk pc98 on this board. have been slowly considering collecting for it given the prices seem very fair and importing through buyee wont be an issue.

[Anonymous No.9219278]

>>9218380
>Bought a PCE because I loved emulating it enough to warrant real hardware purchases
>"Okay, now that I've got it cleaned and tested with this silly big kung fu game I should grab that Super SD System 3"
>Sold Out
>Out of Production
>TerraOnion only offers the HD version that's considerably more expensive
Should I just sell it off and go back to emulating? I was willing to drop money for the regular one but the new HD System is pretty expensive in my eyes. I'm American too, so this is gonna be with international fees.

[Anonymous No.9219303]

I like that one platformer based on the Astro Boy dudes comic about a donkey or something. Blue Blink? Nice visuals on it.

[Anonymous No.9219304]

>>9219278
kek this ODE price gouging shit happens for every console, just look around for alternative options or wait would be my guess. Happens to every single console under the sun so that price isn't shocking to me at all. Never paid more than $100 for an ode i own and don't intend to, never cave man.

[Anonymous No.9219327]

>>9219278
I bought a Mister instead of a Super SD system. No regrets.

[Anonymous No.9219543]

>>9218581
>American advertisement
>they may look cute but they're actually deadly!!!
every fucking time

[Anonymous No.9219549]

>>9218810
I miss the cute voice she makes when getting hit in the arcade version

[Anonymous No.9219563]

>>9219251
It gets threads from time to time
There's not much direct connection with the PC Engine but the PCE did get a couple dozen ports from PC-98

[Anonymous No.9219567]

>>9219563
Bottom right folded paper is a magic list

[Anonymous No.9219570]

>>9219567
But they decorated the other side with Deedlit

[Anonymous No.9219572]

>>9219543
same thing here >>9218804

[Anonymous No.9219575]

>>9219563
Project Egg's Lodoss War emulation collection package (mostly computer versions) comes out tomorrow

[Anonymous No.9219616]

>>9219303
fun game, on easy side but it's like a super mario 3 "lite" mixed with wonder boy (same developer)

also one of the few pce games to use the system's high res mode

[Anonymous No.9219621]

>>9219278
turbo everdrive? its like $50
if u wanna do cd titles then emulate those or get misterfpga

dont be like me and get the fragile cd addon the gears wear out and caps also

[Anonymous No.9219625]

>>9219570
incredible

[Anonymous No.9219665]

I started playing Cosmic Fantasy 4 Chapter 2, the last game in the series

[Anonymous No.9219668]

>>9219665
oops shower room

[Anonymous No.9219669]

>>9219668
back in the days when you could put red crosses in your game without the Red Cross sending ninjas after you

[Anonymous No.9220898]

PCE certainly had it's fair share of very weird and unique games.

>It's Bazar dé Gozarre's Game, If You Please

A game where you select commands rather than directly controlling your character. Players command a monkey (likely "Monkey see, monkey do") to get through the stages. Not the best game, but it's sure unique.

[Anonymous No.9220906]

>>9220898
>Gekisha Boy

Players control a camera-man who runs through stages and has to snap pictures to earn points. Ported to the PS and has a sequel for the PS2.

Both this and Bazar de Gozzare were featured on Game Center CX.

[Anonymous No.9220909]

>>9220906
>Gomola Speed

Players control a centipede like creature and extend the body by eating. A mix of action and puzzle.

[Anonymous No.9220927]

>>9220909
>The Adventures of Mr. Heli

Multi-directional shooter, where you pilot a helicopter with feet and buy upgrades in a shop (another Fantasy Zone inspiration).

Kind of baffling this didn't get a MD release, as this would have been at home on that console.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCuh5jHtqbk

[Anonymous No.9220948]

>>9220909
This is the best take on the classic Snake formula I've ever seen.

[Anonymous No.9220951]

>>9220948
Who did classic snake first? Is it actually Gomola Speed? A lot of the simpler "weird" games of this era tended to ended up as either flash or mobile games in the 2000's.

[Anonymous No.9221072]

>>9220927
Last of the "weird and interesting footnote" games:

>Gotzendiener

Character design by Gainax so the cover has this Princess Maker look to it. The game plays as a woman in isometric trying to escape a dungeon. Prince of Persia but Iso-metric is a good description.

Is it a good game? Eh... I really wouldn't say so. Gameplay is a bit boring and it just feels a bit too bare bones. But the game's existance is a very interesting footnote.

[Anonymous No.9221362]

>>9220906
>>9220898
someone post the wallaby horse race bet simulator

[Anonymous No.9221365]

>>9220909
i see this one posted A LOT
the soundtrack is the tits but
i never could get into this title
it just makes me want to smoke a million cigarettes

[Anonymous No.9221585]

>>9221365
yeah it's a neat game.

[Anonymous No.9221602]

>>9220927
>Kind of baffling this didn't get a MD release, as this would have been at home on that console.

irem didn't support the megadrive at all

they did plan an r-type leo port at some point but that never was finished

[Anonymous No.9221609]

>>9221602
What about SFC? It's a pretty slow game, so it should ahve worked there.

Any reason why IREM hated the MD? You'd think they'd be a match made in heaven.

[Anonymous No.9221650]

>>9220927
>Legend of Valkyrie

Another arcade home port, and it's pretty solid. Arcade ports and shooters are a strong suit of the PC Engine.

[Anonymous No.9221667]

>>9221650
>Coryoon

And another cute-em-up, this time Coryoon. The graphics and parallax scrolling would lead you to believe at first glance this was a Mega Drive title, but it's stock PCE. Also one of the few games to use parallax scrolling, along with Magical Chase, which is a feature nominally thought impossible on the console but somehow the devs pulled it off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkleJGT0rDE

[Anonymous No.9221691]

>>9221667
>featuring NOT hyakushiki from Zeta Gundam

[Anonymous No.9221695]

Anyone has a list of games that are not arcade, pc ports
Original games made for the console

[Anonymous No.9221778]

>>9221695
Quick and dirty list:

>Castlevania: Rondo of Blood
>Soldier Blade
>Fray CD: Xak Gaiden
>Star Parodier
>Coryoon
>Gomola Speed
>Kaizou Choujin Shubibinman 3: Ikai no Princess
>Seirei Senshi Spriggan
>Fausseté Amour
>Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire
>Gate of Thunder
>Air Zonk
>Ys IV: The Dawn of Ys
>Bomberman '94
>Download 1+2
>Magical Chase
>Gomola Speed
>Kaze Kiri: Ninja Action
>The Legend of Xanadu 1+2
>Sylphia
>Pop'n Magic
>Final Soldier
>Super Star Soldier

Multi-plat:
>Valis III (later ported to MD)
>Lords of Thunder (later ported to Sega CD)

Adapted from:
https://www.giantbomb.com/profile/stealthrush/lists/stealthrushs-top-100-favorite-pc-engine-games/355868/

[Anonymous No.9221908]

Quick translations list:

https://www.romhacking.net/?page=translations&genre=&platform=4&status=&languageid=12&perpage=50&order=&dir=&title=&author=&transsearch=Go

https://www.romhacking.net/?page=translations&genre=&platform=5&status=&languageid=12&perpage=50&order=&dir=&title=&author=&transsearch=Go

[Anonymous No.9221943]

>>9221667
>which is a feature nominally thought impossible on the console but somehow the devs pulled it off.

its strips of sprites, like the nes
the pc engine was a very capable console but it didn't have the same level of AAA support, and hucard storage was very small
the only games i can think of that have really impressive parallax are lords of thunder and new adventure island (like actual foreground background separation)

coryoon is great though, air zonk is essentially a spiritual sequel to it

[Anonymous No.9221948]

>>9221609
>What about SFC?
it already got 2 Rtype games
>>9221695
keep in mind some arcade ports are better, have new features

games like 1943 kai and side arms got brand new modes, gradius games got new levels, etc

[Anonymous No.9222551]

>>9221778
Looking at my own library, here's some more that originated on PC Engine:
>Linda^3 [got censored port/remaster on PS, better version of that later on SS]
>Gunbuster (3 parts) [exclusive]
>GÖTZENDIENER [exclusive]
>Tengai Makyo series (4 games) [got a PSP collection that censored the second game to get down to a CERO B rating, also first two games got some remakes on Gamecube/PS2/X360]
>Cosmic Fantasy series (5 games) [first two ported to Mega CD]
>Vasteel 1 & 2 [exclusive]
>Macross 2036 [exclusive]
>Macross Eternal Love Song [exclusive]
>Sol Bianca [exclusive]
>Moonlight Lady [exclusive]
>Lady Phantom [exclusive]
>Megami Paradise [exclusive]
>Private eye dol [exclusive]
>Metal Angel 1 & 2 [exclusive]
>Rouga 1 & 2 [exclusive]
>Tenshi no Uta 1 & 2 [exclusive]
>Blood Gear [exclusive]
>Startling Odyssey 1 & 2 [first game got PS port]
>Megicoal [exclusive]
>Farjius no Jakoutei [exclusive]
>Star Breaker [exclusive]
>BABEL [exclusive]
>Alshark [exclusive]
>Astralius [exclusive]
>Cyber Knight [got an SFC port]
>Kaizerd [exclusive]
>Necromancer [exclusive]
>Jessie Jaeger in Cleopatra's Curse (2021 homebrew, other platforms supposedly coming)

[Anonymous No.9222553]

>>9221943
>only games i can think of that have really impressive parallax are lords of thunder and new adventure island (like actual foreground background separation)
I remember Shapeshifter doing it with trees in the forest

[Anonymous No.9222709]

>>9222551
any of those any good?

[Anonymous No.9222726]

>>9222709
Cyber Knight's pretty neat
>>/vr/thread/S5675260

[Anonymous No.9222742]

>>9222551
Funny how the PCE is a purely accidentally successful console, and how the CD addon became Anime - the video game console. None of this was planned. The earliest titles look like advanced Famicom or Master System games.

It lucked out in Japan because it debuted before the Sega Mega Drive, and became a cheap competitor to the Famicom, then a cheap secondary console to the SFC. And the CD add-on allows for voice acting and cd audio, allowing for obvious cross over with anime. A lot of romance games, dating sims, adventure games, visual novels, detective games, quiz games, etc all with anime art styles.

Also: Virgin Dreams was worked on by Akira Kitamura (Mega Man 1-2 director) funny enough.

[Anonymous No.9223101]

>>9222726

[Anonymous No.9223110]

>>9222709
blood gear is by westone
it's like zelda 2 but with mechs

it's also much longer than their wonder boy games
its pretty amazing, but remains untranslated

[Anonymous No.9223123]

>>9222742
i like the pce for its large amount of arcade ports and quality shooters, and it has some solid platformers and RPGs to boot

of course, most americans who have played pce will have only touched rondo or Ys, quite a disservice

[Anonymous No.9223127]

>>9223110
>blood gear is by westone
>it's like zelda 2 but with mechs

Heh. GCCX's Sept 8th challenge is "Gear in the Title". I figure it's either Metal Gear (famicom), Guilty Gear (PS), or Blood Gear (PCE). GCCX is a nice way to explore the PCE catalogue for games westerners dont' talk about because they weren't released or aren't translated.

[Anonymous No.9223557]

>>9219327
This. Honestly, I struggle to even justify buying a PCE controller, they're insanely expensive in the west because "muh cool retro system nobody knows about!". The whole thing is fucking bordering on Neo Geo tier.

>>9222742
They lucked out into an aggressive marketing strategy that took all the wind out of Sega's sails. Not only did they FUCK the Mega Drive at launch with the power of the CD, they even FUCKED the Mega CD with the Duo.

People really downplay the complexity of releasing a CD drive in 1989. NEC were perfectly positioned to take advantage. What's funny is the anime style was just the only way to take advantage of the hardware, which couldn't really do FMV, so sprites were king, and they could fit a lot more of them on a disc even if they couldn't load that many at once.

[Anonymous No.9223703]

I emulate PC Engine with Wiimednafen and I will not apologize for it

[Anonymous No.9223871]

>>9218380
Played this last week
really fun, like a mix between Valis and Bionic Commando with a mix of 90's anime fanservice, my only complain it's how short the game is, but enjoyed every minute of it
also the music it's kind of weird? i don't know how to put it but they don't fit the stages at all, there's an stage where the lava keep rising and you need to use your hook to climb up the stage, but the music is this weird mix of babies laughing like what the fuck (the song is pretty catchy tho)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Oiho4BQGpVY&t=236s
the song plays at the 3:56 minute
oh and the final boss being Baphomet, like the actual demon Baphomet with huge tits really caught me off guard

[Anonymous No.9223879]

>>9219278
It's still cheaper than getting the cd addon and all the system cards you'll need to play cd games. If you don't care about cd games just get the turbo everdrive.

[Anonymous No.9224054]

>>9223871
Faussete Armor reminds me of Alesia Dragoon in that they're both good games, just not amazing and the presentation is merely okay.

[Anonymous No.9224074]

>>9218380
Man I never thought I'd see this game again, Liquid Kids ruled.
Among my favorite cute arcade games next to The Newzealand Story.

[Anonymous No.9224080]

PCE is perfect for a Plato's cave analogy

>Johnny turbo and TG-16 projected onto the wall
>escaping the cave shows the PCE-CD, Rondo of Blood, and a bunch of anime characters

[Anonymous No.9224510]

>>9224074
>The Newzealand Story.

both the 16-bit ports suck unfortunately

pce version has tinny sound and cut content

megadrive version is arcade accurate but has horrid level design, it feels like a rom hack

[Anonymous No.9224937]

>>9222709
Tenkai Makyo 2 is supposedly the best-selling game on the system, so probably doesn't suck
I haven't played it yet though
Thinking about starting those games next after I finish the Cosmic Fantasy series

[Anonymous No.9224998]

>>9224937
How was Cosmic Fantasy? It is quite a long series which puts me off? Are there any weak games in the series. I know they aren't translated.

[Anonymous No.9225181]

>>9224937
Far East Eden? I think teh figthing game is more notable.

[Anonymous No.9225183]

>>9219563
Holy shit I want this so bad

[Anonymous No.9226445]

>>9223871
>oh and the final boss being Baphomet, like the actual demon Baphomet with huge tits really caught me off guard

wut

[Anonymous No.9226484]

>>9221667
Fun fact, Air Zonk was built on the Coryoon engine and developed in only 3 months.

[Anonymous No.9226539]

I would say the PCE is one of the most mismanaged American + European releases of a Japanese system, but at the same time it had some serious roadblocks.

>best most graphically impressive games are cute-em-up style games that are a hard sell in North America
>Bonk is the mascot but has far lower appeal than Sonic or Mario
>North American Execs seem to have felt games like Sherlock Homes was what would sell the CD addon, instead of the Japanese games
>Most of the most popular CD games are very anime very japanese games which are hard to sell outside of Japan
>rpgs and adventure games: galore.
>Rondo of Blood was a genuine system seller in 1993, but likely too late to make an impact, and was never relased outside of Japan
>Cotton, another potential system seller was given such a limited release it might as well have not existed

[Anonymous No.9226829]

>>9218581
>Imagine

[Anonymous No.9227013]

>>9226829
kekked

[Anonymous No.9227059]

No mention of nexzr a shame it has some of the most memorable tunes in pc engine. Pretty hard but fun shooter.

[Anonymous No.9227209]

>>9224998
It's mediocre, honestly. Just has nice character design and cutscenes (the Valis of RPGs, I guess)
There's various issues, mostly with the combat and/or the combat interface, in three out of the five games. Really only the first game and the last one (so far; not finished with the last one) have decent combat, and the first game has notable load times entering and exiting every battle.
The final game is the only one that really gets everything right enough to be worth calling good (some people will say that's like the Phantasy Star series, I suppose)...but I've still ended up enjoying the journey despite the issues. The whole series has one cast of characters and some connected story threads, unlike most RPG series, so it's fun seeing things tie together.

[Anonymous No.9227236]

>>9227209
wait a second, that's some teenage nips.

[Anonymous No.9227241]

USA aat the time was on the FMV = wave of the future, which looking back was not what cd consoles should have focused on.

[Anonymous No.9227279]

>>9227236
yeah though she's 18 by this point in the series so even Americans can enjoy her

[Anonymous No.9228973]

>>9222709
Macross Eternal Love Song is a decent sci-fi wargame

[Anonymous No.9229248]

I'll be honest, if you go through the PCE library few games stand out as 10/10 masterpieces in the same way that Famicom, Mega Drive, or Sufami games do. But there's a lot of 6-8 out of 10 games that are pretty good. Plus it has a lot of quirky titles, or games that make serious use of the PC Engine.

Relaly before 1995 no one really saw anything like Tokimeki Memorial before. A romance and a sim game in one package? Totally nuts. It was such a hit, that it was ported to everything. Supposedly the story became so well known and cliche, that elements like "lover waiting for you by the tree" became referenced in Japanese media.

So personally I'd say Rondo and Tokimeki represent the absolute peak of the console.

[Anonymous No.9229617]

>>9229248
less than the SNES true, but there are some you missed
>Legend of Xanadu
>Tengai Makyou 2
>Gate of Thunder
>Soldier Blade
>Ys IV
>Bomberman 94

i was being selective here. if you count river city ransom as a 10/10 on nes, i guess throw that port in as well, its an upgraded version

the list for 9/10s is much bigger

[Anonymous No.9229795]

>>9229617
What was better about River City PCE?
That said, I remember the Kunio Volleyball port was weird. It was based off the original arcade one, IIRC, where the team captain was gigantic for some weird reason.

[Anonymous No.9230015]

>>9229248
Spoken like a true retard who I assume watched that one faggot talk about TokiMemo for 12 hours like it was the second coming of Christ or something.

No shit, you're not going to enjoy the PCE library if you don't know Japanese. Linda3 is the peak of the console. It's the only JRPG I've ever played that actually understands the concept of game balance. Everything else is either braindead easy or you just grind a bit and it becomes braindead easy. In Linda, it doesn't matter if you grind up to level 40 in the starting zone. It makes no difference to the difficulty of the rest of the game. Not because the game does level scaling garbage to make your progress worthless, but because overkilling animals gives you nothing, and you need to capture 100 of them within the time limit. The earlier scenarios require fewer animals, so you can get to grips with the concept without being forced to restart.

But I guess some zoomer tuber hasn't made a video about how this game was "the progenitor to Pokemon and Monster Hunter" yet, so you don't know about it. Or how it managed to get an 18+ recommendation for depictions of gore and violence, when every other yellow label at the time was for sexual content.

[Anonymous No.9230335]

>>9230015
rude

[Anonymous No.9230506]

>>9219304
This, when I bought the pc engine duo I just got a chink turbo everdrive and burn+flash every game I want to play. Boo hoo I can't play Sapphire but who cares, I can play 99 percent of the rest of the library. I wish I could have had an ode for the same price but fuck these Spanish jews and false scarcity

[Anonymous No.9230515]

>>9230015
Disagree. Tons of fun games on the pc engine for EOPs, only thing you miss out on are jrpgs

[Anonymous No.9230545]

>>9230515
A lot of the best and most interesting CD games are the visual novels, adventure games, simulation games, role palying games, quiz games, etc. They're all super text heavy.

That's why English lists focus on the action and shooter titles, since they are not focused on English. But that only covers half the system's library.

PCE-CD got both Princess Maker games, seemingly as a response to PM2's popularity. A cartridge console like the SFC could only get a scaled down version.

[Anonymous No.9230553]

>>9230545
>That's why English lists focus on the action and shooter titles, since they are not focused on English. But that only covers half the system's library.
Do you have a good non-English list?

[Anonymous No.9230557]

>>9230545
Virgin Dream is another sim title, originally made for 9C-98. A sim game where you manage the career of a young woman who can enter into any field. The PCE-CD port is pretty good, but an obivious visual downgrade.

I never see any westerner talk about this title which is pretty interesting.

[Anonymous No.9230560]

>>9230553
>Do you have a good non-English list?

No joke, consult Japanese lists. I don't think westerners could give the console a fair shake.

>>9230557
Graphics an obvious step down from PC-98, but then again this is a PC versus a home console. If Virgin Dreams get a translation, just expect a bunch of e-celebs to talk about "the lost Princess Maker style game from Japan that time forgot".

[Anonymous No.9231647]

>>9229795
same game but just much better graphics and sound

kunio dodgeball is a big improvement over the nes version. it doesnt run like total shit and the new alien mode where you recruit enemy captains is fun

kunio soccer unfortunately chugs a big but has extra teams over the nes version. the genesis version has the extra teams and runs better but its not translated

[Anonymous No.9231652]

>>9227059
nexzr is cool, and gorgeous graphics, but yes very hard. its basically a super star soldier sequel

i think W-ring is one of the most overlooked pce shooters, its like a cross between gradius and thunder force.

>>9220927
this is one of my favorite pce shooters
irem made killer games for the pce, not really a single stinker except for image fight 2

[Anonymous No.9232559]

>>9230560
I'm gonna play Virgin Dream at some point

[Anonymous No.9232821]

The PC Engine port may not have the resolution of the PC original, but it's got voice acting thanks to the POWER OF CD-ROM.
The main girl is voiced by Sailor Moon and she also sings the opening theme song added to the PCE version.

[Anonymous No.9232832]

>>9230560
I had a Japanese friend recommend Yumimi Mix and the Dinosaur Island on Saturn and I played the former as soon as a translation was available and went through the latter afterwards. These people grew up with the console much more intimately than we did and I agree. Play their recommendations.

[Anonymous No.9233760]

>>9232832
Interestingly enough I was discussing PC Engine with some Japanese friends and none of them had heard of Star Parodier, guess they'd already moved on since it came out so late.

[Anonymous No.9233819]

>>9233760
>>9232832
I'd recommend picking up those pc engine nostalgia books and see what games they talk about.

[Anonymous No.9234148]

Undoubtably, the game library is a bit weaker than it's competitors, but also keep in mind:

1. It was originally destined to compete against the god damn Famicom
2. It was the secondary console to own, where it's CD powers gave it a niche.

Once you accept this, the PCE is more fun because you can embrace it's niche aspect, quirky games, and voice acting adventure games.

[Anonymous No.9234192]

https://e-hentai.org/?f_search=%22pc+engine%22

[Anonymous No.9234534]

>>9218380
>instead of another "I've only played Rondo" castelvania circlejerk
Has this actually happened, or are you just baiting and/or mentally gay?

Anyway, I've always liked Wonder Momo, The Legendary Axe, Genpei Toma Den, Dragon Egg!, Atomic Robo Kid, Coryoon, Bravoman, Bonk's Revenge, Battle Lode Runner, and many of the arcade ports on it like Ninja Warriors, Side Arms, and Parasol Kids. Still don't consider the original console and the TurboGrafx CD to be the same system.

[Anonymous No.9234539]

Ninja Spirit has good music but mediocre gameplay and graphics. The Legend of Kage did it better.

[Anonymous No.9234695]

The console has a ton of shmups but how many of them are close to masterpieces?

[Anonymous No.9234723]

>>9234695
Nexzer, truxton, gradius 2, r-type, gate of thunder, lords of thunder, air zonk, sapphire

[Anonymous No.9234727]

Is PCE version of Might & Magic 3 good?

[Anonymous No.9234756]

>>9230557
>>9230560
>Virgin Dream
kek

[Anonymous No.9234780]

>>9218380
I liked the shooting games on the system. I don't often see much mention of Override, but that's one I like which isn't often mentioned probably because it is HuCard instead of CD-ROM.

[Anonymous No.9235103]

>>9234723
What about Blazing Lazers and Gunhed?

[Anonymous No.9235128]

>>9234780
How about just stick to game discussion without the attention whoring bullshit, fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.9235762]

>>9234695
soldier blade is one of the few pce games mentioned on /v/, that's how good it is

otherwise, >>9234723
these are pretty accurate, i'd also add a few
>raiden
>galaga 88
>soldier blade
>mr heli
>super darius

i'm not the biggest fan of space harrier, but it's a landmark game and a solid port

coryoon is a must if you're an air zonk fan, as that game is basically a spiritual sequel

[Anonymous No.9235825]

>Bloody Wolf
>Last Alert (Red Alert)

Kind of very similar games, top down shooters. Neither are amazing classics, but they're okay games. Last Alert is a CD title so features extensive cutscenes, cd audio music and voice acting. The English version is notable for terrible voice acting.

These are "so okay it's alright" games.

[Anonymous No.9235957]

>>9235825
Last Alert is a tad long for such a repetitive game. I lost my will to finish it, even though it's somewhat easy.

[Anonymous No.9235971]

>>9235957
Correct, which is why it's "so okay it's alright". It's too easy and with a bit more difficulty it would grab your attention more. I think adding more projectiles on screen, and adding a ducking move (like contra) would have helped. The story is stupid and fun too.

[Anonymous No.9236068]

>>9235971
I'm not a fan of hard games, but Last Alert does lean on the opposite side of the spectrum. Too hard or too easy is bad. But, even retrogaming being repetitive by default, Last Alert ups it a notch. Your definition is good: "it's alright". You can't find a glaring flaw, but no redeeming qualities. It's just the same stuff over and over, and raising your rank feels pointless.

[Anonymous No.9236083]

>>9236068
Raising your rank gives you more health and access to better weapons. Also the later weapons are like missiles, so it often is better to just stick with the multi-shot M4 Carbine.

A more challenging run would be pistol only or maybe Uzi only. The later weapons are multi-shot and really clear the screen in seconds.

[Anonymous No.9236249]

>>9235128
Never understood the point of this, might as well just use a tripcode

[Anonymous No.9236581]

>>9234780
everyone knows hucards, its just not a common game

override is fun but also piss easy

[Anonymous No.9238058]

[Anonymous No.9238109]

Is there a 60hz mod for PAL Turbografx? I bought one of those new old stock years ago and got a clone Turbo Everdrive, but it's pretty clear how slower the games run.

[Anonymous No.9238304]

>>9238058
are these translations ever coming out?
they've been on hold for like 4 years at this point, waiting on the "dubs" that have never been finished

[Anonymous No.9238859]

>>9238304
nah they're just sitting on them forever.

[Anonymous No.9239937]

[Anonymous No.9240051]

>>9219278
get a mister, seriously

[Anonymous No.9241309]

>>9224080
>Johnny turbo and TG-16 projected onto the wall
So where purple haired half-jinn?

[Anonymous No.9241329]

>>9227241
Block your path.

[Anonymous No.9241376]

>>9241329
What's upw ith the shantae PCE meme?

[Anonymous No.9241914]

How similar to Zelda are the Neutopia games? Been thinking of playing them for a while.

[Anonymous No.9241983]

>>9241914
The first one is just about a clone of Zelda 1, with a nice magic system twist. The second one is also apparently very much like Zelda 1 but now you can stab in 8 directions. I can't remember if there are dungeons or if it's just the overworld-style gameplay.

[Anonymous No.9241985]

>>9241376
Forced meme from here that's apparently been posted for years.

[Anonymous No.9242025]

>>9241914
It's part of the near clones of Zelda 1 that also include Golden Axe Warrior. All of them are okay, decent, but highly forgettable. Might as well just play the original?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_5FtkFV1t8

[Anonymous No.9242050]

>>9241914
Neutopia is okay. II is a big improvement with Ys style music and 8 way control that feels very smooth. Nice graphics but a bit plain backgrounds.

>>9241983
Yes, there are dungeons. It's sooo a zelda clone it's not funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iquNDk2bPdo

[Anonymous No.9242298]

>>9241914
Very similar

The first game is like a 6/10, second game is a solid 8/10

Ys IV shits on both

[Anonymous No.9242348]

>>9241985
Shhh let it go.

[Anonymous No.9242372]

>played this game as a kid
>liked the idea of picking a robot model and customizing its stats and having it fight other robots
>didn't like that the robots controlled themselves and weren't very good at actually winning
>turns out there was a cheat to enable manual control this entire time
Why the fuck wouldn't they just make that the default

[Anonymous No.9243543]

[Anonymous No.9243970]

>>9242372
Is it one of those robot-programming games where you give them conditional instructions and stuff?

[Anonymous No.9244907]

>>9218380
>taito were god
Their platformers are just beautiful and so much fun.
>>9219327
>i bought an emulator that's worse than software ones that are free
Ouch.
>>9221072
That is a really interesting game. It could be really good but the level design and gameplay is a bit crappy. Amazingly it was by the Lunar team, Studio Alex, one of the only games they made before they lost that massive legal battle against gamearts and got obliterated.
>>9222551
>Blood Gear
Love that game.

[Anonymous No.9244965]

>>9244907
>i bought an emulator
If the Mister FPGA is an emulator then so is the Super SD System FPGA.

[Anonymous No.9244987]

>>9241985
*that one single autist has posted here for years

[Anonymous No.9245117]

>>9244965
Isn't the ssds3 passing data to internal pc engine chips to run or does it run Cd games entirely off of the fpga inside?

[Anonymous No.9245123]

>>9235128
That ol boy has been here way before you, something's you just get used to and idk, ignore

[Anonymous No.9245140]

>>9245117
It can emulate a SuperGrafx while plugged into a standard PC engine but assuming it couldn't why is it okay to emulate a CD drive via FPGA but not anything else?

[Anonymous No.9245157]

>>9245140
Why is it okay to emulate a rom cartridge via FPGA but not anything else?

[Anonymous No.9245172]

>>9245157
You are drawing a completely arbitrary line on what constitutes emulation. The ssd also emulates the system cards. Does that make it bad?

[Anonymous No.9245190]

>>9245172
watch me emulating an n64 expansion pak

[Anonymous No.9246246]

>>9245172
correct take is if the original system is used in any capacity it is original hardware

[Anonymous No.9246301]

>>9244987
The only autistic I find are aussie-kun.

[Anonymous No.9246881]

>>9245190
On CPS2 port?

[Anonymous No.9247183]

>>9219575
https://ac-mall.jp/egpc-0019
Someone need to buy this and share

[Anonymous No.9247201]

>>9230545
>A cartridge console like the SFC could only get a scaled down version.
Princess Maker on the SFC was technically it's own game with it's own princess, but it's clear it pretty much aped PM2.

[Anonymous No.9247260]

>>9220951
Lol no, underage retard. All such games are clones of the 1976 arcade game Blockade.

[Anonymous No.9248468]

>>9245140
>It can emulate a SuperGrafx while plugged into a standard PC engine

dumb question but how does it do this?
CD i get cuz thats just extra RAM, but supergrafx has extra shit like the 4000 colors and parallax?

[Anonymous No.9248508]

>>9248468
The SuperGrafx is literally just another video chip bodged in, with a chip that tells the encoder which video chip it should be using right now. Still wouldn't be surprised if the SSD3 is just doing everything on-board and bypassing the PCE entirely, though.

[Anonymous No.9249559]

[Anonymous No.9249769]

>>9249559
>4.5 years of dev hell to release a 2nd rate strider port
>only 1 extra level instead of 2
>bad colors, 30 fps, missing music

at least tenchi wo kurau is a decent capcom exclusive

[Anonymous No.9249775]

>>9249559
pretty staggering when you think literally 1/3rd of the pc engines library (over 200 games) were published by either hudson or nec

naxat alone was another 10%, and namco+taito combined make another 10%

[Anonymous No.9250667]

>>9218380
>time for a real pce thread, instead of another "I've only played Rondo" castelvania circlejerk

OP the thing is that Rondo is the consoles best game. Unless you are such a diehard shmup fan I can't see how this is even an argument. That isn't crapping on the pce or Turbo. I had the Turbo as a kid, was one of very few in the US who had it seemingly. It had good fun games, I have tons of nostalgia for it. I didn't even play Rondo until some point I think in either 2017 or 2018 on emulator. Its clear to me though that Rondo stands tall as the CD's and PCE most shining achievement. Its crowned jewel.

Rondo was such a great cool game I'd even argue its top 10 of the generation it was in. So its no surprise it gets most of the appreciation and love considering the console was doa in the states and considering it never even got to have a huge library here. Also its "good games" often while perhaps being honestly good still fall well short of the very best from snes and genesis. This isn't the case with Rondo though. Just felt I had to defend Rondo of Blood here.

[Anonymous No.9250757]

>>9250667
No one has ever said "Let's have a PC Engine thread, I only played Rondo though". OP is a troon.

[Anonymous No.9250770]

>>9250667
>Rondo is the consoles best game
No, the best game on the console is Tengai Makyo 2. Rondo's a great game, but it's a top 10 title, hardly the best on the system.

[Anonymous No.9250771]

>>9241329
Based half-jinn poster

[Anonymous No.9250778]

>>9250770
I speak Japanese, therefore my opinion is correct on the best games (you) are missing out on as an EOP, pathetic

[Anonymous No.9250994]

>>9250757
ask your average youtube gamer millennial to name 4 pc engine games, they'll come up with 4 at most
>rondo
>ys
>bomberman (maybe 94)
>splatterhouse or r-type

you get the rare person with taste, who's at least played soldier blade

[Anonymous No.9251009]

>>9250994
List isn't bad but bomberman could be replaced with literally any shooter on the console. Or bonk which is better than bomberman.

[Anonymous No.9251308]

>>9218680
I’m close to 40, saw commercials for it at the time and got to play a demo/display unit running Bonk at a mall (1989 I think?). Never saw the CD add-on advertised here though.

[Anonymous No.9251330]

>>9251009
>Or bonk which is better than bomberman.
Redpill me on Bonk. I've tried it, but didn't find it fun. It's very slow paced and your character moves so awkwardly (his big head must throw off his balance center, the devs probably went for that). How should I approach this game?

[Anonymous No.9251359]

>>9250994
Bonk, Ninja Spirit, Cratermaze, Neutopia. There, retard. Just named those without even thinking.

[Anonymous No.9251963]

>>9251330
First one is a bit like that, you do get used to it though. I'd say bonk 1 is the worst, bonk 2 is the best, bonk 3 has a really cool Cd soundtrack and gimmicks. 2 and 3 worth a shot for sure and I'd go back to 1 if you liked those, I remember playing them in order.

[Anonymous No.9252057]

>>9251330
bonk 2 is very well designed, one of the better 16-bit platformers desu, lot of replay value

bonk 1 is crude but classic

bonk 3 feels like a lazy bonk 2 expansion pack, but its ok. its fun messing with the debug menu (can change speed and jump height)

[Anonymous No.9253039]

>>9249559
Cute

[Anonymous No.9254465]

The last regular issue was released in Sept 1996, which was after Resident Evil (may 1996).

The final special issue was released in May 1997 which was after Final Fantasy 7 (Jan 31, 1997).

I can't conceptually wrap my head around going to a store and buying PC Engine fan in one hand, and having Resident Evil or FF7 in the other.

https://archive.org/details/super-pc-engine-fan-deluxe-volume-1
https://archive.org/details/super-pc-engine-fan-deluxe-volume-2

[Anonymous No.9254663]

>>9254465
>last issue
TG-16bros...

[Anonymous No.9254895]

[Anonymous No.9254993]

>>9250771
Jinn is a plural, genie (jinni) is singular.