/crt/

[Anonymous No.9184160]

Getting work done edition

[Anonymous No.9184167]

>>9184160
you opened it up!

[Anonymous No.9184207]

>>9184160
What do you have in mind OP?
I recently did an RGB mod on my 21" Trinitron.
I'm pretty bad at soldering though, so the work looks like mess.

[Anonymous No.9184235]

>>9184207
Recap probably, atleast getting corner convergance right

[Anonymous No.9184358]

>>9184160
I'm tempted to get a little CRT but I'm afraid of the day that it dies and repairing it is dangerous or becomes expensive. I have a retrotink so I don't really need it for anything but light gun games. Light gun games are so fucking cool though.

[Anonymous No.9184369]

>>9184358
Better then letting it go to the scrapyard no?

[Anonymous No.9184371]

I still need to repair my CRT. Hopefully sometime soon given I have a bit of time off work now.

[Anonymous No.9184441]

[Anonymous No.9184443]

>>9184441

[Anonymous No.9184475]

>>9184358
Just throw it out if it dies. Why would you try to repair it? Cost value for a cheap/free set (which I assume you want if you only want it for light gun games) is worth it.

Also honestly retro games look like shit on modern displays IMO. If I had to play on a modern display I would rather just emulate so I can apply filters and remove dithering.

[Anonymous No.9184523]

>>9184475
>Just throw it out if it dies. Why would you try to repair it?
People like you are what's wrong with this hobby.

[Anonymous No.9184526]

>>9184475
>Also honestly retro games look like shit on modern displays IMO. If I had to play on a modern display I would rather just emulate so I can apply filters and remove dithering.
I use a RetroTink

[Anonymous No.9184548]

Perfect OP. It's me >>9144670 again. I'm here to announce to all haters, doubters and other such /vr/min, that your "opinions" and "advice" were proven to be utterly counter-productive bullshit. The DeoxIT Gold contact enhancer, that you so vehemently claimed to be snakeoil, did its fucking job and fixed EVERY issue I had on the GDM-F520, not just the ghosting, but the blurry OSD too. At last!

Had I listened to your shitty general here, this marvel of a monitor would never have been fixed. And even ignoring that, I'm just appalled at the toxicity and the pure concentrated bullshit you managed to clog half of your thread with - and then have the audacity to claim I was the problem. Your posts have now aged like milk, and I'm having the last laugh.

This monitor hasn't otherwise aged a day, the factory temp presets are accurate to 50 damn kelvin! The chance of me finding anything as good as this ever again is nil. The risk I took purchasing this monitor was absolutely worth it.

[Anonymous No.9184710]

i have a little 5" set. the screen lit up but it was all white. i opened it up today and turned down the screen on the flyback and that seemed to help, there were colors in approximately the right places. the problem is that no matter where i set the focus, none of the screen was anywhere near in focus. that and the set made this clicking sound the whole time. i guess the flyback's shorted or something but i don't know.

[Anonymous No.9184714]

>>9184548
just the man i'm looking for. i'm wondering if you could you help me identify the problem with my cpd-g420. recently i noticed a whirring sound coming from near the deflection yoke, presumably from the dynamic convergence circuit. the sound comes and goes depending on what's being displayed on the screen. also, the warping issue that's also cropped up recently is gradually getting worse. all signs are point out that is on its last legs, probably some capacitors have dried up, but what can i do to identify the problem? i don't want to pay and arm and a leg for repair services might as well get a new one at that point

[Anonymous No.9184716]

>>9184714
*are pointing out that the thing is on its last legs

[Anonymous No.9184718]

I'm wanting to adjust some of the trimpots inside my CRT. Are these cermaic screwdrivers a good choice for that?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AJC29OI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_VqQqBbGC040Z6

[Anonymous No.9184736]

>>9184714
This F520 produces a faint buzz depending on load too, I presume it's normal, unless yours is something clearly different.
What kind of warping? Recapping the card/board responsible for the geometry can actually be a good idea here. By messing with WinDAS you can probably find exactly what control is failing, and go from there.
This file has good description of what the circuits on this chassis do:
https://servicemanuals.us/sony/monitor/cpd-g420-cpd-g420s-cpd-g520-gdm-f520.html
However, it would be nice to get the original PDF instead of this garbage HTML convert, can anyone find one?

[Anonymous No.9184751]

>>9184736
>What kind of warping?
vertical non-linearity. the right half of the screen is slightly tilted left.
>Recapping the card/board responsible for the geometry can actually be a good idea here

could you point me to which parts are those? i have zero any repairman skills, will probably just mark the caps that will need to be replaced for the tech guys

[Anonymous No.9184792]

>>9184751
Can you just take a picture of a crosshatch or something?
>could you point me to which parts are those?
I'm not qualified to make any sense of this monitor, but it seems DA card and the main board are the ones involved in most geometry.
You should really see if you can just correct it with WinDAS though. It'll be at least a temporary solution.

[Anonymous No.9184812]

>>9184792
i think you're right, fiddling around with windas seems to be the course of action for now, what will i need to set it up?

also, my osd is shaking and wobbling, the higher the res/refresh frequency, the more noticeable the shaking. what's it tell you?

[Anonymous No.9184819]

>>9184812
>what will i need to set it up?
There's a few ways to do it, but here's what I used:
WinDAS and DosDAS https://files.catbox.moe/6eze81.rar (patched and all, works ootb)
64bit Windows 7 with this fix https://yewtu.be/watch?v=FR7apz7uWZ4
CP2102 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000120687489.html
Get some good jumpers too, you can see actually in my picture >>9184548 I'm using a serial cable to extend my jumpers in a janky way.

>also, my osd is shaking and wobbling, the higher the res/refresh frequency, the more noticeable the shaking. what's it tell you?
My F520 has this too, it's like slight noise in the exact position of the OSD. Normal? I don't know.
The no-signal screen was really blurry on mine before I greased the video boards connectors with the DeoxIT Gold, but the OSD noise still remained.

[Anonymous No.9184834]

>>9184819
>Normal?
don't think so, the it wasn't doing that when i just bought it. then it gradually went from slightly noticeable to very noticeable in the span of 3 months. i got this guy in a pretty rough condition all things considered. it'll be a shame if i have to junk it, you don't come across higher-end trinitrons in my area very often. especially not for $3.

thanks for all your help, anon.

[Anonymous No.9184842]

>>9184834
Messing with the video board could still clear it up, give it a reseat. It's the video board that generates the OSD, and it's connected to the rest of the monitor via these flimsy corroing plain metal contacts which are the cause of all the ghosting issues on F520's.

[Anonymous No.9184870]

>>9184718
They will work.

[Anonymous No.9184924]

Are Samsung crts good

[Anonymous No.9184937]

>>9184441
Do you have lag with that VGA converter?

[Anonymous No.9184980]

>34"
>90kg
>unopened
>$100
Should I?

[Anonymous No.9185024]

>>9184160
hey i got a ps2 set up with an HDD and all and it runs fine but on my big modern TV the image looks like ass
I was wondering what is a good medium sized CRT to use? are CRT tvs expensive?

[Anonymous No.9185034]

>>9184980
It still has everything in it? I say take it.

[Anonymous No.9185069]

>>9185024
>I was wondering what is a good medium sized CRT to use?
For PS2 any CRT with component input(or scart if you're euro) will work.
Just search for olds TVs locally

[Anonymous No.9185184]

Any Japanons here? How's the CRT market over there? I looked at Yahoo auctions some time ago and it seemed fine, but maybe I got the wrong picture or there are better local sites to browse in search of CRTs.
What about the inputs? How common is JP-21 really? I know that YPbPr component via D-terminal was popular in the later years and also heard about some Sony TVs having a multi AV input with the same connector that you can find on a PS1/2/3, so getting quality connections shouldn't be too difficult, but I'm curious nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.9185212]

>>9185184
It's the only place on earth you'll ever find the RDF225WG. 22" 140khz AdobeRGB CRT.

[Anonymous No.9185291]

i have a sony bravia smart tv, it can install all apps from google play which is cool
is there an app i can install to make it better emulate CRT? i just want my ps2 games to look better

[Anonymous No.9185341]

Mianko

[Anonymous No.9185370]

>>9184980
Yes absolutely. A NIB a CRT today tv are very uncommon. If the caps are good that thing will last you well into the 2030s.

[Anonymous No.9185538]

>>9184819
>F520
Oh no I wont work properly unless everything is cleaned perfectly and my contacts are spotless
>Belinea
Voltage regulation out again, slap the side untill it goes back to normal

[Anonymous No.9185570]

>>9185538
Clean your room.

[Anonymous No.9185710]

>>9185538
Poorfag cope again. You will never have a good monitor.
t. not Marisa-anon but I also hate you

[Anonymous No.9185720]

>>9185710
Picked up a 130khz tube recently.
Low end tube hate is unjustified, other then being a bit bigger and sharper there is little difference in actual use.

[Anonymous No.9185753]

>>9185720
>Picked up a 130khz tube recently.
No proof.
>Low end tube hate is unjustified, other then being a bit bigger and sharper there is little difference in actual use.
It is justified. There's no need to settle for less if better things available. High-end CRT's are a world of a difference. They're engineered to a higher standard. Better reliability, convergence, focus, high voltage regulation, size, serviceability stripe/dot pitch and so on. What you're saying is a pure cope.

[Anonymous No.9185768]

>>9185753
Not denying that they are better but:
>1. Matters shit for retro games
>2. Doesnt really matter for desktop usage either
Only for modern games it really matters( and even then 96khz is just fine)
Cer dick measuring contest is stupid, only really low end 15' tubes are kinda worthless

[Anonymous No.9185818]

>>9185768
>>1. Matters shit for retro games
False, furthermore PC CRT's aren't meant for retro gaming (unless the game was made specifically for a PC)
>>2. Doesnt really matter for desktop usage either
It absolutely does, retard. Text is more readable with a tighter pitch and superior focus, and more things can fit on a screen with a higher resolution.

[Anonymous No.9185823]

>>9185768
>>9185818
You should both just give up and admit a modern screen beats it all.

[Anonymous No.9185958]

you know after buying a CRT and stuff im starting to think old games just look like ass and CRT isn't gonna fix it

[Anonymous No.9186007]

Just don't reply to the coping spammer.

>>9185823
OLED maybe, and even that's a downgrade in motion clarity and lifetime.

[Anonymous No.9186018]

>>9186007
>coping spammer
who do you mean?

[Anonymous No.9186023]

>>9186018
Ranfag obviously, not you onionboss

[Anonymous No.9186028]

>>9186023
oh thanks bro i was worried i posted cringe

[Anonymous No.9186115]

>>9186007
Cope and seethe Tohou troon
>inb4 iiyama isnt high end
Swear to god I will track down a 21' high khz Trinitron to shut your dumb mouth

[Anonymous No.9186118]

Forgot pic.
Its a pretty nice crt with the same great tube as my NEC

[Anonymous No.9186127]

look at that. the tranime crew are arguing with each other.
go back to /g/ you fucking fagets

[Anonymous No.9186231]

>>9186127
Pretty rich to call it an argument when it's just one party having delusions, thinking I've said anything to them.

[Anonymous No.9186239]

>>9186231
you came here along with him nobody cares about your F520 with Tranime

[Anonymous No.9186279]

shadow mask is just more soulfull and comfy

[Anonymous No.9186294]

ill return to these threads once anons quit showcasing wallpapers

[Anonymous No.9186339]

>>9186115
>>9186127
>>9186239
Fuck off, groomers.

[Anonymous No.9186343]

>>9186294
Okay, fair critizism. I do not post here usually anyway because I have interest in retro games, apart from touhou.

[Anonymous No.9186350]

>>9186294
Okay, fair critizism. I do not post here usually anyway because I have no interest in retro games, apart from touhou.

[Anonymous No.9186365]

>>9186350
just go away spammer why would you go to a retro video game board if you have no interest in it?

[Anonymous No.9186367]

>>9186343
>>9186350
what did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.9186372]

>>9186367
It's an advanced technique to fix a typo. Delete the old post and repost the fixed one. You end up with a cleaner thread after reload, versus double-post *-fixing.

[Anonymous No.9186391]

if the tranny janny is going to delete posts. delete the non gaming images as well u fucking faget

[Anonymous No.9186392]

>>9186391
No the janny deleted >>9186350 so obviously they want more of my touhou wallpapers

[Anonymous No.9186415]

>>9184548
chad made the average 4chan shittalkers look like fucking idiots, full respect

[Anonymous No.9186450]

>>9184548
i would rather have ten thousand of these posts than one single reddit gold moment thanking everyone for their advice. if having to use your brain in order to not ruin your own shit is part of this mess then i never want it to change. good on you for solving your problem. i'd go even further to say that /vr/ is to thank for pushing towards actually going through with DeoxIT so all in all it really did work out!

[Anonymous No.9186460]

>>9186450
you sound like an actual pretentious faggot

[Anonymous No.9186476]

>>9186460
takes one to know one gay boy

[Anonymous No.9186479]

>>9186476
true i am also pretentious

[Anonymous No.9186493]

>>9186479
don't think that this admission is forgiveness for being mean to me. you aren't going to have your way with me pretentious faggot.

[Anonymous No.9186640]

I just got a beautiful PVM 1953MD. However, when I hook up my Wii via component, it only outputs green. Any solutions. N64 via S Video works perfectly

[Anonymous No.9186668]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Is there anything I can do?

[Anonymous No.9186698]

>>9184548
good job anon
>>9186450
>taking credit
lol

[Anonymous No.9186709]

>>9186294
He is a mod.

[Anonymous No.9186736]

>>9184548
I told you should have tried the basics before ripping it apart, which you already so it was a moot point. Not that deoxit which is really fucking good is snake oil, glad its working but no need to be a cunt about it.

[Anonymous No.9186768]

>>9186118
Shit, I had the same monitor but once when I was using it there was a sound of bursting and smoke billowing from the inside.
I assumed it was completely out of order and just got rid of it.
Now I understand that it must've been an exploded capacitor and I could try to clean it up and replace the cap.
Massive regrets.

[Anonymous No.9186807]

>>9186668
I just looked at this on my PC and it's hard to tell what I'm screaming about even though the image looks clear on my phone, but one of the phosphors is just not lighting. Do I just have to deal with having a black speck on the screen from now on?

[Anonymous No.9186919]

Found this IBM 5151 clone at a thrift store dumpster. How the fuck do I drive this thing?

[Anonymous No.9186923]

>>9186919
Damnit, it's sideways

[Anonymous No.9186935]

>>9186923
Perfect, it's already set for tate mode

[Anonymous No.9186981]

comparison of snes outputs. game is earth defense force (no relation to the edf series)

[Anonymous No.9186989]

[Anonymous No.9186993]

[Anonymous No.9187097]

EDF! EDF! EDF!

[Anonymous No.9187101]

>>9184160
I feel like someone here might be able to answer my somewhat obscure PS2/PS3 interlacing question.

If I have a 60GB backwards compatible PS3 set to output 1080i and I decide to play a PS2 game, will it upscale the 480i output straight to 1080i and maintain the interlacing? Or will it internally deinterlace the 480i to 480p first (since an "HD" res is selected), then reinterlace the 480p to 1080i during the upscaling process?

[Anonymous No.9187215]

>>9186981
>>9186989
>>9186993
Is it bad I can't tell the difference?

[Anonymous No.9187225]

How do I find a good CRT? What brands of models should I look for? Where should I look? Help!

[Anonymous No.9187239]

>>9187225
Anything with component (if not EUpoor). Anything made after 2000. Sony, Panasonic, Toshiba. Don’t get HD/widescreen CRT because they convert analog to digital for upscaling which introduces input lag. Monitors with VGA or DVI. This is not comprehensive covering all cases but is generally what you need to start looking.

Or alternatively get literally any shitbox with composite because you will get bored in a month anyway.

[Anonymous No.9187269]

>>9187215
nah, it's pretty subtle in those pix. here's a better comparison but the files were too big so i've resized them

[Anonymous No.9187272]

[Anonymous No.9187274]

note the lack of dot crawl on SHIELD and the bolt

[Anonymous No.9187449]

>>9186981
>>9186989
>>9186993
honestly i like rf and composite a lot more. they add the right amount of noise and blend the colours together. easy to see in the colour banding on the horizon

[Anonymous No.9187463]

>>9186981
looks a bit too fuzzy
>>9186989
looks great but I'm sure in motion it has dot crawl issues
>>9186993
too sharp for me, you can see every pixel

I prefer to play my 3rd to 5th gen in composite, maybe svideo on 5th

[Anonymous No.9187480]

Post /cozy/ setups

[Anonymous No.9187617]

>>9187480
I may get some hate for how it looks but I build this over years to be the most comfy it can be, the desk is amazing

[Anonymous No.9187637]

My CRT needs repairing as well but I lack the time and more importantly, space, to open it up and leave it open while I diagnose the exact issue, so I just ended up putting it back together, and storing it in my basement, along with 3 other working units, I might just end up selling them all or giving them away for free.

Wish I had a bigger place.

[Anonymous No.9187643]

>>9185212
how does this compare to the lacie electron22blue4? i have one and it looks the exact same as this

[Anonymous No.9187647]

>>9187643
Nobody knows, this monitor really seems exclusive to japan, nobody in the western CRT communities have any experience with it.
By specs it's supposed to be otherwise similiar to the DP2070SB and it's rebadges, but with a AdobeRGB gamut. The only difference between sRGB and AdobeRGB is that the green is much more saturated. To achieve that saturation, the green phosphor on the RDF is much slower than the red and blue.
So in practice it's a bigger liability, unless you're actually doing prints on a CRT for some damn reason. But it is the only wide gamut PC CRT monitor, a very unique tube.

[Anonymous No.9187659]

>>9187647
i see, sounds like mine is better for me since it pretty much covers srgb and i dont need extremely accurate color reproduction
the lacie is pretty much endgame for me and only a few higher end monitors beat it
idk if i should keep lurking ad sites anymore because ive been looking for more than a year and only found this one and a mid range 19 inch

[Anonymous No.9187676]

>>9187659
Yea I think the only two monitors actually better than the DP2070SB's are the GDM-F520 and *maybe* the Eizo F980.

[Anonymous No.9187683]

>>9184526
its still shit.

[Anonymous No.9187684]

>>9187676
i think the eizos are really interesting, they use shadow mask tubes and make really high end monitors
i might try getting one of those

[Anonymous No.9187691]

>>9184160
How and where do I find good old monitors?

[Anonymous No.9187695]

>>9187691
usually the best way is to look at local ad sites
it might take a long time (it took me about a year of looking every day to get a good monitor) but that depends on other factors
also put up buying ads in your country's local ad sites
another thing you can do is go to an ewaste recycling center, but i havent done that yet so i cant guarantee anything
the key is being persistent and being fast when something comes up, most of the time you will have to compete with other people for high end momitors

[Anonymous No.9187696]

>>9187684
I'd really like to some day get a hold of the F980 too, just to compare to my GDM-F520. They're just so damn rare though ...

[Anonymous No.9187698]

>>9187684
Eizo is really nice

[Anonymous No.9187704]

>>9187696
what can you recommend for monitor maintenance? im somewhat new to this and i cant really get the lacie monitor to focus well
i tried the focus pots in the back as well as the service menu but it still doesnt look that great
it might just be me not doing it well
the sharpest picture on a crt ive seen was on a 17 inch viewsonic and it really was miles away from what i can get the lacie to

[Anonymous No.9187715]

Dors anyone know how to mod proper color adjustments on monitors with no service menu?
Potenciometer after pre amp?

[Anonymous No.9187726]

>>9187704
First just make sure you're using good cables and a good adapter, if you're using one. Common HDMI-VGA ones can really mess with the picture. See if reducing refresh rate improves the "focus", you may actually be just hitting bandwidth limits.
If your Lacie's focus works the same as my NEC, the service menu options control the edge/center balance, while the flyback pots control the overall focus. All the controls and pots depend on each other, so you'll have to mess with all of them over and over again to get it to the optimal values.
Do these adjustments on the resolution that you use the most, and want to look the best. At least on my monitor, the optimal settings do vary slightly per res. You want to also experiment with different test patterns, it may be easier to see what you're doing with something else than the basic ones in the NEC pattern generator.
I hope some of that helps.

[Anonymous No.9187728]

>already have a dell p1130
I don't need an f520... I don't need an f520...

[Anonymous No.9187970]

I got this KV-25X5K (FE-1 chassis) for 20€. The set is in great condition. I can't find the hour count in the service menu, but the seller told me that it hasn't been used much. Overall he was a pretty cool guy, seemed to know his shit about CRTs and electronics in general.
Don't pay attention to my ghetto setup, it's temporary. I just had to place the TV somewhere for testing.

[Anonymous No.9187980]

>>9187970
I don't know if the previous owner adjusted it, but the geometry is nearly perfect. There's only a minor problem in the top corners. I tried to fix it, but I haven't had much success without messing up something else, so I think I'll just live with that. It's not like it's that noticeable in actual gameplay, even in top-down/side scrolling games.

[Anonymous No.9187985]

Has anyone ever modded a crt with digital controls to have analog ones?

[Anonymous No.9188004]

>>9187980
Here's some SoulCalibur 2 oppai running on a PS2 via RGB.
Man, it's hard to take good photos of a CRT. All taken during the day with the TV facing the windows, unfortunately. This one is ISO 200, 1/60s. I can't get the focus right, it's either blurry af or I get moire out the ass. Having to resize doesn't help, either.

[Anonymous No.9188006]

>>9187985
I know people used to solder potentiometers to flat Sonys to give analog G2 control. Proper way is to use WinDAS obv

[Anonymous No.9188017]

>>9188004
Have some cute closeup of Arle-chan, too. ISO 100, 1/30s.
I've since adjusted the black level and contrast (after it got dark). The picture looks much better now. Maybe I'll try to set the white balance properly later, because it's a bit too cold. I don't have a colorimeter, so I'll have to use another display as reference.

[Anonymous No.9188019]

>>9188017
Forgot the pic.

[Anonymous No.9188067]

>>9188006
Not talking about g2 but colors, alot of monitors dont have bias adjustment available

[Anonymous No.9188080]

>>9188017
I like the way DVDs look on it, too. ISO 200, 1/60s.
I wanted to play something more period-accurate, but didn't have any DVD like that at hand. Time Warp is retro themed anyway, the limited edition even came with an audio cassette.

Also, one weird thing I noticed: the separate input channel for RGB (it's also on AV1) is hard shifted by -10 on the H-Centre setting in the service menu compared to AV1, so the whole picture is moved to the right, which happens to be more correct than the setting on AV1.
Unfortunately it's hard to adjust this in real time, because AV1 and RGB are always 10 ticks apart (unless I set it to less than 10 on AV1, the minimum is 0) and the controls for V-Size, H-Centre and H-Size don't work when fed a 60Hz signal, so I have to switch to an empty input like AV2 or something (the settings are shared between all channels and modes) and adjust it blindly or just use a PAL game, and those seem to be all over the place when it comes to visible area.

[Anonymous No.9188087]

I am unsure where to try placing a potenciometer, after the pre amp chip is what im thinking right now, but will it fuck up the entire color and how much resitance should the pot have?

[Anonymous No.9188118]

is it possible to plug a CRT TV to my computer so I can play emulator on it ?

[Anonymous No.9188150]

>>9188118
Absolutely, the easy way is buying an HDMI to AV adapter, but these add lag and are pretty bad quality wise.
Using a VGA to RGB scart adpter is better and lagless

[Anonymous No.9188164]

>>9188150
if my video card has no VGA out, can I use a Displayport to VGA then VGA to RGB scart adapter?

[Anonymous No.9188198]

>>9188164
Im not sure, since crt tvs need a 15khz signal(either 240p or 480i) the dot clock may be too low for the adapter, but in theory it should work, depends if the adapter supports 240p, if it does it should work

[Anonymous No.9188310]

>>9187269
>>9187272
>>9187274
Alright I see it a little better now. A bit of noise on the RF one. BUt comparing Composite to S-Video, they look the same.

[Anonymous No.9188339]

>>9188310
>comparing Composite to S-Video, they look the same
Get your eyes checked, anon. There's a world of difference on the ship's details, for example. Not to mention the dot crawl.

[Anonymous No.9188353]

>>9188339
It could just be that I'm not sure what I'm suppose to be looking at, but they both seem very similar to me.

[Anonymous No.9188425]

>>9187617
Are Samsungs worth picking up? I'm in the market for some CRTs but all that's on sale in my area are these mid to low-end Samsungs. Which is better: DFX or MB?

[Anonymous No.9188448]

Anybody here own a B&O? I love my MX 6000, but using RGB on it produces horizontal ghosting lines. It was the same on an MX 8000 I once own, and is apparently something that happens on most of their CRTs when using RGB. Do any of you guys know if there's some sort of fix to this problem? I don't mind to play through composite on older consoles, but I do prefer using RGB on 6th generation consoles like my gamecube, and those lines are just distracting.

[Anonymous No.9188458]

>>9188425
Yes they are worth picking up and DFX, however if you want to use the samsung version of windas you need to build your own adapter.
Alot of them look pretty bad when you get them, very blurry, was the case with of mine but it can easily be fixed by adjusting the focus.
If your willing to open them and adjust the focus potencialöy go for it

[Anonymous No.9188478]

>>9188448
I have mx4000. Can you take a photo?

[Anonymous No.9188517]

>>9188478
I don't have a camera, but here's a picture someone else took of their MX 4000 with the same issue. The lines going from the platforms to the right. They might seem subtle, but they're very noticeable in motion. My TV is a bit worse than this.

[Anonymous No.9188531]

>>9188458
Would, say, SyncMaster 795 MB be a step-down in terms of image quality compared to a middle-end Trinitron?

[Anonymous No.9188540]

>>9188531
Depends on the Trinitron, but aslong as its in good condition about equal to a cheaper 17' sony

[Anonymous No.9188593]

>>9188540
Guess I'll give them a try but I'm still a little wary. I had a Samtron once, which is just a cheaper version of Samsung as far as the actual specs are concerned, and after 10 minutes of use i got a huge headache and had to take a nap. Needless to say the picture quality was also atrocious.

[Anonymous No.9188636]

>>9188593
I dont get headaches from my samsungs or other crts, but the picture quality is decent on the samsung, can recommend if you get it cheap.
Got mine for free and very happy, even though i really dont like samsung as a brand usually

[Anonymous No.9188638]

>>9187970
I found the hour count in the menu. For any anons with an FE-1 chassis out there, it turns out you have to enter the error table by pressing DISPLAY, 5, VOL-, TV while in standby (the regular service menu combination has VOL+ instead). The service manual doesn't even mention the time counter anywhere, not even in the section about the error table.
Anyway, the set has 6570h on it, so it's indeed been used lightly. I gotta say I'm very satisfied with my purchase.

[Anonymous No.9188667]

After trying two high end monitors, man these are overhyped.
Only one im really interested in now is rhe eizo f980 and maybe the 2070sb because i adore both brands monitors

[Anonymous No.9188691]

>>9188667
>After trying two high end monitors, man these are overhyped.
What monitors?
Don't tell me you're using some 19" Iiyama and think that's high-end

[Anonymous No.9188741]

>>9188691
No, ive used a few high end sonys that get shilled here aswell.
Apart from the higher res its nothing special, colors arent better, blacks arent better, response time and co isnt better and voltage regulation is marginally better but its allready very good even on mid end tubes.
The higher res from tighter pitch and more khz is pretty much all they have going for them, but maybe the ones I have are just lemons, after a proper calibration well see

[Anonymous No.9188748]

Its not like with lcd where better lcds have better tech, only the electronics and the sharpness can differ from crt to crt, its all the same phosphors being struck by an electron beam

[Anonymous No.9188875]

>>9188741
>>9188748
I've had quite a different experience.
The jump from an average cheapo 96khz 19" to a mere 110khz 22" Diamondtron is so big I'll never want to go back. Then again from that to a 137khz Trinitron, another world of difference.
>blacks arent better
In my experience higher end monitors have much better coating and gamma behavior, so their blacks ARE better. Voltage regulation is a factor too, and the amount of stray electrons is also lesser. But wear is a factor.
>colors arent better,
Uniformity varies by a lot. The higher end the monitor, the higher binned the tube, the smoother and cleaner the colors. Wear is also absolutely a factor in this too though.
The stray electrons of previous point also do wash out the colors.
With insufficient voltage regulation you can never have the black level optimally set, washing out colors even further in many situations.
Also I swear the colors on my F520 are so much more saturated than on my other CRTs, but that's actually unlikely to be true - I suspect the cleanliness and higher brightness of the tube creates this illusion.
>response time
>phophors
Depends on the exact tube but there's a difference between the trailing between monitors. The short SMPTE-C phosphors on my F520 produce noticeably cleaner motion compared to my NEC, though at lower refresh rates the Sony is also much more straining.

Now, I can admit I'm quite an autist about my monitors, I recognize a person less passionate about this stuff may not experience the differences as strongly as I do.

[Anonymous No.9188884]

>>9188638
Thanks anon, I have the same TV. I think mine was also lightly used.

[Anonymous No.9188889]

>>9188875
Well necs are the best thwre no denying that but i think your 96khz was just trash if it was such a massive jump

[Anonymous No.9188960]

>>9187970
great set anon, literally the perfect consumer 90s crt, very nostalgic to me

[Anonymous No.9188975]

how many explosions/injuries etc have been posted here over the years? i kind of remember someone losing an eye, maybe said elsewhere

[Anonymous No.9189271]

>>9188975
more like back injuries

[Anonymous No.9189287]

thoughts on rca adapters?

[Anonymous No.9189295]

>>9189287
rca is shit and rca through an adapter even more so

[TheWhiteDevil27 No.9189319]

>>9189287

It's fine if you use one but there's a hdmi to s-video adapter being sold on Amazon US by 2 no name manufacturers called YOTOCAP and LiNKFOR right now that supports 4K 60hz so if you have a set that supports s-video (like my Sony Trintron KV-27S45), a hdmi to rca adapter is utterly pointless.

[Anonymous No.9189326]

>>9189295
>>9189319
no s-video, it's a poverty a/v combo set that i rescued from someone who was going to dump it

[Anonymous No.9189331]

>>9189326
the adapter is good enough for video but it just sucks for gaming because it adds loads of input lag

[Anonymous No.9189334]

>>9189331
thanks, that's what i was afraid of

[Anonymous No.9189358]

>find a listing on zuckerberg marketplace
>22" Panasonic
>completely clean
>cheap
>short drive away
>even has DVD and VHS players built in
>ask if it has S-Video (with picture in case they have no clue)
>no S-Video
I was quite disappointed to see that message. I did find a similarly sized Sanyo with S-Video but it's dusty and cobwebbed to hell. Might go for that one, nothing a bit of cleaning can't fix.

[Anonymous No.9189364]

>>9184548
>DeoxIT Gold contact enhancer
Nice, I got one of those monitors too lying around, but never used it much because of the ghosting. Gonna get around to fixing it sometimes now that I've read this post.

[Anonymous No.9189401]

>>9189358
just rgb mod

[Anonymous No.9189438]

>>9189364
Just reseating the video board may be enough to clear up the ghosting. You may want to try that before trying the "snakeoils".
I think it may actually be worth documenting all I know about this issue and monitor in video form. Just getting the case opened can be an obstacle if you don't know precisely how to apply force to the top clips. And getting the video board itself out of its ridiculously tight sockets is a pain in the ass ..

Also worth nothing is the contact enhancer isn't a permanent solution. It will eventually need to be reapplied.
I still really want to get to the actual bottom of this. to know which exact pin is causing the issue. There's a working temporary solution, but no permanent one.

[Anonymous No.9189442]

>>9184160
im to the point where i think i gotta open my crt to really fix the screen. i've exhausted all the service menu options and it still just looks warped.

[Anonymous No.9189448]

>>9188517
It's been a while since I used my mx4000 but yes I'm pretty sure it has this, probably quite similar to the photo. I also have a plasma TV that has it much worse so I know it can be irritating.

[Anonymous No.9189735]

How do I fix certain games being displayed "off-center". When I play Yuris Revenge, I'll get a black bar on the left side and top, like it's shifted down and to the right. But It only happens on certain games like red alert 2, while other games and the desktop display fine. Is this an issue with the games, or the monitor itself? I don't want to fuck around with the monitors geometry because it seems like it's set fine on my geometry tool program.

[Anonymous No.9189741]

>>9189735
Just adjust the position of the image, what's the big deal?

[Anonymous No.9189770]

>>9189741
Well I thought that if I adjusted the position for this game, it'll just cause issues for the other games that worked previously. I guess my question is: are CRT monitors supposed to automatically display games to fill the screen at any supported resolution? That's what I assumed, but I'm not sure. If not, do I just have to adjust the screen every time something does fill the screen? I thought everything would just fill the screen after calibrating it with the geometry program.

[Anonymous No.9189783]

>>9189770
You have to adjust it for every resolution and refresh rate. If you change the video card you have to adjust it again.

[Anonymous No.9189836]

>>9189783
Ok, thank you for the info.
I switched my desktop to 800x600, calibrated, and now it's displaying properly. I think the problem was I calibrated it using a 5:4 res of 1280x1024 and was playing 4:3 games.

[Anonymous No.9189994]

What's the best value CRT I can get? I know prices are inflated as fuck right now but I'm looking for a companion to my PC gaming setup for retro games.

[Anonymous No.9190046]

>>9189994
Go to facebook marketplace (sadly this is the best way to get CRTs) and search “old tv” or “tube tv”.

[Anonymous No.9190112]

>>9187970
Is it one of the shit ones that had cases that break on their own?

Also, what TVs sets from the late 90s had Component or is it just for the flat screen ones? And did only the bigger models abobe 20' had them?

[Anonymous No.9190226]

>>9190112
>Is it one of the shit ones that had cases that break on their own?
Never heard of that happening, and certainly not with this model. Honestly all I've seen about it on the net is praise and even people calling it a holy grail of EU CRTs.

[Anonymous No.9190325]

>>9189994
Go to any junkyard and pick

[Anonymous No.9190512]

Any tips for getting the fucking anode cap back on? It feels impossible. Looks like pic.

[Anonymous No.9190530]

>>9184207
A small tip for soldering
Use flux and everything will look much better and go exactly where you want it to

[Anonymous No.9190548]

>>9190512
nvm, got it.

[Anonymous No.9190601]

Is this a good TV? It’s widescreen obviously. It’s my brothers and I think I could get it “free” if I can replace it with a cheap lcd of the same size. I want to say it’s about 32”

[Anonymous No.9190635]

>>9187728
U need an F250

[Anonymous No.9190708]

>>9190601
If it's got HDMI in it's likely shit for retro, it will "deinterlace" 240p and add ton of lag.
Should be pretty good to play PS3 and upwards, though.

[Anonymous No.9190925]

>>9190601
that doesn't even look like a crt. if i saw that listed somewhere i would likely overlook it

[Anonymous No.9191076]

>>9190925
It is CRT, pretty late model so the design is reminiscent of crappy early LCD TVs

[Anonymous No.9191132]

how the fuck do i connect this tv(scart or composite) to my rx570(DVI-d or hdmi, displayport)? I already tried one of those vga2av chinkshit converters, and it worked, no noticable input lag either, i would stick to it but for some reason after using it for a couple minutes the top of the screen starts bleeding color and after that the whole screen will flash from b&w to color. Next i tried scart to vga to female vga to male dvi. Just cables, no converters, and after fucking around with CRU i got it to look like picrel, except irl it was only red and blue, tried crt emudriver and AMD display settings but i had no idea what i was doing so i just tried diffrent resolutions for like an hour and gave up. Wat do?

[Anonymous No.9191146]

>>9191132
The output resolution is too high
Are you perhaps trying a 480p image?

[Anonymous No.9191194]

80 bux for 22" Diamondtron 2070SB, good deal or nah?

[Anonymous No.9191197]

>>9191194
Absolutely. The 2070SB is one of the best CRT displays ever made.
Do check the condition and hours first though.

[Anonymous No.9191246]

>>9191197
25k hours, looks good on photos, gonna go pick it up on the weekend then

[Anonymous No.9191256]

>>9191246
That's somewhat high. It still probably has plenty life left, those things were built with ridiculous brightness headroom, but it's past it's prime.
I'd still say it's worth 80 bucks tho. For a low-hour unit I'd gladly pay up to 300.

[Anonymous No.9191851]

>>9191246
>>9191256
25k hours is nothing for a 2070sb, if it hasnt been used in superbright mode.
If you do get anon, never ever use superbright mode it wears it out very fast just use normal mode and it should last forever

[Anonymous No.9191857]

There is some construction going on at this building right next to me and they've been welding. Everytime they arc and weld my crt monitor pulses and gets dim. Its kinda cool.

[Anonymous No.9191873]

I pulled my CTX from the attic

[Anonymous No.9191884]

>>9191873

[Anonymous No.9191886]

>>9191857
This is the issue with shitty technology. Once again the CRT displays its inability to maintain a good picture.

[Anonymous No.9191887]

>>9191884
it fucking rotated

[Anonymous No.9191916]

I found this boi today literally on my doorstep while going out to do groceries. Words cannot describe how lucky I got, I live in a large capital of a western country, nobody is throwing these anymore because people are aware that they have value as a niche retro gaming thingy and when they throw them on the streets the Romanians snatch them within 15 minutes to sell for scrap.

It's a KV-21FX30B, geometry looks good but it seems like the picture has been slightly rotated, is it easily fixable? Should I even bother? I'm so fucking happy with it, I think I'm gonna sell my 14 inch PVM and keep this one, it's not as sharp as the pvm but the colors look so vivid and the gains going from 14" (actually 13) to 21" is phenomenal, I can't believe I've been missing out for so long, it feels like putting on glasses for the first time.

[Anonymous No.9191947]

>>9191916
Doesn't the FX30 series have picture rotation in user menu? Either way it should be fixable via the service menu. By all means keep this TV, FX30 series is awesome.

[Anonymous No.9191960]

>>9191916
Anon, your set has a "rotation" option in the service menu. Hit google and find your service manual. It'll tell you how to access your TV's service menu. However, it's just a little rotation, so you shouldn't even need much adjustment. Anyway, nice score! Enjoy some games.

[Anonymous No.9191985]

>>9191960
>"rotation" option in the service menu
I don't have a remote yet but that's nice. I was fearing that I would have to play with potentiometers to fix it or worse.

[Anonymous No.9191987]

[Anonymous No.9192000]

>>9191194
The fact that you're asking this question is absolutely absurd to me.

[Anonymous No.9192120]

someone 2 hours away is giving away a 35" Sony Trinitron, and he says he's going to throw it away if no one picks it up. Is it worth saving?

[Anonymous No.9192137]

>>9192120
If 35 is not a typo that's huge and pretty rare, the biggest Trinitron I ever saw was 34"
This size is pretty impractical but I'd take it anyway to see how games look on a giant tube then give it away again.

[Anonymous No.9192141]

>>9192137
The model number is KV-35V36

[Anonymous No.9192193]

I have a dumb question regarding composite. I noticed composite behaves differently on TVs than on PVMs. Playing NES on a consumer set I get a bit of a "shaky" image, certain sprites and colors seem to flicker, almost like interlaced. On the PVM the image is stable although grainy but instead there are visible wave patterns on light colored backgrounds. What is causing this disparity?

[Anonymous No.9192201]

>>9192193
different composite decoders, composite is simply RGB except squished into less then one third of the bandwith, its up to the TV to turn it back into RGB

[Anonymous No.9192210]

>>9192201
So it display does it differently? Is there one type of decoder that is "superior" to the others or is it just something to not worry about?

[Anonymous No.9192214]

>>9192210
*each

[Anonymous No.9192246]

>>9192120
its going to be fucking heavy but if the picture/geometry is good i would def grab it. there probably aren't a ton of them that size out there and you may not come across one again, plus its a trinny

[Anonymous No.9192248]

>>9192210
the newer the better, but why the hell are you using composite on a PVM???

[Anonymous No.9192261]

>>9192248
For AV Famicom mostly, occasionally Genesis, I fell for the waterfall meme and now games just feel weird without the dithering.

[Anonymous No.9192269]

>>9192261
might aswell play on a small TV ad that point but you do you

[Anonymous No.9192290]

>>9192201
>composite is simply RGB except squished into less then one third of the bandwith
Not really, for backwards compatibilty with b/w TVs it's not RGB, but YUV/YIQ, depending on the encoding system (PAL/NTSC). Y is the luminance (black and white picture), the other two are chrominance components (color information). By combining them all you get a full color picture. So you could say it's component squished into one cable instead.

[Anonymous No.9192296]

>>9192290
component however is just encoded RGB aswell, in the end it all gets converted back

[Anonymous No.9193376]

>>9192193
>Playing NES on a consumer set I get a bit of a "shaky" image, certain sprites and colors seem to flicker, almost like interlaced
It definitely should not look like that on a regular CRT TV unless you've got one of the newer ones that deinterlaces shit and displays it as 480p

[Anonymous No.9194154]

Hey /vr/ finally joined the crt gang, rate my box

[Anonymous No.9194262]

>>9194154
Pretty good. It goes up to ~96kHz horizontal, so unfortunately you can't go too crazy with resolutions and refresh rates. Try out 1024x768 at 120Hz.

[Anonymous No.9194280]

>>9184441
Ah, I had a Compaq 7500 - mine came with ugly ass speakers that you hooked onto the side of the monitor. Had it until about 2011 when it started to randomly turn completey dark, that was when I switched over to LCD for PC (which I don't regret).

[Anonymous No.9194876]

>>9194262
Close as I could get, looks amazing nonetheless

[Anonymous No.9194918]

Does anyone know how to open an RM-Y180? There are no screws and I can't figure it out.

[Anonymous No.9195031]

>>9188638
Hey anon, I tried accessing the menu using your instructions. Nothing happens, that is, the TV turns on upon inputing the sequence, but no menu shows up.

[Anonymous No.9195152]

Just finished RGB modding a small composite-only set. Worth it! These old black chassis curved tube sets are amazing when modded.

[Anonymous No.9195158]

>>9194876
this isn't the tranime poster is it? what do you plan on using your crt for?

[Anonymous No.9195207]

>>9191916
>it's not as sharp as the pvm but the colors look so vivid and the gains going from 14" (actually 13) to 21" is phenomenal
Just wait until you get a 29" or larger CRT, it's the peak 240p/480i experience imo

[Anonymous No.9195209]

>>9195152
pretty cool. what method did you use?

[Anonymous No.9195262]

>>9184443
My phone camera isn't really up to snuff for taking screenies, but I really love playing on my RCA with a flat-ish screen. Finally got a 1st place time attack record in Sega Rally Plus Netlink.

[Anonymous No.9195298]

>>9187272
>>9187274
I feel like the S-Video is missing some detail in the lightning bolt.

[Anonymous No.9195305]

crt thread

[Anonymous No.9195319]

>>9195298
Composite is creating detail where there isn't any. Probably caused by "dot crawl" artifacts.

[Anonymous No.9195356]

>>9195209
OSD mux method, not hard at all if you have a service manual in hand.

[Anonymous No.9195456]

>>9195158
Wtf is a tranime? I've only browse /vr/ on occasion. I got it for gaming and nostalgia really

[Anonymous No.9195505]

>>9195456
It's another word for chinese cartoons.

[Anonymous No.9195558]

>>9195456
DAYUM SON! tranny + anime = tranime

[Anonymous No.9195590]

been using my 36" set with snes and now my eyes have scanlines in them. i'm seeing horizontal lines

[Anonymous No.9196334]

Anyone used a CCTV monitor for vidya? I can put an rca adapter on this I'm assuming?

[Anonymous No.9196358]

>>9195590
this happens to me when I read small text on a bright LED screen for too long

[Anonymous No.9196363]

>>9195590
that's called reaching enlightenment

[Anonymous No.9196395]

>>9196334
yeh, you can use an adapter for composite. You in aus or nz?

[Anonymous No.9196405]

Remove your anti glare.

[Anonymous No.9196406]

>>9196395
aus

[Anonymous No.9196407]

>>9184160
Autists I found one of these for sale: https://www.manualslib.com/manual/230552/Sony-Gdm-F520-Marketing.html?page=2#manual

A sony GDM-F520, how much should I pay? They're asking for over 900 USD

[Anonymous No.9196429]

>>9196407
>$900 for a GDM-F520
And I was bullied for spending 250€ on one.

[Anonymous No.9196430]

>>9196406
Nz here. These "national" monitors are just panasonic btw. They used to go under the national brand pre-90s, so this monitor will be a little older fyi.

[Anonymous No.9196434]

Has anyone shipped internationally? Besides it being crazy expensive I'm worried about something with 30+ year old solders being handled. There is so little available in aus right now.
>>9196430
Good to know, cheers. this one is new in the box with the manual and remote still in wrap so condition is still good it seems.

[Anonymous No.9196438]

>>9196429
Well I obfuscated the price a bit because redditors made it sounds like this was THE CRT MONITOR. But I can't fucking afford that anyways. How long ago did you buy it?

[Anonymous No.9196442]

>>9196429
Thats still stupid though i spend 20 euros for my high end trintron

[Anonymous No.9196446]

>>9196442
You dumb nigger not everyone lives in whatever eurofag place you're in to get these prices. I live in the jewnited states.

[Anonymous No.9196461]

>>9196446
Was talking about the Touhoufag he is a euro.
Also its not worth 900$ get a cheaper monitor instead or look at ewaste places

[Anonymous No.9196468]

>>9196434
Nice. How much for?
>There is so little available in aus right now.
Just give it time bro. The market here is shitty too, but you still see good stuff crop up now and again. Assuming you don't live in wopland.

[Anonymous No.9196485]

>>9196438
> it sounds like this was THE CRT MONITOR
It IS the CRT monitor, the best one ever made. But it's not worth that much unless you're some kind of collector with money to burn. Hell, I spent as "much" as I did party for the bragging rights.
But really, getting any A1 CR1-chassis Trinitron gets you something almost as good as the F520, but for a fraction of the price. They're more reliable too, don't have the fussy A2 board of F520's.
>How long ago did you buy it?
Almost a year ago.

>>9196442
>>9196461
You know damn well I can sell this monitor for a lot more money than I bought it for.
And before you try to dispute this anyway, I've seen buy listings offer profitable sums for this exact monitor. But I ain't sellin, this one's a keeper.

[Anonymous No.9196492]

>>9196485
You didnt get bad deal im not implying that its just I wouldnt spend that much on a crt, especially one with known issues

[Anonymous No.9196495]

>>9196468
$250 dolllarydoos

[Anonymous No.9196498]

>>9196492
Well you're also the guy who didn't have a microwave until he found one from the dump.
>i spend 20 euros for my high end trintron
And what that might be, or are just larping again?

[Anonymous No.9196504]

>>9196461
I'm not going to do that jews $900 I asked what's a reasonable price so I can haggle.

[Anonymous No.9196505]

Fuck it I'm offering then 250 if they don't take it then oh well.

[Anonymous No.9196507]

>>9196504
>>9196505
Do you have any idea what the condition of the monitor is? Hours? Does it have a ghosting issue, like so many other F520's?
If it's under 10-15k, doesn't have issues, I'd say $300 is the absolute max I'd be able to justify.

[Anonymous No.9196516]

>>9196507
No I'll have to see if I even make contact with (((them))) they listed with rando numbers like a sperg basically just mashed 2791or some bs or they're serious. I'll go as low as I can I always have multiple accs for haggling

[Anonymous No.9196520]

>>9196498
Gdm-5402, 21' 120khz.
Very near the F520 in terms of specs, only F500R and maybe one or two other should be better.

[Anonymous No.9196527]

>>9196504
Id pay no more then a hundred euros, however since your in the usa 400$ sadly

[Anonymous No.9196531]

>>9196334
>50hz only
>composite only
Not worth it mate

[Anonymous No.9196536]

>>9196405
I seriously hope you didn’t do this

[Anonymous No.9196540]

>>9196531
>50hz only
Why would this be an issue? I'm assuming light gun stuff?

[Anonymous No.9196543]

>>9196536
I did and it was worth it.
Black levels are the same in a dark room, but look at the added beightness just from removing that film, atleast 30% brighter without more wear on the tube

[Anonymous No.9196546]

>>9196516
Good luck, my monitor was listed for 500€ originally or something.
I took a slightly different strategy, I didn't contact them until a couple weeks had passed and they started to slash the price on the listing. This person seemed to want to get rid of the monitor sooner than later, and I was near. Things ended up really working to my favor.

>>9196520
Not the ranfag then I presume? Pictures.
>Very near the F520 in terms of specs, only F500R and maybe one or two other should be better.
No there's quite a long list of 130khz CR1 Trinitrons. Everything from Dell P1130 to GDM-C520K is better than your Dell P1110 rebadge. And then there's a long list of monitors sporting Mitsubishi and Hitachi tubes that also are better.
Though I have to say, the P1110 is also by far my favorite when it comes to design.

>>9196536
At least all of his monitors are utter garbage.

[Anonymous No.9196553]

>>9196546
they are selling local and I live in a town full of tards, they're gonna have to bend the knee to me.

[Anonymous No.9196561]

>>9196531
>>9196540
50hz refers to the power supply, not the refresh rate. All my crts say 50hz on the back and can display 60hz. For an older monitor though, you'd want to check it can display 60hz if you want to play NTSC games.

[Anonymous No.9196563]

>>9196546
C520k and P1130 are basically F520s, especially the C520k is literally an F520 variant.
But yeah mitsubishi and hitachi are engame, agreed

[Anonymous No.9196565]

>>9196561
Unfortunately I can find literally 0 documentation on this model besides a reddit post about the same listing. I'm meeting the guy tomorrow anyhow.

[Anonymous No.9196576]

>>9196563
>C520k and P1130 are basically F520s, especially the C520k is literally an F520 variant.
No, the C520K is closer to P1130 than the F520, as far as I can tell. The F520 is the only special one, sporting the .22mm tube and the unique but problematic A2-video board. There's probably some more differences than that, for example what determines what CR1 monitors support DCNV?

[Anonymous No.9196583]

>>9196576
Dunno if I ever get my hands on more high end GDMs Ill tell you which have which options enabled.
But dynamic convergance is probably on more monitors then just the F520

[Anonymous No.9196585]

>>9196565
I'd imagine for a professional monitor, it would display 60hz. $250 for composite only is steep. Pictures of similar models look nice tho. Let us know how it goes.

[Anonymous No.9196590]

>>9196583
DCNV is certainly on couple other ones, but none are CR1 chassis. As far as I know, F520 is the only one out of the CR1s that have it.
I could be wrong though. Please correct me if anyone knows better.

[Anonymous No.9196592]

>>9196585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0jTu7tHUpA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWooM_DnSCQ

Some vids on what appear to be successor models.

[Anonymous No.9196601]

>>9196592
That colour scheme on those is gorgeous with the orange power button. This one isn't quite as handsome sadly, still not bad. Thanks for the find on the vids.

[Anonymous No.9196613]

>>9196601
idk, he looks p.cute to me.

[Anonymous No.9196620]

>>9196561
The power boards changed as time went on
This was the reason PAL60 became a thing, 15khz didn’t do that originally and it was stated by putting 50-60khz on the sticker
Unless you can show me a set that plays them fine while also saying only 50hz

[Anonymous No.9196641]

>>9196620
The 50hz on the back is only referring to the frequency of the power supply it can accept, which is 50hz in pal regions. It has nothing to do with the refresh rate.

[Anonymous No.9196648]

>>9196641

[Anonymous No.9196841]

>>9196565
Even with RGB I wouldn't buy an 9 incher, they're shit for playing games.
Especially for $250

[Anonymous No.9196864]

>>9196592
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWooM_DnSCQ
>monitor will only handle PAL
Good chance this one won't do NTSC either. I'd pass on it.

[Anonymous No.9197221]

>>9191197
>>9192000
I've got it, it's dirty as shit but the tube seems good and bright.
Only real problem is a couple of small scratches on the glass that sadly are pretty noticeable.

[Anonymous No.9197289]

>>9197221
Never use superbright mode, it will decrease the lifetime by alot.
The scratches on it might be just in the anti glare coating, you can rub that off if you willing to invest a few dozen hours of scrubbing with wet paper towels

[Anonymous No.9197305]

>>9197289
>The scratches on it might be just in the anti glare coating
Not a chance unless it's an anti-glare film layer like on some Trinitrons.

[Anonymous No.9197351]

>>9197305
Its possible, that monitor has really thick anti glare for some reason

[Anonymous No.9197634]

Picked up this big guy yesterday. Toshiba CZ32T31. Never had anything with S-Video before so it was quite the treat.

[Anonymous No.9197639]

>>9197634
No remote though so I haven't been able to fine-tune the options yet

[Anonymous No.9197759]

>>9194876
No pics yet but does anyone know the best way to calibrate this CRT color? I messed with the brightness and contrast options on the OSD to the best I can but I just can't get pure blacks or whites without completely blowing out the contrast and even then it's not good as should be

[Anonymous No.9197789]

>>9197759
Put brightness to where blacks are truly black on a completely blank screen, set contrast to about 70% for a healthy tube, 90% for a worn one

[Anonymous No.9197903]

>>9197759
The tube is very worn, these tubes can never get good contrast and when you increase contrast the picture will become extremely blurry. On to the next CRT, sell this one to some clueless retrofag.

[Anonymous No.9198053]

there's a p780 for sale for 50 buckaroos on fb marketplace
/marketplace/item/1194916358030854/
and another one for 150
/marketplace/item/828869398479298/

these are in Pennsylvania btw

[Anonymous No.9198143]

>>9197903
doesnt look worn to me
>these tubes can never get good brightness
almost no crt and especially not used monitors can

[Anonymous No.9198160]

>>9197759
>blowing out the contrast
What do you mean by this?

[Anonymous No.9198285]

>>9197789
I'll test it out tonight anon
>>9198160
Turn it up so much that all colors are too strong, like aqua blue colors showing as a navy blue

[Anonymous No.9198327]

>>9198285
>Turn it up so much that all colors are too strong, like aqua blue colors showing as a navy blue
Ah, I think you're experiencing the high gamma of low brightness. Assuming you've set it properly, to the highest setting where your blacks do not glow, there's not much you can do about it on the display itself. This should be corrected with source-side gamma LUTs, but you really need a colorimeter to do it properly.

[Anonymous No.9198389]

>>9184160
Do all trinitrons have RCA? I just bought a KV-9300 and dont know what I'm looking for

[Anonymous No.9198409]

>>9197789
What?
I have mine set at like 50% contrast
70 and 90 seem way too strong

[Anonymous No.9198420]

>>9198409
TV I assume?
Monitors and TVs are not the same
if monitor then you are very lucky

[Anonymous No.9198434]

>>9198420
Yeah that was silly of me, I didn’t notice you were talking about monitors

[Anonymous No.9198460]

>>9184207
>RGB modding a trinitron
tell me more anon

[Anonymous No.9198465]

>>9198460
https://crtdatabase.com/
Not that anon but you’ll find some guides here

[Anonymous No.9198501]

>>9198389
Photo for reference

[Anonymous No.9198514]

>>9198501
Doh!

Its the RCA Compact RF Modulator

[Anonymous No.9198591]

>>9195031
Are you sure you're pressing the right buttons? For the error table/uptime it should go like pic related. The TV should turn on with the table already visible.
For the regular service menu, replace VOL- with VOL+ in that sequence. You'll get some green text on the screen (TT), press MENU to get into the service menu.

[Anonymous No.9198610]

>>9198143
Used CRTs can still look good provided they werent abused to hell.
In my experience, super worn CRTs are actually uncommon, but it does suck when you luck out and get one. Funnily enough, all the super worn TVs I got had black soot inside. Used TVs, but not as much, only had a fine layer of dust and still looked good.

[Anonymous No.9199141]

>>9198460
What other anon said, and I would also recommend reading that one shmups forum to get the basic idea of what you're doing.
The main idea is to introduce the RGB signal somewhere on the circuit between the On-screen display chip and the jungle chip. You also need to keep in mind the peak-to-peak voltage that gets to the pins on jungle chip and adjust it accordingly with resistors.
Blanking is usually 5v and you get it either from your RGB input, or directly on your tv circuit board, but in this case you would need to install a switch.
Sync line is connected either to composite or s-video luma input.
Iny case the TV (KV-G21M1) had a spot for the missing teletext chip, so the mod was comparably simple: RGB and blanking goes into the teletext slot, and sync - to the composite video input.

[Anonymous No.9199338]

>>9198591
Yea, I'm doing it correctly. The TV turns on, but no table shows up. Service menu works fine, though.

[Anonymous No.9199662]

I'm interested to see what a Game Boy game (played through Super Game Boy) looks like in a black-and-white-only TV.
I would call it Game Boy Noir.

[Anonymous No.9199683]

>>9199662
Gameboys were never black and white, why not just play with the black and white colours on SGB if you want it that way

[Anonymous No.9199705]

>>9199683
Black and white as colors through composite on a color tube is not the same as monochrome CRT.

[Anonymous No.9199710]

>>9199705
>through composite
Then don’t do composite?

[Anonymous No.9199735]

why aren't gb's greyscale? because of the original green display? the data itself are greyscale hex values

[Anonymous No.9200072]

My autism is getting angry with me because I think 99% of the time 4th gen and below games look much better with component or RGB signals, but then you get the occasional bullshit dithering like this that doesnt look right without a composite signal.

I wish there was some way to just increase blending for these specific instances but I know that's not realistic.

[Anonymous No.9200075]

>>9199735
>greyscale hex values

[Anonymous No.9200086]

>>9200072
Play everything via RGB, don't give a fuck about Sonic. There, I just fixed your problem.

[Anonymous No.9200101]

>>9200086
Its not just Sonic theres other games that use dithering like that especially on Genesis

[Anonymous No.9200106]

>>9200072
Get a scart switch with extra composite out and connect both outputs to tv, switch to composite whenever your autism activates.

[Anonymous No.9200141]

>>9200106
Won't work if he's using cables with sync on luma or csync.

[Anonymous No.9200146]

>>9200141
That's what you get for getting "boutique" autism cables. All the normie cables got composite where composite should go.

[Anonymous No.9200184]

>>9200106
Im using component not RGB

[Anonymous No.9200187]

>>9200184
Then you're sol I guess, the only solutions are to keep 2 sets of cables for every console on hand or emulate

[Anonymous No.9200193]

>>9200072
Play everything via composite, don't give a fuck about sharpness. There, I just fixed your problem.

[Anonymous No.9200317]

>>9200193
>>9200086

[Anonymous No.9200445]

>>9197789
Tried my best here and it's kinda close but not true black as they should be. Darks are kinda a mix of these two photos leaning on the darker one

[Anonymous No.9200449]

>>9200445
And this one, not sure why last photo came out sideways

[Anonymous No.9200453]

>>9200449
>>9200445
And this one

[Anonymous No.9200465]

>>9200184
Another victory for scartchads

[Anonymous No.9200565]

Guess what input this is

[Anonymous No.9200573]

[Anonymous No.9200582]

S-Video

[Anonymous No.9200708]

Alright, from Genesis Plus GX on a Wii,

First composite out

[Anonymous No.9200718]

And this is component out, on a Tosbiba consumer CRT

Honestly while composite out obviously looks better for this specific effect I dont think it warrants using composite in general. I do think the original Genesis had worse composite out which made this effect look better, but even with component you can see some transparency unless you zoom in, and im not very close to my screen.

[Anonymous No.9200719]

>>9200708
why are there so many pictures of Sonic posing with waterfalls?

[Anonymous No.9200720]

>>9200582
Its composite, I think it looks quite good for being rca

[Anonymous No.9200724]

>>9200718
Forgot image!

[Anonymous No.9200732]

>>9200719
Its the most prominent example of dithering on Genesis and dithering is the main argument to use composite output over cleaner video signals like s video, component or RGB.

I'll upload a Silent Hill comparison later because that game is the only game I've played that does genuinely look better with composite video the entire game.

[Anonymous No.9200768]

>>9200708
>>9200718
>>9200724
The Sonic waterfall rainbowing effect everybody is always talking about is not present in your composite photo at all. Everything just looks darker and more smeared than in the component pic.
That particular effect is a quirk of MD's extremely shit composite output and you won't replicate it that way. So there's zero reason to use composite if you can use component with your Wii.
As for the difference in overall picture brightness, maybe your TV has separate settings for those inputs and the contrast is lower on the composite in?
I hate the naming convention for picture settings in TVs BTW, where "contrast" is in fact the maximum brightness and "brightness" is the black level. It's funny that only in 2022 a major manufacturer decided to change those names to the proper ones after all these years (LG with the C2 OLED).

[Anonymous No.9200801]

>>9200768
I just checked and the colors aren't set differently. I think it's my camera making the color blending look weird. I don't have a great way to take these pictures unfortunately, the brightness doesn't appear different except for the photos.

I'm not just talking about the colors by the way, I think that was an unintended side effect since any shitty output will do that with dithering (it happened with my Raspberry Pi and is the reason I stopped using it with my CRT). Moreso the more you degrade the image quality the waterfall will appear more solid instead of as verical lines, while still being transparent. If you zoom in on the component image you can see the individual lines of the waterfall, not as much on composite.

Anyways, here's Silent Hill, running on real hardware this time. First composite, you can see how the colors look smooth and natural.

[Anonymous No.9200812]

>>9200801
Now S-video (highest an unmodded PSX can output).

It looks worse like this as you can clearly see the dithering effect causing a mismatched checkerboard color pattern. While other PSX games have this I don't think any have it to disagree where there is a constant dithering effect applied fullscreen for nearly the entire game. There might be a few others but so far this is the only game I've found where composite just looks better to me due to the dithering.

[Anonymous No.9200850]

>>9200768
I'm not sure people actually care about rainbowing and more about the waterfall actually looking transparent.
Rainbowing only makes the intended effect look worse

[Anonymous No.9200857]

>>9200812
>S-video (highest an unmodded PSX can output)
The fuck
Mine outputs rgb out of the box

[Anonymous No.9200881]

>>9200812
>S-video (highest an unmodded PSX can output).
Nigger what the fuck you talking about?

[Anonymous No.9200896]

>>9200801
Your photo itself is very blurry, I'm sure it helps blend that dithering in some degree.

[Anonymous No.9200917]

>>9200768
retard

[Anonymous No.9200938]

>>9200857
>>9200881
Sorry i meant highest my TV can take, im murrican

[Anonymous No.9200953]

>>9200184
RGB is component chucklefuck. Guessing you mean YPbPr aka "Component". There's absolutely nothing preventing you from using that and composite as anon suggested. Aside from retardation.

[Anonymous No.9200956]

>>9200953
What a pedantic faggot you are.

[Anonymous No.9201028]

>>9200953
>There's absolutely nothing preventing you from using that and composite as anon suggested
How? I suggested that scheme because scart contains composite for sync and a lot of scart switches break it out, to get composite out together with ypbpr you'll need a custom cable and even then old consoles don't output ypbpr at all

[Anonymous No.9201187]

>>9200812
Pretty much every PS1 game has screen wide dithering
You can always play them on PS2 to disable the dithering

[Anonymous No.9201197]

>>9201028
You do know that the yellow plug can be used in the green
Maybe you can use a splitter

[Anonymous No.9201425]

>>9201187
Thats technically partially emulated though right?

[Anonymous No.9201432]

>>9201425
Correct. PS2s don't have PSX GPUs in them, so graphics processing is emulated.

[Anonymous No.9201459]

>>9201187
Silent Hill has it the most prominently of all of them. For reference this is what it looks like without dithering. Awful color banding everywhere. The only way it can look good without dithering is on an emulator with 32 bit color depth enabled. Other psx games dont have it to this extent.

[Anonymous No.9201572]

>>9184160
not gonna lie lads, this is my first time lurking in here ands this thread is comfy as fuck!
cheers!

[Anonymous No.9201594]

>>9201572
cute dog

[Anonymous No.9201618]

>>9200573
Need moar morrigan

[Anonymous No.9201647]

>>9184548
DeOxit is very good stuff. It's the same as contact cleaner and almost the same as WD40, but it works like magic.
Nobody wants to believe but WD40 really will work too.

[Anonymous No.9201730]

>>9200938
You can get one of those HD Retrovision cables for Component YPbPr if you have a later CRT.
I have a later CRT and it takes Component.

[Anonymous No.9201734]

>>9201730
True, unfortunately it's out of stock right now but I probably will when it's back in. Very worth for the 2D games.

[Anonymous No.9201842]

>>9201730
>>9201734
You can always use an RGB cable and a transcoder, same result.

[Anonymous No.9201891]

>>9201572
What is going on here

[Anonymous No.9202125]

>>9201197
That makes even less sense, looks like you don't understand the proposed setup.

[Anonymous No.9202126]

>>9191987
did he died?

[Anonymous No.9202162]

>>9202125
Not really

[Anonymous No.9202169]

>>9202162
I'm gonna ignore using Y plug for video being a really bad idea for now, explain exactly how are you gonna use it to seamlessly switch between component and composite on the same tv.

[Anonymous No.9202179]

Reichsgraf

[Anonymous No.9202181]

>>9202179
fuck, why is it flipped?

[Anonymous No.9202186]

>>9202169
He wants it on the same console dude, the console only has one plug in it, there will never be anything seamless about it
This way he can have them both plugged in and he only has switch the plug in the console
a splitters only a bad idea if you are simultaneously running multiple consoles at once

[Anonymous No.9202193]

>>9202186
>the console only has one plug in it
Yea, that's why I was proposing scart until you butted in with retarded shit about ypbpr being the same when it isn't in this scenario.

Btw he still can do scart switch setup, just add scart to ypbpr transcoder at the end.

[Anonymous No.9202219]

>>9202193
I wasn’t that anon saying YpPbrR is the same
I was saying an alternative setup because he didn’t have SCART and the transcoder won’t work for composite

[Anonymous No.9202221]

>>9202219
>transcoder won’t work for composite
It doesn't have to, you just plug composite in composite port

[Anonymous No.9202223]

>>9201618
me too

[Anonymous No.9202319]

90's magnavox set that only has RF in

[Anonymous No.9202332]

>>9202319
cute

[Anonymous No.9202340]

sharp picture even over RF. only problem is it has this color bleed. it might just be my SNES, since it's sort of like this on other sets but the effect seemed to still be there on a VCR. hard to tell. most noticable in the vertical green lines in pic related. there's no color bleed on the OSD, which means it isn't the tube. it would seem to be a good candidate for an RGB mod, the jungle chip in it has pins for the OSD in, the only problem is there's a sticker on the inside which seems to be saying that it's a hot chassis set, which would make modding impossible. is there a safe way to tell if the part of the chassis surrounding the jungle chip is live or not? also could some coil or pot inside be adjusted to remove the bleed from RF? i don't have a schematic

[Anonymous No.9202361]

>>9201647
>WD40
Don't even jokingly suggest clogging these kind of electronics with the residue from that.
I also had tried CRC-branded contact clearer, which did help it a little, but didn't fix the issue entirely. The monitor also quickly degraded back.
The Deoxit Gold specifically is a liquid semiconductor I believe, not just a clearer. Either way, it actually fixed the issue entirely when nothing else could.

[Anonymous No.9202384]

>>9202361
i use wd-40 brand contact cleaner

[Anonymous No.9202392]

>>9202384
Ah right yea I guess they do have actual contact cleaners too

[Anonymous No.9202471]

>>9202361
Its not consuctive dint worry

[Anonymous No.9202872]

soft or sharp?

[Anonymous No.9203202]

I can get this tv for free. Can someone help me identify it? Is it worth it?

[Anonymous No.9203217]

>>9203202
I could be wrong here but here but it looks like an LG flatron, max res is MAYBE 480i/60, but I dont know probably not

[Anonymous No.9203235]

>>9203202
If you need a tv for your consoles then grab it, if you already have one then check if this got better inputs, otherwise why bother.

[Anonymous No.9203294]

>>9203217
I think you're right. Do you think LG flatrons are good tvs?
>>9203235
If I'm not mistaken this tv has a component input. I read you can connect a modern pc to a crt with a HDMI to YPbPR adapter. Do you think it's worth if for this use case?

[Anonymous No.9203313]

>>9203294
its a TV they are all pretty much the same, so yes if it has component its worth it

[Anonymous No.9203478]

>>9192137
>>9192246
I have a update date for you guys. So sadly I was for various reason, not able to acquire the 35" Sony Trinitron but good news is that I seem to have found a AV-32D305 for 5 dollars that's a lot closer to where I live.

[Anonymous No.9203698]

>>9203478
Sounds like a pretty sweet deal

[Anonymous No.9203969]

>>9184160
Is this a good tv for playing stuff in N64 and PS2 games?
>KV-21SE43C/7 Sony trinitron 21"
It's around 22 bucks

[Anonymous No.9204038]

>>9203969
yes you fool

[Anonymous No.9204058]

What would it cost to build new tubes and electron guns so new CRT's can be made again? The chassis can already be built by anyone with the knowledge using off the shelf parts pretty cheaply. Maybe the flyback transformer would be a little more difficult since it needs to be encased in custom molded plastic, but it's still within the realm of affordability for someone to do it. But could actual tubes be manufactured without some enormous and prohibitive amount of investment?

[Anonymous No.9204159]

>>9203969
Any Trinitron will be great. If youre playing 6th gen I'd recommend trying to get one with component input because some 6th gen games look pretty rough with composite, but anything earlier it honestly doesnt matter very much.

[Anonymous No.9204179]

>>9204058
Hard to say but I imagine the manufacturing cost would be very high. Likely tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars per monitor.

[Anonymous No.9204182]

>>9202126
Yes.
::::-(

[Anonymous No.9204194]

>>9204058
>What would it cost to build new tubes and electron guns so new CRT's can be made again?
200 million

[Anonymous No.9204210]

>>9202361
See, you don't want to believe.
There was a guy online who sprayed regular WD40 in the volume knob of his radio every single day for over ten years. It was purely to prove that it works and won't hurt anything because people didn't believe him.
Also Deoxit gold is for gold plated surfaces, all you need is the regular one anyway. Or WD40.

[Anonymous No.9204215]

What's the best option for converting component to VGA for use with PC monitor CRTs? As far as I can tell the only options are to make your own cable which doesn't support progressive modes or track down a discontinued adapter which seems to be out of stock everywhere.

[Anonymous No.9204284]

>>9204215
I don’t know if you can even do that with just a cable
I would think you’d need some sort of box which changes 15khz to 31khz

[Anonymous No.9204298]

>>9204215
Everything that outputs component also outputs RGB. It's much easier to hook that up to a PC monitor. For 15kHz you'd need a line doubler though. For 480p, just something to split the sync signal into separate HSYNC and VSYNC.

[Anonymous No.9204462]

hope I die from 50k volts

[Anonymous No.9204594]

>>9200453
Wait a second, I recognize that OSD! Does you AccuSync use a Flatron tube?

[Anonymous No.9205046]

Are there any good media players that output via SCART? My PVMs been gathering dust and I'd love to watch some old anime and cartoons on it.

[Anonymous No.9205048]

Tube tierlist:
SS tier:
Curved Diamondtron, SB Diamondtron
S tier:
NF Diamondtron, Hitachi shadow masks
A tier:
LG/Phillips/Samsung curved tubes, Sony Trinitron
B tier: Flat shadowmasks, Panasonic big tube TVs
C tier:
Daewoo and other cheap TVs

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.9205073]

>>9205048
Retarded cope made by ranfag

[Anonymous No.9205083]

>>9205073
You keep using that word I dont think you understand what it means

[Anonymous No.9205114]

I wish I could get my NECs big and small sister aswell

[Anonymous No.9205116]

>>9205083
>>9205114
Stop shitting up /v/r and go back to your containment thread >>>/g/88270434

[Anonymous No.9205121]

>>9205116
Fuck off drama stirrer im gonna post wherever and whatever I want and if you dont like it you can go to wapchan or reddit or some other aids site

[Anonymous No.9205127]

>>9205121
>or reddit
said the redditor.

[Anonymous No.9205130]

>>9205121
t. /r/smalldickgirls poster

[Anonymous No.9205136]

>>9205127
>>9205130
Reddit used to be usable on small subreddits

[Anonymous No.9205138]

>>9205136
4chan used to be usable too before you started posting

[Anonymous No.9205152]

>>9205138
Hating an anon for posting on topic pictures...
Really not the smartest thing in my opinion newfag

[Anonymous No.9205168]

>>9205152
You'll never fit in.

[Anonymous No.9205175]

>>9205168
offcourse I wont fit in with you I actually post pictures, have fun arguing and im not constantly crying about what others are posting.

[Anonymous No.9205182]

Very impressive quite nice, lets see Paul Allens phosphor close up shot

[Anonymous No.9205256]

Bro I have been trying for months to get my computer to work with my crt tv from:
Super resolution of 2560x240p and getting many different types of ypbpr adapters none of it works

[Anonymous No.9205305]

>>9205046
Do you have a Xbox 360?

[Anonymous No.9205307]

>>9204058
to be real this honestly should not be a concern for anyone. I get that knowing all of the CRTs will go eventually is sad but considering there's still working TV sets from the 1940s, we will all be dead and buried in the ground long before all of the CRTs die. At worst they'll just start being really expensive.

[Anonymous No.9205309]

>>9205046
a hacked wii will do it, but the players are kind of picky about the video files, can't have certain codecs or too high of resolution. a computer might be the better choice with a vga to bnc cable with custom resolution settings, but i can't speak to if that'll work

[Anonymous No.9205312]

>>9205309
I would use a PS2 instead hacked or otherwise, I remember a lot of people would report that their Wii disc laser would burn out quickly when playing DVDs.

it could have all just been confirmation bias since the lasers on those things burn out pretty easily but better safe than sorry.

[Anonymous No.9205314]

>>9205307
By the time all CRTs die, you will be able to perfectly replicate the look of them on modern displays anyway.

[Anonymous No.9205334]

>>9205307
i figure by the time crts really become unobtanium we'll have developed a superior display

[Anonymous No.9205340]

>>9205314
It hasn't happened yet so why would you assume that? You can only emulate the progressive lines as of now and they all look awful it's also a niche as there's not a huge market for monitor/tv manufacturers to include hardware meant to replicate all the limitations a crt has

[Anonymous No.9205347]

>>9205314
almost definitely yes but you already know people will say it's "not authentic" anyways, and by that time there'll be no way to know for sure.

>>9205334
The technology of a CRT will never be replicated again, the manufacturing cost is just far too expensive compared to LCD screens and always will be. Maybe this isn't a popular opinion to say in /crt/ but I think current day LCDs (like since 2019 or so) are superior to CRTs in every single way other than being able to display 240p the way retro games intended by painting scanlines. Input lag has been cut way down and with OLED and HDR there's not really an argument for CRT picture quality being better anymore. I fully admit I mostly like them for the nostalgia factor.

I've heard that on OLED monitors CRT filters come really close to looking authentic, but I don't own one so I can't say for sure.

[Anonymous No.9205365]

>>9205334
>>9205314
I doubt that, crt is simply perfect in every way except being slim which is what killed it.
What display tech could beat a crt?
microLED rolling scan?
Maybe but only at the native res and thats still a pipe dream aswell.
Remaking crts is simpler and cheaper then developing a magic display that can beat them

[Anonymous No.9205374]

>>9205347
>making crts will cost millions of dollars
>meanwhile you can make a crt in a wine bottle at home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfKnrEG1ZTY

[Anonymous No.9205375]

>>9205365
>Remaking crts is simpler and cheaper then developing a magic display that can beat them
good luck with that pal.

[Anonymous No.9205382]

>>9205365
completely delusional post

[Anonymous No.9205387]

>>9205382
Must be ranfag's

[Anonymous No.9205396]

>>9205375
>>9205382
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfKnrEG1ZTY

[Anonymous No.9205403]

>>9205387
wow that guy really lives in your head rent free huh

[Anonymous No.9205405]

>>9205403
Sounds like I was right

[Anonymous No.9205407]

>>9205396
>>9205374
okay you posted this twice what are you trying to prove? are you implying that you seriously expect the same type of image quality and color you would get from a consumer CRT in the 2000s from that? Do you think that would be sustainable to manufacture and sell long term? Do you think that would last for more than a few years being used as an actual display?

Like you're just blowing my mind, some science experiment showing it's technically possible to push cathode rays through any glass tube (which should be obvious) doesn't equate to them being easy to manufacture.

>>9205405
>>9205387
please don't shit up the thread by dramafagging again, if he's here he's not spamming finally so we don't need people intentionally baiting him out.

[Anonymous No.9205413]

>>9205396
Whoa, a youtube science experiment???? Shit, I guess professionally made, mass-produced CRT monitors are just around the corner. Get fucking real.

[Anonymous No.9205425]

>>9205407
He's a brainlet

>>9205396
>>9205374
Literally a 5 year old video from an 11 year old experiment you're making a single low quality tube you aren't going to be making a crt TELEVISION with this.

[Anonymous No.9205430]

>>9205407
They aren't that hard to manufacture, in the 50s and 60s alot of shops refurbed crts which is still one even today and involves breaking the vacuum and recreating it.
The hard part comes just from making the glass and it would only take maybe ten or twenty thousand units to make the production profitable again if you sold them at a thousand dollars each.
Offcourse right now that would be stupid because there are still enough old ones around, but in a few decades the demand might be large enough for it to work out

[Anonymous No.9205435]

>>9205407
His posting is worthless spam regardless of frequency, and he is rightfully being called out.

[Anonymous No.9205445]

>>9205425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWbvqDzr2Bc
This one is capable of making a concentrated dot.
Guess what that means?
With proper deflection it could produce an image, which is very impressive for something made at home, if even a small company had some funding im positive they could turn out 60s color roundies in no time
>>9205435
If discussing the possibility of crts being made again is spam to you your in the wrong thread buddy

[Anonymous No.9205448]

>>9205430
>>9205445
It's never happening in a million years, and if by some crazy miracle it did, they would be stupidly expensive, and you wouldn't get one. Get over it.

[Anonymous No.9205453]

>>9205445
Calling your usual baseless delusions "discussion" is quite stretching it.

[Anonymous No.9205452]

>>9205430
>but in a few decades the demand might be large enough for it to work out
You underestimate how small the demand is. I think the only two groups of people who care about CRTs for personal use are retro gamers and competitive Melee players (who are also retro gamers technically). It's not realistic to think the demand will ever be high enough to justify manufacture.

Secondly you need to understand how economies of scale works, CRTs were only ever as cheap as they were in the 2000s because the manufacturing process was perfected. All of those factories have since either been dismantled or had their parts replaced to manufacture LCDs.

So yes its technically possible somebody will manufacture them on a small scale but there's a very good reason it hasn't happened yet. I don't think there will EVER be a point where the demand justifies the cost of manufacture. You'd likely have to charge tens of thousands of dollars per TV manufacturing on a small scale, and at that point I think we'd all just be using shaders, not to mention OLED technology is going to be much better at that point, which with shaders can replicate the look of a CRT a lot better.

[Anonymous No.9205458]

>>9205452
also I want to mention it's a small subset of retro gamers. Go to /r/retrogaming and you'll see how many people there are taking terrible pictures of their LCD TVs running emulated games off their raspberry pi or NES classic.

[Anonymous No.9205463]

>>9205448
It would be expensive but not unobtanium, if the price can be kept around 1000 euros id purchase a new crt, especially if its a monitor.
>>9205452
I think the demand will increase over time, but its a pipe dream for now.
I dont think anyone will switch to crt again and its such a shame because all of the issues modern monitors have didnt exist with crts and the issues that crts had were solved by the time they went out of productuion.
I dont just think they are good for retro gaming, I think crts could compete with LCD and OLED for modern applications if the benefits were known more widely but like thats ever going to happen

[Anonymous No.9205523]

>>9205463
Every fucking thread

[Anonymous No.9205537]

>>9205463
>I think crts could compete with LCD and OLED for modern applications if the benefits were known more widely
Absolutely not. Obviously we all love CRTs, but let's be real - they're kinda shitty. Bulky, heavy, power-hungry boxes that are prone to geometry/purity issues. The general public will never choose that over sleek, modern flat panel displays, especially considering they already didn't in the 2000s. Motion clarity is the one thing CRTs still do best, and very *very* few people would give enough fucks about that to buy one over a flat panel.

[Anonymous No.9205571]

>>9205537
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/88134816/
This is the kind of garbage OPs he posts on /g/. He is completely delusional about CRTs, he doesn't understand anything about them.

[Anonymous No.9205618]

>>9205537
even then flat panels will eventually outdo CRTs in motion clarity, it's easy to forget how new of a technology LCD panels are compared to CRTs. My family didn't have our first flat panel until 2010 and we were relatively well off. Meanwhile CRTs had been around since the 1940s.

[Anonymous No.9205712]

i didnt believe ranfag was even a real thing, i thought it was just the usual autists getting angry about a shitposter or two
but i genuinely cannot read the latest 20 or so posts, this is so confusing jesus dude go somewhere else you're not wanted here

[Anonymous No.9205725]

>>9205340
He's saying it's gonna take such long time for modern displays to be that good that by then all CRTs will be dead (100+ years minumum).

[Anonymous No.9205782]

does anyone know if it's possible to imitate one of those "dealer service tool" remotes with an universal one or any app? apparently I need one to enter the service menu on my philips tv and center the image since for some reason playing through rgb makes it off centered.

[Anonymous No.9205826]

>>9205463
just shut the fuck up. literally no one likes you or your retarded posts

[Anonymous No.9205892]

>>9194280
I got mine brand new in box from ebay two years ago. Only for around $100.
>>9184937
No lag that i noticed. And its the brand innovation. It does s-video/composite too. The box outputs 3 things.

[Anonymous No.9205896]

>>9205892
nice cannibalized dreamcast you got there. Project about done?

[Anonymous No.9205925]

>>9205537
I fully agree with you here but but the bulky heavy and power hungry aspects don't make the image quality worse, its a shame that most people would choose convenience over quality

[Anonymous No.9205957]

>>9205712
try reading more slowly maybe?

[Anonymous No.9206049]

>>9204594
Not sure, how would I find out?

[Anonymous No.9206064]

>>9204210
Are you absolutely certain this is a good idea?

>Also Deoxit gold is for gold plated surfaces,
Caig claims it's good for "gold and other precious metals". It's more general than gold-only.
I did purchase the normal one too, if this monitor returns to its ghosting state I'll try it first.

>>9202471
Nobody asked you, ranfag. Conductivity is exactly what I need for this monitor.

>>9205892
>>9194280
I had the 9500 as a kid, alongside a Dell P991.
Really remember the ugly ass side-speakers. And the interfierence noises it took from my Nokia 3310. Do modern speakers/phones even do that anymore?

[Anonymous No.9206103]

>>9206064
stop calling me that

[Anonymous No.9206121]

>>9206064
Know whats funny?
An integrated VGA cable is the best thing for quality and this issue would not occur if the F520 had a pre attached cable

[Anonymous No.9206134]

>>9205256
What is it that doesn’t work?

[Anonymous No.9206143]

>>9206134
I don't have an image displaying on the CRT TV it's just blank and I've tested the CRT with a raspberry pi and it works for 240/480 but the pi isn't able to handle shit like the Saturn/PS2 or even N64 for that matter so that's why I'm trying to get my PC to work with the CRT TV

[Anonymous No.9206159]

>>9206143
You kinda need a VGA to RGB SCART or whatever adapter.
If your set doesnt support RGB youd need a transcoder aswell

[Anonymous No.9206167]

>>9206121
The only funny thing here is how fucking retarded you actually are.
Do you see anything related to color in these connectors? No? Don't talk.
You have absolutely no knowledge about this monitor or its issues, yet you keep posting your utterly counter-productive garbage. I have explained many times exactly why the issue is not anything to do with the actual path of the video signal at all. I even own TWO (2) monitors that exhibit clear overshoot WITH pre-attached cables, and even this I've told you before.
You're the most severe case of eternal dunning-kruger I've ever seen in my life.

[Anonymous No.9206176]

>>9206143
https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/comments/awqolc/comment/ewg1u4t/ Have you seen this? Which transcoder are you using? Only specific ones work and it’s incredibly hard to tell which ones do without testing

[Anonymous No.9206186]

>>9206167
You can only learn from being corrected, however explain how ghosting could be caused from something else other then the signal path.
I really dont understand that

[Anonymous No.9206193]

>>9206167
seeing your posts BTFOing retards cracks me up every time.

[Anonymous No.9206235]

>>9206193
He didnt btfo nothing, offcourse I havent read the service manual for a monitor I dont own.
Im not an electrical engineer either its just my hobby and I didnt have to fix too many issues yet.

[Anonymous No.9206241]

>>9206235
so much cope in one post

[Anonymous No.9206252]

>>9206241
what cope?
Touhoufag is better at fixing stuff then me?
Yeah probably

[Anonymous No.9206254]

>>9206186
>You can only learn from being corrected
You keep being corrected every fucking post you make, but always dismiss everyone as a troll or hater.
You know nothing, and you're too retarded to learn anything, but think you are qualified to say everything.
>however explain how ghosting could be caused from something else other then the signal path.
Ground or power.
One hypothesis I had was those ferrites in the ground paths. They seem to be an attempt at AGND-DGND separation, which is bit of a contreversial design pattern in electronics. Ferrites can cause the ground to float during high frequency loads, and in general resonate in weird ways. Further evidence for this was that the non-problematic A1 boards do not have these ferrites.
While this wasn't actually the cause, it's a good example of what kinds of things can cause problems far from the actual video signal.
Power related issues can be FAR simpler - poor regulation is a very common cause of overshoot.

>>9206235
>>9206252
Just stop please, I don't like cringe

[Anonymous No.9206282]

>>9206254
thats interesting, I had my issues with grounding when I was soldering the VGA cable aswell.
I know that the power supply can mess with the image alot but I havent seen ghosting as a result of poor regulation yet, the medion has a perfectly fine static image performance despite having lots of image shrinking when the amount of white onscreen changes.

[Anonymous No.9206287]

(Sorry for bad quality of picture) but I got these 13" sets from my uncle for free. The one in use is brand name "SuperSonic" but guts appear to be made by Irico, some Chinese company. Manufacture date Jan 2009. Which seems pretty late. Seems like an oddity because I never really saw a curved screen tv with component inputs. Back of case has factory perforations for S Video and Digital for higher end models I guess? Also has a "DC in" input that looks like it would be for an alternate power source if you can't use the regular plug.

He was a truck driver and said he got these sets at truck stops with loyalty card points and probably used them only for watching western dvds. Of course the pic doesnt do it justice but the colours are very rich and seems to be a solid lil set.

The magnetbox set on the right sadly has no component inputs and a big scratch on the screen but I took it anyway.

[Anonymous No.9206295]

>>9206287
I think pretty much all of the end-of-life CRT had component input. All CRTs have some degree of curvature but the "flat" ones just try to hide it behind the frame, and a lot of TVs with component input are flat since they were trying to compete with LCDs at that point. On a tiny TV like that there just isn't enough space to hide it which is why the curve is more visible.

solid find though, I love small sets like that and its much harder to find a small one for free compared to a big one.

[Anonymous No.9206297]

>>9206287
meant to upload this pic

[Anonymous No.9206303]

It’s starting to smell like faggot in here

[Anonymous No.9206305]

>>9206295
Interesting, and thanks for the info. I wish I knew more about them in general but this seems like a good place to learn. It's been so long since I saw a monitor with curvature that it was really jarring at first but it's growing on me.

[Anonymous No.9206307]

>>9206287
>Also has a "DC in"
That most likely means it was a tv made for RVs

[Anonymous No.9206313]

[Anonymous No.9206315]

>>9206313
put a shirt on what the fuck man

[Anonymous No.9206318]

Curved tubes are nice

[Anonymous No.9206327]

>>9206282
>but I havent seen ghosting as a result of poor regulation yet
This issue in its lesser form turns into ghosting only above 110khz or so, anything below it looks like overshoot. Your unregulated monitors aren't fast enough to reach the speeds where my F520 has its ghosting issue.
Also a big enough capacitor in the right place can eliminate power-related overshoot as well, the voltage drops from sudden loads wouldn't be rapid enough.

>>9206318
That's a flat Trinitron though. A fucking Fujitsu-rebadged Dell P991.

[Anonymous No.9206336]

>>9206327
I found one of these in broken in a field once RIP.

[Anonymous No.9206370]

Transistors son they block voltage in response to voltage

[Anonymous No.9206393]

why does the tranime poster post non gaming content in a retro gaming thread? is he braindead

[Anonymous No.9206408]

>>9206393
Try adding a resistor?

[Anonymous No.9206414]

Fuseistors are really the transistors of the resistors

[Anonymous No.9206419]

How many volts does one ohm subtract and do amps matter?
We may never know

[Anonymous No.9206421]

How is one to control a circuit with a resistor if he cant control the resistor?
Why do potenciometers have three legs?

[Anonymous No.9206427]

Resistance is measzred in ohm but what does the watt rating meqn?
Do amps matter?
Add resistance of 5 watts?
What?
Im certain resitors aee key in getting control over the circuits but i dont know how exactly yet

[Anonymous No.9206428]

1V100A 100V1A whats more?

[Anonymous No.9206456]

>>9199141
This guy uses 2 resistors to make a voltage divider so he can get 2.5 v for the blanking pin.

https://youtu.be/z1zHji1WSy8?t=301

[Anonymous No.9206573]

I want to pick this up so bad, it's pristine. Too bad it weighs 220+ lbs or 100 kg.

[Anonymous No.9206612]

>>9206573
you're just weak

[Anonymous No.9206619]

Pic related jvc had some noise that would move up the screen in a sort of lightning bolt shape, particularly noticeable with green. A couple of months ago I took the back off and cleaned it a little bit and resoldered and reconnected the front composite connector board. It was having issues with a noisy signal if you didn't have the composite plug in just the right angle, bad connection with the board I think. Now it does the noisy signal but much less and the green interference totally went away. Wtf happened? Did the composite board cause issues with other video outs? I'm using component

>>9206573
Correct

[Anonymous No.9206626]

>>9184160
op died guys

[Anonymous No.9206637]

>>9206619
>>9206612
Quoted my own post. I am too weak for that TV

[Anonymous No.9206643]

>>9206619
Could be interference on your sync cable, is it connected directly?

[Anonymous No.9206657]

>>9206643
Before it was set up using a rgb scart to component converter and then to the TV. Now I'm using a component switcher but I doubt that had an effect, if anything the switcher would introduce more noise, not get rid of it. I saw the same noise using s video iirc, hard to tell with composite because that has inherent noise so hard to pick out the cyclic pattern.

[Anonymous No.9206664]

>>9206657
Using a component switcher+rgb converter that is

[Anonymous No.9206681]

>>9206657
>>9206664
Does it look like this?

[Anonymous No.9206701]

>>9206681
Basically this but less severe and only on green.

[Anonymous No.9206731]

>>9206573
nigga get a dolly and some straps

[Anonymous No.9206757]

>>9206731
Need someone to prevent a hernia lifting it up to and off of a table and into my car tho.

[Anonymous No.9206829]

>>9205048
>>9205083
>>9205121
>>9205152
>>9205175
>>9205182
Why are you evading your ban?

[Anonymous No.9206838]

>>9206757
I’ll do it if you let me hit

[Anonymous No.9206932]

>>9206313
do you weigh 90 pounds?

[Anonymous No.9207016]

>>9188339
You’re just retarded

[Anonymous No.9207139]

I hope I just found my problem. Do those contacts look dirty enough to cause issues?

[Anonymous No.9207143]

>>9206393
>You're a tranny if you like X!!!
Go groom somewhere else

[Anonymous No.9207147]

[Anonymous No.9207272]

the back of an interesting tv for sale, a mitsubishi diamondscan which seems to be like a pc-98 monitor that does 15kHz and 24kHz

[Anonymous No.9207279]

>>9207272
freaking sweet it even has composite

[Anonymous No.9207325]

Anybody know anything about this monitor? It's a Costar CMC2100N manufactured in 2009. It's being sold for $200 locally but it's brand new in box. I've never heard of this brand and I can't seem to find much information about it online.

[Anonymous No.9207326]

>>9207325
It has s-video and bnc composite input

[Anonymous No.9207328]

>>9207325
>>9207326

[Anonymous No.9207330]

>>9207325
>>9207326
security monitor I would assume, with a simple TV board inside

[Anonymous No.9207335]

>>9207325
Its a security monitor with s-video. Nothing special standard crt with no cable tv channels. If it really is new old stock its more valuable and last longer.

[Anonymous No.9207446]

Vision master 450pro may not be the most high end model but is sure has the best design

[Anonymous No.9207451]

This is the pinnacle of crt design

[Anonymous No.9207465]

>>9207451
I've always hated manufacturers using cursive in model numbers, etc. It feels so out of place on electronics.

[Anonymous No.9207478]

>>9184207
Poor amerimutts, have to do life threatening modifications on their CRTs to get RGB

[Anonymous No.9207493]

>>9185370
2030s? Uh dude its unopened, it will last for the next 50 years easy

[Anonymous No.9207497]

>>9185823
Modern screens are dogshit for retro games

[Anonymous No.9207510]

>>9207465
I think it fits nicely in this case, the writing doesnt look out of place

[Anonymous No.9207550]

>>9207493
Unopened doesn’t mean it’s perfect mate
Components still age and degrade, just not from use

[Anonymous No.9207635]

>>9207478
It's fun to be smug about this until you remember you have to install DFO into every console or straight up import them for your games to run correctly.

[Anonymous No.9207685]

>>9207478
>life threatening
hardly

[Joeschmoe No.9207793]

CRTs > over anything else for retro games.

But they're extremely dangerous to tinker with.

Be careful sheep, these high volt caps can still hurt / kill even if powered off.

[Anonymous No.9207814]

>>9207635
You're not a true retro gamer if you don't exclusively play Japanese imports.
Also, it's cheaper and you don't get to look at the ugly American SNES and years of fucked up cover art. Pretty good deal if you ask me.

[Anonymous No.9207816]

Just picked up a 795df but it didnt come with a power cable, can i just use the one that plugs into the power supply in my pc or am i gonna damage something here?

[Anonymous No.9207820]

Whats with all the fucking faggot ass anime pics on CRTs in this general, stop. This is a game board, show games on your CRTs.

[Anonymous No.9207824]

>>9188164
You're gonna need a vga compatible second graphics card, then install CRT Emudriver

[Joeschmoe No.9207832]

>>9207820

The faggot seems to be you though.

A tech support sticky for CRTs would be a good idea, since they're important for retro games.

[Anonymous No.9207839]

>>9207820
I hope you are aware that Touhou is a retro game.

[Anonymous No.9207852]

>>9207839
Please explain how that makes spamming images of ran and usagi on topic

[Anonymous No.9207859]

>>9207852
I was merely definding my own posts, though it seems you didn't direct any disapproval at me in the first place.
I agree that the ranfags posts are worthless offtopic spam in every way.

[Anonymous No.9207868]

>>9207852
both sailor moon and urusei yatsura had retro games which makes it just as ontopic as Touhou

[Anonymous No.9207869]

>>9207816
nvrmind i just plugged it in and it works

[Anonymous No.9207871]

>>9207816
Regular Kaltstromkabel, the ones for PCs, printers etc will work just fine.
>>9207793
caps cant store much power so you probabky wouldnt die, at worse you might get a heart attack and die from that or something

[Anonymous No.9207874]

>>9207869
some more pics?
That Samsung is very pretty with the futuristic front

[Anonymous No.9207880]

>>9207871
That is literally the only danger here, lol?
These components discharge power, it’s not sustained
I would recommend discharging caps before working on them

[Anonymous No.9207886]

>>9207880
I short the two cap pins before soldering if its a large cap that should be good enough to be safe and its only necesseray for the psu caps anyways all the other caps are harmless

[Anonymous No.9207896]

>>9207886
I hope with something well insulated

[Anonymous No.9207905]

>>9207874
i'll post some more when i have a desk in my room, but yeah it looks pretty nice besides some black smears on the side

[Anonymous No.9207910]

>>9207869
>HoMM 3
Kino. I actually have the same monitor as you, also played some HoMM 3 on it.

[Anonymous No.9208104]

>>9207886
Just watch out for caps on defective devices. I had a vintage VCR and a receiver whose caps would still remain charged even after 2 weeks, and some weren't even the huge psu caps.

[Anonymous No.9208162]

Someone here is offering a mint looking NeXT MegaPixel N4005, anybody have a clue what would be a good price to pay for it?

[Anonymous No.9208167]

>>9208162
>pic
It has a d-sub connector I think

[Anonymous No.9208239]

I found a 70s Trinitron with composite in via BNC for free.
Worth taking? I dont know if the image quality and reliabilty of a 70s would hold up today

[Anonymous No.9208243]

>>9208162
It seems to be a rebranded trinitron set to a fixed resolution of 1120x832 68hz. 21” must have been luxurious back in ‘91 but today I think that thing has highly restrictive use cases. Are you sure you want it? Also apparently they had the issue of never turning off while the computer was on, leading to very fast aging. I would not pay much for this unless you were making a period correct pc setup

[Anonymous No.9208252]

>>9208239
BNC and composite in the 70s implies it’s prosumer grade, so probably pretty cool, but you’re right that 50 years has probably done a number on it. See if you can test it before buying because there’s no way to tell otherwise

[Anonymous No.9208257]

>>9208239
Get it if you have the tools to recap.

[Anonymous No.9208275]

>>9208243
Oh I was just curious, it's being offered by a museum so I assumed the condition must be quite pristine, but if it's that limited I'd rather not go for it

[Anonymous No.9208302]

>>9205046
Literally every single European release of a dvd player or VCR outputs vua rgb scart, duh

[Anonymous No.9208721]

>>9207635
Uhh no? Literally almost every single PAL console has innate ability to run NTSC signal, all you need to do is get rid of region lock which is easy softmod stuff for each console.
Only Pal console that can not run NTSC is Saturn, but shipping from Japan to Europe is free anyway

[Anonymous No.9208793]

What am I missing anons? Got the VHF to coaxial adaptor, VHF channel set to 3, and a RF modulator set to 3

[Anonymous No.9208801]

>>9208793

[Anonymous No.9208843]

>>9208721
What are you talking about man
Most consoles don’t have the correct oscillation to do NTSC

[Anonymous No.9208847]

>>9208801
Does the uhf knob go lower? It usually supersedes the vhf

[Anonymous No.9208851]

>>9208847
It only goes to 14. There isn’t much knowledge on this certain tv model though. I popped open the balun and got this.

[Anonymous No.9208854]

>>9208851
Was surprised the UHF wouldn’t go lower though. I’m going to try new baluns otherwise just going to throw in the towel. Too much money already

[Anonymous No.9208878]

>>9208854
Could you take a pic of the back?

[Anonymous No.9208881]

We need new bread soon

[Anonymous No.9208917]

>>9208878
Tossed the old balun and will probably order another. I can spend another $5 on this

[Anonymous No.9208942]

My Dell 771p's picture disappeared, and the machine started making a clicking noise. Does anyone know what could be causing that and any ways to fix it?

[Anonymous No.9208956]

>>9208801
It doesn’t happen to be a Japanese ps1, does it

[Anonymous No.9208962]

>>9208942
I think that means the flyback isn’t getting enough power or it’s broken. I might be wrong but I’m pretty sure it’s a power supply issue you have. Good luck with that

[Anonymous No.9208993]

>>9184548
yeah but you'll still forever be alone and lonely LOL

[Anonymous No.9209114]

>>9208956
Nope NTSC, was playing SH1 on my roommates flatscreen fine

[Anonymous No.9209156]

>>9209114
The problem wouldn’t be the game but the fact that Japan’s tv channels are about 90 channels above ours which messes up rf on American tvs

[Anonymous No.9209482]

The 2030 still runs like a beast

[Anonymous No.9209492]

>>9209156
Couldn't you just set the rf modulator to 90 something then?

[Anonymous No.9209571]

>>9209492
Yes going to channel ~95 works but usually you need a vcr or external tuner to do that, a lot of things don’t go up to the 90s. As far as I’m aware rf modulators only let you select between channel 2 or 3

[Anonymous No.9209597]

>>9209482
is that the jag version? ive been playing a lot of older arcade games recently forgot how good they look, i liie the arcade version of this and also the amstrad cpc version, now try them with that monitor and post pics

[Anonymous No.9209759]

>>9208993
What makes you think that?