The real debate.

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Anonymous Tue May 31 15:45:56 2022 No.8964239 [Reply] [Original]

The real debate.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 16:00:45 2022 No.8964273 >>8964239 The first one, 2 has cool ragdolls but thats it

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 16:12:12 2022 No.8964298 File: 208 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8964273 What about the feels?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 16:26:38 2022 No.8964335 One felt far more thriller like. Better atmosphere too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so3TUeGwMHs

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 16:29:04 2022 No.8964341 >>8964239 Not a debate. 2's neat but the core isn't as solid. The ragdolls are stupid and bullet time is casualized. I was pumped when it came out and pirated this shit out of it, though. Played through it a few times. Still. 1's better.

Anonymous Tue May 31 16:34:00 2022 No.8964353

>>8964298
I prefer the the snowy NY atmosphere of the original honestly, both games had their cool moments, but overall i find myself replaying 1 more than 2, in fact i finished 2 only once, while i replayed the first one at least 10 times, also 2 doesn't have the faces that the og has

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 16:38:37 2022 No.8964369 File: 500 KB, 480x480, fb89fd_75fe7a8405e9464fae9c72b70b263eea~mv2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8964353 >also 2 doesn't have the faces that the og has But it has best girl.

Anonymous Tue May 31 17:04:54 2022 No.8964425

>>8964239
2 has arguably a better story and made some good refinements to the feel gamefeel and controls but it's ruined by how stupid bullet time was made, borderline playtesting failure. the early ragdoll physics are terrible and less immersive than canned animations would have been.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 17:23:05 2022 No.8964472 >>8964239 The first was always more memorable to me and the second made bullet time completely OP

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 17:37:45 2022 No.8964516 >>8964239 >>8964273 >>8964335 >>8964341 >>8964425 >>8964472 >debate

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 18:53:40 2022 No.8964748 >>8964239 one

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 19:08:10 2022 No.8964791 I prefer 2 way more. I love 1 but 2 has incredibly smooth action and the bullet time never felt busted, it was just different and meant to provide moments where you went on a rampage. The level design is also way better

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 19:15:24 2022 No.8964815 I prefer the original more, out of the two. But I like them both.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 19:20:01 2022 No.8964831 the real debate is why the fuck these games haven't been remastered or updated to run on an OS made in the past 15 years, when even mods don't completely fix them

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 19:21:45 2022 No.8964834 2 has too many gimmick levels

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 19:30:45 2022 No.8964856 >>8964239 the first one is way better, it's not much of a debate

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 19:36:14 2022 No.8964874 File: 1.92 MB, 200x200, saml.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] its not even a question

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 19:39:27 2022 No.8964881 >>8964874 >We had a good time, didn’t we?

Anonymous Tue May 31 19:40:15 2022 No.8964885

I think how broken 2's difficulty gives it to 1 by default, if that weren't the case I'd be split. Nothing in 2 is as iconic as the first episode of 1 but I think it remains consistent throughout whereas 1 kind of goes off a cliff after the confrontation with Lupino.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 19:50:43 2022 No.8964920 File: 191 KB, 1366x768, max niagara.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] so long ago ;_;

Anonymous Tue May 31 21:58:00 2022 No.8965285

>>8964920

There's something about the original Max Payne that has a downplayed science fiction tone with the valkyr drug. Like the drug itself was part of some sort of super soldier steroid enhancement program, that became a popular narcotic. The developers made up their own fantasy drug trips when Max is on V. Also the first game is a straight third person shooter, with a few moments of platforming. With a revenge plotline.

Max Payne 2 drops the valkyr drug, but still references it as a thing that happened in the past. Max gets soft rebooted into being a detective. The game adds in-game cinematic cutscene models to the engine. You do see unique models that have specific poses and actions. in the original Max Payne, in-game cutscenes would just have the models in their default idle posses, or doing an in-game action. Max Payne 2 also adds some 'helpful NPC's' with guns to the mix. The original game has NPC's in spots. The game is a little shorter and they did make it a little easier on purpose. I do like the weirdness with the AU stage. The game does add Dead Man Walking as a bonus game. basically an arcade survival mode.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 22:15:11 2022 No.8965340 >>8964239 any max payne mods?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 22:20:21 2022 No.8965362 File: 302 KB, 600x338, 1625232763369.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 22:36:45 2022 No.8965401 >>8964831 >not using a /vr/ pc for old games

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 22:41:23 2022 No.8965419 Hard to compare. I think Max Payne enemies have too much health. So I find Max Payne 2 more fun, but also unreasonably easy. In terms of story, Max Payne Norse allusions are more interesting, but overall the story is lacking in coherence.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 22:55:05 2022 No.8965456 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXsMIpU1f8U

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 22:57:11 2022 No.8965462 2 is too easy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 01:54:08 2022 No.8965898 File: 446 KB, 1024x768, 1369978496957.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8964239 i remember buying the first one, big box and a players guide. eventually got the second, fun but no where near as gritty as the first.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 08:34:42 2022 No.8966772 >>8965362 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 08:37:52 2022 No.8966779 >>8964239 2 got more corporate and less soulful. Depressing snowy NY is better atmosphere. Also being such a small company that you use the game's director face for the MC is peak soul.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 08:41:41 2022 No.8966786 >>8964831 Like what? Game works out of the box on my computer

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 08:56:32 2022 No.8966820 >>8964273 >2 has cool ragdolls Don't forget aiming actually mattering, makes it even more fun to kill 3 guys within one shootdodge.

Anonymous Wed Jun 1 09:40:43 2022 No.8966878 [DELETED]

>>8966820
>2 has cool ragdolls

The original PC version of Max Payne 2 adds the Havok physics engine to the MaxFX game engine. MaxFX 2 upgrades the renderer from DX8.1 to DX9, and adds Havok physics engine license. The home console ports of Max Payne 2 are made on the Criterion Software's RenderWare engine instead. Because Rockstar used the RenderWare license every chance they could. But I think the PS2 and Xbox ports uses Havok physics as well.

Anonymous Wed Jun 1 09:50:48 2022 No.8966906

>>8966820
>>2 has cool ragdolls

The original PC version of Max Payne 2 adds the Havok physics engine to MaxFX. MaxFX is Remedy's own game engine that was basically made for Max Payne 1. MaxFX "2" upgrades the renderer from DX8.1 to DX9, and adds the Havok physics engine license. The home console ports of Max Payne 2 are made on the Criterion Software's RenderWare engine instead. Because Rockstar used the RenderWare license every chance they could. But I think the PS2 and Xbox ports uses Havok physics as well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 10:02:07 2022 No.8966927 File: 53 KB, 431x557, Funny as hell, I was a reaction image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] IT'S PAYNE!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 10:30:14 2022 No.8966975 Does MP1 run on Win7 without much tinkering?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 11:47:06 2022 No.8967081 >>8964298 The feels of 1 were better. The story in Max Payne 2 felt tacked on and unorganic. Too many ties to the first that didn't make sense. Would have been better if they'd just made a new story altogether.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 12:05:03 2022 No.8967113 >>8966975 yes

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 12:16:13 2022 No.8967131 mirrorS arE morE fuN thaN televisoN

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 14:12:48 2022 No.8967373 File: 161 KB, 990x666, this is love.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >this is love

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 14:19:24 2022 No.8967393 >>8964239 I wish they gave 2 a better name, you can't even tell it's a Max Payne game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 15:01:16 2022 No.8967508 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ym7MwIkLbA

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 15:05:04 2022 No.8967520 File: 265 KB, 376x438, 1512863803707.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8964239 I like the first one better, but I absolutely despise those nightmare sequences with the god-awful platforming.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 15:07:11 2022 No.8967525 >>8967131 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BF5Y-7Xge0

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 15:08:32 2022 No.8967528 File: 188 KB, 800x1130, 1637455768233.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] okay, hear me out...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 15:11:02 2022 No.8967534 >>8965401 >not using a /vr/ pc for everything

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 15:12:20 2022 No.8967538 >>8967525 Is that Sam Lake?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 17:03:55 2022 No.8967783 >>8964239 There is nothing to debate - sequel was better in all possible regards. Anyone claiming otherwise is just desperate to fit in or pulls "muh sovl" bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 17:49:28 2022 No.8967914 >>8967783 No?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 18:02:27 2022 No.8967962 So what was your favorite quote from either game? >[Gognitti would be moving fast]. I don't know about angels, but it's fear that gives men wings.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 18:26:32 2022 No.8968063 >>8967962 >The Flesh of Fallen Angels! Come to me all! Asteroth, Beelzebub, Asmodeus, Bapholada, Lucifer, Loki, Satan, Cthulhu, Lilith, Della! Blood, to you all! Hearing that for the first time was so bizarre. What a turn the game takes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 08:01:46 2022 No.8970196 >>8967528 too much jank for a third person shooter that requires precision there is still fun to be had however

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 16:31:31 2022 No.8971171 >>8966927 randomly whistles "HEY-AH!" "WHAT THE HELL?!" "WACK THE SUCKA!"

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 16:40:22 2022 No.8971195 >>8967783 Dumb contrarian

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 16:51:02 2022 No.8971227

>>8964239
1>3>2... 3 isn't retro tho. One is the absolute king. Do the nightmare sequences differ from console to PC release. I just beat 1 earlier this year on PC and it felt waaay different then I remember when I played it on ps2. Pretty awful, but I remember being creeped out on the ps2 version.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 19:31:50 2022 No.8971606 >>8967783 sovlless porn actor lover

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 19:46:30 2022 No.8971628 >>8971227 no

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 20:02:25 2022 No.8971657

>>8971606
>sovlless porn actor lover

I thought Timothy Gibbs was just a soap opera actor? Remedy did want to replace the game developer likenesses with actual actors. On top of that, during the development of Max Payne 2, 3DRealms and Remedy decided to sell their shares of the franchise to Rockstar Games. 3DR produced and partially funded Max Payne 1, so they were partial owners.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 20:10:46 2022 No.8971679 >>8971606 he's no sam lake but he was pretty good, was able to pull off that spooky vibe.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 20:25:30 2022 No.8971717 >>8971657 Wonder why they didn't just use James McCaffrey for the likeness in 2.

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 20:58:37 2022 No.8971776

>>8971628
Okay, well those nightmare scenes where you platform are absolutely atrocious, but the voice acting is still terrifying. When your dead wife starts asking "Why Max, Why??!" all crying and sniveling, it really was disturbing. As a Lit fag, playing that as an adult and after taking classes, almost made me feel like Max is a totally unreliable narrator, and possibly killed his family and the whole game is in his head.

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 21:25:01 2022 No.8971849

Interesting to see some Max Payne 2 dissent in here, for a real long time people rallied behind it because it had a horrible console port and kind of slipped through the cracks in its day. They're both classic games that are perfectly complimentary to each other. I'll say that Max Payne 2 is quite a bit easier, but the feeling of going into slow-mo and shooting a bunch of guys into the air is awesome. Reminds me of Last Man Standing.

3 is goated too. Amazing series of games.

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 21:27:31 2022 No.8971857

>>8971227
I had completely forgotten about this in time but I checked back in on the PS2 version of Max Payne recently for the first time in forever, and there's are a really annoying auto-adjust that's always present in the console version of Max Payne. The game is constantly trying to center the aiming reticle in the middle of the screen, but what seemed like a quality-of-life implementation 20 years ago (we need to help people wrangle the analog sticks) is super annoying today.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 21:28:54 2022 No.8971858 >>8967528 A super cool game that succeeds greatly on its best designed levels. Unfortunately they can't all be zingers, some of the levels suck and it sucks to play them. Great idea though, too bad they never got to iterate on it. RIP Midway.

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 21:30:09 2022 No.8971863

I think Max Payne 2 feels great to play but it's got some less-than-ideal levels. I hate the TV set funhouse you have to visit two separate times, the mission where Vinny is stuck in the Captain Baseball Bat Boy suit isn't great, and the construction site is large and kinda bland. MP2 is still a great game though.

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 23:24:29 2022 No.8972119

>>8971857
Word, I meant specifically did they make the nightmare platforming more tolerable. I remember loving it when I first played it to completion (I had played the PC version a buddy had in college, but I only messed around w the Blade in the night club mod ((so fucking cool I can't find it anywhere now)), it feels so good on PC other than the platforming.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 23:29:52 2022 No.8972126 >>8971863 >I hate the TV set funhouse Filtered. It's the coolest location in the entire game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 23:54:48 2022 No.8972167 >>8964831 Use windows xp compatibility mode and a directx mod you could find on google.

Anonymous Fri Jun 3 00:36:28 2022 No.8972250
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Wow this is weird. I would have assumed the sequel would have been more well liked but looking here I guess there's a reason why people talk about 1 more than 2.
I adored Max Payne 2, it felt like an improvement in a lot of ways visually and gameplay wise. Only real issue I have is that bullet time feels cheap to use since you move in real time while everyone else slows down. I loved that in the original bullet time was used as a way to have a better handling of the situation while still being vulnerable, Max Payne 2 has a lot of gameplay quirks from 1 regarding combat, but the bullet time is completely broken.
Max Payne 1 is a fun ride but there's some frustration in the level design that feel annoying even if loading up a save is near instant. The presentation is also something I love but not for being a technical marvel or anything, it's a cheesy looking game and I adore it for that reason, but damn 2 made me double take a couple times with how much they improved the engine overall. The ending in 2 is also perfect, absolutely loved 2 for that reason alone, even though the original's ending is iconic and insane.
I can see why people would love 1 more but fuck dude 2 wins me over a tad more.

Anonymous Fri Jun 3 01:46:24 2022 No.8972404

>>8972250
I would take it with a grain of salt as classic 4chan contrarianism. Opinions on the series have shifted over time (MP3 was thought to be a dud at release but since then it's become extremely divisive) but Max Payne 2 used to be the one--but probably because it was underappreciated at the time.

I wonder what we can expect from the remakes of 1 and 2 that Remedy just announced.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 01:56:58 2022 No.8972431 >>8964920 Bullshit level. Had to cheese it by creating a choke point in the doorway and just clobber everyone with the bat one by one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 02:06:43 2022 No.8972446 >>8964239 I never knew there was a difference in bullet time between the games. I literally only ever dove around. I never just did the slow mo.

Anonymous Fri Jun 3 02:47:57 2022 No.8972513

>>8972404
i loved the story/dark atmosphere of the first game, but i was filtered by the black levels with the red lines,
when MP2 released i wasnt interested as i was playing other things, prob ffX/X-2,
the third game prob like most people passed me by, as i was playing RDR at the time and waiting for gtaV,
my cuz kept telling me to get it but i wasnt interested, eventually he lent it to me and wow! fucking loved it, played the shit out of it till my 360 died then i got the ps3 version, played the shit out of it again till my ps3 died, then downloaded a cracked version for pc, becoz fuck steam,
MP3 reignited my love for the series, then i started MP2 on pc using xpadder with a psx DS1, the controls arent perfect but its still better than on ps2, looks better as well

if the remakes have the MP3 engine and James McCaffrey it will be fucking gold!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 02:56:06 2022 No.8972530 >>8967783 >only people with my opinion can be genuine No?

Anonymous Fri Jun 3 05:58:32 2022 No.8972886 [DELETED]

>>8972513
>if the remakes have the MP3 engine and James McCaffrey it will be fucking gold!

They won't. Max Payne 3 uses Rockstars RAGE engine. The remakes that are being made by Remedy will use their Northlight Engine. Which was the engine used for Quantum Break and Control.

Anonymous Fri Jun 3 06:03:28 2022 No.8972893

>>8972513
>if the remakes have the MP3 engine and James McCaffrey it will be fucking gold!

Max Payne 3 uses Rockstars RAGE engine (GTA 4, 5, Red Dead 2). Remedy will not be using it for the Max Payne remakes. They will be using their own engine called Northlight, which was featured in Quantum Break and Control. I'm fine with that. I'm sure Remedy will make a good looking remake. I have a feeling that James McCaffrey will be back. Though since Rockstar is funding the development, it will be up to them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 06:32:20 2022 No.8972941 >>8971863 The construction site is the second best level tho, after the rich apartments with the cleaners.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 06:34:57 2022 No.8972950 >>8972431 I saw a gameplay video on YouTube where the player basically does this.

Anonymous Fri Jun 3 08:27:17 2022 No.8973082

Great thing about the MP series is that each game has a unique combination of pros that draw you to playing each one. 1 leans heavy for story And atmosphere, 3 is for gameplay and new settings and 2 has a balance of og atmosphere and quality gameplay. Max is just a fantastic antihero. All 3 games really unfold and portray his story so well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 08:43:55 2022 No.8973094 >>8973082 >3 is for gameplay 3 is for trash

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 17:18:23 2022 No.8973969 >>8964239 Why am I getting weird purple vomit graphics and color banding trying to run this game on a modern PC? It's on Max's coat and in shadows and the skybox.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 17:46:00 2022 No.8974042 >>8973969 Using a DX wrapper probably will fix it. Try MP1 or 2 from this link: https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA/folder/zgsXQIKA

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 17:54:15 2022 No.8974059 >>8973082 I think 2 really hit a sweetspot in the feel of shootdodge and pulling off a sequence of headshots, you had good animation feedback without the unwieldiness of the euphoria engine. shame about the retarded difficulty as has been said.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 18:24:06 2022 No.8974158 >>8973969 Max Payne 1 or 2?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 18:27:38 2022 No.8974172 >>8964831 Remedy is making a remake at the moment. Same engine as Control has.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 18:31:39 2022 No.8974187 >>8974158 1

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 18:51:09 2022 No.8974239 vlad...shut up and stay alive im coming...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 19:41:04 2022 No.8974408 In the end he was ... a real cowboy bebop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru_H5PiyfSA

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 04:09:07 2022 No.8975681 >>8964239 Played 2 before 1 and honestly I gotta say 1 since the plotline stands up on its own way better and I love the gradual progression of fighting mafia goons and then fighting elite corporate mercenaries and G-men.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 19:53:57 2022 No.8977603 >>8964239 bunp

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 20:38:08 2022 No.8977742 >>8967525 The narrator's accent makes him sound so fucking autistic and creepy. Kino.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 20:40:22 2022 No.8977750 File: 440 KB, 1600x1548, WOMM+Certification.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8973969 Iunno mane just follow pcgamingwiki, use a widescreen fix + dgvoodoo. Dgvoodoo is a tool you should always have in your retro PC arsenal anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 20:42:09 2022 No.8977753 >>8964831 >doesn't have 3 wrappers and vmware installed ngmi

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 20:44:38 2022 No.8977760 >>8973094 Harsh and you know it's harsh. I'm not a big fan of its cutscene direction and Brazil certainly is a new direction but, come onnnn it's not that bad at all. It plays better than 2.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 20:47:47 2022 No.8977776 >that series only you and internet weirdos are into, friends are completely neutral or negative toward it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:31:04 2022 No.8977891 >>8972893 wtf Remedy is remaking Max Payne?!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:34:11 2022 No.8977898 Playing the android port on my switch. What's the go to difficulty. There's some that I get killed in like one shot. But Fugitive feels way too easy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:38:35 2022 No.8977916 >>8973969 What OS? Sounds like a color depth issue.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:46:19 2022 No.8977949 >>8977916 win7

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:50:07 2022 No.8977959 >>8964239 Enjoy them as a combo instead of being an autistic tard that has to pit everything against each other and can only enjoy one

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:50:20 2022 No.8977960 File: 144 KB, 640x400, 01 (191).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8964298 max feels

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:58:31 2022 No.8977986 >>8977960 It's good but kind of undercut by the fact that they have had a total of two minutes of conversation previously and they act like old lovers, I guess it's a soft retcon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:14:58 2022 No.8978023 Honestly didn't like 2 story at all. Played only for the gameplay, but it doesn't make sense and I really don't like the new actors. Doesn't feel right. Yeah it looks more "professional" but also a little generic. Sam Lake is Max Payne.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:54:43 2022 No.8978143 >>8977986 Also she's died

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 22:56:41 2022 No.8978149 >>8964273 this is true but those ragdolls were fucking awesome

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:00:41 2022 No.8978169 >>8978143 That was lazy. She took a bullet to the head and then suddenly shows up, no explanation at all given.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:18:17 2022 No.8978223 File: 48 KB, 1200x681, 9hwZSStBpgSPdhWfxVyuA8-1200-80.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8964239 Both, and MP2's ending is my favorite closure on the character. I just treat MP3 as a what-if

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:32:59 2022 No.8978273 Max! Dearest of all my friends...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:37:37 2022 No.8978304 "Bad guys with big guns. They got me pinched down in the entrance hall." - Shut up and stay alive. (I'm coming for you).

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 23:50:06 2022 No.8978358

I like how 1 is weirder from the start, 2 is more like a regular crime movie until the final quarter or so and it never gets as trippy as 1, all the writing is still great though which is obviously missing in 3. It was smarter not to try to copy that style if you're not Sam Lake though. 2 is a better shooter even with the bullet time working like it does imo, it's still challenging if you play on the hardest difficulty at least I remember it being, it's been many years and when I tried replaying them I ended up not finishing 2 even though I was enjoying it.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 01:53:42 2022 No.8978741
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>>8978358
>I like how 1 is weirder from the start, 2 is more like a regular crime movie until the final quarter or so and it never gets as trippy as 1,

The original Max Payne had a much longer development time than Max Payne 2. Remedy developed their own game engine, conceptual development started as early as 1996, and went gold in 2001. Some early versions of the game showed 'mutants' who were genetically enhanced by Valkyr, which looks like would have shown up late in the game. The Matrix was an obvious turning point for the development of the first game. The Matrix came out in 1999. Bullet Time seemed to be fully implemented after the release of this movie. Max Payne 2's development was between 2001 and 2003, and was much shorter. But at this point, Remedy had a formula and an upgraded game engine to work with. They scaled things down a bit, probably realising that Rockstar was going to carry on the series.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 02:11:44 2022 No.8978779 >>8965362 I just recently played the max payne gamesand they great but fuck this part.

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