>best mech game >series died with it name a worse crime against gaming

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Anonymous Tue May 31 12:02:24 2022 No.8963797 [Reply] [Original]

>best mech game
>series died with it
name a worse crime against gaming

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 12:10:28 2022 No.8963810 Uhhh best mech game is Cubix for GameCube

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 12:36:44 2022 No.8963857 >>8963797 Good fucking taste anon, luv me some Burgerland Votoms. Shame it's a pain in the ass to run on modern windows systems, should run on loonix just fine i think.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 12:54:49 2022 No.8963906 >>8963857 Giving it a shot on loonix later, but I get the impression it might be easier to run the windows version under Wine rather than the native one.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 16:07:59 2022 No.8964290 File: 66 KB, 640x480, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8963797 Western "mech" games are FPSs with a robot skin.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 17:16:24 2022 No.8964453 >>8963797 >name a worse crime against gaming Releasing the (then) critically acclaimed half life 2 and never finishing the product with episode 3. Instead they release some shitty vr game nobody asked for 15 years later.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 18:05:21 2022 No.8964583 File: 1.29 MB, 500x281, 1630959272988.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8963857 Someone on /tg/ posted a link to a full fix for Win 7-10 systems sometime back. Could probably find it in one of the archives.

Anonymous Tue May 31 18:06:59 2022 No.8964592
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>>8963906
WineHQ's last rating for this game was in 2011 or something, wew.
Should work on newer versions of wine hopefully.
>>8964290
Well then, what is the definition of a "mech games" to you anon? Zone of the Enders?Armored Core? MechWarrior? Gungriffon?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 18:11:16 2022 No.8964605 File: 2.55 MB, 1920x1080, battlefront-3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8964453 >>8963797 You both have shit taste if you either of these is any good You want to hear a real crime against gaming? cancelling a game that's completed

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 18:11:34 2022 No.8964608 >>8964583 Thanks you anon, i'll dig around the archives and post the link here if possible.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 18:13:46 2022 No.8964623 >>8964592 You gotta be able to fly or transform or something. A mech is a vehicle and the gameplay should reflect that, while also feeling distinct from other vehicle games.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 18:35:02 2022 No.8964702 >>8964608 I believe the post was around two or three years ago, right before I left /tg/ due to the place going further to shit.

Anonymous Tue May 31 18:38:50 2022 No.8964715
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>>8964702
>>8964583
Unfortunately all i could find was post saying they were playing it using pcem, whoever i did (i think) find the patch on myabandonware.
www myabandonware com/game/heavy-gear-ii-a79
>>8964605
Man that shit still hurts.
>>8964623
That's an interesting take anon, i don't necessarily disagree with you but... there is some awesome Macross games out there if that's your thing.

Anonymous Tue May 31 18:51:02 2022 No.8964745
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>>8964605
I can think of a better example.

>Lobotomy Software
They also developed the Sony PlayStation version of Quake, which was completed but never released since Lobotomy could not persuade anyone to publish it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 18:58:08 2022 No.8964763 >>8963857 The new dgVoodoo makes miracles. I would try that first. >>8964623 So Steel Battalion is not a mech game and Votoms is not a mecha anime.

Anonymous Tue May 31 19:03:47 2022 No.8964774

>>8964715
Did a bit of looking and I found the zip that was posted in the thread on my HDD. 350mb compressed with what seems to be everything needed to play the game, probably a copy of the install directory. I'll upload it provided I can find a site that will let me upload without an account. Scanned it with Malwarebytes and there was nothing according to it, but I will not vouch that it's 100% confirmed safe.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 19:14:04 2022 No.8964810 >>8964715 >there is some awesome Macross games out there if that's your thing. Not enough customization for my taste, but Armored Core/Daemon X Machina is indeed a favorite of mine.

Anonymous Tue May 31 19:39:45 2022 No.8964883

>>8964763
>So Steel Battalion is not a mech game
They literally call the vehicle a "vertical tank," but I think it goes to rather extreme lengths to distinguish it as a giant robot. Certainly doesn't feel like an FPS or any other genre to me. I wouldn't slight someone for calling it a tank sim though.
>Votoms is not a mecha anime
Anon.. we're talking about videogames and their gameplay, not their story and appearance. Gundam Battle Assault isn't a mech game, for example.

Anonymous Tue May 31 19:41:19 2022 No.8964890
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>>8964745
I always wondered why Q1 didn't get a PS1 release, that explains it.
Wonder why they didn't manage to get a publisher, was Q2 already on its way when they finished it?
>>8964763
>dgVoodoo
I'll check that out, thank you anon.
>>8964774
Welp, good luck anon.
Hopefully someone makes a /mvr/ thread and put it on a pasta.
>>8964810
>Not enough customization for my taste.
Not sure if you're aware of them but you should check out Genki's Phantom Crash and S.L.A.I. if customization is your jam.
>Daemon X Machina
Nice.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 19:45:57 2022 No.8964905 >>8964890 >Not sure if you're aware of them but you should check out Genki's Phantom Crash and S.L.A.I. if customization is your jam. I've heard of them, but that's all. Thanks, will check them out.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 31 20:00:21 2022 No.8964964 >>8964890 >Mecha games made by Genki My dick

Anonymous Tue May 31 20:05:08 2022 No.8964976
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>>8964883
>Gundam Battle Assault isn't a mech game, for example
On that we can agree, but if you want transformable flying mechs you either get something Macross or stuff like Gun Metal which gameplay-wise is hardly mech at all (fun game though).
Heavy Gear at least has some systems to manage.

Anonymous Tue May 31 22:24:41 2022 No.8965369
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>>8964964
Shame they didn't do much to improve their weird "dungeon crawler?" mech games, id love to see something like Deadalus with some light roguelike mechanics mixed in.
>>8964976
Good taste.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 00:27:32 2022 No.8965693 >>8964976 I don’t think flying or transforming must be a hard-and-fast rule, but I do think that “mech game” is a genre that should be recognizable beyond its themes alone.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 00:30:58 2022 No.8965696 >>8963797 that's not earthsiege II

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 00:41:47 2022 No.8965718 >>8963797 I hope youre the guy who posted an ad on this board for heavy gear II I also like starsiege and mechwarrior 3. All around the same time.

Anonymous Wed Jun 1 00:43:42 2022 No.8965723

>>8964290
Most jap mech games are no depth action shooters (see: robotech battlecry, daemon x machina, most gundam / ish games)
Armored core is the lone exception and even then it doesnt have the weight of mechwarrior/shatteredsteel/chromehounds

Nice contra hardcorps reskin though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 01:19:07 2022 No.8965812 File: 1.78 MB, 500x522, 1653719795898.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8965723 >jap >robotech battlecry

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 01:19:17 2022 No.8965814 >>8965696 Fucking based

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 04:29:40 2022 No.8966231 >>8963797 >>best mech game lol lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 04:32:48 2022 No.8966237 >>8965723 Westaboo opinions will always be invalid. >Battlecry Jap >Chromehounds not Jap rofl

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 06:25:14 2022 No.8966501 File: 60 KB, 355x500, R.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8964810 Have you tried steamboat chronicles?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 08:48:12 2022 No.8966804 >>8965723 have played AC 1-3? the mechs have more weight feel there so I take it you only played 4th or 5th gen

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 13:12:05 2022 No.8967236 >>8966501 I have not. Downloading now!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 15:00:35 2022 No.8967507 >>8964290 >posts a contra reskin

Anonymous Wed Jun 1 16:02:54 2022 No.8967627
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>>8965693
>“mech game” is a genre that should be recognizable beyond its themes alone
Absolutely. In general this has been done with tank controls and/or systems management, so stuff like Heavy Gear (especially the first one), MechWarrior, Steel Battalion, Earthsiege/Starsiege, G-Nome, etc. all qualify.
>>8965723
Gundam Side Story for the Dreamcast is happy exception to the rule. Cockpit view only and relatively "simulative" approach (as far as piloting a 20-meter tall humanoid giant robot go). Too bad most other Gundam games are just Dragon Ball with robots.
>>8965718
>the guy who posted an ad on this board for heavy gear II
I forgot, the absolute mad lad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 16:34:48 2022 No.8967704 File: 746 KB, 1280x720, gungriffon_ii.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8967627 GunGriffon is another one too! it features "military" style mechs similar to Front Mission's wanzers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 17:12:15 2022 No.8967795 >>8965369 >Shame they didn't do much to improve their weird "dungeon crawler?" mech games Can I get spoonfed on these? I'm more familiar with Genki's racing output. BRAHMA is a good starting point?

Anonymous Wed Jun 1 17:20:35 2022 No.8967819

>>8963797
Name me a mech game that has survived to this day that isn't SRW.
>inb4 front mission
You can't genuinely think that counts, do you? The last mech-focused one was what, Evolved? That was 2010, after that we got a shitty MGSV clone that refused to focus on the mechs, and remakes of previous games

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 17:21:36 2022 No.8967823 >>8967819 one mech series, I meant

Anonymous Wed Jun 1 18:03:46 2022 No.8967967
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>>8967819
MechWarrior 5 came out in 2019 and is still getting updates. It's a far cry from the production values of 3 and 4, but it's not dead.
Gundam games suck, but they are still making them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 18:05:43 2022 No.8967975 >>8967967 I'm gonna be honest, I keep forgetting that MW5 Merc was a thing

Anonymous Wed Jun 1 18:06:20 2022 No.8967978
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>>8967704
btw, if saturn emulation is simply not feasible to you, give "HIGH-MACS Simulator" a try.
grape65535 jp/games/ggsim/ totally free too.
Not a /vr/ game, but it does its job well enough.
>>8967795
It's the one with the most gameplay variety i guess, but they all still suffer from repetitiveness in the end.
>>8967819
>Name me a mech game that has survived to this day that isn't SRW.
Both Battletech and Mechwarrior manged to get new releases awhile ago.
Bamco is crapping out 4 Gundam games this year.
And there is also hope for a new Armored Core.

Also, those fucking typos man. I really need to stop posting late at night.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 18:51:42 2022 No.8968134 >>8967507 That's the point

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 19:24:00 2022 No.8968250 >>8967978 >And there is also hope for a new Armored Core. My hope is waning fast

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 19:26:26 2022 No.8968256 >>8967795 I love the Kileak games personally, 2 is good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 1 20:19:18 2022 No.8968429 File: 177 KB, 872x657, HIGH-MACS.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8967978 Bravo anon, HIGH-MACS simulator is based and what mecha games should be.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 05:41:24 2022 No.8969905 >>8964883 Pretty sure the game has the line on the first mission “This is no tank or mech, I’ll show them the power of my steel battalion!”

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 09:58:33 2022 No.8970421

>>8963797
Anybody tried battleMETAL? Recent MechWarrior 2-like made using the Darkplaces Quake engine.

https://youtu.be/3HRKOj0-ggM

>>8964583

Digging around online, I found these, but after giving them a try I just end up getting error messages.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HeavyGear/comments/nyvg2u/heavy_gear_1_and_heavy_gear_2_pc_repacks_now/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 11:15:16 2022 No.8970563 >>8970421 For the first one there is no need to do anything anymore, dgVoodoo is sufficient.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 13:49:40 2022 No.8970804 >>8969905 So it isn't a mech game, it's a steel battalion game

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 15:49:12 2022 No.8971060 >>8967978 >>8968429 What is HIGH-MACS? I've just watched a dude play a "HIGH-MACS" in Arma 3

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 15:52:53 2022 No.8971065

>>8968429
I hate it, it just makes the mech into a tank which I feel defeats the point if you make such a fantastical machine so mundane. In armored core there was a notable gap between those who had a mech and those who didn't, and an even bigger gap between people who had regular mechs and people who had MCs. And that's even before 4/4A had you zipping all over the place.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 15:54:03 2022 No.8971070 >>8971065 into a plane, I meant moreso

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 15:55:05 2022 No.8971072 >>8971065 Who had ACs**

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 18:46:02 2022 No.8971501

>>8971060
Autistic mech simulator, here you fo http://grape65535.jp/games/ggsim/
>>8971065
That's the whole appeal of it, it's a military machine designed to fit a combat role, not a supersayan spamming beams all over the place.
Even in Heavy Gear heavy tanks are a serious threat.

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 20:02:48 2022 No.8971658
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Shame that the localization of GG1 was botched by Sega, lots of Jap military autism was lost because of it.
Also, there is a group translating GG2 if anyone is interested, currently in open beta.
>>8968429
I love it too anon, just wish it was open source.
>>8970421
Never heard about it, looks decent.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 20:06:29 2022 No.8971667 man you used to see this game everywhere in stores and later bundled with other Activision releases like quake 2 and a couple others. I've never actually played it though but my curiosity has been bugging me I really should play it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 23:14:03 2022 No.8972104 File: 697 KB, 1280x720, 1580311241422.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8964290 >>8964623 >>8964883 Congrats anon, these are literally the dumbest hot takes I have ever seen on this board. You are truly a special class of retard.

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 23:17:45 2022 No.8972109

>>8970804
This "argument" is pure semantics. If you weren't a pedantic newfag then you would know it's very rare for a mecha IP to actually refer to it's mechs by that name. Gundam as been around since the damn 70s and not once has any character referred to a mobile suit as a mecha or mech. Try again.

>>8966231
You know he's right faggot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 2 23:19:49 2022 No.8972113 We're just not gonna talk about Front Mission?

Anonymous Thu Jun 2 23:27:16 2022 No.8972121

>>8972113
I've been going through them and it's been ages since I had last found something that caught my interest that much. I just started 4, finished 3 a few days ago. Do 5 and 4 have a bigger party limit like 1 or am I cucked into using 4 wanzers again?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 00:31:12 2022 No.8972238 >>8964290 like Jap mech games are any better. Bulk slash don't feel like a mech game. the only series that has come even close to nailing the feel of piloting a mech is Mechwarrior.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 00:36:10 2022 No.8972249 File: 1.96 MB, 854x430, 1649980849445.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8972104 God, Io Fleming is such a cool dude and MC. Thunderbolt is a treat as well.

Anonymous Fri Jun 3 00:42:13 2022 No.8972262

>>8971501
>That's the whole appeal of it, it's a military machine designed to fit a combat role, not a supersayan spamming beams all over the place.
I know but that's not what I like in mechs, I grew up watching Mazinger Z, and we don't really have anything like that in games other than War of the Monsters and if you use the mech in EDF

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 00:43:13 2022 No.8972265 >>8972113 It's dead anon. They haven't made an actual FM game since 2010 and people hated it. It's all remakes now.

Anonymous Fri Jun 3 00:53:59 2022 No.8972292

>>8972262
To play devil's advocate, that's really fucking hard. A hallmark of super robots is that they're damn near indestructible and they have their ultra hissatsu killing move that destroys the enemy of the week in one blow, but only when the episode is 5 minutes from ending. How do you translate that into a game?

Anonymous Fri Jun 3 02:53:06 2022 No.8972519
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>>8972113
I know it's not a mainline game, but FM: Gun Hazard is legit my favorite game on the SNES/SFC.
>>8972121
Nah, i think 6 is the party size limit AFAIK.
>>8972249
Kek, is that from G-Savior?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 03:53:10 2022 No.8972653 File: 47 KB, 720x540, 1641493777533.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8972519 >Kek, is that from G-Savior? Nah, it's from Gundam 0079: The War for Earth. A very magical disaster of a game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDMxNeMl66E

Anonymous Fri Jun 3 05:34:04 2022 No.8972847

>>8972653
This doesn't even cover the game's bizarre English localization, which along with being fairly campy in C&C: Red Alert kinda way also localizes several Gundam names/terms in completely incomprehensible ways, like calling Zakus 'ZAKs' and referring to the Zeon as 'John.'

As in, "Destroy this white giant... for John."

https://youtu.be/XJWV9-TRD1E

Also, apparently Japanese Gundam fans like to make fun of the actor playing Char for his chin, calling him "Agoi Suisei" (Chin Comet).

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 05:35:16 2022 No.8972849 File: 580 KB, 928x574, shar_not_char.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8972653 Live action hilarity aside, the cg looks pretty good for a '96/97 game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 11:33:06 2022 No.8973291 File: 47 KB, 560x440, RAD.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8972262 >>8972292 If you want supa robotto the closest thing would probably be Gigantic Drive.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 12:32:33 2022 No.8973349 >>8972519 The G-Saviour game is ballin'

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 12:33:34 2022 No.8973354 >>8972238 This is so funny

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 12:55:06 2022 No.8973393 The ideal mech game should play like Love & Destroy, with more than one enemy on-screen at a time.

Anonymous Fri Jun 3 13:04:15 2022 No.8973412

>>8966804
AC mechs feel more like janky than weighty. They're move way too fast yet have the maneuverability of a tractor. The level design is often too cramped to make up for the poor maneuverability. You'll end up bunny hopping like a retard rather than taking out enemies systematically and strategically. Not to mention the last levels of the first game involve verticality that the controls and camera views aren't designed for. Utter japjanks. Fromsoft cant design a good game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 13:12:57 2022 No.8973428 >>8973412 You can tell when someone isn't really into mecha.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 13:24:37 2022 No.8973462 >>8963810 I remember being in 6th grade and getting everyone to start calling some douchebag kid Cubix, cause his head was cube shaped.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 13:33:10 2022 No.8973482 >>8972104 Just reskin Quake 2 and enjoy your brand new mech game lol. Enjoy.

Anonymous Fri Jun 3 15:27:45 2022 No.8973726
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>>8973291
Patrician taste.
Has anyone played Remote Control Dandy SF? Seems to be a straight up sequel to the PS1 game.
>>8973412
You have some good points anon, but i do think you have overblown some stuff.
>They're move way too fast yet have the maneuverability of a tractor.
Technically, yes and no. You can improve certain aspects to make your AC perform better on foot, but boosting around is definitely the way *just look at the intros".
>The level design is often too cramped to make up for the poor maneuverability.
I kind of agree with you here, AC3 can get pretty obnoxious at some points because of it. But most AC games give you some pretty decent space to breath.
>You'll end up bunny hopping like a retard rather than taking out enemies systematically and strategically.
Yes, bunny hopping is extremely effective in cramped areas, but you can do just as fine with some strafing, side boosting and slashing, if that's not enough, change your legs to hover legs, that'll help you a little.
>Not to mention the last levels of the first game involve verticality that the controls and camera views aren't designed for.
You're right, that level is awful, like DMC3 levels of platforming awful.
>>8973462
That's fucking hilarious anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 16:48:50 2022 No.8973898 >>8963797 It was alright. I prefer Armored Core, Assault Suits series and Front Mission.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 16:50:28 2022 No.8973904 >>8964605 >Soi wars Lol, fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 16:58:08 2022 No.8973923 File: 25 KB, 600x695, brainrotsimon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8973462 Absolute kek

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 17:11:25 2022 No.8973953 >>8973904 No you

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 17:57:08 2022 No.8974073 File: 33 KB, 864x864, MAN.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8972265 Just found out that a new Front Mission was announced a month ago. >Mobile only. >>8973898 >Assault Suits Gun Hazard and Metal Warrior aside, is there more games like them?

Anonymous Fri Jun 3 19:39:41 2022 No.8974403
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>>8974073
>Gun Hazard and Metal Warrior aside, is there more games like them?

There's Gunhound EX. Originally a PSP game, it also got ported to Steam, though that version got delisted.

https://youtu.be/eQVBxl7q5mM

You might also want to look into Gigantic Army, Steel Strider, and some of the other games by ASTRO PORT & Henteko Doujin.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/278930/GIGANTIC_ARMY/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 3 22:16:48 2022 No.8974794 File: 1.95 MB, 640x480, peace.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8974403 Thanks man! i'll check them out later.

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