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What was the reaction when this controller was revealed?

>> No.8936413 [DELETED] 

>>8936409
It was similar to the reaction my parents had when I revealed my gender to them.

>> No.8936414

>>8936409
>no analogue triggers
>shitty c analogue
>retarded button mapping
wtf were they thinking?

>> No.8936419

>>8936409
Z button feels absolutely horrible. The octagonal box around the stick gets really fucking annoying fast. Also the D-Pad is abysmal. Nintendo hasn't made a comfy controller since the SNES and that one is still worse than the Genesis.

>> No.8936420

>>8936414
>untrue
>debateable
>works really well for games that take advantage of the design
wtf were you thinking posting this? the worst part about this controller is probably the Z button but everything else is pretty good

>> No.8936421

>>8936419
octagonal gate is great, way better than the dualshock

>> No.8936424
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>>8936419
I meant to say other than. Because I'm not going to pretend like the ergonomics on pic rel are any more than dogshit. Nintendo has hands down the worst controller design of any major platform developer.

>> No.8936426

i would fucking hate using an original n64 controller or gamecube, thank goodness emulation allows for xbawks and DS4

>> No.8936427

>>8936424
call me a zoomer but don't understand how the fuck you are meant to hold this unless you have toddler hands

>> No.8936428 [DELETED] 

>>8936420
>>untrue
its true retard, learn the difference between analogue triggers and analogue buttons, and never reply to me you brainded americunt

>> No.8936489

>>8936428
>analog buttons
But the analog triggers have digital buttons that get pressed when the triggers are fully depressed.

>> No.8936496

>>8936489
no

>> No.8936505

>>8936409
I dont remember what the internet said but I loved how comfortable it felt after the n64. And the wavebird was cool.

>> No.8936509

Repulsion. Worst controller ever. I suppose it fits the faggy kid shit aesthetic that the gamecube has.

>> No.8936517

People hated how cheap it felt. People came around to it when Wavebird was released.

>> No.8936591

>>8936489
analogue triggers=/=analogue buttons

>> No.8936596

>>8936409
i kinda miss octagonal gates on analogue sticks.
the dpad was complete ass tho, one of the worst

>> No.8936602

Were there any third party pads with good dpads for the GameCube? I can’t imagine having to play CvS2 on the regular controller.
Besides the dpad and the c-stick I really like this controller, though.

>> No.8936620

>>8936602
you can use a ps2 to gamecube adapter cable

>> No.8936626
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my main thing was the missing L1 button. made for some compromises for games like SSX Tricky

>> No.8936635

>>8936626
the face button layout is horrendous too, gotta love playing tony hawk and it requires you to press B+Y for a trick like what the fuck were they thinking? Emulating with a diamond layout is no loss either. Stupid fucking design that made the controller look more like a fisher price toy than any of its other traits.

>> No.8936650

>>8936428
Do you have to be so angry while also being completely wrong? Jesus.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameCube_controller

>> No.8936661

>>8936591
>I am a child and I've attached myself emotionally to obscure jargon that others don't share

>> No.8936674

The only people that dislike it are mature gamers that want their mature hobby to look adult and not be associated with babies.

>> No.8936680 [DELETED] 

>>8936413
approval and unconditional love

>> No.8936710

It basically cemented nintendo's design philosophy of "our controls need to be different to everyone else's regardless of if its a good idea." People fucking hated it when most multiplatform games felt like ass using it, but its ergonomics and layout were good for games designed specifically with it in mind.

>> No.8936795

>>8936409
despair but also a boner.

>> No.8936816

>>8936409
My impression was that it was a radical departure, that it looked really ergonomic, and I wondered if the odd decisions truly made it better (spoiler: they didn't).

>> No.8936824

Gamecube controller was great
It's only shortcomings were it's poopy D-Pad and the inexplicable lack of a ZL button
But there's a reason Nintendo literally still makes these, even though the face buttons are unorthodox they feel really good to use. If a game makes you press b+x or something then I'd chalk that up to incompetent devs.

>> No.8936826

There are aspects of the controller I don't like, but to this day it is still the most comfortable controller I've ever held. It feels perfect in the hands. I've got small asian hands though

I also really like octogonal stick gates and which they'd make a comeback on modern controllers at least as an option

>> No.8936837

>>8936826
I have large white man hands and I agree with you. I really like the octagonal gate too.
It would be a perfect controller if the c-stick was bigger, there was another Z button and the dpad wasn't just a GBA dpad. And if every game designed to use it took into account the weird face button arrangement, I guess.

>> No.8936841

>>8936409
"This is sooo much better than the N64 controller"

>> No.8936852

>>8936596
I was in a very masochistic mood once and decided to play super mario world with my gamecube controller.
the dpad left deep indents in my thumb. after an hour or so I called it quits and couldn't play games again for the remainder of the day because of the sheer pain.

never again.

>> No.8936860

Looked pretty cool, even to this day I prefer the gamecube controller's face button layouts to normal face layouts, like seen on every modern controller.

>> No.8936864

>>8936661
>I am in so much cope I don't have any arguments

>> No.8936865

>>8936860
also the wave bird was the first wireless controller i had used that wasn't based on infrared or some laggy interface. shit was pretty sweet desu

>> No.8936869

>>8936650
im not wrong retard, gc controllers have analogue buttons, not analogue triggers, why are you nintodlers so retarded?

>> No.8936883

>>8936409
>be me
>huge nintendo fan
>12 years old
>gamecube controller revealed
>wtf that looks retarded, why is the A button so big and the B button so small? Why is there a Z button on one side but not the other?
>new smash bros game looks good
>buy a gamecube, smash bros and mario sunshine
>holy shit this feels amazing

Still think it's the most comfortable controller I have used. Never gotten a hand cramp using it and still use it for my switch with an adapter. XBOX 360 controller (or original XBOX small controller) might be a tie for best feeling controller.

>> No.8936884 [DELETED] 

>>8936413
Love and support

>> No.8936890

>>8936864
That you do.

>> No.8936908

>>8936890
k.

>> No.8937008 [DELETED] 

>>8936413
they switched to playstation and disowned any involvement with nintendo?

>> No.8937093

>>8936409
I just hate the d-pad really.

>> No.8937096

>>8937093
It's funny how 64 had better d-pad and you almost never use it.

>> No.8937103

The first time I tried it was when my friend brought their game cube over with smash brothers and honestly I thought the controller was utter perfection and felt like it was built to play that game. it's still a fantastic controller by today's standards even though the D pad is the worst that Nintendo has ever produced. I think that may have even been intentional though because the D pad was never meant to be used extensively in any game it was more like for small functions that didn't need to be use often

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>>8937008
>playstation, nintendo's ex boyfriend
Yes

>> No.8937148

>>8936419
Octagon gates are kino foh

>> No.8937151

>>8936509
>t. trailer trash that couldn't afford a GC

>> No.8937157

>>8936635
>what the fuck were they thinking?
That you're supposed to play first party games on it and multiplats on other systems, like every Nintendo console after the SNES

>> No.8937183

>>8937151
Never wanted one, i tried a demo console once at a retail store with mario sunshine and i was boggled that mario was transformed into some cleaning game. Some black neighbor kid let me borrow one at the time with Hunter the reckoning and luigis mansion and i was supremely underwhelmed. Faggy mini discs, childs toy control. I don’t understand how you all convince yourselves, unless you it was your first console or something. All prior nintendo consoles are great but not this, nor anything after.

>> No.8937195

It was a controller ahead of it's time and misunderstood by retards. Nintendo should have kept iterating off the base idea and improved upon it while keeping the same general layout, ergonomics and overall design philosophy instead of just reverting to a knock off xbox pad like the switch pro

>> No.8937206 [DELETED] 
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>>8937183
>Black neighbor kid
>Faggy mcfag fag word
>Baby toy
Broken home kids think they're so hardcore and above it at that age. Sorry to hear you were neglected. You fit right in.

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>>8937195
>It was a controller ahead
NOT. SO. FAST.

>> No.8937229

>>8937213
Looks perfect for Tekken.

>> No.8937315

>>8937229
You would think so, but no.
Wonder if anybody has ever tried to mod one of those to actually work on something.

>> No.8937329 [DELETED] 

>>8936428
Go back to /v/ nigger

>> No.8937336

>>8936414
?
Z button aside the triggers are extremely analog with a click at 100%. They're very nice, actually, and it's a goddamn shame Nintendo has abandoned analog triggers since.

>> No.8937347 [DELETED] 

>>8936413
>Wtf is wrong with that stick and why is it that colour?
Ah, so you're FtM. Welcome to the patriarchy.

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>>8937329
why are you faggots so fucking retarded

>> No.8937396

>>8937336
they are not analogue triggers they are analogue buttons you retarded nintondler, do you get that? like the ps2 controller, its analogue buttons not analogue triggers, analogue triggers you can find them on the dc or xbox

>> No.8937420

>>8936414
nobody ever though shit about analogue triggers or c stick. at that time it was just like woah thats crazy looking but really cool. now its easy to pick all its flaws apart

>> No.8937428 [DELETED] 

>>8937420
cringe and gay

>> No.8937619

>>8937396
What is the difference you frankenfaced fuckfurter? What difference does it make if it's a button or a trigger or your mom's clit? They are shoulder buttons at the top of the controller that read the amount pressed in. How is that not a trigger? Is it because it has a button at the bottom of it at 100%? Is that your justification? You're a stupid fucking freak.

>> No.8937623

>>8936409
I thought it looked ridiculous and would be very hard to play fighting games with.

>> No.8937629

>>8936409
Nintendo knew it was shit since DAY 1. They organized a whole showing to explain to people how "it's not as shit as it looks"

>> No.8937638

>>8937396
To compare it to the PS2's shoulder buttons that hardly have any play to them is hugely disingenuous. They go just as deep as the DC's easily.

>> No.8937719 [DELETED] 

>>8937619
geez guys, ket go of the copium

>> No.8937724

>>8937638
but they are buttons, the dc is some optical thing i think, ots not the same
>ps2 gc not the same
yes they are, uts just that the gc has some fancy spring

>> No.8937778 [DELETED] 

>>8936409
Nobody here was old enough to care.

>> No.8937795

>>8936414
Plays Metroid Prime better than anything. Only a board and mouse can beat it.

>> No.8937812

>>8936635
>gotta love playing tony hawk and it requires you to press B+Y for a trick like what the fuck were they thinking
just because the tony hawk devs were retarded doesn't mean the button layout was bad - would you complain if on playstation you had to press cross and triangle together?

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>>8937229
>>8937315
Yes, actually. My sister shared a Tweet with me the other day posted by some guy who did just that.
https://twitter.com/rudeism/status/1521613524656865281

>> No.8937827

>>8937724

Dc controllers actually use hall effect sensors and magnets for both the analog stick and the triggers. In theory theres much fewer parts that can break down as the only thing touching are the plastic and spring components and should last as long as the magnets, its quite accurate too. I'm kinda of suprised it didn't catch on with other devs just for the durability factor.

>>8936869
I think you're arguing semantics, the shoulder BUTTONS in place of the TRIGGERS are analog. There.

>> No.8937832

>>8937825
Well all be damned it actually does work for Tekken.

>> No.8937857

>>8937825
It aint' shit until I see some korean backdashes

>> No.8937859

>>8937857
Put that thing in my hands and give me like half an hour.

>> No.8937861 [DELETED] 

>>8936413
The doctor did that

>> No.8937869

>>8936427
pointer fingers wrap around the upper corners and use your thumbs for the actual gaming, do whatever with the rest of your fingers

>> No.8937871

>>8936409
It was a good controller. It just needed another shoulder button and the wavebird's shape was better.

>> No.8937874

>>8937827
It's not surprising. No one copied the DC because it was a failure, and the controller had several issues that made people overlook the quality analog parts
>bad pad
>not enough buttons and sticks for '99
>front-cord
>fuckin VMUs

>> No.8937894

>>8937874
>No one copied the DC
xbox did
>front chord
not a problem
>vmus
whats the problem with vmus?

>> No.8937895

>>8937874
>>not enough buttons and sticks for '99
also thats a retarded argument because they released the mouse and keyboard

>> No.8937920

>>8937812
>would you complain if on playstation you had to press cross and triangle together?
literally not a problem and they do require this, the gamecube pad is just an awful fit for it.

>> No.8937934

>>8937894
>the xbox copied maymay
In what meaningful ways, outside of being a Sega dev refugee camp, did it copy the DC? Every real 6th gen machine had online play. The controller was 2 stick. It didn't rely on gimmicky memory cards. How? I know this is a thing people like to say, but did it? Did it...?
>the cord
it is stupid and wasteful design that pinches the cord
>VMUs
Relatively expensive to buy and produce, very
little actual memory, can't use the memescreen in the dark, what's the point of it attaching itself to the controller instead of the console? Nothing was actually fun on it, so the mini-handheld thing was pointless and underutilized. What was the point of controller expansion ports at all? If they knew it needed rumble, why didn't they include it? To offload more costs to you? I guess maybe portable player ID is one VMU excuse, but meh... it's just overdesigned with no payoff
>>8937895
Wow that's one smelly stinky shitpost you dropped there, grats.

>> No.8937956
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>>8937934
>In what meaningful ways, outside of being a Sega dev refugee camp, did it copy the DC? Every real 6th gen machine had online play. The controller was 2 stick. It didn't rely on gimmicky memory cards. How? I know this is a thing people like to say, but did it? Did it...?
the controller looks like the dc one and the xbox has nice res, just like the dc
>chord
still not a problem to me
>vmu
the vmu is great, neat piece of tech with fun mini games
>muh no space
they made a vmu with more space
>why ports on the controller
for rumble and mic, because the dc was going to be an online console
>shitpost
kys, you play fps with keyboard and mouse, not with a controller you zoomer

>> No.8937963 [DELETED] 

>>8937956
You play FPS with a computer.
>voice and gameplay data over dialup
laffin, it barely handled the latter
>ports
rumble should have been bundled, the mic was as one-off and gimmicky as it gets
>vmu's good because... because it's just neat, okay?? doesn't matter if it was superfluous and useless, I just think it's kewl
XD

>> No.8937971

>>8937963
>You play FPS with a computer.
that's why quake 3 on dc has more polygons
>xD
cringe and gay, vmu is cool, as I already told you, fun mini games and you can transfer data with another vmu, and other things, stop being cringe and gay

>> No.8937972

>>8937956
>>8937963
and before you drop another turd about ethernet; it dropped just as the console died no one but the most privileged of city-burgers had broadband at the time.

>> No.8937982

>>8937956
>nice res
? see me after class, apply yourself. Only the PS2 was commonly sub-480p in the 6th gen anyway.

>> No.8937987

>>8937972
phantasy star online was cool too

>> No.8937996
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>>8937982
the gc was shitty, the only consoles with great res were the dc (with vga, and it looks great) and the xbox, the rest, garbage

>> No.8938003

>>8937996
The non-Xbox versions weren't even the same fucking game.

>> No.8938010

>>8938003
you cry more

>> No.8938013

>>8937389
>does the same job with different parts
>IT'S A BUTTON. REEE, REEEEEEEEEEEEE
This might be THE most autistic gripe I've ever goddamn seen. It's an analog trigger in all but the faintest technicality you poindexter prick.

>> No.8938019

>>8938013
>>does the same job with different parts
not at all you faggot, dc triggers have nothing in common with the shit analogue buttons of the gaycube, dc triggers are responsive and accurate, while the gaycibe ones are not accurate and not very responsive, cope

>> No.8938024

>>8937996
how the fuck does the Wii one look worse than the PS2 shot?

>> No.8938025

>>8936424
Inferior dogshit as revenge for hiroshima on the west. Embrace superior rounded edge famicom controller.

>> No.8938027

>>8938024
shitty console

>> No.8938031

>>8938019
Maybe? I don't doubt the resolution and reliability is higher, but it's still the finest hair split I've seen in a LONG fucking time and I frequent display and retro PC threads.

>> No.8938034

>General feel is quite comfortable
>octogate stick still holds up
>face button layout remains a genuinely good alternative and makes multiple button presses more comfortable
>cstick is just fine
>dpad is one of Nintendo's worst and only good for single button press menu selections
>triggers have too much travel and the second action "click"takes too much force
>z button feels tacked on, kinda mushy and I often forget it's there
Overall quite good, but it's almost like Nintendo hit a wall and obsessed about things that didn't need obsessing over. A controller that is greater than the sum of its parts.

>> No.8938038

>>8937996
>the gc was shitty
>posts comparision shots of shit multiplat ports where the devs were publisher encouraged to cut corners to meet deadlines.
Not this again.

>> No.8938040

>>8938031
the gc buttons just can't compete with the dc triggers, its night and day

>> No.8938043 [DELETED] 

>>8938038
the gc is actually shitty if you compare it with the xbox, everybody knows this, except for nintondlers

>> No.8938061

>>8938043
>the gc is actually shitty if you compare it with the xbox, everybody knows this, except for nintondlers
We're not on the schoolyard and it's not 2002 anymore. Take your meds anon.
>Duke Controller
Absolutely awful
>S controller
Quite good, but then again not very impressive considering it was the last designed controller of that gen and MS had the benefit of taking the DC controller and making obvious improvements from there.

>> No.8938068

>>8938061
cope harder
and the duke controller is pretty good

>> No.8938083

>>8936409
it didn't have a hard act to follow.

>> No.8938208

>>8938068
cope

>> No.8938214

>>8938068
>>8938208
arrest yourselves and go to sleep

>> No.8938282

>>8937389
As an autist has torn down a virtual console controller I just want to let you know it's the same type of trigger.

>> No.8938351

>>8936837
>>8936826
As an even bigger Black gentleman, I prefer the Duke.
Ps.
>small asian hands

May I kiss them?

>> No.8938375

>>8936860
How would the Gamecube place six face buttons with that same design philosophy?

>> No.8938413

>>8938282
not at all, but since you said you were an autist I don't blame you

>> No.8938457

>>8937825
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1653355624449.webm

Here boss.

>> No.8938509
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>>8938375
Probably something like this.

>> No.8938532 [DELETED] 

>>8936413
They beat the shit out of you with a GC controller? Those things leave welts.

>> No.8938554
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8938554

>>8938509
>>8938375
Or these.

>> No.8938582
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8938582

>>8938554
Alternatively

>> No.8938584

>>8938554
>>8938582
Perverse

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>>8938554
>>8938582

>> No.8938607

>>8938040
DC uses hall effect sensors and not a potentiometer, therefore is technically not a trigger.

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>>8938589
>>8938584
That'sa nothing... WAHOO

>> No.8938625

>>8938509
That's a big 'A'...

>> No.8938628

>>8938625
A not to scale. Nintendo did not hire this man

>> No.8938629

>>8938619
AHHHHHHHHHHH

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8938640

>>8938554
>>8938582
Kinda reminds me of the Wonderswan.

>> No.8938647

>>8938554
The right one is fine. A little of Nintendo design combined with more symmetrical adjacent button philosophy like the diamond formation.

>> No.8938649 [DELETED] 

>>8938532
Good old wired controllers are the best. Nice and reliable and durable.
Not like the tranny ones with no cable.

>> No.8938665

I stopped caring about Nintendo consoles and games by that point.
>huge A button
>tiny B button
>I don't know what they fuck they were thinking with those X and Y buttons
>why is the dpad smaller and worse feeling than on the NES
>wanna press L and R? no fuck you, here's mashed potatoes
>yellow lego stick
It's like they hired a retard to design it.

>> No.8938676

>>8936409
I liked it but I’m a weird outlier. I think the N64 is alright but adore the GameCube. I was always sort of indifferent to the PS2 but love the PS3.

>> No.8938889

>>8937619
Analogue would mean the system reads a 0%-100% reading. If you press the trigger down halfway it will read 50%. As soon as you press the trigger on the GameCube it reads "Soft press" and if you press it all the way until it clicks you get "full press". These can be thought of as two digital buttons. In smash brothers the soft press and full press are the same for shielding. In Super Mario Sunshine the soft press activates your water sprayer without locking your movement. Full press (click) locks your movement.

The throttle pedal in your car is an analogue input because you can slowly increase the value. Using a button in a racing game for throttle pedal is a digital input. The gamecube shoulder button would not work for a throttle pedal input. At best it could be mapped to 50% and 100% but a true analogue trigger would give you 64% throttle etc...

>> No.8938964

Genesis 6 buttons controller remain the best, SNES comes second. Everything analogue and released after is gay.

>> No.8939363

>>8938509
Would be better if Y was also same size as B and C with B and C moved higher up.

Or probably even better they can just do what NEC or Sega did and it would actually fit on the GC controller.

>> No.8939798

>>8938607
k., still a trigger to me

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>>8938889
You absolute brainlet, there's a linear sliding potentiometer in the gamecube trigger and a digital button at the end of it. You're gonna try to tell me that pic related is a digital button? How fucking stupid are you?

>> No.8939936

>>8936409
"Oh look, dolphin's controller. I wonder what kind of games they'll announce?"

>> No.8939940 [DELETED] 

>>8936413
You didn't reveal any gender, it was the doctor. Now, if you talk about the bullshit drama you created around your headcanon where you are a lady, then nobody cares

>> No.8939954

>>8938889
>In smash brothers the soft press and full press are the same for shielding.
have you never played melee? seriously, light shielding is an analog action. the more you press down the trigger, the "heavier" (smaller, tougher) your shield becomes.

>> No.8940025

>>8936409
Well we were comparing it to the n64 which was what we had at the time and generally thought "looks like what n64 maybe should have, without the 3rd handle " (which was there because Nintendo were unsure about 3D and so gave you the option to play as 2D with a D Pad).
On the GC the D Pad is relegated to menus basically; it still odd why the PS still has the D Pad front and center and the stick out of place.

Back to the GC pad:
The C Stick was seen as an improvement on the C Buttons, but perhaps the GC sticks shouldn't have been in 8 directional octagonal bays, which make going back to somegames a bit weird (Monkey Ball, sports games etc).

Remember when it was first launched, A was blue and B was green (just like N64) and B was curved like X and Y. So it was really like an updated n64 pad.

When we got it, everyone commented how comfy it was. The shoulder buttons had a satisfying click, but tended to wear out over time.

The idea its a bad controller is total retrospective whitewashing usually by people who never owned or played one; at the time, all my PS and Xbox mates would go on and on about how much comfier the GC pad was. Until the Xbox Small pad came out. We all agreed that was a great pad.

>> No.8940032

>>8936517
Not really, Wavebird was a bit of a gimmick at the time as batteries put people off (batteries were way more expensive in the early 00s, whereas now consumer electronics are cheaply available at discount shops).

I was going to add about the controller, people quesitoned why there was only one Z button. But this didn't impact on gameplay and may have been seen as copying Sony's R1 and R2.

>> No.8940041

>>8940032
Also, wavebird had no rumble

>> No.8940734
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8940734

>Gaycube controller
Packed with a zelda themed dildo with in-built speaker that output noises made by link (oot) character
Ready for your children to embark in new adventures.

>> No.8941220

>>8940032
>batteries were way more expensive in the early 00s

lol no they weren’t

>> No.8941258

If you were just coming from the N64, it was a much needed improvement, and worked well enough for the games on the system.

If you had been exposed to a PS2 controller though, you'd feel like you got the short end of the stick. Then you'd also wonder why the cube had minidiscs and no DVD player. You would really start to wonder why on earth you bought this piece of shit. Was it for the next Mario? nah, that turned out to be mediocre. Zelda? Wind Waker was a straight downgrade from OOT/MM.... what the FUCK. Melee is the only thing that made this shitbox relevant

>> No.8941315

>>8941258
Man I'm glad I'm not miserable

>> No.8941420
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8941420

>>8936409
It looked like something a toddler would play with, which definitely didn't help Nintendo fans who were constantly trying to insist their console wasn't kiddy.

>> No.8941439

>>8937151
no one cares about your gay ass pedophile party game cubie

>> No.8941462

>>8936824
>But there's a reason Nintendo literally still makes these
Yeah, because Smash autists refuse to use anything else.

>> No.8941495

>>8941462
To be fair Smash really does just feel better with a gamecube controller. A big reason is the octagonal stick

>> No.8941503

>>8941420
it's eerie just how much that thing looks like a GC controller.
like, it HAS to be intentional. just take a look at that purple shoulder button. it's practically the same as the Z-button on the gamecube controller.

>> No.8941515

>>8941420
Did your mother give that to you?!?

>> No.8941516

>>8941503
the toy designer probably had a gamecube in his college dorm when he was younger

>> No.8941558

>>8936409
>Cool, they made the N64 controller easier to hold

>> No.8942001

>>8940025
You need more nuanced control over dpad movements though, when it is used. The analogues are mostly used at a distance from their pivot point. You have to press deeper into a d pad.

>> No.8942041

>>8941515
No, she gave me a Tide pod capsule.

>> No.8942202

>>8936409
Less weird than the N64 controller.

>> No.8942345

Like your mother it was immediately fingered

>> No.8942427

>>8938889
>In smash brothers the soft press and full press are the same for shielding.

Imagine being this confidently incorrect

>> No.8943654

>>8938889
>"full press"
You mean full half press

>>8941220
Imagine being too young to remember the early 00's

>> No.8943776

>>8938889
bait

>> No.8945621

>>8936883
I had a similar experience. I remember getting a Gamecube and Mario Sunshine on Christmas and my brother and I basically came while holding the controller for the first time, especially on the back of the N64 (which itself isn't as bad as people say desu)

>> No.8945627

>>8936409
It looks like a Metroid. Fuck you if you can't see it, you are blind.

>> No.8945656

>>8936409
I personally thought it was pretty stupid at the time. It's grown on me though.

>> No.8945676

>>8943654
I can almost guarantee I’m older than you. The Wavebird used AA batteries and they were no more or less expensive than they are now adjusted for inflation. What are you talking about?

>> No.8945680

Welcome to the reason 30 year old smash players have arthritis

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8945692

>>8945621
>my brother and I basically came while holding the controller for the first time, especially on the back of the N64 (which itself isn't as bad as people say desu)


:

>> No.8945702

>>8945676
not him but I might actually agree. I remember as a kid the batteries were like 7.99 for 4 AAs. nowadays you can get 8 at the dollar store for $1 and Walmart and other places usually charge like 3 bucks for 4.

>> No.8945714

>>8936419
The Switch pro controller is ok

>> No.8945720

>>8945714
Yeah, that anon is being hyperbolic. All the Pro controllers starting with the Wii are very good.

>> No.8945967

Confused at first, but tried at a target and it was comfy as fuck and I knew GameCube would be based

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8945996

I had no strong feelings one way or the other!

>> No.8946060

>>8936409
Deep relief

>> No.8946063

>>8938889
Why did he even think this was the case? What would have been the entire point of building such deep analog triggers if this were true?

>> No.8946143

>>8945676
>I can almost go potty on my own
Your mommies must be so proud
>The Wavebird used AA batteries
Hilarious how you imagine there is only one type of those. And that the prices are the same. Coped for inflation. According to calculations you pulled out of the poopoo in your diaper.
FYI, wavebirds work great with high capacity lithium batteries. And these cost 1/2-1/3 what they did 20 years ago. What's that "adjusted for inflation" kiddo?

>> No.8946473
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8946473

>>8936409
Good analog stick wasted on a mismatch clusterfuck of a controller built from leftover virtualboy parts.
>tiny uncomfortable GBA d-pad & c-stick dangling out of reach
>tiny start button & B button
>HUGE ass oversized A button for no reason
>Awkward X, Y bean button placement
>Awkward huge cheap triggers & only 1 Z bumper you forget exists
>Feels somewhat ergonomic in design but button placement is retarded
Only hori could make a worse designed controller.

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8946478

>>8946473
>ruin prefectly good snes button layout
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING

>> No.8946480

>>8946478
I could never afford this overpriced piece of nintendo shit anyway.

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8946509

>>8936414
>no analogue triggers
Why are you retarded?

>> No.8946817

>>8937213
at least it has good looking d-pad..

>> No.8949195

>>8936419
You’re a fucking retard if you think that the snes controller feels better than the GameCube controller. the GameCube controller feels better than the ps2 controller, even though the ps2 controller if properly mapped in a game would most likely be superior.

you need to also understand back during the ps2 days lots of companies were making full retard control schemes even with the DualShock having everything it needed.

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8949215

>>8946143

>> No.8949219

>>8936421
The octagonal gate and general feel of the stick are the only things the controller has going for it.

>> No.8949253

>>8937213
I think having the fact buttons be different shapes like that is unironically a good idea.

>> No.8949258

>plebs can't comprehend the superior button layout
lol

>> No.8949546

>>8949195
>full retard
Yeah I hate original games that have control schemes made specifically for them and I had to discover everything on my own. I much prefer modern games where everything plays the same and it doesn't take me longer than 5 seconds after starting a new game to feel like I've played it already.

>> No.8951313

>>8936409
>looks like it's for children and children only
>close enough to a dual shock
>comfy af when you actually try it
in that order

>> No.8951876

>>8936409
no idea but it always triggered me and definitely added to the idea that Gamecube was for children

>> No.8952116

>>8949546
What are you even trying to say? Are you having a stroke?

>> No.8952381

>>8938509
>>8938554
>>8938582
>>8938619
>>8938640
Autism.

>> No.8952443

>>8937825
fucking based

>> No.8952471

>>8938625
for you

>> No.8952501

No extra nub for masturbation. 0/10. Sure hope the next one is a wand of some sort!

>> No.8953010

>>8939798
NO IT ISN'T
call the DC shoulder paddle sensors by their real name and never call them triggers again

>> No.8953431

>>8938607
>words mean what i say they mean
lol. no.

>> No.8953580

"Looks like a Bop-It"

>> No.8953585

Why the fuck did they only put one extra shoulder button on it, and why is the A button so huge?

>> No.8953598

it is still the greatest controller of all time
don't bother Youing me

>> No.8953815

The dpad is the exact same as the GBA dpad, the problem wasn't the dpad itself, it was it's placement on the controller

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8955398

>>8939363
Like this?

>> No.8955528

>>8953815
I think it’s both. A d-pad of that size is understandable on a handheld, but it’s way too small for a console controller.

>> No.8955661

>>8946509
Why did it take 3 replies for this.

>> No.8955702

I still like the ABXY button layout.

>> No.8955726

>>8937396
stop posting

>> No.8955734
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8955734

>>8936409

>> No.8955742

>>8936409
Were people honestly confused by the GC controller at the time? It was very clearly just an evolution of the N64 controller.

>> No.8955750

I remember being in a kind of disbelief. And that was a reasonable reaction because there were constant fake leaks back then and things were pretty hard to verify. But I also think the general reaction was that Nintendo had given in to 2nd tier status in the console wars. They really had 2 choices at the time: they could compete for the "hardcore gamer" audience by releasing an xbox controller clone, OR they could double down on the n64 controller approach of controllers that traded function for novelty. They chose the second option and in so doing gave up on a certain aspect of the console wars (particularly in combination with the budget performance of the GameCube console). I don't think they've ever really recovered that hardcore console gaming market. They've continued to chart a very different approach to marketing and selling consoles. So in a way, this controller signalled a total shift. People at the time could kind of sense them. So Nintendo fanboys were excited (as always), but there were definitely some people who saw it as surrender and were disappointed.

>> No.8955752

>>8936409
I've always thought it looked terrible. The last good controller nintendo made was the SNES.

>> No.8955760

>>8955750
>the n64 controller approach of controllers that traded function for novelty.

I wouldn’t say the N64 controller was a novelty. It’s more like Nintendo designed it completely around their own first party games with third party stuff as an afterthought.

>> No.8955773

>>8955760
Yeah, the fact that the controller made it harder to port games was definitely a big issue. But the N64 controller was certainly either a novelty or an innovation -- just a matter of word choice I guess. I mean, the inclusion of a thumb-controlled analog stick in a handheld controller was a big innovation. Really heralded the transition from 2d to 3d.

And I know someone's going to say "well wait look at this controller that came before that had a thumb stick and an index finger trigger" and to you I say.... I don't care about whatever random controller you post I've never seen before. This is the one that mattered.

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8955974

>>8955398
Looks a bit like a paw...

>> No.8955990

>>8955750
Budget performance? The GameCube was probably nintendos best console. it felt unique, the controller felt good to play, and the visuals looked twice as good as any ps2 game. Metroid prime to this day looks amazing, and looks better than any first person shooter on the PlayStation 2. you can say what you want about what controller you prefer, but a GameCube controller feels better than a PlayStation controller.

>> No.8956002

>>8955990
>but a GameCube controller feels better than a PlayStation controller.
subjective.
and also about graphics,prime mostly looks good thanks to its art direction,and i wouldnt say the games look twice as good when the PS2 got games like silent hill 3,MGS 3 and burnout takedown.

>> No.8956092

>>8956002
the GameCube controller has more rounded areas that match the contours of a hand especially the triggers. the don’t controller is too small, and also weirdly angular. I don’t understand how anyone can think it feels better. the GameCube controllers shape is more ergonomic. I don’t think it’s subjective at all. The difference Between something small cramped and angular to something slightly larger, rounder, with triggers that cup your fingers, seems objective to me.

Luigi’s mansion looks better than many games on the PlayStation and to my knowledge it is a launch title. rogue squadron also looked impressive and is a different genre.

>> No.8956683

>>8956092
>Luigi’s mansion looks better than many games on the PlayStation and to my knowledge it is a launch title. rogue squadron also looked impressive and is a different genre.
again i mostly feel like you are saying this thanks only to the art direction because luigi mansion doesnt really look far better than the games i mention and you even say it looks better than many games on the console but that doesnt matter you dont compare random games to say wich consoles is better you compare the best looking games on the console.
also silent hill 2 is also a PS2 lauch title and look very good,better than a lot of gamecube games too.

>> No.8956696

>>8936409
Everyone was just like "Huh, cool" because all controllers hadn't turned into Dualshock-derivative shitfests yet.

One might ever say, they had, soul.

>> No.8957065

>>8956683
Silent Hill 2 wasn’t a launch title.

>> No.8957261

>>8955398
Actually yeah although Z should probably be a bit smaller to not get in the way. Maybe make both Y and Z smaller actually.

>> No.8957269

>>8938889
Each trigger is effectively two buttons in one
An anologue trigger and a digital input

>> No.8957347

>>8936517
Cheap? It's a very solid pad. Plus it's very ergonomic.

>> No.8957483

>>8936517
Cheap?
I always felt it was solid
Cheap is how the DualShock 2 felt, especially after how solid the PSOne controllers are