/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8564932]

Emulation or Physical copies?

Emulation for me all the way. Paying ridiculous prices for degrading physical old media is absurd.

[Anonymous No.8564939]

Yeah sure, when you post one of the most expensive games that nobody wants to play to begin with outside of hipsters it does seem absurd. Most games worth playing cost less than modern retail games though.

[Anonymous No.8564978]

>>8564932
>Emulation or Physical copies?
Neither.

[Anonymous No.8564979]

>>8564932
cope

[Anonymous No.8564987]

>>8564932
Both, plus flashcarts. I like using original hardware and looking at packaging and manuals, but I'm not averse to emulation either.

[Anonymous No.8565002]

It's sad to me that poor people will never know comfy it is to curl up in your pajamas, get a bowl of your favorite cereal and a glass of choccy milk, and pop Super Mario World into your Super Nintendo on your CRT TV decorated with awesome Nintendo Power stickers

[Anonymous No.8565015]

>>8565002
You're literally picture related.

[Anonymous No.8565023]

>>8564978
>>8564932
technically hard drives and flash memory are both physical copies

[Anonymous No.8565036]

>>8565015
It's the Mason jar ashtray that makes me lol here

[Anonymous No.8565042]

>>8565015
I’d respect this more if he was smiling crack

[Anonymous No.8565043]

I emulate games that I physically own. Emulation is too convenient. I get a break, working from home, and I can hop into a PS1 game right where I left off.

[Anonymous No.8565046]

>>8565015
>small twist
that's a fucking gigantic bowl to smoke to yourself, let alone first thing in the morning with a bowl of fruit loops and presumably a cig or two. christ.

[Anonymous No.8565047]

>>8565002
You're not going to convince me by mentioning shitendo.

[Anonymous No.8565051]

You have a few options.
>the dirt poor third-worlder/living in a closet
Emulate on current device. Get a controller to plug in over USB, and spend a great deal of time learning about runahead, scanlines, filters, and if you wanna go 5th gen and up you will spend time learning about plugins and configurations to get single games working properly. Cost: (whatever you are currently posting on)+PS3/PS4/XboxOne/Xbox360/PC controller. You can skip on the controller if you don't mind using touch-screen or keyboard interface for games.
>the kool-aid emulator
Get a Mister setup with a controller, plug it into your HDTV, spend days downloading complete romsets for platforms you'll probably never play, spend most of your time screaming on 4chan at people who own real hardware "Here's my collection!" while posting a picture showing you've never plugged it in and used it. Cost: A few hundred, your pride and dignity.
>the old collector
Keep buying games for the consoles you already have. Spend time getting scammed and having to demand refunds when people pass you a repro, and watching the prices of the games you still want and don't have get higher and higher. Don't sell your collection for flashcarts/ODE's since this was plastic you had as a child. Cost: $10-60 per game or more, expected to grow higher over time.
>the e-celeb RETRO FAN
Run out and buy whatever game your favorite e-celeb mentions next. You don't actually have to play it, you just need to talk about your favorite e-celeb all the time. Prices of the games you want seem to go up right before you decide you want them. Cost: Who fucking cares, people like you deserve to suffer.
>the retro refugee
Get flash-carts or optical drive emulators for the consoles you own. Buy consoles you don't own, and controllers and special controllers. Learn about having correct rom dumps, and how chink clones can fuck you over. Cost: $50-$250 per flash-cart or ODE.

[Anonymous No.8565052]

>>8565002
poor people can do all of those things, though.

[Anonymous No.8565053]

>>8564932
Emulation is the future of retro gaming regardless of the numerous advantages its offers over original hardware. Whether its hardware or software emulation sooner rather than later everyone will hop on in the emulation boat as we watch the original hardware boat sink further beneath the surface until the only ones left struggle to stay afloat and eventually die out.

[Anonymous No.8565059]

>>8565015
Ah, now I can finally relate to this. An upvote for you kind stranger

[Anonymous No.8565060]

>>8565059
Based snow eater

[Anonymous No.8565081]

>>8564939
Little Samson is great. Got a copy maybe 7 or 8 years ago. I can't recall for how much I bought it, but I'm fairly certain it wasn't above $200.

[Anonymous No.8565082]

>>8565015
funnier without the sperg essay at the bottom

[Anonymous No.8565084]

>>8565052
poor people can't get original hardware or CRTs because other poor people horde them thinking they can sell them and become rich people

[Anonymous No.8565087]

>>8565082
agreed.
>>8565084
eh, most of the poor people I've met never got rid of their CRTs and still have their old consoles. I'm moving the goalposts a little bit here but Wiis also really aren't hard to get ahold of and you can get a completely authentic SMW experience from one of those too.

[Anonymous No.8565117]

>>8565051
You've left out the richfag/high-tier emulation set-up of a gaming-tier desktop PC connected to a CRT + high-quality /vr/ suited modern controllers like Hori Fighting Commander or M30 + arcade sticks / light guns / racing wheels / etc.

There's also all the people who play games online through services like Fightcade. That's also emulation.

[Anonymous No.8565134]

>>8565117
>high-tier
>emulation
lol

[Anonymous No.8565147]

>>8565134
>gets less input lag than the baked in lag present in the actual console with Runahead
Yeah, that's gonna be a yes from me.

[Anonymous No.8565159]

>>8565147
um, the developer didn't intend for that input lag to be circumvented, sweatie

[Anonymous No.8565160]

>>8565147
That's called cheating.

[Anonymous No.8565163]

>>8564932
Outrageously expensive in some cases, yes, but
>degrading
this is a meme

[Anonymous No.8565168]

>>8565147
Your emulator cycle my be faster, but you still need to add the lag from USB, OS, display.
>bur my favorite youtuber knows best

[Anonymous No.8565169]

>>8565147
>using retroarch

[Anonymous No.8565170]

>>8565051
>You can skip on the controller if you don't mind using touch-screen
>plastic
Ask me how I know you’re a zoomer.

[Anonymous No.8565174]

>>8565169
There are standalone emulators that have runahead. Mesen is one.

[Anonymous No.8565175]

>>8565169
I can't get into it either. It's just so much more cumbersome than using standalone emulators to me, even when I hook my PC up to my TV

[Anonymous No.8565178]

>>8565170
How do you know?

[Anonymous No.8565179]

>>8565170
Kinda like an oomerposter?

[Anonymous No.8565182]

Mix of all for me.

Everdrives for the consoles I have. Emulation for everything else. Pokemon games are the only real carts I have so I can play Pokemon Stadium with hand raised Pokemon.
I'd also like to get some of the games I had as a kid but i'm in no shape to do that financially just yet.

[Anonymous No.8565185]

>>8565179
You're doing god's work.

[Anonymous No.8565190]

>>8565002
Omg touch boob chud

[Anonymous No.8565192]

>>8564932
I would get physical copies, if the internet hadn't ruined it like in your pic.

[Anonymous No.8565196]

>>8565179
This is cringe every time you post it.

[Anonymous No.8565198]

>>8565196
Kinda like an oomerposter?

[Anonymous No.8565203]

>>8564932
Emulation for everything before 6th gen, physical with flashcarts/softmods/etc. for everything after that.

[Anonymous No.8565208]

>>8565198
t. zoomer

[Anonymous No.8565210]

>>8565208
Kinda like an oomerposter?

[Anonymous No.8565213]

>>8564932
Phyiscal copies any time it's reasonable.

In theory I'll emulate otherwise, but I haven't actually emulated anything since I played Rusty like five years ago. There are still so many great games for most systems under $20, so I usually just play those.

I dunno if this is an ADHD thing or what but unless I really get a wild hair to play something specific, I never finish or get very far in games that I have digitally, legal or otherwise. Buying a new game with the intent to play it I guess is exciting or something and that tends to make me stick with it a while, and then I also feel a drive to play through all the games I actually physically own which gets me to finish them. I just don't feel this drive when I'm looking at a list of ROMs unless I have some other reason to play through them. For example, in the past I've successfully finished a bunch of FF roms because I wanted to get totally caught up on the series when Dissidia came out.

Nothing wrong with emulation, I just don't enjoy it the same. I have been on a huge ocean kick though, and I'll probably emulate Aquanaut's Holiday PS3 when it gets more stable because fuck paying $400 for a subbed version

>degrading physical old media
>degrading
Fuck off with your meme though

[Anonymous No.8565218]

>>8565210
seething

[Anonymous No.8565220]

>>8565218
Kinda like an oomerposter?

[Anonymous No.8565223]

>>8565015
cringe rant
>Ah my satisfactory brain chemicals are the real ones
Like the OP is still a hideous manchild and should get his shit together rather than being proud about eating garbage breakfast cereal but the 4chan post is even worse

[Anonymous No.8565225]

>>8565179
>kinda
Zoom zoom zoom!

[Anonymous No.8565226]

>>8565225
Kinda like an oomerposter?

[Anonymous No.8565231]

>>8565226
*farts in your mouth and lets out a little bit of poop*

[Anonymous No.8565232]

>>8565231
I acknowledge your admission of acquiescence.

[Anonymous No.8565235]

Really great high quality posting going on here

[Anonymous No.8565236]

>>8565015
the anon writing out that screed is actually more embarrassing than the guy smoking a bowl enjoying cartoons.

[Anonymous No.8565237]

>>8565231
That's freaking gross.

[Anonymous No.8565239]

>>8565232
I acknowledge my cock in your mom’s ass

[Anonymous No.8565258]

>>8565169
>it's popular so I don't like it!

[Anonymous No.8565260]

>>8565258
It's more like
>it has the worst UI of all time and is barely functional so don't like it

[Anonymous No.8565262]

>>8565134
>t. retarded coomlector

[Anonymous No.8565268]

>>8565260
>>it has the worst UI of all time
another brainlet filtered

[Anonymous No.8565272]

>>8565232
nice made up words zoomer

[Anonymous No.8565273]

>>8565272
Kinda like an oomerposter?

[Anonymous No.8565274]

>>8565268
Just rebinding controls is so many shitty nested menus and saving the settings is done with a mess of config files and other garbage. It's just the absolute worst thing I've ever experienced on a computer.

[Anonymous No.8565276]

>>8565262
you have not played any of the videogames you simulate. you are playing adulterated fanfiction versions of those games.

[Anonymous No.8565278]

This board, and /vr/ in general, has a severe gearfag problem. To the point that there are really two different hobbies going on. People who love reading about and setting up /vr/ gear, and people who enjoy playing retro video games.

There are people on this very board who will spend hours setting up and calibrating a CRT, modding a system for RGB output, spend $$$ for cables and converters, spend $$$ for original boxed or even sealed copies of games, and then when all is finally set-up they'll play the game for 15 minute before going back to the internet to search for the next gadget to "research".

[Anonymous No.8565279]

>>8565278
mucho texto

[Anonymous No.8565282]

>>8565276
The thing is I have. For thousands of hours. That's how I know that the difference is placebo/irrelevant tier in 99% of the cases.

[Anonymous No.8565295]

>>8565278
I dunno that I believe that. I think you're projecting what you like to be true onto that group so you can feel smug. Partially because I don't know where you'd get the information about them dropping the games quickly if they weren't volunteering it, which I suspect they're not.

I could be wrong, but the only guy I know IRL who has PVMs spends all day every day playing old games

[Anonymous No.8565296]

>>8565117
>moneybags emulator
Spend a lot of money on a PC to run old games, spend lots of money on racing wheels and joysticks, spend most of your time trying to figure out how to get the range and dead-zones setup properly for nearly every game you play, while playing the scanline/filter/plugin game. Post on 4chan /vr/ about how your emulator setup is actually BETTER than real hardware, despite having funky controls that don't act exactly like the real thing or using runahead to get lower lag than real hardware making the games easier. Cost: $1000+time+brain cells.
>best video cultist
Hunt down a PVM or modify a consumer TV to take in RGB signal. Learn all about RGB signal and sync, get RGB/SCART cables for all your consoles, modify consoles to output RGB or cleaner signal, spend hours fucking around with geometry trying to get a perfectly square screen without any visual warping. Start spending hours hunting down even better quality CRT's in a never-ending quest for the best video signal in existence. Eventually kill yourself by accidentally touching the big cap on a CRT while messing around with convergence strips. Cost: Hundreds for the first PVM, eventually your soul.
Fixed since I forgot about the video signal cultists.

[Anonymous No.8565305]

It's funny that this hobby is basically in an eternal ideological tug of war between two factions of collectors: those what want price go up so they can retain value, and those who want price go down so they can afford to buy games again, and they love to scream and shout at each other

[Anonymous No.8565317]

>>8565282
So sad that you wasted thousands of hours playing fake video games. At least you didn't have to spend any money to do it. Other than the devs' money that you stole, that is.

[Anonymous No.8565387]

>>8565159
who gives a shit about the fucking devs? they're probably fucking dead.

[Anonymous No.8565575]

Chinese emulation boxes where they do that thing where you buy one device and it's loaded up with like 200 roms

[Anonymous No.8565576]

>>8565002
Grow up

[Anonymous No.8565773]

>>8565278
true.
its the same with emulation, people will spend lots of money on gimmicky devices, spend days downloading an entire catalogue of a consoles library and then spend potnetially hours fine tuning an emulator for a specific game.
then they get tired of the game after an hour, play another one for 10 minutes then feel overwhelmed by choice and play their modern consoles instead because they now have 500 SNES games on their hard drive.

[Anonymous No.8565812]

>>8564932
Flashcarts and buying games on piratebay.

[Anonymous No.8567951]

>>8565296
This unironically

[Anonymous No.8569579]

>>8564932
Yeah, I wouldnt want to shill out thousands for games like Little Samson too.

Good that 90% of worth while games dont cost that much.

[Anonymous No.8569636]

>>8565023
Technically everything is physical

[Anonymous No.8569642]

>>8565082
>>8565223
>>8565236
>>8565087
A little too close for comfort, eh?

[Anonymous No.8569643]

I emulate and I also use flashcarts. I only have a few legit carts and discs from back in the day - I don't collect them.

[Anonymous No.8569875]

>>8564932
I just rip my disc's and play them from my rpi on my ps2

[Anonymous No.8569950]

Physical copies on hardware is the best. I’ll pay some fairly significant amounts for my favorites in good condition.

I’ll emulate too if it’s console-accurate out of the box, or otherwise convenient (I even use shitty ass Popstarter to play PS1 games solely because I can list it neatly right on my console). I hate most graphical enhancements of new emulators, such as upping the internal resolution.

[Anonymous No.8570390]

>>8569642
>eh
Zoom zoom zoom!

[Anonymous No.8571390]

I have barely touched legitimate physical copies of games for the last two decades. Everything has either been ROMs, CD-Rs, DVD-Rs, ISOs loaded to HDD, warez, or legit digital releases.
For a little while I owned a flash cart but sold it when it became "collectible" (SNES PowerPak) compared to the Everdrive with the intention of buying an Everdrive later and keeping the difference in price.
But I never got around to it because when I went back to emulation I realized I didn't care at all about the difference, especially with runahead available now.
I do play on a CRT.

[Anonymous No.8571448]

>>8565059
Is that cocaine or cottage cheese

[Anonymous No.8571462]

>>8565002
all hail, king faggot manchild!

[Anonymous No.8571472]

>>8565015
That shitpost might almost have worked, almost, I mean it looks like af time and effort was spent on it and he almost gets you, but then right at the end ruins the entire thing when it's revealed he can't even spell "truly".... retard bin confirmed.

[Anonymous No.8571490]

>>8571462
>homophobia
Zoom zoom zoom!

[Anonymous No.8571496]

>>8565015
so what does the anon's moral grandstanding have to do with how someone enjoys their cereal?

[Anonymous No.8571497]

>>8565002
That sounds like someone trying to recreate their childhood. It also sounds rather weird and fetishistic. Almost like those ABDL people.

The thing I never stopped playing classic video games. There's nothing to recreate because it's been a constant evolution in terms of my set-up. I do still have my SNES and SMW cart but they have not been touched in years because I have been exploring other /vr/ subjects. The next Mario game I'll play will probably be that /v/ hack that gets shilled on here. Which I'll play with a Hori USB pad via RetroArch connected to a PC CRT. With a cup of coffee!

[Anonymous No.8571507]

>>8571497
>That sounds like someone trying to recreate their childhood. It also sounds rather weird and fetishistic.
you pretty much hit the nail on the head on why this type of elitism is cringe.

[Anonymous No.8571592]

>>8571490
based zoomers

[Anonymous No.8571623]

>>8564932
buy what you can, emulate what you can't

[Anonymous No.8571629]

>>8564932
If you pay thousands for an OPEN NES game, you deserve to go broke.

[Anonymous No.8571631]

>>8564932
Imagine what else you could do /vr/ related for $2500. Things that can't just be replicated with a flash cart or repro.

[Anonymous No.8571635]

>>8571631
If you're careful you can be three operational arcade cabs with that much.

[Anonymous No.8571639]

>>8571635
*buy

[Anonymous No.8571682]

A reminder that if you don't have the box and manual, you are on the same level as flashcart poors.

[Anonymous No.8571715]

>>8571635
Or go on a vacation to one of the conventions. Or a tournament like EVO. Or to Japan.

[Anonymous No.8571806]

>>8571715
Yeah or you could spend on massages, anything but buying a cart that you know damn well you won't play and will just sit on a shelf. If the game were ultra, mega stupid rare, maybe ok, but this? lol

[Anonymous No.8571938]

>>8571682
What if I read the manual as a .pdf on my computer and look at the box art as a high quality .png?

What if I print each of them out and make a little repro box and manual set and put it on my shelf while I just play the ROM on my computer or flash cart?

[Anonymous No.8572226]

>>8571938
Cope

[Anonymous No.8572270]

Use flash carts
Burn discs (for consoles it works for)
Use odes if you can
Buy only cheap games
Emulate the expensive or rare games

[Anonymous No.8572286]

>>8572226
what's wrong with it tho?

[Anonymous No.8572301]

>>8572286
You know you wouldn't turn down a real box with a real cartridge if you didn't have to pay the prices for it. You do that because you can't. Therefore it is cope. Assign a value judgement if you wish.

[Anonymous No.8572302]

>>8571938
>being such a zoomer you even emulate cardboard boxes

[Anonymous No.8572545]

>>8564932
I emulate everything but PS2, since emulation for that is shit. One of these days I'll have to do the mechpwn thing and burn some discs to play shit like Kuon. If my aunt can find her copy of Haunting Ground, I'll borrow that to play it.

[Anonymous No.8573424]

>>8572301
>You know you wouldn't turn down a real box with a real cartridge if you didn't have to pay the prices for it.
I wouldn't but then I'd just sell it again and play the ROM.