/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8446824]

If NES was not meant to be pronounced as "Nezz" then explain why Nintendo themselves made a character called "Ness" as a follow-up to "Ninten".

[Anonymous No.8446832]

>>8446824
https://voca.ro/1akaOkM7VxVR

[Anonymous No.8446839]

>>8446824
Funny thing is, I imagine "NES" had very little meaning in nipland.

[Anonymous No.8446843]

>>8446832
Bongs gonna bong

[Anonymous No.8446846]

It's NEZZ and SNEZZ. also ENNSIXFOUR and WHYYY

[Anonymous No.8446853]

>>8446824
It's pronounced "nay" as in nez

[Anonymous No.8446863]

>>8446824
Who pronounces it like that?

[Anonymous No.8446869]

It's actually pronounced like niece

[Anonymous No.8446870]

>>8446839
The average Japanese person probably did not get the joke until years later on the internet. The developers themselves knew, which is why they did it.

[Anonymous No.8446875]

>>8446839
I never even thought of that until now
Isn't penis one if the default names for Ness in Japan?

[Anonymous No.8446893]

>>8446875
https://legendsoflocalization.com/earthbound/new-game/

His names in Japan are:
Ness
Hat
Takuya
John
Monkeymaru
Mario
Sit Up

Unless one of these means penis, I don't know.

[Anonymous No.8446909]

>>8446839
「ネス」の英名「Ness」は、『MOTHER2 ギーグの逆襲』の日本国外版である『Earthbound』が対応するゲーム機「Super Nintendo Entertainment System」の略称「SNES」のアナグラムが由来だという説もある。

Straight from the Japanese wikipedia page.

[Anonymous No.8446937]

>>8446824
Stop being so British.

[Anonymous No.8446959]

Wasn't にんてん just a generic placeholder name that Nintendo uses for every game that uses some sort of name entry function?

[Anonymous No.8446967]

>>8446959
How many Nintendo NES games even had a save?

[Anonymous No.8446980]

>>8446824
>>8446893
The default name in Mother 2 is chinchin (ネス), a humorous phrase for penis. Obviously localizers can't name the main character fucking PENIS so they shortened it to Ness. Its just a case of stupid lol randumb Japanese humor.

[Anonymous No.8446989]

>>8446980
>The default name in Mother 2 is chinchin (ネス)
But those characters are ne and su, nesu, nothing closing to chinchin. Why are you trying to trick people when it's so easy to disprove it?

[Anonymous No.8446993]

>>8446989
I've studied katakana for years, you have no idea

[Anonymous No.8446994]

>>8446989
Just to waste people’s time.

[Anonymous No.8446996]

>>8446967
Lots in Japan; the Famicom Disk System could save to the disk long before battery saves were common. All our ports had the saving removed.

[Anonymous No.8447021]

>>8446967
>>8446996
They used in the 神々のトライフォース manual, that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.8447026]

>>8446824
It's some disgusting self indulgent shit. You wouldn't want to play a Sony game where the main character is called Playstat, so where does Nintendo get off thinking they can get away by doing this? They're a fucking joke of a company.

[Anonymous No.8447031]

>>8446959
>>8446996
>>8447021
This thread is about "Ness" not "Ninten". Please keep on-topic.

[Anonymous No.8447036]

>>8447026

[Anonymous No.8447037]

>>8447036
>t. seething Nintendo shill

[Anonymous No.8447038]

>>8446832
based

[Anonymous No.8447081]

>>8447026
Anon, the equivalent would be Son.

[Anonymous No.8447084]

>>8446980
that is not [ちんちん]...

[Anonymous No.8447089]

>>8446824
anyone who says SNEZZ or NEZZ automatically makes me want to punch them in the face. JUST SAY S.N.E.S. & N.E.S. you retarded bastard.

[Anonymous No.8447092]

>>8447031
Control freak much?

[Anonymous No.8447095]

>>8446824
I’ve read this like ten times and still can’t see how you aren’t contradicting yourself.

[Anonymous No.8447147]

>>8447089
Takes too long for your retarded abbreviation and superior way rolls off the tongue better.

[Anonymous No.8447154]

>>8447089
>>8447147
SNEZ and S.N.E.S. are both intellectually disabled. It is pronounced snes.

[Anonymous No.8447175]

>>8446832
fippy bippy as always

[Anonymous No.8447370]

>>8446824
I'm not sure I understand, neither NES nor Ness are pronounced Nezz.

[Anonymous No.8447401]

>>8447147
>>8447154
I doesnt roll of the tongue. It sounds like retarded gibberish jabberwockey britbong nigger speak. SHNEZZS FO SHIZZLE MY NIZZLE SHIGGY DIGGITY MUHFUGGA BIX NOOD HOL UP DRIP MEME! Just talk normal and stop making up stupid fake words for shit. Stop butchering language with your obnoxious retarded reddit speak. Its called SUPER NINTENDO.

[Anonymous No.8447405]

>>8447401
>I doesn't roll off the tongue*

[Anonymous No.8447421]

>>8446909
Oh, I know. I know it's "ness" and it's a reference to NES. Just saying, most Japs probably didn't know because it was Famicom there.

[Anonymous No.8447481]

>>8446846
Regular Nintendo and Super Nintendo. Fuckin underage bitch

[Anonymous No.8447515]

Isn't Ness a real scottish name?

[Anonymous No.8447523]

>>8447026
that ps5 astro's playground thing is basically that. it was well received

[Anonymous No.8447562]

I say En-E-Ess and Super Nintendo
fuck the police

[Anonymous No.8447607]

>>8447562
any ass 001
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95eUhuR8_ps

[Anonymous No.8447814]

Why does the letter 'z' appear even once in this thread? NES ends with 's' not with 'z'. Is there something wrong with your brains? 'S' makes a hissing sound, not a buzzing sound. Ness not Nezz. Fix your brains please.

[Anonymous No.8447824]

>>8447814
just septic education, they have raped the language and cannot articulate themselves nor describe the way they speak

[Anonymous No.8447843]

>>8447481
>regular nintendo
kek

[Anonymous No.8447847]

Retards it's NEZZ. Just like Nesquik is pronounced NEZZquik.

[Anonymous No.8447890]

>>8447847
this is why the British empire crumbled

[Anonymous No.8448035]

>>8446993
Katakana shouldn't take more than a month to master, at most.

[Anonymous No.8448038]

From my experience, the Japanese pronounce the console's name as Ness, but as far as I know, this pronunciation was never used in America. It was always "Enn-E-Ess" or "Any-Ess"

[Anonymous No.8448202]

"Ness" is pronounced with a hissing sound at the end.

[Anonymous No.8448224]

>>8448202
Is this really how Americans describe sounds
Can't just say it's an s? How would you describe a z sound? I think any other nation could say "yeah it's like an s but your voice vibrates" because you're so out of your fucking element and devoid of self awareness you don't perceive these things. What else do Americans do to demonstrate an inability to interface with the universe? I assume the average American doesn't understand why the pan comes out of the oven hot in addition to the food

[Anonymous No.8448227]

>>8448224
/int/ is two blocks down buddy

[Anonymous No.8448231]

>>8448227
This is a thread about pronunciation and literacy

[Anonymous No.8448234]

>>8448231
Like I said, the whining about Americans board is two blocks down.

[Anonymous No.8448237]

>>8448234
Does the letter s really not excite any noise in your mind in its own right? Does any letter? Are you an NPC?

[Anonymous No.8448246]

ITT: Braindead Americans

[Anonymous No.8448249]

>>8448246
Here's your (You), you insufferable prick.

[Anonymous No.8448260]

How do you pronounce Leslie? Is it LESS-LEE? No, its LEZZ-LEE. Stupid Americans

[Anonymous No.8448265]

>>8448260
Every Anglophone should understand why there is consonant voicing in Leslie but not in Nes. It's really smoothbrain nigger think to dismiss all the moraic matters and tunnel vision on an alleged rhyme

[Anonymous No.8448287]

>>8448224
What the HELL are you talking about? Your voice vibrates with Z but not with S? Voices literally ARE vibration. And you're objecting to S sounding like a hiss? That is exactly how it sounds. What is wrong with you? Why are you like this? How can you even live?

[Anonymous No.8448293]

>>8448260
How do you pronounce Nestle, champ?

[Anonymous No.8448294]

>>8448265
Pro Evolution Soccer (PES) has always been known as PEZZ. You're wrong, wrongy.

[Anonymous No.8448297]

>>8448293
Idiot comparison. Ignored.

[Anonymous No.8448307]

As much as I've never heard of pronouncing the letter s as /z/ , one thing is for sure, if enough people start doing that, it will become accepted and then officially correct.

It's the main way languages evolve, for instance it's why this board is called "retro games" and not "old games". Calling actual old things "retro" used to be wrong.

Anyone "purists" ITT would know that if they actually studied the matter. Any "purist" who wants to stop the language from evolving is using tons of idioms, pronouncions and word definitions which were onced considered wrong; in other words all they want is the language to start and stop at them, as if they were the center of time and all universe. That's not how it works.

[Anonymous No.8448309]

>>8448287
Voicebox I mean
Yes sound is vibration but of you feel your Adam's apple you will find that an attempt to produce an s noise that successfully makes a vibration will indeed result in a z

[Anonymous No.8448318]

you are all stupid, since english is one of the few languages where the written word doesn't actually match pronunciation. It's because English is a retard tier language that we have these questions. Either way, NEZZ is just stupid

[Anonymous No.8448321]

>>8448318
It is always a Filipino or American complaining about English spelling
Stfu it is fine, probably the best spelling system in fact

[Anonymous No.8448330]

>>8448321
>probably the best spelling system in fact
Out of all the European languages, it's the worst. Spelling bees only exist in English speaking countries for a reason.

[Anonymous No.8448358]

>>8448330
Spelling bees only exist in English okay so you're saying every other language is too gay to have our flexibility.
>there needs to be one common spelling homogenising all dialects and accents based entirely on modern CBD pronunciation
Shut the fuck up you deranged communist something as romantic and English spelling is beyond you. English spring shows us the history of the language, it reflects older pronunciations and thus texts from 700 years ago are easy to read. Because it is based on older pronunciation, English speakers are uniquely gifted in learning other Germanic languages as because that's 700 years of sound change we do not have to account for when guessing what a word in another Germanic language means. It allows us to figure out Sandhi on our own too you rationalist communist.

The Anglo-Saxon possesses critical thinking and so is never going to say "OH NO I LITERALLY CANNOT DECIPHER WHAT THIS PERSON IS SAYING BECAUSE THEIR ACCENT IS DIFFERENT/THEIR SPELLING IS DIFFERENT". In mainland Europe the difference between Scottish English and English English would be enough to be considered two mutually intelligible languages yet they can understand each other because they're not fuckwits. And that's WITH DIFFERENT SPELLING FROM EACH OTHER

English spelling provides us with accent preservation. It provides us with the instant scanning of logographs COMBINED WITH the coda of alphabetic scripts. It provides us with flexibility in song and wordplay. And most importantly, mutts like you fucking hate it!!!!

[Anonymous No.8448361]

>>8448358
* In mainland Europe the difference between Scottish English and English English would be enough to be considered two mutually unintelligible languages

[Anonymous No.8448372]

>>8447843
I heard this a lot. We didn’t say dumb shit like og nintendo back them

[Anonymous No.8448378]

[Anonymous No.8448391]

>>8448358
that was a lot of autism. I'll put it this way, I've spent time learning Italian, Spanish, and Greek seriously and countless other languages for fun. None of them approach the retarded spelling of english. Maybe outside of Europe they exist. English does other things right but not spelling.

[Anonymous No.8448416]

>>8446980
Should have just named him "Pee-pee".

[Anonymous No.8448631]

>>8448372
really? not even "Original Nintendo"?

[Anonymous No.8448964]

>>8446989
I wanna diddle nesu kun's chinchin

[Anonymous No.8449053]

>>8448416
My shota pee-pee threads would be far more justified

[Anonymous No.8449081]

>>8447890
>>8447824
>wake up
>stretch
>get out of bed
>check to-do list for the day
>”obsess over Americans”
>same as what I had for yesterday, the day before that, the day before that, the day before that...

[Anonymous No.8449087]

>>8446846
>NEZZ
NEZZ NUTS

[Anonymous No.8449098]

>>8449081
>>”obsess over Americans”
Not him but bruh, it's English, not 'murican. Bye

[Anonymous No.8449103]

>>8449098
>pretending septic/seppo isn’t slang for Americans
Keep those tears coming Nigel

[Anonymous No.8449114]

>>8449103
I don't really care. I just know you speak English, do the needful, bye Sir.

[Anonymous No.8449121]

>>8448287
S is a voiceless consonant and Z is a voiced consonant.

[Anonymous No.8449123]

The southern US accent is the closest remaining accent to original English.

[Anonymous No.8449128]

>>8448631
I always thought it was weird to call the console a "Nintendo", since that's the company's name. It's like calling the PlayStation "the Sony".

[Anonymous No.8449164]

>>8449128
I call the PlayStation the gaystation

[Anonymous No.8449168]

>>8449164
The phony playshitstation

[Anonymous No.8449179]

>Somewhat interested in playing a ROM hack called "Mother 2 Deluxe"
>https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/2518/
>Uses a proprietary .EBP patch format
>Which uses a proprietary patching utility which uses an installer
>ROM won't even boot after patching

What in the goddamn? Just use BPS or something, surely.

[Anonymous No.8449185]

>>8449179
Further
>Readme file is a fucking .DOC file
>ROM won't boot in Snes9X, requires BSNES
How the fuck do you produce a ROM that won't boot in Snes9X? Won't surprise me if it won't work on real hardware.

[Anonymous No.8449335]

>>8449179
Earthbound romhacking is a fucking mess since that game's code is pure spaghetti. Did you expand the rom? I know some Earthbound patches require expanded roms.

[Anonymous No.8449345]

>>8449335
The patcher appears to expand the ROM anyway, from the original 3MB ROM to 6MB.

The ROM does work, just not in Snes9X which is how I usually check that they work before loading them onto my RG351 devices.

[Anonymous No.8449390]

>>8447089
they're nintendo and super nintendo

[Anonymous No.8449398]

>>8448307
what what I've seen it's the bongs who pronounce NES and SNES and "nezz and snezz"

[Anonymous No.8449413]

>>8449179
I encountered this recently too. I guess this is a product of tools meant for underage modders. Fucking groan, tools already exist for patching you spergs.

[Anonymous No.8449556]

>>8449164
>>8449168
Stay classy, /vr/.

[Anonymous No.8450183]

>>8446824
>>8447089
It's best practice to say "Nintendo Entertainment System" and "Super Nintendo Entertainment System." in fact, just so that people don't get confused, you should spell them out. Then you don't have to worry about mispronouncing anything.

[Anonymous No.8450215]

>>8449128
Well, I think that that might be different if the PlayStation was called "The Sony Station". "The Station" has no meaning until you add "Sony" to it, which means that the word that is most important to describe "The Sony Station" is "Sony". Apply that same principle to the "Nintendo Entertainment System" and it makes sense that the most natural shorthand for it (other than of abbreviating it, which used to be less common when speaking) was "The Nintendo," especially when they only had one console.
Once they released the second console, it was easiest to think about it as a modification of the original, and the new console's name even reflected it by simply adding on a modifier. How do you usually refer to the state of something before it's modified? "Regular."

[Anonymous No.8450306]

>>8450215
This. And it was also reinforced by the branding. Take a look at the logo here for example

>SUPER NINTENDO
>(entertainment system)

[Anonymous No.8450615]

>>8448391
All you said was you wasted time with a bunch of wog languages and your puny brain was somehow able to grasp them

[Anonymous No.8450619]

>>8446843
that isnt a british accent you retarded esl

[Anonymous No.8450620]

>>8449123
I keep hearing this thrown around and that's pseudoscientific as fuck, it is about as modern as valley girl speech. The closest English accent to average Old English would be very conservative speakers of Lowland Scots

[Anonymous No.8450623]

>>8446967
good question
idk the exact number or if it can be looked up anywhere
but both Zeldas and most later RPGs, a few early RPGs had passwords

[Anonymous No.8450625]

>>8450619
What is it then Nigel

[Anonymous No.8450632]

>>8447026
>>8447037
This is cherry-picking...but you already knew that, nintendork...It truly is amazing how many people on this board like you have yet to realize that everything Nintendo does, Sega does better.
*chuckles softly*
Why are Nintentoddlers allowed on this board? They're a fucking embarrassment and make real mature gamers like me look bad for even occupying the same board as me.

>b-but Nintendo excelled at making platformers!

Bullshit, Nintendo didn't excel at one god damn thing...I take that back, actually...They excel at one thing...Nintendo excels at being for bing bing wahoo babies and manchildren who run away when they see blood because they are immature babyfags...they can't handle a deep, dark, serious game like I can...Sega and Sony had games that reflected the inner darkness of my soul from having two Christmases since my parents were divorced...Nintendo did kiddy shit because nintentoddlers are fucking babies who never had to rough it in high school like real people, like me, who had to deal with bullies and preppy douchebags since they didn't understand my real power...

[Anonymous No.8450689]

>>8448631
In Arizona we referred to them as regular and super Nintendo

[Anonymous No.8450692]

>>8448246
rent-free

[Anonymous No.8450695]

>>8450632
Have you ever considered that you were bullied for a reason?

[Anonymous No.8450705]

>>8448391
English spelling is fucky bc it's a bastard child of both Romantic and Germanic languages

[Anonymous No.8450709]

>>8450705
Tell me how many words you just said are from French and whatnot

[Anonymous No.8450721]

>>8450709
idk, English borrows words from every language desu
but my point is that words with Latin roots will usually follow one consistent set of spelling rules, words with Greek roots will follow another, etc etc
Understanding the etymology of every single word is beyond the scope of what we have time to teach at elementary school or in an ESL class, and that's why people have a hard time with spelling

[Anonymous No.8450729]

>>8450721
>Understanding the etymology of every single word is beyond the scope of what we have time to teach at elementary school or in an ESL class
it sure isn't beyond the scope of basic human pattern recognition
if you can tell the difference between German and French, and can tell that French is similar to Italian, then you can tell that a particular word is broadly "Roman" and is to be spelt such.