32X Does

[Anonymous No.8182049]

What Saturn don't.

In today's episode - have better DooM homebrew:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKz9ItBdodw

[Anonymous No.8182117]

>>8182049
That homebrew would be a CD-32x game, and nobody bought those.

[Anonymous No.8182129]

>>8182049
I love 90s video game ads bros. Someone invent a time machine so I can fucking go back

[Anonymous No.8182178]

>>8182049
>>8182117
Add in fart gas.

[Anonymous No.8182920]

>>8182117
CD 32x just means a CD and a 32x connected to a genesis. way more people bought Sega CDs than 32xs, so there's actually a decent chance that most people who bought 32xs had a Sega CD

[Anonymous No.8182929]

>>8182049
Does the 32X have hidden power not unlcoked by any game? I'm trying to figure out what would be the most fun retro console to develop a game for. Something like a big metroidvania.

>Mega-CD
>32x
>snes SA-1
>playstation
>saturn
>pce-engine CD (arcade card)

[Anonymous No.8182940]

>>8182049
The aspect ratio seems messed up since it should be 4:3. Also they're cheating with the music. Audio compression tech wasn't that advanced in that era. It was either redbook audio or in-game synths. mp3s were much later.

[Anonymous No.8182946]

>>8182920
It meant you needed both add-ons to use a CD 32x disc. Only die-hard sega fans had both, but yes, I'm sure the 750k people who bought into 32x also had a Sega CD.

[Anonymous No.8182947]

>>8182117
You don't need to have the Mega CD to play the game. All the CD does is add an option to have CD-quality music.

[Anonymous No.8182957]

>>8182947
If you want to play OP's posted homebrew as it is in the video, with the CD audio, you need both.

[Anonymous No.8182994]

This proves nothing. A homebrew Saturn Doom port could run just as smooth too. With 20 years of knwoledge and all the time and tools in the world you can do better than rushjob low budget ports.

[Anonymous No.8183001]

>>8182049
The 32X has the same dual SH-2s as the Saturn. But the Saturn's are clocked higher and it has more RAM. So if 32X can do this so can Saturn and probably better.
>>8182940
The music with the Sega CD is redbook audio. No compression is used. If you don't have the Sega CD you have standard FM synth.
>>8182957
If the Sega CD isn't detected it will just default to FM Synth.

[Anonymous No.8183119]

>>8182049
Couldn't find a link to it anywhere, spent best part of Sunday figuring out how to compile it. Heres a link to it, I've played through it a bit its a pretty awesome job they did. https://mega.nz/file/iHwnwITS#Eh6tq6j1v290MKh-9fRkRjAKwiHHmzzVs5ozn3k6fVg

[Anonymous No.8183132]

>>8182947
The music is stored on the CD, you can play it with any Audio CD you like.

[Anonymous No.8183147]

>>8183001
>If you don't have the Sega CD you have standard FM synth.
I was skimming the thread which was linked in the youtube video and it seems that they didn't utilize the 32x's PWM capabilities to its fullest as they were already hitting the ceiling with the ROM's 4MB storage. One poster mentioned using an SSF2-type mapper to extend the ROM's addressable space to 6MB, which could possibly be used to expand the cartridge's music and sound. I'm not sure how much headroom the SH-2s have for further sound processing, though. It'd be interesting to hear if implemented, though.

[Anonymous No.8183160]

>>8182049
32X 3D > SHITURN 3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-wmxnYAwwo

[Anonymous No.8183191]

>>8183160
Imagine a world where we skipped the Shiturn, lived off the Mega Drive+32X until around 1998, then Sega released their Black Belt Dreamcast using the 3dfx graphics processor.

Lads... I want to live in that world...

[Anonymous No.8183365]

>>8183160
Wow, that 10 foot render distance sure is "next level". And with no game code running!

[Anonymous No.8183370]

I actually kinda like Saturn doom desu.

[Anonymous No.8183446]

>>8183365
A game like Phantasy Star would look amazing with this engine. Of course you're not going to run Quake 3 with this engine. Go be a zoomer somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.8183953]

>>8183446
You're not going to run Tomb Raider on this engine, or any 5th gen game worth playing.

[Anonymous No.8183986]

>>8183191
Sega still go third party in that universe still.

[Anonymous No.8184087]

>>8183986
Doubt it. They wouldn't have the failure of the Saturn to ruin their reputation and scare most of their 3rd-party support away to the Playstation nor hemorrhage all that money on it failing in America and Europe in that universe.

[Anonymous No.8184395]

>>8182957
somebody needs to redo both the 32x and saturn versions to bring them up to par.

[Anonymous No.8184438]

>>8183953
>or any 5th gen game worth playing.
Games like Resident Evil and SOTN would run fine on 32x. Virtua Fighter is further proof 32x could hang with the big dogs.
>You're not going to run Tomb Raider on this engine
Goldeneye barely runs on N64 as it is.

[Anonymous No.8184456]

>>8184438
You'd need the CD addon as well for Resi, but I guess it's doable.
SotN doesn't have a chance in hell of running without any 2D GPU.

[Anonymous No.8184468]

>>8184456
32x was going to get SotN before Sega retardedly killed the system in favour of the inferiour Shiturn.

[Anonymous No.8184495]

>>8183446
That's not the games engine. That's basically a pre-calculated screensaver the overhead sections and battles are the interactive parts.

[Anonymous No.8184518]

>>8184468
What a disaster that would have been.

[Anonymous No.8184527]

>>8184468
Muh dick demands some art of that version of Maria. NOW.

[Anonymous No.8184730]

>>8184468
Funny because on the most basic level SotN wouldn't run or look properly on the 32x same as it didn't on the Saturn. SotN was so deeply ingrained into the PSX rendering modes that even the tile sets don't match up on the Saturn.

[Anonymous No.8184740]

>>8184730
It wouldn't have been a PSX port though, SotN was being made ground-up for 32X hardware.

[Anonymous No.8184841]

>>8183160
>>8183191
2d > 3d
and saturn was a 2d system

[Anonymous No.8184858]

>>8184841
not this stupid meme again.
Saturn was always intended to be a polygon-based console.

[Anonymous No.8184874]

>>8184858
It literally wasnt, the thing doesnt even draw triangles, devs had to find ways to make basic shit like fading work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdD0GvVRSMc

[Anonymous No.8184885]

>>8184874
Quadrangle polygons are still polygons. Don't be dumb, now.

[Anonymous No.8184895]

>>8184885
Yes, but it sucks for almost any 3d application.

[Anonymous No.8185027]

>>8183147
>I'm not sure how much headroom the SH-2s have for further sound processing, though. It'd be interesting to hear if implemented, though.
ADX is definitely doable on the SH-2s as the Saturn was able to pull it off. It also requires very few CPU cycles to pull off on the SH-2.

You might also be able to pull it off on the Sega CD's 68k since it's not really doing a whole lot.

[Anonymous No.8185340]

>>8184730
The project was completely restarted and only reused some sprites and assets. The original game was something akin to Rondo of Blood as a simple level based game with Belmont and a rival.

[Anonymous No.8185590]

>>8182940
Read the video description, retard. He upscaled it to 720p.

[Anonymous No.8186235]

>>8183986
still go still

[Anonymous No.8186308]

>>8183191
No worries. You already live in that world. Alone and confused.

[Anonymous No.8186332]

>>8184495
>That's basically a pre-calculated screensaver
Whats your point? Phantasy Star is a slow paced game that doesn't need 60 frames per second and infinity draw distances.

[Anonymous No.8186335]

>>8184518
32x out performed PSX with it's version of Mortal Kombat. Stop being disingenuous and admit 32x had hidden potential.

[Anonymous No.8186376]

>>8184468
Man I wish we could have had 32x sotn now

[Anonymous No.8186430]

>>8186335
it didnt, it failed for a reason

[Anonymous No.8186438]

>>8186430
Why are sony fans so annoying? Holy shit man can you even try to objectively discuss this stuff or are you so entrenched in console war bullshit?

[Anonymous No.8186440]

>>8186430
Lack of support from Sega was the reason it failed, still had potential as a system.

[Anonymous No.8186443]

>>8186438
>muh sony
32x was a pile of shit, thats been an objective fact for years.

[Anonymous No.8186447]

>>8186443
Get out of here troll

[Anonymous No.8186449]

>>8186430
>it didnt
Heres your Mortal Kombat bro. Only 5+ seconds of lag mid combat each round just like the arcade.

[Anonymous No.8186458]

>>8182049
>Metal Doom soundtrack
>Not the period accurate 3Do soundtrack
c'mon, you're so fucking close to something great here.

[Anonymous No.8186459]

>>8186449
I was talking about the hidden potential, a shitty port doesnt make the ps1 worse

[Anonymous No.8186460]

>>8186458
You could play it with the 3DO soundtrack if you want, just burn it to a CD instead.

[Anonymous No.8186462]

>Someone's fixing the 3Do port
>Someone's fixing the 32X port

Surely someone will eventually fix the goddamn saturn port...

[Anonymous No.8186480]

>>8186459
>I was talking about the hidden potential
Well you're clearly wrong again. Not having to worry about load times is a very clear advantage in fast paced arcade games.

[Anonymous No.8186523]

>>8186438
Snoys are the worst fanboys ever. Thats why.

[Anonymous No.8187205]

>>8186335
Bad ports prove nothing. There are hundreds of Playstation games that far exceed what that game did. Same with the Saturn even.

[Anonymous No.8187227]

>>8182940
What's with the duplicate stripes? Is it rendered with vertical interlacing or something to achieve 60 FPS?

[Anonymous No.8187259]

>>8186376
A guy is doing a symphony of the night on megadrive, but it won't be a metroidvania.

[Anonymous No.8187651]

>>8183160
dang we couldve had morrowind on 32x probably

[Anonymous No.8187654]

If the 32x is so good, why can't you fix mine? I've bitched for months and nothing's changed!

[Anonymous No.8188340]

>>8187205
How exactly did a cd based system exceed cartridges in loading?