/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8117872]

>>Rest?
>Yes
>No
Oh, THANK YOU, Pixel Remaster. I couldn't tell you how many times I ran around the dang castle looking for what to do next. Turns out when your maid says she changed your sheet and to have a good night's sleep, you were supposed to get IN bed. Glad we got that sorted out.

[Anonymous No.8117950]

>>8117872
dilate

[Anonymous No.8117972]

C'mon, mod your font.

[Anonymous No.8117981]

>>8117872
But does it fix this part?

[Anonymous No.8117986]

>>8117872
>plot informs you that you're supposed to set off the next morning
>can't understand that this means you need to make the game advance to "next morning" somehow
People were smarter in the 90s.

[Anonymous No.8117995]

>>8117981
Man, that's sad.

[Anonymous No.8118002]

>pixel remasters are only for platforms on which you're just going to emulate anyway
I am angry

[Anonymous No.8118009]

>>8117972
based
I fucking hate retro styled games (usually RPGs) that will slap a fucking anti-aliased to fuck font on their blocky pixel game
Its so fucking jarring and ugly and the UI devs need to be fired

[Anonymous No.8118013]

>>8117981
The player doesn't seem to realize it was a character in-game rather than the game telling them?

[Anonymous No.8118030]

>>8117872
Stop playing tranny remaster garbage

[Anonymous No.8118032]

>>8117981
I mean, he's not wrong.

[Anonymous No.8118085]

>>8117872
I friggin' tried to find Cecil's PJs for HOURS until I realized he sleeps in that uncomfortable Dark Knight armor.

[Anonymous No.8118141]

>>8117981
>valve_playtesters.png

[Anonymous No.8118242]

Wait didnt ff4 have coop? Game is listed as single player on steam

[Anonymous No.8118276]

>>8118242
The recollection of messing around with that with a friend is that it isn't "coop", the second controller just also controls the cursor as well. Since these don't have two controllers, that's not an option.

[Anonymous No.8118278]

>>8118141
>We had to make all the maze like elements simpler because the play testers just kept going in circles
@_@ still bothers me to this day

[Anonymous No.8118291]

>>8118278
Why do you think we lost an entire console generation to braindead "games" that played themselves? Valve wasn't the only one doing that.

[Anonymous No.8118292]

FFIV on the snes will always be the superior version

[Anonymous No.8118334]

>>8118276
You could set which controller controlled which character's cursor in the menu. Though it was always kinda messy.

[Anonymous No.8118414]

Im playing the PSP version right now just because I could

[Anonymous No.8118425]

How many goddamn versions does this game have now? Anyone got a comparison list or something?

[Anonymous No.8118451]

>>8118425
I also am interested in reading or watching the best comparison breakdown of all versions of all 6 final fantasy games.

[Anonymous No.8118496]

can you force it to run in low resolution and put it through shaders?

[Anonymous No.8118607]

https://youtu.be/MHGbzhKG4pY
https://youtu.be/Z0MnGoDcy50

[Anonymous No.8118648]

>>8117981
>>8118141
>"People would just walk around during playtesting of the 'Lady Boyle' mission," Dishonored executive producer Julien Roby said. "They didn't know what to do. They didn't even go upstairs because a guard told them they couldn't. They'd say, 'Okay, I can't go upstairs.' They wouldn't do anything."

[Anonymous No.8118678]

>>8118648
Lol I had a autist GF who did this when she played the Stanley parable.

[Anonymous No.8118778]

>>8118607
Oh shit I didn't even think to pull up the OST. Red Wings and Hey Cid sound so fucking good and pretty much every song gets extended/varied second loops. Fuck I want it just for the music alone. That jaunty fucking guitar on Cid's theme is catchy as hell

[Anonymous No.8118781]

Two of the most important tracks in the fucking game, Battle 1 and Battle 2 have been utterly fucking ruined.
My seethe is beyond words.

[Anonymous No.8118930]

>>8118414
Is this supposed to be some kind of hot take? The PSP version is the best one.

[Anonymous No.8118987]

>>8118242
I thought coop was added in V

[Anonymous No.8119010]

>>8118781
Wait what? How so?

[Anonymous No.8119023]

>>8118278
yep, like Egoraptor pointed out in one of his videos, once gaming hit the mainstream in the late 90s / early 2000s, game devs just started dumbing down games to appeal to the masses of retards that don't know how to play vidya, and design every single videogame as if it's the player's first ever videogame

nothing can require complex thought, everything must be straight-forward and the game must hold your hand the whole time and always tell you what to do at any given moment

[Anonymous No.8119060]

>>8119023
The guy who rather infamously always skips tutorials / ignores tooltips is telling us that games need to be designed for retards? And you felt the need to cite him?

[Anonymous No.8119079]

>Game script more or less reverted to the GBA version, not even to the PSP version which at least updated parts of it to somewhat align with the DS version.
Not as drastic as using the PlayStation translation, but imagine going that far backwards? I knew it was expecting too much to be expecting remastered translations. I'm almost surprised they didn't just ChaosRush the III localization.
>>8118930
The best the PSP remakes have to offer, sure, at its core it's the GBA version in a passable state, and that arguably had the best extras despite being held back by gameplay issues (European revision was better still not flawless like some people would have you believe). Graphically, in several ways it was the precursor to mobile V/VI.

[Anonymous No.8119098]

>>8119079
Jesus fuck, 30 years in and they still cannot settle on one fucking definitive English translation. Every single new version they trot out, they gotta fuck with the translation in some way. I mean, I'm glad they tossed out the original SNES translation because, spoony bard memes aside, it utterly sucked. But it seems they'll never be satisfied.

[Anonymous No.8119148]

>>8118648
If you've played Ultima, you know you do NOT fuck with the guards.
Well except in 6 when you blast them with cannons to steal their equipment.

[Anonymous No.8119179]

>>8119060
>egoraptor bad
kys

[Anonymous No.8119204]

>>8119098
I'm gonna let you in on a secret
They do it to sell endless 'remasters'

[Anonymous No.8119206]

DEFINITIVE VERSIONS OF THE FIRST SIX FINAL FANTASIES AS OF SEPEMBER 2021 but let's be honest this isn't changing anytime soon

I&II - WonderSwan Color, PlayStation (just enough modernizing with the least amount of compromising)
III - Famicom, PR (this is currently the only Pixel Remaster that's an acceptable alternative due to slim pickings and the 3D version really just being that insufferable)
IV - PSP, DS (what can I say, I'm just as shocked that there are not one but two decent remakes for once)
V - SNES, GBA (the latter suffers from the usual handheld quirks but can be mitigated with patches, though mileage may vary if the official translation goes a bit far in a few places)
VI - SNES, T-Edition (the latter is an unofficial Japanese hack but it makes GBA obsolete)

Of course, when in doubt, just play the originals as it can be daunting to keep track of these if you're just getting into classic Final Fantasy, you're really not missing much for the most part if you lose out on extra content.

[Anonymous No.8119208]

>>8119179
>luv me troon ecelebs, simple as

[Anonymous No.8119213]

>>8119060
>states something that's true and well known
>>8119179
>no don't criticize my precious eceleb
absolutely subhuman
commit die

[Anonymous No.8119245]

>>8119206
Special note on The After Years should you choose to play it: avoid the 3D version, I made the mistake of thinking it would be comparable to IV DS but it actually removes many things due to asset laziness.

[Anonymous No.8119536]

>>8119206
>T-Edition

Just looked this up. Holy fucking shit. English translation when?

[Anonymous No.8119593]

>>8119206
You haven't played the Pixel Remasters. And sure as shit haven't played WonderSwan. 2 PR is far and away the best one.

[Anonymous No.8119610]

>>8119206
Stop larping. There's no way someone who can actually read Japanese (WonderSwan, SNES versions that don't have shit translations) at an acceptable level is this big of a faggot...

[Anonymous No.8119795]

>>8119536
>English translation when?
It's being worked on by someone who finishes their shit so soon

[Anonymous No.8119837]

>>8119179
>>8119023
Nigger you better just be making a joke

[Anonymous No.8120182]

>>8118781
I'm glad I'm not deaf like you are.

[Anonymous No.8120198]

It’s good.
It’s just not as good as PSP

[Anonymous No.8120232]

>>8119536
A hardcoded patch is coming out soon, but if you can't wait for that, try the on-the-fly Lua setup: http://ngplus.net/index.php?/forums/topic/1144-t-edition-quick-start-instructions/
>>8119593
We've just had this thread: >>8048327
tldr, the Pixel Remasters look okay at first but it soon becomes apparent if you've played earlier versions that they do too much under the hood, like FFI keeping the magic-breaking GBA items, FFII basically overhauling the entire battle system, and FFIII getting rid of class change limitations altogether (making it very easy to cheese level-up stats), among many, many other changes that amount to keeping the difficulty totally Normie-friendly. The changes to FFII are only a good thing if you were told to have a contempt for that game to begin with. You might even be better off playing that FFIV hack that turns it into FFII.
>>8119610
Welcome to classic RPGs and most older games in general. Back then, people got around with the lack of kanji just fine.

[Anonymous No.8120259]

>>8120232
>FFIII getting rid of class change limitations altogether (making it very easy to cheese level-up stats)
Job points are so easy to get in the original that the cost is negligible after a while, and all the stat-penalties of the DS version do is discourage changing jobs altogether.

[Anonymous No.8120340]

>>8120259
>Job points are so easy to get in the original that the cost is negligible after a while
...No? No, the Capacity amounts scale up as you progress through the original game, and you'll not want to go back to lower classes. It's meant to prevent you from doing scummy stuff like switching to a higher VIT class before level-up or simply switching to a physical class once you run out of MP. Even if the 3D version had a worse system, that's no reason to throw out all safeguards against this in the Pixel Remaster, which should've even be paying the DS version any mind at all.

[Anonymous No.8120438]

>>8120232
Speaking about the first two Pixel Remasters (have not yet tried the fourth): they aren't really the return to form they've been marketed as. Not just in terms of gameplay mechanics, but also graphically. It's a very weird, not-at-all-cohesive hodge-podge of previous versions in a blender. Most of the overworld and background assets are dated from the WSC style, but they're the worst thing to happen that those original assets since the darkened/stretched PSX versions because they're based on the GBA versions that saturate all the colors and details to ridiculous levels (even the PSP versions were based on GBA palette for no good reason). On top of that, the newer sprites were clearly made without this in mind (obviously, since they seem to have first been made for an art book years ago) and so they feel out of place and overall don't feel like they belong in these environments. The monster sprites are a weird mix of sometimes-recolored GBA sprites and new ones based on the NES sprites, but the latter's quality is all over the place: just look at Lich and Gargoyle's eye, final Emperor's face, or Dullahan's head. In some cases, the PSP versions are closer to the NES poses, such as Astos and Chaos. And in other cases, the Pixel Remaster is missing the point (see pic). Final Fantasy III suffers the least due to there being no other finished 2D remake and the 8-bit monster sprites being good enough to have shading drawn over them, but the first two really set the expectations for the rest of the lineup, so the bottom line is this: calling them "Pixel Remasters" is a sham.

[Anonymous No.8120441]

>>8120232
>keeping the difficulty totally Normie-friendly
and that's a good thing, jrpgs are played for their story, not some stupid ass grinding and min maxing that wastes your time. Only a turbo losers would argue that adding stuff like autobattle or mana potions is a bad thing.
Nobody says "dude, I love FF2 because it's so hardcore", nobody says "I love FF3 for the job system, it totally makes my jrpg skill shine". You just pick a weapon and a job and stick to them for the whole game and barely think about them period, and then grind for shit when you need it.

[Anonymous No.8120452]

>>8120441
>and that's a good thing,
Ok journo, but better yet, why not just watch a let's play or read a wiki summary if that's all that matters?

[Anonymous No.8120453]

>>8119060
What's your point?

[Anonymous No.8120469]

>>8120452
because that's not me playing, dumbass
jprgs are one grade above VNs, just with levels and random encounters thrown in

[Anonymous No.8120470]

>>8120441
>nobody says "I love FF3 for the job system,"
This is either daft as hell or a troll, bravo.

[Anonymous No.8120474]

>>8120441
Retard detected. The job system is one of the biggest draws of FF3. Nobody gives a shit about the story.

[Anonymous No.8120768]

>>8120470
You say that, and yet, apparently no one else here caught on to the sarcasm of >>8117872 & >>8117981

[Anonymous No.8120807]

>>8118648
To be completely fair, a guard in a videogame saying "Don't do this" is code for "If you do this we will utterly facefuck you and you'll get kicked to the load game screen."

[Anonymous No.8120817]

>>8119023
Name every game that used low difficulty or simplification as a selling point. In fact, name just three.

[Anonymous No.8120981]

>>8118334
The SuFami could do that but no the SNES. That didn't come over until FF6.

[Anonymous No.8122028]

>>8120340
The only stat that is effective permanently by changing classes is hp anyway. A level 50 warrior will always have the same strength/wis/agi/wil/vit no matter what jobs they previously used. In the pr edition the hp values don't seem to work in a reliable way. I remember seeing people post screenshots of their party with 1000+hp discrepancies through the party where I think my black belt only had around 600 more hp than everyone else.

[Anonymous No.8122380]

So I heard PSP has the ATB bugged like GBA can anyone confirm? If that's true and this version just werks then this and DS might end up as the most legit versions out there in case you don't wanna step into the glorified NES UI of the original, though idk if there's any mods that make it better in that case SNES IV would end up like VI and you're better off just emulating with fanmade tweaks.

I'm just curious because I've played both the original US release and DS and I wonder if this would actually work as a middle ground with just "patching" the game but not revamping everything about it since I like it a lot but it's harder than it should be to recommend it to someone when every release is so different in graphics or ruins the gameplay with a broken ATB (DS version made me realize how important it actually is, I remember even IX on the PS1 feeling quite wonky in comparison). Was never a huge fan of how the graphics on the PSP remakes felt either, too soft looking for me.

[Anonymous No.8122697]

>>8117981
Reminds me how I just didn't fight the monster in the lamp in FF8 until Disc 2 when a friend told me that's how I get the No Encounters ability.

For some reason the warning of just "don't attempt to open this" felt like it was some flavour text and the item was going to be useful later, turned out I was just retarded.

[Anonymous No.8123157]

>>8120807
>"give me freedom or give me death!"
>>"can't do that."
>"ok."

[Anonymous No.8123395]

>>8120807
except it isnt. many games expect you not to be a boot licker and just simply dont get caught while breaking the law.

[Anonymous No.8123461]

>>8117872
This reminds me of how the DQ "remasters" past the SNES added in little retard sparkly spots to everything important on the world map. It's so fucking soulless to see the end of DQ1 where the entrance to the dungeon is hidden behind the demon lord's chair, and there's a fucking sparkly "HEY INTERACT WITH THIS" thing over it, completely spoiling what was a 2 second puzzle that anyone with half a braincell understood instantly anyway.

I'm so glad the SNES version doesn't have them.

[Anonymous No.8123543]

>>8120438
how the FUCK did I never notice the statues of the fiends before?

[Anonymous No.8123569]

There's a distortion effect that plays on the Magnetic Cavern if you have anything metallic equipped. I don't remember this being in any of the other versions.

[Anonymous No.8125575]

>>8118648
If someone tells me not to do something, I immediately do it as hard as fucking possible glitching backwards through walls if I have too and then throwing stuff at them from the top of my castle walls of go fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.8125615]

I just don't like the UI. I know there's a fix for the portraits and sprites but seriously, when will there be a fix for the UI and menus? Shouldn't be too hard to do.

[Anonymous No.8125712]

https://youtu.be/NDbYCnVsyxU
This shit is amazing

[Anonymous No.8125721]

>>8118781
they're fucking great seethe forever

[Anonymous No.8125727]

>>8119206
actual definitive versions
I - Pixel Remaster
II - Pixel Remaster
III - Pixel Remaster
IV - Pixel Remaster
V - sorry retards it's going to be the Pixel Remaster
VI - you cannot hide from the truth that it will be the Pixel Remaster

[Anonymous No.8125786]

>>8117981
When I was a kid playing dragon warrior I remember there was a person in one of the towns that said whenever you cross a bridge the enemies get stronger. I didn't understand that it meant you were in a new area with stronger enemies, I thought that any time you crossed over a bridge all the enemies in the game would get permanently stronger so I stayed the fuck away from bridges and never progressed.

[Anonymous No.8125961]

>>8125727
125 yen have been transferred to your squarenix-MVP-account

[Anonymous No.8126651]

>>8125727
Thank you Pixel Remaster-sama!

[Anonymous No.8126662]

>>8119206
Actual nonsense. Just play the original release of each. Imagine seriously saying that DS version of 4, consisting of like 6 polys on screen at a time, and running at like 18 fps, is the "definitive" version of FF4, over the Super Famicom Original.

[Anonymous No.8126668]

>>8126662
He’s right though.
Originals can be surpassed.

[Anonymous No.8126671]

>>8126668
FF4 DS has worse graphics and performance than the original. It isn't better. Its a interesting way to replay the game.

[Anonymous No.8126767]

>on 9/11
Wow. Coincidence or by design?

[Anonymous No.8126771]

>>8126671
Why would one choose to play [that version] on DS instead of PC anyways?

[Anonymous No.8126778]

>>8125727
Seconded. This is an undeniable fact, despite multiple musical atrocities. What they did to the song that plays in Mysidia in FFIV really pissed me off.

[Anonymous No.8126797]

>>8125727
This. They really knocked it out of the park with these, which is a rare thing to say about Square and remakes in general these days.ZK442

[Anonymous No.8126897]

>>8126771

[Anonymous No.8127017]

>>8123569
Damn. I'm over 5 hours and Cecil just became a Paladin.

[Anonymous No.8127153]

>>8126771
Because playing on PC isn't comfy. Though last time I played it on 3DS, I accidentally hit the home button in the middle of a long dungeon, which closed the damn app and I ragequit. I play FF3 remake on PSP, so no issue with anything like that there.

[Anonymous No.8128570]

>>8126767
>associating this with 9/11 instead of the old meme
The translator is a /b/tard

[Anonymous No.8128608]

Anyone else play/playing these on a CRT? Looks, nice bros.

[Anonymous No.8128828]

man ffiv has far too many moments where people just decide to fucking kill themselves for no reason

what were they thinking

[Anonymous No.8129731]

>>8126767

[Anonymous No.8129879]

You cannot deny that the ost was good

[Anonymous No.8129919]

>>8129731
>kill young girl’s mom
>abduct her
>take her to a hotel
>hotel worker sees the girl looks destroyed
>FREE ROOM
>murder some cops
>All set!

[Anonymous No.8129925]

>>8129879
They have gotten progressively worse. FF2 was peak kino music. 3 and 4 were disappointing. They ruined a bunch of good songs in 4, especially the town theme, Troia castle theme and don’t even get me started about the Mysidia theme.

[Anonymous No.8129967]

>>8120470
FF3 sucks. Had the least fun with it out of all of these so far.

[Anonymous No.8129972]

>>8122380
Bro. PSP is trash, I can’t believe people like it, it looks like shit.

[Anonymous No.8129979]

>>8129972

[Anonymous No.8130119]

>>8120817
Fallout 3
Fallout 4
Oblivion
Skyrim
New Super Mario Brothers
Street Fighter 5
Halo

[Anonymous No.8130154]

where the FUCK is the best spot to grind for the bomb summon im going INSANE

[Anonymous No.8130181]

>>8130154
try the dark cave

[Anonymous No.8130258]

>>8130119
None of those advertised a low difficulty, anon.

[Anonymous No.8130442]

maybe it was my fault for playing the psp version but I didn't like IV that much because it literally felt like I was playing an RPG maker game. No excuses because RPG Maker VX came before FFIV PSP.

[Anonymous No.8130449]

>>8119213
Egoraptor sucks in the big pictures but somehow that tiny handful of sequelitis videos he made are all really good. Even the Ocarina one made some good points that nintendo babbies are still crying and wailing about.

[Anonymous No.8130484]

>>8130154
>where the FUCK is the best spot to grind for the bomb summon im going INSANE
In the SNES version, the Bomb summon only drops from Ballons and Grenades. I don't know about Pixel Remaster. But if it's the same, that means either Upper Bab-il or the Lunar surface (including the caves iirc).

[Anonymous No.8130535]

>>8130154
And looking at Encounter rates, there are Tower of Bab-il B1 looks like the best odds of getting a Bomb drop. There are two encounters with Balloons, a 3 Balloon battle with a 16% chance and a 4 balloon battle with a 12% chance.
B2 has a 16% chance of 4 balloons and 12% chance of 2 balloons and b4 has 16% for 3 and 12% for 3. Pretty sure the math works out that B1 is the best odds.

Lunar surface has only one 16% encounter with 2 Balloons + 2 Grenades. The first lunar passage also has the same chance. the second lunar passage does not have any at all.

[Anonymous No.8130738]

>be bad knight
>feel bad for being bad knight
>become gay knight
>king is actually mindcontrolled
>robots and spaceships out of nowhere
>big villain is your brother and an alien and actually a good guy mind controlled by very evil dude whose motives are being evil
>spam flare and curaja
>also ether costs nine billion gs

[Anonymous No.8130761]

>>8117872
what are mods you want for the game
>a less stiff translation
>character portraits
>better UI/HUD
>better sprites

[Anonymous No.8130779]

>>8118085
What the fuck were they thinking?! This doesn't follow real world logic at all!? It's so unrealistic!

[Anonymous No.8130830]

>>8130738
I spammed Bahamut as opposed to Flare. Should I have done otherwise? Haven't played in forever.

[Anonymous No.8130838]

>>8130761
>character portraits

If you mean having them within the dialogue boxes: No. NO. The fucking character portraits are shit and have always been shit. They just distract and often detract from the emotional impact of the scenes, since they're always static and never change expressions, unlike the sprites.

[Anonymous No.8130841]

>>8130738
>>8130830
Just go the chad route and spam meteor.

[Anonymous No.8130854]

>>8130841
Doesn't Meteor take for fucking ever to cast?

Besides, I never leveled Rydia up enough to where she learned the damn spell.

[Anonymous No.8131023]

>>8129925
FFIII really needed the soundtrack rearrangement. The previous one was built for the DS hardware, which is just moderately better than GBA speakers. Imagine if the only modern rearrangement of FFI+II available was the PS1-downsampled GBA version. That's basically what we're dealing with here. However, the Pixel Remasters should at least be giving you a music option, which is even something the PSP versions of FFIII&IV did.
>>8130838
The only semidecent implementation of the character portraits was FFII on GBA, which did animate a handful of them.

[Anonymous No.8131052]

>>8130838
Cringe pretentious sperg-kun.

[Anonymous No.8131083]

>>8117972
Is the "Japanese" font workaround not in this Pixel Remaster?

[Anonymous No.8131093]

>>8131083
It works. Though there's better choices.

[Anonymous No.8131137]

Why don't they just give up and use the japanese font? the english one is so bad

[Anonymous No.8131173]

>>8131052
He 's right, though. At the very least, portraits were something the PSP version sensibly allowed you tovturn off (sensing a pattern?).

[Anonymous No.8131294]

>>8131137
Did the Pixel Remaster have a different font in the Japanese version?

[Anonymous No.8131297]

>>8131294
It's the same font, but much wider and not all scrunched up.

[Anonymous No.8131336]

>>8130830
>>8130738
What you should really be spamming is berserk.

[Anonymous No.8132014]

It wasn't worth it.

[Anonymous No.8132431]

>>8130484
Imagine caring about this for any reason other than completionism. You'll never use it.

[Anonymous No.8132434]

>>8128828
Only Tellah dies.

[Anonymous No.8133106]

>>8126897
I always wonder why Square Enix gave up on this guy so easily. He filled in the plothole of Rydia lacking a personal summon when her mom had one since you can assume the summoners had to be specially linked to one monster. Should've at least reintroduced him in TAY.

[Anonymous No.8133113]

>>8130484
What tool is this?

[Anonymous No.8133114]

>>8133106
Because Whyt-ness is problematic.

[Anonymous No.8133172]

>>8133106
I always assumed she just inherited the mist dragon as her personal summon as well. It is the summon she uses when she rescues you from golbez, after all, though obviously it was more for dramatic effect since there's zero reason to use it ever again.

[Anonymous No.8133176]

>>8119148
>>8120807
If your game doesn't magically spawn giga nigger guards to fuck you up when you mess with them, it's a shitty game

[Anonymous No.8133540]

>>8128828
>what were they thinking
We're making a cartoon videogame story for 9 year old boys, don't worry what pretentious youtube "critics" are going to say about it because they don't exist yet.

[Anonymous No.8133812]

>>8129925
they all sound good to me
especially the mysidia theme, sounds like peak uematsu goofy-ass shady town/people music

but yes, original soundtrack option would be nice for those that want it

[Anonymous No.8134056]

>>8118009
>>8117972
>font still isn't the same resolution, or on the same grid as the rest of the graphics
Nah it's still fucked but less fucked

[Anonymous No.8134092]

>>8132431
In 1992 I didn't have a lot of RPGs to play. I even tried to grind for the Adamant armor (which is ridiculous without using sirens, which I didn't have in the US version).
The bomb summon is basically a single-target version of the Mist Dragon. Its damage formula is based on the caster's hitpoints. It's theoretically useful against the CPU boss, if you don't have the Sylph summon yet, and on anything where you want to save some mana. (Most of the time, Virus will be a better choice for a single target enemy, though)

[Anonymous No.8134340]

>>8132014
Then why did you do it?

[Anonymous No.8134352]

>>8134340
I want to be the very best like no one ever was.

[Anonymous No.8134523]

>>8134352
Legend.

[Anonymous No.8134592]

>>8134523
DID SOMEONE SAY CHAOS?

[Anonymous No.8134615]

>>8120438
>calling them "Pixel Remasters" is a sham.
To be fair, the word "remaster" is already meaningless outside the context of film or audio.

[Anonymous No.8134657]

I have my driving wheel connected to my PC and it's a pain in the ass to disconnect and I've noticed a bug where pixel remaster doesn't like two controllers plugged in at once (inputs will drop, sometimes delay button presses) it's not unplayable but it's annoying as fuck. Is there a way to fix it by somehow getting steam or pixel remaster to only detect my gamepad controller?

[Anonymous No.8134691]

>>8118781
I had to hear it to believe it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPJbQtKaX7w
It does sound off. I mean compare it to the DS version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEYCGJYwvhM

[Anonymous No.8134705]

>>8134691
Too much violin in the PR version, I think. That kind of instrument just doesn't quite sell the "Decisive" part of a Decisive Battle.

[Anonymous No.8134714]

>>8134657
This happens with one controller. Still managed to beat all 4.

[Anonymous No.8134716]

>>8134691
Why do the first few notes remind me of Obi-Wan's ridiculous Krayt dragon call in the Star Wars Special Edition?

[Anonymous No.8134719]

>>8134705
FFII was the only one that truly sounded great.

[Anonymous No.8134727]

>>8133540
...but only one character dies idiots

[Anonymous No.8134741]

>>8134714
I know it's doable but it's seriously a pain in the ass. What the fuck is it that causes it?

[Anonymous No.8134769]

>>8134719
I dislike how they got rid of the overworld extension that's existed since the Wonderswan version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QgHeyDvAaY

[Anonymous No.8135025]

>>8134769
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DrSxz0RPw3c
i wish they used this, personally

[Anonymous No.8135064]

>>8134769
Did you play FF2PR? You'd be incorrect.

[Anonymous No.8135075]

>>8134769
PR is better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wTRXLnlzcA

[Anonymous No.8135092]

>>8135025
It doesn't fit with the rest of the game IMHO. Thoughts on the (horrible sounding) track they used later in FFVI?

[Anonymous No.8135095]

>>8135092
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K97IZdzdKvc this one

[Anonymous No.8135096]

Thinking about it, I think Square Enix biggest problem is that they listened to their japanese fans way too hard.
Starting from VII,
>VIII
They love VII, go bigger and better, fuck we're all out of time and resources
>IX
oh fuck they hated VIII, go back to what they loved back in the original stuff
>X
okay we got some money, let's try to do VII again but more in line to the original series.
>XII
people kept complaining about the linearity of X, fine we'll give them more stuff to do. Oh fuck we ran out of time again.
>XIII
people hated XII because apparently it's lacking in the story department? fine put all full engines on that.
>XIII sequels
fuck, they hated the linearity, fine go full balls to the wall, some people are starting to retroactively like XII so let's make LR somewhat like it.
>XV
okay so people want more of the story of XIII, the political setting, hunts and open world of XII okay we'll do it bigger and better. oh fuck we ran out of money and time.

[Anonymous No.8135115]

>>8135092
>>8135095
a little too repetitive for a dungeon theme but the game could've used more dungeon music. i like the airship theme because it would've played for the first time you get the upper hand over the empire.

[Anonymous No.8135130]

>>8135075
I don't think it is, at least the PS1 version. The Pixel Remaster has got too much going on for what's supposed to be a overworld map theme, and loses the understated yet bold meloncholy bleakness of the older versions in favor of morphing into a more typical fit of whimsical instrumentation. Maybe the arrangement would work better as part of a new opening or something, but in general I'm not a fan of the Pixel Remaster looping (FFIII map being an exception). I'm sure a more qualified music theorist might be able to explain it better.

[Anonymous No.8135163]

>>8135130
>looping
The song is like 2 minutes long.

[Anonymous No.8135178]

>>8135130
Why does that guy look like notorious Hollywood pedo Jeffrey Jones, albeit a little slimmer?

[Anonymous No.8135187]

>>8135075
Literally the best song in all 4 PR games released to date. 2nd best? Pandaemonium, also in FF2.

[Anonymous No.8135239]

>>8120438
This animation moves too fast, I wanted to admire the pixels.

[Anonymous No.8135261]

>>8135187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37nRxcsG45g

[Anonymous No.8135387]

>>8134340
I severely underestimated how much it would ruin the fun of the game.

[Anonymous No.8135412]

>>8135130
>The Pixel Remaster has got too much going on for what's supposed to be a overworld map theme, and loses the understated yet bold meloncholy bleakness of the older versions in favor of morphing into a more typical fit of whimsical instrumentation
just wanted to call you very retarded

[Anonymous No.8135420]

>>8135412
I think he means the flutes are gay.

[Anonymous No.8135445]

>>8135096
They honestly thought people thought VII was good because of the cutscenes, so they made the entire game of VIII a cutscene.

[Anonymous No.8135449]

>>8135445
i can see what they wanted to do with viii but honestly with how fucked they shot themselves in the foot, they couldn't put half the stuff they wanted in the game. it really needed a year or two of extra polish.

[Anonymous No.8135480]

>>8117972
Why would people play these instead of the 3d remakes which for some reason have even mroe soul than the original?

[Anonymous No.8135720]

>>8135387
Achievement should NEVER be the focus of playing a videogame.

[Anonymous No.8135726]

>>8135480
lol at your objectively bad opinion

[Anonymous No.8135887]

>>8126778
Pshaw. The new Mysidia is perfect, down to the animal yelping.

[Anonymous No.8135894]

>>8129919
I mean, this IS Japan we're talking about.

[Anonymous No.8135919]

Is the Developer's Room the same or different?

[Anonymous No.8135927]

>>8135919
It is closed.

[Anonymous No.8135939]

>>8135420
i think he's gay. and very retarded

[Anonymous No.8135940]

>>8135927
Balls.

[Anonymous No.8136016]

>>8135927
Damn. Even the DS version had that room open. How half-assed.

[Anonymous No.8136276]

>>8118781
>>8134691
How it's like to live with cerebral palsy?

[Anonymous No.8136281]

>>8134691
DS sounds awful.

[Anonymous No.8136427]

>>8136016
>half-assed

have you seen the size of the new end credits?
these games aren't made by 12 man teams anymore

[Anonymous No.8136486]

>>8136427
Lol, yes, they are probably the size of the entire SNES ROM.

[Anonymous No.8136761]

>>8136427
Too many cooks in the kitchen is what it is.