/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7897592]

thoughts?

[Anonymous No.7897594]

Every system without Sonic games is 0/10.

[Anonymous No.7897597]

I have one of those sitting in my basement still. The CD holder at the top is packed with a bunch of burrned pirated games.

[Anonymous No.7897602]

>>7897592
PC towers should still look like this. All see-through, RGB shit belongs in the trash.

[Anonymous No.7897607]

>>7897594
We're talking about a Sega Genesis in this thread, anon. Of course it has Sonic games.

[Anonymous No.7897610]

>>7897597
Hold on to it, they're getting rather collectable.

[Anonymous No.7897619]

>>7897610
>they're getting rather collectable.
That's hard to believe

[Anonymous No.7897624]

>>7897619
It's like a first car. PC guys want their first machine back.

[Anonymous No.7897629]

>>7897619
Kek this. I seriously doubt there’s a lucrative collector’s market for shitty old Hewlett Packards in the same way people collect classic Macintoshes or the Apple II.

[Anonymous No.7897631]

>>7897629
Look at the ebay prices on them.
Used to be they weren't even worth 10 bucks.

[Anonymous No.7897660]

Can it play mechwarrior 3 and 4?

[Anonymous No.7897682]

>>7897660
Absolutely.

[Anonymous No.7897705]

>>7897594
>Every system without Sonic games is 0/10.

Pentium III should run this just fine.

[Anonymous No.7897708]

>>7897705

[Anonymous No.7897718]

>>7897594
>>7897705
BTFO

[Anonymous No.7897721]

>>7897705

Also: Y2K compliant

[Anonymous No.7897725]

>>7897721

[Anonymous No.7897726]

>>7897682
shit, i still have this exact machine in the loft somewhere

[Anonymous No.7897745]

>>7897725

Sega released quite a few Sonic games on the PC. But even back then, you could download a copy of Genecyst emulator for DOS and just play the ROM's.

[Anonymous No.7897747]

>look in bargain bin
>see this for $5
whatdo

[Anonymous No.7897753]

>>7897745

[Anonymous No.7897768]

>>7897753
We get it anon.

[Anonymous No.7897780]

>>7897592
That's funny, my Neo Geo looked like this.

[Anonymous No.7897787]

Still using these every day.

[Anonymous No.7897806]

>>7897768
>We get it anon.

I think I ran out of Sonic PC games to post anyway. That Sonic & Garfield box is great, it makes me wish it was a real cross-over game.

[Anonymous No.7897890]

>>7897607
>>7897592
>>7897705
Help me out bros, we had a HP like that in the mid 90s, it had windows 95 on it, but also came with a bunch of free software, encarta, explorers of the new world, whales, sonicCD, tuneworld, simple home etc. does anyone remember this? there was some windows 95 front end that had big sections like productiviy, games, untilities, and so on . each section had a little voice clip that would play.

im going crazy because ive never seen this stuff mentioned anywhere and no YT "booting up old hewlett packard" video seems to have that software

[Anonymous No.7897906]

>>7897890
>im going crazy because ive never seen this stuff mentioned anywhere and no YT "booting up old hewlett packard" video seems to have that software

Don't worry. That sounds like a normal software bundle from HP. Dell did something similar. I have never owned one of those PC's, but it sounds really common. Tomb Raider 1 and 2m as well as Quake 2 were also commonly bundled with PC's's.

[Anonymous No.7897970]

>>7897780
>That's funny, my Neo Geo looked like this.

Neo-Rage X.

[Anonymous No.7897978]

>>7897890
Could it have been a Packard Bell instead? Ours had all the same things installed, if memory serves.

[Anonymous No.7897980]

>>7897592
Second best PC I'd ever owned. (Best was a Compaq Presario with Windows 98)

[Anonymous No.7897981]

>>7897978
No we had a Packard Bell after that, it had other software like Kiddonet, which I did find once on some yt video. For almost 20 years we had the original recovery CDs saved for it, and last year when i got the computer out of the basement to reinstall the software on it the CD was nowhere to be found. and every archive.org packard bell recovery disc iso you can download doesnt have the right software on it.

[Anonymous No.7898008]

>>7897981
>No we had a Packard Bell after that, it had other software like Kiddonet, which I did find once on some yt video. For almost 20 years we had the original recovery CDs saved for it, and last year when i got the computer out of the basement to reinstall the software on it the CD was nowhere to be found. and every archive.org packard bell recovery disc iso you can download doesnt have the right software on it.


Interesting. Packard Bell definitely did package the game with their PC's. Checck out this old post from the year 2000 with the developer who ported Sonic CD to the PC:

http://www.sonic-cult.org/dispart.php?catid=1&gameid=5&subid=2&artid=2
> Sonic CD was first. The idea was supposedly "hatched" at a Silicon Valley face-to-face meeting of Andy Grove (who then was CEO of Intel; he is now chairman of the board) and the CEO of Sega. I think his name was Idei-san or Toyoda-san. I can't remember. I may be confusing with our relationship with Sony!
> We ended up selling about 5 million copies of the OEM version of the game. Over 3 million of those went to Packard Bell. Another big buyer was Hewlett Packard. And a handful of others. The games was "bundled" with PC's, i.e., came "in the box" with new PC's.

Packard bell bought more than 3 million copies of Sonic CD and packaged it with their PC's?

[Anonymous No.7898023]

>>7897594
You bing bing wahoo kids are total faggots

[Anonymous No.7898035]

>>7897981
>No we had a Packard Bell after that, it had other software like Kiddonet, which I did find once on some yt video. For almost 20 years we had the original recovery CDs saved for it, and last year when i got the computer out of the basement to reinstall the software on it the CD was nowhere to be found. and every archive.org packard bell recovery disc iso you can download doesnt have the right software on it.

By the looks of it Sonic CD was packaged on a separate disc. This would make sense, since Sonic CD uses streaming audio from the disc. Image related is what the game disc would have looked like. Going to take a guess and say that it also came in a plain jewel case with no labels.

[Anonymous No.7898039]

>>7897594
There were Sonic games on PC even in the Windows 95 era. Why do you think people recognize the "lost" music from the Sonic 3 beta?

[Anonymous No.7898076]

>>7897592
I like these old Hp and Dell shitters for the way they look, I pick em up if I see them on the side of the road.

[Anonymous No.7898148]

>>7897780
that looks just like my supergun

[Anonymous No.7898152]

>>7898008
That's a heck of a lot of copies of Sonic CD.

[Anonymous No.7898154]

>>7898076
I used to think they were awful looking but looking at them now I love the design.
Hmm.

[Anonymous No.7898156]

>>7897981
>No we had a Packard Bell after that, it had other software like Kiddonet, which I did find once on some yt video. For almost 20 years we had the original recovery CDs saved for it, and last year when i got the computer out of the basement to reinstall the software on it the CD was nowhere to be found. and every archive.org packard bell recovery disc iso you can download doesnt have the right software on it.

If it was included with your Packard Bell it would be on a different disc. It would have also been kind of dumb to have put a kids game that requires a CD ROM on the same disc as your PC recovery data. That recovery disc would be inoperable and scratched to shit.

[Anonymous No.7898162]

Packard Bell Win98 computers have a higher Sonic CD attach rate than the actual Sega CD did.

[Anonymous No.7898285]

>>7898156
Sorry let me clarify. the Packard Bell recovery CD had the OS and some stock programs on it as seen in this video https://youtu.be/CC7ql5ui7LQ?t=722

SonicCD looked like this >>7898035 and ame with bundled set of about 15 discs with a Hewlett Packard Pavilion with Windows 95.

[Anonymous No.7898387]

>>7898285
>SonicCD looked like this >>7898035 and ame with bundled set of about 15 discs with a Hewlett Packard Pavilion with Windows 95.

Ah, thanks for the answer (not the anon who was asking about the Sonic bundle). HP did include some pretty large software packages.

[Anonymous No.7898573]

>>7898387
>>7898285
actually i take that back, the one that came with the HP set was the white sonic not the colored one

[Anonymous No.7898584]

>>7897592
i have that exact computer packed away, it doesn't work anymore but do you think there's a way to get the files off it

[Anonymous No.7898602]

>>7898584
>but do you think there's a way to get the files off it

You should be able to plug the harddrive into another PC, assuming you have some sort of ATA to SATA connection. Or something like that.

[Anonymous No.7898606]

>>7898573
>actually i take that back, the one that came with the HP set was the white sonic not the colored one

Interesting. Using the 'Sonic rolling' frame for the disc art is great. Doing a quick search for p/n 647107-001, this version is called: "Intel Dino Libraries Version".

[Anonymous No.7898609]

>>7897682
I had this exact machine - got it off a friend for $20 after he convinced his parents to buy him a new PC. The onboard USB ports died and I eventually moved it to a smaller case. Great machine

[Anonymous No.7898612]

>>7897592
Heyyyyy! That's my win98 PC. Mines a 6736. Wish it had an agp slot but it's small form factor is perfect. I suggest get a nice HDD, and dual boot win98 and fractora, devuan, or void Linux also ur gonna want a 16mb pci card, mines a rage 128 pci 16mb. Otherwise, graphics will look shitty. Memory wise, 128 is fine but 256 is really all you need. I got 512, just cause I found another 256 for 1$. They have pc100 slots

[Anonymous No.7898676]

>>7897787
I still have this set from that weird time in the late 90s to early 00s when PCs had a quadraphonic standard, but not yet native 5.1 output.
The setup diagram uses a Dreamcast for the example of use with a console instead of a PC.
https://content.etilize.com/User-Manual/10920941.pdf

[Anonymous No.7898683]

>>7898584
They sell cheap IDE to USB adapters on ebay that work well.

[Anonymous No.7898950]

>>7898008
>>7898152
Pretty sure I got a free copy of Sonic CD at the Jack in the Box drivethru.

[Anonymous No.7899123]

>>7897592

i wanna go back bro's.....

[Anonymous No.7900736]

I remember being psyched to get time with my Aunt's HP Pavilion because it had an incredible 1ghz Pentium 3 in it compared to my Pentium I machine at home. It could actually emulate CPS2 at full speed without frame skipping.
She went out and bought this controller for her grandson and apparently he played the crap out of it later on after I set it up for her. I think I put ZSNES with about 350 roms on there for him.

[Anonymous No.7901056]

>>7897721
Yep, this was my first. >>7897725 Was in the pack too

[Anonymous No.7901110]

>>7897970
Based

[Anonymous No.7903206]

>>7900736
I broke the screw-in joy stick the first time I used the Gravis game pad pro. Definitely not good for fighting games.

[Anonymous No.7903519]

>>7898950
>Pretty sure I got a free copy of Sonic CD at the Jack in the Box drivethru.


>>7898008
>> We ended up selling about 5 million copies of the OEM version of the game. Over 3 million of those went to Packard Bell. Another big buyer was Hewlett Packard. And a handful of others. The games was "bundled" with PC's, i.e., came "in the box" with new PC's.

The developer did say that they sold 5 million OEM versions of Sonic CD. 3 of those 5 mullion were sold to HP, with another 2 million OEM copies distributed out elsewhere. Like Jack-in-the-Box? This is OEM (no packaging, sold in bulk for bundles) and not the retail boxed copy. Sonic CD was such a common game to find in PC game bargain bins in department stores and such. Most of the "Expert Software" games were like that.

[Anonymous No.7903579]

>>7903519
I remember that Jack in the Box promotion. Feels

[Anonymous No.7904119]

>>7903579
>I remember that Jack in the Box promotion. Feels

I can't find an image for Jak-in-the-Box Sonic CD. But there were clearly others too.

[Anonymous No.7904146]

>>7904119
Seeing those images are a blast from the past. I remember the bag had a different graphic. Perhaps they ran more than one promo?

[Anonymous No.7904151]

>>7897592
Would a socket 754 motherboard with an AGP port be too late or just right?

[Anonymous No.7904363]

>>7897753
This game was unironically kino and trippy, despite how short and shallow it is.

[Anonymous No.7904650]

>>7904151
>Would a socket 754 motherboard with an AGP port be too late or just right?

It depends if you want to go 64bit or not. There's a lot of good choices for a 754. You could still run 32bit OS's and it might be nice for the Windows XP/ Vista era. This would work better with Vista 64bit or another (linux) 64bit OS.

[Anonymous No.7904653]

>>7904151
>Would a socket 754 motherboard with an AGP port be too late or just right?

It depends if you want to go 64bit or not. There's a lot of good AMD64 CPU choices for a 754. You could still run 32bit OS's and it might be nice for the Windows XP/ Vista era. This would work better with Vista 64bit or another (linux) 64bit OS.

[Anonymous No.7904673]

>>7904363
>This game was unironically kino and trippy, despite how short and shallow it is.

Sega's attempt at edutainment for the PC. Nintendo's Teaching Typing 2 is also really trippy, and the first time Charles Martinet voices Mario:

https://youtu.be/PjyChE4NFXk?t=77

[Anonymous No.7904682]

>>7904653
It came out of one of these old HP towers. The CPU is a single core AMD 3000. I was thinking about a emulation station or making it a dedicated MAME station with DOS installed. I think it may be too new for that though. I understand that older architectures may be better suited for an auto starting MAME system. I'm roughly citing an older thread that was last week sometime. I cannot remember exactly.

[Anonymous No.7904751]

>>7904682
>It came out of one of these old HP towers. The CPU is a single core AMD 3000. I was thinking about a emulation station or making it a dedicated MAME station with DOS installed. I think it may be too new for that though.

It's not one of the higher end AMD CPU's from that line. But 64bit though, and can do 32bit OS's just fine like Windows 98. A Pentium 4 is great for all of that. Though, AMD CPU's are cheap. Find a good motherboard, and you can play around with different AMD64 CPU's, and they don't really cost much.

[Anonymous No.7904764]

>>7904751

here's a few of my own AMD CPU's, with a Core2Duo mixed in. The Athlon II has seen better days.

[Anonymous No.7904817]

>>7904764
>this is what /vr/ has become

[Anonymous No.7904824]

>>7904817
>>this is what /vr/ has become

I'm not a collector of this kind of thing. Those are just some of the CPU's that I actually owned and used in my own PC's. I also have a PIII, a PII, Celeron, and another Duron, somewhere.

[Anonymous No.7904840]

>>7904817
Discussing CPU's for emulation stations. Emulation of retro games. I'm failing to see whats wrong with epitomizing /vr/ by propagating discussion of older hardware for emulation.

[Anonymous No.7904846]

>>7904817
>>this is what /vr/ has become

the AMD Athlon 2400+ thoroughbred is totally retro 32bit CPU. released around the same time as the PIII. Used it in my Windows XP machine, and then ran Linux on it. AMD Duron lower-end CPU. That one runs at 1.6GHz.

[Anonymous No.7904847]

>>7897980
My compaq presario with 98
Still runs great

[Anonymous No.7904862]

>>7904846
I have one of those. Beautiful tower. Rifle cooler.

[Anonymous No.7904907]

>>7904764

But I want to say that the 2006 Core2Duo E7500 can still handily run Windows 10. So could the Athlon II, though that is a 2009 part.

[Anonymous No.7905721]

>>7898148

Would run this on my old Pentium Celeron 466MHz. Sometimes I would also use SNES9x as well. But ZSNES always got the best performance.

[Anonymous No.7905843]

>>7897592
That was my first PC

[Anonymous No.7905927]

>>7905721
>But ZSNES always got the best performance.

On the same machine, I would also use Connetix Virtual Game Station emulator. I also had a purchased copy of Bleem. But Bleem ran like a disaster on my PC. Connetix was not perfect, but games were generally playable 90% of the time. I would go to the rental store and pick up games like Metal gear Solid, Ridge Racer Type 4, Silent Hill, Castlevania SOTN, Wipeout 3, Tekken 3, Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped and play them all on connectix, using a Gravis GamePad Pro connected to a PC soundcard. Sometimes I would even make ISO's out of the rented discs and keep them on my PC for extended amounts of time.

[Anonymous No.7905931]

>>7897592
The Amstrad one is better but good nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.7905942]

>>7897592
had that exact one even the same Cd burner and completely forgot. I remember that little cd holder at the top. And the port flap was satisfying. Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.7905947]

>>7897607
I loved that volume knob on the keyboard. Great memories

[Anonymous No.7906052]

>>7897592
We got so many of these pieces of shit at the PC repair place I worked at. Each one was covered in orange dust on the inside and reeked of fucking cigarette smoke.

[Anonymous No.7906381]

I have these two machines. The tall one has a Duron CPU, but it is soldered right into the motherboard and cannot be removed. The other system has a Pentium 3 with an AGP card.

[Anonymous No.7906398]

I have these two machines. The tall one has a Duron CPU, but it is soldered right into the motherboard and cannot be removed. The other system has a Pentium 3 with an AGP card.

[Anonymous No.7906531]

>>7906398
Very nice machines, good broad compatibility

[Anonymous No.7906827]

>>7906531
>Very nice machines, good broad compatibility

My aunt gave both of them to me a couple years ago. Neither were mine. The Blue stripped case with the AMD Duron is interesting because it has a non-removable CPU. It is attached right to the board with no socket. It also has built-in graphics and sound. It does have two PCI slots no AGP, and you can upgrade the RAM. Other than that, it is a big empty case with a motherboard, HDD, DVD Drive and Power Supply. The smaller system beside it is a Pentium III, I may do something with that.

[Anonymous No.7906841]

>>7906827
Integrated hardware was a thing. Didn't really work for the likes of Dell. I remember their old beige boxes having integrated hardware. Bloody boo

[Anonymous No.7906857]

>>7906841
>Integrated hardware was a thing. Didn't really work for the likes of Dell. I remember their old beige boxes having integrated hardware. Bloody boo


Took a photo of the motherboard. Has the part number on it.

[Anonymous No.7906865]

http://www.motherboard.cz/mb/ecs/K7SOM75C.htm
>>7906857
CPU On Board
Hardware Monitoring
USB 2.0
Chipset
SiS740/962L chipset with integrated advanced 128-bit 2D/3D graphic engine
LPC I/O ?V ITE IT8705F
System Hardware Monitor: Integrated in ITE IT8705F
LAN ?V 10/100Mbps Faster Ethernet (optional)
Audio ?V AC'97 Codec CMI9738A
Main Memory
Two 184-pin 2.5V DDR SDRAM (DDR200/266)
Max. 1GB

Remeber SiS graphics? Looks like a 1.4-1.6GHz Duron to me.

[Anonymous No.7906869]

>>7906857
It's an older architecture. Perhaps a Socket A Pin Grid Array. Hopefully an anon that is in the know can correct me. I believe there is a way to upgrade these with de-soldering. And upgrade-able options are limited.
>Citation needed

[Anonymous No.7906895]

>>7906869
>It's an older architecture. Perhaps a Socket A Pin Grid Array

Part number on the CPU says: 27067
https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K7/AMD-Duron%201300%20-%20DHD1300AMT1B.html

It's a Duron 1300mhz. Almost exactly what I thought it was. I have owned a couple Duron's, and recognized it. But it could have been a Athlon. I would not do anything with this. Myself. It was given to me.

[Anonymous No.7908127]

>>7897592
Are there any good modern PSU which has the fan on the bottom (and rear exhaust)? Back in those days, the PSU was at the top-rear of the case, and was part of the exhaust for the case airflow.

I would probably house these in a classic styled case as they were more compact but still had the room for ATX, and I want a modern one for longevity of the parts, but unfortunately modern power supplies would have their large top fan against a wall if installed into a classic case.

[Anonymous No.7908162]

>>7908127
Most power supplies are designed so they can be mounted either fan up or fan down.

[Anonymous No.7908190]

>>7908162
Crap, then I guess the case I got only has screw mounts which only allow the orientation of modern power supplies to have the fan facing the top aluminum panel.

[Anonymous No.7908336]

>>7908127
>>7908190
Post a picture of the back of the case so we can be sure it wasn't some non-standard fuckery from back then.
But, most EVGA models specifically state the preferred mounting orientation is fan-down.

[Anonymous No.7909592]

>>7908336
Okay, I will look into the EVGA power supplies. The Corsair one only fits onto it in the orientation having the fan up.

[Anonymous No.7909948]

>>7904817
any hardware released after directx 8 should be haram

[Anonymous No.7911518]

>>7904824
cringe
>>7904840
turbo cringe

I can't even imagine what kind of colossal faggots you must be to want to circle jerk about CPUs on a gook toon vidya board.

[Anonymous No.7912630]

>>7908127
Awesome collection.

>>7909592
>The Corsair one only fits onto it in the orientation having the fan up.

I know someone who has a brand new Ryzen in an old 2002 PC case with the power supply on-top. Not really an issue mounting a newer PSU on an older top-mounted case.