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大きすぎます

>> No.7884265

>>7884225
HAMBAGAH.

>> No.7884308

>>7884225
He was better in Doom

>> No.7884370

>>7884225
>xbox failed in japan
haha never ever billy boy.

>> No.7884385
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>>7884370
Why did it fail? was it just simply tech jingoism like people usually say? or was there something else?

>> No.7884403
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>>7884225

>> No.7884413

>>7884385
loyalty to japanese products is maybe part of it, but that could be solved easily by sourcing japanese parts with the intention of making a japanese system. either way I don't believe they won't buy american. xbox failed because it was simply inferior to the dreamcast. Instead of a VMU memory card, you had an opaque green jewel. good move for ergonomics? I don't see it that way. I view this as a slap in the face from microsoft. It might have been an oversight, but the result is the same. why buy a machine like the xbox when it looks like a soul stripped dreamcast? All the major players in video games have had their roots in amusements and arcades. I'm talking cotton candy, light guns, roller coasters, arcades... If you want to put a successful console on the market, you better not have some half baked vision of what video games actually are. That only works if you are a giant like sony and manage to attract the people with real vision (like Namco), and guess what? sony already has that role.

>> No.7884414

>>7884403
>"You were always cool, Wozniak. Don't show up to Apple tomorrow."

>> No.7884419

i heard hes got a whole herd of nigger cattle

>> No.7884432
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BIRRU GEITSU?

>> No.7884439

>>7884413
>loyalty to japanese products is maybe part of it
Keiji Inafune once mentioned this being the case but it doesn't explain the popularity of Apple in Japan.

>> No.7884445

>>7884439
because it's not all of it. keep reading.

>> No.7884516

>>7884385
No fuckin games.

>> No.7884534

>>7884439
Apple products are big hulking black boxes with oversized controllers and a predilection for shooters, sports titles, and western RPGs. Xbox was one of the most aggressively and obnoxiously 'MURICA video game products (Xbox 360 was slightly better) ever released, and I say that as an American.

>> No.7884536

>>7884534
>Apple products are big hulking black boxes
*aren't

>> No.7884538

>>7884516
more games than the cube- yes, even ones suited for jap sensibilities

>> No.7884546

>>7884538
Trailer trash American XBox fan delusions. I can't judge you for still engaging in console war bullshit, because I hate XBox myself, but I can sure as hell judge you for lying out your ass about Xbox and the Gamecube's libraries.

>> No.7884556

It would've been a much smarter move for Microsoft to prop up the Dreamcast instead of entering the market by themselves. Of course it worked out fine for them in America but having Sega as the public face for Microsoft hardware would've got them more attention in Europe and Japan

>> No.7884565

>>7884538
Extreme cope

>> No.7884567

>>7884546
>>7884516
You will never play JSRF or Panzer Dragoon Orta, snoy

>> No.7884571

>>7884538
Niche otaku games don't appeal to the mass japanese market dumbfuck. Do you think a salaryman who grew up on Dragon Quest or preteen shitters want to play CAVE shit or im@s? Get a clue. Xbox had zero games

>> No.7884575

>>7884546
GameCube had the best version of Chaos Field. There was nothing else worth playing on it.

>> No.7884658

>>7884571
>Do you think a salaryman who grew up on Dragon Quest or preteen shitters want to play CAVE shit or im@s?
Confusing the XBOX with the X360 isn't doing you any favors. Nor being proud of your ignorance.

>> No.7884721

>>7884536
>>7884534
You know what, as a non-American, I have to agree with this.
Xbox just kept traction post-chip-based-piracy-era in our country because the price is more accesible than PlayStation's and Microsoft accept our currency.
Mexico here.

>> No.7884752

Gates’s smug aura mocks me.

>> No.7884763

>>7884385
No games.
Specifically, no Japanese games.

>> No.7884764

Birru-kun...

>> No.7884781

>>7884721
>mexico
>non-american

>> No.7884782

>>7884413
maybe they just dropped VMUs for being a dumbass idea

>> No.7884786

>>7884781
They’re as American as Turks are European.

>> No.7884796

xbox in japan was like saturn in america, completely mismatched intent vs. market. It doesn't help that Japanese devs who would have been putting out Xbox games were unwilling or unable to develop for it. I don't know if you would ever get a straight answer out of Japanese devs as to why they didn't go for it; Japanese would rather lie than be public and direct about the problem.

>> No.7884813

>>7884439
Apple products are well-designed for a global target audience. There's nothing about them that is "america-specific". The same can't be said about Xbox; It's more like other American products in Japan, which Japanese friends have explained, often ignore market differences or just plain don't change shit that should adapt to the local culture. Best example given was american cars; Apparently, US automakers don't even make them right-side drive in Japan, even though they drive on the opposite side of the road to US. You're just expected to put up with the wheel being on the wrong side for the roads. Some people will do that, sure, but not many compared to those who offer a product fit for your market.

It reminds me of kinect. Kinect was clearly designed for middle america, where home sizes would warrant a big family room. The marketing for Kinect in Japan was absurd, as they pushed this diagram showing how in a small apartment, you could still play it if you put it in a corner and stood at the opposite corner of the room. Once again, they didn't design or modify the product to fit the market, they just stubbornly insisted that it was good as-is and that you are the problem for not having US-style home and lifestyle. That's not exactly a resounding message for success.

>> No.7884838 [DELETED] 

>>7884813
>Best example given was american cars; Apparently, US automakers don't even make them right-side drive in Japan
but they do it for the UK and Aussie market? nah, I'm calling bullshit.

>> No.7884840
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>>7884813
>Best example given was american cars; Apparently, US automakers don't even make them right-side drive in Japan
But they do it for the UK and Aussie market? nah, I'm calling bullshit.

>> No.7884846

>>7884225
Did they shop him to look more asian?

>> No.7884860
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>>7884846
Probably

>> No.7884898

>>7884840
I've not found any examples of these right-side drive cars actually being sold in Japan, despite their manufacture for other markets. The ones that I have seen mentioned as being sold as right-hand drive was Jeeps. Admittedly, this could also be a product of their own weak sales; I have read that GM has, as of a few years ago, largely restricted their sales of cars in Japan to certain "special" models that might appeal to the rare Japanese US auto enthusiast. Given the lack of sales this would naturally bring with it, it's unlikely they'd then do separate construction for them, especially given that being "unique imports" is likely another selling point to this unusual customer.

>> No.7884907

>>7884898
>>7884840
If I recall correctly, in Ace Attorney 2, in the Japanese version, the case with the girl pretending to be her sister, the Japanese version made it a point that the car was an American car so she was driving in the opposite side for the sake of the contradiction in her testimony.
This go localized in the US as "an European sportscar".

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>>7884225
look at his eyes, did they somehow make him look more Asian???
Also WTF IS THAT CONTROLLER????
THIS is what an Xbox controller looks like. Wtf is with those buttons on the left side.
Also I forgot but why the fuck does the Xbox have the white and black button when it already has Start and Back button? What's with that overkill. Doesn't exist anymore on 360. Been a while since I last played Xbox so I am confused why this was needed and when it got used and what for.

>> No.7885156

>>7885053
There's only L and R on the OG Xbox controller, no L2 and R2. For soul calibur II I used the white and black buttons for grabs, can't think of any other games I used them for though.

>> No.7885173

>>7885156
Flash light, grenade switch, and PTT in Halo bb

>> No.7885226

>>7885053
looks like a prototype of the xbox small controller with the black and white on both sides. pretty neat

>> No.7885247

>>7884385
Jingoism was part of it but the reality is Xbox launched when home consoles died. After PS2 dedicated home consoles haven't sold more than 13 million, and they usually sell sub-10m

>> No.7885252

>>7885247
I'm talking about Japan obv

>> No.7885258

>>7884840
I've seen Chevy cars in Japan with steering on the right side. They still pulled out of that market

>> No.7885825

>>7885258
I'm struggling to think of any Chevrolet that was officially sold in Japan; aside from the Cavalier, which was sold as a Toyota over there.
Looking at the Chevrolet Japan website, it seems Corvette and Camaro make up the entire current lineup.

>> No.7885872

I wonder if some autist will replicate that controller like that one guy did with the Ultra 64 prototype controller.

>> No.7886404 [DELETED] 

>>7884432
TRANIME SHITPOSTER?

>> No.7886406

>>7884225
Why does he have lady hands?

>> No.7886568
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>>7885825
I saw a Cavalier. I didn't know how they were distributed in Japan I just remembered the car had the Chevy emblem

And there are other Chevy models in Japan with the emblem, but apparently they're distributed through Toyota as well

>> No.7886574 [DELETED] 

Fuck the rule change

>> No.7886576

>>7886406
rich boy

>> No.7886579

>>7886406
Comes from a rich family, never had to do any real labor.

>> No.7886586

>>7886576
>>7886579
True but that's not what I mean, It think those hands are like a hand models hands or is that the joke and it went over my head and now I look dumb.

>> No.7886590

>>7886586
It's not a joke though, he has well kept hands and fingernails because he never had to do any sort of manual work other than typing on a keyboard

>> No.7886615

>>7886590
Bill is a business man, he probably can't even type.

>> No.7886836

A large percentage of the Xbox library wasn't localized at all. They'd routinely leave everything in English and only swap the region coding. And they never even tried to release several major games like the Mortal Kombats. The effort was half assed.

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7886871

Why is his smile hiding, /vr/?

>> No.7886873
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What is his smile hiding, /vr/?

>> No.7886902

>>7886873
BSOD

>> No.7886942

Birr Gaito-sama

>> No.7886950

>>7884534
On the opposite, the PC Engine failed in the West for exactly the opposite reason. It and its library was too Japanese and inaccessible for most.

>> No.7886968

lyl now you see how the Famicom was considered too cutesy for Americans and they had to turn it into a gray cinder block.