I think that the Sega 32X is underappreciated

[Anonymous No.7859697]

The Sega 32X was an add on for the Sega Genesis and was introduced rather late in the console's life. The 32X plays 32 bit games such as ports of Star Wars arcade, Primal Rage, and DOOM, as well as the Virtua series of video games. The 32X gets a lot of crap for what it is. I can't hate on it if I am being honest. All it does is play 32X games, and when a console (or add on) can only play it's games and do nothing else, all that matters is whether the games are good. There are pretty good games on the 32X. Take Doom for example. Okay it's nowhere near as good as the PlayStation version, and the 32X Doom is unfinished (which is a shame) but what does exist of it is promising. At least it has good controls, frame rate, and visible graphics unlike the abomination that is the SNES port of Doom.

[Anonymous No.7859702]

>>7859697
So your praising DOOM 32x for being a shitty game because it's less shittier than a shitty SNES game? So this is the power of cope

[Anonymous No.7859725]

>>7859702
I disagree about it being shitty. It's incomplete but it was promising at the same time.
It's playable, and it's tolerable. Everyone would prefer it over the SNES version.

[Anonymous No.7859726]

>>7859697
knuckles chaotix is the best sanic gaem
and kolibri is the best hummingbird-based shmup on any system hands down

32x is un-appreciated
but its mostly deserved so i wouldnt call it "under"
now the sega CD on the other hand

[Anonymous No.7859736]

it has some decent games but sega would have been better off putting money into the developing and promoting the sega virtua processor if they wanted to extend the life of the game. of course they'd also have to figure out how to bring those costs down too.

[Anonymous No.7859752]

>>7859736
I agree with some people that it would have turned out better as it's own console (the cancelled Neptune) than an add on personally.

[Anonymous No.7859784]

I mean it's 2021, no skin off your back betting on the wrong company anymore. All failed consoles can be enjoyed now.

[Anonymous No.7859820]

>>7859725
>pay $160 for a incomplete shitty doom port.
Nah. Everyone "underappreciated" 32X for being useless.

[Anonymous No.7859851]

>>7859726
Chaotix is fucking bad
>>7859697
The 32x was fucking awful with a very limited library and the hardware itself was very prone to failure. I had a CD and a 32x as a kid. The CD was still working years later at my grandmother's. That 32X never fucking worked right after like the first few months we had it. Anyone talking up the 32x is completely blinded by their love for Sega

[Anonymous No.7859859]

>>7859697
>There are pretty good games on the 32X.
Yes, there are. Still not that much better than the original genesis versions.
>Take Doom for example
Bad, bad pick
>was introduced rather late in the console's life.
And ruined segas reputation quite a bit.

[Anonymous No.7859864]

>>7859752
>that it would have turned out better as it's own console
Releasing two consoles at the same time, sure that would work.

[Anonymous No.7859869]

>>7859697
sega should have picked either this or the saturn and run with it, both had tons of untapped potential

[Anonymous No.7859876]

>>7859869
>both had tons of untapped potential
Sure, as a 4th gen addon it had potential, as a 5th gen contender? No.

[Anonymous No.7859881]

>>7859876
>as a 5th gen contender

no loading times were a huge plus for one

[Anonymous No.7859884]

>>7859726
Both addons had great stuff that I liked. The pricing is the primary factor which doomed them. The CD gave the effects, but didn't help in the greatest issue which was the palette and display color count.

>>7859869
I am glad they went with the Saturn, as that system is one of my most favorites. Still the 32X did have games I really enjoyed like Virtua Racing. I wished the 32X also got more support as it was the main way for the Genesis to beat its crippling color limitations that held it back from the start.

[Anonymous No.7859886]

>>7859881
>no loading times were a huge plus for one
People accepted the loading times. They wanted the 3d graphics. And if you can choose between ridge racer on psx and virtua racing on 32x, you’ pick sony

[Anonymous No.7859887]

>>7859876
If it had games and a cheap price point, probably could outsell Sony. Option to buy the Neptune or upgrade existing genesis, that could of been cool beans

[Anonymous No.7859898]

I think it's pretty cool that it's backwards compatible with genesis, you could just leave it in your genesis cart tray and never really have to take it out. If times were like in 2001 I'd maybe pick up a 32x for $3 just on the odd chance I'd ever find a 32x game worth playing. But that ain't happening now.

[Anonymous No.7859904]

>>7859887
>probably could outsell Sony
LoL. No. People had 17 years of 2d. They wanted something new.

[Anonymous No.7859910]

>>7859697
It being promising would mean something in 1994 or 1995 when there was still a chance that the 32x would go on to do more. It didn’t - that okay port of DOOM is basically the highpoint of it’s existence.

It should never have existed. It’s both a cause of Sega’s collapse and a symbol of the mentality that ruined the company. 0/10 worst add on of all time hands down. The Sega CD is cool, though.

[Anonymous No.7859937]

>>7859904
lookin back though those early 3d years were incredibly rough

[Anonymous No.7859958]

>>7859937
Just as the early 2d years

[Anonymous No.7859964]

>>7859697
saying that the 32x is underappreciated is more or less ignoring everything wrong with the idea at the time. it's an underdeveloped half baked piece of hardware that no game can justify. all that being said i own one

[Anonymous No.7860027]

>>7859851
nowhere near as bad as literally every sanic game on any platform

[Anonymous No.7860105]

>>7860027
You legitimately have shit tier taste if you think Chaotix is better than the Genesis games, CD, or Mania. I hope you consider rope.

[Anonymous No.7860316]

>>7859697
>I think that the Sega 32X is underappreciated
I think that you went to special ed.

>>7859820
This, the 32X was a really bad deal, it was way overpriced and then had poor software support, Sega realized they fucked up and dropped it like a hot potato.

Are there some games on it which are good? Sure, but consider that most aren't much better than on anything you could find for the regular Genesis and cheaper, and that the 32X was touted as a budget option for 32-bit gaming, when the Saturn was already out in Japan and coming to the US soon.

[Anonymous No.7860562]

They basically just didn't know that consoles would be on the cycle that they were. I don't blame them for the mistake the first time, but 32X wasn't the first time either so I don't know what to say. You can't just upgrade a console from 1988 into the future, that's not viable as a business strategy and winds up more expensive and less understood by consumers whenever you do it. It's not that the 32X was itself bad but we can all understand that it wasn't good strategy.

[Anonymous No.7860590]

32x was shit, it was a fucking mess that Sega blew millions on, now looking back I do think the CD was underrated but fuck the 32x.

[Anonymous No.7860593]

>>7859964
it was supposed to be a power up for the system people already owned,having to buy a new system every 5 years for 100s of bux seemed anti consumer

the 32x was a attempt at keeping costs low by upgrading what you already have like a graphics card for a pc

imagine spending 100 bux to turn your ps4 into a ps5?

problem is they didnt stick with it and released the saturn 8 months later which cucked them

[Anonymous No.7860691]

>>7860590
The CD wasn't everything it could be, and FMV games wasted its potential, largely, but it's actually a pretty nifty addon with a lot of cool games. Unlike the 32X, I think it had pretty decent reason to exist.

[Anonymous No.7860703]

>>7860593
The problem was the 32X as it was wasn't much of an upgrade. It had no dedicated video hardware, only 2 SH-2 CPUS with some RAM. All it can do is draw 32k colors to the screen, that's it. All graphics you see on the 32X are software rendered, even 2D stuff that's not using the Genesis hardware. That really limits what it can do and the Saturn easily outclasses it in every way.

Really Sega should have just cancelled the 32X and distributed it's games to the Genesis, Sega CD, and Saturn depending on which was the best fit.

[Anonymous No.7860735]

Sega should have communicated internally, and not thought of ITSELF in other regions as its fucking enemies. From that starting point, Sega could have made fewer mistakes. Fucking corporate equivalent of teenaged girls.

[Anonymous No.7860752]

>>7860735
This rumor needs to stop being spread. Sega of Japan and Sega of America fully communicated with each other. The 32X was Sega of Japan's idea and they asked Sega of America to design it to be out by the holidays of 1994 to compete with the Jaguar incase the Saturn couldn't release in time.

Sega of America at this time was fully aware of the Saturn and it's final hardware specs as they and other US based third party developers were already starting to make games for it. The Dual SH-2 CPU set up (the last minute change) was also final by this point as Sega of America's engineers liked that aspect of the Saturn and decided to use it in the 32X as well.

The issue was Sega never decided to cancel the 32X when they realized Saturn would release on time.

[Anonymous No.7861061]

I feel Sega shouldn't have made Sega CD and 32X, they should've put their resources into Saturn and Genesis. If they never made Sega CD and 32X, they probably would've come up with the idea of merging Saturn with Genesis. That probably would have given Saturn and Sega better popularity.

[Anonymous No.7861131]

I think the 32X and Sega CD were pretty cool, but they really should have never existed, desu. Sega should've jumped straight into Saturn.

[Anonymous No.7861136]

>>7861131
sega cd was sick though, loved having gamnes with minimal slowdown and cd osts, wish more got made for it.

[Anonymous No.7861162]

>>7861136
Sega Saturn would've had that and then some. It would just be a 3 year wait.

[Anonymous No.7861285]

>>7861061
The Mega CD would have been amazing if they had stuck to the original plan of a reasonably priced CD unit.

[Anonymous No.7861318]

>>7861285
I had a Sega CD in the early 90s and enjoyed it but the games were either FMV that looked like shit, up scaled Genesis games with better music or PC ports.

[Anonymous No.7862797]

>>7859726
I want to play Kolibri so bad. One day I will own a 32x and that game

[Anonymous No.7862818]

>>7861061
The CD was a good addon. The CD sound, additional computing and graphics power and video capabilities added performance in exactly the areas where the Mega Drive was seen as lacking compared to the SNES (sound quality and color palette foremost). It sold fairly well, at the time it was released it would've been way too soon for an entirely new consoles, and if it hadn't been released the Saturn would've probably had to be released even sooner and become some half baked 4.5th gen console like the Atari Jaguar. Also I don't even know what you mean by "merging the Saturn with Genesis".

[Anonymous No.7862834]

>>7859697
I think it's sort of interesting to look at the games because they are running fairly close to arcade-level hardware like the Neo Geo or CPS 1/2 but with a console-focused game design.

[Anonymous No.7862847]

>>7862818
>The CD sound, additional computing and graphics power and video capabilities added performance in exactly the areas where the Mega Drive was seen as lacking compared to the SNES (sound quality and color palette foremost)
It didn't improve the color palette and that's what held it back the most. What's the point of FMVs on a CD if they're just grainy and ugly anyway?

[Anonymous No.7862905]

I grabbed one for $10 several years ago and I think it's an interesting curiosity. It probably would have done a lot better if it came out earlier than it did and I would have loved to see what games using it would've looked like after developers knew the hardware for a few years, but as it stands it doesn't offer much to anyone but real diehard Sega fans.

[Anonymous No.7863821]

>>7862818
What I meant by merging Saturn with Genisis is having Saturn play Saturn games and have the ability to play Genesis games and it's addons like Sega Channel and the Master System converter.

[Anonymous No.7863945]

>>7859964
>saying that the 32x is underappreciated is more or less ignoring everything wrong with the idea at the time. it's an underdeveloped half baked piece of hardware that no game can justify. all that being said i own one


It's funny because the 32x was actually a success at launch. But Sega then anounced an earlier than expected Saturn launch with a limited supply for select retailers, which lead to retailers ditching the system early. Many 3rd party publishers dropped out,

[Anonymous No.7864001]

>>7863945
Yeah and a lot of games being developed for the 32X were transferred over to the Saturn, such as Alien Trilogy I assume as it's 32X port was cancelled, and existing screenshots of it show it as being identical to the Saturn version.

[Anonymous No.7864008]

>>7861318

Should have bought the better games then.

Final Fight
Lunar 1&2
Sonic CD
Bari Arm
Sylpheed
Shining Forces CD
Dungeon Explorer
Terminator
Lords of Thunder
Popful Mail
Robo Aleste
Soul Star
Snatcher
Vay
Keio's Flying Squadron.

[Anonymous No.7864813]

>>7861061
Sega CD had a bunch of cool games though, the FMVshit was a mistake but that wasn't all it had to offer.

[Anonymous No.7864907]

>>7859884
go away