/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7859452]

Tell me the most obscure/deepest secrets in OoT of Time and Majoras Mask

[Anonymous No.7859453]

ure gay

[Anonymous No.7859461]

dont tell nobody
https://youtu.be/6B5fS7gH4R0

[Anonymous No.7859462]

The bait item hidden in the fishing pond.
I only found out about it a few years ago.

[Anonymous No.7859463]

The Necronomicon is hidden somewhere in Kakariko Village.

[Anonymous No.7859546]

>>7859452
The family that is cursed to be skulltulas actually fucked skulltulas.

[Anonymous No.7859552]

a guard is dying when you enter into castletown with all three spiritual stones before you pull the mastersword, in behind in the alleyway up against a wall, you can hear his final words and he keels over

[Anonymous No.7859612]

You can get a girlfriend and have her moooove in with you.

[Anonymous No.7859915]

[Anonymous No.7859920]

>>7859915
spoopy

[Anonymous No.7859921]

>>7859452
What the fuck is Ocarina of Time of Time?

[Anonymous No.7859942]

>>7859921

[Anonymous No.7859974]

>>7859921
rip in peace, brother

[Anonymous No.7859991]

>>7859452
The rolling giant Goron who's inside, not to be confused with the smaller rolling one that's outside, if you keep stopping him he will eventually say something different, forgot what it was, but it was funny.

[Anonymous No.7860001]

The L on Link's tunic stands for "Link"

[Anonymous No.7860062]

The main character you play as is not actually Zelda. Zelda is the name of the princess who you seek to rescue.

[Anonymous No.7860107]

>>7860062
Next you're going to tell me that I'm not playing as Metroid in Metroid. Do you really expect anyone to believe you?

[Anonymous No.7860120]

>>7860107
>Metroid secrets
Whooo boy do I have a shocker coming your way

[Anonymous No.7860194]

>>7859452
Apparently in Master Quest there's a hookshot surface above the gate blocking the hall leading to the water temple boss. No texture, just looks like ceiling, but it's there.

[Anonymous No.7860218]

Link is actually a black man

[Anonymous No.7860254]

>>7859612
Imagine the smell.

[Anonymous No.7861405]

>>7859452
During the OoT credits sequence, Saria’s house and the Twins’ house next to it are covered in grass and rocks for seemingly no reason

[Anonymous No.7861415]

>>7859612
>>7860254

[None !/B0aBuWGDM No.7861417]

>>7861405
On a similar note, the GameCube version uses a video file instead of in game engine for the credits for some reason. You can glitch to the in engine credits still and they work fine.

[Anonymous No.7861443]

>>7859546
>You have too kill all their children for them to be free

[Anonymous No.7861534]

>>7859452
Finding out you can climb the sides of Volvagia's arena blew my mind.

[Anonymous No.7861553]

>>7859452
Probably the sinking lure in OOT. That or the hat.

[Anonymous No.7861726]

>>7859452
killing skull kid in the lost woods for a big rupee

[Anonymous No.7861938]

>>7859942
He's talking about the OP saying >OoT of Time
You moron

[None !/B0aBuWGDM No.7862359]

>>7861726
You've created a time paradox

[Anonymous No.7862367]

>>7862359
>/B0aBuWGDM
And....yoink

[Anonymous No.7862784]

i have a weird memory, possibly invented or dreamed, of Skull Kid doing something different than normal when you look up at him from the observatory. i’ve played the game multiple times, and every time except this once he did the same thing. desu, i don’t really remember what he does specifically, or what i remember him doing that one specific time, but does anyone know if there are different cutscenes for that moment in the game?

[Anonymous No.7862856]

>>7861405
huh sure enough
https://youtu.be/InkKkTcw9_A?t=124

[Anonymous No.7862932]

>>7862856
>>7861405
>Saria is now a sage
>Now that she's gone, she's not there to look after the other Kokiri kids
>Her house overgrown and empty
>Twins can't be assed to clean up rocks nor cut grass since she's not there to tell them to do that
I do remember there being a rock lifting kokiri boy who mentions that SARIA asked him to do that as well as a guy trying to tend to the grass near the houses, but hey I might be wrong

[Anonymous No.7863078]

>>7862359
Actually no since you can only do that as an adult. So it works out with MM

[Anonymous No.7863084]

>>7860062
>>7860107
>>7860120
reddit

[Anonymous No.7863097]

>>7862932
Adding on
>Mido's two "friends", Saria and Link, are gone
>Just after the great Deku tree died too
>Is too depresso to continue the role Saria had in taking care of the forest

[Anonymous No.7863125]

Touching butterflies with Deku Sticks create fairies.

[Anonymous No.7863126]

>>7863084

[Anonymous No.7863210]

>>7859612
>mooooove
I chuckled.

[Anonymous No.7863246]

>>7863126
Normally I hate it when someone calls something "reddit' but this time I'm inclined to agree. Redditors say the most basic bitch shit and act like its revolutionary.

[Anonymous No.7863313]

>>7863246
>and act like its revolutionary.
You aren't very bright, are you? The entire joke behind those posts is that they're dumbass basic shit.

[Anonymous No.7863361]

>>7863313
The joke had been done a million times before. It loops back around to being basic bitch again

[Anonymous No.7863395]

>>7860062
Reddit

[Anonymous No.7863427]

>>7859452
There's a tree in Zora's River that disappears in the Adult Timeline

[Anonymous No.7863438]

King Zora says this if you already bought a blue tunic from the shop

[Anonymous No.7863457]

>>7863438
>pedo fish king offers to kiss 17 year old child
bretty based

[Anonymous No.7863554]

>>7862784
He does different things if you look at him on different days

[Anonymous No.7863569]

>>7863554
oh, duh. thanks

[Anonymous No.7863624]

>>7859452
If you use hacks to spawn Dark Link in other temples, he'll fight against the enemies

[Anonymous No.7863658]

>>7859942
imbecile

[Anonymous No.7863662]

>>7859921
Something that you buy after locating an ATM machine with your GPS system, and play when you're bored of reading DC comics.

[Anonymous No.7863672]

>>7859452
There's a hidden room behind the windmill's panes that can be accessed with the hookshot. There's nothing there except for a cucco that you can use to glide down.

[Anonymous No.7863714]

If any anon here remebers the thread a few years ago where the op talks about about remember an ocarina of tine hidden grotto layout featured a broken pillar near its entrance — I think I realized that the op was mistaken. The grotto he was describing (probably) does not exist within OOT (or OOT3D and Master Quest), but rather in Mario 64 where the power star inside Lethal Lava Land's volcano is.

[Anonymous No.7863715]

If any anon here remembers the thread a few years ago where the op talks about about recalling an ocarina of time hidden grotto layout which featured a broken pillar near its entrance — I think I realized that the op was mistaken. The grotto he was describing (probably) does not exist within OOT (or OOT3D and Master Quest), but rather in Mario 64 where the power star inside Lethal Lava Land's volcano is.

[Anonymous No.7863753]

>>7859452
Link likes dick.

[Anonymous No.7863975]

>>7859452
A big nigger cucks a faggot pussy

[Anonymous No.7864068]

>>7859452
Lore trivia:
The ocarina is carved out of one of the time shift stones from skyward sword

Game trivia
During the opening cutscene when Navi flies through the kokiri forest, the deku shield is on top of one of the houses. Potentially an early hiding spot for the item

Easter egg trivia:
After the ending credits, on the the end screen, wait for a bit and there’s an Easter egg where it will play your scarecrow song.

In the GameCube version of the game, the ending credits are a video file instead of playing in engine. Link always walks up to zelda wearing the hylian shield, even if you never picked it up through the whole game. But this also means that the scarecrow song Easter egg never occurs

[Anonymous No.7864070]

>>7859452
All of the water in hyrule runs under king zora’s balls

[Anonymous No.7864161]

>>7864068
>the time shift stones from skyward sword
I guess this makes sense, but is it ever stated anywhere?

[Anonymous No.7864173]

>>7859915
>>7860194
Wait what??? You can skip that dungeon in master quest???

[Anonymous No.7864176]

>>7859452
If you Z-target and run backwards down the ramp outside the Milk Bar as Deku Link, you can go fast enough to clip/slide past the guard and access Termina Field without having the sword/ocarina at the start of the game.

[Anonymous No.7864212]

>>7864068
>deku shield
which house? just rewatched the opening a few times and I don't see it anywhere

[Anonymous No.7864241]

>>7864212
Mido's

[Anonymous No.7864246]

>>7864161
The Hyrule Historia book says that the ocarina of time "could" be made of timeshift stone.

[Anonymous No.7864248]

Is there a real explanation for scratch tree?

[Anonymous No.7864250]

>>7864246
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.7864262]

>>7859452
The blue time blocks in OOT that you make disappear by playing the Song of Time are actually sent to the other timeline. This is a holdover from when some dungeons (besides the Spirit temple) required you to visit them as both adult and child in order to complete them.

[Anonymous No.7864264]

>>7864248
Does everything need an explanation, mother fucker?

[Anonymous No.7864267]

>>7864264

Well... no... But I still want one.

[Anonymous No.7864268]

>>7864248
It represents how many times I railed your mom last night.

[Anonymous No.7864269]

>>7859452
There's a rumor going around the Internet that early versions of oot had a "dating sim mechanic," which supposedly explains why many of the supporting characters are girls.

I can't find a source for this claim, though. I think it's just bullshit, or maybe a mistranslation from a Miyamoto interview.

[Anonymous No.7864278]

Sheik is Zelda

[Anonymous No.7864279]

Kafei is the Termina universe version of Link.

[Anonymous No.7864289]

>>7861417
I found that interesting.

[Anonymous No.7864302]

The introduction of Fi in Skyward Sword basically retcons Ocarina of Time where Link is put to sleep for seven years after pulling out the Master Sword. It's Fi who does this, and she does it so that Link will be the same age as the Link of Skyward Sword when he defeated Demise, since she believes, correctly or not, that the Hero has to be a certain age to seal Demise's spirit.

[Anonymous No.7864313]

>>7864302
I mean, that decision was rational. There was no way kid Link was going to be able to stand up to Ganondorf.

[Anonymous No.7864327]

>>7859452
This is less an obscure secret and more something that never occurred to me personally until recently, but I always I assumed that the sages in Twilight Princess that imprison Ganondorf in the Twilight realm are the sages from OOT, just in spirit form which is why they don't look like the sages from OOT.

But they aren't, because the sages in OOT only become sages in the adult timeline. Twilight Princess continues on from the child timeline, and we know from Wind Waker that the job of sage passes on from generation to generation, so the sages in TP are the previous sages, the ones who existed before Saria, Darunia, Ruto, Rauru, Nabooru, and Impa.

[Anonymous No.7864342]

>>7864313
Well, Wind Waker Link could use the Master Sword to kill Ganondorf, although you could argue that by then Demise's spirit was no longer there so maybe even a child could use the sword properly.

Or maybe Wind Waker Link is just that badass.

[Anonymous No.7864346]

All Iron Knuckles are possessed Gerudo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FquUiAHcNbw

[Anonymous No.7864424]

>>7864342
I thought about that while making that post. Wind Waker Link, while certainly comical, is a lot more competent than OoT's Young Link. He can use a lot more items than him, has a far more advanced fighting style, etc.

[Anonymous No.7864484]

>>7864342
>>7864424
Wind Waker Link is one of those people with the Gary Coleman disease that gives him a child body as an adult. Link's Grandma made up the whole "coming of age" story to kick him out of the house.

[Anonymous No.7864539]

>>7864342
>>7864424
>>7864484
Correct me if im wrong, but isnt WW Link around 16 or 17? I mean the start of the game claims he turned the same age as the hero. Think it’s just an exaggerated artstyle making him smol.

[Anonymous No.7864565]

Did the Hyrule Royal Family/Sheikah engage in some black magic shit?

[Anonymous No.7864660]

Zelda has unique dialog for every happy mask shop mask. You cant reach her after getting all three stones and triggering the ganon cutscene, which means you eventually get locked out of being able to read that dialog.

>>7864424
To be fair he was trained by Orca his whole life. OoT Link just played in the forest with Saria.

>>7864539
I took that to mean he was the same age asOoT Young Link, but WW’s artstyle is so abstract it could really go either way.

>>7864565
Absolutely.

[Anonymous No.7864670]

>>7864279
To me this is the most interesting part.
>Has parents instead of being orphaned
>Lives a good life instead of shitty tree house
>Forced to be a child instead of being forced to be an adult
>Same face texture but red eyes instead of blue
>Blue hair, a complementary color to yellow (like the Castlevania Palette in later stages)

[Anonymous No.7864713]

>>7859452
Link is trans

[Anonymous No.7864725]

>>7864713
You wear girl's clothes one time, and people never let you hear the end of it.

[Anonymous No.7864785]

>>7861938
You'd have to be a pretty big dumb piece of shit to think that someone said OoT of Time accidentally, especially on 4chan.

But you'd have to be the stupidest person alive to still not get it after someone already pointed it out.

[Anonymous No.7864787]

>>7864302
it also helps explain this moment

[Anonymous No.7864792]

>>7864539
WW Link is 12, so is Tetra. Not only has the director stated this several times but in certain translations of the game (French for example) they state he's 12 during the opening cutscene when they talk about Outset Island

[Anonymous No.7864812]

This probably counts, the decision to make Ganondorf the sole male Gerudo of the tribe came late in development

[Anonymous No.7864816]

>>7864812
That male bandit is just an earlier concept art of Ganondorf according to Historia

[Anonymous No.7864824]

>>7864070
bless his heart, and his shart

[Anonymous No.7864828]

>>7863438
I would have said, how bout a blowjob from you, king?

[Anonymous No.7864832]

>>7861534
mind blown

[Anonymous No.7864839]

>>7860218
what does he say if he takes off the blue tunic while under the lake?

[Anonymous No.7864843]

>>7860001
L is real
>>7859463
I swear the little boy who plays in the graveyard has it

[Anonymous No.7864875]

>>7864828

Meep. Meep.

[Anonymous No.7864940]

>>7859452
Literally only recently learned that if you walk slowly around redeads they won't freeze you.

[Anonymous No.7864947]

>>7864248
This always bothered me.
I think it's been said that originally it was going to be stated that whatever they initially though the Water Temple boss was going to be made the marks.

[Anonymous No.7864954]

>>7864843
If anyone has the Necronomicon, it's Dampé.

[Anonymous No.7866353]

>>7864947
Probably a giant aquatic wolf then

[Anonymous No.7866440]

>>7864264
Yes, because it took conscious effort to model that tree differently, so there must have been a reason.

[Anonymous No.7866496]

>>7861415
D-D-Does the Jew fear the indoor cow farmer?

[Anonymous No.7866501]

I never found out how to recreate it, but once in Deku palace, the patrolling Deku skrub guards were shooting out white dots (2d textures) repeatedly in the direction they were looking. The dots would disappear when they traveled about 20ft. If Link ran into one, the guard would arrest him.
It was on the collectors disc for gamecube, so I figure it was some debug feature that got enabled. Tried researching how It happened but wasn't successful.

[Anonymous No.7866557]

>>7864248
>>7864947
after seeing how half assed the development on the expansion was from the gigaleak my theory is they put a few open ended things in the core game for them to expand on in ura

[Anonymous No.7866562]

>>7866557
seriously fuck that stupid unicorn fountain what the FUCK did that path lead to next to the temple of time??

[Anonymous No.7866624]

>>7866501
That's just what they do at night lol.

[Anonymous No.7866726]

>>7859452
this game is for queers and homos and fucking children

[Anonymous No.7866743]

>>7859452
Something no one ever addresses in regards to the Elegy of Emptiness statues is that their entity in-game occupies ID number 0021, which was previously used as the designation for Dark Link in Ocarina of Time. Could it be that even to Termina his spirit, your dark side shadow, is following you all this time?

https://tcrf.net/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Majora%27s_Mask/Filename_Oddities#Ocarina_of_Time_Actors_With_Replaced_Content

[Anonymous No.7866942]

>>7862932
I can get grass but rocks?
is not like the tectonic plate moved or something

[Anonymous No.7866951]

>>7864268
haha, faggot, it was actually me in disguise!

[Anonymous No.7867026]

If you bomb the Goron Pot and make it spit out the heart piece but pull out a bomb before the first bomb explodes, the bombchu will explode in your hands and the heart piece will warp into your hands instead.

[Anonymous No.7867041]

If you kill a few dozen Guays in the Ranch at night a giant one comes to kill you and it drops 20 rupees.
If you kill a bunch of Stalchildren a larger one will appear. Keep doing it and an even bigger one shows up. If you cheat for night to never end, you'll find that the Stalchildren have no cap on how large they can big. eventually they'll grow to be so huge they tower over even death mountain

[Anonymous No.7867097]

>>7867041
Probably a well known thing because of speedrunning but I find it kinda hilarious that literally everything is faster than running straight ahead. The Hyrule castle town drawbridge is timed so you have to spend a night in Hyrule field fighting of the stalchildren the first time you leave the Kokiri forest, but if you backflip, sidehop, sidestrafe, roll, or backpedal you'll get there in time.

It's just a quirk of the gameplay design that you probably need the most control of your velocity when moving towards something, so it ends up being the slowest way to move versus the others which are kind of evasive techniques, but it's still funny.

[Anonymous No.7867196]

>>7864070
Nah, Zora's Fountain is ball water.
Lake Hylia is a grey area - water comes from Gerudo's Valley but going by Adult Link's time the lake water seems to rely on the Water Temple somehow? The entrance to the fountain is frozen too in the future.

[Anonymous No.7867202]

>>7859452
My favorite secret.
>For years if you look you'd see Dampe's Grave has Gerudo symbols for some reason
>OoT overdump happens
>Turns out what became Dampe's Grave was original part of the Gerudo's Training Ground in earlier builds and Nintendo just either didn't bother to or didn't think anyone would question the textures

[Anonymous No.7867735]

The opening is a homage to first person navi, originally you were going to control navi, presumably before child link was an idea to navigate (what came to be child) crawl holes

Although first person navi was cut, the opening cutscene remains as what would have been

[Anonymous No.7867753]

In addition to being the Prince of Darkness, Ganondorf has great musical skills.

[Anonymous No.7867801]

>>7866624
Well shit I guess I'm retarded

[Anonymous No.7867901]

>>7867735
It sounds like you heard that the Spirit Medallion's magic spell would let you control Navi and you turned it into your own head canon.

[Anonymous No.7868226]

>>7863715
I watches the ZXMany video you got this from https://youtu.be/hZUmFvWPvAI

I even remember that thread. But that was very many years ago. *looks at camera worriedly*

>>7864068
Ocarina of Time was never meant to be time-shift material even if taking Skyward Sword prima facie and no other games. This is a baseless myth only Hyrule Historia owners with buyer's remorse can get behind.

>>7864269
It's an exaggeration from his Famimaga64 100 questions with Miyamoto interview.

>>7864954
I hate that Lovecraft didn't care that other people repurposed his own ideas in their stories. "Universe-building" is stupid be it in films, books or what have you.

>>7867202
I thought that was funny too.

>>7867901
I can say for a fact he did.

>>7864262
ZFG? Is that you?

[Anonymous No.7868267]

>>7864262
Wasn't that mechanic actually used in Master Quest?

[Anonymous No.7868305]

Are there fun facts for Majora's Mask too?

[Anonymous No.7868327]

>>7868305
the ending sequence shows every good deed you did in alternate timelines converging into dawn of a new day

[Anonymous No.7868395]

>>7868305
If you activate the 4th day glitch, the water turns all kinds of strange colors if you go underwater. The colors change based on the time of day and your location in the world. Most notable are Great Bay looking blood red and the Piss Lake in pic related

[Anonymous No.7869270]

Speculative, but the carpenters that the Gerudo capture in Ocarina of Time may be gay stereotypes in Japanese. One of them calls Link a "cute boy" upon rescue and they use feminine pronouns to identify themselves.

This might subtlety explain their comical run animation, why they believed being a carpenter wasn't "cool" and wanted to join an all-female group and why their boss calls them "wimpy" [へなちょこ] in the english version.

[Anonymous No.7869287]

>>7869270
Then Bolson the omega Chad was based on the carpenter's flamboyantness

[Anonymous No.7869323]

>>7864241
Screenshot? I don't see it.

[Anonymous No.7869343]

The Gerudo's colors match Link's tunic.
If you wear red, they will be red. If you wear blue, they will be blue.

[Anonymous No.7869356]

>>7869343
If you pull out a bomb, the Gerudo that gives you the Gerudo Card will begin to flash like the bomb.

[Anonymous No.7869401]

>>7869323
it's barely visible but you can see it poking out at 3:06 near the top of the house
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi8bfP1f68A

then this video shows what would happen if you were to hit it, though the position is much lower than where it is in the actual opening
https://youtu.be/NDL0z9XdCOA

[Anonymous No.7869602]

>>7867097

It's designed so that you can just about make it with straight normal running, but you have to know the direction, it wouldn't happen to a first-time player

[Anonymous No.7869613]

>>7869602
I don't think that's true.
I'm prepared to be proven wrong, but I can recall instances from when I was a kid (replaying the game but not knowledgeable of any advanced techniques) ruining straight to the drawbridge from the forest and missing it by like ~100 yards.

[Anonymous No.7869640]

>>7859452
There is 1 red star in the sky in Majora's Mask.


That's all I got

[Anonymous No.7869660]

>>7859452
Miyamoto said he was inspired by Twin Peaks for Link's Awakening. (It was big in Japan) But that game has mysterious owls, which is a Twin Peaks thing. That was carried over to OoT and future games. And its all probably from Twin Peaks.

[Anonymous No.7869980]

What was with this portal in the sky in the Stone Temple? Or was it Twinmolds lair?

[Anonymous No.7870796]

>>7869343
>>7869356
Well I'm gonna look for this.
>>7869640
And this.

[Anonymous No.7870932]

>>7859452
Kakariko theme changes in OoT depending on if you're an adult or child.

[Anonymous No.7870947]

If you use the Lens of Truth on Gyorg, you see a dead King Zora in his stomach.

[Anonymous No.7870951]

>>7863457
>pedo
>17 year old
>child

americans...

[Anonymous No.7871016]

I know a REALLY BIG secret in OoT that no one else has discovered yet. I will only reveal the secret if you PayPal me $500 though.

[Anonymous No.7871023]

>>7870947
Pics or it didn't happen

[Anonymous No.7871038]

Does adult Link still have the mind of a child? I’ve always wondered that.

[Anonymous No.7871093]

>>7871038
I would say yes, of course he does. It's never an issue because he doesn't speak.

[Anonymous No.7871151]

>>7859452
phantom ganon has a special attack he only uses when you're at a 45 degree angle to him

[Anonymous No.7871453]

>>7859452
they're not as good as you think they are.

[Anonymous No.7871502]

>>7871453

[Anonymous No.7871524]

>>7859452
>You can defeat Ganon as a child but you must do x y z
Turns out this became true kek

[Anonymous No.7871580]

If you run ten consecutive laps around the interior of Link's treehouse, you get a blue rupee.

[Anonymous No.7871717]

>>7871038
>in a magic coma for 7 years
He hasn't had any experiences in that time, no doubt he'd have the mind of a child.

[Anonymous No.7871861]

>>7871717
But how would he react to his, uh newfound “urges”?

[Anonymous No.7872536]

>>7866557
Why can you never beat the running man? I never got an explanation for that. Glitch, were they fucking with us, or did they just forget to complete that part?

[Anonymous No.7872543]

>>7872536
I think it's a just for fun thing. Your best time is recorded in Link's house, so you're really just racing yourself if you think about it.

[Anonymous No.7872595]

According to the game itself, only plebs use Switch targeting

[Anonymous No.7872603]

>>7872595
ZFG claims that Switch is the optimal targeting option in OoT from a speedrunning perspective

[Anonymous No.7872609]

>>7872603
Sounds like that small bit of being a pleb still stuck with him. Personally I always found it easier to stop targeting when off of Switch. I know you can hold down and hit Z but still.

[Anonymous No.7872643]

>>7871016
tell me NOW!!

[Anonymous No.7872916]

>>7864248
probably an asset ripped from Lost Woods that was suppose to be used to signify wolfos in the area

[Anonymous No.7873338]

All of Majoras mask is a dream that child link has during his 7 years of sleep.

So the canon way to play the n64 zeldas is

child link -> beat all of MM -> adult link

[Anonymous No.7873345]

>>7873338
Your headcanon is wrong

[Anonymous No.7873351]

>>7866743
>Something no one ever addresses in regards to the Elegy of Emptiness statues is that their entity in-game occupies ID number 0021, which was previously used as the designation for Dark Link in Ocarina of Time.
OK, that is legit deepest lore tier creepy. There's no way the programmers didn't think of that themselves when assigning IDs.

[Anonymous No.7873364]

>>7868395
>The colors change based on the time of day and your location in the world. Most notable are Great Bay looking blood red and the Piss Lake in pic related
Fucking why, though? And has anyone taken a look at what 'day' it is internally when the credits scenes play? It would be amazing if it actually occurred on the 4th.

[Anonymous No.7873369]

>>7869270
>>7869287
Aonuma, everybody. Every Zelda game he touches (OoT aside because Miyamoto was still involved then) has some element of gayness in it.

[Anonymous No.7873372]

>>7873364
>Fucking why, though?

No clue, but there's something similar in OoT.
After getting the Nocturne of Shadow but before beating the Shadow Temple, enter Kakariko Village from Hyrule Field. Walk forward and the INSTANT rain starts falling, backwalk into Hyrule Field. The world will be covered in extremely dense green fog. The fog is blue and even thicker in Zora's Domain, and this persists throughout everywhere in the overworld to my knowledge, with different colors on the location.

[Anonymous No.7873379]

>>7869660
>Miyamoto said he was inspired by Twin Peaks for Link's Awakening. (It was big in Japan) But that game has mysterious owls, which is a Twin Peaks thing. That was carried over to OoT and future games. And its all probably from Twin Peaks.
That was Takashi Tezuka, the game's director, my man. I hate when people credit Miyamoto for shit he had nothing to do with.

[Anonymous No.7873383]

>>7869343
Is this only after you make good with them and you're allowed to roam freely, or before, too?

[Anonymous No.7873401]

>>7872536
i remember years ago something about shiggy gave the hint that you needed to go back to being a child. someone tested it and couldnt figure it out but did note it was strange the timer didnt just cut down to 1 second like when you try to teleport.

[Anonymous No.7873419]

>>7869980
I believe that you did warp from the temple to the lair rather than just drop down. Something something pocket dimension for sealing Majora's Mask, I've lost my grip of the lore

[Anonymous No.7873423]

>>7873383
You can only see the special Gerudo during the infiltration.
After you get the pass and then leave the room, you'll never see them again.

[Anonymous No.7873425]

>>7873423
I see. I was hoping there could be some kind of in-universe explanation for it like the Gerudos are so impressed by Link that they start dressing like him or something.

[Anonymous No.7873504]

>>7868395
>>7873364
>>7873372
Each scene in the game data contains a list of light/fog/draw distance settings. Based on my limited experimentation, I believe that this list is indexed using the current time. With that in mind, unexpectedly high time values may cause it to interpret whatever data is after the list as more light/fog settings.

For more information about the data in question, see this article: https://wiki.cloudmodding.com/mm/Scenes_and_Rooms#Environments_list

[Anonymous No.7873554]

>>7873351
I know right? You'd think everyone and their fucking mother would make creepypasta material or DID YOU KNOW??? trivia about this but surprisingly not

[Anonymous No.7873648]

>>7864302
>>7864787
kek

[Anonymous No.7873696]

Dodongo's Cavern is the Icon of Sin. Think about it. Giant monster skull embedded into a wall, with rising pillars you have to stand on to lob explosives from into its skull.

[Anonymous No.7874043]

bump

[Anonymous No.7874267]

>>7868395
this is one thing I love about MM, how it gets greener by each day

[Anonymous No.7874271]

Lads, I grew up with a SNES and a 64 but I've never played any of the two Zelda games on the console so I'm going to try this weekend.

What's my best emulation option and is there a preferred rom file?

[Anonymous No.7874272]

>>7873369
Maybe he just knows that fujos are a big market.

[Anonymous No.7874292]

The right side of the door into Sakon's Hideout is just wide enough to clip through. If you step on the first switch and goron roll through the door, you can do the first part of the Hideout Puzzle. You're softlocked at this point however, because Kafei is nowhere to be seen despite Tatl talking to a Kafei that isn't there, and you must Song of Time out.

[Anonymous No.7874320]

>>7859452
Link dead

[Anonymous No.7874351]

>>7874271
https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/M64p

If anyone tells you to use Project 64, you can safely assume that they have no idea what they're talking about, or their hardware is older than most people posting on 4chan and they have no other choice but to use it. Best ROM? Just track down 1.0

[Anonymous No.7874875]

>>7859452
https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Development_of_The_Legend_of_Zelda#Establishing_the_Conventions_of_Zelda
the OoT/Majora's Mask sections are pretty great reads if you want absolute deepest lore.

[Anonymous No.7874921]

>>7874875
>let a little bit of their personality and person life shine in their work

ah, soul

[Anonymous No.7875064]

>>7866557

Is there a good place to see everything in the gigaleak? All I can find from searching is fucking Twitter threads which is the worst possible way to document something.

[Anonymous No.7875067]

>>7867801

Hey, at least you weren't just making shit up

[Anonymous No.7875068]

>>7867202

Or they just forgot. This is actually my first time noticing, too. Good shit

[Anonymous No.7875070]

>>7867735

This sounds like a bullshit hypothesis that doesn't have a shred of evidence to support it

[Anonymous No.7875079]

>>7869401

I'm going to take your word for it but I went through the video frame by frame and didn't see it lol

[Anonymous No.7875081]

>>7869602

Yeah. Even as a kid I always took notice how you can always make it just in time

[Anonymous No.7875084]

>>7871016

what's your paypal?

[Anonymous No.7875089]

>>7873379

For some reason, people like to credit everything in video games to a single person. People will say that the enemy and level designs in Dark Souls is all due to Hidetaka Miyazaki, the English voice acting in MGS is pretty good because of Hideo Kojima, etc. It makes no fucking sense half the time but yeah.

[Anonymous No.7875092]

>>7873696

Well, the Icon of Sin is actually a living creature, and the skull in Dodongo's Cavern is just a skull and not a living thing.

[Anonymous No.7875097]

>>7861417
The timing is hard to get down in emulation is why. On Wii VC, the music starts to desync and eventually the cutscene ends faster, causing the song to be cut off. Probably because of the lack of lag on N64.

[Anonymous No.7875102]

>>7864539
I would hope a 16 year old wouldn't still have a voice that sounds like that

[Anonymous No.7875138]

>>7863084
This is 4chan actually reddit is over at the reddit web address. Hope this helps

[Anonymous No.7875158]

>>7863662
>GPS system

nobody says this

[Anonymous No.7875349]

I was bored so I tried to stitch most of termina into oot hyrule with my shitty gimp skills. it couldnt be what ura was going to look like but I always felt like the clouds on oot's map were still hiding secrets and it satisfies my brain enough. I love majora's mask but I think ura sets off my imagination more because everything would've been connected.

[Anonymous No.7875629]

>>7873648
I lol'd

[Anonymous No.7875636]

>>7874292
I wonder if this is repeatable in MM3D and if Kafei appears.

[Anonymous No.7875656]

>>7875349
wtf this actually makes sense

[Anonymous No.7876015]

>>7867753
>4 halfsteps between Eb and Gb on the right side of the piano
what the FUCK note is that extra key?

[Anonymous No.7876027]

>>7875656
except for the desert literally touching the ocean

[Anonymous No.7876243]

>>7876027
It mixes the ocean and garudos.

[Anonymous No.7876390]

>>7876027
like the other anon said, gerudos are the main reason, plus nintendo doesn't always about realism anyway. I also imagined the beaver race waterfall is running from the valley but technically the beach should be flipped vertically unless the river makes a u turn at the end.

anyway not trying to spam the thread but I went back to cover all the place names. still sloppy though. I also shrunk it down a bit.

[Anonymous No.7876406]

>>7860218
>Link is actually a black man

sounds like a buck waiting to be broken

[Anonymous No.7876689]

>>7859452
most people know that Ganondorf has two different appearances in OoT, one during the Child era with shorter hair and no cape and one during the Adult era with long hair, glowing eyes and a cape

However, in the cutscene where the Great Deku Tree explains Ganondorf's motives, the game uses his Child era design with the cape he gets later on in the game. This only happens during this cutscene, though coincidentally this appearance is also in Smash Ultimate

[Anonymous No.7876748]

I just realized I am autistically obsessed with the world of OoT and MM, and all of their secrets. I love these threads.

[Anonymous No.7876749]

>>7876015
The devil key, of course: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil's_note

[Anonymous No.7876752]

>>7876748
Me too, friend.
>>7876689
I never would have noticed that. Also, I see that the finalized Gerudo symbol is printed on his cape. Any idea if that was there in 1.0, or was it originally the star and crescent?

[Anonymous No.7876770]

>>7868327
That's really good to know. The Deku Butler never getting a happy ending will always break my heart though.

[Anonymous No.7876940]

>>7875089
Nah dude my memory is just shit

[Anonymous No.7876946]

The Zelda timeline isn't literally canon. It's from the Hyrule Historia, an in universe well historical document from historians piecing together the timeline as best they can. Like what real historians do. It can be changed to anything Nintendo wants in the future and shouldn't be taking 110% serious like a series bible.

Its similar to how Lord of the Rings is inaccurate and not 100% canon to what really happened, as it is really the story Frodo wrote on his travels.

[Anonymous No.7876953]

originally the triforce was supposed to be a microchip and there were going to be dogu statues for enemies. Dogus are said to be ancient alien astronaut suits in Japan pop culture.

Aounuma keeps putting ancient alien shit in the games. It was real subtle in Wind Waker but Twilight Princess started to get blatant with its Jomon statue aesthetic, and how the plot was like an alien invasion but from another dimension and not space, ans Midna was a little gray nan. Dogu statues were from the Jomon period too. Then in BotW that's just straight up what the sheikah aesthetic is, Jomon but even more technological than ever before. They just didnt outright say the Goddesses were ayy lmaos yet but that's the implication. And they finally made a dogu robot.

Sorry I cant find sources on this shit I love zelda but not enough to archive it all.

[Anonymous No.7876959]

>>7876953
I forgot Skyward Sword has ancient robots too.


Tl;dr the goddesses are ancient aliens. Or at least heavily inspired by it by it. Look up dogus.

[Anonymous No.7876968]

>>7876953
>>7876959
Not sure how the fans would take it, but I always thought after Breath of the Wild is milked dry they should just do full Sci-Fi Zelda setting

[Anonymous No.7877056]

>>7860001
i thought it means loser

[Anonymous No.7877061]

>>7872916
this. reused tree from lost woods.

[Anonymous No.7877137]

Malon is in love with Link
or atleast the idea of him .

mask of truth verifies this if you talk to a statue near the temple of time

[Anonymous No.7877139]

>>7877137
there is a cow on death mountain in a grotto


you can kill ganon (before form change) with an empty bottle


you can fuck the game up and clone bottles over all your items

[Anonymous No.7877154]

>>7876027
Who says deserts can't touch oceans?

[Anonymous No.7877171]

If you kill a Redead, the other Redeads nearby will ignore you and slowly walk over to the dead one to mourn it. You can see this in action by going into the Kakariko Village grotto that has 2 of them and killing the one on the left.

[Anonymous No.7877251]

>>7864279
Kafei is an adult though, and was only recently made to look like a child. He was just a rich dude growing up. Also his mom a ho.

I guess technically link's mom a ho too. Just dropped him off with a giant sentient tree innawoods.

[Anonymous No.7877258]

>>7864302
I'm not sure that the age would have been as important as just being not 10 and big/strong enough to actually wield the sword.

[Anonymous No.7877345]

Anju/The Cucco Lady is Malon’s mother.

[Anonymous No.7877424]

>>7877139
>you can kill ganon (before form change) with an empty bottle
you can only use it to hit back his energyballs. You still need to slice him up and stuff when he gets stunned.

[Anonymous No.7878006]

>>7863438
reminds me of pic related
>>7877251
>Kafei is an adult though, and was only recently made to look like a child.
which is the inverse of what happened to link in hyrule.
>>7877345
plausible.

[Anonymous No.7878010]

All weapons deal 1 damage to Ganon, except for the Master Sword and the Deku Stick, which deal 4. Deku Nuts actually hurt Ganon as well, and it might be easier to use them than other weapons for phase 1.
Also if you superslide into the fight's cutscene and keep holding R, Ganon smacks your shield instead of your sword, letting you keep the Master Sword for Phase 1

[Anonymous No.7878017]

If you stand between King Dodongo's front left leg (your right) and his mouth, he will keep walking around the arena, slowly dragging you with. You won't get hurt doing this and he will not stop walking until you move out from this spot.

[Anonymous No.7878361]

>>7876752
It was a completely unique symbol in the original, I actually didn't even realize it ever got changed
Left is N64, right is GC Master Quest

[Anonymous No.7878526]

>>7878017
spooky

[Anonymous No.7878663]

>>7864539
>>7864342
>>7864313
>>7864302
WW Link was supposed to grow throught the game, so I think it was supposed to have some time skips. But they butchered the game and rushed it.

This Fi theory makes sense though.

[Anonymous No.7878990]

>>7877424
yes i should have said "fight" or "stun" ganon not "kill"

[Anonymous No.7879021]

Underneath one of the bridges in the main room of Ganon's Castle, there's a fake wall leading to a bunch of business scrubs and fairies.

[Anonymous No.7879279]

>>7876027
Deserts are just waterless beaches

[Anonymous No.7879285]

>>7859942
retard lmaoooo

[Anonymous No.7879297]

Lens of Truth and Song of Storms.

[Anonymous No.7879308]

>>7864248
I like the mystery of it. And back in 98 and 99 I tried to uncover its secret. I kept hitting the tree with my hookshot, then the longshot, used all my magic on it, played every song near it, you name it, I did it.
And I had fun doing it.

[Anonymous No.7879319]

>>7878010
>Ganon smacks your shield instead of your sword, letting you keep the Master Sword for Phase 1
No way. Video proof? Can't find anything on that.

[Anonymous No.7879323]

>>7879319
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywweflYRPLA

[Anonymous No.7879331]

>>7867041
The leevers in the desert also have a giant version

[Anonymous No.7879336]

Anybody else feel like OoT and MM had the best art direction of the series?

[Anonymous No.7879360]

>>7879336
In terms of official art? Absolutely, I'm still waiting for them to these designs justice in HD

[Anonymous No.7879369]

>>7879336
I can't speak for the 2D games, but kinda yes.
The number of characters in OoT/MM that look like someone set fire to a thalidomide baby are in the vast minority compared with the later 3D titles. Personally I hate the WW style and I don't think Toon Link is a thing that should exist, but in Twilight Princess all the minor characters look like Hyrule has an epidemic of foetal alcohol syndrome. I don't know if it's an Aonuma thing in that he likes or requests wonky looking NPCs, but it's an issue with all 'his' games; even in Skyward Sword you've got this menagerie of mutants populating the lesser cast, and it kinda persists into BotW with the gerudo for example looking like a mix of palumboism and synthol freaks- the rest of them you don't really notice aside from maybe the gay stereotype carpenters because in that game you don't spend a lot of time interacting with NPCs.

[Anonymous No.7879401]

>>7859942
Typical zoom zoom

[Anonymous No.7879405]

>>7870951
At least you admitted it. Most Europeans have pedophilia tendencies.

[Anonymous No.7879421]

>>7874875
fucking kino

[Anonymous No.7879439]

>>7879336
yeah. I mean I like wind waker for what it is but the series probably only became experimental with artstyles because of it. I think I read somewhere that oot was what they were shooting for in earlier games so idk why they changed it for ww, other than "lets do the opposite of majoras mask" but its been a swinging pendulum since then, which bleeds out from artstyles into gameplay too.
>ww is extra lighthearted to contrast with mm
>tp is extra edgy & oot like in reaction to ww
>ss tries and fails to merge ww & tp to get a middleground identity for the 25th anniversary, and exaggerated the formula to a fault
>botw saw merging everything in ss failed so tried throwing everything out
>botw2 saw botw was successful so throws nothing out

[Anonymous No.7879470]

>>7875349
I've always fucking wanted a mod that does this, and surprisingly to this day no such mod exists despite it being such an enticing concept. Seriously, why has no one attempted this? The only OOT mods (exempting rando) out there are edgy or super short total conversions like Master of Time and the one where Saria is a talking sword for some reason, and REALLY shitty ones like Nimpize Adventure (which is just Master Quest but worse and with a weird shoehorned story using MM maps) and Fate of the Bombiwa which is complete utter trash.

Can we ever get an honest to god "third" quest mod that just combines OOT and MM into a single adventure with logical progression and items and mechanics from both games? By modding OOT maps into MM or vice versa surely something could be done, whichever has more code or entities to work with allowing for the most out of both.

Fucking IMAGINE scaling Stone Tower as Adult Link with the megaton hammer to smash down buttons, or going through the Fire Temple as Goron Link playing the Elegy of Emptiness to press down blue switches, etc. etc. and having extended mask trade quests across Hyrule.

Kaze if you're reading this drop whatever boring mario mod it is that will just get dmca'd anyway and make this happen, I will personally paypal you $50 or more if you include all the dungeons and merge the stories and aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.7879487]

>>7859452
did you know you can find the triforce in the unicorn fountain?

[Anonymous No.7879506]

>>7879470
>>7879336
yes

[Anonymous No.7879528]

>>7879506
meant to respond to both the art style one and myself about oot+mm, I know both examples are of buttons which is just what Im trying to come up with on the spot but surely something could be done to make it super intricate, especially if the Adult timeline after taking the sword had an effect on the Termina areas, too. Imagine how fucked up Ikana and the rest would be in those conditions.

[Anonymous No.7879554]

>>7863624
>If you use hacks to spawn Dark Link in other temples, he'll fight against the enemies

is that really a secret? that's like the Arwing.

[Anonymous No.7879579]

The water in the Dark Link room is reflective, but only until you pass the island or get to the far end of the room for the first time. After that, the reflections stop and Dark Link spawns.

[Anonymous No.7879584]

>>7863210
an hero twitchfag

[Anonymous No.7879606]

>>7879323
Oh I thought you'd see the shield flying lol, hence my disbelief. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.7879610]

Only the lower part of the Water Temple door is solid. If you were to get high enough with a glitch, you could just jump through the door.
But that's not the interesting part. In Master Quest Water Temple, there are two hookshot pillars right next to the door. To skip the boss key, all one needs to do is climb atop one of these pillars, then sidehop and jumpslash into the door. It is every bit as simple as it sounds.

[Anonymous No.7879715]

>>7879470
i think it will happen once we get pc ports of both

[Anonymous No.7879756]

>>7879606
I could have worded it better yeah. It's funny that they dont autoremove the sword for the fight, instead relying on link actually getting hit in the cutscene

[Anonymous No.7879765]

>>7859921
Ligma balls

[Anonymous No.7879808]

>>7879715
I checked the status of that yesterday.
No progress for like 2 months, but it clocked up to 79% very recently. Hopefully we'll have the source by the end of the year.

[Anonymous No.7879867]

>>7874875

[Anonymous No.7879868]

>>7859452
the hookshot can grapple the snake lady statue's nipples in the spirit temple

[Anonymous No.7879882]

[Anonymous No.7879884]

>>7879868
What's even funnier is they're so pointy they can hurt Link if you hit them at just the right spot.

[Anonymous No.7879887]

>>7879470
I'm honestly astounded this has never been done, I'd pay money to have this happen too.

[Anonymous No.7879892]

[Anonymous No.7879902]

anyone have a pic?

[Anonymous No.7879918]

>>7879868
this is information worth knowing

[Anonymous No.7879920]

[Anonymous No.7879932]

>>7879892
Where is this?

[Anonymous No.7879953]

>>7879920
It is interesting that the lunar child who gives you the Fierce Deity Mask (to play 'good guys and bad guys", ie. Onigokko) informs Link that he'll be playing the role of the bad guy/oni.
The FDM in Japanese is called the Kishin Mask/鬼神の仮面 which is interesting because, A. it literally means Fierce God Mask, B. it has the embedded character for oni (鬼), and C. Most masks have an honourific お in their name which this omits implying it's something not worth honouring (only other mask I think which lacks this is the Bremen mask which itself is a kind of pun in Japanese; Bremen ~ Burei-men = ブレー面 = rude mask).

Anyway factor into this the description on acquiring the Fierce Deity Mask,
>"You got the Fierce Deity's Mask! Could this mask's dark powers be as bad as Majora? Tremendous power is emanating from within..."
And yeah it seems like this is some seriously dark shit Link is playing with if you're told it's as bad as Majora, and Majora's avatar is calling you the badder guy of the two.

[Anonymous No.7879958]

>>7871861
navi gives him a bodyjob

[Anonymous No.7879962]

>>7879882
MM3D, while I still like it, removed this soulful detail :(

[Anonymous No.7879965]

>>7879932
Stone Tower

[Anonymous No.7879971]

>>7879920
maker of that pic forgot something

[Anonymous No.7879985]

>>7879953
the fiece deity is so damn cool, on one hand I wish it were utilized more, on the other I know using it too much removes its mystique and coolness factor so it's good where it is.

[Anonymous No.7879994]

>>7879439
I really do not like BotW. There are good things, but it pales in comparison to something like MM.

I recently beat OoT again for the first time in like 10 years and immediately went into MM, currently in Ikana Canyon. I forgot just how focused MM is on character development. Everyone you meet has a story, and just about everyone has some sort of arc, curse, regret, doubt, etc. It's really something special.

[Anonymous No.7880006]

>>7879932
>>7879965
Wrong, it's Ikana Castle.

[Anonymous No.7880009]

>>7879994
>Everyone you meet has a story, and just about everyone has some sort of arc, curse, regret, doubt, etc. It's really something special.
I was trying to figure out why I hated Twilight Princess and especially Skyward Sword. That's why. Every character in MM is important. That's what I loved about it.

Never gave BotW a chance but I can tell I wouldn't like it.

[Anonymous No.7880015]

>>7879994
>I really do not like BotW. There are good things, but it pales in comparison to something like MM.
I was really hoping BotW2 would be the Majora's Mask to BotW since it's a same-engine sequel set directly after the first game, but that trailer they showed off earlier this week makes it look like they've spent most of the time since BotW1 jerking off.
Truthfully I was expecting something like the Geofront from Evangelion; that you'd be exploring some kind of under-dark world sunken beneath Hyrule, like Subrosia or something, but it looks as though it's literally the world map from BotW1 with chunks floating.

I guess COVID fucked their production pretty hard, because what I saw in the E3 trailer looked like less than a year's effort had they been running full-steam ahead. Hell it looked like glorified DLC.

[Anonymous No.7880019]

>>7880009
OoT gets a pass because it's really more about the adventure and pushing the hardware, and it's a grand adventure for sure. TP had a fun villain till it ended up just being Ganondorf again, and SS was just shit.

BotW is summed up thusly "Wide as an ocean, depth of a puddle".

Fuck, I go the Song of Storms earlier today in MM and Flat explains Sharp outright "sold his soul to the devil" and then killed him and threw him in the tomb you find the guy in. He goes on to explain all the drops of rain from the song are his tears.

[Anonymous No.7880021]

>>7880006
right, my bad, I knew it was where you meet Ignus du Ikana (I think that's how it's spelled) but forgot the name of the dungeon

[Anonymous No.7880026]

>>7880021
The only reason I know is because I played through the castle about an hour ago.

[Anonymous No.7880029]

>>7880026
nice

[Anonymous No.7880030]

>>7880019
>"Wide as an ocean, depth of a puddle".
Exactly, from what I've seen, you're exploring a wide open land. But as an adult, you can do that in real life. You can go traveling and walk across fields and go hanggliding and do all that stuff for real. But in real life, you can't reset time and relive 3 days while solving everyone's problems. BotW would be a great game for a kid, but I can't imagine wasting so much of my life sitting down playing a camping simulation when I could be camping for real.

[Anonymous No.7880034]

>>7862932
Bitch offed herself cuz link through away her ocarina

[Anonymous No.7880036]

>>7880034
I meant threw fuck my life

[Anonymous No.7880037]

[Anonymous No.7880039]

>>7876748
Same, OOT and MM have very interesting Universes.

[Anonymous No.7880045]

>>7879985
I always liked the Manga's explanation of the origins of Fierce Diety and Majora.
I know it's not canon, but it's a neat folktale-esque story.

[Anonymous No.7880051]

>>7880045
The mangas to me are canon, they have a nintendo license seal on the cover even, they barely conflict with the games ever, excepting the fact of truncating temples and dungeons for brevity like majora, and aside from the OCs like in ALTTP and the proto-rito in OOT

[Anonymous No.7880052]

[Anonymous No.7880068]

>>7866743
Shit, that's actually something I've never heard of before. There's no fucking way the devs didn't do this intentionally.

[Anonymous No.7880071]

>>7880030
I mean, all those things can be fun in BotW but all it -ever- amounts to is one of three things...

A Shrine (which usually leads to a heart piece)
A Deku Seed
or the next actual dungeon

The combat is impressive, and the cooking is fun but once you realize how little there is to the do, the grand rolling fields become so boring and lifeless.

[Anonymous No.7880080]

>>7874875
I love shit like this, makes the game feel real, like it was made by a group of actual people.

[Anonymous No.7880083]

>>7880068
Not really. Sometimes shit like that just happens.
eg. In Final Fantasy IX the temporary party members you start the game with have partymember IDs that correspond to to permanent party members you get later on. I think Marcus shares data with Eiko, and so if you grind the shit out of the former- when the latter subsequently enters your party later in the game she inherits those stats.

It might just be a random coincidence, an arbitrary choice or for the convenience of the programmers, or something done to save space on the cart.

[Anonymous No.7880089]

>>7879958
I guarantee you this entire concept exists in art form

[Anonymous No.7880093]

>>7880083
Yeah, I guess you could be right. Maybe I just want to believe there's something more to those numbers

[Anonymous No.7880096]

>>7880000

[Anonymous No.7880106]

Tingle in Majora's Mask was loosely based on Hideki Kamiya.

[Anonymous No.7880107]

>>7880089
>>7879958
I actually have a question about this:
Is Navi a traditional fairy, and was rendered as a particle effect purely because it was the N64 and that was all the polygons they could spare/because she was a glorified target reticule; or is a ball of light literally what she's meant to be?

When you factor in the shattered Great Fairies, that look like 'something', I lose perspective on what they were trying to represent.

[Anonymous No.7880114]

>>7880106
This sounds like gaslighting but I'm going to tell people anyway because it's funny.

[Anonymous No.7880125]

>>7880107
In an Iwata asks, Koizumi says he was rebuffed by the programmers when he wanted to add the fairy to highlight the target lock due to N64 limitations. Making Navi a little ball of light was the compromise, and it actually worked out really well because she could change colors in this form.
When it was decided though they fully ran with it, all official artwork of Navi is only in ball form. Lore-wise she is a ball of light and nothing more.
Also, Breath of the Wild brought back ball fairies, so they're still a thing in universe.

[Anonymous No.7880132]

>>7880107
navi looked more pixie like in the beta art. the beta great fairy model is also blue so maybe what navi looks like.

[Anonymous No.7880139]

>>7880125
Didn't Koizumi also said she was a ball if light precisely because rendering her as a tiny girl was too time consuming? I'm pretty sure the art book, the red one, Nakano says fairies are cute girls with light around them

[Anonymous No.7880140]

>>7880114
He's actually based on Koji Kondo, which is just as funny

[Anonymous No.7880142]

>>7880132
IMO, that looks cliche. So what an amazing example of technological limitations creating something great.

[Anonymous No.7880143]

Why does the Song of Healing work on the zombified scientist but not on any of the other Redeads/Gibdos?

I'll tell you why. It's because his daughter has preserved a portion of his humanity by feeding him human flesh, taken from the dead bodies Sakon leaves in the canyon when his muggings go wrong and become murders.

[Anonymous No.7880145]

>>7880140
I can fucking see it.

[Anonymous No.7880147]

>>7880030
Man, I envy you first worlders where camping is either safe, or not just miserable desert with 105°F heat most of the year.

[Anonymous No.7880149]

>>7880147
I live in Australia; I wouldn't say it's safe, but that's the fun of it. I watched a lot of Russel Coight growing up so I know how to handle myself in the bush.

[Anonymous No.7880150]

>>7880143
Because the redeads are happy being dead while the scientist was unhappy with it and wanted to change.
The redeads dance all day, the Gibdos spend their days fleecing items from children.

[Anonymous No.7880163]

>>7880142
yeah some of the concept art is super cringe but they ironed it out in the end.

[Anonymous No.7880164]

>>7879285
>retard laughing my ass off off off off off
Why are you like this? Where did your life go wrong?
>>7879439
>botw2 saw botw was successful so throws nothing out
We'll see about that. The re-release of Skyward Sword makes me think Aonuma is feeling nostalgic for the pre-BotW days, and so his predilection for side quest and puzzle bloat may win out over Fujibayashi's desire to hearken back to series basics.
>>7879994
>I really do not like BotW.
Of course you don't. Every step that pushes the series closer to its free-roaming action based roots is anathema to people who were children when OoT and MM came out.
>>7880009
>Never gave BotW a chance but I can tell I wouldn't like it.
Oh, you would hate it. Great game, terrible interactive movie.
>>7880030
>BotW would be a great game for a kid, but I can't imagine wasting so much of my life sitting down playing a camping simulation when I could be camping for real.
Maybe because you can go from "camping" to scaling a mountain far faster than any human ever could to fighting a giant skeleton monster all in the span of 5 minutes? Christ, that's some shoddy logic you've got there. I can learn to fly a plane and skydive too, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy Pilotwings.

[Anonymous No.7880169]

>>7880164
>Maybe because you can go from "camping" to scaling a mountain far faster than any human ever could to fighting a giant skeleton monster all in the span of 5 minutes? Christ, that's some shoddy logic you've got there. I can learn to fly a plane and skydive too, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy Pilotwings.
Why you being such a dick? You've ruined the 1 comfy thread on this entire site.

I'm just saying that if I'm going to play a game, I don't want to feel like I could be doing it in real life instead. I'm never going to fly a plane, I'd enjoy Pilot wings.

[Anonymous No.7880171]

>>7880164
My first memories are my dad and I playing the first LoZ together. I've also beaten LoZ multiple times. I understand what BotW was going for, you fucking mong, but it really failed to deliver is what I'm saying. WW did open world better. There was shit to do and expect outside of 3 different outcomes.

[Anonymous No.7880178]

>>7879953
Interesting stuff man, thanks for the Japanese lesson.

>>7880045
Same. I'd love to see Nintendo invite Akira Himekawa to write the story of the next 2D Zelda game, they did such a great job with their LttP and LA adaptations.

[Anonymous No.7880189]

>>7880164
>Why are you like this? Where did your life go wrong?
i've never seen such clear projection

[Anonymous No.7880198]

>>7880107
>>7880125
I want to say that they do have forms outside of balls of light based on other games where fairies have full bodies

[Anonymous No.7880205]

>>7880169
>Why you being such a dick? You've ruined the 1 comfy thread on this entire site.
That's bit an overstatement, but okay.
>I'm just saying that if I'm going to play a game, I don't want to feel like I could be doing it in real life instead.
I understand, but literally every video game you've ever played has at some level or another things you can do in real life. But you don't have magical magnetic Skeikah powers in real, the ability to produce infinite bombs, and to scale several large hills and mountains and explore caves all in the same day. Being a superpowered person, doing normal things in an extravagant way, in a fantasy world, fighting off swarms of bats and giant monsters--none of this equates to whatever you get up to on your average hiking trip.
>>7880171
>WW did open world better. There was shit to do and expect outside of 3 different outcomes.
Except the King of Red Lions routinely blocks off directions you're not supposed to go to yet in order to keep the player on track with the story. It isn't till 3/4 through the game that you can actually explore the entire map. Until then, there's no real freedom of exploration, but sure, it did "open world" better. I'm not even shitting on the game, mind you--MM and WW are two of my favorite Zelda games. But I can least be honest about the downward spiral that ultimately gave us Skyward Sword and why Breath of the Wild was a necessary reboot/attempt at returning to basics.
>>7880198
I'd like to say I never saw such clear retardation, but unfortunately zoomers who pepper their sentences with lol and lmao without even knowing what they stand for are all too common.

[Anonymous No.7880208]

>>7880205
>I'd like to say I never saw such clear retardation, but unfortunately zoomers who pepper their sentences with lol and lmao without even knowing what they stand for are all too common.
meant for >>7880189, sorry

[Anonymous No.7880216]

>>7880164
Baity post, but look I like the camping/hunting/foraging & exploring, I just want some real dungeons and the puzzles to be contextualized & differentiated, and more enemy variety. and items, especially if they aren't all handed to you in the tutorial. tonally it sets of my oldgood/newbad mindset but thats forgivable, I go in expecting that & to respect the gameplay if its good. and it has a lot of good innovation, but at the cost of so much of the actual meat of the game.
Maybe botw2 will deliver but I doubt it unless its delayed to the degree the original was, but fuck combined how long of a wait is that for one complete game essentially?

[Anonymous No.7880219]

>>7880107
>>7880125


Doesn't tinkerbell in Disney' Peter Pan turn into a ball of light too? Cause shes in all the menus of Kingdom Hearts after 2 as a ball of light. Link was always based on Peter Pan since the NES days.

[Anonymous No.7880224]

>>7880205
This isnt zelda trivia stupid faggots you really killed this thread with your autism fight

[Anonymous No.7880226]

>>7880216
Not zelda trivia not retro all of you fuck right off

[Anonymous No.7880238]

>>7879962
I hated that but I liked all the old Nintendo toys and Gamecube+GBA player cameos.

[Anonymous No.7880257]

>>7880216
>I just want some real dungeons and the puzzles to be contextualized & differentiated,
Of course. Muh puzzle dungeons. Thank you for confirming exactly what I thought about the people who shit on BotW. The only Aonuma Fanboy cliche checkbox you guys in this thread haven't ticked yet is to complain that the story was too shallow. (I think it bears repeating that I'm not even shitting on the games he was deeply involved in, but I don't think someone who admits he got filtered by the original Legend of Zelda should be the franchise showrunner is all). I'm not even saying that BotW was some glorious and perfect return to the 2D series basics, but it sure as hell was a leap in the right direction after the bloated Skyward Sword.

[Anonymous No.7880289]

>>7880257
Dude, how many people have to tell you to stop whining about BotW in this thread, you negative, off topic faggot.

[Anonymous No.7880293]

>>7880257
>(I think it bears repeating that I'm not even shitting on the games he was deeply involved in, but I don't think someone who admits he got filtered by the original Legend of Zelda should be the franchise showrunner is all).

The majority of today's Zelda players would be filtered by the first game, since it's an absolute chore to play without muh contemporary Nintendo Power tips.

[Anonymous No.7880326]

>>7880293
>since it's an absolute chore to play without muh contemporary Nintendo Power tips
Imagine getting filtered by a game that 6 years olds beat in 1986. I myself didn't play it till the late 90s, and I didn't need Nintendo Power (or have an old NP at hand) or the internet to complete it. Every bombed wall, every burnable bush, all of it I found on my own. And I didn't cry about it because I have the mental capacity to understand that going on an adventures means danger and uncertainty, not handholding and cracked walls. 'X' does not mark the spot in real life, nor should it in a good game.

[Anonymous No.7880328]

>>7880089
if there isn't navi bodyjob pics, I'm gonna draw em

[Anonymous No.7880349]

>>7880326
Every bombed wall, every burnable bush, all of it I found on my own. And I didn't cry about it because I have the mental capacity to understand that going on an adventures means danger and uncertainty, not handholding and cracked walls.

What you call 'mental capacity' is better termed as 'a very high threshold for tedium.' It's probably nothing to be proud of, because it means you have nothing better to do with your time.

[Anonymous No.7880357]

>>7880349
>is better termed as 'a very high threshold for tedium
Massively filtered. Judging by your 'having nothing better to do with your time', you were obviously too impatient to notice that there are patterns and rules to where bombable walls and burnable bushes are hidden.

[Anonymous No.7880375]

>>7880328
Even if they do exist you should draw more.

[Anonymous No.7880379]

So, I've been playing MM again and I was trying to see if I could spot every asset they took from OoT, since I just finished that again about two weeks ago. I didn't realize it till this play through that they reuse Adult Link's audio with the Zora Form in MM.

[Anonymous No.7880453]

In Zelda games Zelda the main character uses a sword

[Anonymous No.7880470]

>>7880379
Whoa good catch.

[Anonymous No.7880780]

Not sure if its in OoT but I’m replaying MM and there is an enemy thats a larger version of the regular skeleton fish. Its in a single zora egg tank in pirate fortress (the other 3 tanks have the clams) and again in a single room of the great bay temple. It takes several seconds to despawn when killed, which is unusual.

[Anonymous No.7880825]

>>7880051
The manga are seriously underrated and really well made

[Anonymous No.7880864]

>>7880825
Hard to believe that they're done by two girls, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.7880869]

>>7864565
If you paid attention to the NES games, you'll notice that the Royal Family has a penchant for hiding the Triforce in places guarded by the undead and supernatural.

[Anonymous No.7880953]

>>7880106
Also the Happy Mask Salesman and Miyamoto

[Anonymous No.7880998]

Did you know?

Skull Kid's first debut in entertainment was a bried gig where he served as the main vocalist in the recording of the theme song of the popular indie game title, Among Us.

https://youtu.be/grd-K33tOSM

[Anonymous No.7881085]

>>7880052
This was the ultimate filter grotto back whenever the debug ROM got leaked. Some people were convinced that this was some secret beta area, blissfully unaware that it's just the dog grotto in Sacred Forest Meadow.

[Anonymous No.7881281]

>>7873338
Actually links awakening takes place during that sleep

[Anonymous No.7881305]

>>7880998
>HAHAHAHA LOL SUS AMOGUS!!!1!1!1111
What's it like being an unpaid shill?

And how did the dev pay for all this, anyway? My personal theory is that he's from a rich family and that's how he afforded this excessive viral-marketing for his gay indie game.

[Anonymous No.7881319]

If you shoot Sakon with an arrow after he steals the Bomb Bags, he explodes. You straight up kill him and you dont get the reward for helping the old lady.

[Anonymous No.7881416]

>>7881305
meds

[Anonymous No.7881625]

There's a ladder on top of the witches house in the swamp.
It's haunted me for two decades because I have no clue why it's there

[Anonymous No.7881668]

The orange clad/owl associated old men are usually conflated with the king of hyrule, but does anything spell out if Rauru is the king or not? Can't think of anything off the top of my head.

[Anonymous No.7881770]

>>7881625
Are you serious? The ladder leads to

[Anonymous No.7881983]

>>7880780
Yeah I noticed that myself, they usually reserve that for the Gibdos and Redeads. Strange.

[Anonymous No.7882129]

She's just too cute for her own good.

[Anonymous No.7882220]

>>7864248
I had always thought it was from Wolfos.

[Anonymous No.7882234]

>>7882220
wonder if the ice temple would have had a wolfos boss

[Anonymous No.7882492]

>>7864248
Trigger's grave.
Hyrule is inside Strangereal

[Anonymous No.7882579]

>>7875064
you can find a lot of it on tcrf but its not its own catagory. i remember seeing a pic of the wall climb near snowpeak in the threads which has yet to appear on tcrf.

[Anonymous No.7882609]

>>7880019
Can you go camping, hangliding, hiking, climbing, and exploring for the cost of a Switch, while on a plane or bus? BotW was a hit because it was also a mobile game. My brother used to play it while traveling for work.

[Anonymous No.7882612]

>>7881416
Stop working for free.

[Anonymous No.7882695]

>>7881668
given that Rauru is said to be reborn as Kaepora Gaepora I doubt that he was the king during OoT's time

[Anonymous No.7882776]

>>7875064
>Is there a good place to see everything in the gigaleak?
For just OoT or in general?
I had some bookmarks (Google drive and youtube playlists) but most of them have been taken down. Here's what I got though:
Star Fox: https://pastebin.com/DetbmHRx
ALttP: https://halext.org/delda.php
OoT: https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time/iQue
OoT (Not the Gigaleak, but the dev cart overdump discovered earlier this year: https://tcrf.net/Proto:The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time/Late_1997_Overdump

There was a bunch of other stuff like Super Mario World beta stuff but I don't have it handy.

[Anonymous No.7882832]

>>7882776
tcrf has a lot of gigaleak alttp that delda doesnt and vice versa but it seems that tcrf is more chronologically accurate then that delda site.
also dont forget about super donkey/sleep and yoshi island.

tcrf seems to have unearthed some of the deeper secrets of the gigaleak including 3-4
additional late beta builds of star fox 2 and a PRE alpha of super mario kart that features a blank character that looks like the excite bike guy. maybe the game was going to be excite kart?

[Anonymous No.7882867]

>>7880864
Not at all, the only women I trust to create good stories are jap women.

[Anonymous No.7882979]

>>7882776
the SMW and Yoshi's Island stuff is also on TCRF
https://tcrf.net/Super_Donkey
https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:Super_Mario_World_2:_Yoshi%27s_Island/Internal_Material
https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:Super_Mario_World_(SNES)/Background_Graphics_and_Tilemaps

[Anonymous No.7883137]

>>7882609
>Can you go camping for the cost of a switch while on a plane or a bus?

I'll have to get my top Cryptanalysis working around the clock to figure out exactly what the hell you meant by this.

Also BotW was a legacy title in a series running 35 years, that's 80% why it was a hit.


>>7882695
>Reborn

Where? in OoT I figured it was just a sort of avatar he used to communicate from inside the Temple. In fact, now that I think about it I can't recall why I instinctively connected the two at all.

[Anonymous No.7883182]

>>7881319
I hope this is true, because I don't know of any other way to bring Sakon to justice. Even if you do the Kafei/Anju quest, Sakon goes free.

[Anonymous No.7883193]

>>7883182
It is true. I'm trying to think, that might be the only human NPC you can kill in that game (or OoT). Can't speak for the later games.

[Anonymous No.7883205]

>>7879336
The way more cartoony style Majora's Mask key art (drawn by Yusuke Nakano) were heavily inspired by Hellboy.

[Anonymous No.7883208]

>>7882612
meds
ive never even played amogus

[Anonymous No.7883209]

In Majora's Mask if you plant a magic bean on day 2 it sprouts instantly from the rain, since it requires water to grow.

[Anonymous No.7883223]

You can sell off the Zora Eggs to the Curiosity Shop. The eggs of a sentient race are worth exactly the same as a common fish, 20 rupees.

[Anonymous No.7883225]

>>7883208
Why are you being an unpaid shill for a game you've never even played?

[Anonymous No.7883251]

>>7881305

[Anonymous No.7883256]

>>7883137
one of the gossip stones mentions it
>"The owl named Kaepora Gaebora is the reincarnation of an ancient Sage."

[Anonymous No.7883317]

>>7883209
You can also play the Song of Storms.

[Anonymous No.7883510]

>>7883225
meds

[Anonymous No.7883524]

>>7881668
look at this art, it's fucking great.

[Anonymous No.7883531]

>>7883205
It always gave me a Tim Burton vibe.

[Anonymous No.7883537]

>>7881281
Wrong

[Anonymous No.7883569]

>Want to play Majora’s Mask
>N64 emulation still sucks ass
How long till the native PC port?

[Anonymous No.7883571]

>>7883569
https://zelda64.dev/progress.html

[Anonymous No.7883591]

>>7883223
Can you sell the Deku Princess? I never tried it.

[Anonymous No.7883593]

>>7883569
I played it on plain old Project64 and I saw no problems at all.

[Anonymous No.7883682]

>>7859452
Not sure how obscure this really is, but the Iron Knuckles are actually all brainwashed Gerudos (previously theorized to be Nabooru leftovers). Not only is this obvious when camera clipping, but when the Iron Knuckle sheds armor, you can see a distinctly Gerudo/feminine chest/curves, which just blended in with the rough graphics. Also, one of the Gerudo NPCs has a line suggesting that several Gerudos have gone missing but a rumor smears Nabooru for practicing brainwashing magic at the Desert Colossus.
>>7882776
Speaking of the overdump, last I checked there was a lot more text that TCRF admins didn't cover due to petty Discord squabbles with the messager. Things that hinted at more lost story elements, such as more involvement from the three goddesses. Anyone got the full text dump?

[Anonymous No.7883794]

[Anonymous No.7883814]

>>7878010
On a 1.0 cart if you save and quit after you lose your sword, you'll load your save outside the castle with no sword equipped. Doing so puts the game into a weird state where a bunch of other broken stuff can happen.
Video Gamer X's odyssey of Hyrule used to have more detail.

[Anonymous No.7883906]

>>7882776
It occurred to me the other day that learning Mandarin is the only way to truly know everything about OoT because the iQue release would have the most up to date localization. Even if you knew Japanese there is a chance they unintentionally omitted something critical because of familiarity with common idioms or overused terms (like how we say "just" for everything).

[Anonymous No.7884234]

[Anonymous No.7884261]

>>7883205
Mask in the lower left gives me strong behelit vibes.

>>7883256
Rauru and Gaepora aren’t necessarily the same sage, it was probably intentionally vague to serve as lorebait. Gaepora does appear as a human sage in skyward sword though, which confirms they’re different. I dont know if that should be applied to ‘original intent’ with oot though.

>>7883682
>Also, one of the Gerudo NPCs has a line suggesting that several Gerudos have gone missing but a rumor smears Nabooru for practicing brainwashing magic at the Desert Colossus
I dont remember this and cant find anything from a quick search of a text dump.

[Anonymous No.7884275]

>>7884261
I would consider Gaepora to be a reference to both Kaepora and Rauru, not some confirmation on Kaepora's identity when it makes more sense to have him be a character that actually appears in OoT

[Anonymous No.7884367]

>>7884275
>when it makes more sense to have him be a character that actually appears in OoT
Why? It’s not like that was the first game the owl was in.

And Gaepora has Kaepora’s name, personality traits and a very similar face. That seems pretty explicit. The only thing he has in common with Rauru is being an old man in orange, and that’s likely a reference to the old men in zelda 1.

[Anonymous No.7884369]

>>7884234
Is there Italian Link?

[Anonymous No.7884417]

>>7883569
Play the GameCube version

[Anonymous No.7884478]

>>7884367
>Why? It’s not like that was the first game the owl was in.
sure but there's nothing to suggest every owl is meant to be Kaebora
if the intention was for this new character in SS to be the owl then I feel like that would have been more directly inferred or at least elaborated upon in one of the lore books they released around Skyward's launch

[Anonymous No.7884498]

I read somewhere that adult Link was based on Leo DiCaprio, wonder if that’s true or not.

[Anonymous No.7884529]

>>7884498
I mean, that haircut was really popular in the 90s.

[Anonymous No.7884621]

>>7884478
The SS character laughs by going “Hoo hoo hoo!” He has the same name. He looks like him.

I dont know how much more explicit they can make it without him saying “I’m gonna turn into an owl one day.”

[Anonymous No.7884715]

>>7880106
>That's bullshit but I believe it.png

[Anonymous No.7884775]

[Anonymous No.7884783]

Link is one of the few male characters that can wear earrings and not look like a visual kei reject while wearing them.

[Anonymous No.7884839]

>>7884775
what monster is that skeleton meant to be?

[Anonymous No.7884961]

>>7884529
Interview in Art & Artifacts explicitly states OoT Link is based on a famous Hollywood actor.
>>7884498
Narrowing it down to:
Tom Cruise
Rivers Phoenix
Brad Pitt
Leonardo DiCaprio

[Anonymous No.7885029]

>>7879867
NUT

[Anonymous No.7885039]

>>7883251
Do you seriously think any of this relating to among us is organic?

[Anonymous No.7885084]

>>7884498
>>7884529
and this is just resident evil alone

[Anonymous No.7885101]

>>7883682
it wouldnt have been so esoteric if the iron knuckles didnt have such deep manly voices in oot

[Pr?nc?ss Sevenleaf No.7885119]

>>7883531
>I am the SHADOW on the MOON at night

[Anonymous No.7885223]

>>7880864
Women make some of the best manga in nipland, they have crossed what I believe is the autistic threshold innate to men.
>FMA
>Houseki no Kuni
>Rose of Versailles
>CLAMP

[Anonymous No.7885316]

>>7885039
>He really thinks every meme ever hasn't been forced.

Oh, to live in your little world, anon.

[Anonymous No.7885462]

>>7879584
It's 'become an hero', retard. an hero is a noun, not a verb.

[Anonymous No.7885490]

>>7885462
Newfag

[Anonymous No.7885495]

>>7875138
what the fuck is 4chan? can you fucking read? it says 4channel you esl retard.

[Anonymous No.7885526]

>>7876748
>>7876752
>>7880039
Ura Zelda is up there with Halo 2 as far as what could have been. The ideas of the game that made it into future iterations of the series are only teasers into what the developers had in mind at the time. I just want to know what they had in store for us.

[Anonymous No.7885559]

>>7880037
Majora's Mask 3D fucked a lot of things up for sure, but one thing I will defend to death is the revamped moon. It looks like it's having its eyelids pulled back, Ludovico Technique-style. It feels like the moon is really being forced against its will to collide with Termina. The OG moon has its own charm to it for sure, but that's one change the remake made that I actually like. I can't decide which one I like better.

[Anonymous No.7885562]

>>7885526
>Halo 2
Fuck man. It still hurts.

Halo 3 really is a letdown after what they intended.

[Anonymous No.7885569]

>>7880045
>>7880051
>>7880178
Never read the manga, what's the story behind the Fierce Deity Mask?

[Anonymous No.7885595]

>>7885569
Story time.

[Anonymous No.7885597]

>>7885595

[Anonymous No.7885598]

>>7885597

[Anonymous No.7885601]

>>7885598

[Anonymous No.7885604]

>>7885601

[Anonymous No.7885606]

>>7885604

[Anonymous No.7885608]

>>7885562
I wish they would give us something, it's been almost 20 years for fuck's sake. Surely that's a good enough amount of time to pass before they let us in on what they originally had in mind for the game, or at least I would hope.

[Anonymous No.7885614]

>>7885606

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>>7885614

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>>7885617

[Anonymous No.7885624]

>>7885623

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>>7885624

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>>7885628

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>>7885630

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>>7885635

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>>7885637

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>>7885640

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>>7885643

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>>7885649

[Anonymous No.7885658]

>>7885653
The End

[Anonymous No.7885672]

>>7885595
>>7885597
>>7885598
>>7885601
>>7885604
>>7885606
>>7885614
>>7885617
>>7885623
>>7885624
>>7885628
>>7885630
>>7885635
>>7885637
>>7885640
>>7885643
>>7885649
>>7885653
>>7885658


Manga in order for anyone who uses an extension.


https://www.raurusreturn.net/downloads/manga/majoras-mask/
In case you're interested, the full manga.

[Anonymous No.7885678]

>>7885672
You're a king, Anon. I'll read these in the morning.

[Anonymous No.7885712]

>>7885658
>>7885672
So Majora was a dragon who lived in some kind of timeless limbo. Warriors used to arrive to slay him but were eaten. Then this warrior has majora wonder why he hasn't left (implying he can leave? To where time must move because this warrior is from someplace?), then wish for time to move (but time appears to be moving in some way, so its more like he wants to feel alive?) so he is danced to the death. "time is born" but the world crumbled?

very confusing.
I guess it takes place at the end of time & restarts the cycle. the warriors had long stopped arriving, and this one could be a time traveler like link. this dude is supposed to be fierce deity even though he doesnt look much like him right?
Not how I would have written the lore but its interesting.

[Anonymous No.7885721]

>>7885672
That was pretty Eatman-ish, thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.7885784]

>>7885712
Majora the dragon ate and destroyed everything (a parallel to the moon destroying everything).

The manga pushes that Termina is an alternate dimension. The timeless world is either another dimension, or maybe it's Termina's big bang moment and the world came to be after the Dragon's death.

I'm pretty sure the traveler is supposed to be a god or something similar. He's surprised when Majora calls him a human, and seems to know a little too much of time and history.

[Anonymous No.7885785]

>>7885712
It's confirmed that all of the Zelda mangas are non-canon, so take it with a grain of salt

[Anonymous No.7885810]

>>7867202
nice secret anon

[Anonymous No.7885970]

>>7882832
Looks like Mach Rider to me

[Anonymous No.7886012]

>>7883205
I thought the MM art was done by Takaya Imamura. Or did he just design the characters?

[Anonymous No.7886024]

>>7881281
I love this theory. Dan Owsen approved of this theory in his Ask Dan! column, and that's why it's always been good enough for me.
>>7883537
Not an argument.
>>7882129
You and I will never have cute, hardworking, horse loving farm wives, and that hurts. That hurts, friend.

[Anonymous No.7886027]

>>7882832
>delda
What?

[Anonymous No.7886053]

>>7877258
Link literally wields a long sword like a manly 10 year old in Majora's Mask.

It's not being strong enough to wield it, it's being old enough to carry yourself well and be strong enough to square off with Ganon Man-to-Pig

[Anonymous No.7886063]

>>7859452
That every cart is haunted and scares zoomers.

[Anonymous No.7886064]

>>7885608
I know this is a zelda thread, but what's the tl;dr on whatever it is you're on about? I've played Halo 2.

[Anonymous No.7886082]

>>7886053
>Link literally wields a long sword like a manly 10 year old in Majora's Mask.
The Great Fairy Sword might be magic or something, but wielding the Gilded Sword as a 10 year old is honestly some Guts-level shit.

[Anonymous No.7886104]

>>7859452
Ben Drowned

[Anonymous No.7886110]

>>7886104
Here take a look at this anon

[Anonymous No.7886120]

>>7884775
This has to be the most obscure I think

[Anonymous No.7886129]

>>7884775
>>7886120
What am I missing here? What changes after the bomb explodes?

[Anonymous No.7886158]

>>7886129
It's just how the spine and each individual rib has collision.

[Anonymous No.7886167]

>>7885316
I'm saying that a viral marketing team was behind that game becoming popular. Leddit forces unfunny memes all the time but everything relating to that game just seems too coincidental.

[Anonymous No.7886183]

>>7886158
Thats less interesting if its just a result of the collision I was assuming it was just hardcoded to do that

[Anonymous No.7886252]

>>7886183
Link walks really weird and has funky IK on those bones.
I'm assuming those bones just have weird collision.

[Anonymous No.7886458]

>>7886252
Why did they feel the need to make it individually ribbed? We may never know.

[Anonymous No.7886473]

>>7886458
For our pleasure

[Anonymous No.7886480]

>>7886473
kek

[Anonymous No.7886545]

how much do you really wanna know?

[Anonymous No.7886548]

this covers+explains the entirety of MM

[Anonymous No.7886551]

>>7886545
Christ that fucking toe-bean black whale thing is retarded.
I never played SS (ordered the Switch version just to say I've tried every Zelda, because that's easier than buying a dolphin bar and a motion plus) and I kinda dread it because so much of this game looks like the worst aspects of Wind Waker and Twilight Princess mashed together.

[Anonymous No.7886580]

>>7863624
you keep saying this but it's simply not true. however certain enemies such as keese will 'target' him and fly towards him but dark link wont attack them and they cant damage each other.

[Anonymous No.7886604]

>>7886548
I haven't read it all but what I did read was wrong.
>Conversations with NPCs reveal that the evil moon is not the real moon, being of a much smaller scale and only appearing after the Skull Kid put on the Majora's Mask and began wreaking havoc
This isn't true, no NPCs say anything like this. The moon is the same, just that it's behaving differently/falling (ie: it always had that face).

Who wrote this? I can't trust anything it says if one part is wrong.

[Anonymous No.7886621]

>>7886604
It did not always have a face, and it's certainly impossible for it to have been the same size as the regular moon, thus making it very likely it's not the normal moon, but a product of Majora's.

[Anonymous No.7886647]

[Anonymous No.7886652]

>>7886647
hasn't Nintendo made tarot decks with this kind of stuff? goes back to the masonic stuff of >>7886545

[Anonymous No.7886680]

>>7886621
>It did not always have a face
The image you linked literally says "it is unknown if the Moon always had a face".
>when Shikashi was talking about the Moon's Tear, he stated that they have "lately" been blazing from the surface of the moon. This implies the Moon did not initially have a face.
Lol, wtf? It implies the moon has been crying a lot recently (because of Skull kid). Who the fuck wrote this shit?

Actual evidence that the moon always had a face is pic related -- the sculpture of the moon (with its face!) that sits above the mayor's chair.

Get it to-fucking-gether, man. Learn more about Majora's Mask lore.

[Anonymous No.7886690]

>>7886680
Whether the moon is the real moon or not, still begs the question: why is the moon now the game's enemy, when in all other instances it's synonymous with the goddesses? Read the rest of the image.

[Anonymous No.7886696]

>>7879369
BotW's NPCs get worse after you realize that they're all Miis

[Anonymous No.7886701]

>>7880780
Desbreko are weird enemies. They should bring them back

[Anonymous No.7886703]

>>7886690
The moon is the skull kid's victim, hence its tears.

[Anonymous No.7886705]

>>7886696
>BotW's NPCs get worse after you realize that they're all Miis
I have no problem with that compared with this kinda thing. Sometimes generic is better.

And yeah picking the clown is kind of cheating, but even so this abomination still exists.

[Anonymous No.7886708]

>>7886703
Yes, that's the in-game lore explanation. Why would the game designers choose for that to be the case, is the question.

[Anonymous No.7886715]

Link is a devout religious man

[Anonymous No.7886719]

>>7886715
was meant to be, anyway

[Anonymous No.7886729]

>>7886708
My guesses
>It fits the game to have the main threat also be as sad as everything else.
>It emphasizes the mask's danger to have even the moon upset by it.
>Deliberate contrast with the moon's intense grimace.
>The moon is just the moon, man. It doesn't want to hurt anyone.
>it's just further reflection of how Auonuma and the rest of the devs felt under MM's stressed development.
Miyamoto is the Mask Salesman, so perhaps the moon reflects someone else.

[Anonymous No.7886732]

>>7882832
>tcrf seems to have unearthed some of the deeper secrets of the gigaleak including 3-4
>additional late beta builds of star fox 2 and a PRE alpha of super mario kart that features a blank character that looks like the excite bike guy
Did they really unearth that, though? I remember Excite Bike Guy being posted in the Gigaleak threads here back when that was still happening. Heck, I came across themself myself while digging through the.cgx files.

[Anonymous No.7886740]

>>7886729
I don't mean why is the moon the way it is, I mean the moon was chosen obviously because the Majora's Mask's dark magic is perverting an otherwise symbol of the utmost good (the Golden Goddesses). What real world parallel accounts for all the specificities of the Zelda lore?

[Anonymous No.7886742]

>>7882979
The that way Mario has no limbs, just hands and feet, is too close to Rayman for comfort.

[Anonymous No.7886743]

>>7886548
I ain't reading that shit, but Hebra has been in zelda canon since alttp. It was the japanese name of light world death mountain.

[Anonymous No.7886769]

>>7885490
>newfag gets called out for being a newfag
>n-no u
Everytime.
>>7885526
>I just want to know what they had in store for us.
I would hope that Link's sword beam was one of thing they would've implemented at least. It's annoying that the behavior is still in the ROM and almost fully functional but no one thought to make it an unlockable bonus in OoT 3D.

[Anonymous No.7886773]

>>7885658
It's an interesting story, but one that ultimately has no relevance to the backstory of the mask alluded to in MM, which was that it once belonged to an evil cult. The mask itself is evil and is host to an evil god, but somehow none of that comes up in this manga.

[Anonymous No.7886781]

>>7886551
>so much of this game looks like the worst aspects of Wind Waker and Twilight Princess mashed together
Pretty much, though I think the story is a bit better than both.

[Anonymous No.7886786]

>>7886743
I mean, that doesn't exactly hurt the guy's point since the image is implying Hebra = Hebrew and Golan Heights = Goron City, built around a volcano on Death (Hebra) Mountain.

[Anonymous No.7886787]

>>7886786
Hebra and death mountain aren't the same mountain

[Anonymous No.7886820]

>>7886705
Son of a submariner!

[Anonymous No.7886823]

>>7872536
It's just another way to have a time trial and make it more interesting. How many people were more encouraged to try to beat their time, just based on the suggestion that they could possibly beat somebody else?

[Anonymous No.7886887]

>>7886787
They are in LttP.

[Anonymous No.7886893]

>>7883569
Play the 3DS port on citra, they changed some shit for the worse but there's a fan patch for that.

[Anonymous No.7886895]

>>7886705
This character is the culmination of all of Eiji Aonuma's latent suppressed homosexuality.

[Anonymous No.7886920]

>>7886895
Well much of Nintendo's old guard describe how much inspiration they draw from their childhoods during the 70s, when all that androgyny & glam metal shit was at its peak, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was cut from that cloth.

[Anonymous No.7886946]

>>7859612
Actually forgot this was a thing

[Anonymous No.7886964]

>>7873372
That ocean always managed to seem huge to me as a kid

[Anonymous No.7886974]

>>7886458
because Japan

[Anonymous No.7886992]

>>7886548
much of this seems ranting about things that aren't barely connected to MM

[Anonymous No.7887005]

>>7884261
>I dont remember this and cant find anything from a quick search of a text dump.
"The leader of the gang of thieves is Nabooru. She is experimenting in brainwashing many people at the ruins in the desert."
This might've been one of the carpenters, since it's near this line that sounds like them:
"Now, Nabooru's gang of thieves stands for cruelty and brutality. She claims to be a chivalrous robber, but...no way!"
>>7885101
You mean like possessed Nabooru?
To be fair, while this makes sense in the context of OoT, I have NO idea why this is still true of the Iron Knuckles in MM. I'm willing to believe it's just a leftover in THAT game, unless someone can offer up a decent explanation.
>>7886743
>>7886787
Right, I remember the full overdump (anyone?) had a line about Death Mountain also being known as Hebra Mountain as a callback to Japanese ALttP, but it's missing entirely from the final. The map in the manual definitely treats Death Mountain as another name for Hebra Mountain even if it's not obvious in the game. The Hebra MountainS in Breath of the Wild are very different though.

[Anonymous No.7887026]

>>7886690
>Whether the moon is the real moon or not
Dude, he totally just proved the moon hadn't changed. You should acknowledge that and admit you were wrong.

[Anonymous No.7887031]

>>7885559
I'll never understand this. OG moon had a haunting yet unreadable expression; I can't unsee nu moon as anything other than a fat-faced boogeyman.
>>7885785
Confirmed WHERE? The only reason they're considered non-canon to begin with is because they're adaptations, which almost always takes a backseat to source material; ORIGINAL stories, like the Majora backstory and especially the Skyward Sword prequel INCLUDED in Hyrule Historia, could conceivably be canonical.

[Anonymous No.7887049]

>>7885559
>>7887031
I like the stretched expression and more three-dimensional shape of the 3DS moon

[Anonymous No.7887086]

>>7887026
He himself said it wasn't confirmed either way.

[Anonymous No.7887094]

>>7886920
That's actually some pretty impressive facial animation there on Ghirahim. Skyward Sword may have been a lot of things, but poorly animated wasn't one of them.

[Anonymous No.7887119]

>>7886920
Ghirahim always seemed like a blend of Vaati, Gackt, and Revolutionary Girl Utena’s male characters.

[Anonymous No.7887323]

>>7887049
So basically was made just for the 3DS. Even though it previously appeared in that design in Hyrule Warriors and everyone treated it as an abomination back then..

[Anonymous No.7887387]

>>7887323
What is with the uptick of pedantic-ass niggas on this board lately?

[Anonymous No.7887435]

Comfy thread.
>Bump Limit
Welp, it was fun while it lasted.

[Anonymous No.7887723]

>>7886690
>when in all other instances it's synonymous with the goddesses
It isn’t. The moon-goddess connection is a huge reach and not remotely concrete, there is some masonic imagery in zelda but you’re superimposing masonic stuff that just isnt represented in the games.

>>7887031
>Confirmed WHERE? The only reason they're considered non-canon to begin with is because they're adaptations, which almost always takes a backseat to source material; ORIGINAL stories, like the Majora backstory and especially the Skyward Sword prequel INCLUDED in Hyrule Historia, could conceivably be canonical.
Some parts of adapted material directly contradict source material, like Volvagia’s backstory changing completely. If 90% of the manga is noncanon source divergence just for fun, why would the original stories be accepted as part of game canon?

Even with the mask origins, in-game it was stated to be the creation of an old tribe. I like the mangas but they arent canon to the games in any way. They are very much their own thing.

The Skyward Sword manga is the only one that might be an exception, since it was included with Hystoria.

[Anonymous No.7888390]

>>7887435
FUCK the bump limit, someone needs to make a new one so we can keep this thing going.

[Anonymous No.7888525]

>>7886027
see>>7882776
>>7886732
no way to keep up with all those threads

[Anonymous No.7888605]

>>7888390
New Thread:
>>7888603

[Anonymous No.7888805]

>>7888605
Gracias