/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7852131]

>No you baka gaijin cannot use my game engine or I quit!
What is that saying "There is no I in 'team'?"

[Anonymous No.7852147]

>>7852131
The game would have been shit either way, get over it


Nights sucks too

[Anonymous No.7852169]

The NiGHTS engine wasn't even completed yet when STI tried to borrow it for their abortive shitfest. It was extremely rude and Naka rightfully felt disrespected.

[Anonymous No.7852210]

>>7852131
He is just a fucking code monkey. Everyone on the Sonic 1 team was more talented than he was. Guy got lucky. It went to his head. The exact same holds true for Shinji mikami and the metal gear faggot. They were in the right place at the right time.

[Anonymous No.7852228]

>>7852169
>"Hey the engine you are making for your pet project looks great! Can we use it to create a Sonic title for the Saturn to help sell the console better in the west? You guys in Japan are doing great business with it but we need a big name to sell it to our Genesis fans.

Strong Japanese honor that helped weaken a part of the whole of the company he was attached to and made him anyone of worth to begin with

[Anonymous No.7852252]

>>7852210
> Everyone on the Sonic 1 team was more talented than he was.
How so? Pretty sure game feel is integral to Sonic 1. Can you differentiate the work of different programmers within that game?

[Anonymous No.7852386]

He can join ranks with the guy that "created megaman" as a hack fraud.

[Anonymous No.7852474]

>>7852386
Besides the original demo for speed and physics based game play game he did programed the game, so he was a big part creating Sonic.
Also he was responsible for Phantasy Star Online big time, on in all whatever you like or hate those games you have to admit he did some good shit (Sonic sucks though).

[Anonymous No.7852529]

>"i need to make this thread every week cause i'm a small dick loser"

get a life OP

[Anonymous No.7852532]

it's pronounced tiim

[Anonymous No.7852749]

>>7852252
>game feel
Post disregarded.

[Anonymous No.7852783]

>>7852210
>The exact same holds true for Shinji mikami and the metal gear faggot.
The later sees himself as some sort of auteur, but has countless hands involved to bring a vision to life. If it were me, I'd just create pseudonyms just to not seem as pretentious.

[Anonymous No.7852817]

>>7852749
you can get a firefox extension to filter out posts which include your little trigger phrases anon. self care is important and you are valid as h*ck! <3 <3 <3

[Anonymous No.7852825]

>>7852131
His modern game has show us how much of a hack he is. The less we say about him, the better it is.

[Anonymous No.7852827]

>>7852817
Perhaps he could have rephrased it better.

[Anonymous No.7852829]

>>7852210
>metal gear faggot
Kojima is probably the one game developer I hate the most. Not saying his game are shit(I liked his old games up to MGS1), but can't love a guy that needs to put his name everywhere in his work when he didn't do it alone.

[Anonymous No.7852830]

>>7852825
What a way to fizzle out. We weren't expecting it to be anything resembling his magnum opus.

[Anonymous No.7852848]

>>7852252
>game feel is integral to Sonic 1.
Hirokazu Yasuhara is a Japanese video game designer. He is best known for designing the gameplay and stages of the initial Sonic the Hedgehog video games for Sega Genesis in the 1990s, based on technical demos and engines programmed by Yuji Naka. Yasuhara stayed with Sega until the late 1990s. Wikipedia
Born: October 12, 1965 (age 55 years), Japan
Other names: Carol Yas

[Anonymous No.7852853]

>>7852830
The thing that makes it sadder is when you realize that he pitched the game to Square as his "last chance". That and he enthusiastically called the team "Balan Company", like he thought it'd be the rebirth of Sonic Team

[Anonymous No.7852863]

"I have only one regret. I did not create NiGHTs into Dreams."

[Anonymous No.7852879]

SOJ didn't like the idea of Americans making a Sonic game anyway because of culture of honor whatever, even though the character was created to appeal to Americans.

[Anonymous No.7852884]

>>7852829
It's just a film thing, he's an autist for movies. I've never seen anyone on his team complain, so whatever

[Anonymous No.7852894]

What STI did with Sonic X-Treme was equivalent to digging the foundation for a building and then realizing when you try to pour the concrete in that you didn't dig the correct size for it. These guys were hacks who tried to take on a project that was clearly too big for them.

[Anonymous No.7852895]

>>7852131
That is development for ya. Bunch of divas.

[Anonymous No.7852906]

>>7852131
The game was a vomit-inducing pile of shit. Naka was right to slap the shit out of those stupid gaijin.

[Anonymous No.7852907]

"I have only one regret. I did not create NiGHTS Into Dreams."

[Anonymous No.7852914]

>>7852906
oh well. not as if a jester flying through hoops was much of an improvement.

[Anonymous No.7852920]

>>7852853
The average consumer does not care for that minstrel/jester style in the way that Yuki Naka likes to make things. The game was doomed from the start on the basis of the aesthetic alone.

[Anonymous No.7852928]

>>7852920
it's like, sometimes you have to think beyond what you personally find appealing

[Anonymous No.7852939]

>>7852906
I'd think the fish eye view would have gotten very annoying in a hurry.

[Anonymous No.7852950]

>>7852907
>during development of Super Mario Sunshine
>Shiggy throws a temper tantrum and throws chairs around the room because the water in the water levels wasn't realistic-looking enough
>"UNACCEPTABURU! GO BACK AND DO IT AGAIN!"
>"Yes, Miyamoto-san. Your complaints fill us with shame."
Now if that happened in a Western studio they'd just be like "Yeah fuck this power tripping egomaniac. I'm quitting and going to someplace else."

[Anonymous No.7853020]

he threatened to quit over the use of the Nights engine, and since he was one of the most experienced programmers Sega had they didn't want to risk it

[Anonymous No.7853097]

>>7852829
He also thinks they disrespected him by making the NES Metal Gear without even asking.

[Anonymous No.7853108]

>>7852529
I have a big one and I'm an ugly, balding, socially awkward piece of shit. Whipping it out probably won't do me any good.

[Anonymous No.7853118]

>>7852147
Sick of the internet pretending Nights is good. It's long past annoying. This guy blows and he didn't make sonic. He created a rolling ball game idea, someone else made sonic, another guy did the levels, and they sent it to this fag to program it. The idea that he is a designer worth a shit led to him making Nights, Balan Wonderland, etc. He is trash.

[Anonymous No.7853123]

>>7853118
filtered

[Anonymous No.7853131]

>>7853097
>steals solid snake from terminator
heh, nothin personell.
>complains about theft and disrespect

[Anonymous No.7853132]

>>7852884
His movie autism is what made him famous. He was the only developer autistic enough to try to create a movie on the PS1.

[Anonymous No.7853137]

>>7853123
I haven't played a single Sega Saturn game because I'm smart.

>in b4 Panzer Dragoon ugly elf doll sim

[Anonymous No.7853151]

>>7853137
more like very low iq

[Anonymous No.7853154]

>>7853151
they shoveled that ware to the switch and I won't even watch a demo of it.

[Anonymous No.7853159]

>>7853154
we get it you prefer movie games

[Anonymous No.7853179]

>>7852939
It isn't a fish eye lens, it is just the way the game world rendered itself. Also that was a fan remake. The real thing on the saturn wouldn't render that much of the world at the once so there wouldn't be any nauseatingly distorted parts of the level to look at in the distance. Videos of the old game actually look pretty okay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh7qUC3MJ_w

[Anonymous No.7853375]

Naka reminds me of Bob Kane when all he really did was say "Hey, it would be cool if we had a character called 'Bat man.'"

[Anonymous No.7853427]

>>7852950
>Now if that happened in a Western studio they'd just be like "Yeah fuck this power tripping egomaniac. I'm quitting and going to someplace else."
If you only knew how bad it also is in western vidya dev now...

[Anonymous No.7853431]

>>7853427
If you work for EA you deserve every bad thing that comes to you.

[Anonymous No.7853479]

>>7853431
Not just EA tho. Every big western studio. Activision-Blizzard, CD Projekt Rekt, Rockstar...

[Anonymous No.7853517]

>>7852131
>There is no I in 'team

Sure there is. It's the A-hole xD

[Anonymous No.7854587]

>>7852147
Probably had been better than some modern Sonic games.

[Anonymous No.7854602]

>>7853097
To be fair the NES version was terrible and I'd be upset by it if I were in his place.

[Anonymous No.7854605]

>>7852894
>tried to take on a project that was clearly too big for them
Well when your boss says make a Sonic game you kinda have too.

[Anonymous No.7854701]

>>7853179
That doesn't look much better.

[Anonymous No.7854736]

>>7854605
well then they should have known better than to assign STI this project

[Anonymous No.7854908]

>>7854736
They probably did after a while, hell they should’ve just gotten Traveler’s Tales to make a 3D sonic game from the beginning if they had them work on 3D Blast and Sonic R

[Anonymous No.7854912]

They should have just ported Sonic CD to the Saturn.

[Anonymous No.7854982]

>>7852131
His engine was used without his permission.
Shut the fuck up.

>>7852147
>>7853118
>>7853137
>>7853154
Shut the fuck up nint0ddler scum

[Anonymous No.7854984]

>>7852210
No.
Naka was the 2nd most important after Yasuhara solely due to the physics he programmed with such huge constraints.

He'll always be a legend for programming the physics of the best games ever made and you zoomers will never ever be able to take that away from him.

[Anonymous No.7854989]

>>7852848
Yasuhara did the level design, Naka programmed the physics engine.
Get your shit right.

It was Naka who came up with the idea of making a fast sidescroller game. Oshima took the concept and imagined a character running around loops and collecting rings.
Yasuhara had the foresight of making the level design multifaceted and not like a Mario game so Yasuhara is the most important but Naka is easily the 2nd most important.

[Anonymous No.7854993]

>>7852906
He didn't even do that. They had his engine for just 1 week.
It was Nakayama who fucked up Xtreme with his autism. Not that Xtreme would have been good, it would have probably been a flop like 3D Blast.

>>7852914
NiGHTS was a great game. COPE!

[Anonymous No.7855004]

>>7852950
Does Miyamoto even know how to program? Like at all? I’ve always wondered about that.

[Anonymous No.7855014]

>>7852210
>The exact same holds true for Shinji mikami
lmao shut the fuck up, he made fucking Resident Evil 4, the best video game ever made. The rest of his career could be pure trash and he'd still be one of the greatest game directors of all time.

[Anonymous No.7855016]

People nearly died making Sonic Xtreme.

[Anonymous No.7855045]

>>7855016
Still not as bad as bolin wonderworld

[Anonymous No.7855105]

>>7855014
>Resident Evil 4, the best video game ever made
Dude buy your gayonaise, and get fucked.

[Anonymous No.7855157]

>>7854908
>Traveler’s Tales
>them
him
TT is one lone limey

and yea he prolly couldve done it

[Anonymous No.7855195]

>>7855045
bolin was only under the "care" of two shitty devs/publishers and a well-meaning, but heavily misguided director

[Anonymous No.7855468]

>>7853118
Just like Carmack.

[Anonymous No.7855470]

>>7852210
>true for Shinji Mikami
Fuck off, mutt.

[Anonymous No.7855471]

>>7855105
Not an argument.

[Anonymous No.7855476]

>>7852950
>Now if that happened in a Western studio
>Western studio
LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Anonymous No.7855490]

>>7854736
>STI

Aptly named

[Anonymous No.7855925]

>>7855195
>well-meaning, but heavily misguided director
More like delusional.From trying to go head to head with MH Rise to the fake online reviews on metacritic.

[Anonymous No.7855934]

>>7853118
>He is trash.
Exactly that. lmao "father of sonic". He is just another delusional rockstar-status dev. They all suck, more or less.

[Anonymous No.7855937]

>>7852131
Sonic XTreme had a clusterfuck of a development and it's unfair to sperg out over Naka specifically. So many things went wrong with that game

[Anonymous No.7855938]

>>7855934
>inb4 yeah but he programmed the physics...
Good for him but skilled 68000 coders were a dime a dozen back then, it's not like he was the only guy in the world who could have coded the Sonic engine.

[Anonymous No.7855990]

>>7855925
>From trying to go head to head with MH Rise
Wasn't that more Squeenix's decision to release it around that time?

>to the fake online reviews on metacritic?
How do you even know it was even him and not Joji Intern?

[Anonymous No.7856006]

It ruled when Sega was racist.

Wish they still where. Those Yakuza localization are dogshit

[Anonymous No.7856268]

>>7852210
kojima cant even code

[Anonymous No.7856313]

>>7856268
I believe. If he could, surely the game would have "a Hideo Kojima code" somewhere.

[Anonymous No.7856371]

>>7856006
>It ruled when Sega was racist.

???

[Anonymous No.7856462]

>>7855938
>Good for him but skilled 68000 coders were a dime a dozen back then
Which ones? Because aside from him, the only other notable skilled programmers (for home consoles) from that point were Iwata, Koshiro and Gebelli.

[Anonymous No.7856503]

>>7856268
>>7856313
Given that all his known works doesn't involve him programming anything, I'm sure he doesn't know how to code.

[Anonymous No.7856532]

>>7852817
>nooo don't point out that I talk like a fag

[Anonymous No.7856723]

>>7856462
Iwata has the notable pedigree of being sent into an unrelated project to fix their shit and pulling off absolute miracles on the hardware that no one else was apparently good enough to do. Others weren't the "fix everything please and help us fit everything on earth into a 1MB GBC cart" man in any of their companies.

[Anonymous No.7856729]

>>7856462
You don't think any Konami or Capcom guys deserve any credit?

[Anonymous No.7856753]

>>7856729
To be fair, most of Konami and Capcom guys are unknown since their great works are from the time where devs avoided having programmer's real name on credits. So you hardly know how did great stuffs back then besides the game designer or the guy doing the ost.

[Anonymous No.7856775]

>>7856729
Sure not for the hatchet job they did on Mega Man 1.

[Anonymous No.7856795]

>>7856723
>Iwata has the notable pedigree of being sent into an unrelated project to fix their shit
Wasn't he still part of HAL Labs when Mother 2 was being developed by them though?

[Anonymous No.7856817]

>>7856795
I was actually talking about being sent into Pokemon Gold and Silver to get their game working, less buggy and and stored efficiently.

[Anonymous No.7856839]

>>7856817
To be fair RBG could get really fucking weird at points so they really needed all the outside help they could get.

[Anonymous No.7856874]

>>7855990
Who knows how much naka was involved in all that. I only know we havent seen the last of him.

[Anonymous No.7856906]

>>7853131
>Solid Snake
>based on Terminator

[Anonymous No.7856914]

>>7856874
>Who knows how much naka was involved in all that.
I can tell you he was certainly behind the crappy gameplay choices and most likely Arzest's involvement.

>>7856775
Wasn't MM1 that done by someone who never had any game programming experience by that point?

[Anonymous No.7856976]

>>7856839
Yeah if anything the stark difference in coding quality between the two sets of games makes it really hard not to buy into the Iwata legends.

[Anonymous No.7857001]

>>7856914
>Wasn't MM1 that done by someone who never had any game programming experience by that point?
The lead programmer was a guy who'd programmed control software for construction equipment IIRC.

[Anonymous No.7857019]

>>7857001
is that why so many of the robots were construction based?

[Anonymous No.7857023]

>>7855105
lmao nice argument you have there. Resident Evil 4 was the best looking, sounding, and playing game of that generation as well as by a landslide the most influential. It did for third person shooters what Ocarina of Time did for 3D Adventure games.

[Anonymous No.7857037]

I remember they said he was a "very cautious, conservative coder because in the construction business a mistake in your software can get someone killed."

[Anonymous No.7857154]

>>7852131
Yujji Naka is in many ways a hard guy to work with. Who knows what he will do next?

[Anonymous No.7857279]

>>7852386
Are people still crying about Mighty No. 9? It's literally your own fault that you poured $4mil out for a Kickstarter that was literally an elevator pitch and a single jpg.

[Anonymous No.7857284]

>>7857037
Is that why he threw a temper tantrum with literally every Sonic release and jumped dev teams when people wouldn't suck his dick enough?

[Anonymous No.7857297]

>>7857279
Just because fools got parted from their money doesn't mean it absolves the creators involved with such a train wreck

[Anonymous No.7857308]

>>7857284
He was talking about the Mega Man guy.

[Anonymous No.7857309]

>>7857297
Inafune and crew completely misunderstanding how Kickstarter works, leading them to bite off WAY more than they could chew =/= evil manipulative plot to steal people's money and purposely release a low-tier Megaman knock-off.

Inafune deserves (and actually accepts) the blame for his bungling, but people need to stop acting like he's some evil mastermind who never contributed anything to gaming.

[Anonymous No.7857310]

>>7856976
It's kind of sad how much "fanboy" ism for corporations in video games can make people lose sight of the individuals who actually make the industry. Iwata was such a fucking giant and legend. I doubt there will ever be a gaming CEO like him, forget the sheer genius of his programming, but I mean some one who actually loves video games and not just money. I know it's fucking gay to say about a Jap I never knew, but I miss him every day. Too good for this world

[Anonymous No.7857312]

>>7857308
Oh; I'd always heard that Kitamura was a flake who didn't work well with others at Capcom.

[Anonymous No.7857907]

>>7857310
Don't worry anon, Iwata was probably a scumbag, asshole, or both behind the scenes.

[Anonymous No.7858854]

>>7855004
Miyamoto is an ideas guy and designer. I think he would play the builds and recommend changes to the team if it didn't feel right to him.

[Anonymous No.7858917]

>>7856503
there's an interview that gets posted here where he talks about his coworkers resenting him when he joined konami because he was purely a designer and couldn't code. I don't have it saved unfortunately

[Anonymous No.7859204]

>>7853131
Snake is from escape from new york zoomer.

[Anonymous No.7859219]

>>7853131

[Anonymous No.7859226]

>>7852210
I love watching all these inflated "auteur" directors fall flat on their asses. They're nothing but glorified idea guys who haven't produced anything worth a wet shit without a team full of more talented people doing all the work they take credit for.

[Anonymous No.7859272]

>>7855004
Iwata wrote about this in his book. Miyamoto is not a programmer but supposedly has a knack for communicating with them about pretty complex stuff.

[Anonymous No.7859437]

>>7856371
Oh sorry being racist towards anglos isn't even racism it should be Normal LOL

[Anonymous No.7860038]

>>7859219
"A homage by Hideo Kojima"©

[Anonymous No.7860051]

>>7859437
Summoning someone knowledgeable in this matter (de facto, not a weeb): are most japanese like this or just some low number?

[Anonymous No.7860156]

>>7859272
He apparently was responsible for selecting the Famicom's color palette. Although he seems to have forgotten yellow for some reason.

[Anonymous No.7860580]

>>7855004
Miyamoto has a major in Industrial Design.

[Anonymous No.7860682]

>>7860051
Japanese people are so racist they turned a caste (they themselves created) into a race just so they could be racist to Japanese people.

[Anonymous No.7860806]

>>7860682
How that caste stuff works?

[Anonymous No.7860826]

>>7860682
You sure you aren't confusing the Ainu people with something else?

[Anonymous No.7860838]

>>7859437
not sure how this would even work when most Japanese are whiter then most "whites"

[Anonymous No.7860884]

>>7860826
I was thinking of the Burakumin, the "undesirables". The Ainu wouldn't be a bad example but they are a race so the whole "behavioral traits correspond to race" is that far-fetched as far as racist theories go.
Another funny thing I've noticed is just how much they love assigning traits to blood types.
>>7860806
Supposedly it would bring stability, as in no coups against the ruling class. They separated people according to professions like merchants, soldiers, etc. It was officially abandoned somewhere before the 1900's but it stuck around.
Imagine not hiring someone because his great grandfather was a butcher.

[Anonymous No.7863070]

>>7860051
I forgot who specifically it was, but there was a politician or something that got insane amounts of hate on Japanese social media for being half Japanese half other east asian.

[Anonymous No.7863169]

>>7863070
Wow... I can imagine the thoughts: "Nooooooo! His eyes are not slit the right way!!!"